The thing you missed was MG are introducing semi solid state batteries in 2025, not only on the LM brand, but MG as well, giving 600 mile range, faster charge time, 800 volt architecture and above all ,safer, why buy an outdated EV, technology is making rapid advances, goodbye Tesla, hello SAIC
"Crash and Burn", not something you want to hear in relation to an EV. I'd take the BYD Sealion over the Model Y on looks any day. Prices are definitely getting to where they need to be.
I think, Dongfeng should be on the top of the list. In the price range under €30k, we had the choice between the Inster, the Grand Panda, ë-C3 Max and the Nammi Box. We tried the Citroën ë-C3 Max, but we found the Dongfeng Nammi Box Launch edition better on all specs, and €6.000 cheaper.
Hi Dave. You mentioned cheap 2nd cars. We recently bought a Dacia Spring as a 2nd run about and love it. Trips to town for shopping or visiting friends, charge up every 2 or 3 days when it gets to 40 ish %. Find the winter range of 110 to 120 is fine for our needs. Cheap and cheerful 2nd car. Our other car is a Kia Soul with a 270 to 300 mile range. 🚙
Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters… There are so many elephants that they will never fit in that room!
@@dcbickersteth Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters… There are so many elephants there that they will never fit in that room!
@@dcbickersteth Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters… There are so many elephants that they will never fit in that room!
@@gavkenny Yes, the range won't be it's strong point. Definitely down on our current Kona 64kWh. That said, we rarely use the full range of our Kona & haven't used a public charger in 2 years of ownership.
Unlikely to be suitable. If you need an extension lead get an electrician to spec one that can handle the high power for extended periods of time, they are out there but not in B&Q
Might look to replace my Zoe in 2025 ( the wife usually drives that), the Leapmotor small car looks like a possibility . My MG4 PCP also finishes at end of 2025 so might look to replace that as well, ideally something with a bit more range and higher charge speed but about the same size.
I love a coupé and the cupra Raval will definitly be on my list in 3 uears time. I curent have a Born, and id love this car but in my favourt format. Im old now, family all grown and flown, so i dont need space, so im back to cars of my yourth. After 30 years of mostly warm eststes. A quick estate is the perfect one car fits all when you have a family. Or even when you don't
Interesting stuff and the ev market is really staring to develop. We are on our 2nd ev and have just 1 gripe. Evs are becoming like computers on wheels, with everything needing programming, (took me a couple of weeks to get the My Renault App and the car account up & running. Putting more air in the tyres requires the on board computer to be updated in order for the warning lights to turn off. Simplification as an option or a base model might actually be a good idea for us older less tech savvy owners.
As my lease on our Citroen E-C4 ends we are looking for a little more range and space. So we had a look at the new Ford Explorer and Capri.... At a hefty £48,000 we were expecting a reasonable level of quality... But instead we saw two basic plastic filled cars, worse than a 1980s Fiesta. Dreadful scratchy plastics everywhere with a tin roof (Explorer) or glass roof (Capri). Ford are just nowhere even close to offering the public something interesting or value for money!
2029 is my guess. Until US and China have many years of FSD in routine use i doubt the EU and UK are interested. I think Tesla has lost interest as well sadly. Maybe if BMW or Mercedes had a good one, they'd change their minds.
@@EwanM11 Thousands of Americans will be driving almost every journey on FSD supervised from January. The noise of approval will reach all parts very very quickly.and the need for regulatory change/approval will be very clear.
@@simonpettit8548 maybe. The EU is already struggling with emissions regulations that domestic industry has no chance of meeting, that the Chinese can easily meet. I think its doubtful regulators are willing to hand the rest of their industry over to Tesla/Musk. Musk's ownership of Tesla will be a factor in the decision making process. So i think the EU will wait till the nvidia system used by Mercedes is of similar quality to FSD. And i think the UK will follow the EU, unless Wayve make really good headway which is extremely unlikely.
Answer me this if EV’s are the future, how does someone in a wheelchair charge their car? Cause these cables weigh a ton. This is a genuine question that a disabled woman asked me yesterday at work.
Always goid to hear your point of view Dave even if i dont always agree. Fiat have surrendered as a brand they used to ve the small european car champion not any more i dont know what they are thinking but rebadging Stellantis platforms at higher prices makes no sense and larger Fiats never seem to do well combined with likely poor depreciation. Any mention of + £30k cars rukes me out until they are around £10-15k so even the Inster is out for a couple of years. Nice to see a cheaper Chinese car us coming i think this is a key battleground for buyer acceptance. A subsidy on charger install to promote used sales as £1k is 3 years of petrol for some drivers and would promote used demand. Nissan us looking a dead brand needs rescuing, just poor public perception no small car entry point and dubious quality since their Renault hook up strange how Renault had moved on and left them behind.
There are quite a few elephants in this room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters…
I recommend that you test drive a couple, then create a list with your requirements and then try some more while you check the list. Your list should include towing, luggage space, economy, warranty, charging speed, range (it really isn't important if more than 250 miles), acceleration, top speed and tire prices and price for the configuration that will work for you. Remember to include your family for the test drives to make sure it fits
Specific recommendations are hard but I think Skoda Elroq (Elroq 60 or 85), Hyundai Ioniq 5 or the upcoming new BMW iX3 (Q3 2025) are interesting SUVs to check out
you totally underestimate how many countries have RHD cars and drive on the left: like Hong Kong, Japan, India, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, UK plus half of Africa. Not such a small niche market.
I have 2 MG EVs so clearly don't object to Chinese cars. I can't take BYD seriously because of the words Build Your Dreams on the back. If they move to BYD front and back I'd consider it - pretending it's the Welsh word. Byd = world or life
JCB have not gone electric, they do a couple of small plant equipment that is electric. The vast majority of their vehicles will ice running on hydrogen. The power/energy requirements is too high for battery. So their tractors, diggers and large excavators will all run on hydrogen in the future.
Not everyone buys a car because it's the most practical, cheapest, most economical, most space etc. some people buy a car because they like the way it looks; you could swap the badge on pretty much any of the Chinese and Korean EVs and most people wouldn't be able to to tell, and this is why MINI will sell loads of them. The Leapmotor TO3, is horribly ugly and cars of this kind should start at £9k. What is going on above the windscreen of that IM, looks alike a Waymo taxi? Can the spec and price overcome the huge lure of BMW, Mercedes and Audi in the middle management company car park?
Yes...plenty of head scratching on how some can get their vans to get over the Golden 100 mile range lmao! Of course that'll be about 80 miles when loaded up! But you can get a number of them for about 40% off the RRP price now....I wonder why??
@@stevecoinitin7521I ran a Peugeot e expert for 3 years . Carpenter by trade, van racked out full of tools and carrying fire doors I would average around 160 miles per charge. Covered 40k miles over the lease with not a single problem. Now run an id. Buzz cargo. Get around 240 miles per charge same condition. Good deal on 2 year lease.
JBC not that long ago where singing the praises of Hydrogen fual cell for their big yellow fleet ,but has the Bamford family smelt the coffee and gone electric hopefully but will they stop backing the Tories probably not you can't win them all.
A Bit curious to know whether Dave has reviewed or even bothered to mention the European car of the year. It’s omissions like that which really makes me question his ability to make correct and impartial judgements. No prizes for guessing which manufacturer it was and which country it’s from, which might go some way to explaining its absence.
@ I hear you, but it seems a shame really. You’ve got some great stuff on your channel Dave, but for some reason you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about French cars. A can’t abide Elon Musk, but it doesn’t stop from saying he makes great cars. Just a little more ‘fine tuning’ that’s all. Enjoying it all the same. Thank you.
What good can you say about a puma costing £32k with only a 43kWh battery. The Renault Zoe had that 9 years ago and at the time you could get a new one for under £20k. Maybe they'll do better later on after they've mugged the early adopting ford fans and dropped the price.
Problem is the electric car traction battery has been undergoing chemical mix changes since the birth of the Nissan Leaf and as the media has reported car manufacturers wish to remove the high energy lithium content which cause or help to cause thermal runner way and thereafter a chemical fire which is very harmful to the climate. Yes its very true ICE cars catch fire but they do not developed such a toxic chemical fire clouds and ICE cars catch fires can be extinguished very fast by the Fire Brigade. When an electric car is involved in a road traffic accident the fire brigade treat the electric car as a potential fire hazard as any kinetic energy through the electric car chassis is a potential traction battery compartment compromise and days or weeks later the traction battery can catch fire, so that is why the electric car manufacturers are trying to remove the lithium content from an electric car traction battery. Problem is we are in a massive oversupply of second hand electric cars on the market at the moment with lithium traction batteries so this is one reason why the general public are a little apprehensive in purchasing a second hand electric car. As soon as the electric car manufacturers move away from the traction battery lithium content the better.
Grow up. Down playing the dangers of any fire is irresponsible and dangerous as so is trying to equally create scare stories to suit a personal perspective. All car fires produce toxic gasses and run offs, petrol and diesel car fires included. Such fossil-fuel fires release gases including hydrogen chlorine, hydrogen fluorine, cyanhydric acid, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide amongst others all of which have high toxicity levels. Fossil fuel fires release toxic emissions as a fast moving gas cloud due to the excited nature of conflaguation based fires produced by fuels, which is why fire services wear breathing gear when dealing car fires. Further, unburnt fuel spill run-offs are toxic in themselves to the surrounding ground and water courses. Also, all vehicle fires released further hazardous gasses from the burning fabric, plastics for example, of the car, including cyanides gases. Your information how fire services managed EV fires is wrong and runs counter to what fire services around the world have stated, most use car fire blankets on EVs and cooling to bring the fire under control. Water jet spikes are also used to remove the heat from within a battery bringing it back under thermal control. What car company or battery are removing Lithium from vehicle batteries, many are seeking to use solid state batteries with solid Lithium anodes. Have you confused this with Nickel and Cobalt that is being reduced in batteries and already excluded from LFP based batteries.
Sorry mate, this is not the place to state negative facts (events that have and still happen in real life) about EV's as these truths clearly hurt! It must have been absolute hell for the evangelists to be former drivers of Petrol/Diesel cars...all the grimacing, regret and tears as they drove to work each day!
@@huwjones5879 Like saying all 'Ice' cars a non issue then...making EV's pointless! Someone posted a helpful bunch of info which explains what can and has happened and you cannot accept that reality?
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Straight to the point and no time wasted. I love the video. Keep it up!😁
The thing you missed was MG are introducing semi solid state batteries in 2025, not only on the LM brand, but MG as well, giving 600 mile range, faster charge time, 800 volt architecture and above all ,safer, why buy an outdated EV, technology is making rapid advances, goodbye Tesla, hello SAIC
"Crash and Burn", not something you want to hear in relation to an EV. I'd take the BYD Sealion over the Model Y on looks any day. Prices are definitely getting to where they need to be.
I'd take a Sodium Ion BYD Seagull over any Tesla...
Yea it’s great to see EVs under £19k the main market is probably £25-40k and there’s an absolute mass of great cars
Crash and burn is exactly what keeps coming back in news articles covering accidents and collisions involving EVs.
@@ComeJesusChristwhat news articles?. The ones in your head 😂
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I think, Dongfeng should be on the top of the list. In the price range under €30k, we had the choice between the Inster, the Grand Panda, ë-C3 Max and the Nammi Box.
We tried the Citroën ë-C3 Max, but we found the Dongfeng Nammi Box Launch edition better on all specs, and €6.000 cheaper.
Hi Dave. You mentioned cheap 2nd cars. We recently bought a Dacia Spring as a 2nd run about and love it. Trips to town for shopping or visiting friends, charge up every 2 or 3 days when it gets to 40 ish %. Find the winter range of 110 to 120 is fine for our needs. Cheap and cheerful 2nd car. Our other car is a Kia Soul with a 270 to 300 mile range. 🚙
The elephant in the room is surely the Expensive Car Supplement annual tax on cars over £40k
Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters…
There are so many elephants that they will never fit in that room!
Tell Comrade Reeves. She won't listen.
@@dcbickersteth Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters…
There are so many elephants there that they will never fit in that room!
The elephant will hopefully start to make EV prices cheaper to make them more and more affordable.
@@dcbickersteth Surely, there are a few elephants in the room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters…
There are so many elephants that they will never fit in that room!
I love your comments about the JCB models 😊
The last one, ROFL, well, actually I like the excavator
You missed the Skoda Epiq which launches next tear. Next size down from the Elroq. A 4.1m long compact 4 door crossover with a 490L boot.
I'm looking forward to seeing this one released, though I'd like it to be closer to 280 m range than 245 miles
@@gavkenny Yes, the range won't be it's strong point. Definitely down on our current Kona 64kWh. That said, we rarely use the full range of our Kona & haven't used a public charger in 2 years of ownership.
Hi have a unrelated question, is it safe to use a 13amp extension lead to change a bmwi3s, many thanks Chris
It’s OK, just make sure you get one designed for the job like those from ‘tough leads’
Unlikely to be suitable. If you need an extension lead get an electrician to spec one that can handle the high power for extended periods of time, they are out there but not in B&Q
Might look to replace my Zoe in 2025 ( the wife usually drives that), the Leapmotor small car looks like a possibility . My MG4 PCP also finishes at end of 2025 so might look to replace that as well, ideally something with a bit more range and higher charge speed but about the same size.
I love a coupé and the cupra Raval will definitly be on my list in 3 uears time. I curent have a Born, and id love this car but in my favourt format.
Im old now, family all grown and flown, so i dont need space, so im back to cars of my yourth. After 30 years of mostly warm eststes.
A quick estate is the perfect one car fits all when you have a family. Or even when you don't
Interesting stuff and the ev market is really staring to develop. We are on our 2nd ev and have just 1 gripe. Evs are becoming like computers on wheels, with everything needing programming, (took me a couple of weeks to get the My Renault App and the car account up & running. Putting more air in the tyres requires the on board computer to be updated in order for the warning lights to turn off. Simplification as an option or a base model might actually be a good idea for us older less tech savvy owners.
That says more about how poor the Renault App and software are. Tesla has had this working from day one, with continuous OTA updates on all cars.
Thanks Dave, plenty of info.
Some great EV's incoming. I must say when you did the JCB thing, I thought of Kenny Everett and his Sherman Tank "Having Trouble Parking"!
Trying to brighten your day a little and I’m a big Kenny Everett fan thanks for the compliment
As my lease on our Citroen E-C4 ends we are looking for a little more range and space. So we had a look at the new Ford Explorer and Capri.... At a hefty £48,000 we were expecting a reasonable level of quality... But instead we saw two basic plastic filled cars, worse than a 1980s Fiesta. Dreadful scratchy plastics everywhere with a tin roof (Explorer) or glass roof (Capri). Ford are just nowhere even close to offering the public something interesting or value for money!
Just watched some reviews of the Chevy Equinox - base model is $35K in the U.S, 85 kWh battery. Makes some cars look very expensive.
Hi Dave, would be great to get your view, via a video, on FSD 13.2.1 and timescale for Europe/UK adoption. Merry Christmas and keep up the good work.
2029 is my guess. Until US and China have many years of FSD in routine use i doubt the EU and UK are interested. I think Tesla has lost interest as well sadly. Maybe if BMW or Mercedes had a good one, they'd change their minds.
Good suggestion and it’s on my list Simon
@@EwanM11 Thousands of Americans will be driving almost every journey on FSD supervised from January. The noise of approval will reach all parts very very quickly.and the need for regulatory change/approval will be very clear.
@@simonpettit8548Vote Elon for UK Prime Minister.
@@simonpettit8548 maybe. The EU is already struggling with emissions regulations that domestic industry has no chance of meeting, that the Chinese can easily meet. I think its doubtful regulators are willing to hand the rest of their industry over to Tesla/Musk. Musk's ownership of Tesla will be a factor in the decision making process.
So i think the EU will wait till the nvidia system used by Mercedes is of similar quality to FSD. And i think the UK will follow the EU, unless Wayve make really good headway which is extremely unlikely.
Hyundai Inster/Casper and Hyundai Ioniq 9 are 👍🏻👌🏼😉 2025.
I want a JCB for Xmas…😊
Is the new car the Klaus Schwab GTI ? Great performance but shuts down if you travel more than 15 minutes from your registered address.
The Renault 5 looks the most interesting to me next year
Answer me this if EV’s are the future, how does someone in a wheelchair charge their car? Cause these cables weigh a ton. This is a genuine question that a disabled woman asked me yesterday at work.
The future is already here.
Brilliant video as ever Dave.... But what about the Model Q.... Surely top of the list 😊
Wonder if we'll get an MG2 EV (or MG3 EV) in 2025..
Always goid to hear your point of view Dave even if i dont always agree.
Fiat have surrendered as a brand they used to ve the small european car champion not any more i dont know what they are thinking but rebadging Stellantis platforms at higher prices makes no sense and larger Fiats never seem to do well combined with likely poor depreciation.
Any mention of + £30k cars rukes me out until they are around £10-15k so even the Inster is out for a couple of years.
Nice to see a cheaper Chinese car us coming i think this is a key battleground for buyer acceptance.
A subsidy on charger install to promote used sales as £1k is 3 years of petrol for some drivers and would promote used demand.
Nissan us looking a dead brand needs rescuing, just poor public perception no small car entry point and dubious quality since their Renault hook up strange how Renault had moved on and left them behind.
The only ev i would consider an ev is ec3/panda/frontera. Yet they are still built on petrol base
There are quite a few elephants in this room! One is depreciation, then there’s public charging cost, then the VAT and lack of fuel duty in home-charging that is coming soon, then the dealers being put out of business through the £15k fine, then the thermal runaway, then battery degradation and random cell fault, then the government’s or utility company’s ability to remotely shut down EVs and sanction charging through smart meters…
Great narrative, not a single fact in there, plenty of scaremongering lies, you’ve excelled yourself! nice one 😂
@ You may try to ridicule it, dismiss it and ignore it, but others are also fully aware of these genuine concerns.
Dave, et al any recommendations re an SUV type EV, please?
I recommend that you test drive a couple, then create a list with your requirements and then try some more while you check the list.
Your list should include towing, luggage space, economy, warranty, charging speed, range (it really isn't important if more than 250 miles), acceleration, top speed and tire prices and price for the configuration that will work for you.
Remember to include your family for the test drives to make sure it fits
@ much appreciated.
Specific recommendations are hard but I think Skoda Elroq (Elroq 60 or 85), Hyundai Ioniq 5 or the upcoming new BMW iX3 (Q3 2025) are interesting SUVs to check out
@ many thanks.. 🙏
I'm surprised you're listing BYD as a top future vehicle - that's like hopping into a boeing without a second maintenance team looking at it.
have you ever sat in one? Have you ever driven one? Thought not
Will they sell?
When you have dealerships more inclined towards selling their ice cars, with the exception of many years of servicing. See my point?
The Chinese would have to build RHD cars for the UK market, so not quite as simple as sending models built for the Chinese market.
you totally underestimate how many countries have RHD cars and drive on the left: like Hong Kong, Japan, India, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, UK plus half of Africa. Not such a small niche market.
@@hishamg for info; RHD Chinese made are now in Australia so I guess there on the way to the UK too.
I hate the idea of an SUV LEAF. Not what the world needs right now..
Wow the new e merc looks like its been vagaziled ! or its hit a chandalier !
I have 2 MG EVs so clearly don't object to Chinese cars. I can't take BYD seriously because of the words Build Your Dreams on the back. If they move to BYD front and back I'd consider it - pretending it's the Welsh word. Byd = world or life
JCB have not gone electric, they do a couple of small plant equipment that is electric. The vast majority of their vehicles will ice running on hydrogen. The power/energy requirements is too high for battery. So their tractors, diggers and large excavators will all run on hydrogen in the future.
Not everyone buys a car because it's the most practical, cheapest, most economical, most space etc. some people buy a car because they like the way it looks; you could swap the badge on pretty much any of the Chinese and Korean EVs and most people wouldn't be able to to tell, and this is why MINI will sell loads of them.
The Leapmotor TO3, is horribly ugly and cars of this kind should start at £9k.
What is going on above the windscreen of that IM, looks alike a Waymo taxi? Can the spec and price overcome the huge lure of BMW, Mercedes and Audi in the middle management company car park?
Id have the renault 5 over the alpine all day.
Any news on the UK Electric Van market?
Yes good call! I started some research but didn’t have time to include it. I’ll make a separate video
Yes it's as dead as a Dodo 🦤
@@davetakesitonthanks looking forward to it when you get time
Yes...plenty of head scratching on how some can get their vans to get over the Golden 100 mile range lmao!
Of course that'll be about 80 miles when loaded up!
But you can get a number of them for about 40% off the RRP price now....I wonder why??
@@stevecoinitin7521I ran a Peugeot e expert for 3 years . Carpenter by trade, van racked out full of tools and carrying fire doors I would average around 160 miles per charge. Covered 40k miles over the lease with not a single problem. Now run an id. Buzz cargo. Get around 240 miles per charge same condition. Good deal on 2 year lease.
I like the look of the Ford Puma as the charge port appears to be in the right place for Tesla V3 Superchargers
Cant wait to ditch my ev for a lovely DIESEL defender in Jan,,buy an ev at your peril 💀💀💀💀🇬🇧
Ahh! The 1% club
My guess is Ferrari
Wrong Stephen
No mention of the Kia EV3? 600km range, 30 minutes 10-80%, and sub €40k is a winning recipe
Nio?
I'd guess xiaomi.
JBC not that long ago where singing the praises of Hydrogen fual cell for their big yellow fleet ,but has the Bamford family smelt the coffee and gone electric hopefully but will they stop backing the Tories probably not you can't win them all.
A Bit curious to know whether Dave has reviewed or even bothered to mention the European car of the year. It’s omissions like that which really makes me question his ability to make correct and impartial judgements. No prizes for guessing which manufacturer it was and which country it’s from, which might go some way to explaining its absence.
I definitely didn’t list 2024 car of the year but I did list 3 EVs that are contenders for 2025 car of the year. Keep up please
@ I hear you, but it seems a shame really. You’ve got some great stuff on your channel Dave, but for some reason you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about French cars. A can’t abide Elon Musk, but it doesn’t stop from saying he makes great cars. Just a little more ‘fine tuning’ that’s all. Enjoying it all the same. Thank you.
I said it before, you obviously don’t like Ford, so just say so and stop trashing them and having digs at them.
What good can you say about a puma costing £32k with only a 43kWh battery. The Renault Zoe had that 9 years ago and at the time you could get a new one for under £20k.
Maybe they'll do better later on after they've mugged the early adopting ford fans and dropped the price.
@ I don’t give a shit about Ford, I just want Dave to be honest and admit he doesn’t like them either
That merc looks awful. Very tacky
Tesla Juniper to the moon
JCB's gone Faguar... They should be in pink
Problem is the electric car traction battery has been undergoing chemical mix changes since the birth of the Nissan Leaf and as the media has reported car manufacturers wish to remove the high energy lithium content which cause or help to cause thermal runner way and thereafter a chemical fire which is very harmful to the climate. Yes its very true ICE cars catch fire but they do not developed such a toxic chemical fire clouds and ICE cars catch fires can be extinguished very fast by the Fire Brigade. When an electric car is involved in a road traffic accident the fire brigade treat the electric car as a potential fire hazard as any kinetic energy through the electric car chassis is a potential traction battery compartment compromise and days or weeks later the traction battery can catch fire, so that is why the electric car manufacturers are trying to remove the lithium content from an electric car traction battery. Problem is we are in a massive oversupply of second hand electric cars on the market at the moment with lithium traction batteries so this is one reason why the general public are a little apprehensive in purchasing a second hand electric car. As soon as the electric car manufacturers move away from the traction battery lithium content the better.
Grow up. Down playing the dangers of any fire is irresponsible and dangerous as so is trying to equally create scare stories to suit a personal perspective.
All car fires produce toxic gasses and run offs, petrol and diesel car fires included. Such fossil-fuel fires release gases including hydrogen chlorine, hydrogen fluorine, cyanhydric acid, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide amongst others all of which have high toxicity levels. Fossil fuel fires release toxic emissions as a fast moving gas cloud due to the excited nature of conflaguation based fires produced by fuels, which is why fire services wear breathing gear when dealing car fires. Further, unburnt fuel spill run-offs are toxic in themselves to the surrounding ground and water courses. Also, all vehicle fires released further hazardous gasses from the burning fabric, plastics for example, of the car, including cyanides gases.
Your information how fire services managed EV fires is wrong and runs counter to what fire services around the world have stated, most use car fire blankets on EVs and cooling to bring the fire under control. Water jet spikes are also used to remove the heat from within a battery bringing it back under thermal control.
What car company or battery are removing Lithium from vehicle batteries, many are seeking to use solid state batteries with solid Lithium anodes. Have you confused this with Nickel and Cobalt that is being reduced in batteries and already excluded from LFP based batteries.
Not helped by the likes of you who keep banging on about this non issue. Change the record.
@@huwjones5879Hello there. No need to change the record just speak to someone from your local Fire Brigade.
Sorry mate, this is not the place to state negative facts (events that have and still happen in real life) about EV's as these truths clearly hurt!
It must have been absolute hell for the evangelists to be former drivers of Petrol/Diesel cars...all the grimacing, regret and tears as they drove to work each day!
@@huwjones5879 Like saying all 'Ice' cars a non issue then...making EV's pointless!
Someone posted a helpful bunch of info which explains what can and has happened and you cannot accept that reality?
BAN SUV's please.
Loads more EVs imported that nobody wants. So let's buy up more green fields to put these new milk floats in to rust away