Wo chien givin off buggy vibes. Not to powerful but is surrounded by some of the best so is assumed to be strong from people that don’t know much about him
I cant identify you ting lu is supposed to be, Chi yu is Zoro, and Wo chien is Teech Edit: nevermind I just realized it's the 4 emperor's, and it's shanks not zoro
You know what's funny about Extreme Speed...it's literally Quick Attack, but double. Quick Attack: 40 BP and +1 Priority Extreme Speed: 80 BP and +2 Priority
Now im imagining these guys getting insane buff, but what could they be? A mix of stat buffs, ability buffs, and better mocepool? At least to make them fun to play with.
Wo-Chien really feels like it was purposefully designed to be a counter to Urshifu-R, it's just a shame that as a Dark type Urshifu can just click Close Combat and still likely nuke it if banded. Imagine if this thing got Matcha Gotcha for spread damage, healing, and burn chance, it'd be an absolute terror.
It would be soooo much better if it was poison/dark type but they probably already conceived the kitakami legends. The design could have been the same exceot have poisin ivy/oak in its body
@@victorlinares4137it would be top tier if it was Dark/Poison instead. In fact, it would effectively have no weaknesses thanks to its ability weakening ground moves (which are physical most of the time). Such a wasted opportunity. There is 0 point in having slow grass/dark types.
I really like this trend of a group of legendaries that each have a different variation of the same ability. It gives the group a really memorable gimmick, and at the same time gives each of the Pokémon their own personality.
Since Kanto zapdos has static, and there's already flame body for Moltres, Articuno getting a new ability for freezing pokemons that make contact with it would be extremely funny. The lake trio could also get new abilities. Mesprit - all moves become spread moves. Uxie - all moves except OHKO have 85% accuracy Azelf - all moves have 100 Base Power
@@DJayPhresh everyone runs priority anyways, it puts Azelf itself in dangel if being one shot by an opponent's 100 BP fake out or something. Maybe for multi-hit moves it could work differently I don't know.
3:25 This image is truly speaking my language. It will never not be funny to me having these two as my favorites and seeing all the jokes and even sometimes art on Twitter with these two being besties. Absolute serotonin injection fr
@@olafmikoaj3121 how did you count those. Did you leave out the ones which feature a mythical Pokémon (which would invalidate OP‘s comment). Did you leave out the ones which had four members, but then got new ones added in a later game. Or what about the opposite, trios which got a fourth member later on. Or trios who have a „higher ranking member/leader“. How do you handle Pokémon with different forms, like Necrozma, Zygarde and Kyurem. Are you going by the lore or strictly by wether or not you could catch all four in the same game. In Sun and Moon, you could only catch 4 Ultra Beasts per game. What about them. What are the rules. Which ones do you cut, and which ones do you leave in. If we’re being just a bit lenient, we have… The useless trio + Pecharunt/Ogerpon (depending on your personal evaluation) The Treasures of Ruin The Swords of Justice + Keldeo (the ones OP was referring to) The Lake trio + Cresselia The Creation Trio + Arceus The Weather Trio + Enamorous The Guardians of Alola Necrozma is his own quartet So is Zygarde, if we count his single celled form The Regis (pre gen 8) The elemental birds + Lugia The elemental dogs + Ho-Oh Even if we leave out the mythicals (again, which is something that we cannot do), we still have about 9 or 10, depending on who you recognize as the 4th member of the useless quartet. If we also leave out the Regis, since they now have 6 members, that still leaves us with 8 or 9 quartets. If we leave out mons with multiple forms, then we have 6 or 7. If we leave out those that span multiple generations, then we have 3 or 4. If we leave out those with a defined leader, then we only have 2. So what is it
@@KeDe1606 Half of your list is made of cuartets with mithical pokemon, legendaries only assosiated in lore not in game and idk where you took lake trio + cresselia from. Legendary pokemon which form a cuartet by similiar typings, similiar form of obtaining and being treated by the game are Treasures of ruin, Tapus and Genies.
@@olafmikoaj3121 have you actually played the gen 4 games? The lake trio + Cresselia tick literally every single possible box as to what counts as a quartet. Obtainable in the same game ✅ Share a type between all 4 members ✅ You obtain them in a very similar fashion ✅ Share the same niche during gameplay ✅ None of them are mythical ✅ They are all connected via the lore ✅ They are as much of a quartet as the other ones you mentioned. Same goes for the Regis. You can catch them all in the same game (in fact, you need to catch the first three in order to get Regigigas), they share similar niches during gameplay, and they are connected via the lore. The only thing they don‘t share is a common type. But that doesn’t matter. You wouldn’t say that the legendary dogs shouldn’t be considered a trio because they lack a common type. Same goes for the gen 3 weather trio. Or the Darkest Day trio. Or whatever Kalos‘ trio is called. I could continue this whole thing with the useless quartet, and the dogs + Ho-Oh as well. Meanwhile, the genies were originally meant to be a trio. The idea of making them into a quartet came later on. Enamorous connection to the other three is in every regard strenuous at best, non-existent at worst. You literally just called them the weather genies. What kind of weather is love? Why do they count and the others don’t. Why do mythical Pokémon not count? Keldeo and Pecharunt very clearly belong to the Swords of Justice and useless trio respectively. They came out during the same generation, share a common type, fulfill similar niches during gameplay, share the same ability, are connected via the lore etc. etc. Your „criteria“ here are just arbitrary, contradictory, unnecessarily restrictive, and just straight-up do not make any sense.
A little off-topic... But does anyone else think that maybe they keep adding _too many_ legendaries? Like, maybe I'm just crazy, but we have so many already, and Scarlet and Violet added a whopping *12* if you count the DLC (Koraidon, Miraidon, Ting-Lu, Chien-Pao, Wo-Chien, Chi-Yu, Ogerpon, Okidogi, Munkidori, Fezandipiti, Terapagos, AND Pecharunt)! They just don't feel quite as special as they used to.
Generation III added 8. Only Kalos had their 3. But other than that, there have been a lot of them in every generation. So, it's nothing new. And Gen IV and V had tons of mythical as well.
As someone whose name is also Marcos, that sudden praise for the mysterious handsome fella running Ting Lu + Gouging Fire caught me off guard 💥 It's shit like this why I enjoy your content so much lmao (totally not biased)
5:09 Moxie: "Like a pokemon shouldn't be able to do this much damage with a neutral attack" Miraidon on Electric terrain: "Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"
Incidentally, I did have an abandoned fangame writeup where the player would need to defeat at least one Treasure of Ruin in order to get it and block out the villain's psychic power with it. For each one, I had an effect attached to it: Chien-Pao: Gets a few raid shields (like in gen 8, but without actually dynamaxing). It can use Swords Dance. That's all it needs. Chi-Yu: Steals three of your Revives, and uses them when it gets KO'd. Hope you like Overheat! Ting-Lu: Immune to almost all damage, but slowly "leaks" hp; you have to survive while keeping it from healing too much with its Shell Bell. Wo-Chien: type changes to resist your current Pokémon's STAB moves.
The Quartet was supposed to be even stronger than they are today. Before the official release all the mons had higher stats. Chien Pao had 10 more attack, Chi Yu had 10 more spatk and the bulky ones had even more bulk. GF probably realized they were going to be way too broken and toned them down before we even got to see how broken they’d truly be.
Interesting how the Treasures of Ruin and the Guardian Deities are kind of similar: Fast Physical Attacker - Koko, ChienPao (Granted, Koko leant more into Special in VGC but Base Stats wise those two match up) Special Attacker - Lele, ChiYu Bulky Tank - Fini, TingLu Worst of the bunch - Bulu, WoChien (Both are Grass Type)
2:37 if you do add up the raw numbers you'd get a mon with a stat spread of: HP - 387 Attack - 490 Defense - 460 Sp Attack - 366 Sp Defense - 391 Speed - 366 And that's just the Base stats!
I have been playing with Specs Kyogre and have learned that Tera Water, Helping Hand (from Farigaraf), Rain+specs boosted, Modest, one shots Amoongus and Raging Bolt with Water spout. It’s insane how many games I can get away with because most people don’t play around it. Wo-chien would live it for sure, such a tanky unit!
Love the attention to detail in the thumbnail art. Ting Liu is the one with the longest nose, thus Buggy, Chi Yu has a red tipped fin, therefore Shanks, Wo Chien destroys everything around it like a foliage-based black hole, so Blackbeard, and Chien Pao is white like Gear 5
fun fact chi-yu with beads of ruin factored in without any other boosts is equivalent to having base 197 special attack. very fair and balanced individual :)
Geez... watching Pokemon battles in gen 9 reminds me how SLOW it all is. Really hope Game Freak puts serious effort into updating combat flow & speeds things along to match modern JRPGs.
I feel like if they’re gonna make abilities as powerful as these ones, they’d have to do the opposite effect; positive stat multipliers for the Pokemon and their partner. Maybe it could be spread to ALL Pokemon on the field like these guys do with theirs, but it’d be SIGNIFICANTLY stronger if it was exclusive to your side.
What’s crazy is that I think in a 4 vs 4 of the Treasures of Ruin against the Tapus, the Treasures would probably win even with the type disadvantage just because they’re just that dang OP
I think you are wrong about what happens when all 4 are on the field because each Ruin ability does not work on those who have that same specific Ruin ability. For example, Wo-Chien would not lower his own attack but would hit extra hard with Physical moves like Foul Play on Ting-Lu and Chi-Yu due to Chien-Pao's Sword of Ruin lowering their Defence. But he would not hit Chien Pao harder with Physical attacks because Chien Pao does not lower his own Defence.
Not gonna lie, Plusle and Minum could get a mega with an ability that auto Megas the other one with the plus and minus abilities respectively stapled on
2:23 This isn’t TECHNICALLY true, right? Because they don’t apply the changes to themselves. Everyone would have all debuffs BESIDE their own. Ironically, this would make Chien-Pao feel Physically bulkier, Ting-Lu specially stronger, Chi-Yu specially bulkier, and Wo-Chien physically stronger.
I know the thumbnail is a reference to the emperors in one piece and chi yu, being red most corresponds to shanks. But it still bothers me that it has a sword in the thumbnail despite being a special attacker and chien pao being the one who has _sword_ of ruin for its ability
2:22 am I missing something? In my mind a physical attack from a wo chien or a special attack from ting lu would do more damage than usual to either of the others. It doesn't seem like they cancel out at all
2:20 wait, is that actually how it works? The pokemon are immune to their own ability, so I thought that meant each one would have 25% more of whatever stat it lowers relative to the others. So Ting Liu would have more special attack due to it not lowering it's own special attack, while Chi Yu has more special defense for the same reason, leaving everything else neutral on the special side
I got a question, how are physical attackers more prevalent than special ones this gen with stuff like intimidate and burn? Plus rough skin, rocky helmet, etc, I feel like there’s more against physical attackers than what special ones have to deal with
I dont keep up with comp pokemon but the fact that a move that always crits, multihits, and damage cant be lowered by conventional means isnt banned is mind boggling
Video Idea: Is tarastilisation going to be a core mechanic moving forward? Or will only certain Pokemon be able to use it? Ogerpom and Terapogos comes to mind. Interesting to see what Pokémon’s will benefit the most with it gone and which ones suffer.
i don't care if wo chien is bad, they're my special snail friend, and we're going to go eat tomatoes together. the rest of you can have your battles, endlessly laboring to determine who is best, but we're having a little treat and a nice walk.
It took 29 frames for Incineroar to appear in this video.
Not a Wolfey video, but he's the one who sent out Incineroar so it still counts.
Bro😂 hahahaha love your comment
This Pokemon has made such a massive impact for VGCtube and I love it.
arm acthually it took 121 frames 🤓
@@mystery_mr.y it took that long for incineroar himself to appear, but 29 frames for the name "Incineroar" to appear
15 frames for the name, 100 for the pokemon
Give that thumbnail Artist a damn raise
Not too big a raise because they made Blackbeard Wo Chien.
Wo chien givin off buggy vibes. Not to powerful but is surrounded by some of the best so is assumed to be strong from people that don’t know much about him
Yeah I was trying to figure out the inspirations for each of the little pictures. WO Chein does seem to be blackbeard but I don't know.
@@mysterymastermind175 it is blackbeard, art is directly based off the 4 emperors art.
@@JanizMakudomaru switch buggy (Ting Lu) with Blackbeard (Wo Chien) and it would have been perfect.
My name is Chien D. Pao and I will be the king of vgc
And we recently found out that there was a prototype Luffy from '94 called Monkey D. Pao
Monkey D. Luffy is a Nika…
They knew what they were doing
Or Bao D. Jian
Damn, either in localized form or proper pinyin form it rolls off the tongue regardless....
Damn bastard Baojian
I cant identify you ting lu is supposed to be, Chi yu is Zoro, and Wo chien is Teech
Edit: nevermind I just realized it's the 4 emperor's, and it's shanks not zoro
Does the D stand for D-tier?
You know what's funny about Extreme Speed...it's literally Quick Attack, but double.
Quick Attack: 40 BP and +1 Priority
Extreme Speed: 80 BP and +2 Priority
I'll forever be surprised by the fact that Ash's Pikachu never got Extreme Speed.
Denko senka- lightning speed
Shinsoku- God speed
You can see how it progresses
Fun fact : extreme speed didn't have a 2+ priority at its beginning.
On gen 17 they'll release super extreme speed with 160 BP and +4 priority. And nobody will run it because power creep.
@@diegosep.4201yeah by then that move will basically do no damage
Me and Oda personally cooked the Thumbnail up for yall cuz it's been a minute since I dropped a banger 😤🔥💯
🐐
Good job on the thumbnail. Creative.
Thanks for matching up the best emperor with the best ruin. I will not say which one I mean.
Goated
Love seeing other one piece fans
Incineroar: nah I’d win
He wood win
Nice try, Krookadile. Go back to RU
RAAAAAH I LOVE GOATCINEROAR
Incineroar is like the gojo of pokemon
@horriblenuzlokes You have clearly never played VGC. NEVER
Krookadile, houndoom, Shiftry and weavile got major depression when these 4 became legal.
Atleast shiftry and krookadile can have some niches different from ting-lu and wo-chien. Weavile and houdoom are just cooked😭
Houndoom already had depression after loosing it's mega
Weavile: He copied my whole fucking flow, move by move, stat by stat
Cacturne cries in corner
Now im imagining these guys getting insane buff, but what could they be? A mix of stat buffs, ability buffs, and better mocepool? At least to make them fun to play with.
Wo Chien’s ability lowers ELO by 25%
Nah mate, its TO 25% 😭
Nah Wo Chein kyorge is really really strong rn
And it was top 5 NAIC
@@MrIsleNFairTO?!
Wo-Chien really feels like it was purposefully designed to be a counter to Urshifu-R, it's just a shame that as a Dark type Urshifu can just click Close Combat and still likely nuke it if banded. Imagine if this thing got Matcha Gotcha for spread damage, healing, and burn chance, it'd be an absolute terror.
It would be soooo much better if it was poison/dark type but they probably already conceived the kitakami legends. The design could have been the same exceot have poisin ivy/oak in its body
idk what else typing it couldve been, the dark type is necessary
I thought wo chien was hard to remove due to the lack of bug types
@duckymomo7935 its 4x weak to bug so any non-stan u-turn ( a very common move) yeets it
@@victorlinares4137EASILY ! 💯
@@victorlinares4137it would be top tier if it was Dark/Poison instead. In fact, it would effectively have no weaknesses thanks to its ability weakening ground moves (which are physical most of the time). Such a wasted opportunity. There is 0 point in having slow grass/dark types.
I really like this trend of a group of legendaries that each have a different variation of the same ability. It gives the group a really memorable gimmick, and at the same time gives each of the Pokémon their own personality.
Since Kanto zapdos has static, and there's already flame body for Moltres, Articuno getting a new ability for freezing pokemons that make contact with it would be extremely funny.
The lake trio could also get new abilities. Mesprit - all moves become spread moves.
Uxie - all moves except OHKO have 85% accuracy
Azelf - all moves have 100 Base Power
@@dr.tafazzi turning ice body into a chance to freeze woukd be AMAZING
@@dr.tafazziAll Moves have 100BP is fucking insane. Just priority spam out the wazoo, or multihit moves to break walls.
@@DJayPhresh everyone runs priority anyways, it puts Azelf itself in dangel if being one shot by an opponent's 100 BP fake out or something. Maybe for multi-hit moves it could work differently I don't know.
@@dr.tafazzi Urshifu with (effectively) 300BP Surging Strikes and 100BP Aqua Jet.
I like how all these guys are large menacing beasts... And then one of them is a goldfish XD
Yami from Okami says hi.
A goldfish that canonically can swim through land by melting it
The most terrifying of them all
Respect Hans and his Beads of Ruin
And the goldfish is the scariest one.
Perhaps the real treasure is all the ruin we've made along the way.
Yes
You were dying to talk about Wo Chien
LIVE WO CHIEN REACTION????
There designs are all so good they are allowed to be OP
Fair
These 4 Legendaries just makes you realise that the One Ruin Treasure is Real
Can we get much higher?
So high~
*ohhhhh* *ohhhhhhhh* *oh* *oh*
Whitebeard
What OP character is ting lu
3:25 This image is truly speaking my language. It will never not be funny to me having these two as my favorites and seeing all the jokes and even sometimes art on Twitter with these two being besties. Absolute serotonin injection fr
“While Justin tang and Marcos Perez would ultimately day 2 the international championships…”
Insert the Obama medal image here
And remember these 4 Pokémon were NERFED day 1. Their bst was dropped by 10 points.
Bro tried to sneak in Wo chien😭
Lmao is that the new Yonko art?
Yep, Buggy The Lu, Red Haired Chi Yu, Marshal D. Wo Chien, and Monkey D. Pao
The One Piece is real
@@roymendez9054 Can we get much higher?
@@drooprtroopr6969 Monkey D. Pao was unironically the beta name for Luffy some years before the manga started lmao
9:15 “this is because physical attackers are the name of the game” proceeds to show all special attackers😂😂😂
Bro I am terrified of the ruinous quartet being in a game where you can’t change your type in some way
Who knew that all the snail needed to become good was to just add water?
That Four Emperors thumbnail is FIREEE!
That Thumbnail is the greatest work of art I've ever witnessed.
You should do this, but for each generation
That thumbnail goes hard 🔥🔥🔥
I just realized how similar to two legendary quartets are. They both share a type with each other and dominate a format(except the grass one.)
There are like 12 legendary quartets by this point. You have to be a bit more specific than that
@@KeDe1606Only 3
@@olafmikoaj3121 how did you count those. Did you leave out the ones which feature a mythical Pokémon (which would invalidate OP‘s comment). Did you leave out the ones which had four members, but then got new ones added in a later game. Or what about the opposite, trios which got a fourth member later on. Or trios who have a „higher ranking member/leader“. How do you handle Pokémon with different forms, like Necrozma, Zygarde and Kyurem. Are you going by the lore or strictly by wether or not you could catch all four in the same game. In Sun and Moon, you could only catch 4 Ultra Beasts per game. What about them. What are the rules. Which ones do you cut, and which ones do you leave in.
If we’re being just a bit lenient, we have…
The useless trio + Pecharunt/Ogerpon (depending on your personal evaluation)
The Treasures of Ruin
The Swords of Justice + Keldeo (the ones OP was referring to)
The Lake trio + Cresselia
The Creation Trio + Arceus
The Weather Trio + Enamorous
The Guardians of Alola
Necrozma is his own quartet
So is Zygarde, if we count his single celled form
The Regis (pre gen 8)
The elemental birds + Lugia
The elemental dogs + Ho-Oh
Even if we leave out the mythicals (again, which is something that we cannot do), we still have about 9 or 10, depending on who you recognize as the 4th member of the useless quartet. If we also leave out the Regis, since they now have 6 members, that still leaves us with 8 or 9 quartets. If we leave out mons with multiple forms, then we have 6 or 7. If we leave out those that span multiple generations, then we have 3 or 4. If we leave out those with a defined leader, then we only have 2. So what is it
@@KeDe1606 Half of your list is made of cuartets with mithical pokemon, legendaries only assosiated in lore not in game and idk where you took lake trio + cresselia from.
Legendary pokemon which form a cuartet by similiar typings, similiar form of obtaining and being treated by the game are Treasures of ruin, Tapus and Genies.
@@olafmikoaj3121 have you actually played the gen 4 games? The lake trio + Cresselia tick literally every single possible box as to what counts as a quartet.
Obtainable in the same game ✅
Share a type between all 4 members ✅
You obtain them in a very similar fashion ✅
Share the same niche during gameplay ✅
None of them are mythical ✅
They are all connected via the lore ✅
They are as much of a quartet as the other ones you mentioned.
Same goes for the Regis. You can catch them all in the same game (in fact, you need to catch the first three in order to get Regigigas), they share similar niches during gameplay, and they are connected via the lore. The only thing they don‘t share is a common type. But that doesn’t matter. You wouldn’t say that the legendary dogs shouldn’t be considered a trio because they lack a common type. Same goes for the gen 3 weather trio. Or the Darkest Day trio. Or whatever Kalos‘ trio is called.
I could continue this whole thing with the useless quartet, and the dogs + Ho-Oh as well.
Meanwhile, the genies were originally meant to be a trio. The idea of making them into a quartet came later on. Enamorous connection to the other three is in every regard strenuous at best, non-existent at worst. You literally just called them the weather genies. What kind of weather is love? Why do they count and the others don’t.
Why do mythical Pokémon not count? Keldeo and Pecharunt very clearly belong to the Swords of Justice and useless trio respectively. They came out during the same generation, share a common type, fulfill similar niches during gameplay, share the same ability, are connected via the lore etc. etc.
Your „criteria“ here are just arbitrary, contradictory, unnecessarily restrictive, and just straight-up do not make any sense.
You’re really killing it with these videos lately. I hope you’re having fun with it because we sure are. Great work 💪
You know Moxie Boosted is GOATed because he will take any opportunity to reference One Piece with these thumbnails and we know it's peak fiction.🐐
A little off-topic... But does anyone else think that maybe they keep adding _too many_ legendaries? Like, maybe I'm just crazy, but we have so many already, and Scarlet and Violet added a whopping *12* if you count the DLC (Koraidon, Miraidon, Ting-Lu, Chien-Pao, Wo-Chien, Chi-Yu, Ogerpon, Okidogi, Munkidori, Fezandipiti, Terapagos, AND Pecharunt)!
They just don't feel quite as special as they used to.
I mean, it was Gen 4 that started the too many legendaries trend.
@@deadlydingus1138 Yes, that's how capitalism works. You make thing, you pay for thing.
Man they don't feel that special since they made regular mons better than legendaries
aka gen 1
Generation III added 8. Only Kalos had their 3. But other than that, there have been a lot of them in every generation. So, it's nothing new.
And Gen IV and V had tons of mythical as well.
Just for accuracy, Pecharunt is a mythical
Thumbnail should have Wo-Chien as Buggy instead (a fraud that everyone can't help but love)
2:25 I love how that's not at all how math works. Great videos man!
As someone whose name is also Marcos, that sudden praise for the mysterious handsome fella running Ting Lu + Gouging Fire caught me off guard 💥
It's shit like this why I enjoy your content so much lmao (totally not biased)
I love the thumbnail being the ruin legendaries as yonkos after luffy wrecked kaido
The treeasures of ruin mixed with the Ultra beasts would be a crazy stupid meta bro, KARTANA AND CHIEN PAO???
5:09
Moxie: "Like a pokemon shouldn't be able to do this much damage with a neutral attack"
Miraidon on Electric terrain: "Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"
Spidops: Base stat total not found (2:43)
Look at Wo Chien thinking he’s part of the club
He is now
Incidentally, I did have an abandoned fangame writeup where the player would need to defeat at least one Treasure of Ruin in order to get it and block out the villain's psychic power with it. For each one, I had an effect attached to it:
Chien-Pao: Gets a few raid shields (like in gen 8, but without actually dynamaxing). It can use Swords Dance. That's all it needs.
Chi-Yu: Steals three of your Revives, and uses them when it gets KO'd. Hope you like Overheat!
Ting-Lu: Immune to almost all damage, but slowly "leaks" hp; you have to survive while keeping it from healing too much with its Shell Bell.
Wo-Chien: type changes to resist your current Pokémon's STAB moves.
the only thing harder than these things designs is the soundtrack
I don’t want to think about a time where my boi, Kirito the Snow Lynx, ISN’T a part of the game
I love the thumbnail dawg lmaoooo you got it right
Thumbnail is some of the best art i’ve ever seen
Great video, super well thought out.
Is that their theme music in 8-bit in the background?!
The thumbnail for these videos are always great 😂
Bro atrix’s thumbnail art is incredible he deserves so much more recognition
“Moxieboosted this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown Wo-Chien in class”
That Marcos guy sounds cool, you should do a collaboration with him
"What makes them so powerful? (And why does no one but me play Wo-Chien? hai bestie)"
The Quartet was supposed to be even stronger than they are today. Before the official release all the mons had higher stats. Chien Pao had 10 more attack, Chi Yu had 10 more spatk and the bulky ones had even more bulk. GF probably realized they were going to be way too broken and toned them down before we even got to see how broken they’d truly be.
Interesting how the Treasures of Ruin and the Guardian Deities are kind of similar:
Fast Physical Attacker - Koko, ChienPao (Granted, Koko leant more into Special in VGC but Base Stats wise those two match up)
Special Attacker - Lele, ChiYu
Bulky Tank - Fini, TingLu
Worst of the bunch - Bulu, WoChien (Both are Grass Type)
5:25 a little flower ring that uses a healing move:
"you're too slow"
Michael was insane on this thumbnail. Im gonna be seeing these faces in my nightmares tonight.
The thumbnail is actually really good woah
2:37 if you do add up the raw numbers you'd get a mon with a stat spread of:
HP - 387
Attack - 490
Defense - 460
Sp Attack - 366
Sp Defense - 391
Speed - 366
And that's just the Base stats!
legendaries in gen 20:
@@silver_was_foundnah that's your route 1 Pokemon of gen 20
@@Patrick_Bateman71 I was gonna say that, but then I was like “power creep can’t be that bad can it?” 💀
@@silver_was_found never underestimate gamefreak especially when it comes to powercreep
Well done video as always!!❤
I have been playing with Specs Kyogre and have learned that Tera Water, Helping Hand (from Farigaraf), Rain+specs boosted, Modest, one shots Amoongus and Raging Bolt with Water spout. It’s insane how many games I can get away with because most people don’t play around it. Wo-chien would live it for sure, such a tanky unit!
Wild that Wo-Chien is in the thumbnail but has “less impact than pluale and minun will ever have”💀
My eyes weren't lying when I thought this was the new yonko Picture
thumbnails just keep hitting new peaks
Bro is a Wo-Chein salesman 😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Its done, the greatest thumbnail of all time has been created. Nothing will ever top this.
Love the attention to detail in the thumbnail art. Ting Liu is the one with the longest nose, thus Buggy, Chi Yu has a red tipped fin, therefore Shanks, Wo Chien destroys everything around it like a foliage-based black hole, so Blackbeard, and Chien Pao is white like Gear 5
Great video, super well explained, hell of a thumbnail
Bro I love the way the cover looks like the 4 yonko
fun fact chi-yu with beads of ruin factored in without any other boosts is equivalent to having base 197 special attack. very fair and balanced individual :)
I love snow leopards so Chien Pao being good was a dream come true lol
Geez... watching Pokemon battles in gen 9 reminds me how SLOW it all is.
Really hope Game Freak puts serious effort into updating combat flow & speeds things along to match modern JRPGs.
I feel like if they’re gonna make abilities as powerful as these ones, they’d have to do the opposite effect; positive stat multipliers for the Pokemon and their partner.
Maybe it could be spread to ALL Pokemon on the field like these guys do with theirs, but it’d be SIGNIFICANTLY stronger if it was exclusive to your side.
What’s crazy is that I think in a 4 vs 4 of the Treasures of Ruin against the Tapus, the Treasures would probably win even with the type disadvantage just because they’re just that dang OP
I think you are wrong about what happens when all 4 are on the field because each Ruin ability does not work on those who have that same specific Ruin ability. For example, Wo-Chien would not lower his own attack but would hit extra hard with Physical moves like Foul Play on Ting-Lu and Chi-Yu due to Chien-Pao's Sword of Ruin lowering their Defence. But he would not hit Chien Pao harder with Physical attacks because Chien Pao does not lower his own Defence.
Not gonna lie, Plusle and Minum could get a mega with an ability that auto Megas the other one with the plus and minus abilities respectively stapled on
Saw the thumbnail and just immediately gave you a like
That thumbnail art is awesome
2:20 all stats lowered except hp and speed, so all things would still be slightly bulkier because the hp remains the same
2:23
This isn’t TECHNICALLY true, right? Because they don’t apply the changes to themselves. Everyone would have all debuffs BESIDE their own.
Ironically, this would make Chien-Pao feel Physically bulkier, Ting-Lu specially stronger, Chi-Yu specially bulkier, and Wo-Chien physically stronger.
I know the thumbnail is a reference to the emperors in one piece and chi yu, being red most corresponds to shanks. But it still bothers me that it has a sword in the thumbnail despite being a special attacker and chien pao being the one who has _sword_ of ruin for its ability
The treasures of ruin's theme goes so hard, I cannot put any other song to play in game
I need to know if you specifically asked for the OP reference or if your channel artist is just the GOAT
@@sonicducktheinoccent I asked
@MoxieBoosted Understood
YOU are, in fact, the goat
Ngl the one piece thumbnail made it so I had to support this video
2:22 am I missing something? In my mind a physical attack from a wo chien or a special attack from ting lu would do more damage than usual to either of the others. It doesn't seem like they cancel out at all
why did you drag my favorite pokemon in the first 20 seconds i'm crying
It’s a good day when you wake up to a moxie videos
bro casually has the hardest thumbnails in existence
2:20 wait, is that actually how it works? The pokemon are immune to their own ability, so I thought that meant each one would have 25% more of whatever stat it lowers relative to the others. So Ting Liu would have more special attack due to it not lowering it's own special attack, while Chi Yu has more special defense for the same reason, leaving everything else neutral on the special side
Lets take a second to apreciate the 4 emperors of the sea x the treasures of ruin thumbnail, so awesome
I got a question, how are physical attackers more prevalent than special ones this gen with stuff like intimidate and burn? Plus rough skin, rocky helmet, etc, I feel like there’s more against physical attackers than what special ones have to deal with
Why does the Thumb Nail look like Yonkous from One Piece 😂
Took me a moment to realize the thumbnail is the four pirate emperor's (post wano)
I dont keep up with comp pokemon but the fact that a move that always crits, multihits, and damage cant be lowered by conventional means isnt banned is mind boggling
Didn’t regulation C also add paradox mons and not just ruinous quartet?
That's reg B
That Marcos Perez seems to be a cool guy, maybe you could invite him to a video
Video Idea: Is tarastilisation going to be a core mechanic moving forward? Or will only certain Pokemon be able to use it? Ogerpom and Terapogos comes to mind. Interesting to see what Pokémon’s will benefit the most with it gone and which ones suffer.
I’m guessing if it does stay in the game in some form, it will probably be restricted to a holding item.
Looking at Necrozma, those two are losing their special forms if their gimmick is gone
Just loved this thumbnail, good video
i don't care if wo chien is bad, they're my special snail friend, and we're going to go eat tomatoes together. the rest of you can have your battles, endlessly laboring to determine who is best, but we're having a little treat and a nice walk.
I don't care about the video I'm here just to praise that awesome thumbnail.
Love the one piece references in the thumbnail dude!
That thumbnail is as legendary as its origin