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  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 2 месяца назад +994

    Palafin really going from Hero to Zero the second Urshifu showed back up

    • @jonathanmackenzie6815
      @jonathanmackenzie6815 2 месяца назад +29

      Also why run Palafin in regs where Urshifu is banned, when you can use Basculegion as your water type, you don't need to switch your Basculegion, and since Basculegion is also a Ghost-type it is immune to fake out assuming you don't tera it into a pure water type. Compared to Urshifu and Basculegion, Palafin suffers from a too high opportunity cost IMO, since you need to switch it out and back in to get the full benefits of Zero to Hero and by the time you get Palafin back in you might be down 1 pokemon.

    • @ZAPRST8879
      @ZAPRST8879 2 месяца назад +23

      it's not even it's fault, it's urshifu's for being too busted and the devs won't nerf them for some reason

    • @noahtaylor1721
      @noahtaylor1721 2 месяца назад +12

      @@ZAPRST8879They did technically nerf single strike urshifu by reducing wicked blow to 75 power whereas it was 80 power previously. I don’t think they did this for balance purposes though, I think they just wanted it to have the same effective base power as surging strikes.

    • @Glory2Snowstar
      @Glory2Snowstar 2 месяца назад +15

      I still don’t understand why Palafin isn’t Water/Fighting when Fighting is the “good guy” Type. Dude even gets Superpower!

    • @miniiore
      @miniiore 2 месяца назад +5

      Now in regulation H, palafin went from zero to zero

  • @harrisontownsend910
    @harrisontownsend910 2 месяца назад +381

    Gen 7 snorlax was just him waking up from gen 2 and realizing he wasn't done just yet.

  • @neat4217
    @neat4217 2 месяца назад +403

    Nah the Rotom appliances on Black Friday sale is diabolical

  • @Lewlo
    @Lewlo 2 месяца назад +678

    To be fair, Rotom Fan / Ice has had permanent residency on the clearance shelf from day 1. Unfortunately.

    • @InsertFunnyThingHere
      @InsertFunnyThingHere 2 месяца назад +75

      People just haven't run Air Balloon on it enough

    • @bigmonke3348
      @bigmonke3348 2 месяца назад +33

      They need to rework rotom fan to have hurricane over air slash. Also give all the rotoms a healing move or an HP buff.

    • @noahtaylor1721
      @noahtaylor1721 2 месяца назад +21

      @@bigmonke3348That, or give Rotom a hidden ability to give fan’s typing a bit more merit

    • @grantdaily9662
      @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +14

      @@noahtaylor1721 heck give it a better Flying move, Hurricane specifically, so that way it has a high damage second STAB that the rest of the forms have. Though I'd just give Rotom adaptability across the board or something like that

    • @grantdaily9662
      @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +6

      Oh like Rotom-H give it Drought, Rotom-W give it Drizzle, Rotom-F give it Adaptability, Rotom-M give it Grassy Terrain, Rotom-Fr give it Snow Warning and Rotom base give it Electric Terrain.

  • @valiantchris6456
    @valiantchris6456 2 месяца назад +417

    11:10 Tyranitar's Singles crash out must be studied.

    • @amininirfan6408
      @amininirfan6408 2 месяца назад +54

      Yeah, pursuit is a powerful move, and without it ghost type are running rampant

    • @shadowdragun
      @shadowdragun 2 месяца назад +40

      Staraptor's too. Went from UUBL for 4 gemerations in a row since its introduction to dropping to NU in gen 9

    • @noskillrequired9532
      @noskillrequired9532 2 месяца назад +1

      Meet went from Ubers to NUBL

    • @Gold_Gamer_100
      @Gold_Gamer_100 2 месяца назад +23

      Ttar? Try deoxys defense.
      Ubers staple to nuble with a pathetic d rank in ou. This thing is not washed its drowned

    • @iancastro1327
      @iancastro1327 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Gold_Gamer_100vgc video

  • @grantdaily9662
    @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +182

    I really wish they'd bring back Return, so many Normal and Steel types out of a powerful STAB or Coverage move

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 2 месяца назад +45

      i really dont get why Return and Frustration where removed in gen 8, it had no business to get axed cause of how good they are, and now the options for physical normal moves is really limited

    • @grantdaily9662
      @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +21

      @bulborb8756 right? Like if the point was the power, then why are any of the 100+ moves still in the game? Like I get it, no one really used frustration and return was spammed on everything from Lopunny and Steelix to Snorlax and Klinklang, but damn man they really should've been replaced with a new move for Normal STAB at this point. Heck even Hidden Power got reworked for Unknown in PLA for it to always be Super Effective regardless of typing

    • @MaahirMomtaz12
      @MaahirMomtaz12 2 месяца назад +4

      @@bulborb8756 Friendship values changed in Gen 8. It got drastically reduced so that's probably why they got removed

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 2 месяца назад

      @@bulborb8756 Having seen many solo runs, I’m kinda glad they’re gone as they’re very generic.

    • @brendanirvine6088
      @brendanirvine6088 2 месяца назад

      Steel?

  • @mahamoncarter
    @mahamoncarter 2 месяца назад +35

    Ursaring getting sick of GSC Snorlax and training its whole life to mog it as Ursaluna is a beautiful character arc

  • @manuelcanovas5130
    @manuelcanovas5130 2 месяца назад +220

    There is no way we aren't talking about Zacian. He was the second most picked pokemon after incineroar at 2022 worlds. Now he is not even top 8 in all the restricted pokemon.

    • @winterwatson6437
      @winterwatson6437 2 месяца назад +70

      we’re definitely not he/him-ing zacian

    • @chadnorris8257
      @chadnorris8257 2 месяца назад +11

      I was expecting Zacian on the list too. I keep hearing about how awesome it is, then suddenly it gets nerfed, and isn't so broken anymore. I think it was a nerf to attack stats, and its ability only triggering the first time it enters battle, instead of every time it switches in. That and now that dynamaxing isn't a thing, the added damage to giants doesn't matter.

    • @jjtjp2469
      @jjtjp2469 2 месяца назад +33

      Pretty much. Granted, Zacian is still a very good Pokémon, but to go from what was considered to be the single best Pokémon in the entire game during Gen 8 to being pretty whatever in Gen 9 is an insane drop off. Meanwhile, her brother, Zamazenta, is having the time of his life in Gen 9, lmao

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 2 месяца назад +42

      She was too much of a girl boss last generation.

    • @VectorKnightZX
      @VectorKnightZX 2 месяца назад +18

      Honestly, I feel like it just deserves an "honorable mention" shoutout. It still has some potential, and was used more than Regieleki and Palafin (AFAIK). Still very, very notable, as it is (again, AFAIK) the sharpest, fastest viability drop in VGC history.

  • @silvercomics3517
    @silvercomics3517 2 месяца назад +107

    For fall offs in singles, there’s no greater fall than Tauros

    • @solitare4602
      @solitare4602 2 месяца назад +10

      My top-of-head list was Tauros, Mewtwo, Snorlax, and Persian. Although, Persian might just be for Pokemon Stadium rentals. I don't remember how good it was in Gen 1.

    • @kamelo2219
      @kamelo2219 2 месяца назад +8

      @@solitare4602 I'd like to add Alakazam, twice.

    • @pkmntrainerred4247
      @pkmntrainerred4247 2 месяца назад +10

      Tyranitar: Hold my crown... cuz I don't own it anymore

    • @Animenite97
      @Animenite97 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@solitare4602Gen 1 Persian was basically Tauros, but worse. But it turns out that Tauros is so good that having a second one, even a worse second one, ain't half bad.

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kamelo2219 Exeggutor was more viable Psychic type due to better moveset and superior bulk. Alakazam can be one of the fastest Pokémon with one of the highest attacking stats and the best type in the game, but when two of the Big 4 are the most busted special walls in the metagame, the third resists all your attacks, and the fourth just annihilates you with ease, AND you get crippled to the ground with Paralysis, you just aren't as viable as you want to be.
      You ain't fit for the top if you can't throw hands with the top.

  • @Joeybanananas
    @Joeybanananas 2 месяца назад +68

    Scizor is kinda a sleeper pick in this category.
    We had a meta with flutter mane, a physically weak fast fairy type that could sweep teams if positioned correctly, getting like 50+% usage. The perfect environment for bullet punch scizor to go off.
    And... it just didn't. It couldn't get it done anymore. Despite everything seeming to go its way. We had tera to cover its quad weakness, we had amulet to stop intim drops, we had pelly being stronger then ever as a great partner, etc etc. Didn't matter. Scizor just isn't it anymore.

    • @MaahirMomtaz12
      @MaahirMomtaz12 2 месяца назад

      @@Joeybanananas No more Roost

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 2 месяца назад +8

      @@MaahirMomtaz12Not like this really mattered for VGC, though.

    • @jmcbango
      @jmcbango 2 месяца назад +1

      Was sciz ever actually good in vgc to begin with?

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 2 месяца назад +6

      @@jmcbango Flashback to Gen 5.

    • @Joeybanananas
      @Joeybanananas 2 месяца назад +7

      @@jmcbango Yes. Go to the limitless results page. It won German nats and 2 Italian nats. Plus plenty of top cut results circa 2012-13

  • @rocketpenguin2207
    @rocketpenguin2207 2 месяца назад +173

    one must imagine snorlax happy

  • @jjtheenton
    @jjtheenton 2 месяца назад +93

    Tyranitar despite seeing nowhere near the same usage as past gens: "Yeah, I still got it."

    • @MaahirMomtaz12
      @MaahirMomtaz12 2 месяца назад +4

      This is in a Doubles perspective but yeah

    • @GravityIsFalling
      @GravityIsFalling 2 месяца назад +4

      Ttar is good in regional formats still

    • @blueredwhitepurple
      @blueredwhitepurple 2 месяца назад +2

      Tyranitar is demolishing Reg H rn

    • @kamelo2219
      @kamelo2219 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MaahirMomtaz12 he asked for singles equivalents

  • @iancastro1327
    @iancastro1327 2 месяца назад +51

    Landorus T downfall was not a thing in my new gen chart
    Also Guilty Gear Mentioned 🗣🔥

  • @jasonthejazzman8521
    @jasonthejazzman8521 2 месяца назад +108

    8:09 Snealser jumpscare

  • @flatbread42
    @flatbread42 2 месяца назад +14

    One thing missing from the regieleki segment: its one remaining niche, electro web speed control, was also power crept because speed booster Fluttermane is faster and has icy wind.

  • @Tiltigo
    @Tiltigo 2 месяца назад +65

    Seriously, it might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the pokemon games should start doing regular balance updates.

    • @lilharm
      @lilharm 2 месяца назад +5

      problem being: how do you touch competitive without snuffing casual?

    • @mattyorshin
      @mattyorshin 2 месяца назад +1

      Or buff weaker forgotten mons.

    • @variumi
      @variumi 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lilharmyeah, imagine having a move on a playthrough mon that gets banned or their stats get nerfed

    • @Tamikansu
      @Tamikansu 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lilharmthat’s why if they were to do that they should prioritize buffing weaker mons rather than nerfing stronger ones

    • @lilharm
      @lilharm 2 месяца назад +3

      @@variumi “I woke up this morning to find my Landorus Therian that was carrying my team through the Elite Four now takes hits like a wet noodle I’d like my money back”

  • @murphyduck
    @murphyduck 2 месяца назад +36

    Me, a Wolfey fan: Zacian Zacian Zacian its Zacian

  • @ButterSpree
    @ButterSpree 2 месяца назад +43

    Glorious King Kyogre could never be on a list like this

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 2 месяца назад +4

      If they get rid of Water Spout from the whale then he definitely can go on the list, but he'd have to be dominating for such a hit to happen. Which means good ol' reliable rain boosted, stab boosted, Water Spouting Kyogre will remain untouched.

    • @ZAPRST8879
      @ZAPRST8879 2 месяца назад +4

      @@numberhunter62 if Miraidon can get away with it, the original stacking multipliers will get away with it (or people riot)

    • @grantdaily9662
      @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ButterSpreeuntil they give Water Spout to another high HP/SpAtk legendary with some ability that summons rain and gives it a Specs Boost to its SpAtk. Like imagine 120 HP 176 SpAtk + a Miraidon ability for rain, it's horrific

    • @grantdaily9662
      @grantdaily9662 2 месяца назад +2

      @@numberhunter62 not to mention the Terrastal and Specs Boost on said Kyogre

    • @ButterSpree
      @ButterSpree 2 месяца назад

      @@grantdaily9662 they will never do that cause Kyogre is King

  • @UltimateTrap421
    @UltimateTrap421 2 месяца назад +17

    The thumbnail being a call back to the "Pay to Win" video was a nice surprise

  • @fatyoshi696
    @fatyoshi696 2 месяца назад +27

    tbh i don't understand why game freak doesn't do patches, there's nothing stopping them from doing maybe minor adjustments for the really unbalanced stuff on a yearly basis or whenever a major content update like dlc happens, except that they probably don't really care enough about balance to warrant it

    • @SJrad
      @SJrad 2 месяца назад +10

      I know right? especially for scarlet and violet could have also used more bug fixes and optimization patches

    • @dbt4869
      @dbt4869 2 месяца назад

      Cuz it would be a nightmare

  • @Henkita2
    @Henkita2 2 месяца назад +21

    if you're wondering, the singles equivalent of biggest fall off... is snorlax, from top 3 in gen 1 (bar mew and mewtwo), to undisputed top 1 in gen 2, all the way to untiered in gen 9, poor snorlax

  • @TheFourthBlackReaper
    @TheFourthBlackReaper 2 месяца назад +7

    Snorlax being beat by the Ursalunas and Urshifus is so sad. When will the Bear on Bear violence end?

  • @typemasters2871
    @typemasters2871 2 месяца назад +5

    It is interesting how there are three main reasons a Pokemon falls off
    The first two being direct nerfs and general power creep is understandable but the third being “there’s a Pokemon that is just a direct upgrade” feels somewhat unique to competitive Pokemon
    Rotom getting a buff to it’s bulk would be nice
    Snorlax getting a normal type version of Hammer Arm, Crabhammer, or even High Horsepower would definitely help with a possible speed drop being a benefit in trick room

  • @antoniopriego5660
    @antoniopriego5660 2 месяца назад +12

    Palafin is a Gen 9 mon that got outclassed by the Gen 1 Gyarados my man got reverse powercrept

  • @Nethaura
    @Nethaura 2 месяца назад +15

    Ah yes, the four Tapus: Tapu Koko, Tapu Fini, Rillaboom, and Tapu Lele

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 2 месяца назад +4

      Tapu Bulu deserves to know Grassy Glide. I mean come on

    • @dbt4869
      @dbt4869 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Oscarus4250no that's a signature move

    • @dbt4869
      @dbt4869 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Oscarus4250give him a physical fairly move

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 2 месяца назад

      @@dbt4869 Grassy Glide has NEVER been a signature move. Lots of Grass Pokemon can learn it.

  • @MaahirMomtaz12
    @MaahirMomtaz12 2 месяца назад +63

    Give Snorlax Slack Off already lol

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 2 месяца назад +7

      no idea why to this day he STILL can't learn it cause its the perfect fit for snorlax due to how fitting it is

    • @duncanmartin9120
      @duncanmartin9120 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@bulborb8756 Maybe Game Freak thought it would be too good or something, which I'm not even sure it would. Yes, it would be better, but It wouldn't be too broken.

    • @SJrad
      @SJrad 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah way back when, i understand that it getting slack off would have been too strong despite how thematically fitting it is. but yeah now it should get it

    • @olafmikoaj3121
      @olafmikoaj3121 2 месяца назад

      Probably they want Snorlax to be associated primarly with Rest because it's a sleeping pokemon. And who would use Rest if there is a better option

  • @Hammerhead0276
    @Hammerhead0276 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent video as always good sir! As for Singles - off the top of my head - Tauros being only second to Mewtwo is RBY to being downright abysmal in GSC due to the Special Split is the most cataclysmic fall off I can think of.

  • @hlin834
    @hlin834 2 месяца назад +14

    0:15 maybe not the best example of adjusting for power creep.

    • @peeenguinne3858
      @peeenguinne3858 2 месяца назад +3

      They do adjust everyone to be better when there's a new character coming so at least it makes it manageable in GGST. If one character is busted, let's make other characters busted too. GF on the other hand barely touches old pokemons and let new ones wreck the meta game.

    • @nermomi
      @nermomi 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@peeenguinne3858Arcsys also loves to keep top tiers top tier

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 2 месяца назад

      @@peeenguinne3858ppl who say this stupid fucking bit really need to learn what busted means…

    • @headwaste5277
      @headwaste5277 2 месяца назад +1

      Rest in piece axl low

  • @DuckOfRubber3
    @DuckOfRubber3 2 месяца назад +5

    6:42 Landorus Therian staring at incineroar...

    • @nikzito2
      @nikzito2 2 месяца назад

      lando t is not outclassed by incin lmfao

    • @DuckOfRubber3
      @DuckOfRubber3 2 месяца назад

      @@nikzito2 Like I guess bc they have diff use cases but incin is the much more used intimidate pokemon (usually a team wouldn't have both)

  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta8351 2 месяца назад +1

    Rotom's fall from competitive grace is the real reason it spends most of its time these days as a phone. It had to go find a day job.

  • @ryanchristenson1059
    @ryanchristenson1059 2 месяца назад +2

    A bulky grass fairy is kinda unique, if bulu got a couple move changes I could see him having a niche use

  • @JustBagon
    @JustBagon 2 месяца назад +22

    0:14 guilty gear in a moxie video nice

  • @Eijiken
    @Eijiken 2 месяца назад +2

    Man's picked Strive where the developers said upon release "We made the character broken on purpose for plot reasons, we will properly balance him on the next patch"

  • @FunkyGaming44
    @FunkyGaming44 2 месяца назад +1

    The singles Equavilant would 100% include Pokemon like Tyranitar due to Gen 9, Tauros after Gen 1, Snorlax (again) with Gen 8 and 9, Mew after Gen 4, Deoxys Defense with Gen 9, and could make another case with Exeggutor

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ 2 месяца назад +1

    Today, just not being Untiered counts as a competitive accomplishment, with so many outstanding Pokémon not being viable for even RU.

  • @pezyg
    @pezyg 2 месяца назад +5

    Rotom-Washed 😔

  • @Petsinwinter2
    @Petsinwinter2 2 месяца назад +2

    3:05 turns out, all it needed to be toxic in singles was Ice STAB, who knew?

  • @pppiminnn123
    @pppiminnn123 2 месяца назад +1

    The largest single gen dropoff in singles is probably tauros gen 1->2 where it went from being the best mon in OU to unviable. This was mostly due to mechanics changes like the hyperbeam nerf and the splitting of the special stat.
    Over time it might be snorlax. It went from being the best mon in ubers in gen 2, to decent in ou in gen 3, to bad in gen 5 and now its running around in zu.

  • @zachuvgc8660
    @zachuvgc8660 2 месяца назад

    My favorite Regieleki era was during the qualifiers for the Player's Cup 4 where all the Japanese players were using Scarf Regieleki. I used Scarf Eleki for the rest of the season

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 2 месяца назад +2

    In singles the greatest fall is probably tauros, thing went from king to absolute nothing. Ttar is also high up there

  • @detectivemuffler8083
    @detectivemuffler8083 2 месяца назад +2

    Snorlax really is the saddest one. Going from one of the big normal types in Gen I alongside Chansey and Tauros, than Tier King in Gen II with Curselax, and even a reliable, if occasionally niche, high damage tank that especially gave special attackers a bad time with a strong 110 base Sp. Def, to one of the most unusable Pokemon in the game with every normal type in the higher tiers outdoing it and the relevance of brutal ghost, fighting and steel types severely limiting its power.

  • @WingedFish66
    @WingedFish66 2 месяца назад

    The pinch berries weren't introduced in gen VII, they were just massively buffed to the point where they might as well have been new items. From gen III-VI they only gave a measly 12.5% when at/below 50% HP

  • @UCDitto
    @UCDitto 2 месяца назад

    Imagine either Regional Variant Rotom, or a Rotom Evolution that permanently locks the appliance in, but gives a stat boost and a Terrain/ Weather Effect as an ability

  • @supermariomaker1734
    @supermariomaker1734 2 месяца назад

    I like the point that Archaladon is such a good counter to palafin it just one shots it to oblivion with electro shot in the rain. Archaladon benefits a lot from urshifus absence and it is a case that even lower powered formats could not save the dolphin. In regulation h Archaladon is one of the greatest Pokémon in competitive history. One of the things I liked about urshifus different forms was that they effectively shut it down because without rain both urshifus out speeds it and every move always crits so it does not matter how many times it’s defenses get buffed. But without urshifu Archaladon runs rampant in tournaments as a result because now you have to respect its stamina ability or in the global challange always assume that it has stamina cause you don’t want to be wrong about a Pokémon’s ability on closed teamsheet.

  • @takarijbartleby
    @takarijbartleby 2 месяца назад

    What each Rotom form got a unique ability?
    Rotom-Heat with Flash Fire/Well Baked Body/White Smoke, Rotom-Wash with Hydration/Storm Drain, Rotom-Frost with Refridgerate, Rotom-Fan with Wind Power/Wind Rider, and Rotom-Mow with Motor Drive/Seed Sower/Contrary/Sharpness/Harvest

  • @AceAviations2
    @AceAviations2 2 месяца назад +2

    Snorlax's falloff is even worse, in Nintendo Cup 2000 (Nintendo Cup being the predecessor to VGC in *that it was official,* and apparently aired on TV in Japan), much like in GSC OU and Ubers, *it was the strongest Pokémon of all-time* back then. GSC Snorlax was an unholy beast that you NEEDED to have if you wanted to win in GSC. So while it was crazy in Gen7 VGC, it's fall from grace is even worse than you make it out to be. This excerpt from the GSC Ubers page on Snorlax should give you an idea of how busted the guy was *"Snorlax's sole presence warps the entire metagame around it, forcing teams to pack not only one but multiple answers for it...",* remember that this is in the same tier as f**king Mewtwo and Mew.
    I'll close this with the Smogon description of GSC Snorlax for OU. Pretty much everything here applies to the Nintendo Cup format which was 3v3 with Species and Item Clause was well as what would later be Restricted and Mythicals being banned.
    "Behold, the single most dominant Pokemon in any OU tier in history. Snorlax combines power and resilience with deadly unpredictability, a set of traits that lands it a spot on virtually all serious teams. *Its presence defines the GSC metagame,* all but forcing teams to play one or more sturdy Normal-resistant Pokemon while simultaneously killing off the viability of manifold special attackers with its enormous HP and sky-high Special Defense. Snorlax is a constant threat to offensive teams as a Curse sweeper, a team sweeping machine as a Belly Drum user, a relentless battering ram as a mixed attacker, and a reliable wall as a RestTalk user. However, it isn't completely unstoppable. Snorlax's Defense stat is on the low side, meaning that despite its massive HP stat, Explosion from common OU Pokemon like Cloyster and Exeggutor is enough to take it out with minimal prior damage. It will usually be forced to use Rest if it gets poisoned, giving the opposing team a reprieve that they can use to gain an advantage. Defensive teams will nearly always have Skarmory for Snorlax and usually pair it with a semi-reliable counter to mixed Snorlax as well, which can sometimes leave Snorlax unable to do any meaningful damage by itself. However, make no mistake: these constitute but minor flaws among Snorlax's array of overwhelmingly powerful attributes."

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 2 месяца назад

      Also it was in the top 3 best Pokemon in Gen 1.

  • @ciaranpatrick6859
    @ciaranpatrick6859 2 месяца назад

    This gen has had a lot of big falloff’s in singles. Toxapex is a notable one since it lost access to scald and knock off which makes it way more passive and it can become setup fodder.

  • @juanjvelazquez2595
    @juanjvelazquez2595 2 месяца назад +1

    I know he mentioned it got banned in singles but im surprised he didn’t mention how in singles Regieleki’s jump from gen 8 to gen 9 was the opposite of its VGC experience as it went from not being viable in OU to being almost instant banned to Ubers.
    Why? Terastalization and coverage. Went from pretty much having no coverage outside of its electric attacks to having the best offensive combination of ice and electric if it terastalizes to ice.

  • @vision4860
    @vision4860 2 месяца назад +4

    10:56 Bro Snorlax IS a bear though

  • @garchompelago
    @garchompelago 2 месяца назад

    In Sword in Shield VGC, I had to run a Lightining Rod(Most of Regieleki's moves are electric) Raichu with Feint (to destroy Regieleki Focus Sash)

  • @RBDSTN
    @RBDSTN 2 месяца назад +2

    Moxie Boosted channel is not a safe space for Aaron Zheng

  • @jg1404
    @jg1404 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow I can’t believe Delcatty had a massive fall off, I could never have predicted this

  • @slimestudios9748
    @slimestudios9748 2 месяца назад

    i think a funny (if kinda sad) contender for Singles would be Deoxys-Defense. it's been a slow one for sure, but that guy was the second best Deoxys in ADV and was slowly falling off in Ubers up until it got canned from Galar, and now in Gen 9 it's like RUBL or something
    also Snorlax from Gens 1-3 to now but you mentioned that one

  • @brrboy6
    @brrboy6 24 дня назад

    I really hope gen 10 lowers the power ceiling alot, regulation H was super fun

  • @amphareixon
    @amphareixon 2 месяца назад

    For singles theres a couple of fall offs this gen, salamence, Magnezone, tyranitar, deoxys defense, toxapex, terrakion, staraptor and list could go on for long

  • @superj1010
    @superj1010 2 месяца назад +10

    Bro that thumbnail is so funny I almost choked on my apple

  • @maagic2031
    @maagic2031 2 месяца назад

    For singles, I would highlight Keldeo. That thing used to be so scary with Hydro Pump in the rain. In fact. Keldeo is usually one of the key mons brought up for why defense isn’t very strong in Gen 5 OU, trying to play a slow game against Keldeo is stupid. It is arguably defines rain as a playstyle more than politoed, the pokemon setting the rain.
    Move to Gen 6 and literally nothing good happened to Keldeo. Rain was limited, fairies got introduced and a similarly powerful pokemon that could do its job, manaphy, got unbanned. It still hung on to OU but went from being THE threat to more niche.
    Then Gen 7 happened and everything went to hell. If Keldeo got slowed by Clefable, the tapus and Magearna getting added to that eas just a cruel and unusual punishment. Not to mention, Toxapex. The defining defensive Pokemon that basically half of all viable teams wanted to use was outright impervious to Keldeo. And of course, we now have the second gen in a row where a banned Pokemon who competed with Keldeo got unbanned. Pelipper made Rain meta again in Gen 7 and you somehow never see Keldeo because Greninja and Manaphy outclass it ridiculously hard as special sweeper, punishing offensive and defensive teams respectively. Keldeo went from the main villain to sideshow really quickly.

  • @bugorgans
    @bugorgans 2 месяца назад

    GUILTY GEAR COUNTER AND SONIC ADVENTURE MENTIONED IN THE SAME SEGMENT WITH SPLATOON MUSIC RIGHT AFTER YAAAAAY

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar 2 месяца назад

    My favorite Pokemon of all time is Mow Rotom, but the one I have the most experience in using is Crobat. I remember the days when we could outspeed everything… now we’ve got stealth bomber salamanders and bouncy neurons hogging all the limelight.
    Then again, it’s hard to outspeed anything when you’re not even in the ‘Dex. Couldn’t outspeed the cuts :,)

  • @BlazingCyberKnight95
    @BlazingCyberKnight95 2 месяца назад

    Someday in the future, we will get a 2 hour video on the fall of Sneasler and why it deserved to fall

  • @Primum
    @Primum 2 месяца назад +1

    Sonic Adventure 2 music during Rotom, nice!

  • @arafzaman760
    @arafzaman760 2 месяца назад

    Another prime example I would give is Thunderus. It was the most nerfed mon in history. As of gen 9 Thunderus is considered a niche pick by many players

  • @WTPokemonToons-rk7ci
    @WTPokemonToons-rk7ci 2 месяца назад

    Sadly, Rotom Fan / Ice has been relegated to the clearance shelf from the very beginning

  • @cakeyonalt
    @cakeyonalt 2 месяца назад +1

    Thumbnail goes so hard, especially on Black Friday week no less

  • @AstralKat
    @AstralKat 2 месяца назад

    Arguably the biggest fall off is Thunderous, due to prankster in gen 5 being STUPIDLY busted as well as a lot of status nerfs coming in gen 6, gen 5 thunderous would just dominate the field as a support mon with taunt, thunderwave and basically any other status move it could run, but now thanks to the ridiculous nerfs that its toolkit took, it's the least used of the 4 genies by a wide margin

  • @supermariomaker1734
    @supermariomaker1734 2 месяца назад

    Pokémon is that type of game where you have to constantly change your teams and the Pokémon on them to stay relevant and that’s what makes competitive Pokémon interesting. Nothing lasts forever as this list shows.

  • @Ahbutcocnut
    @Ahbutcocnut 2 месяца назад

    Snorlax probaly also has one of the highest single drop offs from being insanely good in gen 2 to being ni where in get 9

  • @cornonjacob
    @cornonjacob 2 месяца назад

    The most extreme falloff in singles would probably be Tauros, but gen 1 is essentially a different game, don't think it's fair to count it. Speed boost Blaziken is a big one, ubers for multiple gens but is now UU I think; Deoxys speed and/or defense (can't remember which fully fell off) were also Ubers for many gens but are now UU or below. Weavile at the beginning of gen 9 went from being one of the best mons in gen 8 OU to being ok in like RU; lost its most important moves and was fully outclassed by chien pao in every way, luckily got its moves back and chien pao was banned, so I think it's solid now. I'm sure there are plenty more, but those are ones I could think of

  • @xanderhouff1471
    @xanderhouff1471 2 месяца назад

    I love your channel. It feels like my brother's and I just yapping about Pokemon together ❤

  • @Ward_bbx_art
    @Ward_bbx_art 2 месяца назад

    In Singles, Tauros was the first HUGE dropoff, i thought you would mention it

  • @backpackerraden6268
    @backpackerraden6268 2 месяца назад

    Politoed, Kingdra and Ludicolo would have probably been a trio I'd throw on here.
    Latios also tanked a ton over the years, especially considering it was nowhere near the same level of dominance it was in Gen V
    Oh and Thundurus

  • @TheLastSheikah
    @TheLastSheikah 2 месяца назад

    Hitmontop going from a top meta threat throughout all of Gen 5 to nobody even remembering it exists in Gen 6.. I miss him

  • @psychosaurus1554
    @psychosaurus1554 2 месяца назад

    "Man powercreep has gotten too much I wish gamefreak would nerf some of these threats"
    Gamefreak: Say no more *nerfs Snorlax*

  • @qwoz2327
    @qwoz2327 2 месяца назад

    Ttar would probably be the biggest fall in singles, the loss of pursuit highkey gutted it and it has had drops to RU in gen 9

  • @irontrids
    @irontrids 2 месяца назад

    Till this day, I still wonder why Rain and Sunlight gets to keep 50% boost still to water and fire type moves, respectively, after all this time. While most environmental sets (Terrains) and Transistor gets nerfed from 50% to 30%.

  • @tonberry2670
    @tonberry2670 2 месяца назад

    Mew is the poster child for singles meta falloff. Uber tiered for the first four generations of the game, only to go all the way into Underused. Between gens 5-8, it fluctuated between OU and UU, and then Gen 9 came around and dragged it all the way to NUBL.
    In a similar vein, Deoxys-Defense was Uber for 7 straight generations, got dexited and then returned in generation 9 as another NUBL mon

  • @IsaacMansy
    @IsaacMansy 2 месяца назад +8

    Ironically, Snorlax had one of the biggest fall offs in singles too. It went from the best OU Pokémon in gen 2 to whatever it is now.

    • @bulborb8756
      @bulborb8756 2 месяца назад +5

      sure the low speed is one thing but Snorlax has good bulk to make up for it, the problem is his consistent lack of recovery, why he STILL cannot learn slack off is just stupid when it makes perfect sense for him to learn it unlike infernape

  • @timothynelson4785
    @timothynelson4785 2 месяца назад

    In singles, Toxapex.
    Clodsire is the more popular pick for that sort of stall mode now.

  • @Peng_D3
    @Peng_D3 2 месяца назад

    Biggest singles fall-off of all time has to be Weavile in BDSP. It lost its 2 best STABs in Triple Axel and Knock Off, plus its best coverage in Low Kick. Not to mention that the first year of Scarlet and Violet was rough for it with the addition of Chien-Pao as a direct upgrade to it

  • @HeliumHasPassed
    @HeliumHasPassed 2 месяца назад +22

    Please gamefreak give us a new PLAYABLE rotom appliance I need an electric steel levitating rotom car

    • @UnchainedPandoran
      @UnchainedPandoran 2 месяца назад +1

      I want an Electric/Poison Blender Rotom.

    • @HeliumHasPassed
      @HeliumHasPassed 2 месяца назад +2

      @UnchainedPandoran what about an Electric/Earth Drill rotom

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 2 месяца назад +1

      Even a levitating hoverbike

    • @HeliumHasPassed
      @HeliumHasPassed 2 месяца назад

      @@nousername191 that’s also a good idea

    • @ShouPow
      @ShouPow 2 месяца назад

      ​@@nousername191 hover bike sounds sick! And it could be the ride Pokemon for gen 10

  • @ProtonVGC
    @ProtonVGC 2 месяца назад +1

    My mans missed lando-T (but tbf Wolfe already has a wideo all about it).

  • @demilettucee3657
    @demilettucee3657 2 месяца назад

    I’m surprised Zacian wasn’t mentioned here. It was an absolute monster back when Dynamax was a thing, but the nerfs it got coming into Gen 9 absolutely spiral Zacian down to irrelevancy.

  • @_sorbetunderscore
    @_sorbetunderscore 2 месяца назад

    I think a good video idea would be the yugiohfication of Pokémon, in that as time goes on things get not only more powerful but more complicated (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing imo)

  • @joe_the_zombie
    @joe_the_zombie 2 месяца назад +1

    Best thumbnail I've seen in a long time🤣

  • @kalosianporygon
    @kalosianporygon 2 месяца назад

    Before I watched this video, I forgot Rotom has such a low HP stat.

  • @marcelosandoval8719
    @marcelosandoval8719 2 месяца назад +1

    11:10 Chieng Pao AKA Mega Weavile is just better
    At least Chieng Pao is now banned

  • @blizz6463
    @blizz6463 2 месяца назад

    Man no wonder Rotoms taken a break as my cell phone shits rough for our lil ghost

  • @pokeperson1000
    @pokeperson1000 2 месяца назад

    either the oven and the fan in the thumbnail are *HUGE,* or the rest of the appliances are tiny. Either way, it's cute.

  • @omarmoi6752
    @omarmoi6752 2 месяца назад

    Regieleki, along with every electric type, for some reason lost access to the TM Rising Voltage. Eliminating my favorite set.
    Except for Raging Bolt for some reason

  • @shironeko1843
    @shironeko1843 2 месяца назад

    Yo, the Sonic Rush music in the background! Love it.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 2 месяца назад

    0:17 Me waiting for Meganium's buff
    3:56 Other than intimidate, Palafin could run Flying tera, 4:06 Another reason to go Flying tera so you can deal with these two.
    10:05 I feel like they could bring back Return considering how much stronger moves they been pumping out recently. Like Gigaton Hammer and Bloodmoon, both 160-ish power on a moderately balanced Tinkaton and super strong Bloodmoon Ursaluna.

  • @trainerrichard6859
    @trainerrichard6859 2 месяца назад

    A singles fall off has to be the tragic tale of terrakion.😢

  • @skwid6483
    @skwid6483 2 месяца назад

    Who would win in the Fraud Allegations Contest, Deku and his quirk All For Nothing or Palafin and its ability Hero to Zero

  • @TanatatKnight246
    @TanatatKnight246 2 месяца назад

    My boy Snorlax :(
    May the lax find it's inner Gen II power, born from it's second father in Kōji Nishino, to once again find a way to dominate the world.

  • @KAITObubblegum
    @KAITObubblegum 2 месяца назад +1

    Ill be honest, i think landorus therian could've made this list

  • @ar.71944
    @ar.71944 2 месяца назад

    I'm waiting for all the regi's to assemble and become one giant megazord

  • @goGothitaLOL
    @goGothitaLOL 2 месяца назад

    Singles:
    Talonflame - do I need to say it?
    Gengar - do I also need to say it? + Dragapult existing the gen after
    Greninja - isn’t it obvious? and also Ash-Greninja: the form is gone
    Metagross (non-mega) - what Ghost and Dark being neutral to Steel does to a motherfucker, the buffed Knock Off and more broken ghost-types also didn’t help matters
    Breloom - Power Creep, fairy-types like Tapus and Iron Valiant, 70 Spe and none-existent bulk being more and more of a eyesore over the years, and if all that isn’t enough the Gen 9 OU sleep ban (thanks Darkrai and Iron Valiant)
    Blaziken - 3 words: Heavy-Duty Boots, 4 more words: Hidden Power is gone. Not even the additions of Close Combat and U-Turn can offset the drop-off from fucking Uber to UU(BL). And I didn’t even mentioned Uber power creep by gen 8.
    Garchomp - Landorus-T and fairy-types are one thing, but lots of competition is another. Between Roaring Moon and Baxcalibur (pre-ban) from dragon side, Great Tusk, Ursaluna, and Ting-Lu from the ground side, and Iron Valiant (and pre-ban Flutter Mane + Iron Bundle) outspeeding it. Garchomp can’t take it anymore dropped to UU(BL) for the first time. Had a good run tho.
    Blissey - Lost Toxic, Lost Teleport not long after gen 8, recovery max PP reduced in half from 16 to 8
    Toxapex - Lost Scald, Lost Knock Off, recovery max PP reduced by half from 16 to 8 and General power creep across the boar. Surprise it hung in OU for as long as it did
    Tyranitar - Between general power creep (again), competition from Kingambit, Ting-Lu, Chien-Pao (pre-ban), and even Garganacl, sand not being what it used to be, not being to Tera to anything but Rock/Ground/Steel, and the final nail in the coffin Great Tusk being one of if not the most used pokémon in gen 9 OU whiling also power creeping Excadrill in the process, it is beyond Joever for Tyranitar, had a good run tho
    I may be missing a few but can’t pinpoint why they have fallen (mostly many Gen 4-6 OU mons that are now RU, if not NU or even PU), but these are the biggest ones from my head

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 2 месяца назад

      What does Boots have to do with Blaziken’s drop-off?

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 2 месяца назад

    I feel like the Tapus weren't in Gen 9 in order to make Miraidon & Koraidon stronger by removing potential counters

  • @gabrielcarvalhoseixas3112
    @gabrielcarvalhoseixas3112 2 месяца назад

    6:56 final rush Sonic Adventure 2

  • @C00LB0B77
    @C00LB0B77 2 месяца назад

    Is it just me or did gen 7 vgc (and gen 8 a little but not nearly as much) feel really fun and unique with its meta game?