Are Red Dots on Pistols Just Trendy?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Answering a viewer question about red dot sights on handguns.
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I like iron sights.
I do too. I think it depends on the handgun and how it is used. For a defensive handgun I totally agree with Hickok45 -I don't even like bigger adjustable target sights. Minimalist is the way to go on a concealed handgun. On a duty pistol I could see larger sights or even optical if that is what you want when it is carried on a duty belt OWB holster. That's just not my situation nor my mission. I carry AIWB and sometimes pocket carry and the most minimal sights like a notch along the top won't snag or be in the way. At up to 15 yards it is all point-shooting anyhow and the sights don't even come into play. If you can't hit a 6" target at 15 yards reliabily without the sights then you need to shoot and practice more. Using the sights just slows you down very measurably. That extra half second to use the sights might make the difference between surviving or not.
The more I shoot with my dot, the more I like irons
Iron sights never need a battery for one thing and you have to work really hard to make iron sights "lose zero" once sited in.
@@robbylock1741 no argument there, but they run in the 10's of thousands of hours, and holosun solar panels does work.
Use what works best for you. I like iron sights. It’s what I’m used to.
Red dots are easier to learn than iron. Like many pieces of technology it’s easier, but I still recommend beginners learn iron sights.
Totally agree with you. Tried them and removed them. For me not CC Option for way too many reasons.
Just from a financial standpoint I see no practical need for a red dot on a pistol. I have a optics ready S&W 2.0 with suppressor height sights, but I don't see the need to spend another $250 on a quality optic for it. I'm a very simplistic person so it's hard for me to justify things that I don't really need. By the way, that S&W 2.0 was a gift from my son, I would not have purchased it myself. He said he's trying to get me into the modern age...lol
I'm fine with iron sights. Besides, I carry a snubnosed revolver. Even if I could put an optic on it, I wouldn't because the increased height would make it unviable for my preferred carry method.
I’m like you I prefer iron/night sights over a red dot. 100% agree it makes gun bigger and yet everybody is all about the new micro 9 then put extended magazine in it and a red dot.
micro 9s are primarily designed for enhanced conceal-ability for carry. Shortening the width, grip and slide. Adding the red dot doesn’t really change that as you’re just adding an accessory on the lateral plane if, say, doing IWB or AIWB
Regarding the tree, it is a volunteer. That is what we call it here in the west.
I love them. Shot irons for years, shot well with irons, but I've advanced fast with a red dot and I retain my irons as well.
I think a lot of guys are going to them because they feel like it will make them shoot better without having to practice. Others do it for the "cool factor". I've seen too many cases where they fail. I only ever had scopes on two rifles, an Anschutz target rifle and a Barrett 82A1. I like the KISS principle......less things to go wrong.
Appreciate your perspective. I'm not surprised, as in the man who slapped the gong with slugs from the front porch without full sights.
I use red dots on sightless rifles I don't need a scope for.
Iron sights for me.
I tend to agree, I don't like my carry gun any bigger than it needs to be. My bedside gun has a dot on it, and I train with it regularly, and I enjoy shooting it, however I just like my EDC carry to be slick.
Been shooting iron sights for 55+ years, but, for several years now I have had a Crimson Trace on my S&W Airweight that i primarily carry. It's ergonomically comparable to the stock handle and, in my mind at least, it would be an advantage to aid in target acquisition in dark or low light self defense situations should the need ever arise. Which i hope it never does. But, I feel it could be helpful in that self defense scenario.
I tried a JP Enterprises red dot when they first came out. Put it on a Government 1911. Waste of money and time. Acquiring the dot was nearly impossible for me. Probably too old to learn but I did try to get the hang of it for quite a while since I don't like spending several hundred dollars on something I toss in the drawer. Well, it is still somewhere in a drawer.
As common senses as the the rule. Sidearms are generally for short distance. I fail to see the need for the red dot. Plus it makes the profile much larger in heigth and special rigs. Practice with iron and I am sure you will become proficient. As always Hickok straight forward advice.
I agree with your opinion on the red dot sights. However, I have a few years on you and I have macular degeneration. My rear sight on any gun doesn't look even to me. Even a scope is a problem since to lines are wavy. I tried a red dot and was surprised at how much it helped. I can shoot again!!! I found help for me. I do believe that they may be trendy but at least they aren't like lights and lasers on a home defense weapon that give away your home field advantage. Keep talking and I'll keep listening.
Beautiful tree!
I have a tiny oak tree, that I’ve been allowing to grow. My thoughts are, I’ll never get to see it get to the point, where it could be called a big tree.
I could never understand the popularity of red dots for pistols. Especially silly are seeing these on compact pistols. Why get a CCW gun only to bolt a TV screen on top of it?
I have one pistol with a red. It's very accurate but it also shows me how my aim wanders all over the place
I look forward every year for my tulip poplars to bloom, just like I look forward to you talks, have a great day.
I don't want an Optic on my carry gun, but I think they're fine otherwise.
Optics were used for decades in open division before they got tiny and cheap, so it's not like they're new at the high end of shooting. The trends that went out of style seemed like they'd make shooting easier but the difference was non-existent or negative among the best shooters.
At the same time Red dots are different from other trends in that, like you said the oldest shooters I see at my club, who are most accustomed to irons switch to red dots because of their eyesight.
Hickock didn’t plant the trees, he just allows them to grow.
I respect Hickock's opinion, of course. But what shoots the fastest? IPCS open shooters have been using optics since the 90's. Sure, they're using brakes, hot ammo, and stendos. But they are the fastest, most accurate, and highest performing shooters. They allow for a higher level of performance, and that's the truth. Red dots got smaller, and now the average Joe can put one on his carry piece without inconveniencing himself. It's not a crutch, and it's not a disadvantage.
I was always a very accurate person with a handgun. Red dots made me perfection with a handgun. Tried one on an M&P 2.0 at the range and I was a little pissed how much more accurate I was. Either way, practice practice practice.
Red dots on pistols are silly.
Pistols are close range instinctual weapons.
They are practical for competition but not for actual real world defensive pistol usage.
Are they still short range instinctive weapons if you have to shoot them at 75yards?
@@hughlamont3696 Why would I engage a target that far away with a pistol?
More and more police officers are switching to red dots. Just an observation
@ruck27 they'll still miss 95% of their shots.
@@TheTrueNorth11 coyote attacking chickens and no rifle handy. That's my most recent experience
I can see a real use for a laser for situations where putting your head behind the gun might not be the best idea but a red dot on a handgun not so much. Now on certain rifles sure.
Despite the high cost of living it still remains poplar.
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Real Men don’t need red dots. 😂😂🇺🇸
I am a fully stock kinda guy
I myself am somewhat on the red dot bandwagon. But I only have started to shoot pistols in the last 3 months or so and started out with a dot. The Glock bug has bit me and I just picked up a g17.5. I am going to leave it irons only for some time to try to get more proficient with the irons.
Hickok, have you thought about doing a video on the Glock performance trigger? Being it’s an oem part and at a decent price point it seems intriguing to me.
Have a great weekend!
As an old guy newbie shooter I sure do like optics. Without it there's a too much blurriness to be accurate (leaving aside recoil anticipation I haven't come close to overcoming).
But that's target shooting with all the time in the world to line up the shot, not self defense and not concealed carry.
For self defense I've thought it would be good to just have a high visibility line down the top, but I've never seen one like that.
I have pistols with optics but I still shoot my p210 the best no optic I also love my 10-6 just a groove for rear sight.
Not hard to conceal a red dot on a full size gun. Sounds like a lot of people here dont have good holsters of belts to conceal correctly
I have only had red dots on .22s, and even then, they just didn't seem to hold up well. I find it hard to believe that a red dot on a 9mm slide would last more than a few hundred rounds. Maybe I just wasn't spending enough. Can someone tell me how much one that would actually last 1000 rounds would last, and what model?
"You don't need that red dot sight on your weapon. Here, let me take that from you." --Random Fudd
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