Accurascale's New FNA-D Nuclear Flask Carrier Wagon | Unboxing & Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
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A full review of Accurascale's all new FNA-D nuclear flask wagon, one of the most super-detailed models I think I've ever seen!
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0:00 Intro
2:39 Unboxing
9:01 Prototype Info
9:59 Lighting
13:42 Detail
19:40 Performance
24:57 Ratings
28:02 Conclusion 
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A nuclear flask train is the only train you would ever see on the line from Appledore down to Dungeness. The formation used to be 2 locos, 2 flasks and a guard's van. A couple of Class 68's in DRS livery would make a convincing representation of this train. The derelict Lydd station recently burnt down. So there's an idea for a layout there - a burn down shell of a station and a nuclear waste train! Thanks for uploading.
I think it was Lydd Station that burnt down - New Romney (BR) went a long time ago...your point still stands, of course.
For a second, I thought you were saying that there were nuclear flasks on the Romney, Hythe & Dymchurch. 😂
@@RHTeebs There was originally a British Rail station at New Romney. The RH&D ran along side it. The line that the nuclear flasks can now be seen on is historically referred to as the New Romney line, although it now only goes as far as Dungeness.
I’m always intrigued by the transport of nuclear materials. It’s pretty interesting to see the kinds of rolling stock that haul the flasks.
I find it very interesting too! This was a lot of fun to look at :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I could be wrong but if they included batteries with these, it may well have caused complications and restrictions with shipping these models in bulk.
Indeed. It's more complicated to ship stuff with batteries to certain countries or in certain ways.
That's likely, as you've added something new to the supply chain, installation and likely needing different licenses
Usually those restrictions only apply to lithium batteries. I've never heard of any restrictions on button cells. Very strange to not include those, or the magnetic wand for that matter.
correct - you can't ship air freight without additional complications. Batteries in plane holds a big no-no unless specially handled.
How do you get the batteries back out.?
You only ever see these wagons running in rakes of anywhere from 1 - 3 with two locos either double heading or top and tail so any amount of friction generated by the wagons is irrelevant really. Great video as always 👍
Hi Sam.
There aren't many realistic reason to run a triple or quad headed train, but a couple of nuclear flask wagons are absolutely one of them!
It nice to see manufactures making different and unpopular wagons, It looks great with the Class 20.
I think so too! I love seeing obscure wagons :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam I received my two packs (4 wagons) last week and I am really pleased with them. Fantastic detail, run perfectly, rotating axle boxes that work and the icing on the cake? the flashing tail light. I did exactly the same as you snapped one hook that holds the hood when installing the battery. I was forewarned about the NEM couplings so ordered some of Accurascale magnetic couplings, which fitted with no problem but unfortunately they made the wagons too close and caused buffer lock. I fitted Hunt Elite close couplings and these fitted very easily and negotiate my 3rd radius curves perfectly. As regards the running of wagons, where I agree they are not very free running however my 4 wagons run around my layout with gradients with no problem. Great review with everything needed to inform would be buyers, Bill.
The batteries aren't included because it really changes the shipping regulations. I'm pleased that the wand isn't included as I would end up with loads of them as the wands are the same for all the HYA hoppers which I also have several of.
I ordered two boxes of these direct from Accurascale and they threw the wand in the shipping box for free so really can't complain at all. I got the batteries from my local discount store for less than £2. All good from me!
What a fantastic day, you're reviewing a wagon I was considering buying, and I got my TMC order in today, watching this while I get that all out onto the track. :D
Great video Sam, and I think the score was spot on. Yes expensive but they are worth it. Details are great and minor issues apart, a rake of two is all that is required. 2 locomotives to go with them. The perfect consist. The batteries with the models is a shipping issue that every manufacturer has. I am not against expensive models, and in this case, it is a good price for the two. What a good video. Thanks. 🎉
Hi Sam delighted overall but confused why they didn't come with the magic wand! As the HYA and the GBRf wagons produced a year or so ago DID include the magic wands in all pack 1's penny pinching ir what! Excellent review there your a top chap and vois luck to you, your the best thing on UT! Cheers Nick Redshed.
Worth having a look on youtube for Operation Smash Hit. BR actually crashed a train at 100mph into a derailed FNA (original type) as a test.
Hi Sam, I'd recommend Accurascale's Mark V coaches to you. Won some and a Class 92 in a competition a month or so ago, and the coaches are, in my opinion, the best items of rolling stock I have
I'm really impressed with the detail Sam. I'm probably not going to get one of these for my layout, but they do look great.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Me too - it's really wonderful isn't it?? :D They sure do :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
These run as a Class 6 freight, 60 MPH maximum speed, Sam.👍
Ahh interesting - faster than I expected then!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The outward appearance of Accurascale's boxes give the impression the product is a high class model.
The guys at the Darby Test centre. Smashed a class 45 or 46 into one of the older types of flasks and wagon. They had it on its side and chained it to the track, then set the locomotive + 3 mk one coaches off to crash into the thing 😢😮. Didn't even scratch the wagon. Sadly the locomotive and coaches were reduced to scrap 😢
The flask involved is on show at The nuclear power station at Heysham and other than a few damaged fins is obviously undamaged.
Another great review !!! Even on the ones you like you don’t pull any punches
I'm assuming Accurascale will watch this, and hopefully they take the comments about the couplers to heart, and use them to improve the next generation of rolling stock. Like others, because you won't run many together, the drag caused by the axel boxes probably should not be an issue. Great review!
They look great. I've seen loads of these, having often gone out to see the 68s and 88s on the Hartlepool to Sellafield runs, always double headed (once even tagging a TPE 68 onto the front of the standard DRS pair). Sometimes they ran without a wagon, but the most I've seen on a working run was 4, and they usually run as a class 6, so top speed of 60mph. (I've seen a photo of a single 37 delivering 8, but that was a one-off.)
I want a pair, but can't justify them atm with my financial situation.
Watched a full length train through Dunbar earlier this year. 2 68s double heading 3 wagons to Torness (empty), ran back top and tailed.
Axle resistance in the model won't be a problem as the rake will be only 3 or 4 long. Sometimes you'll even see a single wagon being hauled by a pair of locos.
My primary school was, and still is, bordered on one side by a railway line. Occasionally, trains would roll slowly past, carrying an older, but still rather sinister flask. These were carrying material from the then new Sizewell Atomic Power Station, a few miles up the coast. The flasks were loaded on to trains at a special yard, just outside the small town of Leiston.
The trains were made up in a particular order, which sadly, I cannot remember nowadays, but it was a complete train for one wagon.
A couple of years ago, I was coming home from work, and at one point, I had to go under the railway via a small bridge. That morning, there was a Flask wagon and engine crawling across that bridge. I hadn't even thought about these things for ages, and here was one. The only reason I can think it was there, was at the time Sizewell 'A' station was being decommissioned, and the flask possibly had contaminated materials inside.
These are lovely looking models, indeed.(I love the miniscule padlocks on the Hazchem diamonds),Just the sort of thing I like to see. Nice one. 👍👍👍
Overall good review here Sam, they look like really nice wagons from accurascale, currently the only accurascale rolling stock wagon wise that I have is the IIA Biomass wagons but I would definitely be up for getting a pack of these, only thing I need to do is get two locomotives if the same class in order for it to be realistic, bit silly to not provide the wand for the lights, my biomass wagons and mk5 coaches came with the wand.
Thanks a lot David - and yeah that's right, I've seen shots of them running like that - sounds good! Yeah pity about the wand!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’m pretty sure those journal bearing end caps come off. You could remove them, then use very fine-grit sandpaper to reduce their diameter ever so slightly, then fit them back on; there’s possibly a slight amount of flashing on these parts that wasn’t entirely removed during assembly.
Great video, good job they don't glow fluorescent green in the dark! Although for a laugh I can see someone rigging one or two up! 🤣
That's so cool review sam
Wow, first impressions are fantastic. What a beautiful models Sam. We were immediately worried about the plastic of the flasks though tbh. As my other side does recognise plastics immediately (chief chemist), the first thought was... 'that's a lowest cost brittle ABS material flimsy made'..., and there we were..., immediately snapped indeed... Applying power pick-ups isn't exactly rocket science either. 2.5 Stars for quality from us. However, the models are absolutely beautiful. Pity about the quality issues and omitting pick-ups. But again, fantastic gorgeous models. Cheerio.
Ahh very interesting - if that's true, pity they used cheap plastic like that... that said, the piece was so thin that I can see it breaking quite easily regardless of the material!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Well it depends on the material for a great deal though. E.g., PVC is a softer material which can handle very fine latches quite easily. It wouldn't break. In the worst case a very thin film would have been scraped but PVC is a tad more costly.
The removable hood is not the flask itself. The actual flask sits inside and the cover acts as a 'solar-shield' to prevent heating in direct sunlight.
They look great with that class 20. They are definitely on my shopping list 👍 great review as alaways
Hey Sam, love your channel. It is just the greatest.
Thank you so much Bradley, appreciate it!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I got a free wand with mine (not in the wagon box, in a separate pack, but in the same postage package). Strange. The bit I don’t get is the variations. They all seem to be exactly the same apart from the large numbers on the top. Anyway, they are really good wagons in my opinion. Great review by the way. Thanks 😊
I ordered a pack of these wagons last week. Spoke to Accurascale today as they hadn't sent them out to ask why. They advised that the wand is out of stock but will be sent out to me separately when it's back in stock. No need to purchase one on top of the model. Thankfully I've got one of the wands already so it's not going to affect me. I am surprised Richard Aka New Junction didn't tell Sam about the wand. Interesting experience Sam had with the couplings and fitting the batteries. I will be very careful after seeing Sam's experience.
Great wagon review Sam’s trains, I think you should repair the roof of the toytown north station building because it starting to become loose at 9:10
They don't roll that easily, Sam that's OK you wouldn't see a whole rake of them anyway. If anything you'd add an Armored Personnel Coach with Military Armed Guards inside to escort these spent Uranium Fuel Rods to the Proper Disposal Facility. You'd also see the same thing for fresh replacement Uranium Rods going to the Power Plant or Station. Nice Models, Cheers!
Enjoyed your presentation. I received a wand with the twin pack and have fitted Hunt couplings to the pair.
Many thanks for sharing, very interesting that you received a wand - which pack did you get??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Hi Sam I chose pack A. Awaiting receipt of batteries to check out the rear operating light. Your subscriber base is a great achievement and nothing even in the States comes close.
I was a little surprised not to get a couple of batteries and a magnet as one does from other manufacturers. I contacted Accurascale and it something to do with posting regulations.
They are great models.
Such a unique wagon! Looks cool! You should pair it with some Class 20s, 37s or 66s if you do another running session or whenever Sams trains live is on again! Looked nice with the HNRail 20 later in the vid.
That's a great idea - I should use a pair of 20s for sure, as I can do that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I was surprised you didn't use your 68 with these Sam.
Awesome video Sam's trains
Compared to that recent Bachmann brake van these wagons are a bargain!
They look superb.
Small drop of lightweight oil on the bearings would likely free them up nicely. They are very nice wagons.
To be honest if the drag is because of the axle boxes, it will reduce when you start using them as the rubbing areas are plastic and will wear out quickly making it much easier to roll...
Just a quick note on fitting batteries, if you read the instructions, it tells you to separate parts 5 and six, thats the main part of the hood, and the back wall of the hood, that's the bit connected to the fine clips that everyone seems to be breaking, if you lift the main part of the hood up nice and slowly, whilst holding onto the back wall and the clips, the main part should separate easily without damaging the fine clips and brackets, parts 1, 2, 3 and 4... slowly and carefully does it, don't go mashing your sausage fingers into things !
hey sam, i lost a cat a year ago and your video's made me happy since im a train enthusiast. your a great youtuber and i want you to not go through what i did, please continue youtube channel. thank you.
Hi Sam,
I must agree, these wagons are fantastic! But seeing prototype pictures of them, you rarely see more than 4 in a train, and as Allanstrains has said 2 class 68 locos. So the idea of the drag on a long rake will not be an issue.
Keep up the great work!
Boa
I have never seen more than two. Two locos and sometimes DRS eascort coaches too when full.
If you want a expensive wagon then might I suggest the Polybulk wagon by Bachmann at £79.95 from rails of Sheffield. 😢 shame about the latch snapping off, yes they should have designed it with user usability in mind. Are you able to repair it?. I'm looking at getting a set, but now I'm worried about breaking it.
Accurascale are on fire. Wonderful products at a fair price. £37.50 per wagon is reasonable compared to the recent £50 Bachmann Dance Hall brake van with minimal detail (and wonky handrails on every example I've seen).
Very nice my friend. They look cool. Keep being awesome. U are the best
I'd like to see you re-do the Gordon's Hill rolling test after running these wagons on. If it's the axle boxes, they may wear in a bit.
Seriously impressive model. The quality of the text is fantastic, the little light that works is amazing to see. All the details under are not molded! These are separately made and glued... for a place no one ever look at...
Regarding the drag induced by the rotating axle boxes, it's no big deal at all because these wagons doesn't run in large trains, a pair is the regular consist size and if there are 4 it's an unusual sight, at least it was this way in France when nuclear material were hauled by train (but it's more or less a thing of the past thanks to environmentalists that goes "omg radiation" for no reasons and now the heavily armored rail cars equivalent of these ones have been more or less retired and everything is mostly transported on trucks if not anonymous flimsy white vans....).
And I think it's a fun detail to open a nuclear flask to put some energy storage inside ;)
Nice video Sam, I think you should Recreate the BR nuclear flask test and add in explosion effects in post for a RUclips short
But does Sam want to total one of his Peaks...?
Maybe in the future Sam may lose one to the scrap man in which he may be able to ask to use it as a prop
Awesome video today Sam beautiful wagons might have to get a pack
Thanks James - I can recommend it for sure! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, fantastic wagons, and almost a complete consist in one box. I find myself accepting the relatively high cost, but compared with other manufacturers who provide less in way of detail & quality for not a lot less in price they are better value. Shame though on the breakages, even in such skilled hands as yours. Serious models. Cheers
Good video mine arrived the other week fairly happy with it but would have been nice if batteries were included to save the faff trying to find somewhere which sold them that said I ordered directly from Accurascale and a wand was provided with it with no extra charge
Nice to have a Class 20 hauling the two nuclear flask wagons for a chance instead a Class 68.
Honestly I'm kinda happy the magnet is separate because of you have a few of these then you don't need more wands and I'm happy just using a magnet I already have at home
I seem to recall seeing that generally, they would be top and tailed, having engines at both ends.
I also had issues with the couplings…very delicate….and broke a small part getting the battery cover off.
Regarding the wand, according to Dave of Dean Park, it should be supplied with each order.
I'm not sure , but I think that the teeth under container are for moving it in/out of the waggon , like on a rack railway.
Hi Sam love your videos
So many exciting new models are coming out as of recent! Hopefully things will slow down soon or we'll never get to see that Hornby Class 87 review. 😆
haha that's true - the 87 is on the way soon hopefully! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks for the review. I will get a pair of these when a late livery 37 becomes available. On the matter of activating the tail light, could you place a small magnet on a post adjacent to the track at say the exit of a stabling yard so the light is switched in when the wagon departs and switched off when it is returned?
Sam do you have an accurascale manor and 37 on order . If so which ones?. Keep up the great work and your reviews really fo help when deciding whether to buy a model or not
Nice luckily had the chance to see a KUA flask this week?
Hi Sam, They look very nice , All the best Brian 😃
Thanks Brian- they sure do!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Really loving these wagons, shame the quality let them down but at least they run well
I'm gald Accurascale sold these as complete rakes, as they usually run nor more than two of them together behind two diesels.
The FNA nuclear flask wagons are quite famous for being in the 1984 test crash with a class 46 and coaches. It's been featured in numerous train crash documentaries and compilations.
It would've been better if the door on the flask opened to access the batteries instead of removing the flask sans door.. It too surprises me button batteries weren't included with an expensive model when cheap toys can come with them.
Additional shipping difficulties hardly worth it when you can buy a battery for a pound
Ideal consist for these is 2 or 3 of these towed by a pair of (DRS) Class 37s - one at either end of the train.
Brilliant video👍😊🤩
Interesting to hear your comments about the price. They come out at £37.50 each whereas you recently tested a straightforward four wheeled Bachmann brake van that had an RRP of £50 (near as dammit). By comparison, the Accurascale flask wagons are cheap as chips for what you get. In fact, Accurascale seem to be producing Rolls-Royces and selling them for the price of a Ford Focus which makes me worry that their sums add up. By the way, regarding the rolling resistance, I fit my brake vans with phosphor bronze pick up strips (even if they don't have any electrics) to make them a little draggy (as in friction, not wearing a dress) because it is very effective in stopping a train of wagons from hunting at slow speeds.
For comparison Bachmann's FNA wagons are £50 each. They aren't bad but are all plastic and don't have the rotating axle boxes, lights or sprung buffers. By these standards, the Accurascale wagons are a bargain.
I do love me some unsual wagons, IRL these are never ran in big rakes and always double headed for a little redundancy. I'd also say the flashy light is a nice compromise for DC and DCC users as I doubt you'd get that flash consistently from DC power
I do too! Thanks for sharing this too - glad to have the extra info! Exactly, the battery light removes any complication with DCC, but the down side is that it's a separate closed system away from your main controller... once you get a handful of those on your model railway, it becomes a pain!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, when you are talking about NEM sockets, could you add in correct HEIGHT please ? this could be done with a NEM plug-in Kadee coupler and a height gauge, so many NEM sockets are at the incorrect height, there IS a standard for this...
The axles aren't pin point bearings so there's bound to be a bit of friction where the plain axle passes through the bearing with the rotating part on the end. Perhaps a little light lube needed. Just a thought 🤔
I admit I was disappointed that Accurascale did not include the magentic wand with a model obviously designed to need a magent to turn on a feature. Especially at the price. However, once you unboxed it, the overall detail, the amazing attention to keeping it like the prototype, separate fitted parts that are all solidly made. In the end it this has impressed me, even at the price.
Regarding the batteries, even if the light was left on 24/7 the batteries would likely last well over a year just blinking.
Having a closer look at those catches, the are quite deleicate, but it looks like there would be a way to kind of move them, but whoever is doing it would have to be so very careful. Love the detail, but maybe they should not have been part of the retention mechanism when batteries need to be fitted
Sam did you see when they set a retired cl46 to literally smash into a flask wagon to test vulnerability of the flask wagon, They had tha wagon across the test track and the cl46 went over the top of it at high speed for no damage well worth seeking video out.
The drag factor really isn't an issue- these wagons rarely if ever move around the network more than two at a time. You'd never need to have a massive rake of 10+.
The older Bachmann FNAs will probably be cheaper on the second hand market thanks to these!
good vid on the channel saM NICE VID THANKS LEE
Will you make a review for the new Hornby castle class when it comes in autumn?
11:35 lol that is very true Sam
So realistic it will be setting off all the Geiger Counters you may have stationed around the layout. Truly sad about the lack of engineering concerning access to the batteries. And no wand - WTF (Wand To_not_be Found). But your review got 4 and 7/8 out of Five (nobody's perfect). Thanks for all you do. Until next time (long train horn here)!
I wonder… is Sam going to do the accurascale 37? I know other channels have gotten them…
Great video - Accurascale never fail to impress! Fairly certain you didn't give us early access to this one though? Not complaining though!
I agree about the batteries.
22:22 I'm really surprised about that Sam, maybe the platic is made out of a different material.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Luckily these nuclear flasks are incredibly safe. They test them by flying planes into them, running them into a concrete wall at 60mph and derailing the train with a truck to make sure they wont leak in the case of an accident :)
They look good with the class 20
I would imagine the axle boxes could become more loose over time, as the plastic grinds more room for itself.
Yes that's definitely a possibility - I will keep these running to see!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi sam i can rember when the ran a class 37 deltic at full speed into one those n flaskes to show the public they where safe
Hi Sam great honest review, i had issues with my set, they will get sorted, i will look into the axel box situation, its worrying that this issue will pop up in the revised class 66 Accurascale got off Hattons, i would rather have the pick ups from the wheels, i know the cost would have been a lot higher, not going to rate them until my issues are sorted, the Bachmann offering looks like a Railroad product. these are great wagons to be fair, the lack of batteries is very poor from Accurascale, they are sending me a wand when they arrive in stock, i will never buy another item like this from Accurascale again, the issues i had have put me off, i wonder how Revolution Trains nuclear flask wagons will fair compared to Accurascales offering, thanks for sharing.
You’ll never buy another item because a wand was missing which they are sending you?
@@Ste1952 No, I had other issues that could of been avoided , if you read what was written you would see I said another item like this! Batteries and wands are a no no for me in future.
The batteries you fitted are 1.55 volts, not 3 volts. Two of them will give you just over 3 volts. A little drop of oil in the bearing housings may improve the rolling quality of the wagons. Despite the couple of small problems you have mentioned, I agree that the wagon pack is definitely good value for money, and they are excellent models.
The batteries were 3 volts. And yeah maybe a drop of oil would help!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam have you seen bachmanns ho Hudson models look incredible and many American modelers think it’s the best bachmann model they ever made
I can't remember whether I've seen those or not - I do like a Hudson though!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love your channel and you make me laugh
I wonder, if the bogies, need a break in period, as a locomotive needs because they do have proper bearings
My thoughts- proper bearings are great for locomotives, but for rolling stock, needlepoint bearings in acetal plastic frames tend to produce the best results. What cars I've had with high-contact-area bearings (with and without rotating bearing caps) have never rolled as well as their needlepoint-equipped counterparts, so these results don't surprise me.
Mind you, rotating caps are a cool-looking feature, but unsuitable for anything that might be marshalled into a long rake. Fortunately, these FNA-D wagons wouldn't be.
I have to say that I have pre-ordered the Revolution Trains version (in both OO and N gauge) at £33 each
I have also ordered the Revolution trains version (as I could just buy the one). Not sure if I made the right choice seeing this though.
I got 2 packs and 2 wands separate in the original packing box. Did you chuck it out by mistake in the original shipping packaging ?
Spot of machine oil in the axle boxes? Ditto couplings?
i feel like the logic behind not having the magic wand would be that it allows all the models with the feature to be cheaper, and make them more accessible
If Thomas and/or any of his friends had/have to deliver these cars, they would have the absolute ash scared out of their ash pans. Especially for the fact that these cars haul radioactive materials!
I guess at the end we finally found out how Bullman got so big - chasing around radioactive waste