Dude Torts standing up for a dude that he clashed with multiple times, always remembering that he's a person. I don't always see eye to eye with the coach, but man, he's a real one.
Dude, don’t forget your fellow “fans” who go out and send a guy and his family death threats. They are just as, no, even worse, than the scummy reporters.
@bjrnchrstn yes but the reporters starting rumors are what caused people to say those things. They need to be held accountable for false news/accusations.
Torts is absolutely right on this. The reporter basically caused Kevin Hayes death threats and mocking ms of his dead brother. That’s at best irresponsible and at worst pure evil.
The reporter didn't cause the death threats and trolling, people decided to do that all on their own. I think the reporter was fully in the wrong, love Torts, and love his response here, but I think it's Philly sports fans that should be the most embarrassed here.
@@kevinthedp So tired of people claiming harm from trolls online and death threats, it's so fake. It's a never ending loop of protecting yourself after you misspoke. I'm not sure the reporter was lying, he probably wasn't, and this is how you shape a new narrative
I really like torts for this one reason. He’s so incredibly genuine, whether it’s positive or not. You know he’s being 100% genuine and that’s a great quality to have
@@VestuYep. Torts get labeled an "a$$hole." My view is that he speaks his mind, holds people accountable and refuses to put up with nonsense. Reminds me of my junior varsity 🏈 coach when I played high school ball. My coach used choice language towards us and called us out when we deserved it. Yet, we loved playing for him. Cause he cared about us, wanted success for us, worked very well with the personnel he had, always had our backs and genuinely did not play favorites.
for all the talk of him being an curmudgeon and an asshat, he has such a respect and care for his players (probably why he can be so hard on them too) and one of the few coaches to dig into the media as much as he does the league reps
Well that's because it's real hockey. Not this broomball garbage. No worries, the cancel culture or somebody will come after him and destroy his reputation - spittin Chiclets needs to buy their Hot pockets next summer, their mama's kicked them out of their basements, so they'll destroy Torts next And all the internet fools will go along with it. I don't believe one word out of any of these fair weather fans that they have any respect for any of these coaches after what they did to Babcock. All of this is fake.
The scumbag has no shame. The fake rumor is still up on their instagram page. It has been proven false, and they have not removed it. He's getting clicks and does not care at all about the damage. If he is not an awful human being, then he is a complete idiot, so either way he needs to fuck off.
Torts seems like a great guy to play for. He may be tough and demanding but he has your back. If Gauthier didn't want to be a Flyer because he's scared of him, then that says more about him than it says anything about Torts. He's had the same approach for almost 25 years.
Let's also not forget the numerous wins, playoff appearances, a Stanley cup, oh and a Calder cup. He's one everywhere he's gone. Says more about him as a coach than anything.
some people just don't work with his kind of teachings. Simple as that- i mean why else does everyone say zegras would never have a chance with torts? Look- we don't fully know what went on, and until we do let's just leave it at "whatever the trade happened. Jamie is doing good there"
Tortorella and the media🤣 At least he defends his players, but man oh man this just seems like a situation the Flyers would be in. You said it: genuine. Best way to describe him!
You mean a situation Cutter is in! The Flyers only traded an immature kid that didn't want to be there! And worse he refused repeatedly to meet with their top brass! What a wuss!
How do you know it didn't involve him? They are friends, you don't think they talk about what it's like to play in Philly or what it's like to play for Torts?
I've been a part of a few of these situations that were similar. Kid signs with a team. Team says he should take more time to develop. Kid gets pissed, sounds off to another guy who recently left the team Former player tells him coach is ass and hard to play for Kid decides to jump ship since he thinks/knows he's ready for the NHL Multiple people have said Hayes has his prints all over this. Which gets down to what Hayes said. As long as Hayes is still in the league, he's never going to come 100% clean on what they talked about or what he may have said to Gauthier and he can just deny it till the cows come home. The other part is HOW Gauthier interpreted what Hayes said. What if he just said Torts is a demanding coach so be prepared - or maybe we went full scorched earth and said Torts is an ass, the org sucks, the GM sucks, you shouldn't play there. We'll never know. In the end, Torts' stood up for Hayes which is admirable and defended their relationship. Philly is playing some great puck right now so I doubt this story has any real legs and should die down pretty quickly.
What did that guy think torts was going to say to him? Why would you single yourself out like that? Torts isn’t going to give him a high five or anything like that
As a Bruins fan...I can't like Coach Tortorella...but as a hockey fan and even as a human being...I *love* how he sticks with his team AND (especially) when he pounds on the BS from the "press". Keep it up, Coach!
I Love torts. Always have. I wish more people spoke their mind and say what's truly on their mind the way that he does instead of trying to not offend the NHL so they don't get fined.
Reminded me of John McCain pushing back on the woman who made insulting comments about Obama during the campaign. Albeit, Torts put some mustard on his version. I like what I’m seeing from him.
Can’t say I’m a huge fan of Tort BUT I can’t applaud him enough for addressing the issue this way and rip the reporter a new one. The reporter had the audacity to cite organization sources
John tortorella is a great coach. I loved him in Vancouver. Everyone blocks shot like for the Canucks the sedins even blocked shots. It doesn’t matter if you’re an all star your still blocking shots that’s what makes him so good
But that’s why it didn’t work. They aren’t a shot blocking group. Plus the drama of benching Luongo and everything. Just, bad for us. However, I will say, he had and still has my respect for how he dealt with the line brawl vs the Flames
Negative. While I don’t agree with shot blocking in general. That’s not why the nux sucked. The team was done. And on decline. Nobody could turn that around. Sedins weren’t game changes anymore. When you see what EP and Hughes do now changes games. Seasons. And playoffs. Sedins had it but was already past best before date. This one not on torts.
The media is the absolute worst. As a Leafs fan, I can attest and sympathize. You might not like him, but good on Torts for sticking up for his players.
from a Hawks fan since the early 60s. these F reporters now adays are ignorant, Torts had every right to rip him apart...Too bad we can't go back to the days of Ditka, reporters never ever gave Ditka any crap, and if they did he'd would go to another reporter, and if he did the same thing Ditka would tell them screw you and walk out....Get 'em Torts...
Today's media is awful. Crazy that hayes got death threats over a young dude that did everything except say beat it to the flyers is nuts. Flyers got a good return in a position they need to get better at first.
Yes, lame reporting, yes, Tortorella doing what feels morally right for him...but not enough talk on neanderthals attacking someone's personal life based on one person's say-so, and all over a gawdamm hockey trade?!? Put some perspective on that.
I have no connection to the Flyers but I will always root for any team that employs Tortorella after his comments back when he was the US Olympic oach. He made it clear that anyone who knelt during the Anthem “wouldn’t see the ice”. The POS media gave him flack for it but the man flat-out has morals.
He's from a time when the american flag didn't stand for religious zealots cracking down on womens rights. Totally see where he was coming from. Political climate has been changing way quicker than the actual climate.
Uhhhhh no. If torts can't get with the times and understand the current political climate and not get why someone wouldn't want to respect the flag- that's on him and his boomer ass lmfao. I get what he was trying to do- and i understand his motivation for his words, especially at the olympics. That does not mean he had the correct picture in mind when he was speaking about this. I don't think he's a bad guy for this, it's the Olympics... you're representing your country. If you don't want to, literally why did you accept the position unless held at gunpoint (lol russia).
@@filelps1178 at least he doesn't claim his way is the "correct" way 🤷 Looks like ageism to me.. They come from a different time, different perspectives aren't inherently bad or wrong.
@@antonforsman8099 haha what? M8 idk if you're being fucking stupid on purpose or what, but if he's telling his team that under no circumstances can someone do that under him, YES he thinks his way is the correct way. Different perspectives CAN be bad and wrong. Don't be a dumbass fence sitter.
@@mr.misanthrope1991 Actually, I took journalism in college 20 something years ago. I can tell you have a judgemental superiority complex. I hope your day is as wonderful as you are 🙄
All I got from this video is a coach who stood up for his player and that people on social media are mentally ill. Seriously bringing up his dead brother? The real scum aren't the reporters it's crap peope like this that's the real problem. Calling them passionate Flyers fans is bullshit. You need to call this out as well.
Torts isnt the best at PR, but this was just fine with me. It will probably help team solidarity more then anything, so it serves more then one purpose
Torts is who I would want as my coach. I love his passion. I want to play for a guy who wants to win as much as me. It would light a fire up my arss to play for a guy like that!
This is what I should be saying about the people on Twitter, RUclips and Deviantart that who complain about everything celebrities do and support. Such as controversy. Even if it's an understandable mistake. Or supporting a different side.
That's very admirable of him. I give him credit for that. But he's still a whiny punk. "It was wrong of me in 2016 when I said I'd bench anyone who sat for the national anthem. People should be allowed to stay true to their beliefs. It DISGUSTS me, though. It DISGUSTS me. Grrrr, it SHOULDN'T BE DONE!" Lol people like this should not be taken seriously. Dude has to get over himself overall. He won a Cup two decades ago in pre-lockout NHL. Since then he's gotten to the third round ONCE (and lost).
The dogshit that is 'journalism' has now fully seeped itself all the way into sports. The NHLPA should get in their next contract that they can skip media at anytime, for any reason. Same for the NHL Coaches Assocication. 90% of the questions are canned questions that a 5th grader would ask on 'take your kid to work day'. 'Journalism' needs a HUGE haircut from top to bottom, across all disciplines.
Controversial take - I don't particularly see a problem with the journalism, as journalism is defined today. As an NHL player, Hayes has at least somewhat of an influence on other NHL-caliber players, even if it's unconscious. Whether he directly influenced Gauthier is a different matter. And all of that is irrelevant to what Hayes is actually pushing back against, which is being bombarded by hostile morons. I see the actual problem in fans (particularly on the internet) being legitimate avatars of human-shaped garbage. The fan reaction is not proportional to what was reported. That's on the fans, not the reporter. In a different market, this story is broken and the fans response would probably be more along the lines of...."ok" So to recap: Reporter - Doing his job, reporting what he's hearing, in a world of click bait and first-over-truth journalism > in the right. Hayes - Did or did not influence Gauthier, completely irrelevant, doing his job > in the right. Torts - Defending his players, doing his job > in the right. Gauthier - Enacting his right to his own autonomy, maybe didn't handle it in the most graceful way (he's 19 let's remember), doing his job > in the right. Fans - Issuing death threats and celebrating the fraternal death of an actual human being, over a game they don't play, because a guy they know very little about not wanting to play for "their" team, but got a pretty damn good return for anyway > Completely, totally, 100% inexcusably in the wrong.
Yes, SOME reporters are scummy, but there are the readers who eat that sensationalism up, which reinforces the scummy reporting. Chicken and egg. Not much we can do except all try to be better and avoid clickbait
Unrelated. I think Joey Daccord of the Kraken deserves to play in the all-star game with how well he has been playing. Crazy good saves and crazy good stats. Recently
Oh and a side note, the reporter who got lit up had the balls to make a tweet on X about it saying his tirade was "completely unprompted". He was promptly dragged through the mud by X users. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why Tortorella will never worry about being out of a job in any market. He knows exactly how to handle the media and doesn't give a s%^$ about how far his foot goes up someone. Would love to see coaching the Leafs, but let's face it, he'd have a heartattack, stroke, and multiple ulcers before the first question got asked 😔
Good for Torts. As newspapers and magazines fade away " journalism" and " reporting" are becoming more and more sleazy just to be relevant. The Toronto Sun was recently outed for a clickbait headline that was totally misleading to readers and offensive the the player. This repoters actions regarding his salacious story on Kevin Hayes should see him fired. Just putting this out there because I havent seen this mentioned yet - Gautheir's agent is known to push player- team boundaries very aggresively, so maybe it isn't suprising what happened here..Trouba and Laine both forced their trades from Winnipeg, for different reasons, both are clients the same guy. He looks after the true desires of the player no matter what. Like him or not he's a good player agent.
This right here is why people are hateful and distrustful of the media. You're supposed to report FACTS not facts with your personal or corporate agenda mixed in. This goes beyond sports reporting and is really why our political discourse is so broken. Too much emphasis on being first and getting clicks instead of being right .
Good on Torts shafting that BS reporter. Gauthier may be against Briere's son's inexcusable action toward handicapped people, pushing the wheelchair down the stairs and damaging it. Did Briere apologize for his son's action or even say something responsible or compensate those innocent people? Even though his son was not in the Flyer's organization, how can the GM deter others from copying cat his son and linking this incident to his Flyers? it was a private decision by Gauthier not to play for the Flyers and this seemed like the most plausible reason, given Danny probably did not do too much to diffuse his son's inexcusable action?
I dont even follow the NHL or any sports for that matter because they went woke, but i will say torts was always an excellent coach. Cares for his guys. Holds them accountable but has their backs. Calls out nonsense reporters.
"sometimes he's a little old-fashioned" . So what? He's the coach, he has a lot of coaching experience and he knows how to win. What do ya want him to do? Hold the players hands and give them big hugs when they play badly?
I would've been more ruthless. my drean is to tell a journalist to take a look back at 2023 and to say to youself before 2024 to be more intteligent that what resolution are for. to take a hiatus do something constructive like go talk to youngsters in need to make your neighbourhood better. and I would say I want to know your past papers you wrote/question you asked to gauge if you got better or worst. if its better, youre doing not good enough work on your field more if worst I would tell the guy do us a favor quit while youre ''ahead'' cause nothing good will come from you in the future. what pisses me off is journalist like this guy will not take anyone critisism and will stay dumb all carrer long. journalism and ego goes hand in hand.
I am soooo tired of so-called reporters speculating. Setting up a player to be the fall guy like Hayes is BS. To set him up to the idiots online who attack the player, his family, his deceased brother is all on this one prick of a reporter.
I love Torts, and he’s so right about this. But, at the end, there’s an implication by whomever that the death threats were the reporter’s fault. They weren’t. The nutcases who threatened him are the criminals, not the reporter. He can’t control what others do. You can’t blame someone for others’ actions, or reactions. Again, Torts was right, and the reporter’s a dick. But he didn’t threaten anyone, and he didn’t convince or coerce anyone to threaten anyone. He just wrote some BS. Blame the actual sociopaths. The ones who made the threats.
Torts should call out the so-called fans who are making the death threats. But let’s be honest, he doesn’t have the guts. Easier to go off on someone who’s already got a bunch of other people calling him out.
Counterpoint; whether the report was 100% true or false, maybe the people that are actually in the wrong are the pieces of shit sending death threats and mocking Hayes brothers death? Like, the big problem with Hayes getting death threats isn't that someone probably erroneously reported that Hayes advised a teenager against signing with a team, its that people read that report and decided to send him death threats.
Dude Torts standing up for a dude that he clashed with multiple times, always remembering that he's a person. I don't always see eye to eye with the coach, but man, he's a real one.
“You are absolute bullshit”
Also
“I’m sorry, go ahead”
😂😂😂😂
Love him or hate him, he’s going to stick up for his players. What a stand up guy!
Edit: I seem to have started a scuffle in the replies
Not even his player anymore, a guy who he famously fought with to the point he left the team, stuck up for him anyway. Torts' a beauty.
And 20 years later he still coaching in this league. Mad respect!
you ass I broke my screen swatting at it because of you. jk.
he is a clown
@@boston3233Yeah that's why we traded him to the Blues!
These reporters are so scummy. Hayes and Torts had a very public row and even still Torts comes out and has his back. Good coach, and a better man.
Dude, don’t forget your fellow “fans” who go out and send a guy and his family death threats. They are just as, no, even worse, than the scummy reporters.
@bjrnchrstn yes but the reporters starting rumors are what caused people to say those things. They need to be held accountable for false news/accusations.
The reporters are scummy and do anything for clicks, but let’s not ignore that the ”fans” are the real problem.
@@TriconPOE both are the real problem
@@switchgear100 it's cause and effect.
Torts is absolutely right on this. The reporter basically caused Kevin Hayes death threats and mocking ms of his dead brother. That’s at best irresponsible and at worst pure evil.
Irresponsible by the reporter. Pure evil from the trolls.
The reporter didn't cause the death threats and trolling, people decided to do that all on their own. I think the reporter was fully in the wrong, love Torts, and love his response here, but I think it's Philly sports fans that should be the most embarrassed here.
@@kevinthedp So tired of people claiming harm from trolls online and death threats, it's so fake. It's a never ending loop of protecting yourself after you misspoke. I'm not sure the reporter was lying, he probably wasn't, and this is how you shape a new narrative
Ridiculous. The death threats are not the reporters fault and you are a fool if you are denying players talk.
@@Leroy-df3ee found the reporters alt
I really like torts for this one reason. He’s so incredibly genuine, whether it’s positive or not. You know he’s being 100% genuine and that’s a great quality to have
Oldschool stand up guy
@@VestuYep. Torts get labeled an "a$$hole." My view is that he speaks his mind, holds people accountable and refuses to put up with nonsense. Reminds me of my junior varsity 🏈 coach when I played high school ball. My coach used choice language towards us and called us out when we deserved it. Yet, we loved playing for him. Cause he cared about us, wanted success for us, worked very well with the personnel he had, always had our backs and genuinely did not play favorites.
for all the talk of him being an curmudgeon and an asshat, he has such a respect and care for his players (probably why he can be so hard on them too)
and one of the few coaches to dig into the media as much as he does the league reps
Well that's because it's real hockey. Not this broomball garbage.
No worries, the cancel culture or somebody will come after him and destroy his reputation - spittin Chiclets needs to buy their Hot pockets next summer, their mama's kicked them out of their basements, so they'll destroy Torts next
And all the internet fools will go along with it.
I don't believe one word out of any of these fair weather fans that they have any respect for any of these coaches after what they did to Babcock.
All of this is fake.
People these days have no morals, man. Bringing up Hayes’s deceased brother. Really? I’m glad I was taught not to be an a$$hole
We are so blessed to have Torts as our coach, what an authentic dude.
That reporter had some nerve to admit freely in front of Torts that he spread the Kevin Hayes “news” especIally at a presser
The scumbag has no shame. The fake rumor is still up on their instagram page. It has been proven false, and they have not removed it. He's getting clicks and does not care at all about the damage. If he is not an awful human being, then he is a complete idiot, so either way he needs to fuck off.
SanFillpo is pretty well known there. Every reporter in the room knew who it was and where he was sitting
Torts seems like a great guy to play for. He may be tough and demanding but he has your back. If Gauthier didn't want to be a Flyer because he's scared of him, then that says more about him than it says anything about Torts. He's had the same approach for almost 25 years.
Let's also not forget the numerous wins, playoff appearances, a Stanley cup, oh and a Calder cup. He's one everywhere he's gone. Says more about him as a coach than anything.
The only coach who has ever managed to squeeze playoff success put of the blue jackets. No one else could have pulled off that Lightning series.
@@colinmccann221just don’t mention his time in Vancouver 😉
@@borismuller86 don't mention Scotty Bowman's time in Buffalo either. Every coach if in the game long enough has place it just didn't work out.
some people just don't work with his kind of teachings. Simple as that- i mean why else does everyone say zegras would never have a chance with torts? Look- we don't fully know what went on, and until we do let's just leave it at "whatever the trade happened. Jamie is doing good there"
Tortorella and the media🤣
At least he defends his players, but man oh man this just seems like a situation the Flyers would be in. You said it: genuine. Best way to describe him!
You mean a situation Cutter is in! The Flyers only traded an immature kid that didn't want to be there! And worse he refused repeatedly to meet with their top brass! What a wuss!
No idea how Hayes caught strays for a situation that didn't even involve him, but that reporter / "source" should be ashamed.
Hayes is lying, allegedly
How do you know it didn't involve him? They are friends, you don't think they talk about what it's like to play in Philly or what it's like to play for Torts?
He probably didn’t wanna sign with Philly because than he would have to spend a lot of time in the sh ithole that is Philly
Pretty much. I would play anywhere else but there😂
@@leadnsteel1428So you would play in Washington,NY,Chicago,LA,Seattle? Good luck with that!
I've been a part of a few of these situations that were similar.
Kid signs with a team.
Team says he should take more time to develop.
Kid gets pissed, sounds off to another guy who recently left the team
Former player tells him coach is ass and hard to play for
Kid decides to jump ship since he thinks/knows he's ready for the NHL
Multiple people have said Hayes has his prints all over this. Which gets down to what Hayes said. As long as Hayes is still in the league, he's never going to come 100% clean on what they talked about or what he may have said to Gauthier and he can just deny it till the cows come home. The other part is HOW Gauthier interpreted what Hayes said. What if he just said Torts is a demanding coach so be prepared - or maybe we went full scorched earth and said Torts is an ass, the org sucks, the GM sucks, you shouldn't play there.
We'll never know. In the end, Torts' stood up for Hayes which is admirable and defended their relationship. Philly is playing some great puck right now so I doubt this story has any real legs and should die down pretty quickly.
What did that guy think torts was going to say to him? Why would you single yourself out like that? Torts isn’t going to give him a high five or anything like that
As a Bruins fan...I can't like Coach Tortorella...but as a hockey fan and even as a human being...I *love* how he sticks with his team AND (especially) when he pounds on the BS from the "press".
Keep it up, Coach!
Near the end you said "ethical reporting". Those two words almost never go together, in my opinion.
I am a Blues fan and I have always loved Tortorella, what a man, what a legend!!!
Torts has grown on me. Stands on business.
I Love torts. Always have. I wish more people spoke their mind and say what's truly on their mind the way that he does instead of trying to not offend the NHL so they don't get fined.
Reminded me of John McCain pushing back on the woman who made insulting comments about Obama during the campaign. Albeit, Torts put some mustard on his version. I like what I’m seeing from him.
Which is one of the reasons he (and Mitt) lost.
Can’t say I’m a huge fan of Tort BUT I can’t applaud him enough for addressing the issue this way and rip the reporter a new one. The reporter had the audacity to cite organization sources
John tortorella is a great coach. I loved him in Vancouver. Everyone blocks shot like for the Canucks the sedins even blocked shots. It doesn’t matter if you’re an all star your still blocking shots that’s what makes him so good
But that’s why it didn’t work. They aren’t a shot blocking group. Plus the drama of benching Luongo and everything. Just, bad for us. However, I will say, he had and still has my respect for how he dealt with the line brawl vs the Flames
That’s what made the Canucks suck when he was there
Negative. While I don’t agree with shot blocking in general. That’s not why the nux sucked. The team was done. And on decline. Nobody could turn that around. Sedins weren’t game changes anymore. When you see what EP and Hughes do now changes games. Seasons. And playoffs. Sedins had it but was already past best before date. This one not on torts.
Torts went on for a bit more than you showed in the clip. He was peeved.
The media is the absolute worst. As a Leafs fan, I can attest and sympathize. You might not like him, but good on Torts for sticking up for his players.
The media have been crapping all over Torts since day 1,, he tells like it is they keep asking dumb questions.... I like his style//
Hate the Flyers, but Torts has so much of my respect. You don’t see this sort of thing too often. Good stuff!
from a Hawks fan since the early 60s. these F reporters now adays are ignorant, Torts had every right to rip him apart...Too bad we can't go back to the days of Ditka, reporters never ever gave Ditka any crap, and if they did he'd would go to another reporter, and if he did the same thing Ditka would tell them screw you and walk out....Get 'em Torts...
Today's media is awful. Crazy that hayes got death threats over a young dude that did everything except say beat it to the flyers is nuts. Flyers got a good return in a position they need to get better at first.
Torts can be abrasive, but always maintains his integrity. Men who cannot respect that are no men at all.
toronto and philly the two worst cities for sports media
Brought to you from the same journalism school of 'Perry slept with Bedard's mom'. 😂
You say sometimes he’s old fashioned like it’s a diss… the world needs more Torts!
Yes, lame reporting, yes, Tortorella doing what feels morally right for him...but not enough talk on neanderthals attacking someone's personal life based on one person's say-so, and all over a gawdamm hockey trade?!? Put some perspective on that.
Totally agree… how are people letting the fans off so easy?
That reporter’s smug answer to Torts in the beginning tells you everything you need to know about that reporter
I looked him up. He even looks like a lying scummy creep.
I have no connection to the Flyers but I will always root for any team that employs Tortorella after his comments back when he was the US Olympic oach. He made it clear that anyone who knelt during the Anthem “wouldn’t see the ice”. The POS media gave him flack for it but the man flat-out has morals.
He's from a time when the american flag didn't stand for religious zealots cracking down on womens rights. Totally see where he was coming from. Political climate has been changing way quicker than the actual climate.
Uhhhhh no. If torts can't get with the times and understand the current political climate and not get why someone wouldn't want to respect the flag- that's on him and his boomer ass lmfao.
I get what he was trying to do- and i understand his motivation for his words, especially at the olympics. That does not mean he had the correct picture in mind when he was speaking about this.
I don't think he's a bad guy for this, it's the Olympics... you're representing your country. If you don't want to, literally why did you accept the position unless held at gunpoint (lol russia).
@@filelps1178 at least he doesn't claim his way is the "correct" way 🤷 Looks like ageism to me.. They come from a different time, different perspectives aren't inherently bad or wrong.
@@antonforsman8099 haha what? M8 idk if you're being fucking stupid on purpose or what, but if he's telling his team that under no circumstances can someone do that under him, YES he thinks his way is the correct way. Different perspectives CAN be bad and wrong.
Don't be a dumbass fence sitter.
Torts would take a bullet for his players, he's an awesome coach. Just so happens he's hilarious too
I’m very new to the NHL, but one thing I’ve learned is how much of a gem Tortorella is.
Ah Torts never change! 🤣
"Ethical reporting"? Didn't that go extinct between 2016 and 2020?
Lmao you think it was that recently. I can tell you’re just a headline reader
@@mr.misanthrope1991 Actually, I took journalism in college 20 something years ago. I can tell you have a judgemental superiority complex. I hope your day is as wonderful as you are 🙄
All I got from this video is a coach who stood up for his player and that people on social media are mentally ill. Seriously bringing up his dead brother? The real scum aren't the reporters it's crap peope like this that's the real problem. Calling them passionate Flyers fans is bullshit. You need to call this out as well.
Torts owes Hayes nothing.
Damn good presser
A Boeing Airbus A319 .... Sure it wasn't a Lockheed Douglass DC-L1011?
Torts isnt the best at PR, but this was just fine with me. It will probably help team solidarity more then anything, so it serves more then one purpose
Torts is amazing haha
When reporter gives Tortorella trouble, 20 NHL players will invite him over for supper and thank him.
Torts is who I would want as my coach. I love his passion. I want to play for a guy who wants to win as much as me. It would light a fire up my arss to play for a guy like that!
Torts gets the most out of his players. Columbus hasn't been relevant since he departed.
again, torts and his schtick that is like old milk...he'll be out of philly by xmas next year...his act gets very tiring and old...yawn
This is what I should be saying about the people on Twitter, RUclips and Deviantart that who complain about everything celebrities do and support. Such as controversy. Even if it's an understandable mistake. Or supporting a different side.
Wow Mike Keenan looks different, oh wait it's John Tortorella. Same personality!
Not literally but Sanfilipo sorta kinda of doxed Hayes by putting his name out there. Can't commend Torts enough for standing up for Hayes.
See, this is why I LOVE Torts--just like Trump he isn't afraid to go toe to toe with these slimy little media pricks! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I would go into battle for Torts.
I second that.
That's very admirable of him. I give him credit for that. But he's still a whiny punk.
"It was wrong of me in 2016 when I said I'd bench anyone who sat for the national anthem. People should be allowed to stay true to their beliefs. It DISGUSTS me, though. It DISGUSTS me. Grrrr, it SHOULDN'T BE DONE!"
Lol people like this should not be taken seriously. Dude has to get over himself overall. He won a Cup two decades ago in pre-lockout NHL. Since then he's gotten to the third round ONCE (and lost).
They're pretty bad down there in Philadelphia. But we've got a guy Simmons in Toronto. Who's 10 times worse than anybody on the planet?
The dogshit that is 'journalism' has now fully seeped itself all the way into sports. The NHLPA should get in their next contract that they can skip media at anytime, for any reason. Same for the NHL Coaches Assocication. 90% of the questions are canned questions that a 5th grader would ask on 'take your kid to work day'.
'Journalism' needs a HUGE haircut from top to bottom, across all disciplines.
Controversial take - I don't particularly see a problem with the journalism, as journalism is defined today. As an NHL player, Hayes has at least somewhat of an influence on other NHL-caliber players, even if it's unconscious. Whether he directly influenced Gauthier is a different matter. And all of that is irrelevant to what Hayes is actually pushing back against, which is being bombarded by hostile morons. I see the actual problem in fans (particularly on the internet) being legitimate avatars of human-shaped garbage. The fan reaction is not proportional to what was reported. That's on the fans, not the reporter.
In a different market, this story is broken and the fans response would probably be more along the lines of...."ok"
So to recap:
Reporter - Doing his job, reporting what he's hearing, in a world of click bait and first-over-truth journalism > in the right.
Hayes - Did or did not influence Gauthier, completely irrelevant, doing his job > in the right.
Torts - Defending his players, doing his job > in the right.
Gauthier - Enacting his right to his own autonomy, maybe didn't handle it in the most graceful way (he's 19 let's remember), doing his job > in the right.
Fans - Issuing death threats and celebrating the fraternal death of an actual human being, over a game they don't play, because a guy they know very little about not wanting to play for "their" team, but got a pretty damn good return for anyway > Completely, totally, 100% inexcusably in the wrong.
“Old-fashioned”..? New fashion kinda sucks…🤷🏻♂️
he is the guy i would play for all day long,
you know he has your back regardless of what happens on or off ice when we both argue
Truly A kid going to the NHL refusing to play for the team he drafted by should'nt get to play. Sets a really shitty precendent
Who wants to live in philly ? It’s a dump of a city. And blah blah blah I lived in Conshohocken for 18 months so I do know what I’m talking about.
Yes, SOME reporters are scummy, but there are the readers who eat that sensationalism up, which reinforces the scummy reporting. Chicken and egg. Not much we can do except all try to be better and avoid clickbait
Gathier has stronger ties to York and Brink because they all played in the USDT system.
He’s actively ruining this team. Some washed up coach got rid of ur prospect
That reporter should be absolutely ashamed of himself but we all know he isn't and will continue because "we have rights as reporters" bullshit.
Unrelated. I think Joey Daccord of the Kraken deserves to play in the all-star game with how well he has been playing.
Crazy good saves and crazy good stats. Recently
Here's my question. Wtf is up with "Pride Night"? I thought they were all done with that shit.
Oh and a side note, the reporter who got lit up had the balls to make a tweet on X about it saying his tirade was "completely unprompted".
He was promptly dragged through the mud by X users.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why Tortorella will never worry about being out of a job in any market. He knows exactly how to handle the media and doesn't give a s%^$ about how far his foot goes up someone. Would love to see coaching the Leafs, but let's face it, he'd have a heartattack, stroke, and multiple ulcers before the first question got asked 😔
Good for Torts. As newspapers and magazines fade away " journalism" and " reporting" are becoming more and more sleazy just to be relevant. The Toronto Sun was recently outed for a clickbait headline that was totally misleading to readers and offensive the the player. This repoters actions regarding his salacious story on Kevin Hayes should see him fired. Just putting this out there because I havent seen this mentioned yet - Gautheir's agent is known to push player- team boundaries very aggresively, so maybe it isn't suprising what happened here..Trouba and Laine both forced their trades from Winnipeg, for different reasons, both are clients the same guy. He looks after the true desires of the player no matter what. Like him or not he's a good player agent.
Im so glad we have Torts as a coach, hes a great but an even better man.
This right here is why people are hateful and distrustful of the media. You're supposed to report FACTS not facts with your personal or corporate agenda mixed in. This goes beyond sports reporting and is really why our political discourse is so broken. Too much emphasis on being first and getting clicks instead of being right .
Good on Torts shafting that BS reporter. Gauthier may be against Briere's son's inexcusable action toward handicapped people, pushing the wheelchair down the stairs and damaging it. Did Briere apologize for his son's action or even say something responsible or compensate those innocent people? Even though his son was not in the Flyer's organization, how can the GM deter others from copying cat his son and linking this incident to his Flyers? it was a private decision by Gauthier not to play for the Flyers and this seemed like the most plausible reason, given Danny probably did not do too much to diffuse his son's inexcusable action?
Cutter did come out and say on a ducks podcast saying Kevin Hayes had absolutely zero influence on his decision to not sign with Philly.
2014 - 1975 = almost 50 long years and counting
I dont even follow the NHL or any sports for that matter because they went woke, but i will say torts was always an excellent coach. Cares for his guys. Holds them accountable but has their backs. Calls out nonsense reporters.
Ethical reporting has long since gone the way of the dodo bird since it’s all about getting clicks and who can break the news the quickest
Looking past this situation can’t everyone see the obvious. The kid didn’t want to play for Torts. This is not the first time.
"sometimes he's a little old-fashioned" . So what? He's the coach, he has a lot of coaching experience and he knows how to win. What do ya want him to do? Hold the players hands and give them big hugs when they play badly?
I would've been more ruthless. my drean is to tell a journalist to take a look back at 2023 and to say to youself before 2024 to be more intteligent that what resolution are for. to take a hiatus do something constructive like go talk to youngsters in need to make your neighbourhood better. and I would say I want to know your past papers you wrote/question you asked to gauge if you got better or worst. if its better, youre doing not good enough work on your field more if worst I would tell the guy do us a favor quit while youre ''ahead'' cause nothing good will come from you in the future. what pisses me off is journalist like this guy will not take anyone critisism and will stay dumb all carrer long. journalism and ego goes hand in hand.
Do you think Cutter would have refused to play for the Flyers if Ed Snider was still with us? I don’t think so either!
You really do the minimum amount of research before giving your opinion, don't you?
It really isn’t that big of a deal…quite an easy thing to brush off for a normal mature adult… stop this censoring BS…
Looks like Brooksie is no longer the scapegoat haha...the balls on some of these f--kin' reporters, I tell ya! 🤣🤮
Ethical reporting? No such thing anymore.
I am soooo tired of so-called reporters speculating. Setting up a player to be the fall guy like Hayes is BS. To set him up to the idiots online who attack the player, his family, his deceased brother is all on this one prick of a reporter.
Imagine going to school and thinking “I wanna be a news reporter” in todays day. Gotta have a screw loose
I love Torts, and he’s so right about this.
But, at the end, there’s an implication by whomever that the death threats were the reporter’s fault. They weren’t.
The nutcases who threatened him are the criminals, not the reporter. He can’t control what others do. You can’t blame someone for others’ actions, or reactions.
Again, Torts was right, and the reporter’s a dick. But he didn’t threaten anyone, and he didn’t convince or coerce anyone to threaten anyone. He just wrote some BS.
Blame the actual sociopaths. The ones who made the threats.
I heard it first on flyers pod snow the goalie from Anthony Sanfilipo. He is part of the flyers media so im assuming thats who Torts was talking to.
What org does that reporter work for? I’d like to blacklist them from my news feed
Torts should call out the so-called fans who are making the death threats. But let’s be honest, he doesn’t have the guts. Easier to go off on someone who’s already got a bunch of other people calling him out.
The flyers hired Tortorella 2 months after drafting Cutbait . Do the math.
Tortorella always believes he's right and everyone else is wrong no matter the circumstance.
Counterpoint; whether the report was 100% true or false, maybe the people that are actually in the wrong are the pieces of shit sending death threats and mocking Hayes brothers death? Like, the big problem with Hayes getting death threats isn't that someone probably erroneously reported that Hayes advised a teenager against signing with a team, its that people read that report and decided to send him death threats.
After all this i still dont get what happened or why it happened..all i know it involves Torts and Hayes
Just get the media out of sports in general. 99% of their questions are idiotic anyways
How dare that reporter cause a problem for Hayes! Only Torts is allowed to say mean shit to his players. How dare he!
There should be a sign somewhere in the NHL that says Lee commissioner Must Be This Tall
I mean it’s Philly. You expect the fan base to *NOT* be piles of 💩