Subsonic .300 Black Out vs. Kevlar Body Armor
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We find out how a 200gr subsonic S&B .300 Black Out performs against the most commonly worn body armor, NIJ Level II. We conducted this 300blk body armor test for a local police department so we decided to duplicate the test for you guys. So, how do you think 300 blackout performs against kevlar body armor?
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I hope 300 BLK gets picked up by LE and or military bc I need ammo prices to go down just a bit more lol.
@killerbob03 how much does reloading supplies cost?
killerbob03 I’m interested in getting into reloading and have .223 shells. What equipment do you use?
@@khughes4870 Lee single stage press kit and Lee dies would be excellent especially for getting started. However bullet and powder prices have increased a lot.
Load your own and choose your grain bullet and speed. Subsonic to get the bad guys and not go thru then and into other in the house.
@Josef K Now if Wolf would make a subsonic round we'd be in business. Personally don't see the point of 300 BLK supersonic.
Love the use of the clay block to show how much it would hurt to get hit by it! Most other channels say "Well it stopped it so you'd be okay" I appreciate being able to see if you'd walk away with a bruise or wouldn't walk away. As you said not the most scientific but still a nice demo!
true, expect that he uses the same piece of clay, making it useless to test the perm/temp cavities, lots of weird cost-cutting measures on this channel that boil down to pseudo-science
Mankind is made of clay…
Fun fact: Adam translates to clay in Arabic 🤓
I just wanna say the the best part of this video was where you call for everyone to support other gun channels we like. That's the kinda love we need in this community. As always Tim and the rest of the folks from MAC keep delivering solid content. Been a fan since 2013! Keep up the fire!!
That cross promotion, these guys are not 2A but more so capatlists and opportunits.
@toejam7606 well 3 years on we know that now.
This may sound crazy but, back in the early eighties, when I was still in Law Enforcement, and soft body armor was still a fairly new concept, we did a lot of testing. What we found was, that the difference in penetration between a pointed projectile and a rounded one at lower velocity was at least partially dependant on whether the tip of the pointed projectile impacted on a fiber, or between fibers. I know it sounds crazy, but those were our findings, hope that helps to explain your results.
that's pretty crazy dang
Thanks for the knowledge I never thought about it on that level but it makes perfect sense appreciate ya sir
Makes sense.
Subsonic ammo will sail right through a trash can full of water where regular higher velocity ammo will smack the surface and then sink
HEy Tim! Alotta love coming your way from south africa, young gun owner and sport shooter here, just little info, its very hard to own any kind of fire arm legally here, so very supportive on your second ammendment stand, not many countries see personal protection in terms of owning a fire arms as a right, so make sure you never lose it that side of the pond!
"RUclips hates us, and they probably hate themselves". rofl
I would like to see more on this topic. Makes me even happier that I went with the .300BLK for my AR pistol.
MAC putting the wifes tables at risk to bring us knowledge! Now there's bravery
"and now Freedom Munitions sells tables. MAC code for 6% off." :)
Mac needs to keep the old ones he's damaged and just bolt steel or plywood tops on them an keep as only tables to use - he's already paid the price for those - no need to risk a new one.
fnordi May his sacrifice be honored.
Thats the Marine in him
Owns and runs a gun store and still can't afford his own range table. Hilarious.
Damn. Looking at that clay I can believe it when people say getting shot with a vest on is like getting hit with a sledgehammer.
Well, anyone who says 300 Black Out is just an overpriced 45apc round needs to watch this video.
What if somebody says .300 Blackout is an overpriced and under-performing 7.62x39? >=)
@@angry_zergling Does 7.62x39 due subsonic this well? At normal velocity, you got a point on price, performance is close.
@@Shadx27 Hehe no, it doesn't. And 7.62x39 doesn't really work well in an AR platform either. .300 Blackout is a good caliber for a sub-200 yard AR and the only option for shooting subsonic effectively and reliably. I was just giving you a hard time =)
@@angry_zergling Wyndham Weaponry makes an excellent AR in 7.62x39 and uses C Products magazines. No issues in 3K plus rounds. Also the Robinson Arms XCR in 7.62x39. Both excellent firearms and excellent quality.
@@BaddFrogg777 Oh yeah? I was under the impression there was a issue inherent to the design of the AR platform that meant it couldn't work well with tapered cases. That the best you could do without a significant, fundamental redesign was make it work 'most of the time' or function 'decently', but no matter what you'd always be stuck with issues on some level. I'm not familiar with the products you spoke about, though; maybe they found a way around the issues? I'll have to look into them. =)
Wow, the .45 back face deformation is incredible. Great video!
I'm sure 300blk will work against lvl 2 keyboard warriors.
What about a keyboard warrior who plays Escape from Tarkov?
Anything short of .50BMG Raufoss will just make them them troll harder.
@@angry_zergling They'll require the ol' head, eyes in that case.
Depends if they still live in grandma’s basement
Part of the reason for the large deformation of the clay with the 45 is you hit on the edge of the armor, which allowed the vest to be pushed back easier, creating a bigger hole
I thought that 300 blackout might make a good self defense round in an AR pistol for a bump in the night or a truck gun. Looks like underpenitration won't be an issue👍
Dude that is freakin crazy. I had no idea it would perform like that. Pretty badass. I thought it would under penetrate if anything, completely counter intuitive to my original assessment.
Good video 👍🏻. Out of 400 rounds of the S&B subsonic at least 85% had a sonic crack from my 8.5”barrel.
Great Job Tim! Love both of these calibers! I will show this to my brother-in-law ( Police officer)
I double dog dare you to change your opening scene to dropping 300 blackout casings and see how long it takes some nerd to notice.
That was awesome! What a difference that expanding subsonic round made! I bet that was a ton of fun to do.
I love your channel I've watched you for 12 some odd years. I had to do the unthinkable and sell my firearms. I sadly can't support you on patron but I just wanted to voice that you've been such a great educational source and entertaining that I've rewatched many of your videos and hope you have many more years of great success.
Thank you for your efforts to get small arms solution on to full30, Chris is a historian, educator and very knowledgeable on firearms. I love MAC, sootch00 and Hickok45 and the other great content providers. For RUclips to cancel Chris's show, which is rather benign compare to the other content providers, proves their ignorance. It's sad that fascism is Alive and Well in the 21st century.
luvmyctd had the same problem on my smartphone. Was able to watch videos on full 30 then out of the blue could not get the video to play, no Matter What settings I played with. Installed a new browser and videos of working fine again.
I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion and rile people up but I still have to say it. There is nothing even bearing the hallmarks of fascism here. RUclips is a private media outlet that is (in my opinion) making a poor business decision by limiting that content they put out. Its silly to crack down on any form of legal content users produce because that negatively effects RUclips's income, however it is well within their rights to deny service to any customer.
Nick Messner RUclips is free to deny access to their servers to anyone they want, but RUclips is not a network on to itself. Their access to the internet relies on publicly-funded servers. Without which they would become a lan. If they want to run their own cable to everybody's home at their expense then yeah you're right they can do whatever they want. But they have built their business using publicly-funded infrastructure. The US government gives them free access to that infrastructure and I say play fair or lose that access.
John bellinger You're free to think that way, I would then be curious of your opinion on net neutrality. By that logic, anyone using any exclusionary principles on the internet would then be disallowed from doing so.
Nick Messner if a business practice is contrary to the Constitution then yes it should be denied any public access. Just an example if FedEx denied package delivery to Asians because the owner simply doesn't like Asians, would that be allowed under the law. What if at a sporting event the owner of that sports team and Arena instructed that all black people have to be quiet because he doesn't like their points of view would that be illegal under the law. No it is not. Discrimination is against the law. RUclips is blatantly discriminating against conservative. Only under certain religious grounds can a public or private entity deny services for religious reasons. And even that is very narrow in its scope. And I don't believe RUclips can claim any religious exemption.
Tim what you find interesting we find interesting, these are videos that keep me tuned. Very nice.
RUclips: "ok guys let's monetize people that are harming their selves and doing stupid stuff and demonize people that are being safe and shooting targets and teaching others about guns"...
Because dumb idiots don't start rebellions intelligent armed citizens can be a problem
BLACK GUN BAD
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“That’s Going to leave an owie” Lol
I was pretty impressed with the crater that .45 left in the clay behind the vest. I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end! A double-tap would be brutal! I also like the reduced chance of overpenetration.
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That’s weird. I wonder if it went down because of another sale? I will look into this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, though you are lucky I saw it on someone else’s video 🙃
The VSO Gun Channel I left a message on the recent NSR eco holster video, but I seen you here and thought you might want to know. It was only a five dollar difference on my order, so not a big deal. Take care.
I understand the concept...........
but I’m not understanding the Kevlar at incoming.
I wouldn’t think Meth dealers or any other anti-cop shooter would be shooting sub-sonic ammo.Am I missing something?
That .45 definitely left 2" of back face deformation. It would be neat to see other pistol ball rounds shot into that panel to see what kind of deformation results. Of course, it would also be cool to see .300 BLK subsonics on IIIA.
300blk will fail to penetrate 3A.
They almost penetrate, but tend to deform/expand.
A 300blk 220grain fmj would probably penetrate, but nobody makes one as far as I know.
Based on that, shouldn't the cops choose 45 acp, because not only did it deliver a lethal amount of force, but it didn't penetrate and hit the backdrop?
@@lotterydiscounts4326 45 acp will just tickle the drugged up perps
This was a great test (or re-test), Tim. Any chance you could follow this up with tests on level 3A body armor for both subsonic and supersonic (FMJ/solid) 300?
@@Assmagnus Unless they are on a budget
Well you wouldn't need to test the sub sonic because we know it won't penetrate level 2
@@TheDarthSoldier subsonic did penetrate the level 2 armor though that was the whole point of the video 8:23
I can assure you that it absolutely would go right through a 3A panel. I tested 150gr FMJ subsonics on a 2A vest folded in half (twice the thickness of 2A) and the subsonic went right through all 42 layers of kevlar plus the 2x4 post it was nailed to.
I also tested 150gr subsonics that went through a 2A vest and 16" of wet phonebooks and the plastic bucket the phonebooks were in and disappeared into the dirt so deep I couldn't dig it out.
Subsonic FMJ 30 cal bullets have HUGE penetration ability.
The Godfather would the same on a 120 grain fmj supersonic do the same on a level 3
Freedom munitions has my support all day. Great customer service and my .300 blackout looks amazing for new production.
.300 black out seems like a really cool round. (I love 7.62X39 and .30 carbine!) if I had the resources, this is the round I would love to experiment with on a carbine setup like you have there!
What? Now I guess I have to wear rifle plates when I'm cooking meth?
😂😂👍
Or maybe a 3A vest.
@@phillhuddleston9445 3a is for pistol rounds dude
@@jaredfrazier2216 I realize that.
300 akc suppressed is perfect tool for clearing building. But if the building hobos are cooking meth with ceramic plates I recommend some 308 and 40mm
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Somewhere in Kentucky: Scott laughs “that’s cute”
I'm glad your channel is back and ok. I enjoy your work a lot and i often buy what you use and test.
"they probably hate themselves" thats not even a joke tho. Thats the sad part.
Would love to see the level 3 body armor test vs 300 blackout
This was an excellent practical study on a subject called 'sectional density' also widely known just as the 'SD'.. One of the reasons why .264-caliber projectiles are so leathal even with big game.. They don't slow down as much slipping thrue the thick hide before they reach the vitals.
Just set up an account on Full30. Thanks for the perseverance, guys!
AR15s, now available in anti-methlab configurations! What a timeline.
Looks like a great police carbine round.
Quiet and hard hitting, perfect combo.
I'd be curious to see this test done again with something like a Hornady A-Max or some other polymer/soft point 300 blk round to see if it'd punch through the armor, then expand into the clay.
Would be great
I just got back from the range, and not only did I have fun BUT there is a new MAC video. *Fuck this day is awesome!*
Looks like nice weather for a PX4 storm gauntlet test
why does everyone want a test of a bad gun to be put through conditions it will clearly fail at. I don't know why the world is obsessed with crummy firearms. And overpriced.
Drew Smithson says the guy who probably uses a glock
Seriously!! He has been "prepping" it for a year. That is an exceptional handgun, regardless of the gauntlet. Would love to see it anyway!
Drew Smithson so in the end we can tell people like you to go fuck their hat.
Cough cough still waiting... Your killing me Tim.
Tim, I just watched you on IraqVeteren8888's video on the NRA meeting. I realized I haven't been seeing your videos. I was still subscribed but the bell wasn't marked. I had to resubscribe and then it would click the bell. Maybe I'll start seeing your videos again. You guys woke me up on how the present NRA isn't protecting our 2nd Amendment. I hope we can get them back in line.
Thank you for what you do MAC! Your content adds as an invaluable education tool for our community. We can't thank you enough!
.....and full support to you and others!!!!
Would love to see a test on 3A armor, as this is widely available on eBay
I want to see 300 go through ceramic 4+
@@austinhernandez3883
Maybe with a tungsten penetrator and a loy of velocity, but sounds highly unlikely.
Who wears level 2. Level 3A is the gold standard / most common.
@@doctoruttley folks that cannot afford level 3
Tim...As a VERY early adopter of 300blk, this video just adds more validation to my original purchase of my AAC 9” 300blk pistol for home defense, car gun and general “go to war” purposes. There’s nothing more versatile available, as you know it is capable of firing 90gr supers up to 230gr subs. PLEASE CHECK OUT TROM BULLETS. THEY’VE DEVELOPED NEW SUPERSONIC 300BLK ROUNDS THAT ARE ACCURATE OUT TO 900 YARDS.
This shows bullet shape and bullet type mean a lot. .300 Blk has it's purposes, and would be a great round for law enforcement use.
Absolutely
This is probably the most useful info I’ve gotten on youtube
Safe-Semi-Full Semi. Lmao i need one of those shirts
Awesome channel man. You always have great and informative videos
6:42 when she says it’s her first time.
Soylent Green LMAO hotdog down a hallway
Do the 3A test. I don’t know anyone that gets lower grade than 3A. I’m sure they are out there but this video just left me with more questions than anything.
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Not sure how you're demonitized.
YT made me sit through a bunch of commercials to see this video.
That Backface deformation with the .45 acp is why everyone should wear trauma pad/plates.
The backface deformation with the 45 looked to be at least the 2 inches mentioned at the beginning of the video as possibly lethal. So, while the results appear to be very different, the consequences for any human wearing this soft armor would essentially be the same...game over.
Only potentially lethal, and only likely when hit below the ribs though. There's a lot more potential to survive a shot in the chest since the ribs will prevent deformation.
@@MsHojat A non-penetrating shot to the chest without a trauma plate has a significant chance of lethal injury to the heart.
In ancient armor, quilted fabric "padding" was armor too. The tarry coarse linen or wool layers of a gambeson is the ancient kevlar vest, it could outright stop longbow arrows. But it's not the same thing for modern trauma pads. They don't add to the resistance of the armor like a gambeson did. Just wear light kevlar under the ballistic plate and you'll be fine.
Excellent example of how Cross-Sectional Density effects terminal ballistics for penetration. Although I’d like to see the same test with IIIA armor. Not many people use Level II anymore.
MAC, you need to start a VLOG channel!
Do you think it would be popular enough to do?
Military Arms Channel i think many of us would enjoy it. I spend a lot of nights riding in my patrol car and listen to a lot of vlogs/podcasts like hank strange’s.
Military Arms Channel might
As always, great video and thanks for all you do.
So it seemed like the .45 still had enough force to be lethal, even if it didn't penetrate.
incorrect
Great video guy's. Not what I was expecting. Thanks now I know what my set up can do.
at least you were consistent, missing the mark by 1" 🎯
That deformation in the clay is why my dad always pushes me to wear the trauma plate.
Because I’m under 18 the local 3 gun organization requires that I wear a vest or plate carrier w/plate.
After a whole day of running and shooting with that body armor I have a new found respect for veterans and law enforcement.
Who still wears level 2 body armor?
Gangs and communists
im not a conservitive but your channel is super educating to me thank you
Just starting the vid but no way that sub goes through body armor because its the same energy as a 45. The only possible difference would be because of the length of the bullet, I look forward to being surprised that the bullet length makes it def the armor.
Less surface area means that the energy will transfer much differently. The .45 is wide and made to transfer the energy. Whereas the .300 is narrow and arrow like. I'm guessing this is what makes little cartridges like the 5.7 able to defeat body armor. I'm guessing the .300 will puncture the armor as long as it doesn't tumble or expand.
Sectional density is the term you guys are looking for. A 200 grain .30 cal will have greater penetration than a 200 grain .45 cal at the same velocity. It concentrates the energy in a smaller area increasing penetration.
AvocadoAtrocity with 5,7 it‘s a mix of higher velocity and a higher sectional density
speed
45ACP travels at about 830-950fps depending on the platform, while subsonic 300 blackout goes 1060fps
zMeul Correct. Would have been interesting to see a subsonic 200 grain .45 which would be about the same velocity as the .300 blackout.
Beautiful, and I think I saw this before, but being a 300 blackout owner this is awesome.
I love both 45 acp and 300blk 👍😉
Good test, great info, and the table is safe. I call that a win…. Thanks M.A.C.
What is Grizzly Bears are the ones making the Meth though? We live in strange times. Should have probably tested 458 SOCOM.
Thanks MAC! This was awesome to see.
That shirt though
It's dumb
Great video. The results were interesting, indeed. I don't really know a lot about that round, so, honestly, I didn't have any idea what the subsonic rounds would do or even not do. Thanks for sharing the results. I'm not saying I'll change to the .300 blackout, as I still prefer my Mk18 build in 5.56, but very interesting, nonetheless. Keep up the good work. :)
Interesting video. I’ve always been a bit against .300 BO as it has basically the same energy w/ subsonic ammo as .45 acp but costs much more. The design of the rifle bullet can give it an advantage over the pistol caliber, with the right ammo, and your test shows that. I stand corrected (partially). Is that advantage worth the extra cost of ammo for regular people who aren’t raiding meth labs? I guess that’s for the individual to decide. The chances of an intruder wearing body armor is fairly low, but it is possible. I suppose the phrase “I’d rather have it and not need it” can be applied here. Thanks for the vid!
f5tornadeau As it gets more popular, demand will lower costs.
Also, try shooting a 45ACP 100yds. .300blk while containing no more energy than a .45ACP has much better ballistics. Which means it carries that energy further/longer.
f5tornadeau for me the advantages are twofold . First 300 blackout has a widely versatile range of power . It is very smooth shooting in each of those . Second as a caster and a reloader operating pressures make it ideal for lead bullets . This means I can load it significantly cheaper than 223 and therefore shoot a lot more
Frijoli fair enough. My main home defense weapon is my Scorpion (which I’ll use for the comparison as I have neither a .45 pcc or anything in .300 BO). Anything I’ll use that for will be well under 100 yds. If I need to go outside, I’ll just grab my 5.56. That being said, I could see some benefits for a close quarters platform that can reach out a bit further.
GunFun ZS valid points. I don’t reload or cast my own bullets (my wife says I don’t need any more hobbies), so for me it is much more cost effective to grab 5.56 and pistol ammo in bulk.
The DEA CLET unit uses a purpose built Colt 9mm SMG integrally suppressed AR variant designed to be fired in the typical ether atmosphere normally found in meth labs which is available to LE off the shelf. Departments can get info from COLT or their DEA contacts on that weapon. Any weapon not designed for that atmosphere can cause detonations of ether when flammable limits are met in a meth lab.
This gun was first produced on contract specifically for the DEA in the 1990's for use in meth labs by CLET. It was in the RO series just cant remember the number. It had a integral suppressor specifically designed not to detonate ether. It came out before the non-suppressed short barreled (less than 10") DEA SMG. From what I can remember Class 3 Dealer Neal Smith had a few Post Samples which were used for dept DEMOS in the 90's.
Did you do testing with 10mm for the swat team?
Whoa there bud. The SWAT team didn't want to blow up the meth lab, 10mm alone would level a city block.
Did you hear that kim Jung un has abandoned his nuclear test? It's because someone showed him a glock g40
It's been a known secret that B2 spirits now carry loaded glock 40's in their bomb bay.
David M don't want to wake the neighbors
Heard that the Air Force is replacing the A-10 with g40.
What this shows is that maxing out the weight of pointy bullets going subsonic can be quite effective
Thanks for justifying my build! Lol
Let's see that 3A vest video and maybe some 16" barrel.300
Somebody please make a full 30 app
300bo is nice, it's all I run in AR platform but no suppressor, it's pretty quiet by it's own design. I'd run suppressor for max utilization if no tax stamp n waiting period. That 300bo MAC used is 1 very sweet rig, just really expensive to practice at almost a buck a round or more for "special purpose" ammo
What state do you live in? I'm considering moving to a 2nd amendment friendly state. I CANNOT live in commiefornia any longer.
He lives near Valparaiso Indiana
I believe he is in Indiana.
Arizona is nice
Arizona is 2A friendly and cost of living is way better. Plus we have the most lenient gun laws.
HABOOB480 Productions and close to the border with Mexico cheap medicine and wamen.
Really enjoyed the video, looking forward to seeing some 3a results sometime.
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truth
travisp11
It’s been removed
travisp11 good job making it political like every other video that has nothing to do with politics
travisp11 🤔🖓🏿
Thanks MAC!
Level 2 u know the most common is level 3a now right
Great video and test!
Imgaine your parents walking in on you while this part 9:10 is playing..oawh ma gawdd the horror ..
The 300 blackout S&B subsonic went through level II armor while the 45 ACP was stopped by the armor. The lehigh defense maximum expansion subsonic 194gr did not expand and was stopped by the armor.
You should make 1 minute videos summarizing findings from these 15-20 minute videos that everybody makes. I’d subscribe
I flat guarantee you that who ever was wearing the "soft level II" body armor hit by the .45 ACP bullet would have been knocked down and very likely rolling around on the ground or unconscious. Any force redistribution from the body armor to the wearer's body itself, especially in the chest, of one inch or more would either fracture a rib or send a shockwave effect into the chest cavity causing serious damage and significant pain...probably put the Lung Lobe down. This guy is almost instantly spitting up blood as he lies on the ground. The shock penetration demonstrated would be like getting kicked in the chest by a horse...yeah, he ain't dead...he just wishes he was.
Seems like it also knock the shooter back and down also
Im in law enforcement and i appreciate the info that you share with us. I also appreciate you being a law enforcement supporter. Not meanie people support us anymore. Thanks MAC
I really liked this video until the last few seconds when you revealed it was only level II body armor... literally nobody uses level II armor. The only soft armor you'll find in the field is IIIA. Seems pretty misleading.
He said it was level 2 at the beginning
I tested a number of 220 grs .300 Blackout subsonic bullets against a class IIIA Kevlar plate form a 50 yrds distance. Out of 10 fired bullets, 3 did not penetrate the plate, while all 10 fired 200 grs bullets did penetrate it. I guess that 220 grs subsonic bullets are too heavy for this caliber...
Who cares about level II ???
Level III is the standard now.
Some departments still issue the level II.
B. Eder Youre misinformed. Level III only comes in hard armor. You may be thinking of level IIIa, but reality is many departments still issue level II soft armor.
Great review but was wondering if you are you planning on doing more gauntlet testing again. I enjoy those as well. Thanks.
Curious why LOE's need suppressors. They aren't Seal Team Six after all. We peasants have to pay excessive brib...er...taxes and beseech the Crown for such luxuries.
Jim Hastings I think it's a stupid waste of taxpayer resources too... But the fantasy reason they will tell you is that they want to contain the muzzle flash to not ignite chemical vapors when they are raiding meth labs
Fire an AR indoors... you'll see why. It's a good way to make a quiet rifle in the same size package as a typical 14.5" carbine.
I have a mk111 mod2. 7.62x39. Very comparable to 300 blk. Way cheaper ammo. Shoots wolf steel case all day long. 7.62x39 subsonic brown bear is priced nicely as well.
How many of these SWAT guys you are getting chummy with will raid your house when the Governor tells them to go around collecting guns? Perhaps none. Maybe these kind of interactions will have them question such orders. I don't know.
Oh dear god
The ones that want their pensions.
Full30 needs an app!! That would be too cool!
Great vid, but could have been much shorter.
Spencer King cause 16 minutes is so long...
Chris Craig yes it is when the core information makes up 5 mins at most if he hadn't of repeated himself so much
+Spencer King Lol I know right? Beginning to be like Nutn.
SmokyMountainOutdoorsman that's pretty harsh lol
He's not gotten that bad yet, but I agree that the vids need to be shorter.