Very well-spoken, and an awesome video overall. Just needed to say one thing that I think is important: Although one may be able to boot, all that indicates is that the IMC and the set voltages are sufficient to achieve some form of signal or communication between CPU and DRAM. It is very unlikely that the max bootable config is even remotely stable, usually, it's a config with significantly adjusted values. Stress testing is absolutely crucial because memory errors will absolutely nuke W10/11 and I can imagine that many people use their PCs for competitive gaming and work tasks. This is definitely a cool feature though.
@@WootDini I didn’t actually know AIDA also did RAM tests. I personally like to use HCI and that’s been able to get me daily profiles; the Pro version is also quite a bit cheaper than AIDA haha. The fact that it managed to get 5000C19 is crazy to me though. What DIMMs were those if I may ask?
This is a great feature - it took me days to dial in my RAM settings on my previous board, so when I upgraded to the X570 Torpedo I thought "here we go again..." I decided to try Memory Try it - with some manual voltages at the SoC - and it booted in straight away. Only a few timings actually matter, so I brought those into line with the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen and booted again. My RAM is 1000% Memtest stable👍🏻
Aweseome video! Thankyou a lot. i havent been able to turn my computer on since yesterday because of this. probably will never turn on again. Thankyou!
Heya Best thing to do if PC is not showing display is unplug the power, hit the on button to drain any excess charge, remove the CMOS battery for a minute or 2, put it back , plug in and turn back on. Should do the trick
I need help fast i did an option which was too high so I couldnt boot windows now my white Light on the motherboard is on but nothing is happening Do i need to wait longer till it turns off and how long does it take?
I'm a bit confused by this. If the advice is to continue up the chart to test better settings then why are the CL ratings not reversed? For instance DDR4 3600 CL16 is faster than DDR4 3600 CL18. Sure the frequency increases are obvious, but with CL rating lower is better, so shouldn't the ratings be reversed as you progress up the chart?
Actually no. You have to loosen the timings in order to have stability and also so it boots. MHz will always trump Cas latency. Once you reach your maximum clock speed on a set voltage like 1.4v you can either increase voltage to clock higher or start tightening down your timings……..primaries / secondaries / thirds / rtl’s and iol’s / etc.
@@techluvin7691 sorry dude, but what you're saying doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I was referencing, unless you actually just don't understand what you're talking about at all, because ddr4 3600 cl16 ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT QUESTION IS FASTER than ddr4 3600 cl18, but in the BIOS under "Memory Try It!" they are swapped as it goes down the list from slow to fast. The CL timings should be reversed on the list as lower CL timings are faster. also you're just flat out wrong saying that "MHz trumps Cas latency". For instance a 3200MHz CL14 is faster than a 3600Mhz CL18 and on avg will return the data about 1.25ns faster.
@@pbjandahighfive Thanks for the kind words………..NOT…………I actually do know what I’m talking about as I’ve been overclocking ram since the XT days. Lower cas latency does not necessarily equate to faster memory. There are a plethora of other important timings to consider. I will always lean towards increased clock speed over lower cas latency.
On DDR5 memory the base CAS latency, I believe, is 36 or 40. So the original reply is correct. The higher your MT/s or MHZ, the higher your CL becomes by necessity. The higher MHZ/MT per second speed trumps the higher CL in most situations.
Hello! I have 2x8gb ballistix 3600 mhz and a b550 motherboard. It has a default value of 2666 mhz and whenever i try changing it to 3600 on the bios and saving it, my computer wont boot! like the monitor, keyboard, mouse turn off but the pc is still on and to get into my pc again i have to reset my bios. any idea why i can’t overclock it?
Could this cause me to get a black screen when I boot it up? It was fine all yesterday and I had done it the day before but today I’m getting a black screen. Do I need to take that lithium battery out?
Yep you are correct But 2 issues. Every motherboard has jbat in different locations, and secondly bridging the wrong connection by accident is a recipe for disaster. Safe option for beginners is to remove CMOS
@@WootDini Except if it hides below the graphics card, where it's located on many boards. How about recommending to check the manual, where it says which jumper to use?
i have msi z390 with i9900k bios.. but my bios menu looks so diffrent from urs.. it looks like u have alot more options.. example i dont have xmp 1 and 2, mime is just called xmp. urs look much more "Updated", and yes my bios is updated
I think im gonna just keep it disabled because every time i change it, well it keeps going black and then display light turns on and just wont turn on. Then i have to unplug and plug back in and it turns on and says it faild. Idk what to do.
You must have a newer am5 board, it happened to me too after doing the basic xmp profile and then rebooted. I had to shut down the system turn off the power switch and unplug. Then I opened my case and on the motherboard I used a standard screwdriver and held it close to the 2 jumper pins (((JOCSF1))MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK after about 10 seconds I released the screwdriver and reconnected my power supply then turned the switch on. Low and behold it booted up and I was able to get into the bios again. The yellow light mean the Ram module,Red is the Cpu,green is the GPU.white means the boot device ( windows ssd) Good Luck...
I have an MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS AM4 AMD motherboard and VULCAN TUF Gaming Alliance DDR4 8x2GB ram with Ryzen 7 3700x processor and Asrock taichi rx 5700 xt oc+ graphics. I have never touched the ram memories because doing so restarts the computer. The only thing I did was adjust the memory voltage to the recommended 1.35v. I see how all the teams overclock the ram memories to 4800mhz, 4122mhz, 3888mhz and I don't know how to do it or I'm doing something wrong. I need help.
Curious, when I run just XMP by default with auto settings, I got 2 errors on Testmem5 with usmus config. And when I run memory try it with same frequency and (slightly)LOWER timings, memory is perfectly stable. Still not very happy with almost zero memory overclock ability of my Tomahawk z690+12400f+g.skiill ripjaws cl30 6000mhz. I presume problem is in first two components...
That is extremely odd. So xmp is giving you fail tests but try it passes? Check the xmp is applying JEDEC settings. MSI has released some really dodgy BIOS updates recently
@@WootDini MtryIt change more voltages than XMP, this might be an answer? XMP is 30-40-40-96,1.35v. Working MTryIt is 30-36-36-77,1.35v. Manual Cl28 does not even start on 6000, as well as any mtryIt(even cl40)on 6200...
Hi, Quick question. If I put the RAM on something it rebooted but turned off immediately and looked dead. I can turn it on but I get no screen whatsoever. I should remove and add the CMOS battery in right?
Thank you for this tutorial. Unfortunately, when I attempted to use Memory Try It, it wouldn't even post after the VERY 1ST attempt. I don't understand why.
I had the same problem but to be fair I went from ddr5-4800 CL40 to 5600 CL36 the first time lol. I'm betting what prevented me was the CL number. Going from 40 to 36 is actually alot. But I should be able to OC to 5600mhz easily at CL40. There just wasn't an option for it. Eventually I'm going to try to just increase the voltage by like 0.1 and go up to 5600mhz CL40 manually.
I'm a little aggravated as I just put a bill together yesterday with the MSI Godlike z590. The BIOS inside of this particular very expensive motherboard does not have any game boost mode for the CPU only the XMP profile 1 and XMP profile 2. Then the other thing is it will NOT read one of my 2 NVME drives. I did my build in 9 hours tinkering and it was 11pm when I finished. I had Windows already installed so that was a non issue of one NVME. I did it prior on my other desktop. I was up ans running but OC and NVME are now on my troubleshooting lists
HELLO WOOTDINI! You are my go to guy for MSI! I recently built my last system with an MSI Z390-A Pro with an Intel Pentium Gold Coffee Lake G5400 Duel Core 3.7Ghz Processor! 1TB M.2 SSD with 64GB DDR4 3200 Ram and a GeForce GTX 1650 Video Card! I use this system for Adobe Video Editing! Besides ticking the XMP & GAME BOOST button with FAN set to Auto, what else can I do to Overclock this system? I was told by MSI after I already bought & installed it that "this is basically a budget gaming board that cannot be manually overclocked? Any advise Would be greatly appreciated!
This was good but you don't actually show how to set the RAM after using try-it. Essentially you only show how to use Try-it and leave the settings on try-it - If that's what you should do that's fine, but that needed to be made clear, because the name Try It implies it's temporary
Could be an issue with your RAM modules themselves. Always do the normal things like update bios etc so you can eliminate all possibilities as faulty ram does exist
hallo my brother the XMP 2 it remains grey , i had one kit of corsairs vengeance 3600 cl18 pro sl 16x2 =32 gb 3600 and bought another one of 2 x16 same brand.with MSI PRO WIFI Z590. BUT I CANT REACH 3600MHZ omg uhh.I M TRYING OW THE TRY IT METHOD.. Also i saw that isnt in the compatibility list of the motherboard but the store said to that it doesnt matter maybe it hasnt tested yet there are hundreds that arent in the list and some are already in..what can i do??Thanksss!!!!
@@WootDini Thank you so very much You are right the one pair is hynix and the other is micron. I have still my guaranty. Also I Followed your instructions and i reach 3600mhz. The technical support of this Store is very good years now, should I take my Tower to them I believe that they will recognize this uncompatibility and to change the one of two pairs or to remove 32gbs to have only 32 but which is better hynix or micron btw 32 isnt bad for nowadays not at all the thing that bothers me is if i will remain with 32gbs it would be stable if they dont change them i'll sacrifice the 32 of 64gbs for my editing programs but are they good enough for photoshop for ex. and my 11600k intel on my Z590 MSI PRO WIFI Board ? Thank you so very much in advance!And sorry for my broken english i tried though🙂🙂 Paul from Greece Athens.You are the one and only you tuber-technical advisor that answered me!!!KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK!
I upgraded my ram to 64gb from 32gb now when i go into bios my xmp profile 2 is grayed out any idea why and how i can fix it please shouls i of turned of xmp before changing ram Ps I'm using MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK WIFI mb
What happens when I get into windows with 4800 Mhz (the last setting for me) on 2400 Mhz sticks Should I run a stability test? Edit:Oh yeah I watch the full video and found my answer
I think i did something wrong at memory try it. I cant open my pc right now i cant get in to windows. How i will fix it help me please. Its just black screen
This happened to me, it happened when I accidentally overclocked my ram 400mhz above it’s rated and that happened. Just boot back to bios and fix it, if it doesn’t work do what the other guy said just clear cmos
This happened to me I made a mistake overclocking too high and my pc bricked so I had to install my os over again lololol I had everything running so perfectly than just because I wanted that extra kick it bricked everything lol I'm only running my ram at like 3400 I think my board won't go any higher 😔
@@WootDini exactly but I kinda forgot that procedure so I kept getting a weird cycle of reboots so I just performed a factory reset and it fixed my problem, the thing is I bought a board that really can't handle major overclocking and I just wanted a board that I didn't need to update any bios, kinda sad I'm on a stock board I just want my PC to run excellent. Any advice??
i'm thinking of buying the MAG B560 TORPEDO motherboard, i've already received the new 4000mhz ram from G.SKILL but i've just noticed that in the official Compatibility Memory website doesn't show this RAM. Will it still work or do I have to buy other memory?
Heya it should but on DDR4 over 3600 is a massive diminishing returns and also it changes gear ratio. But if you have the ram already it should work no issues
What's the difference between the two? Are they both needed for one or another to work or they work separately? First time builder and new to the oc scene.
Hey thanks for the video, very helpful. I have one question, my RAM is supposed to be 3600/cl18 but on the "try it" menu I only see 3600/cl16/cl17 and 3733/cl17. Which one should I use? Thanks in advance.
I'm new to pc building and whenever I try to enable xmp and set the ram frequency to 3200mhz or close to it, my pc is stucked in a boot loop. It won't boot properly unless I stay with the default frequency of 2666mhz. Not sure if I have to update my bios or if this is an issue with the ram I use. I'm using PNY 2x8gb 3200mhz ddr4 ram and MSI B550M mortar motherboard btw.
@@WootDini thank you so much for responding. I have my rams in slots 2 and 4. I'll try to do what you suggested and update my bios. I really appreciate your help. I'll update this comment once I'm done.
Is your ram from the MSI B550M Qualified Vendors List? If it isn't, I don't think XMP can identify it and know what to do with it even if it's good ram. By the way, I have a same motherboard for a future build and I think it's a good choice.
@@robertkubrick3738 QVL list means next to nothing. Why? There is thousands of RAM sticks to test. Do you see thousands of them tested on any motherboard? No. Because of time constraints. They test a few common ones and call it a day. Which leaves 99% untested. Every motherboard 'trains' the memory. Then reads the XMP profile, sets the few timings in it (if you enable XMP, not otherwise) and checks for correct operation. It's fast test, happens at boot time. It doesn't catch everything. So you can boot with unstable RAM. You can't rely on only memory training. Windows will also run on unstable RAM, until it doesn't. You get bluescreens, lockups etc. And your files will get corrupted. Testing RAM stability is extremely important, especially if you overclock it. I don't trust Memtest86 for that. There are others, like HCI Memtest, Testmem5 etc.
@@MrPunkassfuck i am currently in the process of overclocking my Adata XPG D50 using the the MSI B660M MAG Mortar Max. would you be able to suggest which profile you're using in testmem5 and for how would be ideal to run the test my friend?
Heya. You don't generally have to. It's just good practice because xmp will be the "lowest" overclock. Memory scales and you will need a working baseline
I've used the overclock in my MSI 550m VDH option and i've manage to overlock my ram 2x8GB 3200 to 3400 i belive, is it going to be okay if i add 2 more sticks, 4x8GB?
Heya It's more difficult to balance when not kits. It's possible but it would need to be same brand, same wafer , same frequency etc for it to have a chance to work
My motherboard states that it supports ram speeds OC up to 7200 mhz. But it is not stable when I turn on xmp to 7200 mhz.. is this a motherboard problem or a CPU problem? The ram is stable on stock settings at 4800 mhz. Please help thank you.
i have installed 3200 mhz in XMP mode and it boots to windows after like 10 min. my spec are MSI x299 raider 7A94 Motherboard i7-9800x and my mobo supports only 2666, above that its OC mode only.
Hey. Support frequency is more of a suggestion for warranty etc. But taking 10 mins is very long. Have you updated your bios ? 2666 is more the "Intel standard". I would update bios and do standard xmp profile. First boot takes a bit longer but then should be fine
Hey question. So I have DDR5 Corsair platinum dominator 5600mhz C36. I want to overclock it to get the most gains but stable at the same time. There’s no videos yet on it since it’s fairly new. Do you have any recommendations? Thx🤙
@@WootDini dam that’s too bad than should of stayed with ddr4 lol. When I enable xmp I get 5600mhz. I’ve gotten it to go to 6000 but I see no performance gains while gaming.
I made the mistake of getting Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3600 for an MSI B560 and an i511400. I've since found out that 3200 is the preferred speed of that setup. But no matter what I do, it won't accept that speed or any other lower or higher, except 2133), just 3066. Any advice? Maybe I should count my blessings and just stick with that huh! On a side note, holding down the power button for around five seconds bypasses having to unplug the power or remove the battery.
@@WootDini Cheers for replying! I've updated to the most recent patch, I might roll it back a bit if the latest msi bios patch is bugged though. What I meant is, doing what I do, you don't have to reset the CMOS, you just go back into the bios and change it after the hard reset. It's quicker my way :p I've tried XMP (which completely failed to boot) and memory try it and only 2-3 options work. Weirdly, 4000Mhz worked, but it was unstable. To get 3200-3600Mhz to work, it's going to take a lot of configuring and trial and error and tbh, messing around with frequencies, voltages, timings and all the other complicated options is out of my league, I'm concerned I might brick my new PC that I just built! 3066Mhz runs well anyway, maybe one day I might revisit it, but without an in-depth guide for my exact setup, it's not likely to happen anytime soon. We'll see though! Thanks again.
Me and my brother both own this exact motherboard paired with 12400f and crucial ballistix 3600 cl16.So , exactly same hardware but my bro is running in gear1 and mine in gear 2 in xmp settings.when i manually change in gear 1 my pc crashes when i start gaming.Is it silicon lottery goin on ? and if yes ,could i maybe lower the MTs on the ram in order to achieve stable gear 1 ?
I did 3200 cl15 ddr4 and i was able to be okay with it after awhile. I tried upping it then my pc started freezing entirely.. i went back to the exact same one i had and my pc froze again and seems to freeze but doesnt when xmp is disabled.. I dunno what to do now.
@@WootDini well i got the 4400 mhz patriot 8gb ram (32gb in total) and without xmp, it was 2133. I finally managed to get it to work again, idk why it was freezing. Had to reset bios and then try the same "memory try it" for it to work.
First try/time(OC-ing RAM) I got a red light👍 Reset button wouldn't even work. I had to hard off, then I cleared the CMOS [Jbat] all good outcome thank the heavens. I did noticed "memory fail retry" how does that work/function? Should I have tried switching on/off again in the RED led state or did I do the correct procedure? I want to try it again with a RAM timings closer to my XMP, if I dare lol
Heya So try it is meant to try post and then if it's a fail , take you straight back to bios. You meant to do nothing while it's bootcamps, if it got stuck in endless boot you did the eight thing as sometimes it does happen :)
Hi, thanks for this video. It is very useful. I hope you can help me with a question. I have a DDR4 128GB 3600Mhz Kingston Fury Renegade kit with an i9-13900K, the RAM kit has the following XMP profiles: 1 at 3600Mhz and 2 at 3000Mhz. Whenever I use the XMP 1 I can post to W10 but I have random blue screens which doesn't happen with XMP 2. With the mem try it feature the XMP 1 passes but I can't get it to work stable at that frequency when editing videos or playing games. Is there a safe way to configure the RAM frequency to run at the advertised speed (3600Mhz) as I'm running my PC with the RAM kit set at XMP 2 with no crashes so far? Thanks so much in advance for the help.
Heya. Xmp 2 is a much safer preset as it does not push the ram as far as 1 does. If you feel like you are skilled enough, I would recommend checking the jedec standards for that ram kit and manually putting in the timings and frequency. I hardly use xmp or expo because manual timings are far more stable. What you can try do is see if try is had 2 3600 profiles and go for the higher cas latency preset. It's my fault for not putting in the video to stability test the ram on memtest or ycruncher. But even if you do 1 pass on memtest that should indicate if the profile is stable. You can also try 3400 and see if that works?
If I'm using 4 16gb sticks that are single rank, DDR5 and advertised at 5600MHz, is it normal that the system can only handle 4000MHz? When trying my various XMP profiles, I get stuck in the boot loop. I haven't tried Memory Try It yet.
@@WootDini Hey, thanks for your info. Just an update - whilst I didn't have too much time to play around with the system, I did get a stable 4800MHz with better timings than my 4X16gb 5600 Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 sticks are rated for. This was without increasing the voltage at all from baseline. I don't know why the manual OC worked whereas the XMP didn't, but there you go. I may be able to get more out of it by increasing the voltage, but again I haven't tried.
@@iX067replying from my reply account as for some reason it won't allow me to reply in the app. Try update bios, make sure try it is on (allowed) and your Ram is open for overclock
@@wootcomment it's probably that or because of my intel being non k? This just sucks I only wanted to change the ddr speed since my pc supports 3200 (default) but it's at 2667 .
Heya. Did you have a successful post ? If the PC restarts twice when you xmp it generally means the settings did not take. Make sure you have them in slots 2 and 4 and try xmp profile 2. Potentially xmp profile one is not posting. Also ensure your bios is up to date
@@WootDini Yes I updated bios, used profile 2, and my windows does post although it does restart twice and still caps at 2133mhz. I found out that when I only have one ram stick in, it starts up right away and configures and goes straight to 3600 mhz no problem and yes they are both the same ram sticks 2x8gb corsair vengeance LPX ddr4. my specs are ryzen 7 2700x, and MSI MAG tomahawk motherboard (MS-7C91).
What if your ram isn't on the motherboards Qualified Vendor List? I was having a hard time getting some qualified quality ram about 3 years ago so I bought what I could get. The bios was defaulting to 2400 with my 3600 CL18 ram with XMP activated. I finally manually set it to 3200 CL16 18 18 36 basically trial and error because I didn't use a ram calculator. Does Try It! work if XMP isn't enabled?
@@WootDini The ram always worked. It was more of a matter of XMP wouldn't work with it. The Try It! didn't seem to work until I manually set the speed and timings the first time. Until I manually input the speed and timing, the Try It would always revert to 2400. I combined two sets of Timetec ram, single rank 3600 CL18 that I had been running in 2 dfferent computers and it isn't running as good as I'd like. I will just use it at 3200 CL16 18 18 36 as it seems stable. Even 3333 with those timngs at 1.4V gives me artifacts. Of course I'm running 4 single rank sticks of ram now instead of two. So I will just take 32gb quad rank and fairly tight timings and call it a day. It was fairly cheap ram to begin with and this is just my daily driver. I have some good ram around here somewhere for my next build. Thanks for the reply.
@@WootDini I did have to back off of 3200 C16 but I was able to hold 3133 C14 with corresponding tight timings and I'm very happy with it now at 1.37V.
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@@WootDini hey thanks for the reply. yes i already updated the bios. i just got it to run 2933 i wont go higher than that as it might go crashing again
@@WootDini finally got my 2800MHz RAM stable up to 3200 MHz with 1.450 V on the DRAM modules and 10700KF CPU stable @ 4800 MHz in variable auto Mode and it stays stable, cool 'n' quiet after everyday tests, no stresstest
@@WootDini Hi there I have the same problem I have Z590 MSI Pro WiFi motherboard with 64 gigabyte 3.600mhz cl18 vengeance Pro SL and I cannot reach 3.600 megahertz. Now I am crying with the method try it.. So far So good at 3.200 and I keep on also I increase the voltage up to 1.450v. Please tell me your opinion appreciate so very much any advice. Thank you in advance from Athens Greece..
Hi nice video , so i have g.skill trident z5 6000mzh cl36 and in the bios i can oc the ram at the max but should i do it ? ( cause i've done it and all my games crashes randomly don't know if it's because of that or i had to reinstall windows now it's working great so i'm hesitating to oc the ram again ) what's your opinion ? Thanks for the answer .
@@WootDini Thanks for the reply but I figured out what the problem was. One of my sticks was bad. New RAM boots and overclocks to 3200 no problem. Thanks again for the reply!
Thanks, I have 3200mhz ddr4 and I can overclock it to 3600mhz with cpu boost off but when if I turn cpu boost On , windows won't boot and on motherboard(tomahawk max b450) cpu light lit up error. Any suggestions why the AMD cpu boost is breaking my ram overclock. oh and with boost On,I can only overclock ram to 3333
@@WootDini No for the cpu im using the inbuild bios boost function that set to boost to 4200. and don't remember the CAS but my 3200mhz ram was loading windows fine up to 3700mhz but soon as I use the CPU boost function it won't breaks PC at startup
@@WootDini yes I was thinking to manually overclock CPU instead using the inbuild boost feature, temps shouldn't be the problem because computer won't even boot up for temps to cause the error
Hi i don't know if you read this but i have a question(my first language is not engels so i will try to get it right) my setup is i9-10900k msi z590 gaming ede wifi motherboard and i have 2x16 cosair ram rgb 3600mhz cl18 but When i try xmp it craches and i tried diffrent setting but the best i can get is 3200 cl17 but i dont understand the reason why i cant get the 3600mhz out of it i hoop you read it and will give an answear
@@WootDini i have a msi z590 carbon Motherboard and i have 4x 16G ram 3600hz. whenever i turn on xmp my pc wont boot. If you help me fix this im rdy to pay
Hi, thank you for this video tutorial. I have DDR4 8Gx2 RAM and msi B450 board. I'd like to try the memory try it coz it sounds so easy to do but I'm not sure which one to pick. There's two profiles the 2800mhz and 2933mhz but my current speed 2133mhz and i wonder if it will be ablle to go higher than 3000mhz. And also is it necessary to update Bios firmware for the system to work better? My system sometimes get a bluescreen with an error code of Clock Watchdog timeout i wonder if it has something to do with my BIOS.
I had recently blue screen every single day on my mobo B450 while working on A.Premiere . The main issue is Windows 10 Enterprise from 2019 and its last update - end of the service / I just waiting for a bigger and faster SSD and going to reinstall to Win 10 October 2021 which has service by 2026 . Second story was old BIOS , which helped a bit but crucial step forward is to put new stable OS first and update all drivers. I just checked benchmark Win 10vs11 , Windows 10 is the winner . Win 11 is only faster to write/read data around 3-4% , rest of stuff is only good one for android fans interface.
The clock / CMOS battery on my MSi x399 board looks like its hidden under some plastic trim on the board. Would pulling it delete any saved configuration on the board and revert to stock? Got Corsair : CMW16GX4M2C3600C18 sticks in there but theyre not officially suported for threadripper. 2x 8 GB sticks running in dual channel. hesitant to try the try it feature as it loooks really tedious to get to the battery if need be with the massive cpu cooler I got. probably has to disconnet all IO and move the computer somewhere to work on it and remove said cooler. do the thing, reapply thermal paste, hook everything back up and continue trying. The platform is getting old and 1920x wasnt a gaming cpu to begin with though it does fare okay, but I wanted to give it a little boost getting memory sorted to about the best it can be. I hear x399 oficcially suports 2600MHz memory, but a lot of people say they push 3000MHz easy with certain sticks with some tweaks in the bios and even faster 3200MHz seem common. and I think that probably would help A LOT overall. My 3600MHz corsair sticks defaulted to like 1000- 1100-1300MHz or something like that. XMP profile 2 just bluescreens on bootup, XMP 1 boots and runs fine but checking the stick speed in windows theyre not running whatever the xmp said they would, theyre still far below. 1667MHz infact... which is.. well not brilliant. So here I am. Searching for answers. If anyone is running 3000MHz or somewhat faster on a x399 1920/50X Id love to know which exact sticks you got, and what your memory config/setup looks like in the bios in terms of voltages, timings and all that. I havent really tweaked anything else in the bios apart from the smart fan profiles. CPU everything is stock/auto.
I don't know much about voltages so I don't use it. my question is actually actually which is better If i use only memmory try it or if i use memmory try it together with D ram frequency Or is only enable D ram frequency better option for. overclock. My ram is original DDR4 3600mhz is now overclocked to 4000mhz Ram frequency only. sorry maybe you already figured it out in your movie only with english is fucktup my apologies i used google translate
Hi, I found out today that my PC is not stable. while gaming the game suddenly crashes. now use the settings memory try it 4000mhz but is not stable now my question is actually. what is best option of these two memory try to set it to 3800mhz. or set Dram frequency 4000mhz and disable memory try it. because if i choose Dram frequency 4000mhz i have no problem. and one more question should I set Dram timing mode automatic or 100 or 133 thanks in advance for putting in the effort and energy
i managed to use memory-try it to OC my DDR4 3200 to 3600. managed to boot with no issues. but it's not showing 3600 in the DDR speed. still showing DDR Speed 3200.
@WootDini It's an MSI Z690 board. There's no XMP option because I have the base speed of DDR5 RAM. XMP is obviously used to automatically overclock your RAM but since mine is just the base speed of 4800mhz there's no option to turn on XMP for it. I have the XMP icon in the BIOS but it's grayed out.
@WootDini Absolutely. One of these days I'm going to upgrade to a 6000mhz RGB kit. When I built my rig anything faster than 4800mhz was like 50-100% more expensive and even more if it was RGB lol
Heya. So I'm pretty sure I replied here but YT deleted all my comments. So if you need any help, please make a new post so I can pick it up. Soz copy pasting this as I have 1000s of notifications that comments were not replied to.
Very well-spoken, and an awesome video overall. Just needed to say one thing that I think is important: Although one may be able to boot, all that indicates is that the IMC and the set voltages are sufficient to achieve some form of signal or communication between CPU and DRAM. It is very unlikely that the max bootable config is even remotely stable, usually, it's a config with significantly adjusted values. Stress testing is absolutely crucial because memory errors will absolutely nuke W10/11 and I can imagine that many people use their PCs for competitive gaming and work tasks. This is definitely a cool feature though.
@@WootDini I didn’t actually know AIDA also did RAM tests. I personally like to use HCI and that’s been able to get me daily profiles; the Pro version is also quite a bit cheaper than AIDA haha. The fact that it managed to get 5000C19 is crazy to me though. What DIMMs were those if I may ask?
This is a great feature - it took me days to dial in my RAM settings on my previous board, so when I upgraded to the X570 Torpedo I thought "here we go again..."
I decided to try Memory Try it - with some manual voltages at the SoC - and it booted in straight away. Only a few timings actually matter, so I brought those into line with the DRAM Calculator for Ryzen and booted again. My RAM is 1000% Memtest stable👍🏻
Aweseome video! Thankyou a lot. i havent been able to turn my computer on since yesterday because of this. probably will never turn on again. Thankyou!
Heya
Best thing to do if PC is not showing display is unplug the power, hit the on button to drain any excess charge, remove the CMOS battery for a minute or 2, put it back , plug in and turn back on.
Should do the trick
Take that microphone on your shirt, and take a bat to it like the Office Space printer beating scene... LOL, j/k great video!
Lol 🤣 thanks man appreciate it
I need help fast i did an option which was too high so I couldnt boot windows now my white Light on the motherboard is on but nothing is happening Do i need to wait longer till it turns off and how long does it take?
Are you still waiting😂
I'm a bit confused by this. If the advice is to continue up the chart to test better settings then why are the CL ratings not reversed? For instance DDR4 3600 CL16 is faster than DDR4 3600 CL18. Sure the frequency increases are obvious, but with CL rating lower is better, so shouldn't the ratings be reversed as you progress up the chart?
Actually no. You have to loosen the timings in order to have stability and also so it boots. MHz will always trump Cas latency. Once you reach your maximum clock speed on a set voltage like 1.4v you can either increase voltage to clock higher or start tightening down your timings……..primaries / secondaries / thirds / rtl’s and iol’s / etc.
@@techluvin7691 sorry dude, but what you're saying doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I was referencing, unless you actually just don't understand what you're talking about at all, because ddr4 3600 cl16 ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT QUESTION IS FASTER than ddr4 3600 cl18, but in the BIOS under "Memory Try It!" they are swapped as it goes down the list from slow to fast. The CL timings should be reversed on the list as lower CL timings are faster. also you're just flat out wrong saying that "MHz trumps Cas latency". For instance a 3200MHz CL14 is faster than a 3600Mhz CL18 and on avg will return the data about 1.25ns faster.
@@pbjandahighfive Thanks for the kind words………..NOT…………I actually do know what I’m talking about as I’ve been overclocking ram since the XT days. Lower cas latency does not necessarily equate to faster memory. There are a plethora of other important timings to consider. I will always lean towards increased clock speed over lower cas latency.
On DDR5 memory the base CAS latency, I believe, is 36 or 40. So the original reply is correct. The higher your MT/s or MHZ, the higher your CL becomes by necessity. The higher MHZ/MT per second speed trumps the higher CL in most situations.
0:47 You did that on purpose hahaha
If i press try it it comes up stage 1,2,3
Thanks for this video. Quick question…. Do I have to activate XMP first and then enable Memory Try it or the other way? Or it doesn’t matter?
Hello! I have 2x8gb ballistix 3600 mhz and a b550 motherboard. It has a default value of 2666 mhz and whenever i try changing it to 3600 on the bios and saving it, my computer wont boot! like the monitor, keyboard, mouse turn off but the pc is still on and to get into my pc again i have to reset my bios. any idea why i can’t overclock it?
Could this cause me to get a black screen when I boot it up? It was fine all yesterday and I had done it the day before but today I’m getting a black screen. Do I need to take that lithium battery out?
You can bridge a jumper for bios reset, no need to remove the battery.
Yep you are correct
But 2 issues. Every motherboard has jbat in different locations, and secondly bridging the wrong connection by accident is a recipe for disaster.
Safe option for beginners is to remove CMOS
@@WootDini Except if it hides below the graphics card, where it's located on many boards. How about recommending to check the manual, where it says which jumper to use?
i have msi z390 with i9900k bios.. but my bios menu looks so diffrent from urs.. it looks like u have alot more options.. example i dont have xmp 1 and 2, mime is just called xmp. urs look much more "Updated", and yes my bios is updated
I think im gonna just keep it disabled because every time i change it, well it keeps going black and then display light turns on and just wont turn on. Then i have to unplug and plug back in and it turns on and says it faild. Idk what to do.
And my PC is really good so I don't know why it's doing this.
Sounds like your ram is just blocking it. Try and update the bios and if that does not work, your ram just does not want to be overclocked
My pc works just fine after but i have a flashing orange collor on my motherboard
You must have a newer am5 board, it happened to me too after doing the basic xmp profile and then rebooted. I had to shut down the system turn off the power switch and unplug. Then I opened my case and on the motherboard I used a standard screwdriver and held it close to the 2 jumper pins (((JOCSF1))MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK after about 10 seconds I released the screwdriver and reconnected my power supply then turned the switch on. Low and behold it booted up and I was able to get into the bios again. The yellow light mean the Ram module,Red is the Cpu,green is the GPU.white means the boot device ( windows ssd) Good Luck...
I have an MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS AM4 AMD motherboard and VULCAN TUF Gaming Alliance DDR4 8x2GB ram with Ryzen 7 3700x processor and Asrock taichi rx 5700 xt oc+ graphics. I have never touched the ram memories because doing so restarts the computer. The only thing I did was adjust the memory voltage to the recommended 1.35v.
I see how all the teams overclock the ram memories to 4800mhz, 4122mhz, 3888mhz and I don't know how to do it or I'm doing something wrong. I need help.
Great review!
Curious, when I run just XMP by default with auto settings, I got 2 errors on Testmem5 with usmus config. And when I run memory try it with same frequency and (slightly)LOWER timings, memory is perfectly stable. Still not very happy with almost zero memory overclock ability of my Tomahawk z690+12400f+g.skiill ripjaws cl30 6000mhz. I presume problem is in first two components...
That is extremely odd. So xmp is giving you fail tests but try it passes? Check the xmp is applying JEDEC settings. MSI has released some really dodgy BIOS updates recently
@@WootDini MtryIt change more voltages than XMP, this might be an answer? XMP is 30-40-40-96,1.35v. Working MTryIt is 30-36-36-77,1.35v. Manual Cl28 does not even start on 6000, as well as any mtryIt(even cl40)on 6200...
Hi, Quick question. If I put the RAM on something it rebooted but turned off immediately and looked dead. I can turn it on but I get no screen whatsoever. I should remove and add the CMOS battery in right?
Could only get to 3200 from a 3000 kit, with manual settings I was able to get 3600.
Thank you for this tutorial. Unfortunately, when I attempted to use Memory Try It, it wouldn't even post after the VERY 1ST attempt. I don't understand why.
I had the same problem but to be fair I went from ddr5-4800 CL40 to 5600 CL36 the first time lol. I'm betting what prevented me was the CL number. Going from 40 to 36 is actually alot. But I should be able to OC to 5600mhz easily at CL40. There just wasn't an option for it. Eventually I'm going to try to just increase the voltage by like 0.1 and go up to 5600mhz CL40 manually.
I'm a little aggravated as I just put a bill together yesterday with the MSI Godlike z590. The BIOS inside of this particular very expensive motherboard does not have any game boost mode for the CPU only the XMP profile 1 and XMP profile 2. Then the other thing is it will NOT read one of my 2 NVME drives. I did my build in 9 hours tinkering and it was 11pm when I finished. I had Windows already installed so that was a non issue of one NVME. I did it prior on my other desktop. I was up ans running but OC and NVME are now on my troubleshooting lists
HELLO WOOTDINI! You are my go to guy for MSI! I recently built my last system with an MSI Z390-A Pro with an Intel Pentium Gold Coffee Lake G5400 Duel Core 3.7Ghz Processor! 1TB M.2 SSD with 64GB DDR4 3200 Ram and a GeForce GTX 1650 Video Card! I use this system for Adobe Video Editing! Besides ticking the XMP & GAME BOOST button with FAN set to Auto, what else can I do to Overclock this system? I was told by MSI after I already bought & installed it that "this is basically a budget gaming board that cannot be manually overclocked? Any advise Would be greatly appreciated!
Hi I have a ryzen 5600x 32gb(4x8) 3200hmz cl6 I would like to increase it to 3600mhz could you provide an easy way to do this?
Did you get a reply?. Showing I did not reply which is odd. Switched account to brand so I'm hoping it did not delete my replies 😕
I'm unable to click on XMP profile to begin with
Hey. Is it greyed out ? Have you got clockable ram ?
Very nice.. thanks!
I am now partially blind due to you using light mode in Windows, instead of dark mode. Ty. ;)
😅😅😂😂😂😂 Ty for that. Had a horrible day and that comment just perked me up
@@WootDini Well, I hope the rest of your day is better. :)
This was good but you don't actually show how to set the RAM after using try-it. Essentially you only show how to use Try-it and leave the settings on try-it - If that's what you should do that's fine, but that needed to be made clear, because the name Try It implies it's temporary
I would get a memory overclocked failed unless I turn off the XMP
Could be an issue with your RAM modules themselves. Always do the normal things like update bios etc so you can eliminate all possibilities as faulty ram does exist
hallo my brother the XMP 2 it remains grey , i had one kit of corsairs vengeance 3600 cl18 pro sl 16x2 =32 gb 3600 and bought another one of 2 x16 same brand.with MSI PRO WIFI Z590. BUT I CANT REACH 3600MHZ omg uhh.I M TRYING OW THE TRY IT METHOD.. Also i saw that isnt in the compatibility list of the motherboard but the store said to that it doesnt matter maybe it hasnt tested yet there are hundreds that arent in the list and some are already in..what can i do??Thanksss!!!!
@@WootDini Thank you so very much You are right the one pair is hynix and the other is micron. I have still my guaranty. Also I Followed your instructions and i reach 3600mhz. The technical support of this Store is very good years now, should I take my Tower to them I believe that they will recognize this uncompatibility and to change the one of two pairs or to remove 32gbs to have only 32 but which is better hynix or micron btw 32 isnt bad for nowadays not at all the thing that bothers me is if i will remain with 32gbs it would be stable if they dont change them i'll sacrifice the 32 of 64gbs for my editing programs but are they good enough for photoshop for ex. and my 11600k intel on my Z590 MSI PRO WIFI Board ? Thank you so very much in advance!And sorry for my broken english i tried though🙂🙂 Paul from Greece Athens.You are the one and only you tuber-technical advisor that answered me!!!KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC WORK!
@@WootDini Thanks for all brother!I appreciate so much 🙏 bb!
Fix mine by turning on "Memory try it!" In the Bios.
U did fix? all ok?
I upgraded my ram to 64gb from 32gb now when i go into bios my xmp profile 2 is grayed out any idea why and how i can fix it please shouls i of turned of xmp before changing ram Ps I'm using MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK WIFI mb
is there a problem running memory try it with xmp off?
It won’t let me press on an xmp profile
@@WootDini ye
@@WootDini my pc is new as well etc 3060 ti i5 11400f 16gb ram
@@WootDini can u help ??
@@WootDini how do you update bios ??
@@WootDini thx a lot
What happens when I get into windows with 4800 Mhz (the last setting for me) on 2400 Mhz sticks
Should I run a stability test?
Edit:Oh yeah I watch the full video and found my answer
@@WootDini it did post but it overheat(I think) So I put it to 2933 and it is more stable than 2400 or 2133
I made my 32gb go cl14 3600mhz like it was the Gspot for my mobo
I think i did something wrong at memory try it. I cant open my pc right now i cant get in to windows. How i will fix it help me please. Its just black screen
Clear cmos
This happened to me, it happened when I accidentally overclocked my ram 400mhz above it’s rated and that happened. Just boot back to bios and fix it, if it doesn’t work do what the other guy said just clear cmos
This happened to me I made a mistake overclocking too high and my pc bricked so I had to install my os over again lololol I had everything running so perfectly than just because I wanted that extra kick it bricked everything lol I'm only running my ram at like 3400 I think my board won't go any higher 😔
@@WootDini exactly but I kinda forgot that procedure so I kept getting a weird cycle of reboots so I just performed a factory reset and it fixed my problem, the thing is I bought a board that really can't handle major overclocking and I just wanted a board that I didn't need to update any bios, kinda sad I'm on a stock board I just want my PC to run excellent. Any advice??
So now there is Even more gears besides one and 2 would it be safe to push the gears up one by one on my 12th gen intel i7?
My MSI bios looks nothing like that.
MSI GL73 8RD laptop
I can't find 38-38-38-78 (Team T-Force DELTA RGB DDR5 6000MHz EXPO 32Gb (2 x 16GB). On my msi motherboard.
@@WootDini in bios ( try memory) .
i'm thinking of buying the MAG B560 TORPEDO motherboard, i've already received the new 4000mhz ram from G.SKILL but i've just noticed that in the official Compatibility Memory website doesn't show this RAM.
Will it still work or do I have to buy other memory?
Heya it should but on DDR4 over 3600 is a massive diminishing returns and also it changes gear ratio.
But if you have the ram already it should work no issues
Thanks
I made the mistake of buying corsair vengeance rgp pro 3600 cl18 and no matter what i do , i cant get it to overclock.
@@WootDini msi mag x570s tomahawk max wifi
After trying a setting, my pc starts but no display, monitor led just blinks? What should I do? I cannot remove the cmos battery im a noob :(
@@WootDini I have a MSI X570 motherboard, do I have a cmos clear or reset option or something besides removing cmos battery?
@@WootDini MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI is the exact model. Thank you for your answers btw
When using "Try It". Should XMP be Enabled, Disabled or does it not matter?
What's the difference between the two? Are they both needed for one or another to work or they work separately? First time builder and new to the oc scene.
Hey thanks for the video, very helpful. I have one question, my RAM is supposed to be 3600/cl18 but on the "try it" menu I only see 3600/cl16/cl17 and 3733/cl17. Which one should I use? Thanks in advance.
@@WootDini thank you very much!
I'm new to pc building and whenever I try to enable xmp and set the ram frequency to 3200mhz or close to it, my pc is stucked in a boot loop. It won't boot properly unless I stay with the default frequency of 2666mhz. Not sure if I have to update my bios or if this is an issue with the ram I use. I'm using PNY 2x8gb 3200mhz ddr4 ram and MSI B550M mortar motherboard btw.
@@WootDini thank you so much for responding. I have my rams in slots 2 and 4. I'll try to do what you suggested and update my bios. I really appreciate your help. I'll update this comment once I'm done.
Is your ram from the MSI B550M Qualified Vendors List? If it isn't, I don't think XMP can identify it and know what to do with it even if it's good ram. By the way, I have a same motherboard for a future build and I think it's a good choice.
@@robertkubrick3738 QVL list means next to nothing. Why? There is thousands of RAM sticks to test. Do you see thousands of them tested on any motherboard? No. Because of time constraints. They test a few common ones and call it a day. Which leaves 99% untested.
Every motherboard 'trains' the memory. Then reads the XMP profile, sets the few timings in it (if you enable XMP, not otherwise) and checks for correct operation. It's fast test, happens at boot time. It doesn't catch everything. So you can boot with unstable RAM. You can't rely on only memory training. Windows will also run on unstable RAM, until it doesn't. You get bluescreens, lockups etc. And your files will get corrupted. Testing RAM stability is extremely important, especially if you overclock it. I don't trust Memtest86 for that. There are others, like HCI Memtest, Testmem5 etc.
@@MrPunkassfuck I'm not going to ask how you got your name.
@@MrPunkassfuck i am currently in the process of overclocking my Adata XPG D50 using the the MSI B660M MAG Mortar Max. would you be able to suggest which profile you're using in testmem5 and for how would be ideal to run the test my friend?
Why do you need to enable XMP if you are just going to use memory try it?
Heya. You don't generally have to. It's just good practice because xmp will be the "lowest" overclock. Memory scales and you will need a working baseline
I've used the overclock in my MSI 550m VDH option and i've manage to overlock my ram 2x8GB 3200 to 3400 i belive, is it going to be okay if i add 2 more sticks, 4x8GB?
Heya
It's more difficult to balance when not kits. It's possible but it would need to be same brand, same wafer , same frequency etc for it to have a chance to work
My motherboard states that it supports ram speeds OC up to 7200 mhz. But it is not stable when I turn on xmp to 7200 mhz.. is this a motherboard problem or a CPU problem? The ram is stable on stock settings at 4800 mhz. Please help thank you.
@@WootDini MSI Z790 EDGE DDR5 WIFI, intel i9 13900k, G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 7200 (PC5 57600) Desktop Memory Model F5-7200J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK
@@WootDini I updated the bios but i am using the memory try it function in the MSI bios. Even 6600 mhz is not stable..
i have installed 3200 mhz in XMP mode and it boots to windows after like 10 min. my spec are MSI x299 raider 7A94 Motherboard i7-9800x and my mobo supports only 2666, above that its OC mode only.
Hey. Support frequency is more of a suggestion for warranty etc. But taking 10 mins is very long. Have you updated your bios ?
2666 is more the "Intel standard".
I would update bios and do standard xmp profile. First boot takes a bit longer but then should be fine
Hey question. So I have DDR5 Corsair platinum dominator 5600mhz C36. I want to overclock it to get the most gains but stable at the same time. There’s no videos yet on it since it’s fairly new. Do you have any recommendations? Thx🤙
@@WootDini dam that’s too bad than should of stayed with ddr4 lol. When I enable xmp I get 5600mhz. I’ve gotten it to go to 6000 but I see no performance gains while gaming.
I made the mistake of getting Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3600 for an MSI B560 and an i511400. I've since found out that 3200 is the preferred speed of that setup. But no matter what I do, it won't accept that speed or any other lower or higher, except 2133), just 3066. Any advice? Maybe I should count my blessings and just stick with that huh!
On a side note, holding down the power button for around five seconds bypasses having to unplug the power or remove the battery.
@@WootDini Cheers for replying!
I've updated to the most recent patch, I might roll it back a bit if the latest msi bios patch is bugged though.
What I meant is, doing what I do, you don't have to reset the CMOS, you just go back into the bios and change it after the hard reset. It's quicker my way :p
I've tried XMP (which completely failed to boot) and memory try it and only 2-3 options work. Weirdly, 4000Mhz worked, but it was unstable.
To get 3200-3600Mhz to work, it's going to take a lot of configuring and trial and error and tbh, messing around with frequencies, voltages, timings and all the other complicated options is out of my league, I'm concerned I might brick my new PC that I just built!
3066Mhz runs well anyway, maybe one day I might revisit it, but without an in-depth guide for my exact setup, it's not likely to happen anytime soon. We'll see though!
Thanks again.
Most welcome. Showing I did not reply which is odd. Switched account to brand so I'm hoping it did not delete my replies 😕
Me and my brother both own this exact motherboard paired with 12400f and crucial ballistix 3600 cl16.So , exactly same hardware but my bro is running in gear1 and mine in gear 2 in xmp settings.when i manually change in gear 1 my pc crashes when i start gaming.Is it silicon lottery goin on ? and if yes ,could i maybe lower the MTs on the ram in order to achieve stable gear 1 ?
@@WootDini did 3400 on gear 1,works fine.
I did 3200 cl15 ddr4 and i was able to be okay with it after awhile. I tried upping it then my pc started freezing entirely.. i went back to the exact same one i had and my pc froze again and seems to freeze but doesnt when xmp is disabled.. I dunno what to do now.
@@WootDini well i got the 4400 mhz patriot 8gb ram (32gb in total) and without xmp, it was 2133. I finally managed to get it to work again, idk why it was freezing. Had to reset bios and then try the same "memory try it" for it to work.
@@WootDini Seems so. I'd like to go higher than the 3200, but afraid of it messing up my computer in some way. lol
First try/time(OC-ing RAM) I got a red light👍 Reset button wouldn't even work. I had to hard off, then I cleared the CMOS [Jbat] all good outcome thank the heavens. I did noticed "memory fail retry" how does that work/function? Should I have tried switching on/off again in the RED led state or did I do the correct procedure? I want to try it again with a RAM timings closer to my XMP, if I dare lol
Heya
So try it is meant to try post and then if it's a fail , take you straight back to bios. You meant to do nothing while it's bootcamps, if it got stuck in endless boot you did the eight thing as sometimes it does happen :)
Cheers man - kudos - I will try-it again@@WootDini
Hi, thanks for this video. It is very useful. I hope you can help me with a question. I have a DDR4 128GB 3600Mhz Kingston Fury Renegade kit with an i9-13900K, the RAM kit has the following XMP profiles: 1 at 3600Mhz and 2 at 3000Mhz. Whenever I use the XMP 1 I can post to W10 but I have random blue screens which doesn't happen with XMP 2. With the mem try it feature the XMP 1 passes but I can't get it to work stable at that frequency when editing videos or playing games.
Is there a safe way to configure the RAM frequency to run at the advertised speed (3600Mhz) as I'm running my PC with the RAM kit set at XMP 2 with no crashes so far?
Thanks so much in advance for the help.
Heya.
Xmp 2 is a much safer preset as it does not push the ram as far as 1 does.
If you feel like you are skilled enough, I would recommend checking the jedec standards for that ram kit and manually putting in the timings and frequency. I hardly use xmp or expo because manual timings are far more stable.
What you can try do is see if try is had 2 3600 profiles and go for the higher cas latency preset.
It's my fault for not putting in the video to stability test the ram on memtest or ycruncher. But even if you do 1 pass on memtest that should indicate if the profile is stable.
You can also try 3400 and see if that works?
@@WootDini thanks so very much for the quick response. I will try it as soon as I'm free from work.
If I'm using 4 16gb sticks that are single rank, DDR5 and advertised at 5600MHz, is it normal that the system can only handle 4000MHz? When trying my various XMP profiles, I get stuck in the boot loop. I haven't tried Memory Try It yet.
@@WootDini Hey, thanks for your info. Just an update - whilst I didn't have too much time to play around with the system, I did get a stable 4800MHz with better timings than my 4X16gb 5600 Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 sticks are rated for. This was without increasing the voltage at all from baseline. I don't know why the manual OC worked whereas the XMP didn't, but there you go. I may be able to get more out of it by increasing the voltage, but again I haven't tried.
Damn, my ram couldn’t go over its set speed well it couldn’t even be at the set speed. Had to just go back to auto
Unfortunately ram is one of the most hormonal components. They vary from stick to stick. It can be a lottery
I dont have the oc tab. What's the reason for it?
There is a basic tab and an advanced. You enter with F7 (I think it's F7)
@@WootDini I've also done that.
@@iX067replying from my reply account as for some reason it won't allow me to reply in the app.
Try update bios, make sure try it is on (allowed) and your Ram is open for overclock
@@iX067 replied
@@wootcomment it's probably that or because of my intel being non k? This just sucks I only wanted to change the ddr speed since my pc supports 3200 (default) but it's at 2667 .
Whenever I enable XMP and set it to 3600 mhz or lower, it just doesnt display anything new in task manager that the mhz went up
It stays at 2133
Heya. Did you have a successful post ? If the PC restarts twice when you xmp it generally means the settings did not take.
Make sure you have them in slots 2 and 4 and try xmp profile 2. Potentially xmp profile one is not posting. Also ensure your bios is up to date
@@WootDini Yes I updated bios, used profile 2, and my windows does post although it does restart twice and still caps at 2133mhz. I found out that when I only have one ram stick in, it starts up right away and configures and goes straight to 3600 mhz no problem and yes they are both the same ram sticks 2x8gb corsair vengeance LPX ddr4. my specs are ryzen 7 2700x, and MSI MAG tomahawk motherboard (MS-7C91).
@@trizzedy9999 heya
Did you buy them as a kit or as 2 seperate DIMMs?
@@trizzedy9999 i think I replied on my other account. I think I asked if it was 2 single dimms hey?>
What if your ram isn't on the motherboards Qualified Vendor List? I was having a hard time getting some qualified quality ram about 3 years ago so I bought what I could get. The bios was defaulting to 2400 with my 3600 CL18 ram with XMP activated. I finally manually set it to 3200 CL16 18 18 36 basically trial and error because I didn't use a ram calculator. Does Try It! work if XMP isn't enabled?
@@WootDini The ram always worked. It was more of a matter of XMP wouldn't work with it. The Try It! didn't seem to work until I manually set the speed and timings the first time. Until I manually input the speed and timing, the Try It would always revert to 2400. I combined two sets of Timetec ram, single rank 3600 CL18 that I had been running in 2 dfferent computers and it isn't running as good as I'd like. I will just use it at 3200 CL16 18 18 36 as it seems stable. Even 3333 with those timngs at 1.4V gives me artifacts. Of course I'm running 4 single rank sticks of ram now instead of two. So I will just take 32gb quad rank and fairly tight timings and call it a day. It was fairly cheap ram to begin with and this is just my daily driver. I have some good ram around here somewhere for my next build. Thanks for the reply.
@@WootDini I did have to back off of 3200 C16 but I was able to hold 3133 C14 with corresponding tight timings and I'm very happy with it now at 1.37V.
Heya. So I'm pretty sure I replied here but YT deleted all my comments. So if you need any help, please make a new post so I can pick it up. Soz copy pasting this as I have 1000s of notifications that comments were not replied to.
I have a msi b450pro vdh max and ryzen 5 4650g partnered with 2x8 3200mhz but it runs on 2666 default. What settings should i pick?
@@WootDini i tried both xmp 1 and 2 but it keeps restaring so i disabled xmp.
@@WootDini hey thanks for the reply. yes i already updated the bios. i just got it to run 2933 i wont go higher than that as it might go crashing again
@@WootDini yes i put them in slot 2 and 4 and no they're not a kit. i just got two of the same ram individually
What's the difference between xmp & memory try it
@WootDini I dont see it
I wonder that no stress test is needed
@@WootDini finally got my 2800MHz RAM stable up to 3200 MHz with 1.450 V on the DRAM modules and 10700KF CPU stable @ 4800 MHz in variable auto Mode and it stays stable, cool 'n' quiet after everyday tests, no stresstest
I have corsair vengeance 3600 mhz 2 8 stick kit and msi mag b660m and i7-12700f and i am having a problem at 3600 mhz
@@WootDini Hi there I have the same problem I have Z590 MSI Pro WiFi motherboard with 64 gigabyte 3.600mhz cl18 vengeance Pro SL and I cannot reach 3.600 megahertz. Now I am crying with the method try it.. So far So good at 3.200 and I keep on also I increase the voltage up to 1.450v. Please tell me your opinion appreciate so very much any advice. Thank you in advance from Athens Greece..
@@WootDini yeah
Hi nice video , so i have g.skill trident z5 6000mzh cl36 and in the bios i can oc the ram at the max but should i do it ? ( cause i've done it and all my games crashes randomly don't know if it's because of that or i had to reinstall windows now it's working great so i'm hesitating to oc the ram again ) what's your opinion ? Thanks for the answer .
@@WootDini Thanks for your answer and your time sir :)
Most welcome. Showing I did not reply which I'm sure I did :(
@@WootDini Yes aha you did reply !
I can’t get any of the memory try it speeds and timing to boot. MSI B350 Mate mobo
@@WootDini Thanks for the reply but I figured out what the problem was. One of my sticks was bad. New RAM boots and overclocks to 3200 no problem. Thanks again for the reply!
@@WootDini Will do. Thanks!
@@WootDini what does mean 'bootable drive'? Windows in pendrive?
When using memory try it do you disable xmp?
@@WootDini thanks! I've been running it off and seems to work well. Up to 4600 ddr4
For me 4000mhz doesn’t work but 3933mhz does
Nobody shows you how to get to that menu
Thanks, I have 3200mhz ddr4 and I can overclock it to 3600mhz with cpu boost off but when if I turn cpu boost On , windows won't boot and on motherboard(tomahawk max b450) cpu light lit up error. Any suggestions why the AMD cpu boost is breaking my ram overclock. oh and with boost On,I can only overclock ram to 3333
@@WootDini hyper x predator 2×8gb,not sure what you mean by parameters but I'm just using AMD 3600 and with boost ar 42.00
@@WootDini No for the cpu im using the inbuild bios boost function that set to boost to 4200. and don't remember the CAS but my 3200mhz ram was loading windows fine up to 3700mhz but soon as I use the CPU boost function it won't breaks PC at startup
@@WootDini yes I was thinking to manually overclock CPU instead using the inbuild boost feature, temps shouldn't be the problem because computer won't even boot up for temps to cause the error
Did you get a reply?. Showing I did not reply which is odd. Switched account to brand so I'm hoping it did not delete my replies 😕
@@WootDini Not sure but I ended up buying 5800x3d and now no need to overclock ram anymore. Thanks for getting back to me though lol
5200mhz on ddr4 sticks here......no chance for ddr5 :)
thats impressive :) well done!
Hi i don't know if you read this but i have a question(my first language is not engels so i will try to get it right) my setup is i9-10900k msi z590 gaming ede wifi motherboard and i have 2x16 cosair ram rgb 3600mhz cl18 but
When i try xmp it craches and i tried diffrent setting but the best i can get is 3200 cl17 but i dont understand the reason why i cant get the 3600mhz out of it i hoop you read it and will give an answear
Yea i bought it in a kit but i will update my bios and tey agean tomprrow i will update you thx agean for ansering me
Also i have them in slot 2 and 4 exacly what the motherboard ask and i cant have a gear 1 or 2
im trying it out as we speak i think i have the bios updatet in a minuut so i will check then
I really need you help. How can i connect you ?
@@WootDini i have a msi z590 carbon Motherboard and i have 4x 16G ram 3600hz. whenever i turn on xmp my pc wont boot. If you help me fix this im rdy to pay
Hi, thank you for this video tutorial. I have DDR4 8Gx2 RAM and msi B450 board. I'd like to try the memory try it coz it sounds so easy to do but I'm not sure which one to pick. There's two profiles the 2800mhz and 2933mhz but my current speed 2133mhz and i wonder if it will be ablle to go higher than 3000mhz. And also is it necessary to update Bios firmware for the system to work better? My system sometimes get a bluescreen with an error code of Clock Watchdog timeout i wonder if it has something to do with my BIOS.
@@WootDini Thank you.
I had recently blue screen every single day on my mobo B450 while working on A.Premiere . The main issue is Windows 10 Enterprise from 2019 and its last update - end of the service / I just waiting for a bigger and faster SSD and going to reinstall to Win 10 October 2021 which has service by 2026 . Second story was old BIOS , which helped a bit but crucial step forward is to put new stable OS first and update all drivers. I just checked benchmark Win 10vs11 , Windows 10 is the winner . Win 11 is only faster to write/read data around 3-4% , rest of stuff is only good one for android fans interface.
The clock / CMOS battery on my MSi x399 board looks like its hidden under some plastic trim on the board.
Would pulling it delete any saved configuration on the board and revert to stock?
Got Corsair : CMW16GX4M2C3600C18 sticks in there but theyre not officially suported for threadripper.
2x 8 GB sticks running in dual channel.
hesitant to try the try it feature as it loooks really tedious to get to the battery if need be with the massive cpu cooler I got. probably has to disconnet all IO and move the computer somewhere to work on it and remove said cooler. do the thing, reapply thermal paste, hook everything back up and continue trying.
The platform is getting old and 1920x wasnt a gaming cpu to begin with though it does fare okay, but I wanted to give it a little boost getting memory sorted to about the best it can be.
I hear x399 oficcially suports 2600MHz memory, but a lot of people say they push 3000MHz easy with certain sticks with some tweaks in the bios and even faster 3200MHz seem common. and I think that probably would help A LOT overall.
My 3600MHz corsair sticks defaulted to like 1000- 1100-1300MHz or something like that. XMP profile 2 just bluescreens on bootup, XMP 1 boots and runs fine but checking the stick speed in windows theyre not running whatever the xmp said they would, theyre still far below. 1667MHz infact... which is.. well not brilliant.
So here I am.
Searching for answers.
If anyone is running 3000MHz or somewhat faster on a x399 1920/50X Id love to know which exact sticks you got, and what your memory config/setup looks like in the bios in terms of voltages, timings and all that.
I havent really tweaked anything else in the bios apart from the smart fan profiles. CPU everything is stock/auto.
I don't know much about voltages so I don't use it. my question is actually
actually which is better If i use only memmory try it or if i use memmory try it together with D ram frequency
Or is only enable D ram frequency better option for. overclock. My ram is original DDR4 3600mhz is now overclocked to 4000mhz Ram frequency only.
sorry maybe you already figured it out in your movie only with english is fucktup my apologies i used google translate
@@WootDini thank you mine frend
i tried try it didn't get the volyages just started a game. 4000mhz works just fine so far.
Hi, I found out today that my PC is not stable. while gaming the game suddenly crashes. now use the settings memory try it 4000mhz but is not stable now my question is actually. what is best option of these two memory try to set it to 3800mhz. or set Dram frequency 4000mhz and disable memory try it. because if i choose Dram frequency 4000mhz i have no problem. and one more question should I set Dram timing mode automatic or 100 or 133 thanks in advance for putting in the effort and energy
I jeep getting blue screen
Sounds like you may have some bad silicon. Not all ram can do it. It's silicon lottery sometimes. Rather just xmp
i managed to use memory-try it to OC my DDR4 3200 to 3600. managed to boot with no issues. but it's not showing 3600 in the DDR speed. still showing DDR Speed 3200.
This video made me more confused.
Earlier I was atleast getting a display now everything is off.. wtf
I tried Try It and couldn't even get my corsair ddr5-4800 up to 5600 😂
@WootDini I CANT 😭😂 4800mhz is the base speed so there's no option for XMP
@WootDini It's an MSI Z690 board. There's no XMP option because I have the base speed of DDR5 RAM. XMP is obviously used to automatically overclock your RAM but since mine is just the base speed of 4800mhz there's no option to turn on XMP for it. I have the XMP icon in the BIOS but it's grayed out.
@WootDini Absolutely. One of these days I'm going to upgrade to a 6000mhz RGB kit. When I built my rig anything faster than 4800mhz was like 50-100% more expensive and even more if it was RGB lol
@WootDini In the US at least, RGB only adds like $5 to the cost of a kit now. The price on faster kits has definitely become more affordable.
My bios is different from this. Guess this is outdated
Heya. So I'm pretty sure I replied here but YT deleted all my comments. So if you need any help, please make a new post so I can pick it up. Soz copy pasting this as I have 1000s of notifications that comments were not replied to.
Stick to the task, not interested in submitting or documentation. Otherwise, ok I guess.
Appreciate it the feedback but the video was literally done for the competition that happened
No windows for me. I use Linux btw
Where are the Americans?
@@WootDini seems like most of those videos are from people outside the US.
@@WootDini yeah.
This is bad ! Very bad :(
@@WootDini 👍🤣