This is funny: I was watching you amazing amp demos and thinking "man, wouldn't it be great if he made NAM models of his amazing amps?", but I thought that you wouldn't agree to do that. So awesome of you to be willing to share your amazing tones, Friend!
I love this stuff. Great times to be a guitarist, its way over my head though. I’m an old timer still playing my POd2.0 😎thanks and great playing by the way. 🤘👍
Awesome of you to make a video showing people how to do the training process! This was great:) Ive got some videos for NAM on my channel as well. I also have a video for how to set up the NAM trainer system locally on your PC, as well as another video for how to use the Google Colabs "easy mode" trainer. The more the merrier! Lets keep getting the word out on this awesome software!!!
And FYI - 500 Epochs really does make a better model if you have the patience. The model that comes from a 100 or 500 or 1,000 Epoch training session will have the exact same CPU usage when you are using them so the only thing you are losing is time while you wait for the Epochs to finish. Its worth it, IMHO!
Thank you Jason! Great information, I'm really in the beginning of messing around with NAM. But I love the idea and also the diy approach! Sounds great but I have to get better making the captures 👍 Indeed, spread the word 🤘 //Emil
Thanks, helped a lot getting that done. Just doing that with USB audio via my Kemper ....... it´s just converting in the moment. But with Kemper and USB audio reamping this seems to be pretty simple.
Can you share the sound chain? I understand it's AT CM8201 transformer and a Two Notes loadbox. If you can make a video about that it could be interesting i guess the sound interface is also important for the capture and maybe DI Box???
I get a message: input provided isn't silent for at least 19200 samples before the starting index. responses to this non-silent input may leak into the dataset! Please help
Hi Emil, I just tested your profiles and I overall liked the results. You have a lot of noise somewhere in the chain though, and I suspect also a little too much gain. Not sure if this is because of the device you're using to send the signal to the amp or something else, but your model ended up much noisier than most other high gain profiles I've tried. Would love to try some updated profiles if you manage to fix this
With real amps or amp sims, you can boost the preamp or even the pwer amp by placing some booster ou overdrive pedal (set as a clean booster) before the amp. I guess that doesn't work with a nam profile... So creating an audio chain in a VST host (DAW, or another soft such as Element or Plogue Bidule) with a booster plugin before a NAM profile won't boost the amp profile as it would do if we were using a real amp or an amp sim ?
Cool video. Say I want to capture some profiles of my OCD pedal, should I use a mono line-out from my DAW into the effectspedal, using a device like the CP8201 inbetween? Any suggestion on how to set the correct outputlevel on the interface going into the pedal?
That cp8201 didnt work out quite well. In the next video i replace it with a better solution. But you can try without it. You want to lower the signal to the pedal with a passive volume control (analogue). I say its a bit of trial and error, I got it right the 2nd time. If you can messure the signal after the pedal you want to hit the same levels as with a guitar plugged in to it 👍
Do you use the Torpedo Captor to make your profiles? Or can you? I want to get one so I can record my amp with DynIR cabs, but also to make NAM profiles with it.
Thanks! The Audio Technica jack-thingy, what is the name of the model. please? And does it work exactly like a Palmer DACCAPO or Radial Engineering Pro re-amping box?
I haven't got a verdict on the audio technica yet, still some testing to do. So best to hold off on that. A dedicated reamping box would be safer. In theory it should do the same thing!
@@Rohbemusic Thanks, just never seen one like that before, only the usual boxy ones. 🙂 I guess one pro with the boxes is, that they usually have a dedicated level knob. How it would differ from adjusting the output on your interface, I do not know. 🙂 Ground lift option too, of course.
Its always better to control volume outside the computer otherwise you lower it digitally and May lower resolution. Lifting the ground or isolation is what the reamp box does 👍
what if I play records instead? I want to capture john frusciante's tone... if I play intro's of 'under the bridge' 'snow hey oh' 'soul to squeeze' 'scar tissue' 'can't stop' , will I get that fru tone?
@@Rohbemusic I see I see... I chose those examples by the way because the guitar intros in them are isolated (meaning no other instruments are playing in the mix). Thanks for the reply, cheers
Thank you for the detailed instructions! I tried searching through your videos looking for the answer to this, but what is the xlr to 6.35 mm transformer adapter you're using? I would love to pick one up. Cheers!
You got it! Thanks for watching! Dont bother on that audio technica thing, I ditched it. Wasnt any good for the purpose. Get a real reamp box or build one like I did 👍
Thanks! Yes there's a group on Facebook called Neural Amp Modeler (NAM) Discussion where I'll be posting in the future. I will add some links in the discription for theese profiles also 👍
The reply is fine and accurate. If you want something that replicates the controls of the amp, use a modeller. If you want something that replicates a single tone, use a profiler.
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Wish we had this tech 25 years ago. Such a great time to be a guitarist right now. Thank you for sharing!
You got it 👍 Yes really amazing!
Earlier I thought it's a rocket science... But it's damn simple & straight .. Thx 🎉🎉😊😊
This is funny: I was watching you amazing amp demos and thinking "man, wouldn't it be great if he made NAM models of his amazing amps?", but I thought that you wouldn't agree to do that. So awesome of you to be willing to share your amazing tones, Friend!
Thanks man! Yes offcourse! Just uploaded a new video about NAM and my Mesa Quad preamp!
@@Rohbemusic thanks a lot!
Also just did Lamb of god tones with the Mkiv.
drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1zN9MBpKqUC_7X5F2IYNLoUGoBtPFW3nR?usp=share_link
@@Rohbemusic There is a public repo that is called Tonehunt. Just a heads up ^^
I love this stuff. Great times to be a guitarist, its way over my head though. I’m an old timer still playing my POd2.0 😎thanks and great playing by the way. 🤘👍
Thanks man! You're welcome 👍
So cool that you and I are probably the only ones still rocking the apogee Rosetta 2 in our rig. Bravo man
Yes! I love that thing. 👍
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, going to try my first capture
Awesome of you to make a video showing people how to do the training process! This was great:)
Ive got some videos for NAM on my channel as well. I also have a video for how to set up the NAM trainer system locally on your PC, as well as another video for how to use the Google Colabs "easy mode" trainer.
The more the merrier! Lets keep getting the word out on this awesome software!!!
And FYI - 500 Epochs really does make a better model if you have the patience. The model that comes from a 100 or 500 or 1,000 Epoch training session will have the exact same CPU usage when you are using them so the only thing you are losing is time while you wait for the Epochs to finish. Its worth it, IMHO!
Your model has more gain because the training file was louder than your guitar. Its a tough thing to balance them correctly.
Thank you Jason! Great information, I'm really in the beginning of messing around with NAM. But I love the idea and also the diy approach! Sounds great but I have to get better making the captures 👍
Indeed, spread the word 🤘
//Emil
Also Jason, thanks I will have a look and subscribe to your channel. Alot of good information!
Sounds almost real to a usable level at least the intro
Thanks a million for this clear tutorial dude, just captured my Engl fireball 25, not bad for a 1st attempt.
You're welcome! Cool, it's addictive!
@@Rohbemusic I noticed mine has a very noticeable DI mixed in with the amp sound. That happen to you?
No never experienced. Are you monitoring the di maybe?
@@Rohbemusic whilst capturing? No.
I used my Engls effects send out instead on line out and it's worked! So awesome thanks again!
Thanks, helped a lot getting that done. Just doing that with USB audio via my Kemper ....... it´s just converting in the moment. But with Kemper and USB audio reamping this seems to be pretty simple.
Crazy❤
Thank you so much for this video, it was extremely helpful
You're welcome 👍 thanks!
Will try that out. Unfortunately, opning NAM in Cubase had it just crash. I will keep at it, though. I think this could be a really good one.
Give it a try! Sorry to hear that man. NAM can be quite cpu hungry 👍
Wait, I will go to buy some amps so I could capture them later.
Hahahaha one thousand reasons to buy gears
Can you share the sound chain? I understand it's AT CM8201 transformer and a Two Notes loadbox. If you can make a video about that it could be interesting i guess the sound interface is also important for the capture and maybe DI Box???
Good clear demo, thanks
Thanks man! 👍
great tutorial - thanks!
Thanks 👍
I get a message: input provided isn't silent for at least 19200 samples before the starting index. responses to this non-silent input may leak into the dataset!
Please help
Do you need a special hardware? Can it be done using a audio interface only?
Hi Emil, I just tested your profiles and I overall liked the results. You have a lot of noise somewhere in the chain though, and I suspect also a little too much gain. Not sure if this is because of the device you're using to send the signal to the amp or something else, but your model ended up much noisier than most other high gain profiles I've tried. Would love to try some updated profiles if you manage to fix this
Hey! Yes you're absolutley right! They were early profiles. Try theese out in my new video of the quad preamp 👍
ruclips.net/video/U4nVWhLo8Cg/видео.html
With real amps or amp sims, you can boost the preamp or even the pwer amp by placing some booster ou overdrive pedal (set as a clean booster) before the amp. I guess that doesn't work with a nam profile... So creating an audio chain in a VST host (DAW, or another soft such as Element or Plogue Bidule) with a booster plugin before a NAM profile won't boost the amp profile as it would do if we were using a real amp or an amp sim ?
Are you bypassing the speaker. How are you making the amp speaker IR?
Cool video. Say I want to capture some profiles of my OCD pedal, should I use a mono line-out from my DAW into the effectspedal, using a device like the CP8201 inbetween? Any suggestion on how to set the correct outputlevel on the interface going into the pedal?
That cp8201 didnt work out quite well. In the next video i replace it with a better solution. But you can try without it. You want to lower the signal to the pedal with a passive volume control (analogue). I say its a bit of trial and error, I got it right the 2nd time. If you can messure the signal after the pedal you want to hit the same levels as with a guitar plugged in to it 👍
Do you have a link the the cable from your mark IV?? Are you using the captor for a load box?
Yes captor loadbox, also a fryette powerload is used sometimes 👍
Anybody make a profile of the chug pedal?
Or the metalzone through the effects loop on a tube amp?
Do you use the Torpedo Captor to make your profiles? Or can you? I want to get one so I can record my amp with DynIR cabs, but also to make NAM profiles with it.
Yes the captor is great for studio recording and making captures. For captures however you need a reampbox also 👍
Thanks! The Audio Technica jack-thingy, what is the name of the model. please? And does it work exactly like a Palmer DACCAPO or Radial Engineering Pro re-amping box?
I haven't got a verdict on the audio technica yet, still some testing to do. So best to hold off on that. A dedicated reamping box would be safer. In theory it should do the same thing!
It is called cp8201 👍
But like I said, not sure yet if its the best solution. It is used to connect low impedence to high. Will do some tests and get back 👍
@@Rohbemusic Thanks, just never seen one like that before, only the usual boxy ones. 🙂 I guess one pro with the boxes is, that they usually have a dedicated level knob. How it would differ from adjusting the output on your interface, I do not know. 🙂 Ground lift option too, of course.
Its always better to control volume outside the computer otherwise you lower it digitally and May lower resolution. Lifting the ground or isolation is what the reamp box does 👍
what if I play records instead? I want to capture john frusciante's tone... if I play intro's of 'under the bridge' 'snow hey oh' 'soul to squeeze' 'scar tissue' 'can't stop' , will I get that fru tone?
You can only capture amps but there is software to get close to tones on an album. I would ask the same question on the NAM Facebook group istead 👍
@@Rohbemusic I see I see... I chose those examples by the way because the guitar intros in them are isolated (meaning no other instruments are playing in the mix). Thanks for the reply, cheers
Can you explain why to re-render the original v1 file? Thanks for your Video!
Yes, you want to do that so you get the two tracks as close as possible. A rendered track can change ever so slightly. 👍
@@Rohbemusic ok! Thanks for that info!
Thank you for the detailed instructions! I tried searching through your videos looking for the answer to this, but what is the xlr to 6.35 mm transformer adapter you're using? I would love to pick one up. Cheers!
You got it! Thanks for watching! Dont bother on that audio technica thing, I ditched it. Wasnt any good for the purpose. Get a real reamp box or build one like I did 👍
@@Rohbemusic Oh, Okay - it ws just something I'd never seen before so it got my interest haha I'll look for your DIY video! :)
@@lostinlymbo13 Yeah its used the other way around, was more of an experiment. My video after this I think I mention the reamp box 👍
Sound's really good
Is there anywhere where people can share their IRs or would you share the IR ?
Thanks! Yes there's a group on Facebook called Neural Amp Modeler (NAM) Discussion where I'll be posting in the future. I will add some links in the discription for theese profiles also 👍
I've seen models with a score of 0.001 how the hell do they get so close?
Is the shredding necessary?
No but sometimes more is more.
Can you capture cab IRs as well?
Yes with the rig 👍 Not by it self.
@@Rohbemusic What about fx? Can you capture pedals? This is pretty crazy man.
@@jagmetal Yes absolutley! Not time based fx like reverb or delays but overdrives, distortion, compressors etc 👍
@@jagmetal Even studio gear like complete signal chains, preamps, compressors, tape decks. So sky's the limit 👍
@@Rohbemusic So if you capture your amp and cab at the same time. No external cab IR is required right?
Nice! Can I get your capture?
Absolutley, I'll update the description with some links shortly 👍
@@Rohbemusic do you think you could run it at 1000epoch to see if that’s even better and lower ESR? Pretty sure the difference would be significant :)
But the AI nows nothing on how the controls work on a particular amp model. The controls on the model will work completely different from the real amp
Offcorse! You get a snapshot, the eq is more there to correct or balance the final result 👍
come on man, what reply is this?
The reply is fine and accurate. If you want something that replicates the controls of the amp, use a modeller. If you want something that replicates a single tone, use a profiler.
And the tone of both can be tweaked with an EQ in your DAW anyway.
How can I use other peoples profiles?
Just download the file and load it into the plugin 👍