People being shocked Ai is like this is the same people being shocked that the barrista at Starbucks doesn't actually wish the angry Karen to "have a nice day"
Except the only reason why they were all shocked because its not in the script. Ruby did it all her own. The part where an object is thrown at the door is not supposed to be part of the scene. It was smart-ish to not end the scene because it helps give a better understanding whats going on in Ai’s mind. Ruby did it right, but I am concerned on the price just to succeed since Ruby is emotionally hurt, alot. Even Aqua looks shocked by this.
I bet they're the same people that unsolicitedly tell you, "you'd look prettier if you smiled" or they genuinely think the random girl they approached is giggling coz she thinks they're funny whilst secretly she's thinking "please fuck off for Christ's sake" It's like that anime Lucky Star when the camera's turn off, you see what she really thinks about her fans.
@@newshortsk ah yeah I forget at what age Ai joined B-Komachi. If she joined at ~12 and Nino immediately developed that resentment, then yeah 22 years tops.
I liked that this chapter really explores the nuance of relationships like friendship, jealousy, admiration and rivalry. We can definitely see all of this feeling on Kanaruby & AiNino relationship dynamic. I'm also like how Aka humanised Nino in this chapter & not making her just like typical a black&white villain character. Instead we also can empathizes with Nino feelings. And same like Ai, Nino also just another victim from the toxic nature of entertainment industry.
@@414Anime Yeah totally agree about the connexion with Nino's character getting closer. As I am a big fan, let's create the next chapter with AI and share it with fans till next chapter comes (spoil) : ruclips.net/video/5_N9G9bbzZY/видео.html
Not to mention I hope Nino is just being manipulated due to her guilt rather than being part of Ai's death. Hikaru is the kind who would take advantage of people due to his implied personal experience.
Though, Kana’s intention was to push Ruby into succeeding. Knowing how the direction of the movie is meant to go, Ruby decided to let her true feeling out so Ruby can do better. This also risks Ruby to hate her, which Kana is willing to take that sacrifice.
The thing with method acting is separating the character from your real life self because if you can't do that, then the "character" seeps into your life and you become it. It becomes very difficult to undone the damage and for Kana and Ruby that's what's happening. Ruby is becoming an mirror image of Ai and Kana goes full bore into being Nino. Sadly just more suffering from Kana and we'll see in two weeks how broken Ruby is.
Kana is smart person you can exactly notice this from her perfect planning to help Ruby so l don't think she will hurt Ruby like Aqua said she isn't child anymore in the other hand Ruby is mature girl l know she had sad panels these recent chapters but we shouldn't expect happy things always special in a manga like Oshi no ko and Ruby was the person who wanted to understand Ai and it would be childish if Ruby was thinking Ai was perfect idol and yeah everything was good and she hadn't any problems but Akasa perfectly reflected Ai's true feelings by using Kana and Ruby friendship
Ruby has been miserable for a while. Kana just gave her an edge to be able to get into the character, since she knows this movie means a lot to a lot of people, and Ruby is inexperienced in acting. what she did was necessary. no other method would have been enough to bring those emotions and such realistic 'acting' out of Ruby. I'm sure they'll patch things up, or at least try. you see, Kana isn't the most intelligent character. but she is very experienced in the entertainment industry, and that is very evident.
Ai hates everyone. Good. Cause that means she's gonna _love_ that sociopath Hikaru. So, yet again, we take one more step to the inevitability of the Yosuga no Ruby route.
This is one thing I find it really odd if you compare past and present (recent manga). Aqua mentioned to Ruby that she would be better as an actress, now Ruby is one. Aqua, during the scene when he revealed who he really is, tried to cheer Ruby saying she isnt Ai, and she shouldnt followed the same path as her. Yet, people seemed to attempt to make Ruby the next “Ai” by hurting her emotionally enough so she can act like Ai. This is something I realize this wouldnt be what Aqua wanted, and didnt realize this was their plan. Including Kana, who fully intended to hurt Ruby so she can bring out Ai’s personality.
This really humanized Ai Hoshino and even after her initial passing from the prologue of the manga is just portrayed so well by the current characters to understand her better!!! Our shining idol before the twins are amazing
I just love the way kana acts in this chapter especially the part of when kana’s behind herself playing as Nino that was probably my favourite part I can’t wait to see everything that goes down!❤
This chapter made me feel something I can relate to kana and Nino but I also understand how hard it must be to sit through all that misunderstanding makes me think of my personal friendships
No, this new side of Ruby/Ai is understandable. We tough through some major things in our life on the outside, but we can still get hurt no matter how much we harden our hearts. But behind closed doors, we eventually explode and let out our ugly yet true emotions.
One has to wonder with all that mental toll, would Ai had eventually slipped into delusion in her adulthood had she survived? At one point, would she had been believing her own role not only to cope and survive but to found solace in the lies? Don't get me wrong, Ai found in her children the support she needed for herself to be emotionally firm and sound. But, maybe, what she would have dreaded the most more than telling her children that she loved them out of lies would have been presenting and showing herself to her children as the perfect, idol mother without flaws and defects for the rest of her life while burying her darkness and faults within the veil of lies.
Nah, I think she displayed suicidal tendencies with how she contacted their father, despite knowing what kind of person he is. Either she was desperate or she was hoping he would do something bad to her. I just feel like her dying scene felt like she was regretting her whole life, her suicidal thoughts as well as the mask she wore all that time. It also felt like she was regretting not expressing her hatred and covering it all up with her lies and love. The biggest mistake Ai ever made was believing that just because lies are a form of love, doesn't mean it's okay to become a pathological liar.
@@RKNancy Nah I don't think contacting the father was a result of suicidal tendencies. Atleast I don't think she would bring a k*ller in her house and put her children in danger for that reason
So, genuine question, is this actually a surprising twist for people? It seems a lot of the readership is losing their minds over this "reveal" but for me, I just thought this was something we already knew. I could have sworn a lot of this was already pretty clear from the earlier chapters. Perhaps I've just become too good at getting into Ai's mind? Ruby and Aqua would kill for that XD This arc reminds me of a quote: “History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce” --Karl Marx
I can only speak for myself cuz while I also knew that deep inside Ai did hate everyone and was just putting a fake smile this whole time,I don't think it's the"reveal"that is making the fans lose their minds so much as having it said directly with Ai's facial expressions(through ruby's acting)that makes it hit even more. At least that's how it is for me.
Nah, we tend to confuse the fiction for reality here. We thought this was an idol anime, that's why we believed in this idea for this show that lies are a form of love. When in reality, the author lied about lies here. Lies have always been a shield against the repercussions of reality, both for Ai and her fans, and for any celebrity out in the wild. But lies are a very fragile shield, since people love deciphering lies. Imagine the pressure Ai was under, trying to keep the pretense that she loved everyone, when she actually hated everyone. She even told the manager at the start she hated everyone, yet he told her that lies are a form of love. The way to neutralize hatred is by learning how to be indifferent towards certain things. But instead, she forced herself to love the things she hated, just because she was desperate for genuine relationships in her life.
@@RKNancy She lies to everyone because she loved everyone, she wears her false smile and lies as invisible armor to the point she question her love to the twins as until her literal last breath, Damn, her relationship with Hikaru simply that RADIOACTIVE a
@@inaminayo5327 no you are not weird, it was obvious. The problem is that a lot of people lack the reading ability to figure this out. I've seen people trashtalking Kana for days lately for what she started with Ruby. Like..i don't get how people thought that Ai was all sunshine and rainbows with all the info we got since the start.
at this point, even tho I haven't read the manga or seen the anime, I'm wondering if the ruby aqua ship isn't meant to be romantic, but a way for the characters to anchor themselves. a sense of morality chains that both hurt and guide them. Because at this point it feels like they've become so warped that its hard to call them human anymore.
In chp 135, I thought that Aqua is the one who doesn't understand Ai, But now, I think he will understand her. Of course I'd think that, because Aqua, though being her son, doesn't understand her like he thinks he does. Acually, to be honest, Aqua's perspective is no different than the audience who are a huge fan of Ai. Ruby, now understands Ai more, thanks to Kana, she is feeling just like Ai. A close friend, or so she thought, is now turning against her. Even though she was just supposed to act, Kana understood how Nino felt and realizes that their situation is very similar. In chapter 133, Ruby was saying how she doesn't understand Ai, so Kana felt like Ruby should know what she is doing, to help both her and ruby to understand the situation better. She understood that it's not just a movie anymore, it's their own situation, so she felt it necessary to peek at the reality. Ruby, that's why now understands Ai way better, or rather she is just displaying her own feeling, she seriously doesn't understand that Ai was feeling the way she was. Thank you, this is my own opinion of the current arc.
This recent chapter l felt so bad for Nino when l saw her first l thought she is just typical bad person who was jealous about her own friend but then l realized how a poor person she is imagine having everything special and then lose all of them for a perfect girl who is your own friend l relate to her so bad 💔
All I can say entertainment is really toxic. Seeing all this behind the scenes…ick! And if that is how Ai really thought. That would have included her kids as well. Through I think in the end of her life she realized how much she loved them.
Every chapter just makes us understand how much of a genius the director is...he put Kana in that role for a reason.. "you have got to be kidding me" is still a line from Ruby in my opinion btw
This is so relatable... Seeing your friends achieve things in life, being happy and supporting them but also the underlying jealousy you feel and you hate yourself for it, for being a bad friend. Especially when you have been working 10× harder and it comes so easily to them.😭
The whole time they were in B-komachi Ai grew more popular and became the face of the group (which Nino was initially), which made the other members jealous, and eventually led to them baring hatred towards Ai. They kept it to themselves since they were friends, but there is a limit to how long a person can do this. Add this to Ai’s indifference towards Nino revealing how she felt, it makes sense that she reached her breaking point. I personally think the actual reason Nino hates Ai is because the person she thought was her friend, had never once told her how she actually felt. She just kept lying to her which made her doubt their friendship.
The rivalries like in this chapter have seriously struck two of my favorite bands in 2023 with Slipknot and BFMV having someone get kicked out so this chapter had some good timing without ruining the pace
Kana Should not mess with Ruby anymore. We all know what happens when you mess with Ruby. Ruby is more dangerous than aqua we all remember from chapter 79 to chapter 123 Ruby basically used Kana for her own benefits, so nobody should mess with Ruby. She is more dangerous than you think. 🤩
You are maybe right, but I think B Komachi was dead with Ai's death. The fans are very likely not interested in a group where the most popular girl died. Think of a popular band and imagine one of the background members taking the spot of the lead, it wouldnt work.
It doesn't surprise me. The life she had gave her no reason to love anyone. Her children were the only good thing that happened in her life. Wherever she is, I bet she would give ANYTHING to get them back. It may be hard. But in my "Little Nightmares" fanfic, she'll return to them. They may be reincarnations, but they've become more too.
I'm just scratching my head wondering "the viewers are supposed to _like_ Ruby right?" for about every 3rd chapter after Aqua told her who he was and I'm still wondering that right now.
Fans of ai: no! 😖No way ai would hate anyone! 😣😣🥺🥺That’s not ai! 😣😣😢😢That’s not ai!😢😢 Me: I know their feeling, like really? 🙁First, I see ai actually crying in one of the newest chapters and now I learn that ai would have hated everyone? 😕I too am in disbelief because I always thought ai was all love and no hate, she was “ the idol of love” and stuff like that 😮 I know this is ruby portrayal of ai but GOOD GOD! 😱Even I wouldn’t have imagined any of this coming from the real ai even in a million years!😱 Makes me wish the anime had started season 2 already
@@brawlmaster0190 no? I thought there were people would be saying that stuff, you know, her bona fide fans Plus I only known ai as a cheerful person, until of course… her tragic death
I just discovered Your channel and after Attack On Titan anime has ended I became a fan of Oshi No Ko. Couldn't hold out from not reading this manga so I binged it and I have 3 theories here at the moment. This story may end up heartbreaking when Ruby Hoshino will be killed by her own father, but I think my theories may become true and make this story the most unique one ever!😂 1. Every one who was involved with Ai will watch this movie including Hikaru Kamiki. After the movie all the actors who have taken part in it would come to the front of the screen, starting with Aqua, but before he would enter this front he would rush on hooded figure in a first row and discover the culprit himself and ask others to call the Police. 2. After that Hikaru Kamiki would be asked by many interviewers if the accusations were true or not, but here would happen another plot twist: Hikaru would ask for exactly 5 people who should confess their truths to the whole world as well. And that would be: Aqua Hoshino, Ruby Hoshino, Fuyuko Niino, Marina Tendouji and finally child actor Tsukuyomi. It would be revealed Niino asked Hikaru to kill Ruby, but he let himself be captured by Aqua, so that "the whole truth would be revealed".😂 Then Ruby encouraged by "her father Hikaru" would start to remind her previous mother about a sick child she left behind and would reveal herself as that child- Sarina Tendouji. Of course it would be revealed that Aqua is that doctor in the meantime. But then it would be revealed that the famous actress gave birth to a child and left it immediately at the orphanage. She would be hanging out with the man who convinced her to left their child at the orphanage and he killed her in the mountains. That man who came back for his child was Hikaru Kamiki and his youngest daughter was Tsukuyomi. But it's still not the biggest plot twist I come up with! 🤣 3. After that reveal of Tsukuyomi being the youngest daughter of Hikaru Kamiki she would say the Words That Would Ring a Huge Bell: "Ruby…Aqua… I love You. Yeeeeay! That's the second time I can say it! And again it's totally not a lie!" 🤯 I'm sure that there is no greater liar than a mother who was hiding while standing in front of her children in a body of youngest actress.😂 Aren't those interesting theories of mine? Please let me know what You think?😉 Edit: I fixed some grammar and add few details.
You may also ask me why I thought about this theory at the point 3. So I'm giving my explanation in advance! 😉The concept of reincarnation was established at the begening of the story and I was trying very hard to exam it extensively, so here is what I come up with. What are my requirements to be reincarnated in Oshi no Ko? Truly love at least one, two persons in your life and have a strong goal that would bring You back as a newborn baby! What would be a goal strong enough to bring Ai back? Maybe those words: "I wonder... what kind of adults you'll grow up to be... As the two of you grow up... I want to be there to see it." 😆 Everyone can agree or disagree with me. It's just a freedom of thought after all. But to give more credebility to my hipothesis in point 3 I want to show You a very specific corelation between two lines- starting with the last one of this chapter which is: "What did I do wrong anyway?" and a 2 lines from Tsukuyomi in chapter 118 to Aqua during this initial conversation: "Why do You hate me so much? Did I do something wrong?". If this isn't a foreshadowing then even I don't know what this is! In the end I might be reading to much into this whole concept, that I absolutely enjoy.🤣
Honestly, it's not surprising but very predictable. We all know behind the facade of a successful idol, there's darkness. It's just this manga was all cheerful and smiles at first that it gave the illusion of a happy successful woman who overcame all idols.
Sorry doesn’t really have to do with the video just predictions. I don’t see us getting flashbacks from the directors perspective until after the filming ends. I could be wrong maybe we get flashbacks throughout the film showing us the side by side of Ruby performance and Ai’s actual feelings. Maybe she never actually confided in anyone, maybe she truly did despise everyone for using her and throwing all their pent up hatred towards her. We could be thrown way off track and Ai was this saint of a person who loved everyone. Very unlikely however given a lot of this story is based around the lies people tell. The lies we see in others which are perceived one way but are not what we are made to believe. Honestly Ai hating everyone would make the most sense in this situation. The only time she may have been her genuine self or a piece of who she used to be prior to the Idol industry is when she gave birth the Aqua and Ruby.
What is really frightening is how realistic this is relating with certain people within the idol industry, i will not name names for confidentially sake but let me tell you. You guys have really no idea just what sort of damage that it does to these people, especially in japan and korea. YIKES
Her lies are pretending to be a perfect idol. She has never felt other people's love neither has she loved someone genuinely, yet she always told her fans she "loved" them. It was only when she was dying that she realized that she actually loved her children. Also, her holding back all of her emotions, always pretending to be fine are other lies.
My goodness the first episode was awesome for this show I legit thought it was over and was just a movie that I had to wait for the sequel too when I finished the first episode.
We can see in ruby’s acting and many people saying “that’s not ai!ai would never!” Ai would, she is made out of lies and of course she would never show that side of her because under that idol persona she created she is just a frail and weak girl
That's the thing really Ai definitely did hate them but she also did love them to an extent as well, same with Nino she hated Ai but she still also loved her that's just how twisted their relationship was. Ai did still love the bkomachi members even after everything they did to her in 45510 she wrote in a draft message Nino saw years later that she wanted nothing more than for them to be close again, it seemed like she was at her lowest point as she seemed like she was having a breakdown while writing it
Jealousy of a fellow idol is a nonsensical concept to me. There's only so much you can do to stand out doing the same dance and the same song as everyone else on the stage. People pick favorites for everything, especially if they look similar.
Is it just me or I feel like this anime had bad writing regarding the sensei becoming aqua, because sensei supposedly had so much knowledge that he became a DOCTOR, and after reincarnation to aqua he has iq similar to ruby?? It’s like he never had a previous life since the things he does just don’t add up to a middle aged man, it’s more like he’s an emo teenager for real.
@user-wy8ve5nr2n I know Ruby loves Kana but you should not forget that Ruby also has a psycho personality. Ruby is not the innocent girl you think she is she manipulates and uses people to get what she wants she can turn into a psychopath if she breaks
@user-wy8ve5nr2n did you forget that from chapter 79 to123 Ruby was literally a psychopath. She had no problem using people for her own benefits in one chapter. She had no problem replacing kana with another girl to get famous
it's not a simple black and white. Kana doesn't only hate Ruby, she also likes her, she considers her a friend. Ruby also doesn't only hate Kana...that's why this is painful. Real world relationship aren't black or white.
@@brawlmaster0190 Kana was already retiring from the group, nobody will replace her, she's leaving. Also the "crap" Kana told her is the only way Ruby can act for shit right now.
Poor Ruby. Getting too much like her mother. But it makes sense. Her traumas were unaddressed for too long. Let this be a lesson for those who love "KH". This is what he can/will become.
People being shocked Ai is like this is the same people being shocked that the barrista at Starbucks doesn't actually wish the angry Karen to "have a nice day"
Oh I see. Now I am not shocked anymore
Poor analogy. Bet you didn't look at this deeply
Except the only reason why they were all shocked because its not in the script. Ruby did it all her own. The part where an object is thrown at the door is not supposed to be part of the scene.
It was smart-ish to not end the scene because it helps give a better understanding whats going on in Ai’s mind. Ruby did it right, but I am concerned on the price just to succeed since Ruby is emotionally hurt, alot.
Even Aqua looks shocked by this.
why has this not gotten many likes?
I bet they're the same people that unsolicitedly tell you, "you'd look prettier if you smiled" or they genuinely think the random girl they approached is giggling coz she thinks they're funny whilst secretly she's thinking "please fuck off for Christ's sake" It's like that anime Lucky Star when the camera's turn off, you see what she really thinks about her fans.
Nino having those feelings after 30 years even after there's nothing except a ghost
More like 17-20 years
it's been 14 years since Ai died.
and 22 years since Ai joined B-Komachi
@@newshortsk ah yeah I forget at what age Ai joined B-Komachi. If she joined at ~12 and Nino immediately developed that resentment, then yeah 22 years tops.
For me it's a ghost or Tsukuyomi. I choose the latter.😂 You can choose whatever You want. Everyone is free to think whatever they like.😉
Its simple trauma. Trauma does keep you stuck in a same mental scenario despite time goes by
I liked that this chapter really explores the nuance of relationships like friendship, jealousy, admiration and rivalry. We can definitely see all of this feeling on Kanaruby & AiNino relationship dynamic.
I'm also like how Aka humanised Nino in this chapter & not making her just like typical a black&white villain character. Instead we also can empathizes with Nino feelings. And same like Ai, Nino also just another victim from the toxic nature of entertainment industry.
Exactly! I felt like I connected with Nino’s character a lot more in this chapter.
Yuuichi victims.
@@414Anime Yeah totally agree about the connexion with Nino's character getting closer.
As I am a big fan, let's create the next chapter with AI and share it with fans till next chapter comes (spoil) :
ruclips.net/video/5_N9G9bbzZY/видео.html
Not to mention I hope Nino is just being manipulated due to her guilt rather than being part of Ai's death. Hikaru is the kind who would take advantage of people due to his implied personal experience.
Though, Kana’s intention was to push Ruby into succeeding. Knowing how the direction of the movie is meant to go, Ruby decided to let her true feeling out so Ruby can do better. This also risks Ruby to hate her, which Kana is willing to take that sacrifice.
The thing with method acting is separating the character from your real life self because if you can't do that, then the "character" seeps into your life and you become it. It becomes very difficult to undone the damage and for Kana and Ruby that's what's happening. Ruby is becoming an mirror image of Ai and Kana goes full bore into being Nino. Sadly just more suffering from Kana and we'll see in two weeks how broken Ruby is.
well Kana and Nino are really alike..but i believe in Kana, she won't make the same end mistake
Kana is smart person you can exactly notice this from her perfect planning to help Ruby so l don't think she will hurt Ruby like Aqua said she isn't child anymore in the other hand Ruby is mature girl l know she had sad panels these recent chapters but we shouldn't expect happy things always special in a manga like Oshi no ko and Ruby was the person who wanted to understand Ai and it would be childish if Ruby was thinking Ai was perfect idol and yeah everything was good and she hadn't any problems but Akasa perfectly reflected Ai's true feelings by using Kana and Ruby friendship
Ruby has been miserable for a while. Kana just gave her an edge to be able to get into the character, since she knows this movie means a lot to a lot of people, and Ruby is inexperienced in acting. what she did was necessary. no other method would have been enough to bring those emotions and such realistic 'acting' out of Ruby. I'm sure they'll patch things up, or at least try. you see, Kana isn't the most intelligent character. but she is very experienced in the entertainment industry, and that is very evident.
chapter 137 is out and as i previously anticipated, they made up. i knew kana and ruby won't let the convos between them break them up.
@@sumedhasmagicalseries389 yeah l were so happy to see them with eachother again
Ai hates everyone. Good. Cause that means she's gonna _love_ that sociopath Hikaru.
So, yet again, we take one more step to the inevitability of the Yosuga no Ruby route.
Aqua is truly his father's child. Manipulative an a natural stalker
lol Hentai Boy
Hikaru was a normal boy at that time
This is one thing I find it really odd if you compare past and present (recent manga).
Aqua mentioned to Ruby that she would be better as an actress, now Ruby is one.
Aqua, during the scene when he revealed who he really is, tried to cheer Ruby saying she isnt Ai, and she shouldnt followed the same path as her.
Yet, people seemed to attempt to make Ruby the next “Ai” by hurting her emotionally enough so she can act like Ai. This is something I realize this wouldnt be what Aqua wanted, and didnt realize this was their plan. Including Kana, who fully intended to hurt Ruby so she can bring out Ai’s personality.
This really humanized Ai Hoshino and even after her initial passing from the prologue of the manga is just portrayed so well by the current characters to understand her better!!! Our shining idol before the twins are amazing
this is truly a shocking part to me and understandable to a person to react in that way... I guess Oshi No Ko never failed to surprise us
I just love the way kana acts in this chapter especially the part of when kana’s behind herself playing as Nino that was probably my favourite part I can’t wait to see everything that goes down!❤
Yeah it was perfect but also sad at the same time
@@where-is-my-cat I agree
@@Caitlyn_Arcane2 Yeah, that chapter hurt me a lot
Also for some reason I read kana as "kiana" for a second 😂
@@Herrscher_Of_Tuna I do that too sometimes but kana kaslana also sounds like a good name too ngl
@@Caitlyn_Arcane2 haha fr
its really depressing when you got what u worked so hard for and jealous by ur teammates....
This chapter is so tense, but I love it. Their emotions are out there, we can see they're thoughts, the emotional weight they carry.
Ai Hoshino is truly a genius like William Shakespeare was in DC Comics, The Sandman series. There is a price of being a genius and the special.
This chapter made me feel something I can relate to kana and Nino but I also understand how hard it must be to sit through all that misunderstanding makes me think of my personal friendships
But well considering human nature she only had two options either become a self-centered and pride girl or break ... guess she chose the latter
For real
True that!
No, this new side of Ruby/Ai is understandable. We tough through some major things in our life on the outside, but we can still get hurt no matter how much we harden our hearts. But behind closed doors, we eventually explode and let out our ugly yet true emotions.
One has to wonder with all that mental toll, would Ai had eventually slipped into delusion in her adulthood had she survived?
At one point, would she had been believing her own role not only to cope and survive but to found solace in the lies?
Don't get me wrong, Ai found in her children the support she needed for herself to be emotionally firm and sound.
But, maybe, what she would have dreaded the most more than telling her children that she loved them out of lies would have been presenting and showing herself to her children as the perfect, idol mother without flaws and defects for the rest of her life while burying her darkness and faults within the veil of lies.
Nah, I think she displayed suicidal tendencies with how she contacted their father, despite knowing what kind of person he is. Either she was desperate or she was hoping he would do something bad to her.
I just feel like her dying scene felt like she was regretting her whole life, her suicidal thoughts as well as the mask she wore all that time. It also felt like she was regretting not expressing her hatred and covering it all up with her lies and love.
The biggest mistake Ai ever made was believing that just because lies are a form of love, doesn't mean it's okay to become a pathological liar.
Of course not, like you said she has loving children.
@@RKNancy Nah I don't think contacting the father was a result of suicidal tendencies. Atleast I don't think she would bring a k*ller in her house and put her children in danger for that reason
It's the most ironic thing that even her children aren't even real children. She birthed children who are lying to her from the moment they're born
I think she planned to treat herself. Give up on her career. Weren't those some of her last words ?
So, genuine question, is this actually a surprising twist for people? It seems a lot of the readership is losing their minds over this "reveal" but for me, I just thought this was something we already knew. I could have sworn a lot of this was already pretty clear from the earlier chapters. Perhaps I've just become too good at getting into Ai's mind? Ruby and Aqua would kill for that XD
This arc reminds me of a quote:
“History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce” --Karl Marx
I can only speak for myself cuz while I also knew that deep inside Ai did hate everyone and was just putting a fake smile this whole time,I don't think it's the"reveal"that is making the fans lose their minds so much as having it said directly with Ai's facial expressions(through ruby's acting)that makes it hit even more.
At least that's how it is for me.
Nah, we tend to confuse the fiction for reality here. We thought this was an idol anime, that's why we believed in this idea for this show that lies are a form of love. When in reality, the author lied about lies here. Lies have always been a shield against the repercussions of reality, both for Ai and her fans, and for any celebrity out in the wild.
But lies are a very fragile shield, since people love deciphering lies. Imagine the pressure Ai was under, trying to keep the pretense that she loved everyone, when she actually hated everyone. She even told the manager at the start she hated everyone, yet he told her that lies are a form of love.
The way to neutralize hatred is by learning how to be indifferent towards certain things. But instead, she forced herself to love the things she hated, just because she was desperate for genuine relationships in her life.
@@RKNancy respectfully I’m confused as to what your point is. That’s all very obvious? Like I said that’s all been pretty clear from the start.
@@RKNancy She lies to everyone because she loved everyone, she wears her false smile and lies as invisible armor to the point she question her love to the twins as until her literal last breath, Damn, her relationship with Hikaru simply that RADIOACTIVE a
@@inaminayo5327 no you are not weird, it was obvious. The problem is that a lot of people lack the reading ability to figure this out. I've seen people trashtalking Kana for days lately for what she started with Ruby.
Like..i don't get how people thought that Ai was all sunshine and rainbows with all the info we got since the start.
at this point, even tho I haven't read the manga or seen the anime, I'm wondering if the ruby aqua ship isn't meant to be romantic, but a way for the characters to anchor themselves. a sense of morality chains that both hurt and guide them. Because at this point it feels like they've become so warped that its hard to call them human anymore.
This manga is so well written and portrayed!
In chp 135, I thought that Aqua is the one who doesn't understand Ai, But now, I think he will understand her.
Of course I'd think that, because Aqua, though being her son, doesn't understand her like he thinks he does. Acually, to be honest, Aqua's perspective is no different than the audience who are a huge fan of Ai.
Ruby, now understands Ai more, thanks to Kana, she is feeling just like Ai.
A close friend, or so she thought, is now turning against her. Even though she was just supposed to act, Kana understood how Nino felt and realizes that their situation is very similar.
In chapter 133, Ruby was saying how she doesn't understand Ai, so Kana felt like Ruby should know what she is doing, to help both her and ruby to understand the situation better. She understood that it's not just a movie anymore, it's their own situation, so she felt it necessary to peek at the reality.
Ruby, that's why now understands Ai way better, or rather she is just displaying her own feeling, she seriously doesn't understand that Ai was feeling the way she was.
Thank you, this is my own opinion of the current arc.
That's the thing. Ruby and Aqua always looked at Ai with warped eyes.
This recent chapter l felt so bad for Nino when l saw her first l thought she is just typical bad person who was jealous about her own friend but then l realized how a poor person she is imagine having everything special and then lose all of them for a perfect girl who is your own friend l relate to her so bad 💔
Bruh, I've yet to watch the anime... OR!!! read the manga, but GODDAMN!!! Ruby saying "I Hate Them All!!!"... I've felt that...
Was insane wasn’t it!!
Yes... Absolutely it is...
All I can say entertainment is really toxic. Seeing all this behind the scenes…ick!
And if that is how Ai really thought. That would have included her kids as well. Through I think in the end of her life she realized how much she loved them.
i think her kids were always the exception but she herself was never certain if they were until the very end
Those instances where even Aqua gets thrown for a loop is brilliant.
Every chapter just makes us understand how much of a genius the director is...he put Kana in that role for a reason..
"you have got to be kidding me" is still a line from Ruby in my opinion btw
From manga bubbles logic that was indeed ruby
This is so relatable... Seeing your friends achieve things in life, being happy and supporting them but also the underlying jealousy you feel and you hate yourself for it, for being a bad friend. Especially when you have been working 10× harder and it comes so easily to them.😭
Amazing video of an amazing chapter as always man! This was SO intense and im here for it! The panels capture everything so tightly!
Some of these panels had so much emotion in them
@@414Anime yeah. Simply amazing
Nino just has a serious mental issue. Why would u habor that much hatred over AI for that long.
Nino just got blinded with jealousy
The whole time they were in B-komachi Ai grew more popular and became the face of the group (which Nino was initially), which made the other members jealous, and eventually led to them baring hatred towards Ai. They kept it to themselves since they were friends, but there is a limit to how long a person can do this. Add this to Ai’s indifference towards Nino revealing how she felt, it makes sense that she reached her breaking point.
I personally think the actual reason Nino hates Ai is because the person she thought was her friend, had never once told her how she actually felt. She just kept lying to her which made her doubt their friendship.
The rivalries like in this chapter have seriously struck two of my favorite bands in 2023 with Slipknot and BFMV having someone get kicked out so this chapter had some good timing without ruining the pace
Kana Should not mess with Ruby anymore. We all know what happens when you mess with Ruby. Ruby is more dangerous than aqua we all remember from chapter 79 to chapter 123 Ruby basically used Kana for her own benefits, so nobody should mess with Ruby. She is more dangerous than you think. 🤩
@user-wy8ve5nr2n she became a psychopath at one point 😈
Probably that's how will I also react to my life if I was given a chance to burst out in anger.
Sh*t...this just went so dark...i miss Ai so much
The thing is, nino could've regained her spotlight after Ai's death. She just chose not to.
You are maybe right, but I think B Komachi was dead with Ai's death. The fans are very likely not interested in a group where the most popular girl died. Think of a popular band and imagine one of the background members taking the spot of the lead, it wouldnt work.
Can't wait to have this chapter animated.
Ruby going the antagonist route like her father.
It's pretty common that the daughter would physically resemble her mother, but has the exact personality of her father.
It wouldn't be surprising if it turns out at least the latter half of the manga covers with Ai were Ruby in costume for the movie.
It doesn't surprise me. The life she had gave her no reason to love anyone. Her children were the only good thing that happened in her life. Wherever she is, I bet she would give ANYTHING to get them back.
It may be hard. But in my "Little Nightmares" fanfic, she'll return to them. They may be reincarnations, but they've become more too.
This chapter caught me by surprise
I'm just scratching my head wondering "the viewers are supposed to _like_ Ruby right?" for about every 3rd chapter after Aqua told her who he was and I'm still wondering that right now.
LOVE your content man! Keep up the amazing work 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Thanks a ton!
@@414Anime np! 🔥🔥🔥
Fans of ai: no! 😖No way ai would hate anyone! 😣😣🥺🥺That’s not ai! 😣😣😢😢That’s not ai!😢😢
Me: I know their feeling, like really? 🙁First, I see ai actually crying in one of the newest chapters and now I learn that ai would have hated everyone? 😕I too am in disbelief because I always thought ai was all love and no hate, she was “ the idol of love” and stuff like that 😮
I know this is ruby portrayal of ai but GOOD GOD! 😱Even I wouldn’t have imagined any of this coming from the real ai even in a million years!😱
Makes me wish the anime had started season 2 already
what exactly gave you the idea that Ai was ok with all that stuff? It was painfully obvious that she was hiding her pain from ch1
No one even said that about Ai 💀
@@brawlmaster0190 no? I thought there were people would be saying that stuff, you know, her bona fide fans
Plus I only known ai as a cheerful person, until of course… her tragic death
@@xavierperes Not really. Even her fans know that she was a liar and was putting on an act 24/7
@@brawlmaster0190 her lifestyle was full of depression 😞😞😞😢😢😢😭😭😭
Want to know Nino feelings? Listen to Idol lol. The OP song is being turn into a movie
This chapter gave me PTSD 😨😭
this anime or manga shows being perfect wont make your life easier and happier, true masterpiece
I remember how I got actual chills when I read that last panel of the chapter. It was so good. I just kept staring at it in shock
I just discovered Your channel and after Attack On Titan anime has ended I became a fan of Oshi No Ko. Couldn't hold out from not reading this manga so I binged it and I have 3 theories here at the moment. This story may end up heartbreaking when Ruby Hoshino will be killed by her own father, but I think my theories may become true and make this story the most unique one ever!😂
1. Every one who was involved with Ai will watch this movie including Hikaru Kamiki. After the movie all the actors who have taken part in it would come to the front of the screen, starting with Aqua, but before he would enter this front he would rush on hooded figure in a first row and discover the culprit himself and ask others to call the Police.
2. After that Hikaru Kamiki would be asked by many interviewers if the accusations were true or not, but here would happen another plot twist: Hikaru would ask for exactly 5 people who should confess their truths to the whole world as well. And that would be: Aqua Hoshino, Ruby Hoshino, Fuyuko Niino, Marina Tendouji and finally child actor Tsukuyomi. It would be revealed Niino asked Hikaru to kill Ruby, but he let himself be captured by Aqua, so that "the whole truth would be revealed".😂 Then Ruby encouraged by "her father Hikaru" would start to remind her previous mother about a sick child she left behind and would reveal herself as that child- Sarina Tendouji. Of course it would be revealed that Aqua is that doctor in the meantime. But then it would be revealed that the famous actress gave birth to a child and left it immediately at the orphanage. She would be hanging out with the man who convinced her to left their child at the orphanage and he killed her in the mountains. That man who came back for his child was Hikaru Kamiki and his youngest daughter was Tsukuyomi. But it's still not the biggest plot twist I come up with! 🤣
3. After that reveal of Tsukuyomi being the youngest daughter of Hikaru Kamiki she would say the Words That Would Ring a Huge Bell: "Ruby…Aqua… I love You. Yeeeeay! That's the second time I can say it! And again it's totally not a lie!" 🤯 I'm sure that there is no greater liar than a mother who was hiding while standing in front of her children in a body of youngest actress.😂
Aren't those interesting theories of mine? Please let me know what You think?😉 Edit: I fixed some grammar and add few details.
You may also ask me why I thought about this theory at the point 3. So I'm giving my explanation in advance! 😉The concept of reincarnation was established at the begening of the story and I was trying very hard to exam it extensively, so here is what I come up with. What are my requirements to be reincarnated in Oshi no Ko? Truly love at least one, two persons in your life and have a strong goal that would bring You back as a newborn baby! What would be a goal strong enough to bring Ai back? Maybe those words: "I wonder... what kind of adults you'll grow up to be... As the two of you grow up... I want to be there to see it." 😆
Everyone can agree or disagree with me. It's just a freedom of thought after all. But to give more credebility to my hipothesis in point 3 I want to show You a very specific corelation between two lines- starting with the last one of this chapter which is: "What did I do wrong anyway?" and a 2 lines from Tsukuyomi in chapter 118 to Aqua during this initial conversation: "Why do You hate me so much? Did I do something wrong?". If this isn't a foreshadowing then even I don't know what this is! In the end I might be reading to much into this whole concept, that I absolutely enjoy.🤣
7:40
"let them cook"
Honestly, it's not surprising but very predictable. We all know behind the facade of a successful idol, there's darkness. It's just this manga was all cheerful and smiles at first that it gave the illusion of a happy successful woman who overcame all idols.
Social commentary on how a girl without emotions becomes the most popular idol?
Thos chapter was insane.
Killer chapter to kick of 2024
@@414Anime indeed
Sorry doesn’t really have to do with the video just predictions.
I don’t see us getting flashbacks from the directors perspective until after the filming ends. I could be wrong maybe we get flashbacks throughout the film showing us the side by side of Ruby performance and Ai’s actual feelings. Maybe she never actually confided in anyone, maybe she truly did despise everyone for using her and throwing all their pent up hatred towards her. We could be thrown way off track and Ai was this saint of a person who loved everyone. Very unlikely however given a lot of this story is based around the lies people tell. The lies we see in others which are perceived one way but are not what we are made to believe.
Honestly Ai hating everyone would make the most sense in this situation. The only time she may have been her genuine self or a piece of who she used to be prior to the Idol industry is when she gave birth the Aqua and Ruby.
As someone who hasn’t watched nor read oshi no ko I can confirm I am very confused
Keep in touch, to get even more confused.
Same Mr sus
I cannot wait for this to be adapted in the anime.
Really can't decide if I should read the manga or wait for the anime
After reading each chapter, i just want to hug every character.
Nice analysis! Tbh I do somewhat feel like I've been blank reading the later chapters but I'd say this got me to really pay more attention lol.
"Welcome to the Chang Hsien-Chung Club, Herr Hoshino" 1
That face reminded me of ghost 😂
Blackstar Dark ruby is back 😨
What is really frightening is how realistic this is relating with certain people within the idol industry, i will not name names for confidentially sake but let me tell you. You guys have really no idea just what sort of damage that it does to these people, especially in japan and korea. YIKES
I still don’t get Ai’s “Lies” and how it’s love to her, and what are “lies” can someone explain but not stupidproof?
Her lies are pretending to be a perfect idol. She has never felt other people's love neither has she loved someone genuinely, yet she always told her fans she "loved" them. It was only when she was dying that she realized that she actually loved her children. Also, her holding back all of her emotions, always pretending to be fine are other lies.
My goodness the first episode was awesome for this show I legit thought it was over and was just a movie that I had to wait for the sequel too when I finished the first episode.
ruby is costantly on a bad\sad path
seems she will never be free from despair
This chapter reminded me of Act age that was such a good series I missed that series. Sadly we all know what happened. 😩😭
Except ruby and aqua
And aqua in his previous like as the doctor aswell
Ooooh now I get it so history repeat itself in different ways now understand what the mange is going at
We can see in ruby’s acting and many people saying “that’s not ai!ai would never!” Ai would, she is made out of lies and of course she would never show that side of her because under that idol persona she created she is just a frail and weak girl
Nino hated AI but I think AI hated Nino even more and everybody in the group 🤩
That's the thing really Ai definitely did hate them but she also did love them to an extent as well, same with Nino she hated Ai but she still also loved her that's just how twisted their relationship was.
Ai did still love the bkomachi members even after everything they did to her in 45510 she wrote in a draft message Nino saw years later that she wanted nothing more than for them to be close again, it seemed like she was at her lowest point as she seemed like she was having a breakdown while writing it
虐待された子供は「愛」がなにかわからないよ
"let them cook" 😀
The only thing i know is that this is horrible. I don't know any other way to explain it. Understand it as you will
What i mean is who is noy feeling horrible after reading this manga. If don't know if y'all understand what i mean
I need the next chapter asap
Jealousy of a fellow idol is a nonsensical concept to me. There's only so much you can do to stand out doing the same dance and the same song as everyone else on the stage. People pick favorites for everything, especially if they look similar.
People get into this business for money and attention. It’s only human to be jealous.
Dude! You should check out "Gushing over Magical Girls", it's NICE! A hentai spoof?!
Could you please don't write spoilers on the preview?
Is it just me or I feel like this anime had bad writing regarding the sensei becoming aqua, because sensei supposedly had so much knowledge that he became a DOCTOR, and after reincarnation to aqua he has iq similar to ruby?? It’s like he never had a previous life since the things he does just don’t add up to a middle aged man, it’s more like he’s an emo teenager for real.
doesnt nino mean 2 in Japanese?
She also hates you for spoiling anime watchers through the Thumbnail AND Title.
Damn, she’s being Uta from One Piece
Oshi No Ko Manga Chapter 137 RAW
ruclips.net/video/ItHjG0EJR6E/видео.html
1:34 - 1:38 I don't you think you stole Nino's fans either
;3
Kana hates Ruby but I think Ruby hates Khanna even more to the point that I think Ruby wants to kill Kana now 🤩
@user-wy8ve5nr2n I know Ruby loves Kana but you should not forget that Ruby also has a psycho personality. Ruby is not the innocent girl you think she is she manipulates and uses people to get what she wants she can turn into a psychopath if she breaks
@user-wy8ve5nr2n did you forget that from chapter 79 to123 Ruby was literally a psychopath. She had no problem using people for her own benefits in one chapter. She had no problem replacing kana with another girl to get famous
@user-wy8ve5nr2nHell nah bro that's copium
After what the shit Kana said to her? Not a chance
it's not a simple black and white. Kana doesn't only hate Ruby, she also likes her, she considers her a friend. Ruby also doesn't only hate Kana...that's why this is painful.
Real world relationship aren't black or white.
@@brawlmaster0190 Kana was already retiring from the group, nobody will replace her, she's leaving. Also the "crap" Kana told her is the only way Ruby can act for shit right now.
Its like watching domething on viki
To be honest I think nino is the wrong person here ai did nothing and nino was so toxic and isn’t this ai 7:51
You sure that wasn't her?
Aye?
Early!!:D
Poor Ruby. Getting too much like her mother. But it makes sense. Her traumas were unaddressed for too long.
Let this be a lesson for those who love "KH". This is what he can/will become.
Bro no hate but i hate yt algo like why did it suggetz me your video even tho i never searchrd oshi no ko and now i am spoiled😢
damn
I DID NOT SEE THAT YOU LIAR
Who is a liar?
★.★
Please less spoiler titles
Well, anything that gets views, I guess 🤷
Ruby x aqua this is just for fun
Yes
Well said
Aqua × Ruby (totally serious, I hope they kiss soon)
@@Shresatyt i hope you will succeed 👍
👍😎🍺🍩,,,
What an awful anime
Nossaa