"People don't know what to think of it" I saw a brand new V90 Cross Country when on business in Chicago. Stopped at Alexander's Cafe in Elgin for breakfast. This older guy (of course) drives up in one. I ask him quickly, "Hey, those V90s look great. You like it?" He loved it. And then three or four other people walked up and asked, "Whats a V90? It looks great!"
People are just hating on the rear! I like it because it is very unique and not those boring rectanglish lights you see on every car nowadays. That design will be hated on first glance but it will grow on you a lot
I own a 96 855 GLT and a 98 S70 T5. I absolutely LOVE the power that the turbo'd 5 cylinder inline produces. My friend has a 2015 XC90 T6 and that turbo'd inline 6 is a BEAST. As a premium option, I'd really like to see Volvo offer a supercharged, turbocharged inline 6. I think that would produce plenty of power, sound great, and, knowing the ingenuity of Volvo, it would probably outdo it's competitors in a breeze..
Serial Volvo owner---and yes 2 of them have saved me from serious injury when they were totaled by other cars. I understand the eco/Swedish side of Volvo and the biz/Chinese owned side....they should offer a v6 supercharged similar to a jaguar. They should offer a polestar for all models...only way to compete with the big boys. EV tech is still immature for most drivers and Volvo lacks a charging station network, which I think is essential to broad market acceptance. Polestar is performance...EV should just be another portfolio option. Great review....thank you
I like what they used to do, which was I5's, I6's, and V8's. I drive a turbo I5 manual Volvo wagon, and I love it. I think they should offer I5 and I6 turbos as the Polestar models, not just hopped up four cylinders.
thank you, your reviews are becoming the best auto reviews on youtube in last few months, imo. (the bmw 530i review (comparision with 540, e class etc).was stunning). Those books and the big picture view of the car industry youre brining in is superb! Regarding the premium question in this video- i think it means "added value which costs more", so every feature must be "better" from the base car (a transport vehicle) somehow- the noise isolation should be better, the seats must be more adjustable, usability first , etc.
I drive a 2001 BMW 750iL and i get between 17 and 19mpg around town, thats a 12 cylinder getting better economy than a turbo 4. That is just crazy and makes me wonder why we as consumers gave up the 8's and inline 6's for crappy turbo 4's. I have to admit though, I do love the Volvo S90. The interior is beautiful, the engine really is pretty good and the exterior is a mondern car that finally looks good and different from all the cookie cutter aerodynamic blah designs out there. I really wish Volvo would bring back their inline 5 or 6, then I would have no choice but to buy an S90.
The Volvo 4 cylinder has more horsepower than your v8 750. 750 is an 8 cylinder not 12. The reason they went away from the 8 cylinder for just that reason this is a 4 cylinder with more horsepower than your 8
Thanks for this. I have a 2015 S60 T6 FWD that I just got , 35k, black on black. really the nicest car I've ever had, but I'm thinking in a couple of years I'll get one of these, 2 years old with the CPO warranty. because they're just that good. If they offer a Polestar upgrade, I'd go for that, obviously. And thanks for the music tip!
Great Video Blog! I just purchased a 2018 Volvo S90 Inscription and I'm getting it Polestar tuned. The T8 version of this car only seems to be the strongest with a full charge. It sounds like Volvo's direction is to offer all vehicles with electric engines by 2020. Depending on your location, I'd be happy to let you review my car when it gets delivered in a few weeks.
You just have to enable the individual driving mode and you can tailor it using any setting from either of the three presets and combine then into one driver mode. Its in the My Car settings. Then once its enabled and you pick your settings, it displays in the drive mode selector page just like youd normally select one of the three preset settings.
when it comes to separate steering, suspension, engine settings, etc., I thought that there was an individual setting for custom tuning? See if that helps!
You should have taken that beautiful S90 to see Bryan Ferry at the Hollywood Bowl... I love THAT vehicle..! I think the S90 looks best in the color mussel blue with the blonde interior. It's an 11.
I own a C70-2 with non turbo 5 cyl. I wouldn't say it's luxury premium, but it's not mid market either... Anyway I had an opportunity to drive a T8 XC90, and while I love the idea of PHEV, it did NOWHERE near as good as the numbers suggested. Plainly, a better engine is needed. A V6 probably would fit better than a 5 cylinder.
I think Volvo's best bet is I the T8 twin engine system. I wouldn't own a pure electric car yet because I live in a large dense city, and it's difficult to get reliable access to chargers. I like the idea of being able to plug in as much as possible, but not have a problem when you can't get access to a charger. The problem with the T8 is the price. it is at a significant premium over the other engine options, which is understandable because it's much more complicated. However, the BMW 530e iPerformance is almost the same price as the entry level turbo four. Maybe Volvo can keep their turbo four cylinder strategy, but offer several twin engine choices with different batter packs and levels of electric performance. To me that would look like a small upgrade over the T5 performance, but greater efficiency. Then perhaps they could tune the T8 to offer a sub 4 0-60 o compete with the M550i, E43 or Tessa Model S.
2013 XC60 T6 (3.0 liter I6) RDesign with Polestar Optimisation - It is a reliable robust car for a lot of rural driving with good Safety tech and it is comfortable and easy on long trips. I really like the new SPA based cars and I understand the design value of going to just I4 engines and the T8 for me would be a really nice replacement and the T6 I4 would be worth considering. I think "premium" is marketing - but they are a very pleasant safe and comfortable vehicle and I think that if you are not after a harder edge drivers car then they represent a great compromise Sadly in Aus you can only get T8 in RDesign and T6 in R or Inscription and now very pricey - so maybe just keep what I have till the pricing model here gets a bit more rationale
They should do electrified Polestar vehicles equivalent to AMG and skip the hybrid stuff. But realistically, it will end up being a hybrid just because the electric charging infrastructure isn't wide-spread enough, especially in Canada. IHMO, they also need to get the coupe / convertible version of this car into production to reinvigorate the brand further. I currently have an 2016 XC90 Inscription T6. Definitely premium due to quality of interior, fit and finish and awesome B&W sound system ... this is a road-trip machine! And dynamic mode is very, very good. We are spoiled by tech advancement these days and expectations are very high because even as recent as 7 years ago, the quality and performance of my XC90 would have been considered an absolute wonder.
I have a 2017 Volvo S90 T6 Inscription AWD and it would be smart for Volvo to offer a V6 variant. I think for a lot of guys, a 4 cylinder won't do. I personally think the 4 cylinder supercharged and turbocharged engine is enough power.
Various test drives of the T8 system says it's not integrated sufficiently to be worth the price. The 500 lb penalty will kill any pretense of nimble handling, even if it can grip the road.
The reason the parking brake keeps applying with your seatbelt off is because the auto hold function is enabled. Turn off the auto hold and you can drive all day without a seatbelt
4:15 I need to go back and check this tonight but I'm pretty sure I drive off my garage every morning without a seatbelt on (just because I need to stop and go a close the gate manually). I have a V90CC.
I drive the XC90 with the (Yamaha) 8 cylinder and hope that Volvo will add this as an option for the new S90 and XC90. I will place an order right away.
MM, nice drive in this new Volvo. As for another premium gas or electric, electrics are cool. Just five hours ago, I drove the Honda Clarity Electric. I'd already driven the Clarity Hydrogen and am signed up for the Clarity Hybrid (not out yet). I do like electrics and see them as the future to save this horrid environment vs. fossil fuel. The biggest problem with today's electric is, of course, the range. The only electrics I could reasonably drive to Northern CA from The OC are the Teslas and the Bolts. I can't afford the Teslas and the Bolt is possibly too small for a trip up north with all of our baggage, etc. The latter is yet to be seen, of course. For contemporary life, the best compromise for long distance travel is a hybrid vehicle. I had a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid which filled that bill. Of course, you're thinking I was just questioning the size of the Bolt and lived with a Civic Hybrid.... hmmm... Well, the Civic was not a great size but doable. As an aside, glad to see you ventured out to Angel Stadium with the Volvo. It is only five miles directly south of your humble abode. Sorry we missed you. We were there a couple of weeks ago. Have a cool weekend!
this car (and the other new Volvos) screams for a 5 or rather a 6 cylinder... and i would rather have an underperforming 6 than an overperforming 4.... great cars need svelte, smooth operating engines. It articulates what 'freude am fahren' means (dont' shoot me for steeling the phrase from Bmw) currently have a 2017 E220 and a 2007 E320. The new 220 drives very refined for a 4 cyl but i still prefer the older but more enjoyable E320....
I drive a 2006 Volvo s60, I love the car. This one is very nice, I like the blue color, and pretty much everything about it. I totally agree, Volvo new interiors are among the most attractive in the entire car industry. I do agree that having some engine option of a V6 turbo, or something would be great, but it's not important to me. I'm not caring much for performance and power in an automobile. I like confidence, capability, features, design, etc. Which is why I love Volvo! And yes I don't like everyone calling everything a sport sedan or whatnot. Volvo's are not sport cars.. even with their top engine options, they are just capability, and not sports driving. There's a real difference to those ideas. I want comfort, design, features, durability, reliability, value. Volvo does this perfectly in my opinion, and they do it the best in the industry from what I can tell. Also I'm not sure exactly what you were looking for in a question of premium.. but I do consider Volvo premium (low-end luxury). For me , it's a segment many do not appreciate. I'm skeptical about the T8 variants.. but I got to admit, I would be able to drive to work and bak each day on pure electricity, which would be cool I guess (not like it costs a lot in gas, anyway though)
I drive a v60 R-design with the T6 turbo and "polestar tuning". I would have bought the full polestar if they had a model with adjustable stocks similar to Audi and others with on the fly adjustment. In Canada we have some terrific roads in the summer and some real crappy winters where things get very rough. I love having the space of the wagon with the dynamics of a sport sedan. However I'm thinking my next vehicle will have to be something other than Volvo because I want MORE low end grunt, quicker 0-60 performance. The supercharged/turbo charged 4 cylinders are overly complex systems with crappy mileage and still no better off the line. Volvo needs something to truely compete with AMG / M / RS models. At the moment my only options on the horizon in coming years are European spec Audi RS60's and AMG E series. I was really hoping the new V60 would have a Polestar model to really compete. It seems rather unlikely now that Polestar is a "separate" entity again doing electric. My hopes of an AWD 0-60mph in about 4 seconds volvo are gone....oh well.
Probably leaving Volvo when our S60 R design ('15) needs replacing for similar reasons. They're also flaky in a lot of other ways, which is annoying me.
The seat belt thing may be anoying, but it is better than a car that lets you forget to put it on when you get going. Lots of accidents happens when just going to the local market.
A very Swedish thing people say about the upper class in Sweden, is that the real upper class...has no need to brag, they enjoy it understated and away from the spotlight. It might just be us crazy Swedes...but I agree...understated luxury is really powerful, bragging is for the newly rich with insecurities!
16.6 is WORSE BY FAR than the I6 they ditched. I have never gone below 18mpg for any stretch and average 22.0 long term. And it gets rung out a lot and sits idling quite a bit.
Bruno TaTa I own a turbo I5 wagon with a stick, and I am constantly driving it hard, with little efficient highway driving and a lot of fun backroad driving. The trip computer says I'm averaging 25.7 MPG. It also sounds better and is more fun with the manual than the new ones.
They should at least update this car to a Hybrid Version of it (but without jacking up the price), so that would allow them to have instant torque for acceleration without 16mpgs. Stylistically and ergonomically this thing is very nice, its just missing that extra 5%, they're so close though.
It's a bit weak to let Polestar carry the electrics. Are they so scarde ther clientele will freak out to see a non-fuel Volvo in the 2019 catalogue? A premium volvo with a proper drivertrain should be totally awesome. Not even a need to equal Tesla's showoff performance. Just get the big battery in there, keep consumption in check.
Volvo does have, in they MY18 at least, a hybrid version: The T8, twin engine. I think that is quite premium... or better yet... given the price of it, I think Volvo think its premium at least ;)
Temperatures in LA have been around 100 - gets worse where we shoot - which is torture for him. We have decided to keep him home until it begins to cool down.
I cannot understand, why Volvo uses this big screen. Looks nice, but i can see how long you didn´t look on the street while tapping on the screen. Dangerous! How good is the voice commander/linguatronic?
I didn't know you could buy a new 2017 AMG E43 for about 60k with all the standard options that's offered with the T6 Inscription (or Momentum, which is even cheaper, albeit less equipment). I'll pay you $5k to negotiate that deal for me so you can still save me nearly $10k, or possibly even more. The 540i Xdrive makes sense, but it doesn't come with nearly as many features as the S90 similarly equipped, either. If you try to tick all the options required to match the equipment you're easily in 70k for the 540i xDrive. I mean, WHY even make that comparison?? I've driven all of those cars for a potential purchase and there's no way you're getting an E43 or 540i xDrive for the price of a T6 Inscription with the same features, unless they're branded titles. What you should be comparing to as far as price/feature availability would be E300 4Matic and 530i xDrive with all the option boxes ticked. I've driven the 300 and it's good, but VERY soft. You also left out the A6 which is probably a much better comparison but still at a premium. Way more reasonable and logical than a freaking E43 comparison. However, I do believe they probably need to rethink their drivetrains. A twin-charged I-4 has been done in the tuner world for over a decade now, but I just hope the actuators are robust enough for that transition from one forced induction platform to the other over extended use of a daily driver rather than a custom tuned car designed specifically for sport use. If you think about the model, it obviously makes sense from a cost consolidation perspective, and it'll be interesting to see how they involve more hybrid technology into their engines in the future given their unique approach to performance output vs efficiency. I would say it just kind of sucks right now to be part of the beginning stages of their long-term outlook for powertrain development. Could it be better? Of course! Is it more than sufficient if you know how to use what you have? Of course! However, it's not ONLY about maximum output, it's about the overall power band, and I didn't feel any 'lacking' power at or below 85mph. I didn't go higher than that because, why would you in that car? The powerband is eager nearly anywhere you press the pedal, which you certainly can't say with the E43, but definitely can with the E53 (which I've also driven...and is highly addictive). I honestly wish Volvo went with an execution like or similar to the 53 models, an electric motor (maybe not a mercedes like generator) for the low-end and then probably a little bit larger turbo for the mid to top end. This would also increase PHEV-capability and maybe off-set weight required with the supercharger and all the extra plumbing. Baby steps, I suppose...
The S90 is not premium enough, it has the looks but not the options and the engines of a premium car. Way to little options for interior trim and leather colors. And about the engine...4 cylinders are ok for motorcycles, not for cars. I really dislike 4 cylinder engines. The S90 needs a 3.0 liter 5 cylinder and no less then that, also non ev possible. They want to compete with BMW and Mercedes, but they are for sure not there yet. I drive a BMW E60 525xi with full options, like comfort seats, that feels premium to me. I love the look of the S90 but i want a new 5 serie G30 in the future with the proper 6 cylinder engine.
Volvo is not alone. My BMW 5:er does annoying stuff as well. If I open the door to check on curbs while maneuvering the car slams the gearbox into parking while rolling gently sending a severe jolt into the gearbox. It's not particularly consistent either. Some times it will allow me. Some times it won't. It's annoying as h*ll.
Reliability? In Africa here we have crappy roads & limited dealerships, which means they stick it to us on price, from the posterior right into the mouth (pardon the graphic illustration, but it’s apt). I’m in a 2004 Volvo S80 2.0T & am unhappy with the dealer & mechanics to the point of being put off, love the car but it’s a money-pit, thanks to them😭
It looks like a BMW 7 Series, have Volvo poached one of their designers, or is it the computer throwing up the same designs these days !! Look at Land Rover .....All look the same ??
The seat belt parking brake thing is soooo stupid and would be so frustrating... The front looks pretty good but the rear end looks a little like Chinese knock off ish... What it knocking off I have no idea.
Why are you surprised that the auto maker of a Nanny State country, sold to a statist/communist country, would have a Nanny state mentality towards your seatbelt?
"People don't know what to think of it"
I saw a brand new V90 Cross Country when on business in Chicago. Stopped at Alexander's Cafe in Elgin for breakfast. This older guy (of course) drives up in one. I ask him quickly, "Hey, those V90s look great. You like it?" He loved it. And then three or four other people walked up and asked, "Whats a V90? It looks great!"
People are just hating on the rear! I like it because it is very unique and not those boring rectanglish lights you see on every car nowadays. That design will be hated on first glance but it will grow on you a lot
Peter Ambrose yeah i didn't like it also..but saw it in person it wasn't that bad
This car looks a lot better in person than it does in pictures or video. It really is a stunning looking car.
I own a 96 855 GLT and a 98 S70 T5. I absolutely LOVE the power that the turbo'd 5 cylinder inline produces. My friend has a 2015 XC90 T6 and that turbo'd inline 6 is a BEAST. As a premium option, I'd really like to see Volvo offer a supercharged, turbocharged inline 6. I think that would produce plenty of power, sound great, and, knowing the ingenuity of Volvo, it would probably outdo it's competitors in a breeze..
I have to say your reviews have gotten better and better the past year or so....well done!
They should do more I5 engines. They sound so good.
Nathan Plummer definitely! I have a '15, the last I5 they made - can't beat it!
Serial Volvo owner---and yes 2 of them have saved me from serious injury when they were totaled by other cars. I understand the eco/Swedish side of Volvo and the biz/Chinese owned side....they should offer a v6 supercharged similar to a jaguar. They should offer a polestar for all models...only way to compete with the big boys. EV tech is still immature for most drivers and Volvo lacks a charging station network, which I think is essential to broad market acceptance. Polestar is performance...EV should just be another portfolio option. Great review....thank you
I like what they used to do, which was I5's, I6's, and V8's. I drive a turbo I5 manual Volvo wagon, and I love it. I think they should offer I5 and I6 turbos as the Polestar models, not just hopped up four cylinders.
thank you, your reviews are becoming the best auto reviews on youtube in last few months, imo. (the bmw 530i review (comparision with 540, e class etc).was stunning). Those books and the big picture view of the car industry youre brining in is superb! Regarding the premium question in this video- i think it means "added value which costs more", so every feature must be "better" from the base car (a transport vehicle) somehow- the noise isolation should be better, the seats must be more adjustable, usability first , etc.
Totally disagree about seatbelt. Too many people die because they are too stupid to wear their seatbelt. Volvo is solving that problem.
I drive a 2001 BMW 750iL and i get between 17 and 19mpg around town, thats a 12 cylinder getting better economy than a turbo 4. That is just crazy and makes me wonder why we as consumers gave up the 8's and inline 6's for crappy turbo 4's. I have to admit though, I do love the Volvo S90. The interior is beautiful, the engine really is pretty good and the exterior is a mondern car that finally looks good and different from all the cookie cutter aerodynamic blah designs out there. I really wish Volvo would bring back their inline 5 or 6, then I would have no choice but to buy an S90.
The Volvo 4 cylinder has more horsepower than your v8 750. 750 is an 8 cylinder not 12. The reason they went away from the 8 cylinder for just that reason this is a 4 cylinder with more horsepower than your 8
Thanks for this. I have a 2015 S60 T6 FWD that I just got , 35k, black on black. really the nicest car I've ever had, but I'm thinking in a couple of years I'll get one of these, 2 years old with the CPO warranty. because they're just that good. If they offer a Polestar upgrade, I'd go for that, obviously. And thanks for the music tip!
I just want a new C30. Those were some hot fucking hatches. R Design c30s are bae.
Great Video Blog! I just purchased a 2018 Volvo S90 Inscription and I'm getting it Polestar tuned. The T8 version of this car only seems to be the strongest with a full charge. It sounds like Volvo's direction is to offer all vehicles with electric engines by 2020. Depending on your location, I'd be happy to let you review my car when it gets delivered in a few weeks.
You just have to enable the individual driving mode and you can tailor it using any setting from either of the three presets and combine then into one driver mode. Its in the My Car settings. Then once its enabled and you pick your settings, it displays in the drive mode selector page just like youd normally select one of the three preset settings.
Also the T8 is already available now for the 2018 S90s. Same power output as XC90 and XC60. Maybe this is an older recorded video...?
If you turn off auto break you can drive/back up the car without seat belt.
when it comes to separate steering, suspension, engine settings, etc., I thought that there was an individual setting for custom tuning? See if that helps!
There is, I have this car ;) Can choose between steering, brake, engine, climate, suspension settings and digital instrument panel design
You should have taken that beautiful S90 to see Bryan Ferry at the Hollywood Bowl... I love THAT vehicle..! I think the S90 looks best in the color mussel blue with the blonde interior. It's an 11.
I've tested Mercedes E class, BMW 5 series, Audi A5 sportback, Jaguar XF, but the best is Volvo S90! It's wonderful!
I own a C70-2 with non turbo 5 cyl.
I wouldn't say it's luxury premium, but it's not mid market either...
Anyway I had an opportunity to drive a T8 XC90, and while I love the idea of PHEV, it did NOWHERE near as good as the numbers suggested. Plainly, a better engine is needed. A V6 probably would fit better than a 5 cylinder.
You could put it in individual and seperate the suspension
I think Volvo's best bet is I the T8 twin engine system. I wouldn't own a pure electric car yet because I live in a large dense city, and it's difficult to get reliable access to chargers. I like the idea of being able to plug in as much as possible, but not have a problem when you can't get access to a charger. The problem with the T8 is the price. it is at a significant premium over the other engine options, which is understandable because it's much more complicated. However, the BMW 530e iPerformance is almost the same price as the entry level turbo four. Maybe Volvo can keep their turbo four cylinder strategy, but offer several twin engine choices with different batter packs and levels of electric performance. To me that would look like a small upgrade over the T5 performance, but greater efficiency. Then perhaps they could tune the T8 to offer a sub 4 0-60 o compete with the M550i, E43 or Tessa Model S.
2013 XC60 T6 (3.0 liter I6) RDesign with Polestar Optimisation - It is a reliable robust car for a lot of rural driving with good Safety tech and it is comfortable and easy on long trips.
I really like the new SPA based cars and I understand the design value of going to just I4 engines and the T8 for me would be a really nice replacement and the T6 I4 would be worth considering.
I think "premium" is marketing - but they are a very pleasant safe and comfortable vehicle and I think that if you are not after a harder edge drivers car then they represent a great compromise
Sadly in Aus you can only get T8 in RDesign and T6 in R or Inscription and now very pricey - so maybe just keep what I have till the pricing model here gets a bit more rationale
They should do electrified Polestar vehicles equivalent to AMG and skip the hybrid stuff. But realistically, it will end up being a hybrid just because the electric charging infrastructure isn't wide-spread enough, especially in Canada. IHMO, they also need to get the coupe / convertible version of this car into production to reinvigorate the brand further. I currently have an 2016 XC90 Inscription T6. Definitely premium due to quality of interior, fit and finish and awesome B&W sound system ... this is a road-trip machine! And dynamic mode is very, very good. We are spoiled by tech advancement these days and expectations are very high because even as recent as 7 years ago, the quality and performance of my XC90 would have been considered an absolute wonder.
I have a 2017 Volvo S90 T6 Inscription AWD and it would be smart for Volvo to offer a V6 variant. I think for a lot of guys, a 4 cylinder won't do. I personally think the 4 cylinder supercharged and turbocharged engine is enough power.
agreed, from a female owner of a 17 inscription AWD as well. i would even love a V8. More power please!
Various test drives of the T8 system says it's not integrated sufficiently to be worth the price. The 500 lb penalty will kill any pretense of nimble handling, even if it can grip the road.
The reason the parking brake keeps applying with your seatbelt off is because the auto hold function is enabled. Turn off the auto hold and you can drive all day without a seatbelt
You can also create an individual drive mode to separate suspension and engine settings
It does apply the parking brake without a seatbelt on. I know this when trying to get out of my driveway every morning.
Currently driving Volvo S40, loving that car! My next car will definitely be a Volvo.
4:15 I need to go back and check this tonight but I'm pretty sure I drive off my garage every morning without a seatbelt on (just because I need to stop and go a close the gate manually). I have a V90CC.
you can drive off without the seatbelt IF the throttle pedal is pressed, but you cannot creep fwd/rvs with no pedals pressed
I drive the XC90 with the (Yamaha) 8 cylinder and hope that Volvo will add this as an option for the new S90 and XC90. I will place an order right away.
MM, nice drive in this new Volvo. As for another premium gas or electric, electrics are cool. Just five hours ago, I drove the Honda Clarity Electric. I'd already driven the Clarity Hydrogen and am signed up for the Clarity Hybrid (not out yet). I do like electrics and see them as the future to save this horrid environment vs. fossil fuel.
The biggest problem with today's electric is, of course, the range. The only electrics I could reasonably drive to Northern CA from The OC are the Teslas and the Bolts. I can't afford the Teslas and the Bolt is possibly too small for a trip up north with all of our baggage, etc. The latter is yet to be seen, of course.
For contemporary life, the best compromise for long distance travel is a hybrid vehicle. I had a 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid which filled that bill. Of course, you're thinking I was just questioning the size of the Bolt and lived with a Civic Hybrid.... hmmm... Well, the Civic was not a great size but doable.
As an aside, glad to see you ventured out to Angel Stadium with the Volvo. It is only five miles directly south of your humble abode. Sorry we missed you. We were there a couple of weeks ago.
Have a cool weekend!
this car (and the other new Volvos) screams for a 5 or rather a 6 cylinder... and i would rather have an underperforming 6 than an overperforming 4.... great cars need svelte, smooth operating engines. It articulates what 'freude am fahren' means (dont' shoot me for steeling the phrase from Bmw) currently have a 2017 E220 and a 2007 E320. The new 220 drives very refined for a 4 cyl but i still prefer the older but more enjoyable E320....
I drive a 2006 Volvo s60, I love the car.
This one is very nice, I like the blue color, and pretty much everything about it. I totally agree, Volvo new interiors are among the most attractive in the entire car industry.
I do agree that having some engine option of a V6 turbo, or something would be great, but it's not important to me. I'm not caring much for performance and power in an automobile. I like confidence, capability, features, design, etc. Which is why I love Volvo!
And yes I don't like everyone calling everything a sport sedan or whatnot. Volvo's are not sport cars.. even with their top engine options, they are just capability, and not sports driving. There's a real difference to those ideas.
I want comfort, design, features, durability, reliability, value. Volvo does this perfectly in my opinion, and they do it the best in the industry from what I can tell.
Also I'm not sure exactly what you were looking for in a question of premium.. but I do consider Volvo premium (low-end luxury). For me , it's a segment many do not appreciate.
I'm skeptical about the T8 variants.. but I got to admit, I would be able to drive to work and bak each day on pure electricity, which would be cool I guess (not like it costs a lot in gas, anyway though)
I drive a v60 R-design with the T6 turbo and "polestar tuning". I would have bought the full polestar if they had a model with adjustable stocks similar to Audi and others with on the fly adjustment. In Canada we have some terrific roads in the summer and some real crappy winters where things get very rough. I love having the space of the wagon with the dynamics of a sport sedan. However I'm thinking my next vehicle will have to be something other than Volvo because I want MORE low end grunt, quicker 0-60 performance. The supercharged/turbo charged 4 cylinders are overly complex systems with crappy mileage and still no better off the line. Volvo needs something to truely compete with AMG / M / RS models. At the moment my only options on the horizon in coming years are European spec Audi RS60's and AMG E series. I was really hoping the new V60 would have a Polestar model to really compete. It seems rather unlikely now that Polestar is a "separate" entity again doing electric. My hopes of an AWD 0-60mph in about 4 seconds volvo are gone....oh well.
Probably leaving Volvo when our S60 R design ('15) needs replacing for similar reasons. They're also flaky in a lot of other ways, which is annoying me.
The seat belt thing may be anoying, but it is better than a car that lets you forget to put it on when you get going. Lots of accidents happens when just going to the local market.
I don't know that it's a question of SHOULD there be an electric. There will be a n electric.
A very Swedish thing people say about the upper class in Sweden, is that the real upper class...has no need to brag, they enjoy it understated and away from the spotlight. It might just be us crazy Swedes...but I agree...understated luxury is really powerful, bragging is for the newly rich with insecurities!
definitely stick the Yamaha V8 in it or even the twin turbo short in line 6 and please put a manual box in it
Absolutely there should be another option - an S100 full size sedan, but it should be LESS premium than the S90, to keep the price the *same*.
16.6 is WORSE BY FAR than the I6 they ditched. I have never gone below 18mpg for any stretch and average 22.0 long term. And it gets rung out a lot and sits idling quite a bit.
Bruno TaTa I own a turbo I5 wagon with a stick, and I am constantly driving it hard, with little efficient highway driving and a lot of fun backroad driving. The trip computer says I'm averaging 25.7 MPG. It also sounds better and is more fun with the manual than the new ones.
Actual drive: Merc E300 hybrid. Volvo should go polestar on this one. S90 hybrid (diesel or petrol) polestar.
They should at least update this car to a Hybrid Version of it (but without jacking up the price), so that would allow them to have instant torque for acceleration without 16mpgs. Stylistically and ergonomically this thing is very nice, its just missing that extra 5%, they're so close though.
I have a 2001 Volvo S80 2.4 and a Volvo V40 D3 both 5 cylinders :)
It's a bit weak to let Polestar carry the electrics. Are they so scarde ther clientele will freak out to see a non-fuel Volvo in the 2019 catalogue? A premium volvo with a proper drivertrain should be totally awesome. Not even a need to equal Tesla's showoff performance. Just get the big battery in there, keep consumption in check.
This is getting replaced by the longer Chinese version for NA. S90L coming for 2018
kevin n that's good. Unfortunately the trunk will be the same size though, yes? I need a larger trunk as well - I need an S100. ;)
Oh yeah. My 2001 Volvo S80 is premium, but I'd trade it for one of these.
They did great till they got to the end and just thought .. we need to fuck shit up a bit.
Are you able to well see the screen while driving with that much sun glare ?
Volvo does have, in they MY18 at least, a hybrid version: The T8, twin engine. I think that is quite premium... or better yet... given the price of it, I think Volvo think its premium at least ;)
Doesn´t the stop sign mean You have to go in to a full stop there?
IF you turn Off the auto hold you do not have to Take your belt on.
It's the same way my 2015 BMW 535i is set. It's not just Volvo that he should be pointing his finger at. Volvo XC90 o S90 might be my next car.
Waw... I like It Friend
5 cyl with super & turbo chargers :))
MotoMan, Kumo and a new camera please
Temperatures in LA have been around 100 - gets worse where we shoot - which is torture for him. We have decided to keep him home until it begins to cool down.
100... Electrify the top trim is certainly not a bad idea.
I cannot understand, why Volvo uses this big screen. Looks nice, but i can see how long you didn´t look on the street while tapping on the screen. Dangerous! How good is the voice commander/linguatronic?
I didn't know you could buy a new 2017 AMG E43 for about 60k with all the standard options that's offered with the T6 Inscription (or Momentum, which is even cheaper, albeit less equipment). I'll pay you $5k to negotiate that deal for me so you can still save me nearly $10k, or possibly even more. The 540i Xdrive makes sense, but it doesn't come with nearly as many features as the S90 similarly equipped, either. If you try to tick all the options required to match the equipment you're easily in 70k for the 540i xDrive. I mean, WHY even make that comparison?? I've driven all of those cars for a potential purchase and there's no way you're getting an E43 or 540i xDrive for the price of a T6 Inscription with the same features, unless they're branded titles. What you should be comparing to as far as price/feature availability would be E300 4Matic and 530i xDrive with all the option boxes ticked. I've driven the 300 and it's good, but VERY soft.
You also left out the A6 which is probably a much better comparison but still at a premium. Way more reasonable and logical than a freaking E43 comparison.
However, I do believe they probably need to rethink their drivetrains. A twin-charged I-4 has been done in the tuner world for over a decade now, but I just hope the actuators are robust enough for that transition from one forced induction platform to the other over extended use of a daily driver rather than a custom tuned car designed specifically for sport use. If you think about the model, it obviously makes sense from a cost consolidation perspective, and it'll be interesting to see how they involve more hybrid technology into their engines in the future given their unique approach to performance output vs efficiency. I would say it just kind of sucks right now to be part of the beginning stages of their long-term outlook for powertrain development. Could it be better? Of course! Is it more than sufficient if you know how to use what you have? Of course! However, it's not ONLY about maximum output, it's about the overall power band, and I didn't feel any 'lacking' power at or below 85mph. I didn't go higher than that because, why would you in that car? The powerband is eager nearly anywhere you press the pedal, which you certainly can't say with the E43, but definitely can with the E53 (which I've also driven...and is highly addictive). I honestly wish Volvo went with an execution like or similar to the 53 models, an electric motor (maybe not a mercedes like generator) for the low-end and then probably a little bit larger turbo for the mid to top end. This would also increase PHEV-capability and maybe off-set weight required with the supercharger and all the extra plumbing.
Baby steps, I suppose...
...but any car driven fast they will use more fuel
I drive a 2015 Renault Duster :) (i live in 🇲🇽)
The S90 is not premium enough, it has the looks but not the options and the engines of a premium car. Way to little options for interior trim and leather colors. And about the engine...4 cylinders are ok for motorcycles, not for cars. I really dislike 4 cylinder engines. The S90 needs a 3.0 liter 5 cylinder and no less then that, also non ev possible. They want to compete with BMW and Mercedes, but they are for sure not there yet.
I drive a BMW E60 525xi with full options, like comfort seats, that feels premium to me. I love the look of the S90 but i want a new 5 serie G30 in the future with the proper 6 cylinder engine.
Being a Volvo it will last and last and last forever! Longevity like Honda and Toyota and Mercedes!
Volvo is not alone. My BMW 5:er does annoying stuff as well. If I open the door to check on curbs while maneuvering the car slams the gearbox into parking while rolling gently sending a severe jolt into the gearbox. It's not particularly consistent either. Some times it will allow me. Some times it won't. It's annoying as h*ll.
Reliability? In Africa here we have crappy roads & limited dealerships, which means they stick it to us on price, from the posterior right into the mouth (pardon the graphic illustration, but it’s apt). I’m in a 2004 Volvo S80 2.0T & am unhappy with the dealer & mechanics to the point of being put off, love the car but it’s a money-pit, thanks to them😭
The same day it would not allow me to park without the seatbelt, I will put it on sale.
I have Volvo s40 1.6 petrol(gas)I will happy trade my car for new V40.S90 just a dream even 4 cylinder.London
Tailgaters following you and seeing the huge VOLVO badge asked you what's that car? Cool story bro.
I drive a bike because driving age is 18 in South Africa ):
You put your foot into it and the fuel economy sucked .......... isn't that with ANY vehicle? Lmao
Bigger engines because most N Americans are prejudiced against 4 cylinder cars. I drive a poverty spec Porsche Macan S Diesel.
Volvo is great cars. But it's fuckn expensive than another in same type
I believe it's cheaper than the comparative E-Class or 5-Series
It looks like a BMW 7 Series, have Volvo poached one of their designers, or is it the computer throwing up the same designs these days !! Look at Land Rover .....All look the same ??
Where is the doggy
Sadly, it is just too hot for him out there right now. He will be back when the temperatures return to normal.
Audi a8 tdi...
For such a pretty car it has a sad rear end.
Electric all the way !
Sounds like you have bad habits that you think others have
That back end rear is absoultely hideous! So ugly!!
The seat belt parking brake thing is soooo stupid and would be so frustrating... The front looks pretty good but the rear end looks a little like Chinese knock off ish... What it knocking off I have no idea.
I will take a G90 over an S90
silkhead44 I would never buy a Hyundai.
Why are you surprised that the auto maker of a Nanny State country, sold to a statist/communist country, would have a Nanny state mentality towards your seatbelt?