Narrowboat Engine Maintenance - Episode 17
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Want to see how we maintain our narrowboat engine?
We’re about to head off on an extended narrow boat journey along the Leeds and Liverpool canal so join us in the engine bay as we share with you a video about how we maintain our narrow boat’s Beta 43 engine before we go. Take a look as Tony changes the gearbox oil, replaces a hose and tightens the belts before we set off cruising the cut!
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A big thanks as I’m just about to service my Beta 43 and PRM 150,,,, your video was very informative take care and happy cruising
Beautiful tutorial. Thanks so much!! Keep it up
This video is so clear and really really helpful. I've just bought my first narrowboat and started living on it, had no idea about engines at all. thank sooooooo much xxxx
Just walked back in home having been to my boat checking over - and your video was perfect! - showed me a few things I forgot and lengthened my "to do" list - but at least I now know how "to do" Cheers.
Arnold Brewer Hi there Arnold, sorry for making your to do list longer but glad that you enjoyed the vid 😊
Nice to see someone servicing in advance rather than repairing afterwards...... Good idea to prime a fuel filter with fresh fuel before fitting if its position allows, saves time bleeding. Nice and useful video. Enjoy your cruising season.
Ken Haigh Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, much appreciated. All ready to go now, just hope that the weather stays fine a little longer!
very well explained and filmed definitly thumbs up
Thank you very much, I can now change my fuel filter and check that "glomerator" thingy. I have the BM43 and can't believe how much space you have down there, my semi trad is tighter than your space. Brilliant video 👍
Great video and thank you!
Still no boat yet , shame you sold yours , but whoever bought it had a good buy ...hope you both well and happy x
The boat has been up for hire through the new owners by a company called Escape the Rat Race. (ETRR). The current hirer had been watching the videos and made contact through Instagram. Just debating doing some land based vlogs next year with new travels planned. Probably caravan based as we just got a new dog and it might be tight in a motorhome!
Great video which gives me the confidence to open the fuel system on my Beta 43. Having changed the belts on both domestic and engine alternators I agree that the domestic one is relatively simple, especially if you have a screwed tensioner like I have. Took me about 10 mins.
If you are thinking of more challenging videos , how about a 2 hr timelapse video showing the basic principles of changing the engine alternator fanbelt. I'm sure the loud music would be needed to cover the swearing here!. Think it took me about 4 hrs and needed to strip all the domestic alternator bracketry , engine alternator bracketry and loosen half the screws on the water pump housing to allow adjustment,, buy a decent set of ring spanners as nothing else would reach and adjust with a foot long screwdriver. Having finally got the belt off, although it was stamped 'Beta Marine', it was obviously the ONLY one EVER made and unique to our specific engine. We were right outside Midland chandlers at Braunston and neither they nor any other branch could match the part or determine why genuine part replacements were either too long or short.. Finally found one at the lovely people at Grand Union Canal carriers who agreed how difficult the belt was to change. Stay safe and happy cruising.
Very helpful thanks for sharing
Well done guys👏👏👏👍😁
EXCELLENT, many thanks!
Iis like working on car motor thank for showing what you do to keep Narrowboat Engine running
Stacieod Stacieod Hi there! Yes it's very much like a car service, thanks for stopping by.
Great video and very timely as I have a 750 hour service coming up soon.
I have the same engine and gearbox as you but haven't had to change the gearbox oil yet and wasn't sure exactly where the drain plug is located.
As an aside, when I bought the boat last year the mechanics at the marina said I should check the level of the gearbox oil with the dipstick just resting inside the chamber not completely screwed in which, like you, is how I was doing it. The Beta manual doesn't say one way or the other.
Hi there, thanks for stopping by and commenting! It's just the way I've always checked gearbox oil so have continued to do so. Take a look at www.dintra.com and click on the UK flag. If you look under downloads there is a manual for the gearbox which might be useful, good look with the service :-)
That is a very good instructional video for the narrowboat community. Just a couple of points: 1. It is worth using the correct size spanner rather than using an adjustable spanner. I refer to the part where you tighten the alternator belt. You will be going back to these nuts time over time and you do not want to round them over.
2. The rubber cooling hose that fretted against the engine support structure - cut a short section of the old hose - split it lengthwise and then slide on the engine frame in way of contact with the 'new' hose.
3. Venting fuel filter - you do not need to take the vent screw out completely.
4. It may be worth exploring if you could use a 'Pela' extractor for use on your gearbox - much more convenient and less messy, it also avoids having to take the gearbox sump drain bolt out.
Sorry - just trying to be helpful.
All great points, thanks for adding them as they are very useful.
Nice clear and informative description of what needs to be done! Thanks Tony :)
Ronnie Lloyd Thanks Ronnie, much appreciated 😊
nicely done.
N Legg Cheers!
Good job, class engine, very informative vlog. Enjoy your trip.
Thanks very much :-)
Always good to see videos like this as they are so informative. Just one small thing for this vid - just need to turn the music sound down a little :-)
Purring like a kitten - good vid 👍🏻
Looking into getting a narrowboat and wanted to see what type of work was involved on the engine. Your video was absolutely perfect. Few questions: Should you warm the engine before pumping the oil out? Do you check for loose bolts around the engine? Are torque settings important? At 6:36 could you of tightened the other end of the bolt rather than the hard to get to one? Could you tie the coolant hose so it doesn't rub the engine? With checking the oil does the dip stick need screwing in (on many engines you stop before screwing in)? Where do you put the old oil? Could you do a similar video on checking the electrical system? Sorry for so many questions!
What a fantastic video. Learnt so much from it.
Cheers!
Great video and very helpful thank you.
Cheers!
great vid Tony.. lose the music and you'll be a demonstrator for open university next!
you might want to use some of the old radiator hose to wrap the new pipe and around the frame at contact point
Thanks Rigby, maybe a new career awaits :-)
hi
The coolant hose scrubs at the sharp metal edge. Pull the hose away from the edge with one or more cable ties.
Cheers
Great tip, thanks!
Can I ask what oil you used for the gearbox 'cos I've got the same unit.
It was Unipart Prom 100 15w40, it was a cheap buy from Ebay :-)
very helpful video, much appreciated. What are you looking for when you unscrew the water/fuel separator screw, are you looking for water?
Yes any water or general "muck" should be released. If you catch it in a jam jar you can see exactly what's going on.
This is a really great and informative video, thanks!
Thanks, much appreciated!
I strongly recommend, when changing oils on your narrow boat use disposable gloves to protect your skin. Used oil in diesel engines is carcinogenic. Google up the lubricant manufacturer & read the Safety Data Sheet, for handling used oil.
Apologies regarding the music! Unfortunately, the video editing software snuck in a piece of music that wasn't intended to be in the video. I know that some of you want to us to reload the video minus the music but our current location and lack of reliable wifi won't allow. If any clarification is needed regarding the narration please comment and we'll try to answer the best we can :-)
It's A Narrowboat Thing what do you do with your waste oils? Are you meant to dispose of them in the lsan?
Amazing how close the engine is to my old BMW motorcycle engine, just much larger of course.
No need to fully remove bleed screws, just slacken them off a bit.
Very helpful. Thanks for sharing. Just out of interest, any tips on regreasing the stern gland?
is the box thing behind the engine on the hull the keel box?
It's the weed hatch for accessing the propellor.
In case its ever useful, the Betas use the Kubota engine. What Beta does is they "marinize" the Kubota engine with various components necessary for marine application (heat exchanger, raw water pump, etc). (See www.sailnet.com/forums/diesel/62582-any-pros-cons-beta-marine-engines-please.html)
Thanks for the info!
Very informational on the video, Great to see! music was a touch loud as mentioned but I suspect Tony just got a bit quiet is all!
Question: at about the 3:33 there is that green looking tank behind. I am guessing it's the fuel tank, but brings up a few questions. If it is, is it the only one (it seems a bit small) if not what is it? and where is the fuel tank?
Thanks again for the lovely video
Hi there, not sure but I think that what you're referring to our hot water cylinder as the fuel tank is built into the shell and not visible from the engine bay.
Oh good to know, I hadn't even thought about where that would be on a boat.
I was thinking more on this video since I saw it and can really see the 'charm' of the old time narrowboats in the engine. It's a modern engine but has a practical hand pump to get oil out, a there doesn't seem to be any computers involved with timing of the engine or fuel mixing. It's very basic but effective.
Excellent video, as someone noted the music used in places was a bit loud and mad it hard to hear what was being said.
Be careful about over tightening the Alternator belt. When you use a lever to add tension, it is possible to overdo it. The pulley end of the alternator has a robust ball bearing, but the rear end of the alternator rotor is commonly a bronze tube bearing. Too much belt tension wears this bearing out, and once the rotor starts contacting the Stator, the alternator is junk. These are quite inexpensive in automobiles, but ridiculously expensive on marine engines. Mine cost me $1400 USD. There is a specific tension for you engine. Find it, and get used to it, and save both your alternator, and your belt. Thumping them like a bass guitar string may not be an accurate assessment. :) Just saying.
I have the same engine and gearbox in my tresfjord 26 boat. what is your gearbox ratio and what are your propeller dimensions? What is the max rpm what you get with your propeller? How many hours has the engine been used?
Not sure of the ratio. Its a PRM 150 gearbox with a 450mm propeller.
Question regarding engine oil. Once pumped all of the oil out of the engine, is this actually all of the oil from the sump? As surely there will be some residue left inside the engine that is not clean and that you cannot remove? So would it not be better to remove sump and clean? Thanks
Hi Tim. The pump is installed by the manufacturer because you can't get to the bottom of the engine. The pump is connected where the drain plug would be. To remove the sump you would need to take the engine out.
Great video, thanks for the tips. Can I ask what size alternator belts you used? I'm sure the ones I have are too narrow for the smaller one!
Drawn By Swans Hi. The belt for the domestic alternator is a Dayco 6PK1173 and for the starter I have a Gates 6474exl. Both available via ebay. Hope this helps.
Hi Antony, thank you. We are on are way up to Birmingham on the Stourport ring so could get one there. one again thank you.
Good informative video apart from the music its really not necessary.
Cheers Alan, the music was an editing error!
I thought it was illegal to run the engine on Red Diesel should be clear Red Diesel can only be used for heating on a narrow boat. Was this filmed before that law came in ???.
You can only buy red diesel on the canals. You have to declare what percentage of the purchase you are using for propulsion and pay increased duty to the seller on that portion.
HI, Seems like you really know what ur doing! Can I ask, did you learn this kind of stuff as you went along or did you have some knowledge already? myself and partner are thinking of boat life but we really have zero knowledge of engines (don't drive) so would these kind of checks be something we can call a maintenance person out for, whilst we are learning, or is it easy enough to pick up? Thanks E+A
especially as I imagine different checks for different kinds of engines? thanks
Hi. I learnt from my Dad. I am by no means an expert but am quite handy. You could call somebody out to do it but as with most things there is a youtube video somewhere showing you how to do it.
Hi. What type of coolant did you use?
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Hi great video and just what I needed before doing my first service. One question, do you not turn off the fuel supply whilst changing the filter? Thanks.
Please don't over-tighten nuts into aluminium screw threads, as they will crumble away.
Just a quick question. Are you sure that the arglominator (sorry for the spelling) doesn't have a replaceable filter in it?
I knew that we'd be asked that! We're not quite sure what's in it and didn't get chance to get a seal kit prior to our trip. It's most likely to have a stainless steel gauze inside but we daren't risk taking it to bits without the kit :-)
It's A Narrowboat Thing The reason I ask is I have a similar filter on my yacht with the water drain at the bottom (mine has a paper cartridge inside) over the years it's the one that always needs replaced as it's first in line from the tank and catches all the muck. The filter on the engine is normally much much cleaner.
It did have a stainless mesh cleanable filter inside 👍
the engine sounded sweet . how much hp/torque
ratrod diesels Hi there, it's 43hp and 130.3 Nm of torque at 1600 rpm
Music was too loud, I struggled to hear your voice over it.
Started off ok but he, or someone unknown drowned out the important bits with some stupid, inane, music which drowns him out in places. For a video purporting to inform an spiring narrowboater it's very intrusive and annoying.
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