Fire Emblem Path of Radiance had a mechanic wherein you could get some pre-battle dialogue in the preparations before the next map. Some times, this mechanic was just some optional story, some times it was a hint about what to do on the map, and some times it was goodies, like items and even new characters. But while doing another playthrough of the game, I noticed that if you try to skip through these scenes, the game turns down said optional recruits. You can say yes or no when they ask to join, and the game defaults to no if you try to save a minute of cutscenes.
FFX-2 can be far worse too, it's not just 'not getting the 100% because you skipped dialogue' it's 'not getting 100% because you haven't seen every piece of dialogue in the game' For instance, you walked past an NPC? Perfect Ending gone, was that NPC hidden behind boxes or not at all important to the quest you're on right now? doesn't matter, Perfect Ending gone, It's brutal.
lets make that worse, shall we. you missed seeing that one scene (of several) in chapter 4 where youre just viewing stuff in various areas of spira? goodbye, 100%.
i once watched a "speedrun" video of a weird game called "Manual Samuel", and in THAT game, the narrator says some VERY sarcastic things if you skip a cutscene. "all of the robots go berserk, but YOU don't get to know WHY."
I'm surprised that the Dead Money DLC for Fallout NV didn't make this list. Reading the terminal message logs in the vault clearly warns you not to access a specific terminal message. If you do, then you've permanently locked your character inside the vault. Effectively forcing you to reload an earlier save.
I generally like the Option to Skip, regardless of intent to use it. Because sometimes you died to a boss right after the scene and need to reload, or sometimes it's painfully obvious the sidequest in question just isn't that interesting or your brand of humor.
Just for context on the older games and those ridiculous "how on Earth was I supposed to know that?" puzzles, that's a difficulty level we call "Buy the Guide".
I feel like the fact that the Yakuza games are kinda punishing as if you skip the cutscene you will be completely confused and totally lost as to what exactly is happening at all. Like i skipped a scene and i was sunddenly in a gokart race. I have no idea why or how i got there.
Why people skip story? I understand it during replaying the game, but first time around i don't skip any dialogue and would even sometimes reload save just because i missed part of dialogue or think i didn't hear it quite right
Because some games (funny how FF is right near the top of that list) are so up their own asses and their plots are such gibberish that it takes a lot of forbearance to put up with all the pointless dialogue.
There's a certain type of ADHD that makes it really hard for people to concentrate on long dialogue and cutscenes, even if they're interested in them. I know several people this way who very often skip things for that reason. I also have ADHD, but mine is a different type that doesn't have that problem. It could be my 10th playthrough, and I'm still likely to watch all of it. I only skip if it's a case where I'm replaying for achievements or something after just finishing the game.
@@Spotastic9 Yeah I have that problem actually, that is why rather than skip I reload 3-4 times to actually catch every bit of dialogue instead... I am like "damn I failed to concentrate on dialogue again... RELOAD"
Because everyone enjoys games for different reasons. I enjoy dialogue and story too, some people just want to explore, some people just want to fight things or do missions and get gold. There's no wrong way to play games as long as you're enjoying it.
There is a text adventure game for DOS called Humbug. You have to really pay attention to what you are doing as well as all of the descriptions, paragraphs and hints. One wrong move and/or save and you have to start the game all over again.
This may have been made before her time in the hospital. She just got home the other day, and list videos are often 3-4 week projects due to the detailed editing.
A friend of mine got The Song ending accidentally, because he spent too long admiring the area she's in. When he asked me what happened and I explained, he went to resume on stream. I knew what was about to happen and he was confused. So I told him "That IS an ending, after all." His response was "Oh. Oh that I hate." and proceeded to first try slaughter his way back to the song and immediately run for the elevator this time, utterly pissed at what happened. Then he needed to rest for the night after struggling a dozen times or so on The Song. Point of order about this, it doesn't matter if your moving about the area, if you don't get on the elevator soon enough, you get The Song ending.
I think that the great irony of the little girls in bioshock is they are the only outcome deciding element of the game that you have a choice on. And the impact of that choice on actual gameplay is minimal even for novice players, as you will be swimming in adam by mid game, regardless.
😂 Playing The Quarry right now on Game Pass … I intentionally checked the sound as I didn’t like the character. She called it out as well, so I happily went along with it.
The first Neverwinter Nights PC game has a scene where if you try to rush through the story text and not let the voice actor statements play out in full, an innocent man is judged as guilty and killed, resulting in an innocent man dying and the playable character losing out on item rewards and XP.
In the campaign A Tale Of Two Brothers of the game Battle for Wesnoth two passwords are mentioned in the story. If the player skips the dialog and inserts the wrong passwords when requested, they will have a much harder time.
My favourite thing is genuinely ignoring the story in games and just go exploring. Best example are far cry games/assassin's creed games/red dead. I love games that don't force you to end the story as soon as possible.
I have put 110+ hours into Dragon Age: Inquisition, and have done so many side quests and optional stuff that I have gotten to the point of being over-leveled for the main story.
Me with STALKER 2 right now half way across the map into the red forest barely out of the tutorial area made an epic stash with many checkpoints unlocked and many traumatizing moments as first time in the zone.... Love it.
I spent so long in Fallout 3 clearing out every location I could that when I eventually got around to doing the main quest most areas were already empty and I zoomed through the last few missions with few encounters.
So, for X-2, did that happen if you skipped a scene you were seeing a second time, like a monologue before a tough fight you died and repeated? If so, that's crazy
Yup. Tried it once. Absolute nightmare. Did you accidentally touch the skip button 0.4 milliseconds before the cutscene ended? Well that's that playthrough down the drain! Only in a New Game + can you skip something you've already fully watched, but can you remember which scenes you have and haven't seen for an entire Final Fantasy game?
You get the completion for the first time so you don’t need to do it twice (say if you’re doing a second playthrough). Think you need to do multiple playthroughs anyway (2 I think but it took me 3)
@@jekw23 You can 100% FFX-2 on a 1st playthru, but it is one of the most convoluted, tedious, patience-burning, and easily failed experiences in gaming. Even diligently following a guide, since the playthru is so long, you can easily make 1 minor mistake worth a tiny fraction of a % and not even realize your mistake until the end of the game. Incidentally, since 100% also involves grinding up strong enough to beat all the game's superbosses as part of 100%ing the story... yeah. NG+ and alternate decisions get up to like 110% completion percentage, meaning a NG+ run can easily 100% without doing everything perfectly.
Once you have completed a cutscene and it has registered for your completion, you don't have to do so in later NG+ playthroughs. There is only one exception to this: Listening to Maechen in Mushroom Rock Road. If you skip any of his extremely long dialogue at all, in any playthrough, you miss him appearing in Zanarkand in Chapter 5 of that playthrough. You will get an Episode Concluded, and not an Episode Complete.
The thing about the genocide run in undertale is, you can't accidentally stumble on it. You have to actively hunt the monsters until they stop appearing in encounters before moving to the next area
The Furi one is such bullshit. So a player who stops to enjoy the musical piece which was crafted for the game is tangibly punished for actually appreciating the work that went into the game. That'd make me refund it for sure.
oh, something similar happens in "Metal Gear Solid 5"! your first real mission is to rescue your old teammate. if you take too long to find him, he dies and you fail and have to restart the mission. someone even TELLS you "i figure he's only got 3 days left"!
The percentage in FF X-2 is cumulative so if you missed any cutscenes during your first playthough and you sided with The Youth League (which is needed to get 100% in a single playthough) during New Game Plus any cutscenes you didn't see during the initial playthough will count. So with that 97% you could have just sided with New Yevon and the cutscenes you would have seen could have brought you to 100%.
There's even multiple other mutually exclusive completion score events. For example the mission to rescue the hypello in the first chapter, there are different events for if you meet Tobli before the mission or after and they both award a point.
The Videogame Outcast, mostly let's you skip dialog. Except for the Begger Mogi in Okriana. He will not give you his quest reward if you skip his dialog!
The story is the main reason I play, the gameplay always passes for me if I can beat the gameplay. Some people even want to skip Mass Effect's story 😲 The Witcher may not have the best graphics or gameplay (it's not that hard), but I enjoyed the story and exploration. Since it lacks controller support, I use Steam's controller configuration to map the mouse and keyboard. Now I'm sure the remake will improve on the graphics and gameplay, and are they even making games without controller support these days 🤔 (the remake might come to consoles too, then PlayStation players will want a port of The Witcher 2 at the very least) Now there's a difference between skipping the main story and prolonging it. Sometimes side quests are unavailable if you advance the main story. In The Witcher 3, I discovered a new quest just by turning in a contract earlier than usual, Geralt gets arrested for self defense and wow. If I waited until after the King's Gambit, then I'd still not know about it. If you don't do the King's Gambit before a certain point, that too will be missed and Cerys won't be Queen 😥
I genocide ending-ed the first time I played Undertale. I got impatient very quickly during the first fight, hit mercy twice, and still it carried on, so I realized it was much, much faster and easier to just kill everyone you came across, and carried on my way like this. Killing Toriel was a little sad, so I did actually try at first to see if I could spare her, which, since I knew nothing about the game didn't know if it was for sure posible, but I got frustrated and impatient, and then killed her too. I was playing like you'd play Pokémon, so from the beginning I was wandering around triggering every possible encounter, in order to level grind. After I beat the game, and the Sans fight, I did a little bit of online reading (though not enough), learned it is possible to not kill anyone, and decided to replay it, which is when I learned that doing the genocide route permanently affects future runs of the game.
I would argue that you can't really trust anyone in Bioshock, so ignoring Tenenbaum doesn't mean you aren't following the story. I mean a slave obeys, after all.
I was watching one youtuber that was playing a game and he tried to open a door. How the door could be opened was told in the dialog but he was talking about how he loved the game and so on, so he did not listen at all. Also he tried to run past what was done in a particular order all the while telling how he loved the game. So now i more or less watch someone for a solution to a problem in the game and not a full gameplay. For me i listen to the story and play accordingly, and much later or in Starfields case the NG+ i am more into exploring other parts of the game since i already played it like i should.
Welcome back Jess! 💜 And, I think my favorite absolutely is Deus Ex: Human Revolution. The tongue lashing for faffing about is just savage! It doesn't count for this list though since you can keep going, but it's still funny when you don't expect it.
That King's Quest thing was something that was patched out by many people. Yes, the actual OWNERS of the game said "I'm not having none of your nonsense, game developers!" and neutered that flag.
FFX-2 literally made me rage for accidentally skipping a single line of dialogue. Made it to 99.9% and anytime I've ever considered replaying the game I think back to that and just end up saying "nah not worth it". That was when the game first came out and I was following a game guide
I think always heading in the opposite direction is a win. You usually always find a secret at the start of a level of you just turn around before running off haha
I would like to point out that the decision to spare the little sisters or not has no effect on the ending you are not determined to be the bad guy because you do that
Funny Enouth, the 10-2 thing actually isnt fully True. Thanks to a Dedicated Member of the Speedrun Community, we learned thats its only SPECIFIC, VOICED dialogue lines that progress the game %, allowing us to still skip sceenes once all of these important lines have been heared in a cutsceene
Not sure if it qualifies, but pausing too long in the Persona games get you introduced to The Reaper. Similar note, and also scared the sh@t out of me, cuz I didn’t know it was a thing, and I was like 10… But Chocobo’s Dungeon 2. “Death is Coming” is a terrifying thing to put in a game meant for teenagers, at the oldest
For me, I've always had two separate terms. Completing a game, vs, finishing a game. Completing a game means you got all achievements, whereas finishing just means going from start to an ending. I'm a finisher. I don't have the time or patience to be a completionist
Stanley Parable’s coward ending isn’t really punishing as much as a funny haha ending Now running through the actual story and making it to the boss’s office while Narrator is still talking, he will force you to stop and take a break with soft jazz music
While all these are interesting and I can see the logic of the developers there're two things I think they should do on top of these. The first is give the gamers a warning that's more right in your face and totally obvious about these "punishments" seeing as a gamer may not want to purchase it if they knew about them. In essence the developers are doing the same thing the gaming industry used to do before the advent of the game rating system. You have no idea if you'll be sold a lemon for an apple. The second thing I've yet to see is developers targeting the plethora of modders in the modding community. Just like they did in FF X-2 punishing the gamer for not listening to all the dialogue the developers should imo target the modding community especially when just like the dialogue the rendering of the graphics be it the characters themselves or the backgrounds as well as the placing of items and the like are equally as time consuming as the game's dialogue and sometimes even more important. I'd like to see developers punish those gamers who tinker with their game's appearances or attire or the backgrounds or even the placement of items. If the background is altered then the game freezes and the gamer has to start the game anew for tampering with it. If items are tampered with then they become useless and soft lock the game with the same effect. If it's the characters who are changed or given attire not in the game itself then the punishment should be the character gradually being debuffed in damage output over time making it impossible to solve the game towards the end. Naturally like above a warning should be given that is totally blatant and not hidden or vague.
Yes, getting 100% in FFX, even with a guide means doing the right things in the right order. If you miss one detail, 100% on 1st attempt is impossible.
I wouldnt say the undertale genocide run counts. This is absolutly something you do intentional and not just by ignoring the story. You have to go out of your way and grind in every single area for quite a while.
for me u shouldn't be punished for skipping cutscenes especally if u have played the game multiple times and seen all the cutscenes esspecally when u have games that r vary long like final fantasy and u don't have a lot of time to play them when u want to replay them
"Cant 100% game if you skipped dialogues" RIP Horizon Forbidden West players [*] Tbh I dont think if I ever listetend to whole dialogues in this game... They are just ridiculously long compared to HZD. So I just read them and when I did that I instantly skipped to another line so I wouldnt waste time. I feel like listening to all dialogues could take more time than finishing some missions xD. As for unskippable cutscenes... I think only worse thing than that is unskippable credits after ending the game... If not skipping they should just give us option to fast foward these credits like they did in Horizon Forbidden West... as for long credits id give a example of Watch Dogs 1... also it has like 2 or even 3 different credits and you cant skip it which is so annoying.
As someone, who dislikes _too much_ obnoxious fooling around _and_ these ''spoilerbaby'' times - I appreciate Denise from GTA SA telling us that Smoke's been selling crack when her relationship status goes zero, as one of her ''break-up'' calls... I mean - c'mon. Given the mere 3 missions worth of time before The Green Sabre and the easy AF date completions, _even if_ you can skip like 2 in-between, AND more than plenty of bar time - you deserve a lil push to actually play the game
I love all the Jess vids, but I constantly worry with how much she grins that her cheek bones are just gonna straight up explode. Regardless, love the content, thanks for entertaining us all 🤗.
10 Games That Punish You For Ignoring The Story aka anything but good ending, the only one that is actually in line with the title is ff that is actually kinda weird. If you have a choice mean is your story and your ending so have nothing to do about getting punished. There are tho some legit games that do actually that, for exemple you are getting ready for a war but the game keep saying you that you might need to do more research, if you ignore it and still start the war this will make you loose it cause you are missing some tactical advanteges, that makes sense and in fact you are getting punished cause you didn't do your job well, but other then this, eh..
Not to mention that to 100 x2 you have to talk to every char in the world in every chapter and can't go backwards. So on your 3rd attempt to 100 it you skip the dualogue and get 99...fml
I don't think dev should punish players for skipping the cutscenes. Sure it may seem like players are ignoring dev hard work by skipping, but what happen if the reason for skipping is because they already played the game 10 times already? Wouldn't that mean the opposite is true? Being punished because players care about dev hard work? Lol XD
FFX-2 was seriously one of the biggest BS game designs I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing. I don't know a single FF fan who said FFX-2 was a good game. There were good aspects but they were easily overshadowed by the annoyances it offered instead.
@@cppblank Jess has been tacking some personal leave from long form stuff for about 6 weeks. She should return full time at some point. She post sill stuff on Instagram almost daily
Rhabk god Horizon: Forbidden West didnt do this lol , i skipped about a good 60% of that absolute waffle. Fighting mech dinos was awsome but the story was just ultra boring.
My god, she is annoying to listen to and look at whilst talking, like she takes up 20% time of the video, where you could show or let the game audio play. Good video idea, just not a fan of the execution of it.
So in Shenmue if you ignore the side stuff entirely and concentrate entirely on martial arts and story, do you ever win? Or is it a game with no... Point at all?
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Fire Emblem Path of Radiance had a mechanic wherein you could get some pre-battle dialogue in the preparations before the next map. Some times, this mechanic was just some optional story, some times it was a hint about what to do on the map, and some times it was goodies, like items and even new characters. But while doing another playthrough of the game, I noticed that if you try to skip through these scenes, the game turns down said optional recruits. You can say yes or no when they ask to join, and the game defaults to no if you try to save a minute of cutscenes.
FFX-2 can be far worse too, it's not just 'not getting the 100% because you skipped dialogue' it's 'not getting 100% because you haven't seen every piece of dialogue in the game'
For instance, you walked past an NPC? Perfect Ending gone, was that NPC hidden behind boxes or not at all important to the quest you're on right now? doesn't matter, Perfect Ending gone,
It's brutal.
Ah, yes. The infamous "Moogle" in the tutorial mission.
lets make that worse, shall we. you missed seeing that one scene (of several) in chapter 4 where youre just viewing stuff in various areas of spira? goodbye, 100%.
i once watched a "speedrun" video of a weird game called "Manual Samuel", and in THAT game, the narrator says some VERY sarcastic things if you skip a cutscene.
"all of the robots go berserk, but YOU don't get to know WHY."
I'm surprised that the Dead Money DLC for Fallout NV didn't make this list.
Reading the terminal message logs in the vault clearly warns you not to access a specific terminal message. If you do, then you've permanently locked your character inside the vault.
Effectively forcing you to reload an earlier save.
I generally like the Option to Skip, regardless of intent to use it.
Because sometimes you died to a boss right after the scene and need to reload, or sometimes it's painfully obvious the sidequest in question just isn't that interesting or your brand of humor.
Yup same
Just for context on the older games and those ridiculous "how on Earth was I supposed to know that?" puzzles, that's a difficulty level we call "Buy the Guide".
I feel like the fact that the Yakuza games are kinda punishing as if you skip the cutscene you will be completely confused and totally lost as to what exactly is happening at all. Like i skipped a scene and i was sunddenly in a gokart race. I have no idea why or how i got there.
Why people skip story? I understand it during replaying the game, but first time around i don't skip any dialogue and would even sometimes reload save just because i missed part of dialogue or think i didn't hear it quite right
Because some games (funny how FF is right near the top of that list) are so up their own asses and their plots are such gibberish that it takes a lot of forbearance to put up with all the pointless dialogue.
@mage1439 meh... I listen to every trader in skyrim...
There's a certain type of ADHD that makes it really hard for people to concentrate on long dialogue and cutscenes, even if they're interested in them. I know several people this way who very often skip things for that reason. I also have ADHD, but mine is a different type that doesn't have that problem. It could be my 10th playthrough, and I'm still likely to watch all of it. I only skip if it's a case where I'm replaying for achievements or something after just finishing the game.
@@Spotastic9 Yeah I have that problem actually, that is why rather than skip I reload 3-4 times to actually catch every bit of dialogue instead... I am like "damn I failed to concentrate on dialogue again... RELOAD"
Because everyone enjoys games for different reasons. I enjoy dialogue and story too, some people just want to explore, some people just want to fight things or do missions and get gold. There's no wrong way to play games as long as you're enjoying it.
There is a text adventure game for DOS called Humbug. You have to really pay attention to what you are doing as well as all of the descriptions, paragraphs and hints. One wrong move and/or save and you have to start the game all over again.
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This may have been made before her time in the hospital. She just got home the other day, and list videos are often 3-4 week projects due to the detailed editing.
I just want cutscenes with play controls! Be able to pause or rewind something.
A friend of mine got The Song ending accidentally, because he spent too long admiring the area she's in. When he asked me what happened and I explained, he went to resume on stream. I knew what was about to happen and he was confused. So I told him "That IS an ending, after all." His response was "Oh. Oh that I hate." and proceeded to first try slaughter his way back to the song and immediately run for the elevator this time, utterly pissed at what happened. Then he needed to rest for the night after struggling a dozen times or so on The Song. Point of order about this, it doesn't matter if your moving about the area, if you don't get on the elevator soon enough, you get The Song ending.
I think that the great irony of the little girls in bioshock is they are the only outcome deciding element of the game that you have a choice on. And the impact of that choice on actual gameplay is minimal even for novice players, as you will be swimming in adam by mid game, regardless.
😂 Playing The Quarry right now on Game Pass … I intentionally checked the sound as I didn’t like the character. She called it out as well, so I happily went along with it.
Knowing how hard Furi is, that save file deletion "ending" would have made me hunt down the developer that put it in the game, John Wick style.
The first Neverwinter Nights PC game has a scene where if you try to rush through the story text and not let the voice actor statements play out in full, an innocent man is judged as guilty and killed, resulting in an innocent man dying and the playable character losing out on item rewards and XP.
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In the campaign A Tale Of Two Brothers of the game Battle for Wesnoth two passwords are mentioned in the story. If the player skips the dialog and inserts the wrong passwords when requested, they will have a much harder time.
Why add a skip button if your going to punish them for using it.
Because they can 😂
My favourite thing is genuinely ignoring the story in games and just go exploring. Best example are far cry games/assassin's creed games/red dead. I love games that don't force you to end the story as soon as possible.
so you can play for 2 hours got borded and play mgs3 for the 7 time again
I have put 110+ hours into Dragon Age: Inquisition, and have done so many side quests and optional stuff that I have gotten to the point of being over-leveled for the main story.
I have almost 300hrs in red dead 2 and I just finished the epilogue a couple days ago 😂
Me with STALKER 2 right now half way across the map into the red forest barely out of the tutorial area made an epic stash with many checkpoints unlocked and many traumatizing moments as first time in the zone.... Love it.
I spent so long in Fallout 3 clearing out every location I could that when I eventually got around to doing the main quest most areas were already empty and I zoomed through the last few missions with few encounters.
So, for X-2, did that happen if you skipped a scene you were seeing a second time, like a monologue before a tough fight you died and repeated? If so, that's crazy
Yup. Tried it once. Absolute nightmare. Did you accidentally touch the skip button 0.4 milliseconds before the cutscene ended? Well that's that playthrough down the drain! Only in a New Game + can you skip something you've already fully watched, but can you remember which scenes you have and haven't seen for an entire Final Fantasy game?
You get the completion for the first time so you don’t need to do it twice (say if you’re doing a second playthrough).
Think you need to do multiple playthroughs anyway (2 I think but it took me 3)
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey love the series but some of the requirements where wack
@@jekw23 You can 100% FFX-2 on a 1st playthru, but it is one of the most convoluted, tedious, patience-burning, and easily failed experiences in gaming. Even diligently following a guide, since the playthru is so long, you can easily make 1 minor mistake worth a tiny fraction of a % and not even realize your mistake until the end of the game. Incidentally, since 100% also involves grinding up strong enough to beat all the game's superbosses as part of 100%ing the story... yeah.
NG+ and alternate decisions get up to like 110% completion percentage, meaning a NG+ run can easily 100% without doing everything perfectly.
Once you have completed a cutscene and it has registered for your completion, you don't have to do so in later NG+ playthroughs. There is only one exception to this: Listening to Maechen in Mushroom Rock Road. If you skip any of his extremely long dialogue at all, in any playthrough, you miss him appearing in Zanarkand in Chapter 5 of that playthrough. You will get an Episode Concluded, and not an Episode Complete.
The thing about the genocide run in undertale is, you can't accidentally stumble on it. You have to actively hunt the monsters until they stop appearing in encounters before moving to the next area
The Furi one is such bullshit. So a player who stops to enjoy the musical piece which was crafted for the game is tangibly punished for actually appreciating the work that went into the game.
That'd make me refund it for sure.
Where's Deus Ex: Human Revolution? If you spend too much time wandering in the building, they tell you the hostages are dead and it's game over!
oh, something similar happens in "Metal Gear Solid 5"!
your first real mission is to rescue your old teammate.
if you take too long to find him, he dies and you fail and have to restart the mission.
someone even TELLS you "i figure he's only got 3 days left"!
Deadpool roasts me? how is that a punishment? oO Thats an honor!
The percentage in FF X-2 is cumulative so if you missed any cutscenes during your first playthough and you sided with The Youth League (which is needed to get 100% in a single playthough) during New Game Plus any cutscenes you didn't see during the initial playthough will count. So with that 97% you could have just sided with New Yevon and the cutscenes you would have seen could have brought you to 100%.
New Game Plusses don't count.
...also f#%* New Yevon
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
Think your right, but damn no one I would skip their huge monster dungeon.
There's even multiple other mutually exclusive completion score events. For example the mission to rescue the hypello in the first chapter, there are different events for if you meet Tobli before the mission or after and they both award a point.
There are 110%, so you only have to do 90% of things and still get it. However, the game design is still silly at best.
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The Videogame Outcast, mostly let's you skip dialog.
Except for the Begger Mogi in Okriana. He will not give you his quest reward if you skip his dialog!
The story is the main reason I play, the gameplay always passes for me if I can beat the gameplay. Some people even want to skip Mass Effect's story 😲
The Witcher may not have the best graphics or gameplay (it's not that hard), but I enjoyed the story and exploration. Since it lacks controller support, I use Steam's controller configuration to map the mouse and keyboard. Now I'm sure the remake will improve on the graphics and gameplay, and are they even making games without controller support these days 🤔 (the remake might come to consoles too, then PlayStation players will want a port of The Witcher 2 at the very least)
Now there's a difference between skipping the main story and prolonging it. Sometimes side quests are unavailable if you advance the main story. In The Witcher 3, I discovered a new quest just by turning in a contract earlier than usual, Geralt gets arrested for self defense and wow. If I waited until after the King's Gambit, then I'd still not know about it. If you don't do the King's Gambit before a certain point, that too will be missed and Cerys won't be Queen 😥
I genocide ending-ed the first time I played Undertale. I got impatient very quickly during the first fight, hit mercy twice, and still it carried on, so I realized it was much, much faster and easier to just kill everyone you came across, and carried on my way like this. Killing Toriel was a little sad, so I did actually try at first to see if I could spare her, which, since I knew nothing about the game didn't know if it was for sure posible, but I got frustrated and impatient, and then killed her too. I was playing like you'd play Pokémon, so from the beginning I was wandering around triggering every possible encounter, in order to level grind. After I beat the game, and the Sans fight, I did a little bit of online reading (though not enough), learned it is possible to not kill anyone, and decided to replay it, which is when I learned that doing the genocide route permanently affects future runs of the game.
I would argue that you can't really trust anyone in Bioshock, so ignoring Tenenbaum doesn't mean you aren't following the story. I mean a slave obeys, after all.
I was watching one youtuber that was playing a game and he tried to open a door. How the door could be opened was told in the dialog but he was talking about how he loved the game and so on, so he did not listen at all. Also he tried to run past what was done in a particular order all the while telling how he loved the game. So now i more or less watch someone for a solution to a problem in the game and not a full gameplay. For me i listen to the story and play accordingly, and much later or in Starfields case the NG+ i am more into exploring other parts of the game since i already played it like i should.
Welcome back Jess! 💜 And, I think my favorite absolutely is Deus Ex: Human Revolution. The tongue lashing for faffing about is just savage! It doesn't count for this list though since you can keep going, but it's still funny when you don't expect it.
10:09 this was not the place a expected to here the Doofenshmirtz meme
Lightning Returns
dead rising, and also way of the samurai
That King's Quest thing was something that was patched out by many people.
Yes, the actual OWNERS of the game said "I'm not having none of your nonsense, game developers!" and neutered that flag.
Jess, your reference to Final Fantasy VII, two knicles, love it! ❤
Feeling the "skip awkwardness" from my current playthrough of "In Stars and Time", though it's helpful.
9:30 "Ackshually the 1990 spiderman animation did the spiderverse before the spiderverse"
And the spiderman 90s animated series did the spiderverse before shattered dimensions
I love your shirt! I tried getting the same one online months ago but it's always sold out. 😭
FFX-2 literally made me rage for accidentally skipping a single line of dialogue. Made it to 99.9% and anytime I've ever considered replaying the game I think back to that and just end up saying "nah not worth it". That was when the game first came out and I was following a game guide
I think always heading in the opposite direction is a win. You usually always find a secret at the start of a level of you just turn around before running off haha
Love the Phineas and Ferb reference!!
I would like to point out that the decision to spare the little sisters or not has no effect on the ending you are not determined to be the bad guy because you do that
Funny Enouth, the 10-2 thing actually isnt fully True. Thanks to a Dedicated Member of the Speedrun Community, we learned thats its only SPECIFIC, VOICED dialogue lines that progress the game %, allowing us to still skip sceenes once all of these important lines have been heared in a cutsceene
Love Jess! Happy to see you back
Not sure if it qualifies, but pausing too long in the Persona games get you introduced to The Reaper.
Similar note, and also scared the sh@t out of me, cuz I didn’t know it was a thing, and I was like 10…
But Chocobo’s Dungeon 2. “Death is Coming” is a terrifying thing to put in a game meant for teenagers, at the oldest
I feel like I'm watching outside xbox, this girl acts, moves, and even talks in the same inflection as the Girl from outside Xtra, it's stunning
The thing is, if I already don't care about the dialogue, why would I care about 100%?
Achievements......
Its not so much the main dialogue but the potentially boring side content too
For me, I've always had two separate terms. Completing a game, vs, finishing a game. Completing a game means you got all achievements, whereas finishing just means going from start to an ending. I'm a finisher. I don't have the time or patience to be a completionist
@@reniervandermerwe not everyone cares about getting achievements/trophies
Because you may be playing it for the 4th time and only now wanted to get 100%? That does happen.
Stanley Parable’s coward ending isn’t really punishing as much as a funny haha ending
Now running through the actual story and making it to the boss’s office while Narrator is still talking, he will force you to stop and take a break with soft jazz music
While all these are interesting and I can see the logic of the developers there're two things I think they should do on top of these. The first is give the gamers a warning that's more right in your face and totally obvious about these "punishments" seeing as a gamer may not want to purchase it if they knew about them. In essence the developers are doing the same thing the gaming industry used to do before the advent of the game rating system. You have no idea if you'll be sold a lemon for an apple.
The second thing I've yet to see is developers targeting the plethora of modders in the modding community. Just like they did in FF X-2 punishing the gamer for not listening to all the dialogue the developers should imo target the modding community especially when just like the dialogue the rendering of the graphics be it the characters themselves or the backgrounds as well as the placing of items and the like are equally as time consuming as the game's dialogue and sometimes even more important. I'd like to see developers punish those gamers who tinker with their game's appearances or attire or the backgrounds or even the placement of items. If the background is altered then the game freezes and the gamer has to start the game anew for tampering with it. If items are tampered with then they become useless and soft lock the game with the same effect. If it's the characters who are changed or given attire not in the game itself then the punishment should be the character gradually being debuffed in damage output over time making it impossible to solve the game towards the end. Naturally like above a warning should be given that is totally blatant and not hidden or vague.
Correction on #2: The title of the game is “Romancing the Throne.”
Don’t know why, but so many of Jess’s vids have glaring errors in them. 😤
I believe "Shenmue" is the Japanese word for tricking someone into doing your chores for you.
Yes, getting 100% in FFX, even with a guide means doing the right things in the right order. If you miss one detail, 100% on 1st attempt is impossible.
I kinda agree with ff10 2 ...if you don't watch the story at least once you haven't really completed the game.
Look, it's my fault that I'm curious about random noises that happen near me, but it's Emma's fault for even having that as an option. 🤷♂
I wouldnt say the undertale genocide run counts. This is absolutly something you do intentional and not just by ignoring the story. You have to go out of your way and grind in every single area for quite a while.
Ok, so I didn’t mean to kill Emma. I misinterpreted whatever thing that is SUPPOSED to give ya heads up on what to do. Not my fault!
I wish they used timestamps more.
Also to the Random super-sexy person that does it in the comments.
You're wonderful
for me u shouldn't be punished for skipping cutscenes especally if u have played the game multiple times and seen all the cutscenes esspecally when u have games that r vary long like final fantasy and u don't have a lot of time to play them when u want to replay them
I actually completed FF X-2 100% back around when it first came out (I did use the strategy guide but I did it.) 😩
another game that does that is pathologic 2 where you can sleep through the whole game, but if you do uou'll have the worst ending
Final Fantasy 14:A Realm Reborn and its expansions
Punishes you by making you do the story
Why would someone get 100% completion of a game if they skipped part of the game? It seems like an obvious thing to do.
So in other words, 10 games where developers get punished by creating games everyone wants to ignore😎
For Bioshock I sided with Atlas so I dont know I dont think its completely obvious I got the bad ending my first time playing it
"Cant 100% game if you skipped dialogues"
RIP Horizon Forbidden West players [*]
Tbh I dont think if I ever listetend to whole dialogues in this game... They are just ridiculously long compared to HZD. So I just read them and when I did that I instantly skipped to another line so I wouldnt waste time. I feel like listening to all dialogues could take more time than finishing some missions xD.
As for unskippable cutscenes... I think only worse thing than that is unskippable credits after ending the game... If not skipping they should just give us option to fast foward these credits like they did in Horizon Forbidden West... as for long credits id give a example of Watch Dogs 1... also it has like 2 or even 3 different credits and you cant skip it which is so annoying.
As someone, who dislikes _too much_ obnoxious fooling around _and_ these ''spoilerbaby'' times - I appreciate Denise from GTA SA telling us that Smoke's been selling crack when her relationship status goes zero, as one of her ''break-up'' calls... I mean - c'mon. Given the mere 3 missions worth of time before The Green Sabre and the easy AF date completions, _even if_ you can skip like 2 in-between, AND more than plenty of bar time - you deserve a lil push to actually play the game
I love all the Jess vids, but I constantly worry with how much she grins that her cheek bones are just gonna straight up explode. Regardless, love the content, thanks for entertaining us all 🤗.
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10 Games That Punish You For Ignoring The Story aka anything but good ending, the only one that is actually in line with the title is ff that is actually kinda weird. If you have a choice mean is your story and your ending so have nothing to do about getting punished. There are tho some legit games that do actually that, for exemple you are getting ready for a war but the game keep saying you that you might need to do more research, if you ignore it and still start the war this will make you loose it cause you are missing some tactical advanteges, that makes sense and in fact you are getting punished cause you didn't do your job well, but other then this, eh..
Not to mention that to 100 x2 you have to talk to every char in the world in every chapter and can't go backwards. So on your 3rd attempt to 100 it you skip the dualogue and get 99...fml
Doesn't FFX2 punish the player for just playing?
Me who didn’t know that you could skip in FF X-2 got 100% just fine.
It's Deadpool so, not a punishment 😅
Hi Jess!
I don't think dev should punish players for skipping the cutscenes. Sure it may seem like players are ignoring dev hard work by skipping, but what happen if the reason for skipping is because they already played the game 10 times already? Wouldn't that mean the opposite is true? Being punished because players care about dev hard work? Lol XD
If a developer puts something into a game then punishes the player for interacting with it they don't deserve people's money.
Check the noice, ya that's me :p
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That's a cute top!
Did Jess Mcdonald develop a speech impediment, or something?
FFX-2 was seriously one of the biggest BS game designs I've ever had the displeasure of experiencing. I don't know a single FF fan who said FFX-2 was a good game. There were good aspects but they were easily overshadowed by the annoyances it offered instead.
Did Jess Sayin' get killed?
Jess has been away for awhile on leave. Im sure Jess Say 'in will return at some point.
@stevecraig7643 wasn't the last one just over a week ago? I guess they could have had them recorded in advance though
@@cppblank Jess has been tacking some personal leave from long form stuff for about 6 weeks. She should return full time at some point. She post sill stuff on Instagram almost daily
@stevecraig7643 oh cool. I avoid social media as much as possible so I didn't know that
Rhabk god Horizon: Forbidden West didnt do this lol , i skipped about a good 60% of that absolute waffle. Fighting mech dinos was awsome but the story was just ultra boring.
No persona 5 royal on this list?!
That haircut…my god
Final Fantasy X and X-2 are two of the greatest games of all time
meh. i still prefer and playthrough 4-6
My god, she is annoying to listen to and look at whilst talking, like she takes up 20% time of the video, where you could show or let the game audio play. Good video idea, just not a fan of the execution of it.
Yeah, X-2 is terrible at this, lol
Oh good, the real woman is hosting this one.
A good measure of what to play etc is if Jess is talking about it, then you can turn the vid off and play a game. Win win wide grin.
She's cute
But the stories are crap and written by teenagers for tweens, so who cares?
I don't like Deadpool
for me console gaming died over 20 years ago these days for me console gaming is dead
Neat
thats really neat. so why bother commenting?
wish i could skip you talking at the beginning, make chapters
So in Shenmue if you ignore the side stuff entirely and concentrate entirely on martial arts and story, do you ever win? Or is it a game with no... Point at all?