Hi guys, Im a Truck Mechanic at a Local Ford Dealership. From January 2023 to May 2023 i have replaced a total of 4 of those 7.3L Log Blocks for the same concern. I have only worked on 4 vehicles with that engine and all had to be replaced after teardown inspection. So far Ford has not issued anything regarding a known issue with this engine, but every time i request the new Longblocks they arrive pretty quick, like if they are expecting this to happen. Nice video and great info man.
Thanks for watching and leaving the comment. It's nice to have some inside information from you - someone who is seeing it first hand at the dealership. We really appreciate you letting us know. Keep us posted as you see/hear more.
Every time I drive it, especially towing - I'm amazed. But even on long road trips empty, it's still an amazing truck. ruclips.net/video/SvPcL6s2yNk/видео.html
I've got a 2022 Super Duty with the 7.3, just had my first oil change at the dealership at 3,000 miles. So far I've had no issues. I ordered it new, waited 10 months to get it, so far, I'm very happy with it. Thanks for putting your time in on this, I will follow along and add input if I have any. I got it to tow my toy hauler and boat, prior to this I've had 3 or 4 F-150's and the toy hauler seemed just a bit to heavy for them. Feels much better / safer towing it now.
Thanks for the video, I'm waiting to take delivery of the exact same truck in a 2023. Not going to lie, it does make me nervous and its something I'll have to watch. BUT, I know RAM had similar issues with both the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI gas engines so, I mean what the heck can you do? walk everywhere?.. Really appreciate your time and effort on these videos. Good luck.
I have a 2020 F250 with the 7.3, with 28,000 miles on it. I use it to pull a 7,000 pound travel trailer. I've pulled the tailer approximately 2,000 thousand miles along the east coast NY, Del, NC, and Massachusetts. When not doing that it's used around town. I haven't had any problems. I maintain it better than the manual calls for. I am very happy with it. I like your video, I am gonna watch more of them....
I'm an EMT and my company bought a bunch of new F-350 ambulances to replace our out of date and horribly inefficient ford V10s. My 2021 F350 7.3 V8 Ambulance has over 100k miles as of 3/1/23 with almost no issues besides a catalytic clog. It's been ran to the ground with medics testing its guts by red-lining the hell out of it in 100+ degree weather, popping it into neutral and then back into drive at 60 MPH, and redlining while still cold in -5 degree weather, time after time. This is the best engine ford has made thus far. Take that for what you will.
Thanks @Pio - this is great to hear! Real-world use is the best type of actual comments that I like to see. Sounds like your team has put the truck/engine through the ringer and it's holding up as advertised. Thanks for sharing.
2021 F250 7.3 49950 miles no issues. I bought a 2004 F350 6.0 diesel new had it 18 yrs just sold it . Had several problems it was a great truck but no more diesel for me. The 7.3 gas engine pulls as good as my diesel ever did. Love the new Godzilla engine and I pull heavy loads every week 8000 to 12000 lbs.
This is great and exactly what I've been hearing from others! I agree- we don't regret switching from the 6.0 to the Godzilla 7.3. We do miss some aspects of the 2005 F350 - but not that engine.
I'm coming from an 06 6.0 diesel bulletproofed 2 years ago now it's broke down saying possibly valve springs or needs new motor smh I'm over diesel been a money pit with my 6.0
Would have to be laminated to de-laminate, that failure mode is called spalling. It's a fatigue failure that initiates below the surface of the material and creates a small crack that then propagates and causes a piece of material to spall or flake off
Literally did not help anyone by chiming in with your wording change while the OP is helping hundreds or thousands of people by taking the time to post a video on this possibly overstated "issue".
Most of the issues are blown out of proportion. Had a expedition from new to 10 years and 150k miles, never had a powertrain or cam phaser failure. Still ran great when traded in, cracks me up when people say the 5.4 sucked when I had no mechanical issues performing oil changes every 4-5k miles using Motorcraft synthetic blend oil changes at the dealer. Same with a 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150, no issues yet performing oil changes in a timely manner. I’m curious what oil the “delaminated” engines used, haven’t had a problem using Motorcraft, Castrol, or Amsoil in any Ford/ Lincoln product I’ve owned. If you maintain a vehicle under the moderate/severe service intervals in the owners manual you should have a relatively trouble free 150-200k miles on a vehicle.
Same here. 2005 F150 fx4 5.4. Supposedly had all sorts of problems. Mot mine. I take care of it very well-change fluids religiously and i’ve run 93 octane since day 1. Just went over 202,000 miles. It was running just fine, but finally put a new timing kit on it last week. While I was in there I replaced the lifters and rockers (cams were fine), added hi-flow oil pump, new water pump, plugs, and vct’s. With any luck I’ll get another 100,000k out of her. Beats dropping $80k on a new one.
The issue of idling destroying these engines makes sense, if they let them idle at low rpms, these engines have variable rate oil pumps, so not as much oil flow at low idle.
18729 miles. 2022 super duty. I just recently heard about this and it has me bummed completely out. I needed this video to help talk me in off the ledge. Thanks!! Fingers crossed we’ll see how this goes.
Glad to help. We're all just waiting to either confirm that we made a great decision with a truck that is reliable and impressive - or we made a mistake buying a truck/engine manufactured during a pandemic and counting on the dealership to take care of us. I truly believe that it's not as large an issue as what people are making it sound online.
Having the dealership change your oil? Might be useful to have maintenance records in their shop when you have to threaten to sue to get warranty work done. Otherwise, I can not imagine not doing my own oil changes.
I've done my own oil changes most of the time with all our other vehicles (several of them we've made videos of on the channel). But with this newer truck/engine - I thought it would be wise to let the dealership do them for a while. Plus - it's often included with the purchase, so you might as well take advantage of the included ones.
Just took my 2020 F-350 in to the dealer for a noise that I thought was the transmission. Turns out that they think that one or two of the lifters have collapsed. I have not noticed any change in power, but I haven't been pulling it hard for the last several months. I started hearing noises from the left side of the engine/transmission area at about 64,000 miles. Especially noisy when it's cold, and when the rpms were between 2000 and 3000 rpm (during up shifts). The truck now has 68,000 miles. Dealer called yesterday and said they are going to have to "tear it down to the point of failure" to determine exactly what is going on, but they think it's the lifters. I love this engine and transmission, but this is discouraging. I've always owned Ford diesels until I bought this truck. Can't stand the emission issues that most all diesels experience, and $1.00 to $1.80/gallon difference in the price of diesel just isn't worth it.
Sorry that you’re now having an issue. Will it be covered under warranty or TSB or something at that mileage? You’re right about the diesel - that’s exactly why we made the switch to the 7.3 gas Godzilla too!
@@Deep_South ended up with a basically new engine. Metal shavings throughout so they got a short-block and rebuilt my engine. Got the truck back at the end of April. Thinking about whether I soups trade out off or not. Only 25,000 miles left extended warranty….. oh, it had two bad lifters that wiped two cam lobes.
@@robertprice9288 what were the initial signs? I’ve always had a weird vibration at idle. Almost feels like the engine wants to stall out but RPMs don’t fluctuate and it goes away while driving. Just idling in park or in drive with the foot on the brake is very shaky. Dealership always says that it’s normal since it’s a big pushrod v8. Something feels wrong but the scanners never pick up any issues nor do their machines. I’m at 38,000
2022 F350 with the 7.3 Godzilla. It had this failure at 22,832 miles. Ford kept the truck for over 3 months and it was covered under warranty it was out for a total of 98 days. They replaced the camshaft, heads and everything in between. I was told that there are no updated parts and same stock of parts were put in. Good luck.
2020 7.3 48,000. No problems. Knock on wood! Tow a 37 ft travel trailer all over the country in the summer. Had a 6.7 diesel before this.. Gas mileage only changed about 1.5 -2 mpg towing the same trailer. Very impressed by this truck.
Thanks for the video on the Godzilla. I have a 2017 F350 with the 6.7 Diesel. Despite only 34k miles or light duty use, the maintenance costs for it are alarming, especially for the DPF system. What I've read about the oil pump is also alarming. Selling it to get a newer F350 with the 7.3 gas engine is tempting, as long as I'm not just trading one set of problems for another. P.S. The rust on the tow hooks may well be because they were not plated from end to end, but held only partially immersed in the electroplating fluid.
I'd take my old black painted tow hooks back any day! All the problems and maintenance with the diesel are exactly why we decided to skip it in this truck. AND - the 7.3 certainly has the power that we need for our towing excursions. I just hope it holds up as long as it should. I could see this engine going 500,000 miles due to it's basic simplicity if the components are all up to spec and routine maintenance is performed.
I maintain a fleet of ambulances and about 40 per cent are E-450's with Godzilla 7.3. We have seen failures at 50 k and 150 k. Currently have 4 2023's with 24 k average miles on them. Expecting any day to get the call about an engine miss, indicating a wiped cam lobe or lifter failure. Not quite as bad if unit fails during warranty, but it's $10 k otherwise!!! Ticking bomb! I will be pulling oil samples for analysis before the current 4 newer ambo's shed their warranty!
I have about 15,700 miles on my 2020 F-250 Lariat. No issues of any kind yet. It’s primarily used for towing our 32’ travel trailer. I will get an oil sample and send it off to Blackstone Lab just to ensure there’s no issues lurking before it goes out of warranty.
Good to hear that you haven't had any issues either. What is your trailer weight? Just curious. I took my sample from the oil change just yesterday. I'm sending it to Blackstone lab too. Thanks for the comment!
I haven't heard a bad comment about the old V10 yet. I have a couple friends who refuse to switch to a new truck because they love the V10 so much in their earlier Super Duty trucks.
I have a 2021 with 25k and my engine and transmission have been flawless thus far. I do all scheduled maintenance, and oil changes every 5k. I tow and daily drive and have not seen any oil glitter yet. But, word on the street was they had a bad batch of cams that the hard coating on them was substandard and that is what has been coming up.
I have 2020 F350 with the 7.3 that i bought new. I had a check engine light come on, and the Ford app on my phone told me it was a misfire. I took it to the dealership I bought it from, and they supposedly did the common failures at the time, plug wires, and wiring harness. Both of those things were fine. They cleared the code and sent me on my way. Within a day or two, the check engine light was back on. Long story short, they had my truck off, and on the whole summer of 2022. They finally replaced the engine. I was never told what the problem was, I can only assume it was the cam or lifter issue.The truck drove fine at highway speeds. The only time I could feel any issues was backing into my garage or creeping along at a stop sign. It would have a slight lugging or a miss. At the time, it had 55k miles.
Thanks for sharing! I'm curious - when you're at 5-7K miles, what oil life does the computer say you have left? I agree with changing it at that interval - I'm just curious what the computer says.
My solution would be to replace the camshaft before before failure with a hotter 3rd party unit. (Think comp cams or similar) that way you'll be both cooler and more reliable.
Our truck is still under factory Ford Gold Certified pre-owned warranty - so it would be covered if there is a future issue (up to 100,000 miles). I did research having the camshaft and lifters replaced pre-emptively, but that would cost around $4000 out of pocket for the parts and labor.
Out of all powerstroke diesel you happened to buy the worst the 6.7 powerstroke is a great engine decent mileage they pull loads effortlessly I keep the oil changed every 3000 miles at Ford dealership as far as rust spots use water and steel wool rinse it off good and use a good ceramic wax on it
That’s great to hear! I may consider another diesel somewhere down the line in the future. Maybe when we’re retired, and have more time to travel regularly, the truck would get a better workout. I just didn’t tow hard enough, often enough, with that 6.0 I guess.
Has Ford made any comment on this problem? Are there any predisposing factors to the failure such as the type of oil used? Is it possible that Ford got a bad batch of camshafts and lifters? This is a truck I would consider if I were to tow a larger trailer. I think I’ll probably never tow a larger trailer because the American big three all have lifter and cam issues now. 2% of engines having catastrophic failure is very unacceptable.
Once you see glitter on the dipstick, it's too late. I want to love the Ford pickup. I will be following your journey. Maybe it's vehicles with poor maintenance history. Chrome is not what it used to be. Enjoy the Journey - Cheers
Thanks @Bota Bob - that's true about the dipstick. Once you're seeing the glitter the damage is already done. But not driving any further may prevent more catastrophic failure. I'm so disappointed with the chrome. I remember the truck chrome bumpers of old - yes they weighed hundreds of pounds - but they lasted a long time.
Go full synthetic, blends are nonsense! How much synthetic oil is in a blend? Synthetic oil has conventional oils beat in every category of testing. Spending $50-70K+ on a truck and then skimping on the oil to save a few dollars, is like training at the gym every day and then eating at Taco Bell for every meal!
Thanks for watching! I’m not sure that the oil pump used in the 6.7 is the same as the one used in the 7.3. Do you know if they’re the same part number? I would think that a diesel at idle and at speed would be lower RPMs than a gasoline engine. And I thought the diesel trucks needed high oil pressure.
Is this a VENDOR problem or an in house production process problem? If a vendor problem I would be living on there door step, they would be not happy to see me
I just bought my 2020 f-250 with 120k miles and after 5 hrs of owning it came to find out the Trasmissions is slipping. It change gear rough Am sad i paid lil over than 25 k cash and know am stuck with it
@@PurpleCollarLife I agree; good design, but it's been let down by materials quality in this case. For the sake of all who currently own them, I really hope the issues are exaggerated and not a sign that there might be other important areas where pennies were pinched. Last thing I'd want, though, is a dealer service department lifting the cab off a fairly new $50K+ truck to R&R an engine on a truck I plan to keep forever.
Who is making the cam and lifters for this engine? Is it the same place as the Ram trucks? What about the GM engine issues? Are there engine oil incompatibility issues? This all seems odd.
Good question @reload north - maybe it's the same supplier providing them all! With all the supply chain issues though, I'd doubt one supplier can provide the components for all the brands.
Can’t get over todays society, and it even involves car makers, coming to this “throw away” society. People will spend any ridiculous amount on something as long as it’s pretty and makes decent power so really people brought this on themselves. I have an 07 explorer with the 4.6 v8 same as in the Vic’s and mustang, has 235k and runs great, I’m so terrified of the day that I have to get something newer because I know it’s not going to be as good to me as my old one, based off reviews, all new cars of all makes are having bigger issues then I want to deal with. In the 180k miles I’ve had mine, it’s needed a driveshaft, a water pump, one set of spark plugs, a few brake changes and a few wheel bearings. Less then 4,000 in over 13 years. I can’t complain.
I understand what you're saying. Unfortunately, in our area cars don't last forever. I undercoat our vehicles, but the PA winters with salted roads just eat away at the body and frame. I still wish I had my 1983 Ford Bronco with the 300 cubic inch straight 6. That Bronco was amazing, and like you say - just routine maintenance. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@@PurpleCollarLife it’s the same here in New York. I’m on my last one or two years here in New York unless I spend a few thousand I’m sure replacing metal. My bed (sport trac) is starting to shake a bit at highway speeds and I got a Soft spot below the driver pedals on the frame of the truck. I appreciate you getting back to me. It sucks loving something in the rust belt don’t it? I’m probably gonna cry the day my ‘sloder dies. Might have to fly south and find a grandma edition of it sitting in a garage with low mileage and start over with a “new one” 😂😂
That cam phaser in that motor is the weak point cylinder walls are a little thin to. Oil pump shaft with chain. Bad lifters, Those are all weak points in that motor.
Great info & video . What year & make is your F350 ? ? I grew up in Pittburgh area, hunting in Kane , PA . My brothers are now living in Ludlow , PA . Very familiar with Northwestern PA. Thx again & thinking about purchasing a pre owned F350 Godzilla 7.3 also . 👍⚾️
Going on the forums is not research. Neither is speculating on how many 7.3s were sold or guessing what percentage failed from a skewed sample set. Develop a network of Ford techs from all across the continent you can rely upon to let you know what is coming in on the back of a tow truck or tiltbed. The information derived from methods like this give you a less biased, but still possibly biased sample set.
Even 1 motor doing this in a new truck is bad enough for me. This type of failure shouldn't exist at 30,000-40,000 miles at all. That's an engine issue for much higher milage motors, not motors that have many miles left in them in them. So yes, this IS a huge issue for quality, even if it's just 1 truck. This is something you would expect from every other truck manufacturer. Not Ford, & not Toyota.
Thanks for watching! I agree that when you buy a new(er) truck, you shouldn't have to worry about these issues. But at the same time, I understand that not 100% of everything will work perfectly.
2% is horrendous. Most companies use a failure rate of .1-.5 as a baseline. I service cash recyclers. The failure rate for our machines is .01-.08% which means only 1 rejected bill for every 10000 inserted. That’s assuming the note has no “atm fit” In quality
Ours is still doing great. We only use it for hauling/towing - so we don’t put many daily miles on it. In the summer, we’ll put more miles on with camping, boating, and using it to tow the trailer with mowers for our small Lawncare business.
Great question. We actually talk about that in this video: ruclips.net/video/pdNEBD7Ao00/видео.html But the reason we have the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty is because this is a Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified used truck. www.ford.com/used/about-certified/ford-blue-advantage/
@@PurpleCollarLife I just think 5% is still too high for a problem like this. I mean, it's a really expensive fix. Not something most people can afford.
@@truth959 I agree. If this issue happens outside the warranty period, most people (myself included) would not have thousands of dollars sitting around to complete the repair.
I like the engine...but you can rest assured that more than 2% of these engines have the problem. And, we still don't know if this will happen later....we are just hearing of those that manifest this earlier in life. At any rate, I won't be buying one...but I ain't buying a Powerstroke either.
I actually think the failure rate will be less than 2% from this issue. At least I’m hoping that is the case. So far, there was a lot of talk about it over the last few months, but that talk has slowed down. I feel Ike it might have just been a lot of hype over a few cases.
It is ridiculous for a gas engine to be utilized in larger trucks. People/companies who buy these trucks are too cheap to maintain diesel trucks. Yes, they are expensive to repair but if they are maintained properly, diesels should be pretty reliable
Thanks, for the comment. Unfortunately, we're one of the people who had a bad experience with a diesel (tried it for 17 years of constant expensive repairs) and decided "no more" to the problems of diesel. That's why we specifically went with the 7.3 liter big displacement gasoline V8. Here's our video about the negative experience we had with the diesel 1-ton truck: ruclips.net/video/b4oJeIHEgT0/видео.html
@@PurpleCollarLife, I understand the frustration of constant repairs on the 6.0 powerstroke. Powerstroke Specialty in Buford, GA could've taken care of all of your problems at one time. They only work on Powerstroke engines and specialize in the 6.0. They know this engine inside and out and all of its weak points to make them reliable engines.
Nice (and I would say fair) review. I have a 2022 F250 Lariat with the 7.3 and have towed my 9K lb travel trailer over 24,000 miles, from the Midwest to the East Coast, to the Gulf Coast, to Arizona. I have not been over the Colorado Rockies yet but that is coming. Great truck, great engine, and the transmission has done a great job of maintaining speeds both up hill and down hill with the cruise control activated. The 2% failure rate from the cam and lifter problems is certainly something to keep an eye on but its my understanding the majority of those failures have been in commercial vehicles that idle a lot. I have experienced about 9.5 to 10 MPG while towing and about 16 MPG at highway speeds while not towing. In town I see about 10 MPG. However, considering the diesel is $8K more to purchase, has higher maintenance costs and only gets about 3 MPG better millage while towing, I think its a no brainer to go with this engine when you are towing less than 14K lbs
Thanks for sharing your experience! I agree entirely with the thought that unless you're towing daily and towing heavy - the 7.3 gas engine is a better option than a diesel (any brand).
Good to know cause I just bought a 9000lb trailer and glad to see it’s preforming. I got the 2023 F250 Lariat and will be traveling the same places. I didn’t buy gas because it was cheeper but but because of several of past experiences of not being able to find diesel when traveling and didn’t want to deal with def anymore either.
Normally I just thank the person who posted the video but thank you very much for this reply as well. I'm in the process of trying to decide on one that's available in Pennsylvania about 1100 miles from my house which puts the gas bill at around $2,000 just to get it back down to Houston. Pouring through all the comments to find if anyone actually has these delamination issues or if it's so uncommon that it's not even worth bothering with. I really don't want to buy a diesel because if I do I'm absolutely going to have to delete it so there will be my daily driver. I'm not going to deal with the problems that follow a non deleted daily driver. I've been there, done that and I'm not going to be broken down on the side of the freeway again just because of a darn sensor.
I'm real happy with mine. I just turned 10,000 miles on it yesterday. It does what I need. It hauls my tractor just fine. And it sound real good when I mash on it! I ran diesels for over 20 years and I ain't looking back!
Sounds like all the horror stories on GM & Ram trucks. Even if it's5%, you've still got a 95% chance of getting a good unit. Unfortunately all the manufacturers are dealing with some roller lifter problems. Roller lifters used to be just for racing applications! Now with the new oils containing very little zinc flat tappet cams don't live as long as they used to. That's why so many people have switched to diesel motor oils. But with newer vehicle warranties oil weight / range is a big deal for small hole in modern lifters. The price we pay for being spoiled in a new car or truck ,LOL. I believe it's more of a quality of the part issue than the Ford or GM issue. I know that when any problem is posted on a forum or any internet source, it's immediately going to happen to all of us! Most folks with no issues don't post happy reviews or even deal with social media at all. They are probably the smart ones!
A lot of these internet word of mouth clowns don't realize how many engines that Ford and GM are making. Even just a 2% failure rate gives the average person the *perception* that all the engines are failing. Hundreds of thousands of 7.3's out there. GM probably sells nearly a million vehicles with AFM every year. 2% of those kinds of numbers is a lot of repairs but it's nowhere near as widespread as the internet claims.
Good video. My 3 F350 with the 7.3 have not had any issues and all 3 have well over 40,000 miles. I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist but so far I haven't had that problem. 🙂
I have 48k on my Godzilla. The engine has been great but unfortunately I'm having transmission issues with the 10R140. They're fixing it under warranty per TSB 21-2420. Personally, I think Ford is playing games with the oil life /service interval recommendations. When my oil life hits 50% I start planning on changing it. My next oil change I'm going to send an oil sample in for analysis.
Just change your oil every 5000 miles. It's cheap insurance. My 22 year old nissan frontier was serviced every 3000 and it was clean as a whistle inside when I changed the valve cover seals. I change the oil in my 2016 tundra at 5000, even though they call for 10,000 mile intervals.
That sucks Warren, I saw you on TFLT and I was wondering what the outcome was. I have the same truck, so I'm hoping I don't have this problem as well. 🤞
There is a tuner. Will be coming out soon for transmission only the guy designing it is the best in the business for the 10 speed to fix the issues with them not lasting..
Just a thought on seeing if metal is in the oil by looking at the dipstick. If you could see it on the dipstick -- I would bet Mains and Rod Bearings are spent, not to mention Cylinder Walls and Pistons. I believe oil analysis is your best route to go.
@@PurpleCollarLife I have used Blackstone for several years...maybe 10...and I think it's a good piece of mind. Each Superduty I've owned has had oil analysis done at oil changes.
@@PurpleCollarLife best thing is oil analysis you will catch the wear sooner than later.Use synthetic oil and change it often 3500/4000 miles oil and filters are cheep!
Improper valve lash or valve float can cause the same issue. If the lifter is leaving contract with the cam roller at any point, the valve spring slams the lifter back into the cam and is basically hammering the roller into the cam. This could also be a oil pressure issue, the Godzilla has a variable oil pump. The gauge on the dash is basically an idiot light that trips at 8psi. The loss of oil pressure at higher rpm will effect the backlash. I am not 100% convinced that is a lifter or cam materials problem.
I was thinking along similar lines, I know they are using tall valve springs, wonder if they are good when compressed but get a "little light" towards the end letting the roller skip.
@@berserker406 It's a big-block V8 in a 3/4 ton or larger truck. If you gave a damn about economy, you'd be driving something else. So why sweat the FE so much, Ford?
@matthewholzmueller6292 Ford claimed they selected extra tall springs in order to increase valve spring life. The Godzilla valves experience very high lift - something like 0.5" on the intake and 0.6" on the exhaust
Had a 7.3 godzilla. The front main seal started leaking at 10k miles. At 18k they replaced my transmission due to weird noises inside. Sold it and got me a 2015 f350 diesel. I might revisit the 7.3 in the future but for now I'll let other people experiment with the new engine.
I've got 25k on my 22 F350 7.3 gas. I changed the oil myself at 1500, 3000 and every 4500 miles since. I use Motorcraft oil and Wix filter. I absolutely love the truck and the engine is nothing short of amazing. The internet forums are filled with complainers and people with way too much time on their hands and very little real world experience. They piss and moan about the super duty riding too stiff, the transmission isn't smooth enough and on and on. The people you never hear from are the guys out working long hours every day and putting 35,000 trouble free miles on their truck every year.
I tow heavy weekly with my 2020 f250 7.3 , 60k miles, like you said its an amazing powerhouse that won't quit. The 10 speed tranny is very intelligent and you will notice most if your a weekly tow guy like me. I want another one.
@berserker406my truck is doing fine 41k 2022 all driven by me and I drive it like I stole it! Especially when I found out how to unleash all the power thru the traction button.
I'm thinking the valvetrain is related to low oil pressure at idle. This would cause excess lash. The 7.3 has a variable demand oil pump. This would make sense why there are more issues with fleet vehicles. Fleet vehicles start in the morning and shut off till there back in the barn.
The 2% failure rate could be because of response bias. Those with failures are more likely to respond with the failures while those who have no problems will not respond as readily.
So about the same situation as GM trucks with AFM lifters. Sell enough of them, have a 1 or 2% failure rate, and throw in some response bias and suddenly everyone on the internet is saying all the engines are junk and they're all going to have a lifter failure by xx,000 miles.
I have the 7.3 in my 2020 F350. Still runs great, sounds great and after I heard about this potential problem I have started cutting open my oil filters. It have yet to find any early signs of failure.
No problems with my 21' F350 7.3L so far anyway. Time will tell. ... I have found over the years that the people that bad mouth certain items; do not own them or have never used one.
@@PurpleCollarLife I had a 2015 with a 3.5l ECO. LOVED IT! I heard so much negative stuff about them, yet myself and 2 friends never had any issues. And please note Chev & Toyota have gone to turbos as well in their p/u.
2021 f650 7.3 gas rollback towtruck with 80,000 miles, only problems I've had is sparkplug wires, other than that it's been perfect and I'm not easy on it
Im one of those with a failed lifter in a pickup, truck is all stock, started ticking around 10,000 miles and got real bad at 20,000 miles. My local dealer replaced the long block at 25,000 miles. No questions asked. Ford is well aware of the problem. My local dealer said they had a bunch of ambulances and motorhomes with failed lifters but my truck was the first pickup that they had done. whole body has to come off of the frame on a lift, etc....
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sorry to hear that your truck is one I've got to make the tally mark in the failure column. Good to know that Ford took care of it though.
Good video! I own a 2021 F350 Lariat, it has 56,435 miles on it. Daily driver and has not had any problems so far,🤞🏻I too have Ford do 100% of the service. I change the oil at 5k religiously. So far so good!
I had 2006 F350 6.0 dually with 301,000 miles and it was an amazing truck. No problems, just normal wear, 4 of 8 injectors @ 148K, replaced all, no tranny service or issues etc. Although, I changed oil @ 3500k (most peeps thought that was excessive....not me). The only mod was EGR delete. Awesome truck, now I have the 2021 F-250 7.3, I hope it will be just as reliable, only time will tell but, I will be praying.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the 6.0! That’s great. There was a lot we really liked about our 2005 - but we just couldn’t get that 6.0 to work for us. We tried for 17 years - but couldn’t take any more. I think part of the problem was that we actually didn’t drive the truck regularly enough. You certainly did a lot of oil changes on that Powerstroke! That’s 15 quarts at a time! :) I hope you and I both have your good luck with these 7.3s!
Same hear had x2 6.o f350s no problems ever delete egr at 50k for safety sake .Other than service work no problems over 200k towing hd for my excavation business.
My 2021 F250 with the 7.3 has 39k on it with 1/3 of the miles towing a camper and so far the only issues we’ve experienced have been the plug wire fail and a small oil leak from the rear main oil seal plate.
I'm right at 5k miles with my 7.3L. I have noticed this problem coming up more lately. I bought the 100k mile service contract when I bought this thing though. Fingers crossed but I'm not going to lose sleep over it regardless of what happens. I did an oil change at 2500 miles and will probably do another one early. Makes me feel better.
I'm right with you, I changed at 3K, and will every 5K regardless if I'm towing, or unloaded. I plan on getting the ESP through Flood Ford soon, but waiting until the dealership tries to fix a couple nuisance issues first. For some reason the Ford app says my truck is in deep sleep mode to conserve battery power because it' says it's low even from day one. The charging pad for my phone while it lights up, does not actually charge, and my rear seat 400w AC outlet does not work.
@@niceatrya3477 mine did the deep sleep thing from day one. There's a software upgrade you can have done to the truck to prevent this but I haven't had time to take it in for it. There's a channel I follow up on here that gives you real repair experiences and he explained it in a video one day. Powerstroke tech talk w/ Arod
I usually don’t go for the extended warranties. But I was definitely glad to find a truck with the Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified used protections. I hope I never need it - but it’s nice to have in my back pocket.
@@PurpleCollarLife that may have been legitimate. I knew mine was BS because I trickle charged my battery and drove the truck for 20 mins and the message came back. I knew that wasn't far enough to kill the battery that much. And then I later found it to be a nuisance message.
Nice! I've been impressed with the fuel economy in these trucks - considering the size and weight of them, plus the power available. ruclips.net/video/TMQ-QNrPDw4/видео.htmlsi=8rHaW9s6r8AETLef
2022 F350 Platinum Godzilla... purchased used in January 2023 with 2700 miles. Currently has a tick over 5K miles. No issues. Love the truck. As solid as an Amish table and pulls like a team of draft horses.
I'm sad to say this but we brought this on ourselves. Car buyers have lowered their standard immensely in the last decades, you guys will pay whatever ridiculous amount if it looks nice, has fancy tech and "power" that most of you never really use. I remember a friend being "brand disappointed" that his car failed after 10 years although being regularlly maintained. In Europe we used to keep them for 15-20 years. Now people make 10k miles reviews praising the car for being sooo reliable :))
I can't say I disagree. I wish we would/could have kept our old vehicles longer. I had a 1983 Ford Bronco that was my favorite vehicle ever. Unfortunately, things just don't last forever and have to be replaced with newer models eventually. Even though I loved that 1983 Bronco - the frame was rusting through (our PA winters with salt hurt the steel), the body was nearing the point of not passing our annual state vehicle inspections. And we like the safety features of the new vehicles to keep our family safe. That old Bronco had no anti-lock brakes, no air bags - not even shoulder seat belts in the rear seats. It didn't even have headrests in the front seats (which can prevent severe neck injuries). So while the Bronco lasted me a long time - we needed to upgrade. And while we liked lots about our 17 year old 2005 F350, that diesel engine was so problematic it wasn't worth keeping (soaking more money into).
I already found a easy solution. Before the 36k bumper-to-bumper warranty is up buy a factory extended for powertrain. It doesn't cost that much. That's what I'm going to do.
My 2000 BMW 528i is still running awesomely. I do nearly all the MX and repair and in 100k, there have been very few. My '99 4Runner is similarly reliable with 188K on the clock.
Great video 21 7.3 11k no issues. So far when I pull the dip stick it's the cleanest oil I have ever seen even close to change time. I'm not going to worry about it. I saw the box truck video.
Only 10300 miles on my 22f250 bought it brand new and no issues at all with this truck. we love it ! heard it was the cab and chassis trucks that were having this problem but you know some people just love to complain . been a ford guy all my life and im not worried, been plenty of all the brands having a plethora of issues. nothing new.
That's what I've heard too - the cab and chassis trucks. But I wonder if they put different components in those engines - or if those applications are different running conditions. Thanks for watching! I'm hopeful it's much ado about nothing!
I have a 2020 F250 super duty with the Godzilla engine and now have over 46,000 miles on it with NO ISSUES. It has all the power and torque I need to pull my trailer with ease, not to mention that I only get two miles per gallon than my buddy with a 2017 truck with the 6.7l Powerstroke. With his higher fuel bill and MUCH HIGHER maintenance costs, my gas engine costs much less per mile than the diesel. (not to mention saving $10,000 in the purchase price. Oil doesn't wear out, it gets dirty and the additives get overloaded so changing your oil and filter will improve any engine's life regardless of make and engine size. Oil is MUCH CHEAPER than buying a new engine so it is money well spent
Thanks for sharing. I have been on the fence as to weather I would upgrade from my 2015 6.2l to the 7.3l. Other than regular maintenance the two 6.2l F-250's I have owned have been rock solid, with more than enough power for our use. I think you may be right about the internet blowing the issue out of proportion, but for me it's still a potential deal breaker, at least for the first couple years of production. That being said, any first gen engine runs the risk of a failures. I am fairly certain that Ford has quietly corrected that issue on newer models of the 7.3's.
Thanks for watching! So far, we’re really happy with the 7.3. Lots of pulling power. I have lots of friends with the 6.2 who wouldn’t trade them for the 7.3 though - just because they really like the 6.2
Don't forget that a 2% failure rate is in trucks that are at max only 3 years old. By the time these trucks have 100,000 mi or more I think the failure rate is going to be very significant. Likely MUCH more than 2%
I am currently dealing with lifter failure on my 2022 7.3l My truck has been at the dealer for a month and they still have not authorized any type of repair. This failure happened at 16,000 miles.
That's horrible. That is exactly what I'm worried about. Since my truck has the 100,000 mile warranty - I'm confident it will be covered. But I'm not liking how many stories like yours that I'm hearing about how long it takes for the repair!
‘22 250 with this motor. 25,100 miles not a problem yet. Honestly I’m more worried about the transmission. Seems a little clunky to me. Maybe I’m still just not use to it. I will be doing an oil sample on the next change. I’ll be getting oil samples a lot after warranty though 😂
Good idea with the oil sample. I plan to do the same using Blackstone. I also am still getting used to the transmission. That’s another reason I have the long warranty term! :)
I've got 20k on my 2021 F250 and no problems so far. Towed 8 times last year. 6 camping trips and 2 big loads of top soil in my utility trailer. I change my oil myself every 5 k miles and it always looks clean. I'm 59 and this is my 7th new Ford truck I've owned. I've had a V6 Ranger, a straight 6 F150, two 5.4 V8's, two 5.0's and now the 7.3. Knock on wood, but I've never had any engine issues with any of them. Maybe it could happen this time but hopefully not. Good luck to all of us!
Thanks for sharing! You've had lots of great Ford vehicles. That straight 6 Ford 300 engine is my favorite all-time. Tons of torque and very reliable. I had the 300 in my 1983 Ford Bronco. I also had a couple Broncos with the 351 Windsor engine. They were great too.
I saw one video that correlated the cam lifter issues in vehicles with low rear gear ratios 4:10 - 4:30 resulting in extended high rpm operation. Basically valve float.
High rpm does not equal valve float. Valve float should NOT HAPPEN anywhere in the rev range below factory rpm limit. I don't think 4:30 gears will result in running at the rev limiter.
@@morley3810 it's just what I heard. If the valve springs somehow are weaker than they should be it would seem to me the problems would manifest most frequently in higher rpm vehicles. Also I'm curious what is your definition of valve float?
@@gratefultrucker7781 It's not my definition. Valve float is a pretty well established condition. It's when the springs lose control over the valve movement and can no longer keep the pushrod/lifter etc in contact with the camshaft. This SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING with a stock engine operating ANYWHERE in the rev range permitted by the ECU parameters. If it is, that's a serious engineering deficiency. Although it is a Ford soooooo....
The real question is what kind of maintenance was being done with these failures on the 7.3 and how many were in heaven duty applications like motor homes, Uhauls and school buses?
@@jeepgirl1653 no that’s what diesel are for. I’m talking about idle time or people who rent shit and don’t take care of them. Some of the recent videos I’ve seen were rental box trucks. I guess they could be getting groceries in them.
Research is not reading through forums. If you think they are. You are not very bright. Forums claim my 2016 F150 2.7 was going to lose at least one turbo by 60k miles. My truck has 93k miles and I'm still running on both stock turbos.
I own 2, 7.3 's. 2020 F 550 xlt, 2022 F 350 xlt. Not a single problem with either so far. I am aware of the cam/lifter issue and some complaints about the 10 speed trans. But so far I have not had any issues at all with either truck.
Hi guys, Im a Truck Mechanic at a Local Ford Dealership. From January 2023 to May 2023 i have replaced a total of 4 of those 7.3L Log Blocks for the same concern. I have only worked on 4 vehicles with that engine and all had to be replaced after teardown inspection. So far Ford has not issued anything regarding a known issue with this engine, but every time i request the new Longblocks they arrive pretty quick, like if they are expecting this to happen. Nice video and great info man.
Thanks for watching and leaving the comment. It's nice to have some inside information from you - someone who is seeing it first hand at the dealership. We really appreciate you letting us know. Keep us posted as you see/hear more.
I understand first year issues but still in 2022 and 2023??!
We just blew engine number 3 on ours and it’s back in the dealer for engine number 4. We only have 51,000 miles on it.
On engine number 3 just got it back yesterday 85k
F650 bought last September. Currently with 54k miles and no issues so far.
Thanks for sharing! Good to hear another positive report.
I have a 2022 with 31k. Super happy, no issues, many advantages over the new diesels. Pulls trailers weighing 10-15k regularly.
Every time I drive it, especially towing - I'm amazed. But even on long road trips empty, it's still an amazing truck. ruclips.net/video/SvPcL6s2yNk/видео.html
I've got a 2022 Super Duty with the 7.3, just had my first oil change at the dealership at 3,000 miles. So far I've had no issues. I ordered it new, waited 10 months to get it, so far, I'm very happy with it. Thanks for putting your time in on this, I will follow along and add input if I have any. I got it to tow my toy hauler and boat, prior to this I've had 3 or 4 F-150's and the toy hauler seemed just a bit to heavy for them. Feels much better / safer towing it now.
Thanks for sharing! I'm sure you'll continue to appreciate the difference between the Super Duty and the F150 when towing.
good call getting a bigger truck its all about duty cycle , (a toyota tercel will tow anything ..just not very long )
Thanks for the video, I'm waiting to take delivery of the exact same truck in a 2023. Not going to lie, it does make me nervous and its something I'll have to watch. BUT, I know RAM had similar issues with both the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI gas engines so, I mean what the heck can you do? walk everywhere?.. Really appreciate your time and effort on these videos. Good luck.
I think we're going to find that it's a lot of excitement over nothing. Thanks for watching!
Hey You would think they taken care of these issues by now on all manufacturing brands with cam, lifter issues
I have a 2020 F250 with the 7.3, with 28,000 miles on it. I use it to pull a 7,000 pound travel trailer. I've pulled the tailer approximately 2,000 thousand miles along the east coast NY, Del, NC, and Massachusetts. When not doing that it's used around town. I haven't had any problems. I maintain it better than the manual calls for. I am very happy with it. I like your video, I am gonna watch more of them....
We're glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing your truck experience and thanks for checking out our other videos.
I'm an EMT and my company bought a bunch of new F-350 ambulances to replace our out of date and horribly inefficient ford V10s. My 2021 F350 7.3 V8 Ambulance has over 100k miles as of 3/1/23 with almost no issues besides a catalytic clog. It's been ran to the ground with medics testing its guts by red-lining the hell out of it in 100+ degree weather, popping it into neutral and then back into drive at 60 MPH, and redlining while still cold in -5 degree weather, time after time. This is the best engine ford has made thus far. Take that for what you will.
Thanks @Pio - this is great to hear! Real-world use is the best type of actual comments that I like to see. Sounds like your team has put the truck/engine through the ringer and it's holding up as advertised. Thanks for sharing.
That sounds insane. Why would they do that to the ambulance?
How often do your ambulances go in for service?
2021 F250 7.3 49950 miles no issues. I bought a 2004 F350 6.0 diesel new had it 18 yrs just sold it . Had several problems it was a great truck but no more diesel for me. The 7.3 gas engine pulls as good as my diesel ever did. Love the new Godzilla engine and I pull heavy loads every week 8000 to 12000 lbs.
This is great and exactly what I've been hearing from others! I agree- we don't regret switching from the 6.0 to the Godzilla 7.3. We do miss some aspects of the 2005 F350 - but not that engine.
I'm coming from an 06 6.0 diesel bulletproofed 2 years ago now it's broke down saying possibly valve springs or needs new motor smh I'm over diesel been a money pit with my 6.0
Would have to be laminated to de-laminate, that failure mode is called spalling.
It's a fatigue failure that initiates below the surface of the material and creates a small crack that then propagates and causes a piece of material to spall or flake off
Thanks! I'm not sure why the web is referring to it as delaminating. But you're right - it's better described as spalling.
Just to many experts jumping on the band wagon
Literally did not help anyone by chiming in with your wording change while the OP is helping hundreds or thousands of people by taking the time to post a video on this possibly overstated "issue".
Most of the issues are blown out of proportion. Had a expedition from new to 10 years and 150k miles, never had a powertrain or cam phaser failure. Still ran great when traded in, cracks me up when people say the 5.4 sucked when I had no mechanical issues performing oil changes every 4-5k miles using Motorcraft synthetic blend oil changes at the dealer. Same with a 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150, no issues yet performing oil changes in a timely manner. I’m curious what oil the “delaminated” engines used, haven’t had a problem using Motorcraft, Castrol, or Amsoil in any Ford/ Lincoln product I’ve owned. If you maintain a vehicle under the moderate/severe service intervals in the owners manual you should have a relatively trouble free 150-200k miles on a vehicle.
Thanks for the comment. We’ve had the 5.4 in a F250 we had in 2019, and a 5.4 in our 2010 Ford Expedition. Neither engine gave us any trouble.
Same here. 2005 F150 fx4 5.4. Supposedly had all sorts of problems. Mot mine. I take care of it very well-change fluids religiously and i’ve run 93 octane since day 1. Just went over 202,000 miles. It was running just fine, but finally put a new timing kit on it last week. While I was in there I replaced the lifters and rockers (cams were fine), added hi-flow oil pump, new water pump, plugs, and vct’s. With any luck I’ll get another 100,000k out of her. Beats dropping $80k on a new one.
The issue of idling destroying these engines makes sense, if they let them idle at low rpms, these engines have variable rate oil pumps, so not as much oil flow at low idle.
I was thinking that same thing. Thanks for watching and commenting.
18729 miles. 2022 super duty. I just recently heard about this and it has me bummed completely out. I needed this video to help talk me in off the ledge. Thanks!! Fingers crossed we’ll see how this goes.
You're being mind controlled with basically zero real data.
Glad to help. We're all just waiting to either confirm that we made a great decision with a truck that is reliable and impressive - or we made a mistake buying a truck/engine manufactured during a pandemic and counting on the dealership to take care of us. I truly believe that it's not as large an issue as what people are making it sound online.
Thanks @Dustin Marshall
Having the dealership change your oil? Might be useful to have maintenance records in their shop when you have to threaten to sue to get warranty work done. Otherwise, I can not imagine not doing my own oil changes.
I've done my own oil changes most of the time with all our other vehicles (several of them we've made videos of on the channel). But with this newer truck/engine - I thought it would be wise to let the dealership do them for a while. Plus - it's often included with the purchase, so you might as well take advantage of the included ones.
Just took my 2020 F-350 in to the dealer for a noise that I thought was the transmission. Turns out that they think that one or two of the lifters have collapsed. I have not noticed any change in power, but I haven't been pulling it hard for the last several months. I started hearing noises from the left side of the engine/transmission area at about 64,000 miles. Especially noisy when it's cold, and when the rpms were between 2000 and 3000 rpm (during up shifts). The truck now has 68,000 miles. Dealer called yesterday and said they are going to have to "tear it down to the point of failure" to determine exactly what is going on, but they think it's the lifters. I love this engine and transmission, but this is discouraging. I've always owned Ford diesels until I bought this truck. Can't stand the emission issues that most all diesels experience, and $1.00 to $1.80/gallon difference in the price of diesel just isn't worth it.
Sorry that you’re now having an issue. Will it be covered under warranty or TSB or something at that mileage? You’re right about the diesel - that’s exactly why we made the switch to the 7.3 gas Godzilla too!
@@PurpleCollarLife I always buy the extended warranty with my trucks, for this exact reason. Luckily this will be covered!
Any update here? What was wrong with the truck?
@@Deep_South ended up with a basically new engine. Metal shavings throughout so they got a short-block and rebuilt my engine. Got the truck back at the end of April. Thinking about whether I soups trade out off or not. Only 25,000 miles left extended warranty….. oh, it had two bad lifters that wiped two cam lobes.
@@robertprice9288 what were the initial signs? I’ve always had a weird vibration at idle. Almost feels like the engine wants to stall out but RPMs don’t fluctuate and it goes away while driving. Just idling in park or in drive with the foot on the brake is very shaky. Dealership always says that it’s normal since it’s a big pushrod v8. Something feels wrong but the scanners never pick up any issues nor do their machines. I’m at 38,000
2022 F350 with the 7.3 Godzilla. It had this failure at 22,832 miles. Ford kept the truck for over 3 months and it was covered under warranty it was out for a total of 98 days. They replaced the camshaft, heads and everything in between. I was told that there are no updated parts and same stock of parts were put in. Good luck.
Wow - 98 days!!
2020 7.3 48,000. No problems. Knock on wood! Tow a 37 ft travel trailer all over the country in the summer. Had a 6.7 diesel before this.. Gas mileage only changed about 1.5 -2 mpg towing the same trailer. Very impressed by this truck.
Another excellent report! Thanks for sharing your experience. Real world miles doing real-world work!
Thanks for the video on the Godzilla. I have a 2017 F350 with the 6.7 Diesel. Despite only 34k miles or light duty use, the maintenance costs for it are alarming, especially for the DPF system. What I've read about the oil pump is also alarming. Selling it to get a newer F350 with the 7.3 gas engine is tempting, as long as I'm not just trading one set of problems for another. P.S. The rust on the tow hooks may well be because they were not plated from end to end, but held only partially immersed in the electroplating fluid.
I'd take my old black painted tow hooks back any day!
All the problems and maintenance with the diesel are exactly why we decided to skip it in this truck. AND - the 7.3 certainly has the power that we need for our towing excursions. I just hope it holds up as long as it should. I could see this engine going 500,000 miles due to it's basic simplicity if the components are all up to spec and routine maintenance is performed.
Another great video! Just like the old Fram oil filter commercials used to say pay me now or pay me later
Great point!
I maintain a fleet of ambulances and about 40 per cent are E-450's with Godzilla 7.3. We have seen failures at 50 k and 150 k. Currently have 4 2023's with 24 k average miles on them. Expecting any day to get the call about an engine miss, indicating a wiped cam lobe or lifter failure. Not quite as bad if unit fails during warranty, but it's $10 k otherwise!!! Ticking bomb! I will be pulling oil samples for analysis before the current 4 newer ambo's shed their warranty!
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I have about 15,700 miles on my 2020 F-250 Lariat. No issues of any kind yet. It’s primarily used for towing our 32’ travel trailer. I will get an oil sample and send it off to Blackstone Lab just to ensure there’s no issues lurking before it goes out of warranty.
Good to hear that you haven't had any issues either. What is your trailer weight? Just curious.
I took my sample from the oil change just yesterday. I'm sending it to Blackstone lab too. Thanks for the comment!
The web said the same about the 3v V10, I have a V10 and abuse it and still no issues with my bought new 2007 350. Maintenance is key.
I haven't heard a bad comment about the old V10 yet. I have a couple friends who refuse to switch to a new truck because they love the V10 so much in their earlier Super Duty trucks.
I have a 2021 with 25k and my engine and transmission have been flawless thus far. I do all scheduled maintenance, and oil changes every 5k. I tow and daily drive and have not seen any oil glitter yet. But, word on the street was they had a bad batch of cams that the hard coating on them was substandard and that is what has been coming up.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad to hear there have been no issues yet. I wonder how many cams were in that batch?
I have 2020 F350 with the 7.3 that i bought new. I had a check engine light come on, and the Ford app on my phone told me it was a misfire. I took it to the dealership I bought it from, and they supposedly did the common failures at the time, plug wires, and wiring harness. Both of those things were fine. They cleared the code and sent me on my way. Within a day or two, the check engine light was back on. Long story short, they had my truck off, and on the whole summer of 2022. They finally replaced the engine. I was never told what the problem was, I can only assume it was the cam or lifter issue.The truck drove fine at highway speeds. The only time I could feel any issues was backing into my garage or creeping along at a stop sign. It would have a slight lugging or a miss. At the time, it had 55k miles.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Any issues with the replacement engine? Did they extend the engine warranty?
Cleetus Mcfarland ripped apart a 7.3 to use for hot rodding, and said it look like an LS with better flow and better design.
Great! I'll have to look for that video.
@@PurpleCollarLife it's around when they first started building the mcflurry mustang, they since abandoned it for a coyote.
Ordered new 2021 F250 Tremor in late 2020. Has 39k on it now with no issues, change oil between 5k-7k miles..
Thanks for sharing! I'm curious - when you're at 5-7K miles, what oil life does the computer say you have left? I agree with changing it at that interval - I'm just curious what the computer says.
@@PurpleCollarLife 40% at 5,000 and around 30% at 7,000
My solution would be to replace the camshaft before before failure with a hotter 3rd party unit. (Think comp cams or similar) that way you'll be both cooler and more reliable.
Our truck is still under factory Ford Gold Certified pre-owned warranty - so it would be covered if there is a future issue (up to 100,000 miles). I did research having the camshaft and lifters replaced pre-emptively, but that would cost around $4000 out of pocket for the parts and labor.
Out of all powerstroke diesel you happened to buy the worst the 6.7 powerstroke is a great engine decent mileage they pull loads effortlessly I keep the oil changed every 3000 miles at Ford dealership as far as rust spots use water and steel wool rinse it off good and use a good ceramic wax on it
That’s great to hear! I may consider another diesel somewhere down the line in the future. Maybe when we’re retired, and have more time to travel regularly, the truck would get a better workout. I just didn’t tow hard enough, often enough, with that 6.0 I guess.
Has Ford made any comment on this problem? Are there any predisposing factors to the failure such as the type of oil used? Is it possible that Ford got a bad batch of camshafts and lifters? This is a truck I would consider if I were to tow a larger trailer. I think I’ll probably never tow a larger trailer because the American big three all have lifter and cam issues now. 2% of engines having catastrophic failure is very unacceptable.
Great question - I haven’t seen anything from Ford corporate at this point.
Once you see glitter on the dipstick, it's too late. I want to love the Ford pickup. I will be following your journey. Maybe it's vehicles with poor maintenance history. Chrome is not what it used to be. Enjoy the Journey - Cheers
Thanks @Bota Bob - that's true about the dipstick. Once you're seeing the glitter the damage is already done. But not driving any further may prevent more catastrophic failure. I'm so disappointed with the chrome. I remember the truck chrome bumpers of old - yes they weighed hundreds of pounds - but they lasted a long time.
Do you think switching to synthetic oil would be a good idea? I change my oil at 4000 miles now.
Great question! I think my dealership uses the Motorcraft synthetic blend oil during the oil changes.
For my research following some Ford mechanics online it's not an oil issue
@@PurpleCollarLife I switch every other change (myself and the dealer) I use Motorcraft synthetic blend and Motorcraft filters.
Go full synthetic, blends are nonsense! How much synthetic oil is in a blend?
Synthetic oil has conventional oils beat in every category of testing.
Spending $50-70K+ on a truck and then skimping on the oil to save a few dollars, is like training at the gym every day and then eating at Taco Bell for every meal!
@@pauldiesel4582 I like the idea of using synthetic oil but I thought everyone went to Taco Bell after the gym!
Would be surprised if it is the variable oil pump. I believe the 6.7 diesel has a variable oil pump also and has no problems.
Thanks for watching! I’m not sure that the oil pump used in the 6.7 is the same as the one used in the 7.3. Do you know if they’re the same part number? I would think that a diesel at idle and at speed would be lower RPMs than a gasoline engine. And I thought the diesel trucks needed high oil pressure.
Toyota builds the most reliable engines in the world and even they have had crank shaft and head gasket problems in the past so..... Good video BTW
Thanks!
We have had three. 7.3 motors eat camshafts First one at 10k mi another 15k and today 67k
Wow! That’s got to be a record for one person!
Is this a VENDOR problem or an in house production process problem? If a vendor problem I would be living on there door step, they would be not happy to see me
Great question! I would think that they purchase these components.
I just bought my 2020 f-250 with 120k miles and after 5 hrs of owning it came to find out the Trasmissions is slipping. It change gear rough
Am sad i paid lil over than 25 k cash and know am stuck with it
That’s horrible to hear! Did you get it at a dealership? I think there is some type of coverage for that if you just purchased it.
Not sure if I'm gonna go F250 7.3 or F150 Coyote I want the extra height on the 250 however
Wanted one of these instead of a 6.7 when I get ready to pull the trigger on an F350 and this is really disappointing.
I don't think I'd hesitate. I still think the 7.3 Godzilla is a good design. And I HOPE that the issues are exaggerated.
@@PurpleCollarLife I agree; good design, but it's been let down by materials quality in this case. For the sake of all who currently own them, I really hope the issues are exaggerated and not a sign that there might be other important areas where pennies were pinched. Last thing I'd want, though, is a dealer service department lifting the cab off a fairly new $50K+ truck to R&R an engine on a truck I plan to keep forever.
Who is making the cam and lifters for this engine? Is it the same place as the Ram trucks? What about the GM engine issues? Are there engine oil incompatibility issues? This all seems odd.
Good question @reload north - maybe it's the same supplier providing them all! With all the supply chain issues though, I'd doubt one supplier can provide the components for all the brands.
Can’t get over todays society, and it even involves car makers, coming to this “throw away” society. People will spend any ridiculous amount on something as long as it’s pretty and makes decent power so really people brought this on themselves. I have an 07 explorer with the 4.6 v8 same as in the Vic’s and mustang, has 235k and runs great, I’m so terrified of the day that I have to get something newer because I know it’s not going to be as good to me as my old one, based off reviews, all new cars of all makes are having bigger issues then I want to deal with. In the 180k miles I’ve had mine, it’s needed a driveshaft, a water pump, one set of spark plugs, a few brake changes and a few wheel bearings. Less then 4,000 in over 13 years. I can’t complain.
I understand what you're saying. Unfortunately, in our area cars don't last forever. I undercoat our vehicles, but the PA winters with salted roads just eat away at the body and frame. I still wish I had my 1983 Ford Bronco with the 300 cubic inch straight 6. That Bronco was amazing, and like you say - just routine maintenance. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@@PurpleCollarLife it’s the same here in New York. I’m on my last one or two years here in New York unless I spend a few thousand I’m sure replacing metal. My bed (sport trac) is starting to shake a bit at highway speeds and I got a Soft spot below the driver pedals on the frame of the truck. I appreciate you getting back to me. It sucks loving something in the rust belt don’t it? I’m probably gonna cry the day my ‘sloder dies. Might have to fly south and find a grandma edition of it sitting in a garage with low mileage and start over with a “new one” 😂😂
Don’t these have variable ratio oil pumps? Great idea ford engineering
That cam phaser in that motor is the weak point cylinder walls are a little thin to. Oil pump shaft with chain. Bad lifters, Those are all weak points in that motor.
Thanks for sharing the info!
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Wheres all the testing before being put into production ?
I’m sure there was a lot of testing - I just wonder what conditions (idle for how many hours, replicate driving for how many miles, etc.).
Great info & video . What year & make is your F350 ? ?
I grew up in Pittburgh area, hunting in Kane , PA . My brothers are now living in Ludlow , PA . Very familiar with Northwestern PA. Thx again & thinking about purchasing a pre owned F350 Godzilla 7.3 also . 👍⚾️
Hello to a local! :) Our F350 Ford Super Duty is a 2020. We're now approaching 30,000 miles.
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Is it a Tremor & Lariant ? XLT ? Thx
Going on the forums is not research. Neither is speculating on how many 7.3s were sold or guessing what percentage failed from a skewed sample set. Develop a network of Ford techs from all across the continent you can rely upon to let you know what is coming in on the back of a tow truck or tiltbed. The information derived from methods like this give you a less biased, but still possibly biased sample set.
It would be nice to have that type of network of technicians and tabulate that data!
Might want to add zinc back to the oil and change it earlier. Chevy had this issue and reduced the amount of miles between changes.
Thanks for the tip!
Even 1 motor doing this in a new truck is bad enough for me. This type of failure shouldn't exist at 30,000-40,000 miles at all. That's an engine issue for much higher milage motors, not motors that have many miles left in them in them. So yes, this IS a huge issue for quality, even if it's just 1 truck. This is something you would expect from every other truck manufacturer. Not Ford, & not Toyota.
Thanks for watching! I agree that when you buy a new(er) truck, you shouldn't have to worry about these issues. But at the same time, I understand that not 100% of everything will work perfectly.
2% is horrendous. Most companies use a failure rate of .1-.5 as a baseline. I service cash recyclers. The failure rate for our machines is .01-.08% which means only 1 rejected bill for every 10000 inserted. That’s assuming the note has no “atm fit” In quality
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like there’s a lot of money in your job! :) See what I did there?! :)
Do a oil annlaysis once every two weeks
Wait - do you work for an oil analysis company? Or own stock in one? :)
@Purple Collar Life sorry it was supposed to say months. My bad.
Any progress or updates on the 7.3 gasser?
Ours is still doing great. We only use it for hauling/towing - so we don’t put many daily miles on it. In the summer, we’ll put more miles on with camping, boating, and using it to tow the trailer with mowers for our small Lawncare business.
I OWN A 2022 F-350 7.3 MY HAS THE 5 YEAR 60000 MILE WARRANTY. HOW DID YOU GET A 100000 MILE WARRANTY ON A USED TRUCK ?????
Great question. We actually talk about that in this video: ruclips.net/video/pdNEBD7Ao00/видео.html
But the reason we have the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty is because this is a Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified used truck. www.ford.com/used/about-certified/ford-blue-advantage/
This seems to be a common problem for the Godzilla engine. Ford really needs to step up their quality, not just keep adding snazzy new features.
Thanks for watching! So far in the comments, it's not as common as the internet would let you believe.
@@PurpleCollarLife I just think 5% is still too high for a problem like this. I mean, it's a really expensive fix. Not something most people can afford.
@@truth959 I agree. If this issue happens outside the warranty period, most people (myself included) would not have thousands of dollars sitting around to complete the repair.
67k on ours and the engine is shot from a bad lifter
That's horrible! Is it being replaced under warranty?
How did you know this was going on? Could you feel
It?
My question is how is it that the under part of the hood not painted red? 🤔
Good question. No idea. :)
Any amount is really too much. It just shows the parts are marginal at best. Nothing in the engine should be failing before about 150,000 miles really
Thanks for watching! I'd love to get 150,000 miles of trouble-free use.
These failures may be due to people not maintaining the way they should. Or abuse. We just don’t know
Thanks for watching! I plan to take good care of mine. I hope that means I can avoid these issues.
I like the engine...but you can rest assured that more than 2% of these engines have the problem. And, we still don't know if this will happen later....we are just hearing of those that manifest this earlier in life. At any rate, I won't be buying one...but I ain't buying a Powerstroke either.
I actually think the failure rate will be less than 2% from this issue. At least I’m hoping that is the case. So far, there was a lot of talk about it over the last few months, but that talk has slowed down. I feel Ike it might have just been a lot of hype over a few cases.
Your videos are amazing. I really like it. I am a new subscriber to your channel. Can I talk with you purple?
Glad you enjoy our channel!
@@PurpleCollarLife welcome. Can i talk with you?
It is ridiculous for a gas engine to be utilized in larger trucks. People/companies who buy these trucks are too cheap to maintain diesel trucks. Yes, they are expensive to repair but if they are maintained properly, diesels should be pretty reliable
Thanks, for the comment. Unfortunately, we're one of the people who had a bad experience with a diesel (tried it for 17 years of constant expensive repairs) and decided "no more" to the problems of diesel. That's why we specifically went with the 7.3 liter big displacement gasoline V8. Here's our video about the negative experience we had with the diesel 1-ton truck: ruclips.net/video/b4oJeIHEgT0/видео.html
@@PurpleCollarLife, I understand the frustration of constant repairs on the 6.0 powerstroke. Powerstroke Specialty in Buford, GA could've taken care of all of your problems at one time. They only work on Powerstroke engines and specialize in the 6.0. They know this engine inside and out and all of its weak points to make them reliable engines.
They've been out for 5 years?
I think that the 2020 year was the first year for the gas 7.3 liter engine (Godzilla).
have them send out a oil sample
Done! :) Thanks.
Was this the oceangate edition?
Thanks for watching!
Nice (and I would say fair) review. I have a 2022 F250 Lariat with the 7.3 and have towed my 9K lb travel trailer over 24,000 miles, from the Midwest to the East Coast, to the Gulf Coast, to Arizona. I have not been over the Colorado Rockies yet but that is coming. Great truck, great engine, and the transmission has done a great job of maintaining speeds both up hill and down hill with the cruise control activated. The 2% failure rate from the cam and lifter problems is certainly something to keep an eye on but its my understanding the majority of those failures have been in commercial vehicles that idle a lot. I have experienced about 9.5 to 10 MPG while towing and about 16 MPG at highway speeds while not towing. In town I see about 10 MPG. However, considering the diesel is $8K more to purchase, has higher maintenance costs and only gets about 3 MPG better millage while towing, I think its a no brainer to go with this engine when you are towing less than 14K lbs
Thanks for sharing your experience! I agree entirely with the thought that unless you're towing daily and towing heavy - the 7.3 gas engine is a better option than a diesel (any brand).
Good to know cause I just bought a 9000lb trailer and glad to see it’s preforming. I got the 2023 F250 Lariat and will be traveling the same places. I didn’t buy gas because it was cheeper but but because of several of past experiences of not being able to find diesel when traveling and didn’t want to deal with def anymore either.
Normally I just thank the person who posted the video but thank you very much for this reply as well. I'm in the process of trying to decide on one that's available in Pennsylvania about 1100 miles from my house which puts the gas bill at around $2,000 just to get it back down to Houston. Pouring through all the comments to find if anyone actually has these delamination issues or if it's so uncommon that it's not even worth bothering with. I really don't want to buy a diesel because if I do I'm absolutely going to have to delete it so there will be my daily driver. I'm not going to deal with the problems that follow a non deleted daily driver. I've been there, done that and I'm not going to be broken down on the side of the freeway again just because of a darn sensor.
I'm real happy with mine. I just turned 10,000 miles on it yesterday. It does what I need. It hauls my tractor just fine. And it sound real good when I mash on it! I ran diesels for over 20 years and I ain't looking back!
Good to hear!
4mpg probably as well lol
Sounds like all the horror stories on GM & Ram trucks. Even if it's5%, you've still got a 95% chance of getting a good unit. Unfortunately all the manufacturers are dealing with some roller lifter problems. Roller lifters used to be just for racing applications! Now with the new oils containing very little zinc flat tappet cams don't live as long as they used to. That's why so many people have switched to diesel motor oils. But with newer vehicle warranties oil weight / range is a big deal for small hole in modern lifters. The price we pay for being spoiled in a new car or truck ,LOL. I believe it's more of a quality of the part issue than the Ford or GM issue. I know that when any problem is posted on a forum or any internet source, it's immediately going to happen to all of us! Most folks with no issues don't post happy reviews or even deal with social media at all. They are probably the smart ones!
I absolutely agree.
A lot of these internet word of mouth clowns don't realize how many engines that Ford and GM are making. Even just a 2% failure rate gives the average person the *perception* that all the engines are failing. Hundreds of thousands of 7.3's out there. GM probably sells nearly a million vehicles with AFM every year. 2% of those kinds of numbers is a lot of repairs but it's nowhere near as widespread as the internet claims.
Ford urgently needs to bring back the 300ci inline 6-cylinder.. .
My favorite all-time engine!
Good video. My 3 F350 with the 7.3 have not had any issues and all 3 have well over 40,000 miles. I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist but so far I haven't had that problem. 🙂
That's good to hear! Thanks for sharing.
I have 48k on my Godzilla. The engine has been great but unfortunately I'm having transmission issues with the 10R140. They're fixing it under warranty per TSB 21-2420.
Personally, I think Ford is playing games with the oil life /service interval recommendations. When my oil life hits 50% I start planning on changing it. My next oil change I'm going to send an oil sample in for analysis.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry to hear about the transmission issue - but glad they're taking care of it.
Just change your oil every 5000 miles. It's cheap insurance. My 22 year old nissan frontier was serviced every 3000 and it was clean as a whistle inside when I changed the valve cover seals. I change the oil in my 2016 tundra at 5000, even though they call for 10,000 mile intervals.
That sucks Warren, I saw you on TFLT and I was wondering what the outcome was. I have the same truck, so I'm hoping I don't have this problem as well. 🤞
There is a tuner. Will be coming out soon for transmission only the guy designing it is the best in the business for the 10 speed to fix the issues with them not lasting..
Just a thought on seeing if metal is in the oil by looking at the dipstick. If you could see it on the dipstick -- I would bet Mains and Rod Bearings are spent, not to mention Cylinder Walls and Pistons. I believe oil analysis is your best route to go.
Great point. I’ve just requested some Blackstone testing kits to send oil away at each oil change.
@@PurpleCollarLife I have used Blackstone for several years...maybe 10...and I think it's a good piece of mind. Each Superduty I've owned has had oil analysis done at oil changes.
@@PurpleCollarLife best thing is oil analysis you will catch the wear sooner than later.Use synthetic oil and change it often 3500/4000 miles oil and filters are cheep!
@@andrewslagle1974 Agreed. I'm planning on 3000-4000 miles between oil changes.
oil inspection is the only way to go
Improper valve lash or valve float can cause the same issue. If the lifter is leaving contract with the cam roller at any point, the valve spring slams the lifter back into the cam and is basically hammering the roller into the cam. This could also be a oil pressure issue, the Godzilla has a variable oil pump. The gauge on the dash is basically an idiot light that trips at 8psi. The loss of oil pressure at higher rpm will effect the backlash. I am not 100% convinced that is a lifter or cam materials problem.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I was thinking along similar lines, I know they are using tall valve springs, wonder if they are good when compressed but get a "little light" towards the end letting the roller skip.
@@berserker406 It's a big-block V8 in a 3/4 ton or larger truck. If you gave a damn about economy, you'd be driving something else. So why sweat the FE so much, Ford?
@matthewholzmueller6292 Ford claimed they selected extra tall springs in order to increase valve spring life. The Godzilla valves experience very high lift - something like 0.5" on the intake and 0.6" on the exhaust
Had a 7.3 godzilla. The front main seal started leaking at 10k miles. At 18k they replaced my transmission due to weird noises inside. Sold it and got me a 2015 f350 diesel. I might revisit the 7.3 in the future but for now I'll let other people experiment with the new engine.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm glad they did replace the transmission and seem to have taken care of you. How do you like the diesel so far?
I have some weird noises also but they have yet to pinpoint where it's coming from.
what year godzilla did you have ?
Here is another one we've done f450, this was a bad bad failure -
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Thanks for sharing! Glad you found our video.
I've got 25k on my 22 F350 7.3 gas. I changed the oil myself at 1500, 3000 and every 4500 miles since. I use Motorcraft oil and Wix filter. I absolutely love the truck and the engine is nothing short of amazing. The internet forums are filled with complainers and people with way too much time on their hands and very little real world experience. They piss and moan about the super duty riding too stiff, the transmission isn't smooth enough and on and on. The people you never hear from are the guys out working long hours every day and putting 35,000 trouble free miles on their truck every year.
Exactly! Thanks.
I tow heavy weekly with my 2020 f250 7.3 , 60k miles, like you said its an amazing powerhouse that won't quit. The 10 speed tranny is very intelligent and you will notice most if your a weekly tow guy like me. I want another one.
Why are you using a semi syn. Oil ? Ford recommendation is bare minimum, not what's best .
Motorcraft oil is almost impossible to find where I'm at, so I run full synthetic Valvoline.
@berserker406my truck is doing fine 41k 2022 all driven by me and I drive it like I stole it! Especially when I found out how to unleash all the power thru the traction button.
2022 F-350 DRW w/ 7.3 chassis cab here with 63k miles. No problems or noises this far. About time for front brakes and all 6 tires, but that’s it.
Thanks! That's great to hear. I'd say those OEM brakes and tires did pretty good to last 63,000 miles!
I'm thinking the valvetrain is related to low oil pressure at idle. This would cause excess lash. The 7.3 has a variable demand oil pump. This would make sense why there are more issues with fleet vehicles. Fleet vehicles start in the morning and shut off till there back in the barn.
That’s exactly what I’m wondering. Thanks!
The 2% failure rate could be because of response bias. Those with failures are more likely to respond with the failures while those who have no problems will not respond as readily.
Good point.
So about the same situation as GM trucks with AFM lifters. Sell enough of them, have a 1 or 2% failure rate, and throw in some response bias and suddenly everyone on the internet is saying all the engines are junk and they're all going to have a lifter failure by xx,000 miles.
I have the 7.3 in my 2020 F350. Still runs great, sounds great and after I heard about this potential problem I have started cutting open my oil filters. It have yet to find any early signs of failure.
Great to hear! Thanks for sharing.
No problems with my 21' F350 7.3L so far anyway. Time will tell. ... I have found over the years that the people that bad mouth certain items; do not own them or have never used one.
We wondered this same thing - how many of the people saying there is a problem are actually not even owners?? Thanks for watching!
@@PurpleCollarLife I had a 2015 with a 3.5l ECO. LOVED IT! I heard so much negative stuff about them, yet myself and 2 friends never had any issues. And please note Chev & Toyota have gone to turbos as well in their p/u.
2021 f650 7.3 gas rollback towtruck with 80,000 miles, only problems I've had is sparkplug wires, other than that it's been perfect and I'm not easy on it
Thanks for sharing!
Im one of those with a failed lifter in a pickup, truck is all stock, started ticking around 10,000 miles and got real bad at 20,000 miles. My local dealer replaced the long block at 25,000 miles. No questions asked. Ford is well aware of the problem. My local dealer said they had a bunch of ambulances and motorhomes with failed lifters but my truck was the first pickup that they had done. whole body has to come off of the frame on a lift, etc....
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sorry to hear that your truck is one I've got to make the tally mark in the failure column. Good to know that Ford took care of it though.
How did you know they were failing? Engine light or could you feel it?
I could audibly hear the ticking under load, which as stated got louder and louder.@@Deep_South
what year ??
@@billbeck5232 2021. I had not towed anything, nor had i let the truck idle excessively.
Good video! I own a 2021 F350 Lariat, it has 56,435 miles on it. Daily driver and has not had any problems so far,🤞🏻I too have Ford do 100% of the service. I change the oil at 5k religiously. So far so good!
Thanks for sharing!
I had 2006 F350 6.0 dually with 301,000 miles and it was an amazing truck. No problems, just normal wear, 4 of 8 injectors @ 148K, replaced all, no tranny service or issues etc. Although, I changed oil @ 3500k (most peeps thought that was excessive....not me). The only mod was EGR delete. Awesome truck, now I have the 2021 F-250 7.3, I hope it will be just as reliable, only time will tell but, I will be praying.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the 6.0! That’s great. There was a lot we really liked about our 2005 - but we just couldn’t get that 6.0 to work for us. We tried for 17 years - but couldn’t take any more. I think part of the problem was that we actually didn’t drive the truck regularly enough. You certainly did a lot of oil changes on that Powerstroke! That’s 15 quarts at a time! :) I hope you and I both have your good luck with these 7.3s!
Why didn’t you pick the proven, 6.2?
Same hear had x2 6.o f350s no problems ever delete egr at 50k for safety sake .Other than service work no problems over 200k towing hd for my excavation business.
How did you evade the epa with the egr delete?
Should've got the 6.7..........
I love Ford but they couldn't give one of these trucks. I would IMMEDIATELY trade it in for a powerstroke.
My 2021 F250 with the 7.3 has 39k on it with 1/3 of the miles towing a camper and so far the only issues we’ve experienced have been the plug wire fail and a small oil leak from the rear main oil seal plate.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm right at 5k miles with my 7.3L. I have noticed this problem coming up more lately. I bought the 100k mile service contract when I bought this thing though. Fingers crossed but I'm not going to lose sleep over it regardless of what happens. I did an oil change at 2500 miles and will probably do another one early. Makes me feel better.
I'm right with you, I changed at 3K, and will every 5K regardless if I'm towing, or unloaded. I plan on getting the ESP through Flood Ford soon, but waiting until the dealership tries to fix a couple nuisance issues first. For some reason the Ford app says my truck is in deep sleep mode to conserve battery power because it' says it's low even from day one. The charging pad for my phone while it lights up, does not actually charge, and my rear seat 400w AC outlet does not work.
@@niceatrya3477 mine did the deep sleep thing from day one. There's a software upgrade you can have done to the truck to prevent this but I haven't had time to take it in for it. There's a channel I follow up on here that gives you real repair experiences and he explained it in a video one day. Powerstroke tech talk w/ Arod
I usually don’t go for the extended warranties. But I was definitely glad to find a truck with the Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified used protections. I hope I never need it - but it’s nice to have in my back pocket.
@Nicea Trya - I had the deep sleep thing happen once. I had the truck sitting for about 14 days straight and it came up.
@@PurpleCollarLife that may have been legitimate. I knew mine was BS because I trickle charged my battery and drove the truck for 20 mins and the message came back. I knew that wasn't far enough to kill the battery that much. And then I later found it to be a nuisance message.
So far my 2022 F250 7.3 is great, 2600 miles and 16.4 MPG wow ...... Selling at $59,000. I need long bed, mine is 4 door 6' bed XLT premium pkg
Nice! I've been impressed with the fuel economy in these trucks - considering the size and weight of them, plus the power available. ruclips.net/video/TMQ-QNrPDw4/видео.htmlsi=8rHaW9s6r8AETLef
2022 F350 Platinum Godzilla... purchased used in January 2023 with 2700 miles. Currently has a tick over 5K miles. No issues. Love the truck. As solid as an Amish table and pulls like a team of draft horses.
Thanks!
Wow 5k miles! Amazing.
Sorry I responded.
Was the tick that intake runner control module?
Or is that only on our 6.2l?
I meant just a little over 5k miles. Sorry.
I'm sad to say this but we brought this on ourselves. Car buyers have lowered their standard immensely in the last decades, you guys will pay whatever ridiculous amount if it looks nice, has fancy tech and "power" that most of you never really use. I remember a friend being "brand disappointed" that his car failed after 10 years although being regularlly maintained. In Europe we used to keep them for 15-20 years. Now people make 10k miles reviews praising the car for being sooo reliable :))
I can't say I disagree. I wish we would/could have kept our old vehicles longer. I had a 1983 Ford Bronco that was my favorite vehicle ever. Unfortunately, things just don't last forever and have to be replaced with newer models eventually. Even though I loved that 1983 Bronco - the frame was rusting through (our PA winters with salt hurt the steel), the body was nearing the point of not passing our annual state vehicle inspections. And we like the safety features of the new vehicles to keep our family safe. That old Bronco had no anti-lock brakes, no air bags - not even shoulder seat belts in the rear seats. It didn't even have headrests in the front seats (which can prevent severe neck injuries). So while the Bronco lasted me a long time - we needed to upgrade. And while we liked lots about our 17 year old 2005 F350, that diesel engine was so problematic it wasn't worth keeping (soaking more money into).
I have owned my 95 Dodge Cummins for 24 years, can't find enough reasons to replace probably the best diesel powered truck ever made!
I already found a easy solution. Before the 36k bumper-to-bumper warranty is up buy a factory extended for powertrain. It doesn't cost that much. That's what I'm going to do.
My 2000 BMW 528i is still running awesomely. I do nearly all the MX and repair and in 100k, there have been very few. My '99 4Runner is similarly reliable with 188K on the clock.
@@melissasmess2773 The 12 valve in my '83 Chevy is insanely reliable. Best diesel ever put in a pickup.
Great video 21 7.3 11k no issues. So far when I pull the dip stick it's the cleanest oil I have ever seen even close to change time. I'm not going to worry about it. I saw the box truck video.
Good stuff! I agree - the oil is consistently clean and clear.
Only 10300 miles on my 22f250 bought it brand new and no issues at all with this truck. we love it ! heard it was the cab and chassis trucks that were having this problem but you know some people just love to complain . been a ford guy all my life and im not worried, been plenty of all the brands having a plethora of issues. nothing new.
That's what I've heard too - the cab and chassis trucks. But I wonder if they put different components in those engines - or if those applications are different running conditions. Thanks for watching! I'm hopeful it's much ado about nothing!
I have a 2020 F250 super duty with the Godzilla engine and now have over 46,000 miles on it with NO ISSUES. It has all the power and torque I need to pull my trailer with ease, not to mention that I only get two miles per gallon than my buddy with a 2017 truck with the 6.7l Powerstroke. With his higher fuel bill and MUCH HIGHER maintenance costs, my gas engine costs much less per mile than the diesel. (not to mention saving $10,000 in the purchase price.
Oil doesn't wear out, it gets dirty and the additives get overloaded so changing your oil and filter will improve any engine's life regardless of make and engine size. Oil is MUCH CHEAPER than buying a new engine so it is money well spent
Excellent report! Thank you.
Use racing oil or buy a zinc additive. Change your oil at 4 to 5 months or 5,000 miles or less. Ford tech 36 years.
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. I have been on the fence as to weather I would upgrade from my 2015 6.2l to the 7.3l. Other than regular maintenance the two 6.2l F-250's I have owned have been rock solid, with more than enough power for our use. I think you may be right about the internet blowing the issue out of proportion, but for me it's still a potential deal breaker, at least for the first couple years of production. That being said, any first gen engine runs the risk of a failures. I am fairly certain that Ford has quietly corrected that issue on newer models of the 7.3's.
I'm going to test drive a 7.3 CC dump today. Thinking about trading in my 2015 dump with the 6.2 , trucks been great too
i also heard ford is outing the 6.2 and replacing it with a 6.8 gas
@@rws99l I haven't looked into the 6.8. That may be a good option as well.
Thanks for watching! So far, we’re really happy with the 7.3. Lots of pulling power. I have lots of friends with the 6.2 who wouldn’t trade them for the 7.3 though - just because they really like the 6.2
What did you decide?
Don't forget that a 2% failure rate is in trucks that are at max only 3 years old. By the time these trucks have 100,000 mi or more I think the failure rate is going to be very significant. Likely MUCH more than 2%
You make a good point. There probably aren't many of these 7.3 engines (in comparison to the number manufactured) that have high mileage yet.
I am currently dealing with lifter failure on my 2022 7.3l
My truck has been at the dealer for a month and they still have not authorized any type of repair.
This failure happened at 16,000 miles.
That's horrible. That is exactly what I'm worried about. Since my truck has the 100,000 mile warranty - I'm confident it will be covered. But I'm not liking how many stories like yours that I'm hearing about how long it takes for the repair!
Another 2020 7.3 with lifter failure.
70,000km. Well serviced, maintained, babied unit, not idling, daily driver.
That's horrible!
‘22 250 with this motor. 25,100 miles not a problem yet. Honestly I’m more worried about the transmission. Seems a little clunky to me. Maybe I’m still just not use to it. I will be doing an oil sample on the next change. I’ll be getting oil samples a lot after warranty though 😂
Good idea with the oil sample. I plan to do the same using Blackstone. I also am still getting used to the transmission. That’s another reason I have the long warranty term! :)
I'm going to check into a trans update at ford want to keep the warranty.
Trans is clunky, gets a trans relearn from Ford. Fixed my issues
@@sly9263 did you have to pay for that.
@@mileshiles1287 no- warranty. it's a software thing anyway- low effort from them as I understand.
I've got 20k on my 2021 F250 and no problems so far. Towed 8 times last year. 6 camping trips and 2 big loads of top soil in my utility trailer. I change my oil myself every 5 k miles and it always looks clean. I'm 59 and this is my 7th new Ford truck I've owned. I've had a V6 Ranger, a straight 6 F150, two 5.4 V8's, two 5.0's and now the 7.3. Knock on wood, but I've never had any engine issues with any of them. Maybe it could happen this time but hopefully not. Good luck to all of us!
Thanks for sharing! You've had lots of great Ford vehicles. That straight 6 Ford 300 engine is my favorite all-time. Tons of torque and very reliable. I had the 300 in my 1983 Ford Bronco. I also had a couple Broncos with the 351 Windsor engine. They were great too.
I think maintenance is the key to success with vehicles. But any thing can happen.
I saw one video that correlated the cam lifter issues in vehicles with low rear gear ratios 4:10 - 4:30 resulting in extended high rpm operation. Basically valve float.
Interesting!
High rpm does not equal valve float. Valve float should NOT HAPPEN anywhere in the rev range below factory rpm limit. I don't think 4:30 gears will result in running at the rev limiter.
@@morley3810 it's just what I heard. If the valve springs somehow are weaker than they should be it would seem to me the problems would manifest most frequently in higher rpm vehicles. Also I'm curious what is your definition of valve float?
@@gratefultrucker7781 It's not my definition. Valve float is a pretty well established condition. It's when the springs lose control over the valve movement and can no longer keep the pushrod/lifter etc in contact with the camshaft. This SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING with a stock engine operating ANYWHERE in the rev range permitted by the ECU parameters. If it is, that's a serious engineering deficiency. Although it is a Ford soooooo....
That video would be from someone who's a complete idiot! Good God
The real question is what kind of maintenance was being done with these failures on the 7.3 and how many were in heaven duty applications like motor homes, Uhauls and school buses?
Absolutely - I wish we had that info.
Considering it was built for heavy duty applications, it shouldn't be having issues in those either
What the hell do you think a f350 with a 7.3L engine is for? Getting groceries? Unbelievable ignorance.
@@jeepgirl1653 no that’s what diesel are for. I’m talking about idle time or people who rent shit and don’t take care of them. Some of the recent videos I’ve seen were rental box trucks. I guess they could be getting groceries in them.
Research is not reading through forums. If you think they are. You are not very bright. Forums claim my 2016 F150 2.7 was going to lose at least one turbo by 60k miles. My truck has 93k miles and I'm still running on both stock turbos.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I own 2, 7.3 's. 2020 F 550 xlt, 2022 F 350 xlt. Not a single problem with either so far. I am aware of the cam/lifter issue and some complaints about the 10 speed trans. But so far I have not had any issues at all with either truck.
thanks for sharing your experience!