CUSTOMER STATES I CANT FIT ANY SOCKET TO REMOVE MY LUGNUTS! HOW TO REMOVE BULGED LUGNUTS
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Today we go over and I show you how to remove a bulged and damaged lug nut n a Chevy Traverse.
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Off of a soda can i made six strips 3/8 wide (+ - ) and about 1.1/2" long and with help of some grease to hold them against lug nut you can get a nice and snug fit with a 23mm socket , works very well
Good tip Jose!!! I've never tried that myself but that would work in a jam.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic It worked really well lol i had to put my neurons to work hard 😂
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@@carsheaven Ya u just gotta put your imagination to work and it did lol
Thanks for showing what you used on the lug nuts. I didn’t know those existed. I have had to take lug nuts like those off before and just used the next sized socket. These are so much better! I learned something today!
Glad to help, these make it much easier and less chance of rounding out the lug nut for removal.
@Jim Hornyak did you try a 7/8 socket? It's the same size as 22.5mm.
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I just grab a small hammer and make the 22 fit. Gentle taps. Unless it's a Ford. Then use the bfh.
You can but sometimes it doesn't work that way plush its a bear to get the lug nut off the socket.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic very true. I usually use an air hammer with a flat blade in short bursts. Right between the socket and the lug nut where it flares out. Seems to separate them the quickest.
@@jordancouchman8429 I've done that and the old school way of beating the socket with a hammer.
Very helpful. Mopar vehicles, Jeeps, Rams, even FIAT, Alfa Romeos are notorious with two piece lug nuts when the caps swell up. Mainly whenever they ask for tire rotation with oil changes. They heart up overtime.
Great point!
Great content. People still say only Ford lug nuts swell. I work at a Ford dealer and handle a lot of used cars and other makes in the service bays. I’ve had GM’s where I needed a 22, 22.5, and 23mm to remove the lugs, and then Mopar’s that I needed the 19, 19.5, and 20mm I use on a lot of really crusty old Ford’s.
Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I have seen that people assume this only affects one major brand but it’s an industry thing it’s not just one manufacturer it’s widespread across several.
I have another possibility why this is an issue. I read somewhere (and of course I cannot remember where) that these type of lug nuts should not be used with an impact. But as we all know, some mechanics know better than the manual which was written by the same individual(s) that designed the "product."
I've read that as well! I do know almost every mechanic will use a power tool on them because of the way were paid based off productivity the quicker we can do a job the more we earn so that's why I have these sockets to do the job quick.
I made the mistake of using an impact gun on my OEM Camaro lug nuts, which also have caps on them. I track the car and take the wheels on and off fairly frequently to check brake wear. I quickly noticed it was getting harder and harder to get the socket on and off the nuts and upon examining the nuts I could see that the caps were being deformed from the impacts. Since then I always break the lugs nuts loose by hand first, and no more issues.
It's entirely due to cheap manufacturing and poor engineering. stamping a piece of shit mm thin cosmetic cap ontop of the lug was flat out stupid, but certainly cheaper than a solid metal lugnut.
A mechanic for 50 years I have seen this many times. I disagree that it is a rust issue, It is caused by distortion of the outer cap from removal and reinstallation and, as stated below, the impact wrench is a major contributor. Unlike below, it is not an issue of "mechanics know better" but time! We (and the shop) get paid flat rate (a set dollar per job) no matter how long it takes. and I have been ordered to do it fast; not Correct. The time is determined by a FAST guy doing one job on a brand new vehicle with every tool set up to go in the fastest time possible doing it 6 times in a row, and the fastest time is the flat rate time. Mechanics who do not PERFORM are let go. The dealership(s) I worked for under went a revision in which all flat rate times were reduced by 35% All 3 hr flat rate jobs became a 2 hr paid job at a stroke of a pen to boost corporate profits. This results in 5 minute check nothing oil changes and parking lot tuneups, where nothing is done!
Yes with labor times getting lower and lower mechanics are always going to race against the clock and try and beat the time therefore they will rush and issues like this happen,
Whether it's rust, corrosion, impact tools, poor fitting sockets etc. etc. - does it really matter, the end result is the same. The outer cap (typically thin-wall stainless) swells from some cause and a socket no longer fits. Or if a socket can be fit onto the cap, it just spins on the inner steel nut. This was such a huge problem with Ford, there was a class action lawsuit against Ford in 2017 claiming that the swollen and delaminated lug nuts couldn’t be safely driven. The court overseeing the case dismissed it noting that plaintiffs had failed to provide sufficient facts or legally viable claims.
I just replace the stock lug-nuts with SOLID nuts.
I agree!!! Some times in a shop setting you cant get the solid one piece ones delivered fast enough, plus some people will not pay for new lug nuts so we have no choice but to we use this method.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic Once it's off, cut it in half with a torch and don't give them a choice.
@@dchawk81 They usually replace them and buy them, I bulk stock these and get them at a good price that it makes it affordable.
I always just hammer my socket on and get the Lug nut halfway off before wiggling my socket off with the weight of my impact. sometimes the hammering and impacting squeezes the lug nut back into shape but usually I order new lug nuts anyway.
I used to do that, the use of this tool just makes it a little bit easier and faster.
Do road side have not seen the .5 size socket. Will hammer on a socket but have had them break at the centre. Have had most problems with dodge lugs. A few that I couldn’t get off with lug nut removal tool would just strip the lug. Stocked up on lugs from the wreck over twenty gone in little over a month. Will look for the .5 tool. Don’t have time to mess around when -20 to -40. Want to be done in 5 min or less.
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The .5 makes it easy i got my kit from amazon look up cta tools they make the kit comes with half sizes for 19-22mm I believe.
I just use a 7/8th since it's 22.23mm
That works as well! Great info!
Truck drivers like to put these on the lugnuts of their truck. For semi's there is a tool that can be purchased to remove these, but the company I worked for considered these a "maintenance violation".
I bet the companies don't like them it probably makes it difficult for them to service the trucks.
These aren't what we put on our trucks. We put threaded or push on covers that come off by hand and are not part of the lug nut itself and never were. The push ons grip the side wall of the lug nut and the threaded ones screw onto the stud threads sticking out beyond the lug nut.
It's an extra step, sure, but nothing like these two piece lug nuts that were manufactured together.
Great video i have had this issue in the past.
I just cut the cap off. Its just there for aesthetics. Underneath is usually a 19 or 21.
Sometimes they come off with pliers if you can grab and pull the cap but, I can't damage them in the shop I have to take them off and replace them or put them back nicely without damage or the customer wouldn't be happy with me.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic That's probably not wise because a lug nut is a safety part and you're knowingly reinstalling a faulty one.
I'd destroy the damned things and make them impossible to reinstall.
Ebay. Idid that to my 15 Escape then put different nuts on.
I haven't experienced this yet, but won't a 7/8 work? I believe it's a little bigger than a 22mm.
In some cases 7/8 works but not in every situation that .5 in the 22.5 socket makes a big difference, I believe a 7/8 is about .2 bigger than a 22mm if not wrong.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic Correct. If caught early, it could work, but if they've been on a while, may be too big for the 7/8" to work. If you happened to have a 57/64" socket, and yes, I'm being silly here, that would work best in a standard size.
@@joefair3391 If they have been on there that long forget any socket just grab the torch and done!!! lol
Change them all out to mcgards lugnuts. Problem solved 😌
Usually metric and SAE have in between sizes for each other so I just go to the other kit rather than size up.
Good tip!!! That works well in situations.
Great info on the tools!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the info
Any time! Glad you like the video.
Those cheap two-piece lug nuts are a curse on the world! Up here in the salt belt, they are unusable after the first winter. Just buy a set of solid nuts and be done with it. I suffered with the Ford versions for years, but now I scrap them as soon as I acquire a new or used car.
I agree!
great fix
Thanks Doug! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Nice. Never saw that before.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks, I learned something today.
Glad to hear it!
Try a 7/8 next time that will probably work too.
My durango had these lug nuts, its annoying so i swapped em out got acorn nuts
Best way to do it before they have an issue like this.
If there mildly bulged, i use a flat grinder on them ,works 90 percent of the time to take them back to original speck ,an impact is never to be used on this type of nut ,there hollow and will only take so much torque before they break ,A buddy bought nice after market nuts for his F150, and impacted them on the 1st time the rims came off for a break job 4 of the nuts broke off ,at the bottom of the hollow ,just a stupid design .
Good tip!
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The key is to hammer the socket on. once it's off lay socket on concrete and hammer socket and it will pop out.
That was my preferred method until I bought this kit, I've broken sockets that way and it would take longer using that method but it works!
*I bought some new exhaust manifold studs, and the nuts are 10mm, no socket that size fits. I thought I needed a Japanese tool or something. Ended up using a Gator socket*
Gator sockets come in handy they just aren't very heavy duty but I have one in my tool box too!
Are you able to help me? I cannot find the correct size key for the security lug nut for my chevy 1999 Chevy S10. I have bought a few based on the vehicle specs and none fits. Do you think this 22.5 will work before I purchase it? Thanks
If you’re removing a wheel lock key, they make other specialty bits that remove those these are only for lug nuts. If you just have a round security lock, those will typically not come off with these.
These lug nuts are junk. What I do is use a hammer and drive it on. Then when the POS cap comes off I get new lug nuts and throw these away.
Good method it works!
I had a friend call me in a panic, "the lug nuts are just breaking into pieces! Help!"
He was trying to remove the fake lug nuts on the plastic wheel cover. Yeah he wasn't bright.
I've had lube techs at the dealership that have done that before!
This is a classic case of over thinking a problem. Or maybe just trying to sell you something else you don't need! I am sure you have a 7/8" or 15/16" socket in your box somewhere.
I do this professionally and I’m showing a tool that I use that requires no effort at all to an existing problem that makes a job easier. A standard socket will work in some cases but it is not equivalent to a half size like these sockets provide.
Lugnut is still in place. Why not show how it works?
I was making this video before I changed the lug nuts out on the vehicle and when I did the repair I didn't have time to record the repair the shop was really busy.
Excellent
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed.
Design so shitty someone had to make a custom socket to fix their fuckup
What's wrong with shitty plastic caps like VW/Audi used to use?!?
There's no way its cheaper to make these catastrophes than a un-chromed nut and separate plastic cap
I prefer the VW/Audi ones compared to these, I've never had issues with those.
I hate those lugnuts. Total junk. Instead of making a proper polished nut they cover up cheap nuts with chrome covers.
its quantity of quality now, they produce cheaper parts for profit sadly!
7/8in socket is the same size as 22.5mm.
7/8 works I have used it in the past but it doesn't work all the time, these .5 sockets have a special design and chamfer that helps in the ease of removal.
7/8" is only 22.225 mm, or .275 less than the 22.5. Often still too small on these swollen nuts and the nut might get stuck in the socket which is super annoying. It's less than a 1/64" difference but it can matter a lot.
@@johnny0454 I guess my 7/8 socket must be special? Or is it the fact it is chrome with a thin wall? The black impact sockets are slighty smaller on the inside.
@@johnny0454 Good clarification!
They don't make a 23mm.
Most automotive toolmakers do have a 23mm (snap-on, matco, ect..) they don't generally come in sets and are a separate add on.
Just beat the socket on there it’s only a Chevy
You can do that but its such a pain to get the lug nut off the socket afterwords.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic beat the socket it’s not hard
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic Oil the inside of the socket before you beat it on, then smack the top, bottom, and both sides of the socket before you even try to loosen the lug nut. This will usually straighten them out enough that you can slide the socket on and off easily. Go all the way around and do every lug nut that the proper size socket won't fit. THEN you can take em off quick and easy and throw em in the scrap metal pile. Replace them, their important, they hold the wheels on ! I have removed hundreds, if not thousands of em this way.
@@MFGus-fb6up Great tip!!!
Or get a 23mm socket
23mm was too big for this one. 23mm doesn’t work every time.
those two piece dorman lug nuts are crap , the package say dont use air impact wrench. Im sick and tired of this junk made in China then gets re packaged as made in USA
I have encountered the same thing with the Dorman ones, I have found some solid one piece ones I believe the brand is called White Knight I've purchased them from Auto Zone if you have one where ever you live. They are also on amazon they are a one piece cast they work wonderfully I highly recommend them, hope that helps you Tom.
@tom ashton Caped two piece lug nuts have been around for over 50 years. It's not a china thing.
If the lug nuts are engineered like this, imagine how the rest of the car is made. Chevy is junk.
This isn’t just a Chevy problem a lot of manufactures use this style of lug nuts
That’s a fact , let’s just pay a lot of money for nothing but a pain in the ass problem
People are satisfied with buying some thing that’s worth half of what they paid for and is nothing more than an over educated piece of junk
People are satisfied with paying twice of what it’s worth when it’s nothing more than a over educated piece of junk
Things aren’t made the same way they used to be made including cars and trucks!
Its called a 22mm with a hammer
Buy new lugs.
That method works this is more easier with the 22.5 socket.