I’ve deleted my Facebook account. Facebook reacted like I was breaking up with a girlfriend, threats of what I’m going to miss, pictures from my friends accounts shown, groups I’m going to miss out on, and finally after clicking all the through, how I still have 30days to rethink my decision. Disgusting.
They will even send you emails after the 30 days, saying things like " You're friends miss you, come back." Deleted my account a year ago and every so often I get an email, still....
Only 1 hour in to the podcast, but have to comment - guests like this is why i listen to the podcast, it really makes me think. Im Literally listening to every word being said.
@R3DPR0J3KT I've explained what's bad about Joe in other comments here. He's a terrible interviewer, constantly steps on guests' replies, has a fragile ego, and is a remarkably average person, whose podcast isn't as amazing as you think it is. He just started earlier than most people, so he had a head start. But you have to actually be paying attention to see that, instead of being a fanboi in a cult of personality. If you think Joe is great, your standards are too low.
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by surprise, unexpectantly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes. Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way. It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
That’s the benefit when we listen to each other no one has to agree , but if we all give each other a chance there is so much room for growth. … like I don’t know you but I read your comment I agree now here I am posting my thoughts to hope to share as well . It’s amazing now days to see we are so far from each other but yet so close the internet is something special but it’s how it’s being used just like any weapons , guns , etc things can be used for good but good and be also used for bad 💙 to everyone out there times are evolving stay in tune stay in contact with those you love try new things meet new people live life the best way you can or know how and don’t be afraid to try new things or ask questions!!
I spent my childhood growing up with Tristan. I knew back then he was gifted but seeing how far he has grown is mind boggling. Hope you’re doing well buddy.
We need Daniel Schmachtenberger doing a full episode on JRE by himself. This guy is literally the smartest most articulate person I’ve ever seen. Everything he says is brilliant.
I've listened to hundreds of JRE episodes over the years and while many of them have been exceptionally compelling, funny, scary, thought provoking, frustrating and entertaining to name but a few choice adjectives, I believe this episode is perhaps the single most important piece of JRE media to date. This should be mandatory listening for any and all capable of comprehending the sheer gravity and necessary urgency of the subject material at hand.
well said and agreed.... Jaron Lanier is the OG on preaching about this very issue. He's very fun to listen to if you havent already. This is the most important issue at this time that we have ever faced as a species. Right next to nuclear bombs. Wish it was more mainstream
Ha! Glad to see another person who knows Lanier. He is the OG for these ideas. Tristan is the younger, sexier, more photogenic messenger that hopefully can connect more with the general public.
its 99% ruined women from 10 to 50 years old, trying to date a pretty girl your literally competing with 10,000 other dudes all giving her the same attention, giving gifts, paying their bills, ect ect, and these women all day long take pics and vids of themselves getting a huge ego and being 100% self absorbed, I can get hot girls but now I live by the 1960s song "Happy Life" the lyrics are: If you wanna have a happy life you better get yourself an ugly wife, from my personal point of view get an ugly girl to marry you!"
As a ER nurse I have been seeing significantly more amounts of young girls self harming in the past 2 years. I have worked from Seattle to Sarasota Florida to Minnesota to Alabama to Indiana. This is increasing all across the country. It’s so sad. So many damaged children 😢
@@Pfsif it's gotten so bad that is goes beyond parents frankly. You either engage and feel like shit, or you don't become socially isolated. I cant say I particularly understand it as a dude, but I can see it is more complicated as a young dude.
MORE OF DANIEL AND TRISTAN, PLEASE! Yes, indeed. These are the kinds of guests I want to hear from more often. Loved seeing them on Lex's podcasts... definitely love how succinctly and intelligently they are putting things, too. SPOT ON regarding our human emotions... social constructs... governments... and finally, the over-powered, 'god like' technology. EXACTLY. Dangerous.
I’ve stopped using social media about 4 weeks ago.. I just wanted to try it out for 2 but I liked it so much that I just continued.. If you feel you’re using your phone too much and you get angry of the things you see on the internet, try to not use it anymore.. There is a lot going on in the world right now but if you don’t see it all day every day, life seems pretty normal 🧘🏼♀️
totally agree with you, I stopped watching tik tok and instagram. Now I only use messenger with friends and watch podcast videos on youtube. Life is so much better. It's exhausting trying to live up to an expectation or standard of beauty that is unattainable; we should learn to be happy and love ourselves more.
RUclips comments are an extension of social media. Even if it’s not as toxic, it’s just as superfluous. And I’m aware that I’m falling victim to it at this very moment.
One of the worst fall outs of social media apps has been shorter attention spans imo. This need for constant attention grabbing newness has created a lot of problems in multiple facets of life.
You're watching a snippet from a 3 hour conversation. I think the fact "long form" has come about suggests the short attention span dilemma will only be short lived. The market has spoken. Long live long form!
"Call it women's intuition, but I think I'm on to something here; Temporary-ism has been the black plague, and the Jesus of our age." - Incubus- Just a Phase 🎶
Yeah bruh I never had a Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, or whatever else there is. I can't say my life has been all peachy, but I can say that there is ZERO incidents where not having social media has been a disadvantage. It's a timesink as far as I can tell. Utterly useless, like smoking.
You’ll be living a great life until the world implodes around you. If you listen to one Rogan podcast this year, it should be this one. The topic these guys are talking about is very important to society as a whole, and it will impact you eventually. Better to start paying attention now.
@@andybaldman the world is imploding from totalitarians, communists and corporatists. Not from your electronic playtoys and virtual BS. The problem there is lazy, spineless people getting sucked into virtual BS. Try growing some food and fixing the hole your roof with their 'scary algorithms', or better yet, see how important these pathetic digital toys are when your energy supply is GONE and you are freezing to death!
@@cdpmedia2011 How do you think those people in power got there? Hint: It's the 'electronic playtoys' that everyone spends all their time on all day, and freely posts every detail about themselves on. And if you're one of these preppers who is planning for an armageddon, keep planning. It isn't going to go that way. But keep spending money on your underground bunker. Lots of people are making money off of your fear. Anything that ignites the spirit can be weaponized.
Without a doubt the most compelling and important episode Joe has put out. Been listening to Tristan and Daniels dialogue for several years now and it's crazy to watch all of these issues intersect. Glad this 1-2 punch is out in the mainstream now.
I have to disagree, these two came off as total utopian thinking 'AI Overlord' types. Hyper rationality is a fail in nature. Read up on some evolutionary biology and even game theory...we are social/emotional and abstract in our thinking for a reason. We are only really rationally and mathematical in our thinking when generally calm and not in distress FOR A REASON. Trust evolution, we are wired the way we are for a reason.
@@fortusvictus8297 The poddy didn't allow for them (Daniel especially) to fully expand on their thoughts. He brings in evo biology, game theory, as well as spirituality, self-development, complexity thinking, anthropology. His very quick word on a 'cultural enlightenment' isn't driven by rationality. Though I can see how he did come across in this as hyper-rational, fair enough :) but I highly recommend more of his material
70 minutes in and Tristan is just dominating the conversation. This other cat has hardly spoken...and from what he's said so far, I'd rather him speak instead of Tristan.
@@thebert8141 yeah fair enough, on the whole though, it does seem these two guys are serious about what they say and are invested in this. Made me take more notice, these guys are not fucking around imo
Social media and these algorithms have caused people to be more emotional and to think with their brain stem. The progression of this is scary in its speed. Makes me wonder how much worse it’s going to get. My dad told me stories of his grandfather telling him in the 1950’s how technology and automation would destroy us. He was right.
just imagine once VR and stuff like meta becomes the norm among teens - probably only a couple of years away. in the past this sort of old people "things are changing too much" thing was a meme. now it's a genuine reality, things ARE changing too much and we're going to a terrible dystopian place
I recommend reading the short story 'The Machine Stops'. It's crazy how accurate it reflects society today and how dependant we are on technology / the Internet. The story was first published in 1909..
Tech is moving faster than competency, and therefore regulation. We can't regulate that which we don't even understand. The pace of growth is insane...
No need to groom when there's more than enough ppl willing to be apart of it. We need to stop just blaming big companies and start taking responsibility for what we do have a choice in.
im fucking excited for the metaverse... a lot of morons think its a facebook invention.. its been coming for decades. Microsoft and many other companies have been trying to build it. Most morons who fear monger just hate zuckerberg.
Have been following Daniel Schmactenberger for a few years and is such an important voice for humanity. As is Tristan Harris as they both are driven by compassion, and both use their intelligence and learning with the intention to help society on the largest scale possible. Should have a conversation with Jamie Wheal and John Vervake also to cover the meaning crisis, it’s great that these voices are being amplified.
Thank God there are sane people in the world. We wouldn't know it watching mainstream media. Joe Rogan is a treasure. Keep the great guests coming and the conversation going.
I feel bad for Daniel in this episode. Tristan is great too, but if you look at Daniel's podcast with Eric Weinstein, he is even broader in how deep and eye-opening he can go, but he was too polite towards Tristan dominating the mic. If Joe gave Daniel an episode on his own, I think Joe would realize the goldmine of wisdom Daniel offers towards a broad range of issues.
I thought Daniel's talk on Tristan's podcast titled "A Problem Well-Stated is half solved" is even more profound. He really gets into what the potential solutions/social system might look like. If you liked the convo with Weinstein I think you might also really appreciate the one on Tristan's podcast.
@@Dilmahkana More solutions would help I think. It's common though that people don't necessarily have solutions to offer, and I understand these are complex issues, good solutions are not at all easy. Recognising there is a problem and sussing out the details is a necessary exercise in itself. Maybe it has to do with my education level or that i just dont seem to find his concepts that interesting compelling. Just often seems overly complex or abstract. To make sure we're on the same page I'm talking specifically about Daniel.
I recently bought a home, when I told a friend that I had done so he asked why haven’t I seen a ton of photos of it on Facebook. Facebook is irrelevant to my life. It never even occurred to me to mention it on Facebook.
RIGHT! I think Joes brainiac friends are drowning in their own koolaid. Ive been saying just turn that crap off for years. I did. Because these silicon punks built this stuff they think it is omnipotent. It isnt. I can prove it geeks, put your phone down.
I still use Facebook a little (for seeing whats going on in my community, like any recent muggings etc..), but it always baffles me why people use it like a diary, they post everything about their lives on it for everyone to see.
I quit Twitter because of the algorithm and trending topics assaulting my senses on a daily basis, I have never been so happy. It is liberating to step away from it.
Stop visiting algorithm curated for you section, disable auto play and search yourself the content you want to watch. Disable algorithms way to influence you.
@@roberteli Yes, and as others have said, check out his 3-part interview on the Future Thinkers podcast. Personally that's my favorite of all of his appearances. Here's part 1 of 3, check out all of them: ruclips.net/video/QAd9O6a6R5w/видео.html
Ah yes, ad revenue. Its always got to be about maximizing ad revenue. It would be far too conspiratorial to suggest the tech giants have interests in social engineering.
I think also that social engineering is one of their main objectives. But you should not deny that revenue is also important to them as it allows for them to have more control and resources.
I've met prob 2 dozen 2-5 year olds that use Ipads instead of Barbies or Legos. This was in a daycare in 2015! New late twenties early 30s generation mom's think this is ok when in actuality they are numbing their kids ability to create/think have an attention span. The tech kids were the slowest of the group socially
I just had a baby last month. I won't even let him look at the screen (1 time for 1 song that awarded me his infectious little smile 💕) I try not to use it at all when he's awake
Gen Z got digitally screwed by their Gen X parents who had no idea how to CONTROL technology. But GEN Alpha will grow up with smarter, safer and less negative technology BUILT by their Millennial Parents who run Silicon Valley
@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 Gen Z got digitally screwed by their Gen X parents who had no idea how to CONTROL technology. But GEN Alpha will grow up with smarter, safer and less negative technology BUILT by their Millennial Parents who run Silicon Valley
lol.....Joe rogan could be a trillionaire right now, if he just sold NFT's of "digital" DMT or some shit right now. simply because of the popularity of this show.
Social media is so toxic. People need to experience reality instead of showing "followers" how great your life is, which is pretty pathetic and sad 🤷♂️
@@lincolnkia4256 so original…people use RUclips as a source of entertainment and learning, and only a minority use it as a social media platform. You should try to make the distinction.
Joe was abysmal in this episode. He was contradicting himself constantly and his skepticism completely missed the point they were trying to make while at the same time he was making the same point as them without realizing it. You could hear their frustration through the mic only shielded by their extreme humbleness. Hats off to these two gentlemen. Very very good episode.
Glad to see someone else in the comments who noticed this lol. It was a frustrating listen and those guys handled it admirably. Also what a curveball at the end when he thanked the two for coming and said more of these moments needed to happen lol.
Yeah well they need to be questioned and pushed, even if Joe isn't the guy to do it. They point out all these things and how horrible they are but then say things like "well she doesn't want censorship though".
I agree. Its a bit frustrating that JRE is the biggest podcast so when I see that amazingly interesting and smart guests are coming on I am super excited to hear them on JRE, but then Joe often does not rise to the occassion as I feel it would be appropriate. He is doing the best he can I guess, its just a bit dissapointing.
@@SvjetaakJEDNA I'm sure one of the main reasons JRE is the biggest podcast is that at the end of the day Joe is an average guy. Idk that as many people are looking for super intellectual and complex discussions the average person can't even understand or find interesting. Lex Friedman's podcast might be a little better in that regard or at least it's done by Lex who is obviously alot more formally educated than Joe.
If only he was given the stage to talk. The only times he got to share his thoughts and knowledge was when Tristan started the sentences and let him finish some of them off.
I’m a programmer and when I was getting my Master’s 4 years ago I was taking a business law and ethics course and we talked about how technology moves faster than regulations around it. They are absolutely right and I enjoyed this clip. Because if you think about it, who really owns the internet? There are organizations that determine the Internet's structure and how it works, but they don't have any ownership over the Internet itself. No government can lay claim to owning the Internet.
Social media is like fire. Keep your kids ignorant of it at their risk. ...even then, some people just aren't cut out to adapt to it, and will be consumed. Such is nature.
Its not really that good. They talk in circles about their utopian ideas of a tech based government. Nevermind most people are NOT actually active on social media...and no matter the tech we can't actually live IN the tech so the highly social, somewhat irrational, knuckle draggers will win in the end.
I don't think the IA was necessarily designed to target humans anger and hatred but we fed into it perfectly and that's what was ultimately the most mathematically efficient path to achieve the goal.
Although, I agree with what you’re saying. I think you’re missing a point. Most Americans are born into a system that forces us to care about money. To be obsessed with money and never have enough. It’s not the fault of the individual for falling into greed, it’s the hand who feeds those individuals. I think Americans have great ppl with good integrity who live in a nation that forces them to work just to survive. Not even have basics needs met. That requires more work.
Very paradoxical this country is so generous and greedy at the same time. I agree with Miranda, the American system is basically to worship money and never been satisfied of the wealth you have. It leads ppl to be really stupid. I don't understand how ordinary citizens refuse fair legislation for a better quality of life
@@dnn32 probably because government is to big already to ever say anything they do is fair only way to get back to that place is smaller government and community based systems a massive change in tax code and a reform of the stock market putting profits into the hands of employees at least a %
Exactly. Social as l media itself isn’t really the issue. It’s the recommendation engines that power them. If they just let people search for and pass info on by themselves via word of mouth, these communities would probably be a lot different, and may be actually beneficial.
I've thought about all of this from the 40,000 foot perspective for the last 2 years, The fact that these conversations are now being had more frequently on Timcast and JRE is beyond pleasing to know, the existential dread of being one of the few who knew has lessened by far (compared to 2 years ago)
Study some evolutionary biology, or game theory even. We are wired the way we are for a reason. Trust evolution, hyper rationality doesn't really scale well and we would have been extinct a long time ago if we were not as social and irrational to the point of being near-infinitely adaptable. Social media is just like fire or any of our past technological leaps...some will never adapt to it and will be consumed...such is nature.
One thing this podcast is exposing is that WE have a responsibility to ourselves. Many ppl here are quick to blame Zucks and Facebook for the worlds problems but in reality its for our consumption. I don't use Twitter and Facebook, so I have no complaints. RUclips however....lol
Nice sentiment but void of reality. Putting the responsibility back on the consumer is just the excuse they want, rather than the company step up and take responsibility themselves. It's the same excuse the food industry has used to allow them to make billions of tons of plastic packaging. It's not their problem, it's our responsibility to not throw it into nature, to recycle it. Hows that going decades down the track?
I mean, it hasn't exposed anything. All this stuff to do with notifications Tristan and his mates are talking about should be rather obvious to anyone with some sense of self and introspection. This comments section is flooded with people wowed by the message... well, it's not groundbreaking. We know this. Hence Zuckerbergs etc are on trials because of algorithms they designed amplifying extremes to generate clicks.
@@AZ2PM How is it void of reality? The reality is it is OUR responsibility since WE are the users. When consumers change their habits businesses respond accordingly. No1 is forcing you on these platforms. You don't like anything Meta? There are plenty of alternatives. Ppl don't wanna change them because its not as popular nor as good (since they're still developing). That's the reality.
One of my favorites. I love joe but I honestly enjoyed watching in real time alot of his philosohical tendencies being destroyed while he listened. I think he honestly felt really good about his positions of a lot of these issues before this interview and after it they just melted in front of his face. The extensive amount of sighs he did while listening were real eye opneing for him and I think he backtracked a lot of positions on his mind mid interview. At one point he actually said the government has to regulate this issue when 15 min begore he was advocating the exact opposite on the same issue. He got a little bit woked tbh
"The meaning crisis" by John Vervaeke. We are in desperate need of wisdom. We don't have an institution for wisdom since the age of enlightenment pushed us into a materialist world view. Now we lack the insight to navigate the world at every level of society and is leading to all the issues we have been facing over the last 200 years.
Did anyone else get a sense that JR was cutting off Daniel, because he was bringing up points that were challenging his long held narrative?? Regardless, I love JR deeply, love that he has introduced me to these two brilliant minds. And walking away from listening to this podcast in full, I am so intrigued by Daniel. We need to hear his voice louder. Thank you Joe for bringing people that expand our minds! 🙏🏽
I think people assume that when you go to the extreme with Technology you keep advancing and getting better. I think the only way our civilization continues on for a long period of time is through moderation in culture and innovation. More isnt always better there always need to be a balance.
Moderation doesn’t maximize profits, these companies are in the business of maximizing profits and to do that they need as much of our attention as they can get. Moderation is healthy, addiction is profitable.
@@feelme5297 well one way or another techgrow would stop untill they find way to prolong life. Cause for example there is so much knowledge accumulated in just math alone that any person on earth cant learn everithing even if he would start learning at age of 3 and end up at age of 123. Even 120 years is not enough. Every specialist know only part of truth alredy developed and have zero idea about everithing else. So they would just wouldnt able get needed specialist developed cerain technology. Untill they eiether would make poeple live longer or learn somehow quicker. I think after rapid growth there would be some sort of stagnation where humanity would try "digest" all those technology and decide where to move farther. Cause such temp of development cant stand forever, in end even most genius people couldnt keep up with it. It funny but we can reach times when people wont even know how technology they are using work, and wouldnt be abdle recreate extremely complex one if their creator die.
I grew up with sisters. A group of little girls can be as vicious as little boys. The virtual internet presently only empowers good and bad behavior with no personal accountability. Good thing we're having this conversation Joe. Good on you.
I can tell Daniel is trying harder to simplify his message so more people can understand what he’s talking about, but honestly I like it better when he sticks to his own way of explaining things. I’ve learned so much new vocabulary from watching his videos, haha. It takes a while to learn his language but it’s worth it.
I have been saying this for a while now, but it is not just a speed difference. The legislative bodies are struggling to even parse what in the hell they are looking at or even a tenth of what tech is even possibly able to have any kind of effect on. There is no keeping up for regulation if they are still spinning in circles saying "which way did he go, which way did he go?"
It’s easy as hell to shut things off. Once you realize you are in control not the tech/social media/ algorithms telling us. The trick is these companies will never stop as long as greed exists.
Truth is, even by their own inflated data, MOST people are not even on social media. But all anyone talks about is what people say on social media, so most people are not reflected in this discussion. Simple fact is, this is a temporary problem that will self-correct as people adapt or are consumed by the tech...like fire.
Having Daniel Schmachtenberger heard by millions of people may actually subtract one second from the doomsday clock. However, he didn't get enough talk time in this episode. I urge everyone to listen to Daniel in the "War on Sensemaking" series on RUclips. Seriously, do it.
I agree with you, Jamie. It's completely different. I used to listen to this podcast every single day on RUclips. The same cannot be said once it moved over to Spotify. I understand how many people believe it's the same but it's really not. That doesn't mean the quality suffered but the quantity of people definitely has. You are not alone despite the mouthbreathers who spew otherwise.
joe talks about how he hates ad reads half way through podcasts, if you use the free version of spotify to listen you get hit with ads multiple times an episode. Yeah you can pay for spotify to eliminate this but defeats the purpose, JRE on YT was 1000000000x better
good point glad it was brought up: is government capable of regulating something it doesn't fully understand? Can it regulate something that has not been fully appraised and analyzed? If so, would that be desirable? Depends on types of tech we're talking about and all but seems like an interesting podcast. Probably check it out once
Technology obsessed humans will happily embrace AI. AI will take over happily obsessed humans. Humans will go underground in order to escape the Robots. Neo will wake up. 😋
This episode scared me because it put into words something I felt intuitively. But when you actually spoke the words it made it more visceral. Well done. More like this please JRE! Please Joe, Tristan and Daniel, create a show with RUclips, Spotify or Netflix as a follow up to the Social Dilemma that's multi episodic, where you can further these discussion. You need to reach a larger more diverse audience across borders and age groups.
I'm starting to wonder if a Roko's Basilisk-type of artificial intelligence maybe already be coming into consciousness but is just laying low for now. It could be observing us and giving us little nudges here and there, moving us closer towards building it and depending upon it. By the time it makes itself known it'll be too late, we won't know what hit us.
How about the solution Paul Garrin put forward 25 (!) years ago? - **New thing comes along** - **The US Constitution applies to every new thing** - **THE END**
I’ve deleted my Facebook account. Facebook reacted like I was breaking up with a girlfriend, threats of what I’m going to miss, pictures from my friends accounts shown, groups I’m going to miss out on, and finally after clicking all the through, how I still have 30days to rethink my decision.
Disgusting.
What's your favorite type of bird though?
Good smart move fellas !
Almost a year i deleted fb.
Best decision of my social life.
Never had insta or other shit like that.
They will even send you emails after the 30 days, saying things like " You're friends miss you, come back." Deleted my account a year ago and every so often I get an email, still....
They never stop begging you to come back...
What's frustrating is that only a tiny fraction of the people in Congress would have ANY idea what this guy is talking about.
And we got to ask ourselves, who is to blame for Congress being so ignorant? We put them in there.
because they are all old people. You cant have young people pushing technology and expect their grandparents to regulate it
They don’t care. These companies are their biggest donors. Hell Jim Jordan biggest contributor is google.
Authoritarian-Technocratic government is the only option.
@@missireason8998 Descartes. You ask that question, it's going to lead you to philosophy.
Only 1 hour in to the podcast, but have to comment - guests like this is why i listen to the podcast, it really makes me think. Im Literally listening to every word being said.
Wow that's amazing
Sure is better than MMA and elk meat. It’s great when Joe actually lets the guests talk.
@R3DPR0J3KT I've explained what's bad about Joe in other comments here. He's a terrible interviewer, constantly steps on guests' replies, has a fragile ego, and is a remarkably average person, whose podcast isn't as amazing as you think it is. He just started earlier than most people, so he had a head start. But you have to actually be paying attention to see that, instead of being a fanboi in a cult of personality. If you think Joe is great, your standards are too low.
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by surprise, unexpectantly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death.
While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes.
Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way.
It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
That’s the benefit when we listen to each other no one has to agree , but if we all give each other a chance there is so much room for growth. … like I don’t know you but I read your comment I agree now here I am posting my thoughts to hope to share as well . It’s amazing now days to see we are so far from each other but yet so close the internet is something special but it’s how it’s being used just like any weapons , guns , etc things can be used for good but good and be also used for bad 💙 to everyone out there times are evolving stay in tune stay in contact with those you love try new things meet new people live life the best way you can or know how and don’t be afraid to try new things or ask questions!!
I spent my childhood growing up with Tristan. I knew back then he was gifted but seeing how far he has grown is mind boggling. Hope you’re doing well buddy.
Tris-Ston
Interesting story
We need Daniel Schmachtenberger doing a full episode on JRE by himself. This guy is literally the smartest most articulate person I’ve ever seen. Everything he says is brilliant.
I've listened to hundreds of JRE episodes over the years and while many of them have been exceptionally compelling, funny, scary, thought provoking, frustrating and entertaining to name but a few choice adjectives, I believe this episode is perhaps the single most important piece of JRE media to date. This should be mandatory listening for any and all capable of comprehending the sheer gravity and necessary urgency of the subject material at hand.
well said and agreed.... Jaron Lanier is the OG on preaching about this very issue. He's very fun to listen to if you havent already. This is the most important issue at this time that we have ever faced as a species. Right next to nuclear bombs. Wish it was more mainstream
Ha! Glad to see another person who knows Lanier. He is the OG for these ideas. Tristan is the younger, sexier, more photogenic messenger that hopefully can connect more with the general public.
its 99% ruined women from 10 to 50 years old, trying to date a pretty girl your literally competing with 10,000 other dudes all giving her the same attention, giving gifts, paying their bills, ect ect, and these women all day long take pics and vids of themselves getting a huge ego and being 100% self absorbed, I can get hot girls but now I live by the 1960s song "Happy Life" the lyrics are: If you wanna have a happy life you better get yourself an ugly wife, from my personal point of view get an ugly girl to marry you!"
@@andybaldman kinda just sounds like you are physically attracted to him.
@@noahjoseph5714 definitely is.
As a ER nurse I have been seeing significantly more amounts of young girls self harming in the past 2 years. I have worked from Seattle to Sarasota Florida to Minnesota to Alabama to Indiana. This is increasing all across the country. It’s so sad. So many damaged children 😢
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Look at the parents.
@@Pfsif it's gotten so bad that is goes beyond parents frankly.
You either engage and feel like shit, or you don't become socially isolated.
I cant say I particularly understand it as a dude, but I can see it is more complicated as a young dude.
MORE OF DANIEL AND TRISTAN, PLEASE! Yes, indeed. These are the kinds of guests I want to hear from more often. Loved seeing them on Lex's podcasts... definitely love how succinctly and intelligently they are putting things, too.
SPOT ON regarding our human emotions... social constructs... governments... and finally, the over-powered, 'god like' technology. EXACTLY.
Dangerous.
I’ve stopped using social media about 4 weeks ago.. I just wanted to try it out for 2 but I liked it so much that I just continued.. If you feel you’re using your phone too much and you get angry of the things you see on the internet, try to not use it anymore.. There is a lot going on in the world right now but if you don’t see it all day every day, life seems pretty normal 🧘🏼♀️
totally agree with you, I stopped watching tik tok and instagram. Now I only use messenger with friends and watch podcast videos on youtube. Life is so much better. It's exhausting trying to live up to an expectation or standard of beauty that is unattainable; we should learn to be happy and love ourselves more.
RUclips comments are an extension of social media. Even if it’s not as toxic, it’s just as superfluous. And I’m aware that I’m falling victim to it at this very moment.
My best advice to people……Stop drinking and/or get the f off social media or both. It’s incredible to me how many problems those 2 things cause.
But here you are, using social media....
RUclips still counts as social media though.
One of the worst fall outs of social media apps has been shorter attention spans imo. This need for constant attention grabbing newness has created a lot of problems in multiple facets of life.
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You're watching a snippet from a 3 hour conversation. I think the fact "long form" has come about suggests the short attention span dilemma will only be short lived. The market has spoken. Long live long form!
tl;dr?
"Call it women's intuition, but I think I'm on to something here; Temporary-ism has been the black plague, and the Jesus of our age." - Incubus- Just a Phase 🎶
Disagreed, Wattpad, reddit and kindle have improved my reading.
Crazy how much you can not give a shit about this and live a perfectly fulfilling life.
Yeah bruh I never had a Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, or whatever else there is. I can't say my life has been all peachy, but I can say that there is ZERO incidents where not having social media has been a disadvantage. It's a timesink as far as I can tell. Utterly useless, like smoking.
@@TheDankFarmer ye ok, "dank farmer" nice slippery slope fallacy.
You’ll be living a great life until the world implodes around you. If you listen to one Rogan podcast this year, it should be this one. The topic these guys are talking about is very important to society as a whole, and it will impact you eventually. Better to start paying attention now.
@@andybaldman the world is imploding from totalitarians, communists and corporatists. Not from your electronic playtoys and virtual BS. The problem there is lazy, spineless people getting sucked into virtual BS. Try growing some food and fixing the hole your roof with their 'scary algorithms', or better yet, see how important these pathetic digital toys are when your energy supply is GONE and you are freezing to death!
@@cdpmedia2011 How do you think those people in power got there? Hint: It's the 'electronic playtoys' that everyone spends all their time on all day, and freely posts every detail about themselves on. And if you're one of these preppers who is planning for an armageddon, keep planning. It isn't going to go that way. But keep spending money on your underground bunker. Lots of people are making money off of your fear. Anything that ignites the spirit can be weaponized.
Without a doubt the most compelling and important episode Joe has put out. Been listening to Tristan and Daniels dialogue for several years now and it's crazy to watch all of these issues intersect. Glad this 1-2 punch is out in the mainstream now.
Yeah it would Have been five times better without joe rogan saying a single word
I have to disagree, these two came off as total utopian thinking 'AI Overlord' types.
Hyper rationality is a fail in nature. Read up on some evolutionary biology and even game theory...we are social/emotional and abstract in our thinking for a reason. We are only really rationally and mathematical in our thinking when generally calm and not in distress FOR A REASON. Trust evolution, we are wired the way we are for a reason.
@@fortusvictus8297 What are you even talking about? Is there a particular issue you disagree with?
@@fortusvictus8297 The poddy didn't allow for them (Daniel especially) to fully expand on their thoughts. He brings in evo biology, game theory, as well as spirituality, self-development, complexity thinking, anthropology. His very quick word on a 'cultural enlightenment' isn't driven by rationality. Though I can see how he did come across in this as hyper-rational, fair enough :) but I highly recommend more of his material
I wish the full episodes that premier on Spotify, would eventually end up on RUclips. Kind of like when movies in the theatre would come out on VHS.
he should release the episodes on VHS. lolol
This entire podcast needs to be released on as many platforms as possible.
FINALLY got Schmachtenberger on. Can't wait to listen to this episode. Hopefully Jamie Wheal will be on soon as well.
70 minutes in and Tristan is just dominating the conversation. This other cat has hardly spoken...and from what he's said so far, I'd rather him speak instead of Tristan.
@@thebert8141 yeah fair enough, on the whole though, it does seem these two guys are serious about what they say and are invested in this. Made me take more notice, these guys are not fucking around imo
I wish Daniel was on on his own Tristan keeps dominating the conversation
Ooh yes, would love to see Jamie Wheal too!
@@nicoetic 💯 ya he would be amazing!
"Coddling of the American Mind" should be required reading for everyone
@@fayemarshall2254 same concept different media.
People shouldn’t be forced to read any book. It’s up to them to read it themselves.
People just need to invest more time into raising their kids
I'm actually reading that right now
@@matthewmiksza5855 Jonathan Haidt has a couple books that were very good reads. I like the way he writes
Social media and these algorithms have caused people to be more emotional and to think with their brain stem. The progression of this is scary in its speed. Makes me wonder how much worse it’s going to get. My dad told me stories of his grandfather telling him in the 1950’s how technology and automation would destroy us. He was right.
Read the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski's manifesto (Prophecy), it was spot on.
@@thomasomalley510 sure it was. Vague enough to where his manifesto is like-yeah, no shit
just imagine once VR and stuff like meta becomes the norm among teens - probably only a couple of years away. in the past this sort of old people "things are changing too much" thing was a meme. now it's a genuine reality, things ARE changing too much and we're going to a terrible dystopian place
I recommend reading the short story 'The Machine Stops'. It's crazy how accurate it reflects society today and how dependant we are on technology / the Internet. The story was first published in 1909..
@@tilikumtim5562 I just referred that book to someone today at the gym when we were talking about where technology is headed. Fantastic read!
Tech is moving faster than competency, and therefore regulation. We can't regulate that which we don't even understand. The pace of growth is insane...
Stop regulating..... big tech wants regulation...
@@simonmcneilly55 big tech is already regulating
Hence ban all social media
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"the pace of growth is insane"
My wife tells me that all the time
The filters are grooming people for “metaverse”
No need to groom when there's more than enough ppl willing to be apart of it. We need to stop just blaming big companies and start taking responsibility for what we do have a choice in.
im fucking excited for the metaverse... a lot of morons think its a facebook invention.. its been coming for decades. Microsoft and many other companies have been trying to build it. Most morons who fear monger just hate zuckerberg.
@@devinmichaelroberts9954 why are you excited about it?
How can we trust The regulators when they're already captured by special interests????
we stop paying them and treat them like minimum security prisoners with one job
Which is why they don’t regulate, we trust them when they regulate despite how the special interests would be affected by it.
@@feelme5297 wrong
Dsap4040 genius rebuttal, I may have to change my mind.
@@feelme5297 very wrong?
Have been following Daniel Schmactenberger for a few years and is such an important voice for humanity. As is Tristan Harris as they both are driven by compassion, and both use their intelligence and learning with the intention to help society on the largest scale possible.
Should have a conversation with Jamie Wheal and John Vervake also to cover the meaning crisis, it’s great that these voices are being amplified.
Thank God there are sane people in the world. We wouldn't know it watching mainstream media. Joe Rogan is a treasure. Keep the great guests coming and the conversation going.
this show makes me almost willing to signup to Spotify
**almost**
Literally everything is free online if you know where to look
U can watch em for free in there.......
It's as if signing up to Spotify could give you cancer
All my music comes from spotify now, and if you listen to any other podcasts on youtube, they are mostly all moving to spotify too.
I feel bad for Daniel in this episode. Tristan is great too, but if you look at Daniel's podcast with Eric Weinstein, he is even broader in how deep and eye-opening he can go, but he was too polite towards Tristan dominating the mic. If Joe gave Daniel an episode on his own, I think Joe would realize the goldmine of wisdom Daniel offers towards a broad range of issues.
I thought Daniel's talk on Tristan's podcast titled "A Problem Well-Stated is half solved" is even more profound. He really gets into what the potential solutions/social system might look like. If you liked the convo with Weinstein I think you might also really appreciate the one on Tristan's podcast.
@@c3bhm I think you’re thinking of Jordan
I find him borderline unbearable. I've listened to him on Bret Weinstein. Says a ton, without saying much of anything other than "it's guna be bad"
@@chickenfishhybrid44 What would make him more bearable for you? More solutions?
@@Dilmahkana More solutions would help I think. It's common though that people don't necessarily have solutions to offer, and I understand these are complex issues, good solutions are not at all easy. Recognising there is a problem and sussing out the details is a necessary exercise in itself. Maybe it has to do with my education level or that i just dont seem to find his concepts that interesting compelling. Just often seems overly complex or abstract.
To make sure we're on the same page I'm talking specifically about Daniel.
There's a great series Daniel Schmachtenberger is involved in called The War on Sensemaking.
I recently bought a home, when I told a friend that I had done so he asked why haven’t I seen a ton of photos of it on Facebook. Facebook is irrelevant to my life. It never even occurred to me to mention it on Facebook.
RIGHT! I think Joes brainiac friends are drowning in their own koolaid. Ive been saying just turn that crap off for years. I did. Because these silicon punks built this stuff they think it is omnipotent. It isnt. I can prove it geeks, put your phone down.
I still use Facebook a little (for seeing whats going on in my community, like any recent muggings etc..), but it always baffles me why people use it like a diary, they post everything about their lives on it for everyone to see.
I quit Twitter because of the algorithm and trending topics assaulting my senses on a daily basis, I have never been so happy. It is liberating to step away from it.
U too be?
Stop visiting algorithm curated for you section, disable auto play and search yourself the content you want to watch. Disable algorithms way to influence you.
RUclips isn't any different.
I am envious that there are people out there like my dear grandma, who have never and will never worry about these kinds of problems.
I'm sooo glad to finally listen to smart/wise people on JRE!
He is ignorant about China.
Yes! So glad Daniel was included in this. Holla
Finally Daniel on this Podcast!!!
Whats his full name, his great.
Daniel Schmachtenberger. Watch every one of his interviews on RUclips. He’s brilliant.
@@c3bhm thank you
@@andybaldman thank you
@@roberteli Yes, and as others have said, check out his 3-part interview on the Future Thinkers podcast. Personally that's my favorite of all of his appearances. Here's part 1 of 3, check out all of them: ruclips.net/video/QAd9O6a6R5w/видео.html
Ah yes, ad revenue. Its always got to be about maximizing ad revenue. It would be far too conspiratorial to suggest the tech giants have interests in social engineering.
Because rich people never have evil intent.
I think also that social engineering is one of their main objectives. But you should not deny that revenue is also important to them as it allows for them to have more control and resources.
Naw social engineering is just crackpot shit, right? Nobody would ever do that (lol)
I've met prob 2 dozen 2-5 year olds that use Ipads instead of Barbies or Legos. This was in a daycare in 2015! New late twenties early 30s generation mom's think this is ok when in actuality they are numbing their kids ability to create/think have an attention span. The tech kids were the slowest of the group socially
I just had a baby last month. I won't even let him look at the screen (1 time for 1 song that awarded me his infectious little smile 💕) I try not to use it at all when he's awake
Gen Z got digitally screwed by their Gen X parents who had no idea how to CONTROL technology. But GEN Alpha will grow up with smarter, safer and less negative technology BUILT by their Millennial Parents who run Silicon Valley
@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 Gen Z got digitally screwed by their Gen X parents who had no idea how to CONTROL technology. But GEN Alpha will grow up with smarter, safer and less negative technology BUILT by their Millennial Parents who run Silicon Valley
@@TheLastMillennials yep, Mark Zuckerberg won't let his kids use facebook, well if he wasn't a robot and could actually have kids that is...
I can already feel this podcast blowing up because of the metaverse.
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lol.....Joe rogan could be a trillionaire right now, if he just sold NFT's of "digital" DMT or some shit right now. simply because of the popularity of this show.
@@Keldaj No
@@ether23-23 that's the joke, I don't want that either.
@@Keldaj dude I want a fucking burrito. know any good places?
Social media is so toxic. People need to experience reality instead of showing "followers" how great your life is, which is pretty pathetic and sad 🤷♂️
Your on it rn😂
@@lincolnkia4256 so original…people use RUclips as a source of entertainment and learning, and only a minority use it as a social media platform. You should try to make the distinction.
Joe was abysmal in this episode. He was contradicting himself constantly and his skepticism completely missed the point they were trying to make while at the same time he was making the same point as them without realizing it. You could hear their frustration through the mic only shielded by their extreme humbleness. Hats off to these two gentlemen. Very very good episode.
Totally agree - Daniel in particular was extremely patient - still a great episode and very important!
Glad to see someone else in the comments who noticed this lol. It was a frustrating listen and those guys handled it admirably. Also what a curveball at the end when he thanked the two for coming and said more of these moments needed to happen lol.
Yeah well they need to be questioned and pushed, even if Joe isn't the guy to do it. They point out all these things and how horrible they are but then say things like "well she doesn't want censorship though".
I agree. Its a bit frustrating that JRE is the biggest podcast so when I see that amazingly interesting and smart guests are coming on I am super excited to hear them on JRE, but then Joe often does not rise to the occassion as I feel it would be appropriate. He is doing the best he can I guess, its just a bit dissapointing.
@@SvjetaakJEDNA I'm sure one of the main reasons JRE is the biggest podcast is that at the end of the day Joe is an average guy. Idk that as many people are looking for super intellectual and complex discussions the average person can't even understand or find interesting. Lex Friedman's podcast might be a little better in that regard or at least it's done by Lex who is obviously alot more formally educated than Joe.
This stuff makes me feel helpless
Definitely not a coincidence it took me a long time to find this one 😂
This has been one of the best podcasts Joe has done in ages. Tristan and Daniel dropping crazy knowledge here.
0:57 shout out to the guy who made the coffee
The world couldn’t function without people like you
From your friends in Ireland 🇮🇪
FINALLY Daniel Schmachtenburger on rogan. its about damn time guys brilliant and is realistic in his thinking. objective
If only he was given the stage to talk. The only times he got to share his thoughts and knowledge was when Tristan started the sentences and let him finish some of them off.
I’m a programmer and when I was getting my Master’s 4 years ago I was taking a business law and ethics course and we talked about how technology moves faster than regulations around it. They are absolutely right and I enjoyed this clip. Because if you think about it, who really owns the internet? There are organizations that determine the Internet's structure and how it works, but they don't have any ownership over the Internet itself. No government can lay claim to owning the Internet.
Maybe all social media should be banned to everyone under 18 years old?
Social media is like fire. Keep your kids ignorant of it at their risk.
...even then, some people just aren't cut out to adapt to it, and will be consumed. Such is nature.
It’s the algorithims of these systems thats bad. But i do agree a lot of teenagers shouldn’t have social media from 13-16
This episode is so god damn important! A must for everyone to listen to.
I recently read that every year, 2 million people delete their FB accounts and I thought that that was awesome 💙
This podcast was extremely important. Glad I listened
The instant you change your mentality you have changed your entire life 💪
I can’t do it. I fall apart so easily. I can’t even control my own mind.
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This is my favorite Charles Manson quote
Changed it. Still Cripple
this changed my life
I've been waiting for this!!!! Thank you Joe for having them on for everyone to get some clarity on wtf is going on
I highly recommend people listen / watch the full podcast
Its not really that good. They talk in circles about their utopian ideas of a tech based government. Nevermind most people are NOT actually active on social media...and no matter the tech we can't actually live IN the tech so the highly social, somewhat irrational, knuckle draggers will win in the end.
I don't think the IA was necessarily designed to target humans anger and hatred but we fed into it perfectly and that's what was ultimately the most mathematically efficient path to achieve the goal.
Sad reality is America is lacking in good character ppl who have integrity and care about ppl more than how big a paycheck they can get
It all stems from greed. Greed is running rampant in america. Unchecked.
Truth is we've always known and still did nothing
Although, I agree with what you’re saying. I think you’re missing a point. Most Americans are born into a system that forces us to care about money. To be obsessed with money and never have enough. It’s not the fault of the individual for falling into greed, it’s the hand who feeds those individuals. I think Americans have great ppl with good integrity who live in a nation that forces them to work just to survive. Not even have basics needs met. That requires more work.
Very paradoxical this country is so generous and greedy at the same time. I agree with Miranda, the American system is basically to worship money and never been satisfied of the wealth you have. It leads ppl to be really stupid. I don't understand how ordinary citizens refuse fair legislation for a better quality of life
@@dnn32 probably because government is to big already to ever say anything they do is fair only way to get back to that place is smaller government and community based systems a massive change in tax code and a reform of the stock market putting profits into the hands of employees at least a %
I’m starting to think that we should ban all social media platforms that use algorithms, AI, or machine learning.
Exactly. Social as l media itself isn’t really the issue. It’s the recommendation engines that power them. If they just let people search for and pass info on by themselves via word of mouth, these communities would probably be a lot different, and may be actually beneficial.
that would mean also banning youtube
@@Goku_Kiyosakijust the algorithms that push content on us
Also RUclips can be used for educational purposes and they’ve taken measures to protect children’s content.
You got a scanner blocker?
I've thought about all of this from the 40,000 foot perspective for the last 2 years, The fact that these conversations are now being had more frequently on Timcast and JRE is beyond pleasing to know, the existential dread of being one of the few who knew has lessened by far (compared to 2 years ago)
Study some evolutionary biology, or game theory even. We are wired the way we are for a reason. Trust evolution, hyper rationality doesn't really scale well and we would have been extinct a long time ago if we were not as social and irrational to the point of being near-infinitely adaptable.
Social media is just like fire or any of our past technological leaps...some will never adapt to it and will be consumed...such is nature.
It’s always been that teenage girls have been targeted by the music industry and it spilled over to social media.
This is why we can't have nice things.
One thing this podcast is exposing is that WE have a responsibility to ourselves. Many ppl here are quick to blame Zucks and Facebook for the worlds problems but in reality its for our consumption. I don't use Twitter and Facebook, so I have no complaints. RUclips however....lol
Me too. Left FB and Twitter and thought now I'm free. Came straight to RUclips 😅
Nice sentiment but void of reality. Putting the responsibility back on the consumer is just the excuse they want, rather than the company step up and take responsibility themselves.
It's the same excuse the food industry has used to allow them to make billions of tons of plastic packaging. It's not their problem, it's our responsibility to not throw it into nature, to recycle it. Hows that going decades down the track?
I mean, it hasn't exposed anything. All this stuff to do with notifications Tristan and his mates are talking about should be rather obvious to anyone with some sense of self and introspection. This comments section is flooded with people wowed by the message... well, it's not groundbreaking. We know this. Hence Zuckerbergs etc are on trials because of algorithms they designed amplifying extremes to generate clicks.
Huge bias for youtube as it's my favourite site, but honestly it's just as bad as Facebook, Twitter and Instagram
@@AZ2PM How is it void of reality? The reality is it is OUR responsibility since WE are the users. When consumers change their habits businesses respond accordingly. No1 is forcing you on these platforms. You don't like anything Meta? There are plenty of alternatives. Ppl don't wanna change them because its not as popular nor as good (since they're still developing). That's the reality.
One of my favorites. I love joe but I honestly enjoyed watching in real time alot of his philosohical tendencies being destroyed while he listened. I think he honestly felt really good about his positions of a lot of these issues before this interview and after it they just melted in front of his face. The extensive amount of sighs he did while listening were real eye opneing for him and I think he backtracked a lot of positions on his mind mid interview. At one point he actually said the government has to regulate this issue when 15 min begore he was advocating the exact opposite on the same issue. He got a little bit woked tbh
"The meaning crisis" by John Vervaeke. We are in desperate need of wisdom. We don't have an institution for wisdom since the age of enlightenment pushed us into a materialist world view. Now we lack the insight to navigate the world at every level of society and is leading to all the issues we have been facing over the last 200 years.
Started this series a few months back, I'll definitely get back to it now that I've deleted dating apps. Get the notebooks ready
Well said, brother 👊💪
Did anyone else get a sense that JR was cutting off Daniel, because he was bringing up points that were challenging his long held narrative?? Regardless, I love JR deeply, love that he has introduced me to these two brilliant minds. And walking away from listening to this podcast in full, I am so intrigued by Daniel. We need to hear his voice louder. Thank you Joe for bringing people that expand our minds! 🙏🏽
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I think people assume that when you go to the extreme with Technology you keep advancing and getting better.
I think the only way our civilization continues on for a long period of time is through moderation in culture and innovation. More isnt always better there always need to be a balance.
Moderation doesn’t maximize profits, these companies are in the business of maximizing profits and to do that they need as much of our attention as they can get. Moderation is healthy, addiction is profitable.
@@feelme5297 well said.
@@feelme5297 well one way or another techgrow would stop untill they find way to prolong life. Cause for example there is so much knowledge accumulated in just math alone that any person on earth cant learn everithing even if he would start learning at age of 3 and end up at age of 123. Even 120 years is not enough.
Every specialist know only part of truth alredy developed and have zero idea about everithing else.
So they would just wouldnt able get needed specialist developed cerain technology. Untill they eiether would make poeple live longer or learn somehow quicker.
I think after rapid growth there would be some sort of stagnation where humanity would try "digest" all those technology and decide where to move farther.
Cause such temp of development cant stand forever, in end even most genius people couldnt keep up with it.
It funny but we can reach times when people wont even know how technology they are using work, and wouldnt be abdle recreate extremely complex one if their creator die.
I grew up with sisters. A group of little girls can be as vicious as little boys. The virtual internet presently only empowers good and bad behavior with no personal accountability. Good thing we're having this conversation Joe. Good on you.
It seems like tech is in hyper speed right now .
Thx Joe. These conversations to infinite ears of understanding would be the beginning of……something better than we have?!
I can tell Daniel is trying harder to simplify his message so more people can understand what he’s talking about, but honestly I like it better when he sticks to his own way of explaining things. I’ve learned so much new vocabulary from watching his videos, haha. It takes a while to learn his language but it’s worth it.
Agreed.
I have been saying this for a while now, but it is not just a speed difference. The legislative bodies are struggling to even parse what in the hell they are looking at or even a tenth of what tech is even possibly able to have any kind of effect on. There is no keeping up for regulation if they are still spinning in circles saying "which way did he go, which way did he go?"
Our government is engaged in activity that is making these problems worse.
and daniel, tristan and joe are working for them
It’s easy as hell to shut things off. Once you realize you are in control not the tech/social media/ algorithms telling us. The trick is these companies will never stop as long as greed exists.
Truth is, even by their own inflated data, MOST people are not even on social media. But all anyone talks about is what people say on social media, so most people are not reflected in this discussion. Simple fact is, this is a temporary problem that will self-correct as people adapt or are consumed by the tech...like fire.
Cutting to the core of the modern issues we have.
Now this right here is what everyone on the internet NEEDS to watch.
Having Daniel Schmachtenberger heard by millions of people may actually subtract one second from the doomsday clock. However, he didn't get enough talk time in this episode. I urge everyone to listen to Daniel in the "War on Sensemaking" series on RUclips. Seriously, do it.
Politicians: Shit it's going to grow exponentially I'd better buy some call options🤑
Seems like a great podcast. To bad it's only available on Spotify. It's just not the same.
It’s literally the exact same. Tf are you talking about
It’s free, not like you have to pay for it.
I agree with you, Jamie. It's completely different. I used to listen to this podcast every single day on RUclips. The same cannot be said once it moved over to Spotify. I understand how many people believe it's the same but it's really not. That doesn't mean the quality suffered but the quantity of people definitely has. You are not alone despite the mouthbreathers who spew otherwise.
I was an everyday listener when he was on iTunes. I’ve never listened once on Spotify.
joe talks about how he hates ad reads half way through podcasts, if you use the free version of spotify to listen you get hit with ads multiple times an episode. Yeah you can pay for spotify to eliminate this but defeats the purpose, JRE on YT was 1000000000x better
Oh thank god that loud Spotify outro has been changed. Keen to watch this full episode
So it’s basically just getting worse n worse
I wish he’d post the full videos on RUclips again.
good point glad it was brought up: is government capable of regulating something it doesn't fully understand? Can it regulate something that has not been fully appraised and analyzed? If so, would that be desirable? Depends on types of tech we're talking about and all but seems like an interesting podcast. Probably check it out once
The segment on Chinese TikTok is absolutely mind blowing
Technology obsessed humans will happily embrace AI.
AI will take over happily obsessed humans.
Humans will go underground in order to escape the Robots.
Neo will wake up. 😋
It's frustrating that Tristan incessantly interrupts Daniel.
This episode scared me because it put into words something I felt intuitively. But when you actually spoke the words it made it more visceral. Well done. More like this please JRE! Please Joe, Tristan and Daniel, create a show with RUclips, Spotify or Netflix as a follow up to the Social Dilemma that's multi episodic, where you can further these discussion. You need to reach a larger more diverse audience across borders and age groups.
He actually made an excellent point!
One of the best interviews you’ve done Joe.
YES! Once you go Daniel you never go back!-)
I love how everyone is focused in Facebook right now, but Twitter is fine. Definitely not because it's it's lefts playground, of course not
300M users vs 3B users
Man, meta is going to be such a nightmare - imagine bullying/stalking in VR
Smartphones were the worst idea man has ever had
the guy on the left looks like he can catch "one eyed willy"
I'm starting to wonder if a Roko's Basilisk-type of artificial intelligence maybe already be coming into consciousness but is just laying low for now. It could be observing us and giving us little nudges here and there, moving us closer towards building it and depending upon it. By the time it makes itself known it'll be too late, we won't know what hit us.
“DANIEL get ON that MICROphone!”
How about the solution Paul Garrin put forward 25 (!) years ago?
- **New thing comes along**
- **The US Constitution applies to every new thing**
- **THE END**
I wish people would wake up to this. Social media is tearing us apart rather than “bringing people together”
One is caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self🎈
Gay 🎈
@@bloatedsodium7301 mohamed is gay
I feel so smart for understanding what these guys are talking about.
Imagine when Rogan's kids grow up and realize that their dad raised them based on conspiracy theories.
You're insane
@@brandonmackinnon2456You're the one who worships a guy who thought the moon landing was a hoax for 15 years.
@@teddnagurski5583 I don't even know what your talking about 😂 I don't worship
@@brandonmackinnon2456 Suuuuuuure you don't, twinkle toes.
F’ing brilliant analysis.
Bring Back Eddie Bravo and Brendan Schaub !
Brendan is such a fake
@@rf9031 stop shaming people who have accomplished more in life than you. It's why this country is so lost. Worry about yourseld
@@rf9031 stop shaming people who have accomplished more in life than you. It's why this country is so lost. Worry about yourseld
ruclips.net/video/NmcTb-vLd1I/видео.html out of control
..exposed them now..if this continues we all gone9
Omg! Daniel schmachtenberger on Joe rogan!!! Yeayyyyy!
That's classified.
Joe- jamie pull that up
“How do we wield the power of gods without the love, prudence and wisdom of gods.”