Octopath Traveler: Tying Together The Stories
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Graham being transformed into redeye is why
1. The cry it makes before ha’annit approaches sounds like a human voice wailing in pain
2. Ha’annit cannot read the heart of redeye, since he is a transformed man and not a beast.
I like how the game actually gives you pieces of the puzzle by the end and you can actually discover the lore by yourself before even doing the gate of finis
I bet that Werner was supposed to be the warlord but got corrupted, Lucia or Yvon the sorcerer supreme, Esmeralda the rune lord, and Mattias the starseer
When I first played the game, I tied everything and took many, MANY notes. Eventually I played the game again and I realized how much everything was connected, and even the side stories are connected to the main. I love this game, it's one of my favorites of all time!
you played the most over grindy rpg ever made more then once?
@@WM-mu8ep overly grindy? Are you off your meds again?
I loved this game. But fuck me the grind was tough at times.@@WM-mu8ep
@@WM-mu8epYou haven't played ,any RPG's if you call this the most grindy.
Thank you for putting this together! I honestly think the presentation of all this is where they failed. Hiding all of this behind layers of side-quests and then having the giant spike in difficulty made this pretty obscured. Honestly though, I think a lot of that came down to funding and timing for the devs. At a guess I think they hit a deadline and couldn't finish a CH 5 so they put just enough side-quest stuff to get you to a dungeon they were only partly able to complete.
Octopath story seems convoluted because each character never communicated with each other explaining the cause and effect of their action. We as the player who must arrange the puzzling story itself.
yea but i cant really defend this game. they ruined a perfectly good game by making it too grindy. anyone who says they shouldnt of made it less grindy is a idiot. its not a arguement. its not noobs asking for a game to be easy. grinding has nothing to do with skill based. grinding has to do with just wasting peoples f***** time. when compared to other rpgs this is more grindy then 95% of other rpgs out there. its ridiculous and stupid. so most people will never see the end of the game. well atleast the end of all stories.
@@WM-mu8ep when i was told i have to grind hours to be able to get to final boss i legit quit playing :D
@@WM-mu8ep get good-io dude-io
@@WM-mu8ep What level would you say is needed to be able to fight the final boss comfortably? 60, maybe 70? Because that's what a few different places around the web say, and I reached 70 with Tressa (my starting character) easily, and all the others except Ha'anit and Primrose are at least 66. Ha and Prim are both closer to 62, just because I didn't start their quests until after I'd already done Tressa's third chapter. And I've done literally no grinding. Instead, I just _walk_ between areas, instead of using fast travel, and my levels have come naturally.
Rather than needing to be "less grindy," I think the better thing to say is that the level-ups should be more balanced in their gains. Levels 17-20 give more HP per level than any other level-up, from the data graphs I've seen, and _that_ doesn't seem right to me.
Well, with all my characters in their 70's and with the best equipment, at 160 hours into the game, I was unable to beat Galdera. Probably tried about 20 times. I would say, you'll want to have all skills learned for every character at least and probably be at 80+. I am currently grinding to 99 before trying again and it is taking a loooooong time. I will destroy Galdera however. Nothing will stand in my way!!
Thanks for bringing the lore together. Finished the game as well and my theory of why the remaining 4 jobs were vacant (other than the obvious game mechanic) is that the person was either dead (e.g. the previous headmaster of the academy) or the person is too young (e.g. Kaia the dragon mother)
Or the kid that Olberic trains may be the 'warmaster' chosen! How intriguing! :P
And maybe Cyrus’s student becomes the sorcerer
who could have been the young/or dead starseer?
Reaching certain parts of each story and feeling like certain names mentioned were familiar from others, making my own theories as I went along, and then later putting everything together into one beautiful picture at the end during the pre-Galdera boss gauntlet was one of my favorite experiences in any form of media that I have ever had.
You need to play better written games or read a book or something
@@rooty It was more the personal “aha” experience than the actual quality
rewiers telling that the eight stories are not connected... lol
@@Liefwarrior absolutely! But I guess it´s just not as obvious untill you see the very end of the game. But so one can see, that simply a lot of people don´t stay until the end of the game to see its full potential.
@@martintomson8322 The end of the game is typically considered by most people "When you complete all 4 chapters for every protagonist" the story of Kit is actually a side-quest that leads to the real end-game with very little direction that it's where to aim. Unless you're actively trying to complete as many side-quests as possible it's very easy to miss.
@@kurtisschoenberger8516 even without it there are still hints in the main story that there is something connecting them , Graham being mentioned in the stories of Tressa and Alfyn, the Gates of Finis beeping mentioned in the stories of Cyrus , Therion and Olberic , The Obsidians being part of Primrose , Tressa’s and Olberic’s stories , and Galdera and his connection to bring back the dead alongside his malicious power in the Stories of Ophilia , Cyrus and H’aanit
@@Liefwarrior I dont think they are lying. But they didn't finish the game wich is also a terrible way to review games
The point is you don’t ever see them interact with each other in cutscenes. Have ass in convos don’t count😂
The not hand it over type of stories made me found a revelation of some sort. It happens when I see murals on Cyrus' chapter 4 dungeon after seeing the red eye from Ha'anit's story.
I be like "Yo yo yo... this is red eye! Does this mean it is related to the dark god too? Yoooo... the 8 stories is connected"
whoah, I did not know Graham was redeye
Yeah I'm in the gates of finis right now and just found the journal and immediately connected the dots
wow this story. it was all intertwined all along..
I just beat all 4 chapters for all 8 and was not willing to keep leveling and fighting the last bosses shadow forms all in a row lol. So thanks for helping me see how brilliantly interconnected it was anyhow!
The only thing I wish this game did is have the side quests that lead to this endgame dungeon be a mandatory thing inbetween each character's personal stories. I honestly barely did any side quests in this game while trying to play through the chapters because of how confusing the side quests are in the game. If it wasn't for me looking it up online I probably never would have "finished" it.
I’m just over halfway through Octopath Traveler and HOLY SHIT. It DOES all tie together!
How the hell did I missed out that Tressa’s Diary belonged to Alfyn’s ‘mentor’.
That's why Esmeralda stole the book. As a member of the Obsidians she would have been on the look out for leads on Kit for Lyblac and a journal written by his father might have had clues to his whereabouts. It's also why she was mad at the book when she saw it was just a record of his journey looking for the cure to his wife's illness.
Because Alfyn never goes "hey that's the name of my mentor!"
Tressa never goes "Holy shit maybe it's all connected?"
That's the true problem with octopath. Everyone acts like faceless bodyguards during each others stories. At no point is Alfyn given the chance to react to red eye being his mentor. Or Cyrus could react to ophillias story with his knowledge
@@symphonyofaria bc they all optional and non canon each other anyway
i mean it a concept of this game anyway they are just traveler who just cross path and tag along the event that happen is not canon unless we as a player pick them
they not mean to be together or hero who save the world team
I absolutely LOVE this game! I cant wait to see what the studio makes next :) would you prefer a sequel? Or an entirely new series?
Mr Bubble The thing is, your party becomes their champions in the process of defeating them.
Sequel!
Sequel for sure
i cant believe you idiots defend the game being this grindy. there is no reason they cant have the same game just with less grinding. morons defend their time being wasted?
You asked, and Square Enix shall answer
But why did Tressa’s final boss wanted the journal. Is it because she thought it was a copy of the far reaches of hell?
3 months late but...
It's because she's a member of the Obsidians, (her concept art has the crow tattoo on her thigh that was for whatever reason omitted from her sprite). She immediately noticed that the journal had some relation to Graham Crossford and thought it might be a clue of some sorts.
She wanted the notebook because she thought it would be clue to finding the whereabouts of Kit (Crossford's son) because she needed a descendant of Odin Crossford to be a vessel for Galdera.
It's because the characters all needed to have an identical 4 act structure to their stories for some reason. Tressa didn't have an overarching antagonist in her story and you can't create a complex backstory for a new antagonist in a single 30 minute chapter. So just have some random woman turn up and steal the plot macguffin.
Oh wow with the release of the new game, the octopath traveler jrpg, it's basically confirmed that the 8 chars here, plus the 4 chars in the jrpg together are the 12 other gods
"Freeing the realm of his influence forever."
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Octopath Traveler 2 shaped concern emerges
Ok... I haven't finished the game, but THIS IS AWESOME!!!!
Now I'm pumpped up to continue this game.
Do octopath 2 PLEASEEEEE
It's kinda funny how so many people complained that the stories didn't really tie in together
they were filtered by the true final boss's difficulty
@@vengefulbrainiac1395 To be fair its kind of weird how you play with one group the entire game and suddenly they introduced the second group mechanic in the last and hardest fight in the game.
This is so great!! Thanks a lot!
This game trained me to care little about the characters stories as an interconnected thing, so I missed all connections.
I then completed it fully and didn't have a clue why the ending was so pointless.
I came across this video.....oh
I just beat Galdera. I had hoped Tressa's story would tie more into the ending. I still don't know much about her final boss for example. But she's still my favorite and the one I started with.
I think Esmeralda is part of Obsidian which is the group that helped Lyblac keep house Azelheart silent about Galdera. My guess is that she was looking for the diary written by Graham to see if he wrote anything about galdera and destroy it
@@babo1003 More proof for this; her concept art actually has the mark of the crow that the Obsidians have! For some reason, it’s omitted in her sprite, but it’d make sense to be canon.
8:00 Holy shit how did I not catch that while playing
Bro I literally cried when I found our gram became red-eye
Bravo, bravo!
SPOILER IN COMMENTS...
I'm glad you picked up on Graham becoming Red-Eye. Of all the details about the characters, this one was the least explicit, and I even talked with others who played the game to full completion (defeating Galdera) who didn't believe me when I said "no, read into the clues, consider Graham's final journal entry as well as Red-Eye's claims to be human in his dying breaths..."
So ... glad I'm not alone on that. :)
How was this not obvious the whole story is in Finnis.
@@IISuzakuII If they're like me and didnt realise there were books to read after defeating the phantoms in the Gate of Finis
@@amirhamzah3619 lol I can see that
Thank you for this video! Never got the chance to beat the game
Please make an update now that the lore has been expanded in Octopath Traveler 2! Alfred Hornburg (the king Erhardt killed) is seen younger and retrieving the book "From the Far Reaches of Hell" from Solistia to bring back to his country of Orsterra. He first opens the gate of Finnis which is Galdera's first attempt at returning before being pushed back by the travelers of OT2 (confirming OT2 takes place before OT1). Vide is also thrown in the mix in OT2 and you see the fall of Aelfric when fighting Vide.
If you wanted to go REALLY in depth, you could also incorporate the Octopath prequel mobile game, but that would probably be a lot to cover 😂
for how there was almost 0 interaction between the characters, this was hardly a payoff
I'm always confused with blood magic in fiction. If Odin crossford bare no children, the gate would have been locked forever. Very selfish of him to risk the entire world...
Play safe 😂
@@foodiefootprints_ lmaoo
I'm guessing it would work on monarchy rules and keeping going up generations until someone is found, but only the first in line counts.
I have to deeply disagree that the 12 gods were intending to abandon their creation in the wild to be raised by wolves. Considering there are shrines and churches dedicated to them even with the 13th god imprisoned (and later effectively destroyed, or at least his material foot hold in the mortal world), they weren't intended to simply abandon their creation alone in the woods to be eaten by wild animals after giving birth to it.
We actually know why the four super bosses don’t have champions: they weren’t turned into rings.
I'm mad at reviewers for ignoring what was, for me, the best part of the game
I almost never player that game because of them
Um, all the 12 unfallen gods were still alive, right? I did not see anywhere in the game that 11 gods were killed by Galdera.
Jea the gods are still alive
GRAHAM IS REDEYE OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!
How did Primrose’s story tie into this…?
Playing the game alone won't let you know the whole story or the lore of the Octopath Orsterra series. You got to play the mobile game Octopath Champions of the Continent to know it all....
I need more lore, I hope the new game is set in the same world, so why can collect more background about the gods and the history of the world.
Maybe the people in the new land are not very religious so they went down the tech path.
Out of curiosity, was any of this story told in the mobile game? I've been loving that one and it seems to foreshadow a lot of what happens later in the main game
I wish this game explained itself a bit better in the end, I almost drop it after doing chapter 4 of each character cuz I thought it was just postory dungeons and I already unlocked most of the gameplay so it was a bit too repetitive. I also hope octopath 2 feels new gameplay wise since its probably going to have a long duration and have same "jobs".
Thanks for explaining it. I just finished the gate boss rush mode. Overall, what a poor story, where all stories are loosely connected and the reveal of it all feels like they made a mistake and had to tack it all on through and added on boss rush mode that itself has no reason. Good game though, terrible stories.
You should do Octopath travelers 2 now
Genius
I wish I could expirience this for myself.
I git the game free on Xbox One and played the demo on the Nintendo switch. Honestly, best fucking RPG ever. One day I decided to take a break from the game for a while, and recently when I went back... I can no longer play it. It says that I no longer own the game because now whenever something leaves gamepass it is unplayable. What the fuck?
I have to watch this because now I plan on getting Octopath Traveller 2 and this is my only way of learning what happens to all the characters.
This is wonderful. It just annoys me the way you come across each character you get on your team. You walk up to them and they’re always like “I was just on my way to do something real important. You wanna join me?” I feel like just that introduction could have been re-written for each of them to drive home the idea of fate working behind the scenes
Omg so helpful thanks
This reeeeeeally makes me wish the actual game were better written instead of a lot of the plot being pretty much just implicit.
for me it’s exactly on the contrary,
the game not throwing everything onto you and letting you figure stuff out is one of the best parts of it imo.
Love Mcbaise!
@sonic 1995 🤨
@sonic 1995 so you like it when a game babies you instead? Nah thanks, I have a brain I can use myself, I don‘t need someone else to force every little piece of info down my throat, connecting dots myself is way better 🙄😑
@user-px3hw5kz2x You have just a shit brain.
I have played the games two times because of the class/battle system.
The story as a whole is interesting and generally I don´t mind a little puzzling.
For me personally, there is way too much puzzling and the stories of each
are a boring chore to play for me. Nothing really sticks and the gameplay parts seem to fell
short.
so how did primrose story connected again ? did i miss anything ?
It's more incidental based from what I gathered.
>Obsidian was a group that Lyblac propped up therefore the group was actively helping Lyblac in her pursuits in opening the Gates of Finis and revive Galdera. Case in point Mattias contacting Obsidian for help with his exploits and Esmeralda also being part of the Obsidian and knew of Graham Crossford diaries and had intended to use for some reason - possibly looking for clues regarding the Gates of Finis, or most likely the location of his son.
>Obsidian attempted to take root in Noblecourt but Geoffrey Azelhart opposed them, and the more Obsidian attempted to meddle the more Azelhart looked into them to the point he discovered the Gates of Finis through them - making it more apparent that the Obsidian had information of the Gate and more likely were still actively helping Lyblac with her schemes whether knowing her true intentions or not.
>When the Obsidian found out that Geoffrey knew he became an even more liability that they needed to stop ergo the assassination.
Basically, after making sure that all the pieces would fall into place, Lyblac only needed the blood of Odin Crossford but since she didn't know who exactly was the son of Graham she needed time. Within that time she needed to keep the information about the Gate and her scheme to remain a secret lest the Knights of Ardent and the Church of the Sacred Flame came barreling down. So when someone as notable and powerful as Geoffrey Azelhart found out about the Gates of Finis, it would only be a matter of time before he discovered her entire scheme and possibly alert the Knights, the Church, and any other Noble Houses or territories like House Ravus or Marsalim to help stop the plot and even look for Graham Crossford's son themselves and keep him safe.
I've played this game before but I don't know you figure out the Graham is actually redeye
Deadeye and the end of the book in the final dungeon both have the same dialogue as he transforms.
Deadeye also occasionally throws potions at the party, a nod to Graham's conscious still being in there and his role as an apothecary.
Tressa’s entire story line was horrible. The only thing tying her to the others was a book and that part was still very ambiguous. I just really disliked her story compared to the others. It was like playing Ophelia’s chapter 2, 4 times over. Everyone else’s story had either great or satisfying payoffs but that one makes me want to skip it every play through.
The connection is pretty cool though, Esmeralda came to take Graham's Notebook because of the possibility of finding information on the Gate of Finis. I also liked the Chapter with Leon's backstory and the one where Tressa freed the mine workers from the influence of Morlok.
I disagree STRONGLY
Came here to spoil the story since I've already put 50 hours into this game and I am really just tired of it. It's a boring chore of a game, but I do want to see what happens.
BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOUNDS LIKE SOME WAIFU FAN FICTION