I think the designers should have spent more time on the Katana re-designing the airbox to get a bigger fuel capacity ,this model wouldn't be needed! I like the new lights!
I didn't even think about this but you are right. If they would have done this I likely would have spent the extra on the Katana. I love the design but the fuel capacity is WAY to low. I just can't deal with a dirtbike sized gas tank on a liter bike.
Suzuki will absolutely have to redesign the Katana to give it a bigger tank once they put this Euro 5 engine in it imminently. From the old to new engine, Suzuki state that mpg drops from 53 to 46 meaning in the real world the Katana has a max fuel range of up to 130 miles currently if you do typicall varied riding but maybe 100 if you thrashed it. With the new one that could equate to 80-100 miles maybe which would be absolutely ridiculous. I still reckon Suzuki will only go to about 14 litres meaning it will essentially have the same range as the current one. It will also probably gain weight & be approaching 220kg wet which is getting a bit porky too.
@@williamrae9954 Yes not getting the new colours was a bit disappointing but they'll have to do something with it as I don't think they'll sell many if the fuel consumption gets even worse.
I think the problem is that people are comparing it with the other above-litre super nakeds. If we compare it with bikes on the same price range, which are essentially 750-900 cc nakeds, it's an excellent, value for money deal! Good job Suzuki.
It's been a while since Suzuki invented anything, but owners don't care. They want a solid bike that does everything well (enough) without costing a fortune, and I am pretty sure that's what they will get with this one.
Agree - Suzuki has definitely gone after the strapped-for-cash market. If price is not your biggest concern they have nothing to offer you: they're heavier than the competition, they have outdated electronics, they are underpowered, their styling is questionable at best... I think it's a shame, to be honest. 20 years ago I would've never guessed the mighty Suzuki brand would one day be going down this route.
I cannot say anything but praise Suzuki for a well Job done. Lots of added Electronics for 2021 Model. I owned 2020 GSX-S1000ZA (Oort Gray), I have nothing to Complain, on 2020 Model, they Fixed the Snatchiness of Throttle Response, it was not Jerky anymore. and 2021 has Ride-By-Wire Electronic Throttle System so the Rider can Enjoy more in operating the Throttle. VisorDown is the Best, when it comes to Reviewing Motorcycles, has Clearer and More Detailed than anyone. Speaking All of the Bikes.
I didn't think this updated model would grow on me.. but it is! Nice review in this video. Also some great camera work. I'm feeling a test ride is imminent when the local dealer takes delivery.
Had mine a year now after seeing all reviews and buying on. Ride several bikes all a 1000 cc. Took this one to Spain, can't really fault it at all. Done lot of mountain roads and twisty main roads .Took this over my gs1250 thinking 🤔, have I done right thing ,yes was great,reliable to. Just have to travel light as not a lot of room for gear. 20tlr rear kriega and a 15 ltr backpack. Great review Toad. Thanks.
Suzuki and Kawasaki, (where's Yamaha and Honda?) are doing what only the Japanese seem to be able to do: Low maintenance, affordable, unbreakable, very fast, competent motorcycles that don't need fanfare. They've always done this and kept classy doing it. (Well, there were a few crazy machines, but I blame that on the American market. We got a few in Canada.) Z1000 rider in BC, and I'll wear out before it does. Cheers.
Good review. I like the look except the dash could have been moved back giving the bike a cleaner looking side profile, like KTM did with the Super Duke R.
Finnally Suzuki is doing something. good. Only small negative is a noon TFT screen. Other equipment is great. First time in a long time Visordown dont have a lot of negatives to say about Suzuki bike 👍
Nice review. I like it, but not in the blue, looks much better in the other colours. The best thing about this bike is the price & that shouldn't be overlooked as it costs 2/3rds or 1/2 the price of the top super nakeds & on the road I'll wager it's not half the bike. It's not special as such but it's a great value, bulletproof, fun bike.
I honestly like the styling on the 2016-2020 better. I’ve had mine for going on 4 years, and it’s been a really fine motorcycle. Next year I’m going to install a full aftermarket exhaust, do some brake stuff, add a quick shifter and a dynotune/ECU flash. I think she’ll be perfect at that point!
Toad, would you review the Z1000r please?. It seems to be the super naked the world forgot. They are possibly the cheapest 1000cc currently. I would be interested to know how it does against the gsx s or even the z900. I opted for the cheaper z900 but would be interested in your take on the Z1000 and where it sits in today's world.. thanks
Don't really get the hate for the lights, think it looks sharp. LED lights don't need a huge reflector housing for a halogen bulb! Quality review, what was your final time on the hillclimb?
Nice review Toad, Thanks. Where I live the MT09SP, Z900, Street Triple R and the new GSX S1000 all cost the same, give or take a few hundred pounds. Which one would you prefer to have in your garage??
I have the new 750, its a great laugh, 114bhp. Really light, bmx steering, 180 rear section on S21s, K5 engine. Knock it all you want, but its super street fast, one down one up on the cogs. Its so much fun. I sold my gen one busa for this......yes busa is legend, but red a buss in secon and its jail or dead, read a gsx in second and you're deaf and grinning
Not a head Turner like a Monster or a street triple, but a very handsome, well- proportioned bike. Although most litre naked bikes are ahead of it when it comes to tech, but for the price, it's a brilliant bike.
Would you trade your sv650 for one or are you still happy with your choice of the SV650? I am thinking about buying a SV650 and this bike also intrigued me!
So i took this out for a test ride the other day. Did you notice the jerky throttle or was this perhaps just my model? I was on a long straight and decided to open it up while riding at normal speed and it was a very noticeable time delay from my cruising speed to monster speed. which caused a jerk motion. Did you experience this? any idea why it does this?
Suzuki give kawaskai z1 a challenge now it have a valky looks unlike the old gsxs pug lamo headlight i might prefer gsxs 150 headlamo insted of headlight of 2018 headlight of gsxs 1000
if you go to the suzuki website, they only show a 2020 model, and a 2022 model. anyone know what's up with that? maybe the one reviewed here is actually the 2022?
The forks look like they almost have no travel with the rider weight on the bike. Look like it’s almost bottomed out. Maybe the preload needs to be adjusted.
My thoughts are it's a 2016 S1000R (which is a great bike) with Suzuki reliability, which makes it an amazing bike and a killer value. Definitely my next daily.
I have the same issue with the heavy clutch and the far away lever on my 2018 GSXS 750. Amazing bike otherwise. Just need to learn how to change a clutch lever I guess.
it looks like a monster... no way i want such a big bike.... theres no point or reason. i want a really agile bike with a nice exhaust noise and good brakes.... thats it.
So ergo's are great if you are between 5'10" and 6'?🤔 I felt very upright and wide on the bars on the old model. I am 6'2". That the handlebar is higher and closer does not sound appealing - guess I have to try it to find out. Coming from a VFR 800. Thanks for the review!
Change to offset risers and a bar of your choice if you’re a bigger guy. Same with springing suspension to your weight. Nonsense reason to critique a bike.
You say the traction control was too intrusive? Looking at the screen on the video you can see the TC kicking in loads, but what do you expect when you have it set on 5 the most intrusive setting ? Just turn it down 🤣
Love how they don't ruin the forks by putting stupid reflectors on.... Other manufacturers need to take note !.... Don't deface a piece of beautiful engineering !
Yeah it’s ugly, but so is every other modern naked bike. That engine and the price makes this a great bang for your buck. Seems like a great street bike. Toad, how’s the seat height? You mentioned you are 5’6” which is my height, but what’s your inseam?
Expensive that for a naked bike, looks like there using parts from the Katana which didn’t sell great.. maybe they have lots of parts that need to be used up, Not a big fan of this and the new headlight looks like the new my-09 Much prefer the z1000 look still looks great. the previous gsx-s1000 didn’t sell too great didn’t see many out and was always on a deal at dealerships
Suzuki has definitely gone after the strapped-for-cash market. If price is not your biggest concern they have nothing to offer you: they're heavier than the competition, they have outdated electronics, they are underpowered, their styling is questionable at best... I think it's a shame, to be honest. 20 years ago I would've never guessed the mighty Suzuki brand would one day be going down this route.
No excuse not to have a cruise control if it has a ride-by-wire throttle now. Yea, it might increase the price a bit but honestly it's a wrist-saver. And possibly a life-saver as well. IMU, who gives a shit, to be honest. Up & down quickshifter and a cruise control are pretty much the only "new" techs I'd like in a bike. Especially in a bike which is meant as a do-it-all kind of a bike.
I think the designers should have spent more time on the Katana re-designing the airbox to get a bigger fuel capacity ,this model wouldn't be needed! I like the new lights!
I didn't even think about this but you are right. If they would have done this I likely would have spent the extra on the Katana. I love the design but the fuel capacity is WAY to low. I just can't deal with a dirtbike sized gas tank on a liter bike.
Suzuki will absolutely have to redesign the Katana to give it a bigger tank once they put this Euro 5 engine in it imminently. From the old to new engine, Suzuki state that mpg drops from 53 to 46 meaning in the real world the Katana has a max fuel range of up to 130 miles currently if you do typicall varied riding but maybe 100 if you thrashed it. With the new one that could equate to 80-100 miles maybe which would be absolutely ridiculous. I still reckon Suzuki will only go to about 14 litres meaning it will essentially have the same range as the current one. It will also probably gain weight & be approaching 220kg wet which is getting a bit porky too.
@@ragerider6283 Don't think they will bother updating it,we already never got the new colours!
@@williamrae9954 Yes not getting the new colours was a bit disappointing but they'll have to do something with it as I don't think they'll sell many if the fuel consumption gets even worse.
@@ragerider6283 The Katana was not a big seller for Suzuki so maybe they won't bother with a new version.
I know a lot of people hate the front but I really like it. This is proper old school Suzuki, cheap hooligan thrills.
The front face become the best one in the segment , I love it more and more
I think the problem is that people are comparing it with the other above-litre super nakeds. If we compare it with bikes on the same price range, which are essentially 750-900 cc nakeds, it's an excellent, value for money deal! Good job Suzuki.
It's great value for money! That's why when I saw an Mt10 with 2000 miles for 10k USD I jumped on it!
@@zackphelps3052 Cheers, man!
I acutally like this headlight design. It's kinda similar to the MT-10 but IMO better executed. Reminds me of a sport car from the 80s.
It's been a while since Suzuki invented anything, but owners don't care. They want a solid bike that does everything well (enough) without costing a fortune, and I am pretty sure that's what they will get with this one.
Agree - Suzuki has definitely gone after the strapped-for-cash market. If price is not your biggest concern they have nothing to offer you: they're heavier than the competition, they have outdated electronics, they are underpowered, their styling is questionable at best... I think it's a shame, to be honest. 20 years ago I would've never guessed the mighty Suzuki brand would one day be going down this route.
Suzuki are well know for their evolution rather than revolution so I think they have nailed it for the price. 👍😎
thank u for inviting this model! from Japan.
I cannot say anything but praise Suzuki for a well Job done. Lots of added Electronics for 2021 Model. I owned 2020 GSX-S1000ZA (Oort Gray), I have nothing to Complain, on 2020 Model, they Fixed the Snatchiness of Throttle Response, it was not Jerky anymore. and 2021 has Ride-By-Wire Electronic Throttle System so the Rider can Enjoy more in operating the Throttle. VisorDown is the Best, when it comes to Reviewing Motorcycles, has Clearer and More Detailed than anyone. Speaking All of the Bikes.
Get me that test booked great video really enjoyed watching 👍
Great review of a bike I would not normally notice. Thought provoking and insightful. Cheers
I didn't think this updated model would grow on me.. but it is! Nice review in this video. Also some great camera work. I'm feeling a test ride is imminent when the local dealer takes delivery.
Great review Toad 👏 great to meet you again the other day 👍
Nice evolution of a great every day bike. My 2018 GSX-S1000F is a pleasure to ride all around and a decent sporty backroad tourer.
Had mine a year now after seeing all reviews and buying on.
Ride several bikes all a 1000 cc.
Took this one to Spain, can't really fault it at all. Done lot of mountain roads and twisty main roads .Took this over my gs1250 thinking 🤔, have I done right thing ,yes was great,reliable to.
Just have to travel light as not a lot of room for gear. 20tlr rear kriega and a 15 ltr backpack.
Great review Toad.
Thanks.
I love the looks of the headlamp from the front but not really from the side view. overall bodywork looks awesome tho
Toad, i alwayls love your great reviews - thx alot!
When you compare it to the Z900, which one would you prefer?
Your reviews are always top notch, with excellent information and great video footage! Always looking forward to your next review! A++ !
I just put a yoshimura fender eliminator kit on mine today! Made it look so much better! I love my beast!
Great sound balance! Thanks from all the remote controllers 👍
Suzuki and Kawasaki, (where's Yamaha and Honda?) are doing what only the Japanese seem to be able to do: Low maintenance, affordable, unbreakable, very fast, competent motorcycles that don't need fanfare. They've always done this and kept classy doing it. (Well, there were a few crazy machines, but I blame that on the American market. We got a few in Canada.) Z1000 rider in BC, and I'll wear out before it does. Cheers.
The Grey one has grown on me a lot
Thanks, very nice video! 1 question though: does it have cruise control?
Good review. I like the look except the dash could have been moved back giving the bike a cleaner looking side profile, like KTM did with the Super Duke R.
At that price with that lovely motor inside, the bike looks kind of decent in certain angles 😄
Excellent review, as usual from you guys.
Finnally Suzuki is doing something. good. Only small negative is a noon TFT screen. Other equipment is great. First time in a long time Visordown dont have a lot of negatives to say about Suzuki bike 👍
I cannot wait to get mine!
Nice review. I like it, but not in the blue, looks much better in the other colours. The best thing about this bike is the price & that shouldn't be overlooked as it costs 2/3rds or 1/2 the price of the top super nakeds & on the road I'll wager it's not half the bike. It's not special as such but it's a great value, bulletproof, fun bike.
Love what they did with this bike. Makes the F version seem more of an afterthought honestly.
I honestly like the styling on the 2016-2020 better. I’ve had mine for going on 4 years, and it’s been a really fine motorcycle. Next year I’m going to install a full aftermarket exhaust, do some brake stuff, add a quick shifter and a dynotune/ECU flash. I think she’ll be perfect at that point!
Great explanation!!
I see it more as competing with the likes of the current MT-10 and CB1000r price wise more so than those hyper naked Italian models.
Excellent review
Toad, would you review the Z1000r please?. It seems to be the super naked the world forgot. They are possibly the cheapest 1000cc currently. I would be interested to know how it does against the gsx s or even the z900. I opted for the cheaper z900 but would be interested in your take on the Z1000 and where it sits in today's world.. thanks
Don't really get the hate for the lights, think it looks sharp. LED lights don't need a huge reflector housing for a halogen bulb!
Quality review, what was your final time on the hillclimb?
Nice review Toad, Thanks. Where I live the MT09SP, Z900, Street Triple R and the new GSX S1000 all cost the same, give or take a few hundred pounds. Which one would you prefer to have in your garage??
I dig the look. The headlight could have been a little better… but it needed the vvt engine…..
Great review as always......👍
I have the new 750, its a great laugh, 114bhp. Really light, bmx steering, 180 rear section on S21s, K5 engine. Knock it all you want, but its super street fast, one down one up on the cogs. Its so much fun. I sold my gen one busa for this......yes busa is legend, but red a buss in secon and its jail or dead, read a gsx in second and you're deaf and grinning
my next bike.. getting the black one this december...
Profile looks great. But, Jesus, that is a mug that only a mother could love...
Is that the bike or Toad you’re talking about?
Any idea if they are adding the engine and electronic changes to the f version too?
Toad, was the suspension dialed in specifically for you? Or was it all stock settings?
Not a head Turner like a Monster or a street triple, but a very handsome, well- proportioned bike. Although most litre naked bikes are ahead of it when it comes to tech, but for the price, it's a brilliant bike.
I guess I don't see those bikes as avatars of super design. This is a very compact good looking machine.
Orange paint job it's a KTM !
Inline 4 ktm
Toad! You have ridden the new MT-09 SP, as a one-bike-to-do-it-all, how would you compare the two?
Great Review as always from Toad@ Visor down .
Thank you!
Please review the Husqvarna svartpilen 401
Would you trade your sv650 for one or are you still happy with your choice of the SV650? I am thinking about buying a SV650 and this bike also intrigued me!
The face only a mother could love...
So i took this out for a test ride the other day. Did you notice the jerky throttle or was this perhaps just my model? I was on a long straight and decided to open it up while riding at normal speed and it was a very noticeable time delay from my cruising speed to monster speed. which caused a jerk motion.
Did you experience this? any idea why it does this?
Suzuki give kawaskai z1 a challenge now it have a valky looks unlike the old gsxs pug lamo headlight i might prefer gsxs 150 headlamo insted of headlight of 2018 headlight of gsxs 1000
I believe that next GSX-S1000F will be the best looking bike in this class. If they add luggage holders like in Kawasaki Z1000SX it will be perfect :D
if you go to the suzuki website, they only show a 2020 model, and a 2022 model. anyone know what's up with that? maybe the one reviewed here is actually the 2022?
The forks look like they almost have no travel with the rider weight on the bike. Look like it’s almost bottomed out. Maybe the preload needs to be adjusted.
This for £11k seems like bargain compared to BMW s1000R in sport trim...
My thoughts are it's a 2016 S1000R (which is a great bike) with Suzuki reliability, which makes it an amazing bike and a killer value. Definitely my next daily.
I have the same issue with the heavy clutch and the far away lever on my 2018 GSXS 750. Amazing bike otherwise. Just need to learn how to change a clutch lever I guess.
Get adjustable shorty levers. They're cheap and easily changeable. I changed them with zero experience. I can't stand stock levers.
@6:21 Those are not Roadsmart tires, those are the new Roadsport 2 tires.
The big question is; is this a much more powerful alternative to an MT09 or a much more affordable alternative to a Speed Triple?
It has more power that the MT09 but the Yamaha would be more exciting to ride on the road.
Why not compare this too MT 10
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it looks like a monster... no way i want such a big bike.... theres no point or reason. i want a really agile bike with a nice exhaust noise and good brakes.... thats it.
Gravy on everything?
“Just like Heaven”
By the Cure starts playin in my head.
This bike looks similar to Yamaha Xabre aka M-SLAZ, a 150cc street fighter made for Southeast Asian Markets in 2015.
I bought the Katana last week (love the bike). I like this one too but I don’t like the front headlight. I dunno why
I love katana.. greetings from india
A very good review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Looks like a liger from the show zoids, I like the look, makes it meme aggressive looking
So ergo's are great if you are between 5'10" and 6'?🤔
I felt very upright and wide on the bars on the old model. I am 6'2".
That the handlebar is higher and closer does not sound appealing - guess I have to try it to find out.
Coming from a VFR 800.
Thanks for the review!
Change to offset risers and a bar of your choice if you’re a bigger guy. Same with springing suspension to your weight. Nonsense reason to critique a bike.
You say the traction control was too intrusive? Looking at the screen on the video you can see the TC kicking in loads, but what do you expect when you have it set on 5 the most intrusive setting ? Just turn it down 🤣
Love how they don't ruin the forks by putting stupid reflectors on.... Other manufacturers need to take note !.... Don't deface a piece of beautiful engineering !
waiting for kind of GT version of this bike would be lovely
How good does it look!
Headlight looks same as custom headlight that been around long time ini my country
Gorgeous
For a grand more you can get a Triumph Street Triple RS with fantastic Olin suspension and MUCH better brakes and clutch.
Yeah it’s ugly, but so is every other modern naked bike. That engine and the price makes this a great bang for your buck. Seems like a great street bike.
Toad, how’s the seat height? You mentioned you are 5’6” which is my height, but what’s your inseam?
Expensive that for a naked bike, looks like there using parts from the Katana which didn’t sell great.. maybe they have lots of parts that need to be used up,
Not a big fan of this and the new headlight looks like the new my-09
Much prefer the z1000 look still looks great. the previous gsx-s1000 didn’t sell too great didn’t see many out and was always on a deal at dealerships
not even a tft... should have built one from the ground up and not a revamp from the old model with just few upgrades and some electronics thrown in..
I hope i can get that bike someday ❤🥺
New katana with large tank pls sizuka!!
Five traction control settings
Serious question, can a guy really feel the difference between setting 3 and setting 4?
I doubt it
Sounds good for a stock pipe.
Comfort,seat, what happened to that?
A2 compliant gsx-s950 is coming, same engine but retuned and at an even lower price. The competition may as well go home now
It's so Sharp in it's design that Suzuki can almost call it the Katana GSX-S1000 or something
I am a Suzuki fan but constantly disappointed by the limited color choices sent to the United States!
Is there a bad new bike out there?
Nice boots: Sidi Couriers? The litre inline four I'd buy. Has it more down grunt than the CB1000R?
Excellent review.
Thank you!
A friend has both, previous gsxs1000 and latest cb1000r, gsxs1000 has more grunt....
@@trailrider1980 And the new one has a bit more. Thanks for replying.
Wish we had a red option
*that black is to own*
Luv it I want one !! : D
price
Why is this bike so much heavier than the K5-K6 GSXR
Paint it orange and you have an in line 4 KTM.
Suzuki has definitely gone after the strapped-for-cash market. If price is not your biggest concern they have nothing to offer you: they're heavier than the competition, they have outdated electronics, they are underpowered, their styling is questionable at best... I think it's a shame, to be honest. 20 years ago I would've never guessed the mighty Suzuki brand would one day be going down this route.
// _Is the better MONSTER?_
Disappointed Suzuki have followed Yamaha and Kawasaki with the silly headlight treatment. Let’s hope the faired version is better.
No excuse not to have a cruise control if it has a ride-by-wire throttle now. Yea, it might increase the price a bit but honestly it's a wrist-saver. And possibly a life-saver as well.
IMU, who gives a shit, to be honest. Up & down quickshifter and a cruise control are pretty much the only "new" techs I'd like in a bike. Especially in a bike which is meant as a do-it-all kind of a bike.
When 'the dragon' beat 'the beast'.
Suzuki remains consistent when it comes to designing ugly bikes, but now Yamaha and Kawasaki have joined the race.
Competing with the Z1000? They stopped making the Z1000 in 2016, so that should be easy.
No radial master cylinder???
i think he made a mistake.propably is a Nissin 19mm radial MC from the past years