BTW, Cicero probably just leaves copies of 'A Kiss, Sweet Mother' everywhere he goes. Got to make sure that potential clients have the necessary means to contact the Dark Brotherhood, after all!
It was Brynjolf that put the book there, and he even admits it. When discussing the new leadership of the thieves guild, he says, among other things, that he has ‘framed priests for murder’, but is no leader. Pretty hard to argue when he tells you himself I think..
@@McPlayer8t It still feeds the idea that copies of the book are basically the equivalent of missionary pamphlets. The DB know they're considered contraband, and hand them out continually because they know that if they don't all publicly available copies will be destroyed.
I disagree, at least on this occasion. What you say makes sense, but Brynjolf more or less tells you why it is there. Also, it is not like we see copies of the book all over the place, generally we only see them during related quests, and why would they leave a copy in a Temple of Mara? Then again, is placing an evil book in the temple framing a priest for murder? Only Brynjolf knows, and Brynjolf isn't... never mind.
@@McPlayer8t Not sure how the book would be used to frame somebody for murder though, since using the ritual pretty much demonstrates that somebody is unwilling to commit murder themselves. Frame them for using dark magic yes, murder not so much...
Can we just take a minute to realize that it takes over 9 effing years to make a new game? This st*t better be a spectacular f*cking game or im gonna blast skyrim battle music outside bethesda game studios headquarters. And ill have a riot rallied behind me, picket signs and all.
@@mellowyello1478 it better fuckin not be. The elder scrolls does not. I repeat. DOES NOT. need another multiplayer game, maybe multiplayer optional, sorta like gta, but, no. .... Ive never played fallout76, ive necer really even played fallout 4 that much either. Im more elder scrolls than fallout though.
The Book "A Kiss, Sweet Mother" belongs to Talen-jei the Argonian. He gave it to Marmal to provide direction for a "Traditional" Argonian wedding. As we all Know, Hist trees serve Sithis and the argonians serve the Hist. So the wedding ceremony is in a Sithis book. There is a letter next to the book that is connected to the book.
"It's the thugs, not the Jarl or Guards, that rule the city." Me: wait there is a Jarl of Riften? ...that really shows how little the Jarl matters. The city belongs to the thieves!!!!
The sad thing is she is one of the better Jarls, Maven would be much worse. Not to mention Siddgeir of Falkreath, Igmund of The Reach, both Idgrod and Sorli of Hjaalmarch, Korir of Winterhold. I would say Elisif, but at least she is a caring and generous leader, if not the strongest or most intelligent
@@McPlayer8t Gneraly the only good Jarl on the side of Ulfric is that Dengier while the Imperials have Brelyna and Balgruf. Everyone else is either too far removed from reality or straight up rotten.
You mean Brina? I sided with the empire on my first play through before I knew the story, but nowI always pick Stormcloaks, and I honestly have no idea how anyone who knows the full story could side with the empire. The stormcloak soldiers and commanders all have powerful stories whereas the legion soldiers are just sheep that say we have to fight that bad guy that did that thing. Finally, I believe Ulfric and the Jarls he puts in charge have a better chance than Elisif to lead Skyrim into a better future, especially if there is another war with the Thalmorons. Ulfric could just shout them back where they came from.
There is this weird glitch in my game where a dragon always flies in to Helgen at the start of the game, it always cancels the execution, anyone know how to work around this?
I actually had to think for a second, because I assumed ANOTHER dragon was showing up and thus cancelling out Alduin's attack somehow. I really should stop reading YT comments when I'm tired.
For the "Things they never told you about Morthal" list video that’s likely coming up, I found something new after 2.5k hours of playing: during the quest Laid to Rest, when you discover the plot by vampires to enslave the town, once you kill Laellete, I’d say most players end up immediately rushing over to Alva’s house in order to gather evidence. However, if you instead go to the Moorside Inn and talk to the innkeeper, she has a unique dialogue option where you can ask her about Laellete. And if you talk to Alva herself, she mentions that she knows you killed Laellete. I’d wager most players probably haven’t heard that dialogue.
There are loads of little things in that quest. I seem to have a slightly different outcome most times I've done it. Took me a while to get dialog with Helgi at the grave. I was surprised by Alva both with what you mentioned and her going to the lair. Uh, and didn't go mention to Hroggar that I had seen Helgi's ghost for a long time.
I remember trying to enter the southeastern gate of Riften from the outside. I didn't even notice it had actually been boarded up, I just thought it was an odd-looking gate. Needless to say my overencumbered Dragonborn was very grumpy, trudging to the front gate.
So Bethesda forgot to put in the explanation as to why the Southeastern gate is closed in the actual game, but they wrote it down in the game guide. Nice
I think they realized they messed up by not explaining it in-game and it was too late to make an asset (note, NPC, dialogue) to explain it so they just tossed it in there.
I think they might had had a plan that just didn’t get off paper as, looking at the map in the book and game, you can see the road that the gate follows passes by a bandit camp and a spot that sometimes radiantly spawns thrives that want to rob you.
Just found out today, after years of playing and probably 1000’s of hours of game play maven blackbriar will come to the cistern to watch you become guild master and stay around to congratulate you after. Had to tell you in case it could be a tiny details ❤️
@@riftenguard4790 I mean it's kinda understandable, she's needlessly rude to the DB, though you could say that pre-Guild you're just an annoying tourist to her and during her Guild quest her skepticism is meant to encourage the best performance
@@riftenguard4790 she has to be tough, she has a crucial role in very dangerous groups, so people think she's just a bitch when she's actually just a boss babe
This is pretty much every town and city in Skyrim. Oblivion had bigger cities with greater populations. I guess as the graphics scale up, sacrifices have to be made (though the modding community has proven that's not always the case).
There's a third confirmed pregnancy, and... it always makes me sad... When you first go to Markarth, you can trigger the Forsworn quest, originally given to you by Eltrys. He mentions having a child on the way. And working in the Silver-Blood Treasury House is a woman named Rhiada. If you go to the Treasury during the Forsworn quest, odds are everyone but Thonar Silver-Blood will be killed by the undercover Forsworn agents. Including Rhiada. There's a key to Eltrys' room in the Warrens on her body. She was his wife. She was pregnant. And she was murdered. The horror I felt when I first realised still hits me every time I play that quest.
Simple solutions, 1: Slow time shout 2:Quick reflexes, perk in the block skill tree the perk will slow time when blocking during a power attack. If you get lucky with it then you abuse it to move around while everyone else is slowed down. 3: Eagle eye, Perk in the archery skill tree that slows time while zooming in with a bow. Not helpful for moving around but helps for attacking.
I suspect the book is actually a mistake: When looking for books to put in the temple of love, someone saw "Kiss" and went "yeah, that'll make nice decoration" and didn't realize which book that _actually_ was.
I always found Riften one of the most interesting cities, it might even be my favourite. Its one of threw few areas that still feels fresh when I play.
@@insaincaldo I think so too. They all have their own layouts but Riften has always been pretty unique with the canals and multiple levels. I even like the house better
I'll be honest, first overheard those lovebirds, while testing out my Enchantment skill. Didn't think it was weird until I got to know the Riften court better.
There's a third way into the city, even before you buy the house. Just use the sewer grate that empties out into the lake. Leads you right inside Mistveil Keep's prison.
I love Nate's vids, but sometimes it's like: "Skyrim has many fights with dragons, and so many players have no doubt noticed that glowing, swooshy effect after killing one. But, did you know that's not just a cool visual effect on Bethesda's part? If you pay attention to some in-game conversations and lore, you are actually - in those moments - CONSUMING A DRAGON'S SOUL. Why would the player be doing that? What would a dragon soul taste like? And where in the lore does this fit in? Only the greybeards know. And they ... aren't talking. Or shouting. You get it."
@@McPlayer8t McPlayer8t McPlayer8t The thing is, his videos are too long. I don't doubt that he has good content, but I also don't have 1-2 hours to set aside to watch a video about who has the dark brotherhood contract on them or the cult in rorikstead. I like the style of nate's videos but his scripts are a bit bland after a while.
Well the Falmer Blood Elixer makes you fuck like a Sabrecat, doesn't mean it makes you as big as one. Gotta use that Horker Tusk strap on sheath for the full effect.
When you think about it, it’s mental that a child managed to not only escape the orphanage he was being brought up in, not only manage to successfully perform the Black Sacrament… but also managed to safely walk from Riften to Windhelm of his own accord. (Not only is it a staggering distance, but from experience it’s also one of the most dangerous journeys you can make in Skyrim).
Yep - the propensity of bears, wolves and frostbite spiders on the road between The Rift and East March is insane - nevermind the main road passing by a giant camp and a dragon lair.
"Mistivell Keep" Oh, Nate... Its Mistveil. Mist as in, well, mist - and veil as in the brides ornament! Then again, it wouldn't be a proper EpicNate video without him mispronouncing a name we hear multiple times in the game :)
When I first played the game, I was often confused by the fact that the area riften is in is called "The Rift", due to my lack of knowledge on the holds being different than the major cities in each. What added to this was an old lady who would say "There's a rift in skyrim" which in my dumb baby mind thought that there was an actual rift which I would encounter, somewhere around Riften. This is added to my confusion during "Season Unending" when Tullius said gaining "The Rift" would be nice, since I thought there was a real rift somewhere.
There's a copy of a Kiss Sweet Mother in most of the temples though, I'm almost certain there's one in the temple of Kynareth and the Temple of Talos Plus, you find Arentino's copy of the book with him when he's actually performing the Black Sacrament I think the book spawns in those locations due to the fact it's a book centred around religion, and it would make sense for religous themed books to be found in the temples
@@metetural9140 Considering she´s willing to keep her murderer of a son locked up despite very well being able to let him walk free... Also listen to her dialogue about her grandkids and how she scolds her heir.
@@coffeepoweredkatie6290 In game dialogue where she´s talking down to her youngest son for sleeping around with Helga from the Bunkhouse. Bethesda left a lot of unfinished stuff.
Man, breaking into Mistveil Keep is definitely the most anxiety-inducing of any castle for me. I've always loved Riften's blend of wealth and depravity.
I have something i discovered randomly in skyrim, it doesnt really have anything to do with riften, but here it is: You can get your followers "stuck" by giving them the command to interact with the stones (sunstone, waterstone, etc.) on solstheim, but they only get "stuck" if they are still corrupted (btw they only get "stuck" for a bit of time and the followers talk like everyone else on the influenced by the stones)
This new series about the cities is good Nate, I would love to see more! After tons of Skyrim trivia, I thought You could not freshen up your repertoire, but you've surprised me pleasantly with these city vids. Its feels like they provide a new perspective.
@T A R I Could you provide a few examples with proofs? Granted, i dont remember every single detail he shared with us, there is just too many of it by now, but when he reuses some, he tells it in the actual video and I do, indeed, remember hearing it already. So far, in his city-themed videos, I believe I did not encounter such "recycling".
Couldn't have been Cicero, he came by boat, as noted in his journals. And landed in dawn star, which is surmised by you running into him taking the night mother between dawn star and whiterun. Hinting that his path was dawn star straight south
Are you telling me this man literally sailed all the way from Bravil, down the Lower Niben, through the Topal Bay, and either through Dominion-controlled waters or An-Xileel-controlled waters for the length of the entire continent into Dawnstar instead of just passing through the Jeralls into Falkreath?
@@heresthadude1080 I mean, his journals tell you that specifically he went by boat and landed in dawnstar before spending time in the dawnstar sanctuary. That isn't a guess or opinion. However, i honestly think it makes more sense for him to take off from hammerfell after heading northwest from brazil, away from the foreign lizards and crazy genocide altmer, and instead through safer imperial land, comparatively. I don't remember, as its been years, but i believe the journals say that too, but thats the only part i dont remember clearly. Read his journals
What I found most disappointing about Skyrim's factions is that so many of them are not what they were in Oblivion. Dark Brotherhood, the Thieves Guild the Mages Guild (which doesn't even exist anymore) and the Fighters Guild that doesn't even have a presence in Skyrim. It was almost devastating
I agree. I recently played Oblivion again and had a great time playing all four Guilds and loved the rules and whatnot. In Skyrim, the thieves don't emphasize helping the poor and don't care if you murder people to death which was a big no no in Oblivion and made it different than the DB. It could've been different and still fun in Skyrim, but the directions the guilds went (or lack thereof in Fighters guild) left me quite a bit disappointed for sure.
@@corbinbarron8772 Imagine watching a RUclipsr who mispronounces "Mistveil Keep" in a video about Riften, and then insulting someone in the comments for their spelling. Get it together dude.
Actually there is a third pregnant woman in the province: Rhiada, who works at Markarts Treasury and is married to Eltrys ( the guy you help during the Forsworn Conpiracy quest). It's also interesting to know that Thonar Silver-Blood can sometimes be caught flirting with her: take a listen! ( Oh wait...)
I found it kind of annoying that you couldn't destroy the Thieves Guild like you could with the Dark Brotherhood. I think a questline of catching thieves and bringing Blackbriars to justice could've been fun. Hell, given the distrust in Winterhold for the Mages College, it would've been cool to have a quest where the Jarl sends you to infiltrate the college and try to collapse it into the sea. Though that would be a really evil questline for sure, haha.
When he said, they have dialogue that definitely confirm she is pregnant I expected very sarcastic openly obvious words that extremely strongly hinted at them, “can’t believe your expecting a child”
You didn't take Ingrid Black-Briar's stupid ingredients quest then? You lucked out. My journal will never be clear. She'll get my nirnroots over my cold, dead body.
Brynjolf has been running this elixir racket for ten years, just hoping some stranger shows up to actually steal and plant the ring, meanwhile every single member of the guild is sitting on their ass downstairs. No wonder they're struggling.
Love the content man. I had to play a nonupdated Skyrim for a while since I had no internet and your videos kept me sane. (Was able to watch RUclips but couldn’t download anything. Very annoying) Hope you have a wonderful day!
@@misterturkturkle Perhaps you don't, but there was a mod in use in the video because that was not Anuriel's default hair. Look at her on UESP: en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Anuriel
I was playing recently and heard a rare random dialogue between Maven and Branshei, before starting the ring quest. I didn't hear it well but Maven was very angry at Branshei for something and warned him. Never heard that dialogue trigger after so many replays.
I don’t know if it’s already in a video, but during the dark brotherhood quest to kill an empire, if you wear a chefs full outfit (hat and clothes) when you confront the guards you can unlock some unique dialogue
I just discovered a place I never knew existed! It’s called “The Chill” and it’s north of the College of Winterhold on a large island directly against the invisible wall. Maybe you could cover it in a video. It’s a small cave but really strange
I'd like to think that "A Kiss, Sweet Mother" was actually given to Aventus by Cicero in Riften. Come to think of it, how could a mere kid travel from Riften to Windhelm alone. He prolly had help escaping the city and was heavily influenced into performing the sacrament. I think it was Cicero. But since as a Keeper, he is not allowed to take any contract to kill, he merely influenced Aventus, rather killing Grelod himself. And we all know we can meet Cicero going to the direction of Whiterun from the North. Why would he come from the north? Visited Dawnstar maybe? Or Windhelm?
technically the Riften bandit attacks are sort of referenced by the guards when they say "been too long since we've had a good bandit raid" so that can kind of be linked to that.
One theory I had is... Dinya Balu was once an assassin from the dark brotherhood but had a change of heart after meeting Maramal and that book was hers when she was still part of the brotherhood. I've observed that dark elves in the setting of ES 5 worships the daedra, Azura is commonly worshipped by them and Dinya was the only one who worshipped Mara that much, not to mention she herself is a priestess. Not a solid theory though but a possible one.
In a weird sort of way I find the Dark Brotherhood a more ethical organization than the Thieves Guild. True story, I never have finished the thieves guild questline.
hi hey hello hope you’re doing great today and you’re a beautiful person when we join the thieves guild we don’t see byrineolf after he says he’s busy in the streets trying to scam people
My theory about the black sacrament book is that Cicero knew that the orphans were being abused and casually gave them the book hoping one would run off and perform the ritual.
Ive seen the notes in her room but never knew it had a meaning this deep. I remember the conversations with both of them. Never knew they had a secret relationship
I love that the closed captions at 8.14 says "so this kid would have both a human and elephant" and then continues to talk about "crossbreeding between men and myrhh". Such good value on top of an already awesome video :)
i have planted the ring on brand-shei, but avoid having him be arrested by quickly entering the orphanage and killing grelod, when i returned back to the market later brand-shei still had his stall open and continues to sell me goods
okay i love the theory about the a kiss, sweet mother book but i’m so in love with the idea of the developers of skyrim are sitting in the temple looking over everything and todd just goes “why don’t we just put this here to confuse the shit out of people” and everyone just goes “yeaaaaaaaahhhhh!”
Goes to find some old guy named esbern in riften *Becomes theives guild master*
Whoops
In my case. went in to sell my ancient nordic weapons and some pelts, came out of riften a thief.
Skyrim in a nutshell, you think you know what you are doing then the game changes your mind for you.
McPlayer8t exactly 🤣
Your comment just reminded me why I was in Riften in the first place! I need to go back there.
Dragonborn: Enters Riften. Brynjolf: So you have chosen... crime
~ *DISABLES HIM IN CONSOLE*
Brynjolf is the only reason I ever join the Thieves Guild. The ONLY reason.
Calum Bruce lol nope.
@@LadyJessicaWilliams crime
@@oliv3iraDan You say crime, I say Brynjolf.
BTW, Cicero probably just leaves copies of 'A Kiss, Sweet Mother' everywhere he goes. Got to make sure that potential clients have the necessary means to contact the Dark Brotherhood, after all!
Does this mean that Cicero is kinda like that Gideon fellow that's always leaving his book on the nightstand of your average motel room?
It was Brynjolf that put the book there, and he even admits it. When discussing the new leadership of the thieves guild, he says, among other things, that he has ‘framed priests for murder’, but is no leader. Pretty hard to argue when he tells you himself I think..
@@McPlayer8t It still feeds the idea that copies of the book are basically the equivalent of missionary pamphlets. The DB know they're considered contraband, and hand them out continually because they know that if they don't all publicly available copies will be destroyed.
I disagree, at least on this occasion. What you say makes sense, but Brynjolf more or less tells you why it is there. Also, it is not like we see copies of the book all over the place, generally we only see them during related quests, and why would they leave a copy in a Temple of Mara? Then again, is placing an evil book in the temple framing a priest for murder? Only Brynjolf knows, and Brynjolf isn't... never mind.
@@McPlayer8t Not sure how the book would be used to frame somebody for murder though, since using the ritual pretty much demonstrates that somebody is unwilling to commit murder themselves. Frame them for using dark magic yes, murder not so much...
M'aiq does not like Riften, he had his sweet roll stolen there...
😂 🤣
I think this time Nate took his inspiration for this video from this guy:
ruclips.net/video/dYB7BsL6R4c/видео.html
M'aiq is done talking
The first hours I played Skyrim I was like “what are those trolls they are talking about?”
Sooooo you do like riften? M'aiq the LIAR
Can we just take a minute to realize that this game has been out for 9 years and people can still make videos like this.
Can we just take a minute to realize that it takes over 9 effing years to make a new game? This st*t better be a spectacular f*cking game or im gonna blast skyrim battle music outside bethesda game studios headquarters. And ill have a riot rallied behind me, picket signs and all.
@@dr.jiggles2447 you know its going to be exactly like Fallout 76.
@@mellowyello1478 it better fuckin not be. The elder scrolls does not. I repeat. DOES NOT. need another multiplayer game, maybe multiplayer optional, sorta like gta, but, no. .... Ive never played fallout76, ive necer really even played fallout 4 that much either. Im more elder scrolls than fallout though.
@Robert Harris it wouldn't be a true bethesda game with them! Lmao.
Can we take a minute to realize that this games been out for 9 years and that Dunmer in the Temple of Mara is still pregnant
"me not joining the thieves guild, cuz stealing is a crime and all."
*continues to kill a random old lady in some random ass orphanage.*
To be fair, she *IS* an abusive bitch.
It's an act of liberating the children from torture and abuse.
To be fair, it was fun
Believe it or not, the game doesn't mark grelod the kind as a murder if you kill her.
And it doesn’t count as murder in the stats
The Book "A Kiss, Sweet Mother" belongs to Talen-jei the Argonian. He gave it to Marmal to provide direction for a "Traditional" Argonian wedding. As we all Know, Hist trees serve Sithis and the argonians serve the Hist. So the wedding ceremony is in a Sithis book. There is a letter next to the book that is connected to the book.
Well, off to riften to check lol
I never made that connection, I always just assumed someone in the Temple REALLY didn't like Argonians.
@@TheLadyLiddell Like... the Dunmer priestess?
Could be one argument, though I have chosen the book titled "Sithis" as a stand in, but hey I'm not Bethesda.
@@JohnZ117 she's just salty her mother got got by the An-Xileel
"It's the thugs, not the Jarl or Guards, that rule the city."
Me: wait there is a Jarl of Riften?
...that really shows how little the Jarl matters. The city belongs to the thieves!!!!
The sad thing is she is one of the better Jarls, Maven would be much worse. Not to mention Siddgeir of Falkreath, Igmund of The Reach, both Idgrod and Sorli of Hjaalmarch, Korir of Winterhold.
I would say Elisif, but at least she is a caring and generous leader, if not the strongest or most intelligent
@@McPlayer8t Gneraly the only good Jarl on the side of Ulfric is that Dengier while the Imperials have Brelyna and Balgruf. Everyone else is either too far removed from reality or straight up rotten.
You mean Brina?
I sided with the empire on my first play through before I knew the story, but nowI always pick Stormcloaks, and I honestly have no idea how anyone who knows the full story could side with the empire. The stormcloak soldiers and commanders all have powerful stories whereas the legion soldiers are just sheep that say we have to fight that bad guy that did that thing.
Finally, I believe Ulfric and the Jarls he puts in charge have a better chance than Elisif to lead Skyrim into a better future, especially if there is another war with the Thalmorons.
Ulfric could just shout them back where they came from.
But you need to interact with the jarl to get Honeyside! One of my favorite houses, with the sweet back porch fishing spot!
@@McPlayer8t You do realize that Ulfric is the bad guy and works for the Thalmor to help weaken Skyrim and the Empire right?
There is this weird glitch in my game where a dragon always flies in to Helgen at the start of the game, it always cancels the execution, anyone know how to work around this?
Wtf? Thats weird.. my execution worked, screen faded to black and credits rolled..
The funniest bug I've seen in Helgen is when the decapitated guy gets up, and starts fighting all the guards.
Try disabling v-sync.
I actually had to think for a second, because I assumed ANOTHER dragon was showing up and thus cancelling out Alduin's attack somehow.
I really should stop reading YT comments when I'm tired.
The only thing that works for me is uninstalling Skyrim.
For the "Things they never told you about Morthal" list video that’s likely coming up, I found something new after 2.5k hours of playing: during the quest Laid to Rest, when you discover the plot by vampires to enslave the town, once you kill Laellete, I’d say most players end up immediately rushing over to Alva’s house in order to gather evidence.
However, if you instead go to the Moorside Inn and talk to the innkeeper, she has a unique dialogue option where you can ask her about Laellete. And if you talk to Alva herself, she mentions that she knows you killed Laellete. I’d wager most players probably haven’t heard that dialogue.
zredfernhall Wait, is this true?
That's a great find. Time to start a new game just to experience this.
he can just copy paste this into his script lol
I usually hear it because pickpocketing the key is more fun.
There are loads of little things in that quest. I seem to have a slightly different outcome most times I've done it. Took me a while to get dialog with Helgi at the grave. I was surprised by Alva both with what you mentioned and her going to the lair. Uh, and didn't go mention to Hroggar that I had seen Helgi's ghost for a long time.
I remember trying to enter the southeastern gate of Riften from the outside. I didn't even notice it had actually been boarded up, I just thought it was an odd-looking gate.
Needless to say my overencumbered Dragonborn was very grumpy, trudging to the front gate.
Idiot
Lmao oh I feel you, you poor soul
@@Callsign_Prophet *_iDiOt_*
Crystal *Class Grapple* IdOit
MY first thought was O_O such massive timber O_O' Seriously, 20 feet or so long and 2 feet thick?
So Bethesda forgot to put in the explanation as to why the Southeastern gate is closed in the actual game, but they wrote it down in the game guide. Nice
Of course how else are they gonna sell the guides if they spill all of their secrets in game.
I think they realized they messed up by not explaining it in-game and it was too late to make an asset (note, NPC, dialogue) to explain it so they just tossed it in there.
I think they might had had a plan that just didn’t get off paper as, looking at the map in the book and game, you can see the road that the gate follows passes by a bandit camp and a spot that sometimes radiantly spawns thrives that want to rob you.
Classic Bethesda
It just works
Just found out today, after years of playing and probably 1000’s of hours of game play maven blackbriar will come to the cistern to watch you become guild master and stay around to congratulate you after. Had to tell you in case it could be a tiny details ❤️
Ikr, I finished that questline for the first time and saw her in the back.
Lady Maven gets the most unnecessary hate from the fanbase.
@@riftenguard4790 I mean it's kinda understandable, she's needlessly rude to the DB, though you could say that pre-Guild you're just an annoying tourist to her and during her Guild quest her skepticism is meant to encourage the best performance
@@riftenguard4790 she has to be tough, she has a crucial role in very dangerous groups, so people think she's just a bitch when she's actually just a boss babe
@@casualcrisis6349 girl boss, slay queen
“Massive population and thriving market” like fifteen people in the whole city lol
This is pretty much every town and city in Skyrim. Oblivion had bigger cities with greater populations. I guess as the graphics scale up, sacrifices have to be made (though the modding community has proven that's not always the case).
My exact thought.
Not counting the guards.
'City's' of Skyrim are just over glorified towns. Lol
In the lore the population is likely in the thousands. Game mechanics necessitate a much smaller city
I thought I knew everything about Riften but that fact about Dinya surprised me
Nicole Bae Same here-hundreds of hours and I’ve definitely never heard that conversation!
It’s because they never told you about it
My question is why talk like that in front of the Harl and her Guards/You i.e. Dragon Born???????????????
@Nicole Bee Love your pfp. Always happy to find more fans of Mercedes.
There's a third confirmed pregnancy, and... it always makes me sad...
When you first go to Markarth, you can trigger the Forsworn quest, originally given to you by Eltrys. He mentions having a child on the way. And working in the Silver-Blood Treasury House is a woman named Rhiada. If you go to the Treasury during the Forsworn quest, odds are everyone but Thonar Silver-Blood will be killed by the undercover Forsworn agents. Including Rhiada. There's a key to Eltrys' room in the Warrens on her body. She was his wife. She was pregnant. And she was murdered. The horror I felt when I first realised still hits me every time I play that quest.
Time to tell you that you can save her if you're quick enough.....get to replaying
Especially if you have the slow time shout.
Simple solutions,
1: Slow time shout
2:Quick reflexes, perk in the block skill tree the perk will slow time when blocking during a power attack. If you get lucky with it then you abuse it to move around while everyone else is slowed down.
3: Eagle eye, Perk in the archery skill tree that slows time while zooming in with a bow. Not helpful for moving around but helps for attacking.
I suspect the book is actually a mistake: When looking for books to put in the temple of love, someone saw "Kiss" and went "yeah, that'll make nice decoration" and didn't realize which book that _actually_ was.
Imagine if some parishioner absently leafs through the book 😂😂
Probably the same person who marked one of Balgrufs kids as his brother lol
I always found Riften one of the most interesting cities, it might even be my favourite. Its one of threw few areas that still feels fresh when I play.
Ali Palooza Hear, hear!
It feels like one of the cities most suited for both the good and the bad.
@@insaincaldo I think so too. They all have their own layouts but Riften has always been pretty unique with the canals and multiple levels. I even like the house better
Riften is my favorite. It’s just a shame about the framerate within the city.
It's the jewel of Skyrim
Last time I was this early Grelod the kind was still alive
Oof, that must of been years ago
They call her Grelod the kind. But SHE'S NOT KIND
Who do you kill first, Grelod or Nazeem?
What about Lokir of Rorikstead?
Not. Lokir.
Nate in another 7 years of Skyrim videos: "5 things they didn't tell you about this pebble on the path to Riverwood"
😂🤣
You bet your ass I would click on that lmao
3 years until this banger idea of a video drops
he better make this video
Brynjolf:" this elixir can help you make love like a saber cat..."
haelga: "I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!"
Fun fact:in haelga’s room in the bunkhouse you can find a few hinting something with haelga and brynjolf if you know what I mean
@@colleennostrand i think she just owns a kinky bdsm house
I had no idea Dinya and Maramal were even married! Let alone pregnant! How the hell did I not know that, oh my goodness, that's so cool
My question: We are coming up on 10 years this year, just how long are Dunmer expecting?
@@insaincaldo hm....11?
When your so early even the power of Todd Howard wont let you see the comments
You have to shout to unlock the comments.
@@Mikayla_Games24 ah I see which dungeon has the shout
I believe you mean Hodd toward
QuietFury9 I thought it was Toward hodd
I'll be honest, first overheard those lovebirds, while testing out my Enchantment skill.
Didn't think it was weird until I got to know the Riften court better.
When you can't decide a name for your character:
"DFGHT"
Or just put 'Dragonborn'
You spelled sklirpthir wrong
Woops, guess I'm Prisoner.
@@insaincaldo you spelled sklorppagol rongji
There's a third way into the city, even before you buy the house. Just use the sewer grate that empties out into the lake. Leads you right inside Mistveil Keep's prison.
Fourth: punch a guard and pay your bounty.
5 you can get in through the harbour
Black Briar Meadery during the day.
I love Nate's vids, but sometimes it's like:
"Skyrim has many fights with dragons, and so many players have no doubt noticed that glowing, swooshy effect after killing one.
But, did you know that's not just a cool visual effect on Bethesda's part?
If you pay attention to some in-game conversations and lore, you are actually - in those moments - CONSUMING A DRAGON'S SOUL.
Why would the player be doing that? What would a dragon soul taste like? And where in the lore does this fit in?
Only the greybeards know. And they ... aren't talking. Or shouting. You get it."
And don’t forget, “SKYRIM BIG” at the beginning of most videos.
I love Nate, but he needs some way better scripts.
Check out Camelworks, he has some mega Skyrim content.
@@McPlayer8t McPlayer8t McPlayer8t The thing is, his videos are too long. I don't doubt that he has good content, but I also don't have 1-2 hours to set aside to watch a video about who has the dark brotherhood contract on them or the cult in rorikstead. I like the style of nate's videos but his scripts are a bit bland after a while.
Well each to their own, I like both styles and the lines Nate repeats over and over have become a cornerstone of the channel in a way.
@@LasagnaTheArtist I know I've literally listened to one of his Skyrim videos going to work
There’s something magical about Riften. It’s not as flashy as some of the other cities, but for some reason I fell hard for it. Best city in Skyrim.
*The biggest secret in Riften is that horker’s tusk. Yeah, you know what I’m talking about*
Well the Falmer Blood Elixer makes you fuck like a Sabrecat, doesn't mean it makes you as big as one. Gotta use that Horker Tusk strap on sheath for the full effect.
Everything in that room is a sex joke
"Hey Google", who is "markydaysaid"?
Riften's worst kept secret.
Menaceblue3 a person of culture you are i see
When you think about it, it’s mental that a child managed to not only escape the orphanage he was being brought up in, not only manage to successfully perform the Black Sacrament… but also managed to safely walk from Riften to Windhelm of his own accord. (Not only is it a staggering distance, but from experience it’s also one of the most dangerous journeys you can make in Skyrim).
He did all that and he DIDN'T KILL GRELOD HIMSELF!?!
Yep - the propensity of bears, wolves and frostbite spiders on the road between The Rift and East March is insane - nevermind the main road passing by a giant camp and a dragon lair.
The simple explanation is - children are invincible and can’t be harmed! Haha
Am I the only one that keep falling in the water in Riften?
no. no you are not.
All of the time.
Andreas Peder Sørensen I think that’s happened to everyone at least once lol 😂
Yes
I wanna go swimming, but the guards keep yelling at me. The canal's not THAT dirty.
"Mistivell Keep" Oh, Nate... Its Mistveil. Mist as in, well, mist - and veil as in the brides ornament!
Then again, it wouldn't be a proper EpicNate video without him mispronouncing a name we hear multiple times in the game :)
It's also not "laylia lawgiver" it's "layla lawgiver"
Noot loves his mispronunciations, and we love him for them :)
Its an unspoken rule of RUclips. You have to say words wrong or you dont get subs and views
And Anuriel is a Bosmer. Hard to tell with Nate's strange mods that make all elves look alike (beige Dunmer? Come on), but she's a Bosmer.
So that’s where I went wrong...
When I first played the game, I was often confused by the fact that the area riften is in is called "The Rift", due to my lack of knowledge on the holds being different than the major cities in each. What added to this was an old lady who would say "There's a rift in skyrim" which in my dumb baby mind thought that there was an actual rift which I would encounter, somewhere around Riften. This is added to my confusion during "Season Unending" when Tullius said gaining "The Rift" would be nice, since I thought there was a real rift somewhere.
There's a copy of a Kiss Sweet Mother in most of the temples though, I'm almost certain there's one in the temple of Kynareth and the Temple of Talos
Plus, you find Arentino's copy of the book with him when he's actually performing the Black Sacrament
I think the book spawns in those locations due to the fact it's a book centred around religion, and it would make sense for religous themed books to be found in the temples
The Empire: "the steward is working for the criminal Maven Black-Briar, blackmail her"
Two minutes later: "let's make her Jarl"
Well Maven is a supporter of the Empire and has power so she's a good Jarl choice during the Civil War. For now
@@metetural9140 Considering she´s willing to keep her murderer of a son locked up despite very well being able to let him walk free... Also listen to her dialogue about her grandkids and how she scolds her heir.
@@macchernac8922 ..Maven doesn't have any grandchildren.
@@coffeepoweredkatie6290 In game dialogue where she´s talking down to her youngest son for sleeping around with Helga from the Bunkhouse. Bethesda left a lot of unfinished stuff.
Man, breaking into Mistveil Keep is definitely the most anxiety-inducing of any castle for me. I've always loved Riften's blend of wealth and depravity.
My favorite city
I wish the nightingale armor had a blank version like the brotherhood armor,so you could enchant it the way you wished.
I have something i discovered randomly in skyrim, it doesnt really have anything to do with riften, but here it is: You can get your followers "stuck" by giving them the command to interact with the stones (sunstone, waterstone, etc.) on solstheim, but they only get "stuck" if they are still corrupted (btw they only get "stuck" for a bit of time and the followers talk like everyone else on the influenced by the stones)
This new series about the cities is good Nate, I would love to see more!
After tons of Skyrim trivia, I thought You could not freshen up your repertoire, but you've surprised me pleasantly with these city vids. Its feels like they provide a new perspective.
Gergő Kurucz Hear, hear!
@T A R I Could you provide a few examples with proofs? Granted, i dont remember every single detail he shared with us, there is just too many of it by now, but when he reuses some, he tells it in the actual video and I do, indeed, remember hearing it already. So far, in his city-themed videos, I believe I did not encounter such "recycling".
@T A R I I've seen all and dont remember these specific details. Thats why i asked you for some proofs. Could you provide any?
@T A R I In other words you cant.
Sad that Brynjolf wasn’t a marriage candidate.
Sorry lass, I have important things to do
@@douglasnilsson2029 Trust me.... it aint the girls who are into Brynjolf.
@@CyberController- wait a second, that's GAY!
@@jayk4828 Well I do live with millions of men. Then again, they are my brothers, so......
Honestly, so true. I wish they made him marriageable.
Last time I was this early Helgen hadn't been barbecued yet.
"Thriving business district"
3 stalls
Neoshenlong Archivo 2008 - 2011 stalls*
@@ellisbarnett0292 Thanks!
*3 stalls, 1 blacksmith, 1 inn, 1 meadery, 1 pawned prawn, 1 alchemy shop
@@sameersachan8427 don't forget the fishery
I had no idea Maramal or Dinya wer even married, let alone to each other.
Would love a video about facts of werecreatures
Whoa there, before I let you onto riften, you need to pay the tax...
What for?
@@dr.jiggles2447 for the privilege of visiting the city of course, what does it matter?
@@redwind5150 your obviously a theif. I kill thieves
Not if I use the sewer to get in!
@@jbrisby or glitch my way in using the alternate start mod...
Depending on how much money you have Brynyolfs dialig will change when you first enter the hold.
How much do you need?? I had like 23,000 when he approached me. I KNOW he's not more rich than that based off the state of the Thieve's Guild.
Man nates gonna dump LOADS of videos when the elder scrolls 6 comes out
Nate is going to have five children and two grandchildren when The Elder Scrolls VI arrives
Couldn't have been Cicero, he came by boat, as noted in his journals. And landed in dawn star, which is surmised by you running into him taking the night mother between dawn star and whiterun. Hinting that his path was dawn star straight south
Are you telling me this man literally sailed all the way from Bravil, down the Lower Niben, through the Topal Bay, and either through Dominion-controlled waters or An-Xileel-controlled waters for the length of the entire continent into Dawnstar instead of just passing through the Jeralls into Falkreath?
@@heresthadude1080 I mean, his journals tell you that specifically he went by boat and landed in dawnstar before spending time in the dawnstar sanctuary. That isn't a guess or opinion. However, i honestly think it makes more sense for him to take off from hammerfell after heading northwest from brazil, away from the foreign lizards and crazy genocide altmer, and instead through safer imperial land, comparatively. I don't remember, as its been years, but i believe the journals say that too, but thats the only part i dont remember clearly. Read his journals
Last time i was this early to a video Karliah was still dating Gallus
What I found most disappointing about Skyrim's factions is that so many of them are not what they were in Oblivion. Dark Brotherhood, the Thieves Guild the Mages Guild (which doesn't even exist anymore) and the Fighters Guild that doesn't even have a presence in Skyrim.
It was almost devastating
Agreed
I mean, that's not a bad thing, but Skyrim makes it a bad thing.
I agree. I recently played Oblivion again and had a great time playing all four Guilds and loved the rules and whatnot. In Skyrim, the thieves don't emphasize helping the poor and don't care if you murder people to death which was a big no no in Oblivion and made it different than the DB. It could've been different and still fun in Skyrim, but the directions the guilds went (or lack thereof in Fighters guild) left me quite a bit disappointed for sure.
what is fighters guild
@@Smirving I bunch of milk drinkers
Riften went from my least favorate holds to my second favorate thanks to this video (im a falkreth fan forever :3)
Ross Johnstone Imagine being one of the few of the community that likes falkreath most and spelling it wrong
@@corbinbarron8772 i know spelling is not my strong suit. But falkreath is my favorate hold. I love the outdoor feel and im pro empire so that helps.
@@corbinbarron8772 Imagine watching a RUclipsr who mispronounces "Mistveil Keep" in a video about Riften, and then insulting someone in the comments for their spelling. Get it together dude.
Waiting for the guy to say Nate must say Skyrim is a thicc game
He already said it on a previous video
@@kingdavey90 we need to hear it again.
@@dr.jiggles2447 correct
It just blows my mind how far Nate has come on RUclips. Proud of you man.
2 minutes ago? last time I was this early I had gotten the Dragon stone before Farengar asked.
@@therealfirelord3359 no
I sometimes visit Riften just to beat up some thieves and then dip
things theynever told you about nates house: it has a shrine to Todd Howard and he have a picture of him on his fireplace
Actually there is a third pregnant woman in the province: Rhiada, who works at Markarts Treasury and is married to Eltrys ( the guy you help during the Forsworn Conpiracy quest). It's also interesting to know that Thonar Silver-Blood can sometimes be caught flirting with her: take a listen! ( Oh wait...)
I found it kind of annoying that you couldn't destroy the Thieves Guild like you could with the Dark Brotherhood. I think a questline of catching thieves and bringing Blackbriars to justice could've been fun.
Hell, given the distrust in Winterhold for the Mages College, it would've been cool to have a quest where the Jarl sends you to infiltrate the college and try to collapse it into the sea. Though that would be a really evil questline for sure, haha.
I think they planned to do it, but ran out of time.
LMAO, now all I can imagine is Maramol browsing books and seeing A Kiss, Sweet Mother and just going "Oh that sounds wholesome."
Last time I was this early, Riften was still Rifton
When he said, they have dialogue that definitely confirm she is pregnant I expected very sarcastic openly obvious words that extremely strongly hinted at them, “can’t believe your expecting a child”
Up next: Five things they never told you about Rolling Rock.
wait do you mean Raven rock or am I just dumb
*Weeb detected, lethal force engaged*
Fact #1: there are far better beers.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 PBR has entered the chat.
@@oscarpie6751 It was a pun. Just getting ready for the eventual AVGN Skyrim episode that's bound to happen someday.
your videos make me so happy. i literally love just sitting and watching your videos for literal hours. thank you for making videos.
I was walking in solitude the other day, a guard said "psst I know who you are, hail sithis."
Awesome. It's nice to come home from work to new uploads from several favorite creators.
What they never told you about Riften: there's an alchemy shop there.
Four hundred hours in Skyrim before I stumbled on that place.
harrissun I found it pretty fast due to its location near the water I dump all my bodies in
You didn't take Ingrid Black-Briar's stupid ingredients quest then? You lucked out. My journal will never be clear. She'll get my nirnroots over my cold, dead body.
@@therealfirelord3359 I fell into her trap, that fucking quest is still haunting me. Even worse than Balimund's goddamned fire salts
When I start a new character I immediately start saving up nirnroot specifically for that quest.
Ingrid's quest will get you there
Brynjolf has been running this elixir racket for ten years, just hoping some stranger shows up to actually steal and plant the ring, meanwhile every single member of the guild is sitting on their ass downstairs. No wonder they're struggling.
twelve seconds in so far but I’m already gonna say this is a great video ⚔️ I am fckn loving this city series!
Love the content man. I had to play a nonupdated Skyrim for a while since I had no internet and your videos kept me sane. (Was able to watch RUclips but couldn’t download anything. Very annoying) Hope you have a wonderful day!
Isn't Anuriel Bosmer? Maybe the mod that is used made her look more High Elf and that caused the confusion.
No mods
There was a mod in use because that is not Anuriel's default hair, but yes, Anurial is a bosmer.
@@nathanlunn5925 dont use em
@@misterturkturkle Perhaps you don't, but there was a mod in use in the video because that was not Anuriel's default hair. Look at her on UESP: en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Anuriel
I mean he called Shadr(the riften stablehand) a breton before so this isn't new
I was playing recently and heard a rare random dialogue between Maven and Branshei, before starting the ring quest. I didn't hear it well but Maven was very angry at Branshei for something and warned him. Never heard that dialogue trigger after so many replays.
When I saw the notification, I came here faster than Vipir the Fleet.
There’s my favorite commenter
Omg 🤣
This deserves top comment
For a second I thought that was a sex joke
Thank you for the effort of bringing new and new facts about the soon(ish) 10 years old game.
Maybe the Orc camps all around the outside of the map would be a good video. Those are rarely talked about
I love Riften. Both it's fall season and the thieves guild.
i am once again asking for Nate to call skyrim a ‘chonky game’
Oh lawd he comin'!
I don’t know if it’s already in a video, but during the dark brotherhood quest to kill an empire, if you wear a chefs full outfit (hat and clothes) when you confront the guards you can unlock some unique dialogue
I just discovered a place I never knew existed! It’s called “The Chill” and it’s north of the College of Winterhold on a large island directly against the invisible wall. Maybe you could cover it in a video. It’s a small cave but really strange
Kinetic KO it’s the prison of Winterhold
It's winterhold's prison lol
Brignolif is such a disrespectful npc, in my last playthrough I was talking to someone, and he just forcefully interrupted
I'd like to think that "A Kiss, Sweet Mother" was actually given to Aventus by Cicero in Riften. Come to think of it, how could a mere kid travel from Riften to Windhelm alone. He prolly had help escaping the city and was heavily influenced into performing the sacrament. I think it was Cicero. But since as a Keeper, he is not allowed to take any contract to kill, he merely influenced Aventus, rather killing Grelod himself. And we all know we can meet Cicero going to the direction of Whiterun from the North. Why would he come from the north? Visited Dawnstar maybe? Or Windhelm?
Astrid does kind of hint that Cicero took longer than expected getting to the falkreath sanctuary.
I knew all of these but I still watched. That's how charismatic you are.
Finally, you guys show the bit about the priestess of mara being pregnant! I've been commenting this on your videos hoping it would get covered! 💗 lol
technically the Riften bandit attacks are sort of referenced by the guards when they say "been too long since we've had a good bandit raid" so that can kind of be linked to that.
1 second in, already liked. No need to watch the video. I LOVE this channel.
One theory I had is... Dinya Balu was once an assassin from the dark brotherhood but had a change of heart after meeting Maramal and that book was hers when she was still part of the brotherhood. I've observed that dark elves in the setting of ES 5 worships the daedra, Azura is commonly worshipped by them and Dinya was the only one who worshipped Mara that much, not to mention she herself is a priestess. Not a solid theory though but a possible one.
14:28 He sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger!!!!!😂🤣🤣🤣😂
Hey Nate, found a thing. Azhidal's boots of water walking allow you to take absolutely no fall damage, provided you land on water.
Ah yems, Rimftem
Oh man, someone should make a cheems mod that just cheemsifies all the languages in-game.
In a weird sort of way I find the Dark Brotherhood a more ethical organization than the Thieves Guild. True story, I never have finished the thieves guild questline.
hi hey hello hope you’re doing great today and you’re a beautiful person
when we join the thieves guild we don’t see byrineolf after he says he’s busy in the streets trying to scam people
My theory about the black sacrament book is that Cicero knew that the orphans were being abused and casually gave them the book hoping one would run off and perform the ritual.
Hi Nate.got you an idea.start saying intro ("skyrim is a big....")in diffrent languages.just for fun.Love from iran😊😊😊
Ive seen the notes in her room but never knew it had a meaning this deep. I remember the conversations with both of them. Never knew they had a secret relationship
When Nate runs out of video ideas: DID YOU KNOW THAT RIFTEN HAS 3 GATES?
I love that the closed captions at 8.14 says "so this kid would have both a human and elephant" and then continues to talk about "crossbreeding between men and myrhh". Such good value on top of an already awesome video :)
And "Mistveil Keep" is now "Mr. Bell keep" lmao
I absolutely love brynjolf’s voice. I’m a huge sucker for accents like his.
i have planted the ring on brand-shei, but avoid having him be arrested by quickly entering the orphanage and killing grelod, when i returned back to the market later brand-shei still had his stall open and continues to sell me goods
Yay thank you!!! I've been waiting for this one!!!!
okay i love the theory about the a kiss, sweet mother book but i’m so in love with the idea of the developers of skyrim are sitting in the temple looking over everything and todd just goes “why don’t we just put this here to confuse the shit out of people” and everyone just goes “yeaaaaaaaahhhhh!”
Oh my heart🥰 I’ve never heard that conversation between Maramal and Dinya Balu