Her intelligence is breathtaking, isn't it! I watch any video that I see her in, as she gives me new insight and facts at each turn. I will be getting her book the next time I'm in a bookshop.
Helen is indeed an intelligent woman and quite brave to dedicate her life in the way she has. It is important to say however that it doesn't require a formidable intelligence or a mastery of logic to distinguish between the facts and lies of gender ideology. The difficulty is understanding how these ideals came to be so deeply embedded in our institutions that it now requires bravery to tell such basic truths.
That last child is going to grow up and realize only ONE person in his life ever tried to protect him and that was the person who was cut off from him. It's horrific.
This is so obvious it hurts. On Reddit FtM a young woman asked the group a couple of days ago what to do - she said she loves her mother, but her mother occasionally “midgenders“ her. She received a series of responses, all saying the same thing: “dump her”, “get rid of her”, “cease contact”.😢
I'm the person in our family who sees the naked emperor. In a family of 3 others who buy in to the gender woo lock, stock and barrel. It's devastating and I'm just trying to stay connected so I can be there when he comes around and realizes he's a boy and that's a wonderful thing.
@@collyernicholasjohn few days ago I was permabanned from Reddit (no warning, nothing) for stating that trans men cannot have periods and endometriosis nor experience menstrual pains due to not having ovaries and uteruses. This was flagged as the worst and the most severe hate speech that requires the harshest punishment. They allow hate speech against Jew and calls for their genocide and similar, but god forbid you state biological facts. I'm doing a PhD in medical physics and stuff about male/female biology is stated in my texbooks. In postgraduate studies. Related to medicine. Those people are crazy and demented.
It should be common sense that children are too young can't understand the implications of these kind of life altering decisions. It's extremely rare that a female will be given an hysterectomy before the age of 25 because their brain has not fully matured yet and they may change their mind as they mature and want biological children. It's the reason we have laws in place to protect children from sexual exploitation etc.. If an underage child consents to having sex with an adult it's still against the law because they just aren't old enough to truly understand what they are consenting to or the harm it will cause or the psychological impact. Children with gender dysphoria rarely have that by themselves. They also tend to have a lot of other psychological disorders such as eating disorders, autism, depression and often a history of self-harm threats or attempts at suicide. There's a high rate of comorbid psychiatric conditions. cognitive maturity does not occur until the mid-20s and minds change before the age of cognitive maturity and especially if an individual has an autism spectrum condition or some other situation that might delay uh brain maturity that age of maturity might even be later Most gender dysphoria resolves. If you a give a pre-pubescence or teenager puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones it essentially halts the development of that adolescent on multiple levels.. physiologically, socially, perhaps intellectually. Your halting the natural process of development. So let's say you start a kid at age 14, two years later you're essentially still dealing with a 14-year old. All of their peers have advanced and having more complex interactions and they're going through puberty. They're experiencing all the things that occur during puberty and that process seems to resolve most gender dysphoria. You are halting the process that actually leads to resolution. If you're halting a child's development how are they supposed to decide? Kids who go on cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers have a high likelihood of it causing permanent infertility, problems with brain structure( for males in particular testosterone is very important for normal male brain development) increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit to red blood cells and cardiovascular health Puberty adolescence is the time for maximum bone density development During puberty humans put on more than 50 percent of the bone density so there's circuitry falls in bone mineral density and increased risk of things like osteoporosis. Puberty is arguably and the most significant developmental time for a human in terms of physical and psychosocial development and sexual maturity.. A person essentially figures out who they are and how they fit into being a human. It's the transition from childhood to adulthood. It couldn't be more important in terms of an individual's long-term physical and mental health. If you halt that process the child will have a lack of socio sexual development and sexual development as a whole. It will affect their ability to have sexual gratification and orgasm, essentially immature genitalia. A micro penis. There was a transwoman called Brianna who's 22, who transitioned young on an interview the other day who said doctors told her they could make her exactly like a biological female with a vagina just like one. She now has no sex drive and unable to have intercourse. There is differences between men and women on biochemical and cellular levels. That's why so many trans people have negative health complications from taking cross hormones at the levels that isn't what their body is built for. Every single cell of our body that has a nucleus has either an X X or an X Y chromosome in it and each cell behaves according to its complement of sex chromosomes independently of hormones. There's a host of biological and sex specific differences. It's not like we're all made up of ambivalent cells who will respond simply according to the bath of hormone that you put them in, The way that our DNA expresses itself is also sex dependent in terms of what genes are turned on and turned off. if you take a male or female hormone and put it into the opposite gender physiology at access levels it should be no surprise bad things are going to happen. For example. a woman who takes testosterone is at a much higher increase and risk of heart disease. A man who takes estrogen , after about five years or so his risk of developing blood clots and strokes are two to three times the rate of women and men not taking test estrogen. X X and X Y cells are different and they respond differently to hormones. An adult who is aware of the risks can understand fully but still make an informed decision, a child cannot. We know there are only two sexes in humans because there are only two possible sex cells (sperm or egg). No one can produce both. Human males are those whose sexual anatomy is organized around the production (and delivery) of sperm. Human females are those whose sexual anatomy is organized around the production of eggs. There are no other possible sex cells in existence. The sex of an organism is defined and identified by the way in which it is organized for sexual reproduction. Natural organization is the defining feature of an organism,. The various parts … are organized to cooperatively interact for the welfare of the entity as a whole. they are all characterized by the integrated function of parts for the sake of the whole. Male and female organisms have different parts that are functionally integrated for the sake of their whole, and for the sake of a larger whole-their sexual union and reproduction. Our sexual organization begins with our DNA and development in the womb, and that sex differences manifest themselves in many bodily systems and organs, all the way down to the molecular level. Our physical organization for one of two functions in reproduction shapes us organically, from the beginning of life, at every level of our being. Cosmetic surgery and cross-sex hormones can’t change us into the opposite sex. They can affect appearances. They can stunt or damage some outward expressions of our reproductive organization. But they can’t transform it. There can’t turn us from one sex into the other.
When Helen read the part where there was 2 parents that have degrees in gender studies (5:54), then that told me that those parents are Trans activists. Gender Studies is clearly a useless degree. You may as well get a degree in the study of Unicorn Genders, especially since it would be just as useful. Look when these Non Binary and Gender Fluid individuals can change their gender identity from day to day, as well as change their pronouns whenever they want. Then those individuals are detrimental to any society. Especially when those individuals in the UK can have someone charge, or fined for not using a Non Binary or Gender Fluid individuals pronouns du jour. When any individual is allowed to change their pronouns with the wind, then that automatically introduces anarchy and chaos to any society, period.
If my 6 year old asked me when he could have his pee pee cut off, I’d be quizzing anyone who’d been on their own with him because a child wanting to cut his penis off is a HUGE red flag for abuse.
Some of this sounds like emotional parentification and adultification. The child is being treated like an adult too early, and the parents are using them as confidants.
@@connor5669 Nah. Biology dictates your sex. Being or becoming the other sex isn't something you can "feel" about yourself. Thinking you are the other sex is just that: a false belief that is dangerous to reinforce... If you "feel" like a woman, that's not you being an actual woman, that's you thinking you are what your idea of a woman is (often a caricatural projection/image of it). Women can act, dress and do everything seen as conventionally "male", that still doesn't make them men, they're still women; you could qualify them as masculine etc. and that's fine. Same for men. So for a man to say he "feels like a woman" doesn't even make any sense, whatever he feels isn't a woman's feeling, it's a man's feeling of what he thinks a woman feels like. There's no bypassing biology. Sex is a truth present down to every cell. The most that should be recognized are possible (very rare) cases of gender dysphoria, and even for that, transitioning has no solid scientific evidence to support that it helps. On an anecdotal scale it may help some (even then, often only from the initial euphoria from such radical changes), it still should never be done on minors, especially given the large percentage of those that grow out of these beliefs (shouldn't even be done before ~25 but that's their choice at least). Most of the current trans "movement" stems from that social contagion/neo-religion aspect, and very few of them legitimately even experience gender dysphoria (the actual DSM disorder), but rather fall into these beliefs like people join/are born into religions... Implanting these beliefs in vulnerable minds should be a crime, especially when those people are often gay but end up believing they're the other sex and get sterilized for it... disgusting cult behavior.
Helen said that a lot of these passages felt very "American" to her. I agree. It makes me wonder if this is just the most extreme manifestation the "my child is perfect" parenting. That recent attitude toward your children is indeed very American IMO. Also, I think this craze is an offshoot of hyper-individualism, which is ironic coming from the people who claim they hate individualism.
You're right. It's hyperindividualism in which children are treated like ahistoric, all-knowing beings. But what I find interesting is that these parents aren't exactly leaving it all up to their children. As Helen said, these parents wouldnt accept it if the child asserted they are black if they're not. So while this seems like parents are taking a hands off approach, they really aren't. They've just narrowed which identities are acceptable. For them, changing gender is ok. Other aspects of identity (e.g., race, ethnicity, age, disability) are off limits. What's strange is if gender is socially constructed, surely race is. None of it makes logical sense. But it's a social shift. It's similar to other times in history, like the Salem Witch events, in which society completely believed a group of young girls and chaos ensued. The trans fad is different in content today but the process is the same as it always was.
Helen has literally zero expertise in the matter, and she does not consider even the remote possibility that trans identity is a natural feature of human psychology
They often use sentence: “Living as my true self.” But your true self would be living as you really are - a boy who loves make up and doing hair, for example. Hiding behind the opposite sex is running from your true self.
No, lmao. Living your true self means being accepting the parts of yourself that you cannot control. You can't force yourself not to be trans, it's not how it works
perhaps there should be condemnation of those that shame such boys liking things like make up, or "girly" clothes or hair, maybe that would curtail some of the trans issues we face today.
"Both my husband and I have a background in social justice education....and even with two degrees in gender studies between us..." No kidding! 😂 Made me laugh out loud.
My older son developed an addiction to marijuana at age 14. "Let the child lead?" No. I flushed it down the toilet and he graduated high school, went to college, got highest marks in some semesters.
When my daughter announced a transgender identity at age 13 in 2017, I wanted to learn and the first book I read was "the Transgender Teen" by Stephanie Brill. The book left me more confused. The fact that I could never understand what being transgender meant even after trying really hard, led me to realize it was all nonsense. If only Helen's book and others like the excellent, "When Kids Say They're Trans" by Sasha Ayad, Lisa Marchiano and Stella O'Malley existed in 2017, I would have been better equipped to understand the situation earlier on. I figured it out on my own soon enough and so did my daughter 4 years later!
@helenspielbauer644 There is science behind gender identity. The reason you're not aware of the science is because have nevervresearched it and you only listened to influncers who agree with you.
I was a tomboy, spent some time wanting to be a dog when i was very young. Now im a gender nonconforming bisexual woman..im so grateful my parents just let me be. Just because i dont wear makeup, heels or have womanly interests doesn't make me a male.
You are not “gender non-conforming”. You are a woman. Period. Your hobbies or interests or tastes in clothes etc can by definition be neither male nor female. The terms male and female refer to biological reality, not your subjective fashion preferences or present intellectual interests. The fact that you are also same sex attracted is also secondary and honestly utterly irrelevant to anyone except whoever you chose as a life partner.
"What if your child said they were a fish. Would you throw them in the ocean?" God protect this woman at all cost because she is not only a genius, but she's also hilarious. She's beyond frustrated, and I get it. The narcissism here in America is at another level thanks to TT and other social media platforms. It's the compelled speech that terrifies me.
If you think the U.S. has lost its collective mind, look north to Canada. (Tranada). Women are now defined by our Supreme Court as “anyone who identifies as one”. Women sex based rights are gone. Parental rights are gone. Child grooming by men cosplaying as women is allowed in all government institutions and workplaces, including kindergarten and public schools. Canadians speaking out against the sterilization of children or women who speak out against having men in the washrooms, showers, prisons, sports or rape shelters can face criminal charges for “hate speech”.
Yeah, the poor kids are being completely "Jackanoried" by the very adults who are supposed to be the responsible ones. But these "adults" are too busy wanting to avoid having to set proper boundaries because it might make them unpopular with their offspring for a while. Yet that's what authentic parenting is. For sure, a kind approach is needed when it comes to discussing, explaining, and maybe re-explaining many times, but it's not kind to just give in.
Just because a child doesn’t conform to the gender stereotypes of their era or culture, it doesn’t mean they should transition into the opposite sex. When I was six, I wanted to be boy. I wore my hair short, hated wearing dresses or playing with dolls and called myself Gary,(after the school bully). When I saw the Cecil B DeMille movie “Samson and Delilah” I grew my hair as long as possible and renamed myself after my biblical hero, hoping to acquire his strength. What I was actually rebelling against was how women and girls were always portrayed as weak and helpless, and in need of rescuing. Boys toys were more intelligent than girls toys and their clothing was usually more comfortable. Thank goodness this was back in the 1970’s - today they probably would put me under the knife and pump me full of hormones ! Thank goodness my parents saw this as phase I was going through - no gender affirming care needed.
That line from Joyce, "Who are these people that need their children for validation?" 👏 Parenting is so much easier when you let your kids raise themselves....
Niceness and politeness and agreeableness is going to kill our societies on very many levels... These parents do not have the strength or the intelligence to tell their children the truth..
Exactly. As a 90s kid, there were certainly gender non-conforming kids, but I don't recall anyone being suic**al over it or demanding pronoun or legal changes. Kids seemed more resilient then.
I believe the current thinking would be something like, "They were always there but society wouldn't acknowledge them, and now in our greater wisdom we can allow them to be who they really are." In my view it's a rationalization for what is in reality a social contagion. Have there always been people who didn't feel comfortable with their birth sex? Sure, a few. But as many as now? The likelihood of that is exceedingly low.
trans(vestites) actually existed thousands years ago, too, they were usually involved in religions, rituals, shamanism, and viewed as "3rd sex, special people" etc. But their number was tiny, and those were mostly men who lacked "typical masculinity" and could easily cross-dress. Nowadays everything skewed so much(
Can anyone listen to this without thinking of dewy-eyed cultists of some other stripe? It is exactly the same language, thrown onto a different subject.
One of the great psychological questions I'd like to see studied is what actually is going on with these parents of "trans children". Something is seriously going on there. Surely a mix of motives and dysfunctions but also surely there's a theme.
I'm 71 and I still working on who my true self is. My 84 year old friend says: "oh, you're so young" lol. It's the parent's job to teach them they're a boy or girl. To support them if they have physical or mental developmental issues. To support them whatever their sexuality is (heterosexual or LGB). To keep their body healthy and as it was born physically, with minimal interventions until they are adults.
Are these accounts even true? There are two possibilities. (1) The authors have made up these case studies. (2) The parents of these children used their own children as pawns to express their own transgender or "queer" ideologies. This is the exact equivalent of parents forcing their kids to be of a certain religion.)... The written or transcribed expressions of both the kids and parents are too perfectly in tune with transgender ideology to be believable. The kids express themselves as if they are quoting academic texts. The parents express themselves as if they are quoting academic texts. The book ('The Transgender Child') itself seems like a vehicle for the expression of certain queer ideologies, rather than a representation of genuine case studies.
@@littlecatfeet9064 There's lots of stuff on how "stars" seem to have more non-binary and transgender children than the general population. However, I made a mistake about Charlize Theron, who only has one. Google this article: 'TV stars Carrie and David Grant reflect on ‘beautiful’ moment their child came out as trans'. "TV stars Carrie and David Grant have revealed that three of their children are trans or non-binary, and admitted that understanding their identities took a lot of 'little conversations'."
Got to say that the story of the lad who identified as a train for a while was very beautiful. You could have a lot of fun with him around that. The difference between him and trans kids is no processes of development were cut off nor were body parts.
For the first two years of his life my son run around with a toy pushchair and dolls in it, my hubby was a little worried and I told him if he was still doing it at 12 then it was something to be worried about. He was then obsessed with trains, he run round the house huffing and puffing just like a steam train including the woo woo whistles. He wore a Thomas the tank outfit for years sometimes even sleeping in it, eventually he moved on from being train mad into transformers and spent hours yet again using and developing his imagination playing with them. Like all children if they are left to develop while being loved and supported they move on until they grow up. He’s now an apprentice engineer, all that freedom to play, learn and be inquisitive on how things work had led him to a career he enjoys and is interested in. Above all he’s a kind, empathetic compassionate critical thinking man, he believes they are out of order and need to leave the kids alone to be innocent kids.
I once shared an office space with a nice woman, her 5y old boy had two personalities, on some days he declared he was "girls name" and asked to wear skirts on others he was just him. His mom and dad (divorced) played along, sometimes asked him how his girl persona was but just sat back and watched. In pre school / kinder garten it petered out somewhat, she told me that the kids were ok in the group, did not taunt him, have not seen her for a while, last time she and her son -looking healthy and well - just walked by and greeted me, glad they handled it well (in Europe, Switzerland)
And last, the rending pain of re-enactment Of all that you have done, and been; the shame Of things ill done and done to others' harm Which once you took for exercise of virtue.
Helen Joyce the voice of sanity in a sea of madness (as portrayed in the book) she was asked to read from .... Those parents in the book are totally messed-up sadistic crazies.
If I wrote in a book that "when I saw my dog eating a fish, I realized that in truth it is a cat", then cat lovers AND dog lovers AND animal lovers AND eco-activists would EAT ME ALIVE.
1:55 When I was a young boy, probably about 4 or 5 I was Donald Duck. I insisted on being called by this name, I maintained that it was me in the Disney cartoons, and was strongly attached to this identity. Thankfully I grew out of this and have a relatively firm grasp on biological reality.
My younger sister, now 20 years old, insisted she was a boy when she was four, five years old. My parents let her dress the way she wanted and made no fuss about it. But they also didn’t lie to her. She studies mathematics now and is happy and healthy.
I was told I needed jaw surgery as a child to avoid TMJ, my parents trusted the surgeons and doctors and got the surgery. Im now left with no sensation in the entirety of my mouth and still have TMJ. Cutters want to cut. Doctors are not something to trust indefinitely. it's all a business after all.
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 temporomandibular joint, it's where your jaw slots into your skull. OP hasn't expanded on what condition the doctors thought was presenting or potentially presenting, however it's usually a dysfunction of some sort that is best remedied with physical therapies, so I agree with the point. Cutters want to cut and should not be blindly trusted.
The infamous low-budget filmmaker Ed Wood was heterosexual, but inclined to transvestitism. It turns out that his parents really wanted to have a girl child, but when they had a boy, they would dress him in girl's clothes to compensate for his not being a girl. So Ed learned to associate wearing female's clothing with being loved, affirmed and appreciated, which is why he continued to do it in adulthood. I can't help but wonder, then, how many cases of transsexuality represent a similar family dynamic, just to a far greater extreme.
that's so true! Children are very much into surprising adults and making them happy. My youngest niece (3y.o.) whom I accidentally called "a sweet kitten", started meowing and jumping on her 4 limbs right away. While it was funny and everyone was amused, it reminded me a similar story on the tV about a boy who wanted to be a girl because his parents wanted a daughter. It's so important to show children that they are the best and loved ...
Thank god for Helen Joyce, I’m gay, and have known trans women since the 80’s. There was no delusion then, they were accepted in our small city for being loving people, not for who they demanded to be seen as. One dressed as a girl sine childhood, his mother encouraged it, after the age of 30 the transgender stopped. If he had what’s available today his life would be in a miserable state, irreversible damage would have been done. How can a child comprehend the consequences of their medical decisions, they would eat cereal every meal if they could thinking it was the best thing in the world how could it be wrong. They shouldn’t be deciding medical decisions, has the world gone mad.
Fortunately: the more "training" a person has, the more terrible their decisions. Most people (ordinary people, that is) make perfectly fine parents: their DNA has had at least 600 million years of experience.
Does anybody have a link to a clip of the scene she's talking about, where the psychos refuse to tell a child that he/she will never be able to get pregnant since he/she is a male?
I am in my 70s now. A Grumpy old man. As a child I was a "Train", A soldier, A footballer, A racing driver, I can go on. The shear stupidity of Trans supporting parents is amazing. Oh by the way, I nearly drowned in my local swimming pool because as a12 yr old I thought I could swim and dived in. I was dragged out of the pool by a couple of blokes thankfully and am still here today.
I think one of the reasons I love listening to Helen so much is that she strikes the right balance between "this is silly lol" and "wow that's genuinely fucked up" but in a nuanced, well-spoken way.
When I was in highschool, I was told I was a girl and that i wanted to be a girl by my bullies because I like wearing jewelry and I listened to Brittany Spears. These behaviors made me a girl because that's "not what boys do". Today, we are told we are supposed to agree with this line of thinking or else we are transphobic. Count me out.
As a child one of my favourite games was to pretend I was a horse!! Thank God I grew up in the 70s so nobody thought I was trying to identify as a horse.
My mother teaches pre-school and many of the boys love to play in dresses. Years onward they are always well developed older boys. There is some studies that say feminine dress and play correlates with homosexuality but the rest are the typical "normal" adult. The thing is if 30 years ago they took the girls who played with "boy" toys and dressed as such, they would trans an entire generation. Growing up in the 90's "girls rule" era is girls could do anything boys can plus more. Naturally girls do tend organically go towards playing "house" and liking dolls. This is without gender roles. However my young daughter I will raise offering any toys and see what she likes for preference not for gender. It is scary having a young child with this insanity. You have to wonder how the parents were raised. If they look at their childhood of some type of trauma they do not want to recreate, or are just that brainwashed by activists. Either way they should not be parents. By the way MANY times I wanted to be a boy through childhood. Boys have responsibility, wealth, and things I wanted. I did not want to have to wait for some sucker to ask me to prom and decide to marry me. I also often wondered what I would look like as a boy. I never thought I was transgender ever. I am a normal woman thank god, I would make a pretty ugly boy.
Common sense and true understanding of child development....parents are moulding their children in their ideology but cannot see it....scary especially as these poor children will grow up with more issues than if left to develop as most of us do with our children.
Love this! Thanks! I think this phenomenon of “validating” their precious child is the mirror image of thinking their child is “mentally ill,” “ADHD,” etc. And the so called validation from “clinicians” is hilarious and deeply ironic. These “mental health professionals” used to say homosexuals were “sick.” Until they weren’t.
Re: Helen's "Train boy". Anyone else going all Freudian on this? Was it a very quick labour? On a more serious note; we all have bits we designate male and female - but that's psychological associations and moves from the personal to the social. We' can gestalt (for the want of a better word) these parts as a dialectic, and move from each position - that's fluidity; and a way we can explain our experiential selves to ourself and others - as in "I feel"! This is part of adult agency. We can relate to 'others' and 'objects', as representatives in part, but not become them; we relate to them. Gender, which get specific and very real at puberty, brings in the physical reality and innate social responsibilities of adult life, and integrations of emotions and the emotional self. Imo, modern media is playing it's part as a distorted mirror, and awareness of image and self are up for the propagandist. The non-binary movement is part promissory fantasy; and a flight from the body and it's social negotiations, awkwardness, emotions and messy fluids. I was trying put things simply; but I am yet to learn that skill as I write. Simply, Helen is spot on! Parents are to live out their frustrations and grief through their children or/and avert from anxieties they hold, which the children experience (and play out?): tradition satire is lost. This time the stakes are higher than just status, career, money satisfactions, either personal or social, and there are echoes of the 'Conscious Evolution', which fed into the Eugenics movement........... 'By 'science', 'we' can change our destiny for a better future'; that's the eugenics line! But, culture isn't the thoroughbred race horse we like to to be; more like a heavy horse ploughing the same field. This time, 'science' and cosmetic surgery stand upright, as the ghost of eugenics is re-invoked, and Mary Shelly's ghost returns to haunt us. Carl Young and many more, must be restless in their graves. No wonder the 'nons' want to rewrite everything to reflect their imaginings.
A very sane and logical woman…well said and thank you….lol😂 (and also 😭 at the ridiculous book..just seems to be the end of society when grown parents have such disgusting ideas about their own children…God help them…)
"Things ill-done and done to others' harm, That once you took for exercise of virtue: Then fools' approval stings and honour stains" TS Eliot And tragically, some of these kids are going to turn round later and blame their parents for NOT standing in their way........
About 12 yrs ago, the UK education system adopted 😢 American philosophy of child led learning. I taught in a 40 place state school nursery. We had 3 staff and were expected to follow each child's interests and incorporate all aspects of the curriculum this way. Not surprisingly key education milestones were not met and then Ofsted etc were assessed that standards were plummeting but ridiculously blamed staff NOT what the education department had stupidly ordered Children need and look to the guidance of sensible adults. Not those that are insecure about life and themselves. I've met so many parents who are so scared of saying no to their child in case they get upset. Great interview with a sensible adult. I suppose my point is that once you the adults are allowing children to lead you in a way that you know is ultimately going to harm them or prevent them from developing, then that becomes neglect and potentially abuse. If scientists hadn't invented hormone blockers or Dr's doing genital surgery what would have been said to these children then? This has only started becoming a thing because the medical world has made it so. Young children in America are ASKED what they identify as BEFORE they say anything. My daughter went to work in a summer camp for girls aged 8-16 and she was told to ask each child what they identified as. From the UK she was horrified. This gives children the idea that they have a choice and then how do they choose? Do they base themselves against stereotypes or that they like mummy more than daddy because they're kind and like the smell of her perfume? This is so seriously messed up, my heart breaks for these children. Of course the craziness is filtering around the world which is frightening.
Kids being trains is the most British thing I've ever heard in my life. I'm in Israel and I don't think any child here has ever considered being a train, ever.
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this woman is absolutely invincible. true essence of intelligence and critical thinking.
Her intelligence is breathtaking, isn't it! I watch any video that I see her in, as she gives me new insight and facts at each turn. I will be getting her book the next time I'm in a bookshop.
Helen is indeed an intelligent woman and quite brave to dedicate her life in the way she has.
It is important to say however that it doesn't require a formidable intelligence or a mastery of logic to distinguish between the facts and lies of gender ideology. The difficulty is understanding how these ideals came to be so deeply embedded in our institutions that it now requires bravery to tell such basic truths.
Joyce is your cult leader. If she said up was down you'd agree with her.
That last child is going to grow up and realize only ONE person in his life ever tried to protect him and that was the person who was cut off from him. It's horrific.
This is so obvious it hurts. On Reddit FtM a young woman asked the group a couple of days ago what to do - she said she loves her mother, but her mother occasionally “midgenders“ her. She received a series of responses, all saying the same thing: “dump her”, “get rid of her”, “cease contact”.😢
They might never know that person was ever there. They might be cut off from them completely by then.
I'm the person in our family who sees the naked emperor. In a family of 3 others who buy in to the gender woo lock, stock and barrel. It's devastating and I'm just trying to stay connected so I can be there when he comes around and realizes he's a boy and that's a wonderful thing.
@@collyernicholasjohn few days ago I was permabanned from Reddit (no warning, nothing) for stating that trans men cannot have periods and endometriosis nor experience menstrual pains due to not having ovaries and uteruses. This was flagged as the worst and the most severe hate speech that requires the harshest punishment. They allow hate speech against Jew and calls for their genocide and similar, but god forbid you state biological facts. I'm doing a PhD in medical physics and stuff about male/female biology is stated in my texbooks. In postgraduate studies. Related to medicine. Those people are crazy and demented.
@@reginazwilling5276 Bless you, and good luck. It’s not easy to watch this unfold.
Transhausen parent: “Trust your child.”
Helen Joyce: “I don’t trust my child to brush his teeth!” 🤣🤣🤣
Transhausen :) Thats the first time I say that written, brilliant.
Helen has restored a large portion of my sanity. She's like the OG in a world of gender madness.
Do you subscribe to any radical feminist content?
@@EllaAndrophobia I follow a lot of radfems, yeah. There's something so completely down to earth about Helen that's always refreshing.
It should be common sense that children are too young can't understand the implications of these kind of life altering decisions. It's extremely rare that a female will be given an hysterectomy before the age of 25 because their brain has not fully matured yet and they may change their mind as they mature and want biological children. It's the reason we have laws in place to protect children from sexual exploitation etc.. If an underage child consents to having sex with an adult it's still against the law because they just aren't old enough to truly understand what they are consenting to or the harm it will cause or the psychological impact.
Children with gender dysphoria rarely have that by themselves. They also tend to have a lot of other psychological disorders such as eating disorders, autism, depression and often a history of self-harm threats or attempts at suicide. There's a high rate of comorbid psychiatric conditions. cognitive maturity does not occur until the mid-20s and minds change before the age of cognitive maturity and especially if an individual has an autism spectrum condition or some other situation that might delay uh brain maturity that age of maturity might even be later
Most gender dysphoria resolves. If you a give a pre-pubescence or teenager puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones it essentially halts the development of that adolescent on multiple levels.. physiologically, socially, perhaps intellectually. Your halting the natural process of development. So let's say you start a kid at age 14, two years later you're essentially still dealing with a 14-year old. All of their peers have advanced and having more complex interactions and they're going through puberty. They're experiencing all the things that occur during puberty and that process seems to resolve most gender dysphoria. You are halting the process that actually leads to resolution. If you're halting a child's development how are they supposed to decide?
Kids who go on cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers have a high likelihood of it causing permanent infertility, problems with brain structure( for males in particular testosterone is very important for normal male brain development) increase in hemoglobin and hematocrit to red blood cells and cardiovascular health Puberty adolescence is the time for maximum bone density development During puberty humans put on more than 50 percent of the bone density so there's circuitry falls in bone mineral density and increased risk of things like osteoporosis. Puberty is arguably and the most significant developmental time for a human in terms of physical and psychosocial development and sexual maturity.. A person essentially figures out who they are and how they fit into being a human. It's the transition from childhood to adulthood. It couldn't be more important in terms of an individual's long-term physical and mental health. If you halt that process the child will have a lack of socio sexual development and sexual development as a whole. It will affect their ability to have sexual gratification and orgasm, essentially immature genitalia. A micro penis.
There was a transwoman called Brianna who's 22, who transitioned young on an interview the other day who said doctors told her they could make her exactly like a biological female with a vagina just like one. She now has no sex drive and unable to have intercourse.
There is differences between men and women on biochemical and cellular levels. That's why so many trans people have negative health complications from taking cross hormones at the levels that isn't what their body is built for. Every single cell of our body that has a nucleus has either an X X or an X Y chromosome in it and each cell behaves according to its complement of sex chromosomes independently of hormones. There's a host of biological and sex specific differences. It's not like we're all made up of ambivalent cells who will respond simply according to the bath of hormone that you put them in, The way that our DNA expresses itself is also sex dependent in terms of what genes are turned on and turned off. if you take a male or female hormone and put it into the opposite gender physiology at access levels it should be no surprise bad things are going to happen. For example. a woman who takes testosterone is at a much higher increase and risk of heart disease. A man who takes estrogen , after about five years or so his risk of developing blood clots and strokes are two to three times the rate of women and men not taking test estrogen. X X and X Y cells are different and they respond differently to hormones. An adult who is aware of the risks can understand fully but still make an informed decision, a child cannot.
We know there are only two sexes in humans because there are only two possible sex cells (sperm or egg). No one can produce both. Human males are those whose sexual anatomy is organized around the production (and delivery) of sperm. Human females are those whose sexual anatomy is organized around the production of eggs. There are no other possible sex cells in existence. The sex of an organism is defined and identified by the way in which it is organized for sexual reproduction. Natural organization is the defining feature of an organism,. The various parts … are organized to cooperatively interact for the welfare of the entity as a whole. they are all characterized by the integrated function of parts for the sake of the whole. Male and female organisms have different parts that are functionally integrated for the sake of their whole, and for the sake of a larger whole-their sexual union and reproduction. Our sexual organization begins with our DNA and development in the womb, and that sex differences manifest themselves in many bodily systems and organs, all the way down to the molecular level. Our physical organization for one of two functions in reproduction shapes us organically, from the beginning of life, at every level of our being. Cosmetic surgery and cross-sex hormones can’t change us into the opposite sex. They can affect appearances. They can stunt or damage some outward expressions of our reproductive organization. But they can’t transform it. There can’t turn us from one sex into the other.
When Helen read the part where there was 2 parents that have degrees in gender studies (5:54), then that told me that those parents are Trans activists. Gender Studies is clearly a useless degree. You may as well get a degree in the study of Unicorn Genders, especially since it would be just as useful. Look when these Non Binary and Gender Fluid individuals can change their gender identity from day to day, as well as change their pronouns whenever they want. Then those individuals are detrimental to any society. Especially when those individuals in the UK can have someone charge, or fined for not using a Non Binary or Gender Fluid individuals pronouns du jour. When any individual is allowed to change their pronouns with the wind, then that automatically introduces anarchy and chaos to any society, period.
If my 6 year old asked me when he could have his pee pee cut off, I’d be quizzing anyone who’d been on their own with him because a child wanting to cut his penis off is a HUGE red flag for abuse.
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HUGE - like it couldn’t get any bigger than that. These parents are disgusting.
I mean they’re disgusting for abducting their responsibility of being a parent and helping their child with honestly.
I agree. If my son came home talking about cutting off his penis I would want to know immediately who was telling him that.
Some of this sounds like emotional parentification and adultification. The child is being treated like an adult too early, and the parents are using them as confidants.
And as it was the grandfather, he might be dead by the time the child wakes up, so the child won't even be able to say thank you for trying.
Mothers with cluster B personality disorders abusing their children
Helen, on the other hand, views children as property that you can dictate what they are allowed to feel about themselves.
@@connor5669 Nah. Biology dictates your sex. Being or becoming the other sex isn't something you can "feel" about yourself. Thinking you are the other sex is just that: a false belief that is dangerous to reinforce... If you "feel" like a woman, that's not you being an actual woman, that's you thinking you are what your idea of a woman is (often a caricatural projection/image of it).
Women can act, dress and do everything seen as conventionally "male", that still doesn't make them men, they're still women; you could qualify them as masculine etc. and that's fine. Same for men. So for a man to say he "feels like a woman" doesn't even make any sense, whatever he feels isn't a woman's feeling, it's a man's feeling of what he thinks a woman feels like. There's no bypassing biology. Sex is a truth present down to every cell.
The most that should be recognized are possible (very rare) cases of gender dysphoria, and even for that, transitioning has no solid scientific evidence to support that it helps. On an anecdotal scale it may help some (even then, often only from the initial euphoria from such radical changes), it still should never be done on minors, especially given the large percentage of those that grow out of these beliefs (shouldn't even be done before ~25 but that's their choice at least).
Most of the current trans "movement" stems from that social contagion/neo-religion aspect, and very few of them legitimately even experience gender dysphoria (the actual DSM disorder), but rather fall into these beliefs like people join/are born into religions...
Implanting these beliefs in vulnerable minds should be a crime, especially when those people are often gay but end up believing they're the other sex and get sterilized for it... disgusting cult behavior.
@@connor5669 she certainly does not.
Helen said that a lot of these passages felt very "American" to her. I agree. It makes me wonder if this is just the most extreme manifestation the "my child is perfect" parenting. That recent attitude toward your children is indeed very American IMO. Also, I think this craze is an offshoot of hyper-individualism, which is ironic coming from the people who claim they hate individualism.
I think she's right - it's narcissism all the way down.
@@annal2740 Yep, I think so too.
You're right. It's hyperindividualism in which children are treated like ahistoric, all-knowing beings. But what I find interesting is that these parents aren't exactly leaving it all up to their children. As Helen said, these parents wouldnt accept it if the child asserted they are black if they're not. So while this seems like parents are taking a hands off approach, they really aren't. They've just narrowed which identities are acceptable. For them, changing gender is ok. Other aspects of identity (e.g., race, ethnicity, age, disability) are off limits. What's strange is if gender is socially constructed, surely race is. None of it makes logical sense. But it's a social shift. It's similar to other times in history, like the Salem Witch events, in which society completely believed a group of young girls and chaos ensued. The trans fad is different in content today but the process is the same as it always was.
@@annal2740ALL the way down
I agree. Helicopter parenting. Affirming everything your child says etc. Very dangerous.
Helen is always brilliant. The subject matter is so grotesque, as the host said, I can't believe this is actually happening.
Helen has literally zero expertise in the matter, and she does not consider even the remote possibility that trans identity is a natural feature of human psychology
People like you actually baffle me.
I can totally see why Maya persevered with asking Helen to join Sex Matters.
I believe Helen turned the job offer down initially.
They often use sentence: “Living as my true self.” But your true self would be living as you really are - a boy who loves make up and doing hair, for example. Hiding behind the opposite sex is running from your true self.
Yes! Insightful.
Great point!
You know what they say about boys who hide behind girls. LOL
No, lmao. Living your true self means being accepting the parts of yourself that you cannot control. You can't force yourself not to be trans, it's not how it works
perhaps there should be condemnation of those that shame such boys liking things like make up, or "girly" clothes or hair, maybe that would curtail some of the trans issues we face today.
An incomparable voice in this farce of a debate. We're slowly pushing back against this lunacy, thank god.
"Both my husband and I have a background in social justice education....and even with two degrees in gender studies between us..." No kidding! 😂 Made me laugh out loud.
My older son developed an addiction to marijuana at age 14. "Let the child lead?" No. I flushed it down the toilet and he graduated high school, went to college, got highest marks in some semesters.
I can listen to Helen annotate books all day ❤
This!
When my daughter announced a transgender identity at age 13 in 2017, I wanted to learn and the first book I read was "the Transgender Teen" by Stephanie Brill. The book left me more confused. The fact that I could never understand what being transgender meant even after trying really hard, led me to realize it was all nonsense. If only Helen's book and others like the excellent, "When Kids Say They're Trans" by Sasha Ayad, Lisa Marchiano and Stella O'Malley existed in 2017, I would have been better equipped to understand the situation earlier on. I figured it out on my own soon enough and so did my daughter 4 years later!
I'm glad you both figured it out! Stephanie Brill is doing harmful work.
Care to explain the science of gender identity or no?
@@Michelle-Davis I'm not aware that there is any science behind it.
@helenspielbauer644 There is science behind gender identity.
The reason you're not aware of the science is because have nevervresearched it and you only listened to influncers who agree with you.
@helenspielbauer644 yes. Have you bothered to look?
I was a tomboy, spent some time wanting to be a dog when i was very young. Now im a gender nonconforming bisexual woman..im so grateful my parents just let me be. Just because i dont wear makeup, heels or have womanly interests doesn't make me a male.
You are not “gender non-conforming”. You are a woman. Period. Your hobbies or interests or tastes in clothes etc can by definition be neither male nor female. The terms male and female refer to biological reality, not your subjective fashion preferences or present intellectual interests.
The fact that you are also same sex attracted is also secondary and honestly utterly irrelevant to anyone except whoever you chose as a life partner.
"What if your child said they were a fish. Would you throw them in the ocean?" God protect this woman at all cost because she is not only a genius, but she's also hilarious. She's beyond frustrated, and I get it. The narcissism here in America is at another level thanks to TT and other social media platforms. It's the compelled speech that terrifies me.
If you think the U.S. has lost its collective mind, look north to Canada. (Tranada).
Women are now defined by our Supreme Court as “anyone who identifies as one”.
Women sex based rights are gone. Parental rights are gone. Child grooming by men cosplaying as women is allowed in all government institutions and workplaces, including kindergarten and public schools.
Canadians speaking out against the sterilization of children or women who speak out against having men in the washrooms, showers, prisons, sports or rape shelters can face criminal charges for “hate speech”.
Story hour with Helen Joyce, I love it
Yeah, the poor kids are being completely "Jackanoried" by the very adults who are supposed to be the responsible ones. But these "adults" are too busy wanting to avoid having to set proper boundaries because it might make them unpopular with their offspring for a while. Yet that's what authentic parenting is. For sure, a kind approach is needed when it comes to discussing, explaining, and maybe re-explaining many times, but it's not kind to just give in.
Could re-title the book 'The Dishonest and Incompetent Parent'.
With a subtitle of "Delusions of Well-meaning Adults."
Thank you. Disturbing, illuminating stuff.
Just because a child doesn’t conform to the gender stereotypes of their era or culture, it doesn’t mean they should transition into the opposite sex.
When I was six, I wanted to be boy. I wore my hair short, hated wearing dresses or playing with dolls and called myself Gary,(after the school bully).
When I saw the Cecil B DeMille movie “Samson and Delilah” I grew my hair as long as possible and renamed myself after my biblical hero, hoping to acquire his strength.
What I was actually rebelling against was how women and girls were always portrayed as weak and helpless, and in need of rescuing. Boys toys were more intelligent than girls toys and their clothing was usually more comfortable.
Thank goodness this was back in the 1970’s - today they probably would put me under the knife and pump me full of hormones !
Thank goodness my parents saw this as phase I was going through - no gender affirming care needed.
"I've known this my whole life" says the 7 year old.
That line from Joyce, "Who are these people that need their children for validation?" 👏
Parenting is so much easier when you let your kids raise themselves....
Niceness and politeness and agreeableness is going to kill our societies on very many levels... These parents do not have the strength or the intelligence to tell their children the truth..
They may not even know the truth, magically thinking that puberty blockers, hormones and surgery will solve everything for their magical child.
I had a cheetah phase. I did a lot of sprinting and growling.
Fantastic analysis from Helen Joyce. I understand why she sighs whilst reading out the religious cult nonsense.
I would like to know how many trans kids existed when there was no internet?
Exactly. As a 90s kid, there were certainly gender non-conforming kids, but I don't recall anyone being suic**al over it or demanding pronoun or legal changes. Kids seemed more resilient then.
I believe the current thinking would be something like, "They were always there but society wouldn't acknowledge them, and now in our greater wisdom we can allow them to be who they really are." In my view it's a rationalization for what is in reality a social contagion. Have there always been people who didn't feel comfortable with their birth sex? Sure, a few. But as many as now? The likelihood of that is exceedingly low.
trans(vestites) actually existed thousands years ago, too, they were usually involved in religions, rituals, shamanism, and viewed as "3rd sex, special people" etc. But their number was tiny, and those were mostly men who lacked "typical masculinity" and could easily cross-dress. Nowadays everything skewed so much(
WTF is "gender expansive"? Hadn't heard that before...
Show me a so-called 'trans' child and I will show you a child who has had that idea put in their head. It is learned behaviour.
The boy wears skirts because his authentic self is a Scottish Highlander.
This was laugh out loud funny-in a dark way, of course. “Trust but verify”!
I think the maths PHD will find ways to emanate even if not directly used. Helen is using logic to such great effect. great vid
Can anyone listen to this without thinking of dewy-eyed cultists of some other stripe? It is exactly the same language, thrown onto a different subject.
😮....Pure child-abuse..!!....parents and doctors should be held accountable and brought to justice... absolutely outrageous...🤬
One of the great psychological questions I'd like to see studied is what actually is going on with these parents of "trans children". Something is seriously going on there. Surely a mix of motives and dysfunctions but also surely there's a theme.
I'm 71 and I still working on who my true self is. My 84 year old friend says: "oh, you're so young" lol. It's the parent's job to teach them they're a boy or girl. To support them if they have physical or mental developmental issues. To support them whatever their sexuality is (heterosexual or LGB). To keep their body healthy and as it was born physically, with minimal interventions until they are adults.
8:04 "I'm sorry to say, this is so American!" 😂😂😂
Right it's like she's saying only Americans care about their children I guess other countries don't care if they're kids happy and confident
Are these accounts even true? There are two possibilities. (1) The authors have made up these case studies. (2) The parents of these children used their own children as pawns to express their own transgender or "queer" ideologies. This is the exact equivalent of parents forcing their kids to be of a certain religion.)... The written or transcribed expressions of both the kids and parents are too perfectly in tune with transgender ideology to be believable. The kids express themselves as if they are quoting academic texts. The parents express themselves as if they are quoting academic texts. The book ('The Transgender Child') itself seems like a vehicle for the expression of certain queer ideologies, rather than a representation of genuine case studies.
Seems to me that the kids and the parents can read and watch videos. Anyone with enough interest can mimic what they see and read.
I knew Charlize Theron claimed to have a “trans child”, but 4 out of 4? Absolute child abuse.
@@littlecatfeet9064 There's lots of stuff on how "stars" seem to have more non-binary and transgender children than the general population. However, I made a mistake about Charlize Theron, who only has one. Google this article: 'TV stars Carrie and David Grant reflect on ‘beautiful’ moment their child came out as trans'.
"TV stars Carrie and David Grant have revealed that three of their children are trans or non-binary, and admitted that understanding their identities took a lot of 'little conversations'."
I love you Helen Joyce.
#metoo
We all do
Got to say that the story of the lad who identified as a train for a while was very beautiful. You could have a lot of fun with him around that.
The difference between him and trans kids is no processes of development were cut off nor were body parts.
For the first two years of his life my son run around with a toy pushchair and dolls in it, my hubby was a little worried and I told him if he was still doing it at 12 then it was something to be worried about.
He was then obsessed with trains, he run round the house huffing and puffing just like a steam train including the woo woo whistles.
He wore a Thomas the tank outfit for years sometimes even sleeping in it, eventually he moved on from being train mad into transformers and spent hours yet again using and developing his imagination playing with them.
Like all children if they are left to develop while being loved and supported they move on until they grow up.
He’s now an apprentice engineer, all that freedom to play, learn and be inquisitive on how things work had led him to a career he enjoys and is interested in.
Above all he’s a kind, empathetic compassionate critical thinking man, he believes they are out of order and need to leave the kids alone to be innocent kids.
That book belongs with the likes Mein Kampf in terms of infamy.
Only difference is the lunacy starts from page one.
Agreed
"we have two degrees in gender studies but our trans kid knows much more than us" = worthless degree
These people shouldn't be in care of children
“I played along, but i didn’t go trying to give him coal.” 🎉
I once shared an office space with a nice woman, her 5y old boy had two personalities, on some days he declared he was "girls name" and asked to wear skirts on others he was just him. His mom and dad (divorced) played along, sometimes asked him how his girl persona was but just sat back and watched. In pre school / kinder garten it petered out somewhat, she told me that the kids were ok in the group, did not taunt him, have not seen her for a while, last time she and her son -looking healthy and well - just walked by and greeted me, glad they handled it well (in Europe, Switzerland)
Parents that think children can raise themselves.Really bad parents.
And last, the rending pain of re-enactment
Of all that you have done, and been; the shame
Of things ill done and done to others' harm
Which once you took for exercise of virtue.
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had.
And add some extra, just for you.
@@annal2740luv larkin
When Helen mentioned the parents who studied “gender studies” - warning bells went off in my head straight away.
God spare us from the over educated !
"Miseducated" would be a more accurate term. They're not actually learning anything. Just affirming what they already believe.
God save us from people like you. This woman is so illogical and venomous and you have no idea
In nonsense subjects!
Helen Joyce the voice of sanity in a sea of madness (as portrayed in the book) she was asked to read from ....
Those parents in the book are totally messed-up sadistic crazies.
If I wrote in a book that "when I saw my dog eating a fish, I realized that in truth it is a cat", then cat lovers AND dog lovers AND animal lovers AND eco-activists would EAT ME ALIVE.
1:55 When I was a young boy, probably about 4 or 5 I was Donald Duck. I insisted on being called by this name, I maintained that it was me in the Disney cartoons, and was strongly attached to this identity. Thankfully I grew out of this and have a relatively firm grasp on biological reality.
My younger sister, now 20 years old, insisted she was a boy when she was four, five years old. My parents let her dress the way she wanted and made no fuss about it. But they also didn’t lie to her. She studies mathematics now and is happy and healthy.
Some boys think they're superheroes etc, I thought I was a cat, it's just a normal part of kids exploring their imagination
I was told I needed jaw surgery as a child to avoid TMJ, my parents trusted the surgeons and doctors and got the surgery. Im now left with no sensation in the entirety of my mouth and still have TMJ. Cutters want to cut. Doctors are not something to trust indefinitely. it's all a business after all.
What is TMJ?
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 temporomandibular joint, it's where your jaw slots into your skull. OP hasn't expanded on what condition the doctors thought was presenting or potentially presenting, however it's usually a dysfunction of some sort that is best remedied with physical therapies, so I agree with the point. Cutters want to cut and should not be blindly trusted.
Thank you, @@platypups .
The infamous low-budget filmmaker Ed Wood was heterosexual, but inclined to transvestitism. It turns out that his parents really wanted to have a girl child, but when they had a boy, they would dress him in girl's clothes to compensate for his not being a girl. So Ed learned to associate wearing female's clothing with being loved, affirmed and appreciated, which is why he continued to do it in adulthood. I can't help but wonder, then, how many cases of transsexuality represent a similar family dynamic, just to a far greater extreme.
that's so true! Children are very much into surprising adults and making them happy. My youngest niece (3y.o.) whom I accidentally called "a sweet kitten", started meowing and jumping on her 4 limbs right away. While it was funny and everyone was amused, it reminded me a similar story on the tV about a boy who wanted to be a girl because his parents wanted a daughter. It's so important to show children that they are the best and loved ...
We must do everything we can to protect international treasure, Helen Joyce
My son thought he was Batman at 5; he wasn’t
I wished I would grow into a horse at 3 y old,
what an disappointment when I discovered little girls can only grow up to be humans…
Thank god for Helen Joyce, I’m gay, and have known trans women since the 80’s. There was no delusion then, they were accepted in our small city for being loving people, not for who they demanded to be seen as. One dressed as a girl sine childhood, his mother encouraged it, after the age of 30 the transgender stopped. If he had what’s available today his life would be in a miserable state, irreversible damage would have been done. How can a child comprehend the consequences of their medical decisions, they would eat cereal every meal if they could thinking it was the best thing in the world how could it be wrong. They shouldn’t be deciding medical decisions, has the world gone mad.
Parenting: one of the most important jobs in the world and yet we let people with no training or experience do it.
Exactly this
Who do you think should be "training" parents?
Parenting: Training on the job is how you get the experience !
Fortunately: the more "training" a person has, the more terrible their decisions. Most people (ordinary people, that is) make perfectly fine parents: their DNA has had at least 600 million years of experience.
We have to let parents do it. We don't have to give them rubbish advice or an entire culture that confuses their children.
Does anybody have a link to a clip of the scene she's talking about, where the psychos refuse to tell a child that he/she will never be able to get pregnant since he/she is a male?
Helen is incredible.
I am in my 70s now. A Grumpy old man. As a child I was a "Train", A soldier, A footballer, A racing driver, I can go on. The shear stupidity of Trans supporting parents is amazing. Oh by the way, I nearly drowned in my local swimming pool because as a12 yr old I thought I could swim and dived in. I was dragged out of the pool by a couple of blokes thankfully and am still here today.
Looking forward to your new series, Travis. You produce high quality content. Glad to see your health seems to be improving.
I think one of the reasons I love listening to Helen so much is that she strikes the right balance between "this is silly lol" and "wow that's genuinely fucked up" but in a nuanced, well-spoken way.
When I was in highschool, I was told I was a girl and that i wanted to be a girl by my bullies because I like wearing jewelry and I listened to Brittany Spears. These behaviors made me a girl because that's "not what boys do". Today, we are told we are supposed to agree with this line of thinking or else we are transphobic. Count me out.
I’m really glad you let her talk and didn’t interrupt. Perfect host etiquette! Thank you.
This made me cry. Keep up the good work Helen.
"Bonkers" and downright dangerous and will they pick up the pieces when they have ruined lives...🤔
As a child one of my favourite games was to pretend I was a horse!! Thank God I grew up in the 70s so nobody thought I was trying to identify as a horse.
My mother teaches pre-school and many of the boys love to play in dresses. Years onward they are always well developed older boys. There is some studies that say feminine dress and play correlates with homosexuality but the rest are the typical "normal" adult. The thing is if 30 years ago they took the girls who played with "boy" toys and dressed as such, they would trans an entire generation. Growing up in the 90's "girls rule" era is girls could do anything boys can plus more. Naturally girls do tend organically go towards playing "house" and liking dolls. This is without gender roles. However my young daughter I will raise offering any toys and see what she likes for preference not for gender. It is scary having a young child with this insanity. You have to wonder how the parents were raised. If they look at their childhood of some type of trauma they do not want to recreate, or are just that brainwashed by activists. Either way they should not be parents. By the way MANY times I wanted to be a boy through childhood. Boys have responsibility, wealth, and things I wanted. I did not want to have to wait for some sucker to ask me to prom and decide to marry me. I also often wondered what I would look like as a boy. I never thought I was transgender ever. I am a normal woman thank god, I would make a pretty ugly boy.
If a child can choose their gender why not their race ?
Jesus....I still see myself more or less progressive but this is just nonsense. Those parents have no clue what autority means...
5:58 "Two degrees in Gender Studies between us..." I'm going to go ahead and guess they've got one each. That's Maths that is.
All that money spent and not one braincell between those parents
Maybe one of them got halfway through their first and the other halfway through their second.
Common sense and true understanding of child development....parents are moulding their children in their ideology but cannot see it....scary especially as these poor children will grow up with more issues than if left to develop as most of us do with our children.
Thank You for this. Helen is rooted in science and reality.
This is the saddest thing I will hear all day.
Social contagion has consequences.
I’d like a Helen Joyce response to that godawful Transhausen book, but honestly, I think she’s suffered enough!
What an awful responsibility to impose on a child
I wonder what the parents would say if the child said that they identified as a Trump supporter?!
😮😮😮😮
Thank you Helen Joyce
Love this! Thanks! I think this phenomenon of “validating” their precious child is the mirror image of thinking their child is “mentally ill,” “ADHD,” etc. And the so called validation from “clinicians” is hilarious and deeply ironic. These “mental health professionals” used to say homosexuals were “sick.” Until they weren’t.
Re: Helen's "Train boy". Anyone else going all Freudian on this? Was it a very quick labour?
On a more serious note; we all have bits we designate male and female - but that's psychological associations and moves from the personal to the social. We' can gestalt (for the want of a better word) these parts as a dialectic, and move from each position - that's fluidity; and a way we can explain our experiential selves to ourself and others - as in "I feel"! This is part of adult agency. We can relate to 'others' and 'objects', as representatives in part, but not become them; we relate to them. Gender, which get specific and very real at puberty, brings in the physical reality and innate social responsibilities of adult life, and integrations of emotions and the emotional self. Imo, modern media is playing it's part as a distorted mirror, and awareness of image and self are up for the propagandist.
The non-binary movement is part promissory fantasy; and a flight from the body and it's social negotiations, awkwardness, emotions and messy fluids.
I was trying put things simply; but I am yet to learn that skill as I write. Simply, Helen is spot on! Parents are to live out their frustrations and grief through their children or/and avert from anxieties they hold, which the children experience (and play out?): tradition satire is lost. This time the stakes are higher than just status, career, money satisfactions, either personal or social, and there are echoes of the 'Conscious Evolution', which fed into the Eugenics movement........... 'By 'science', 'we' can change our destiny for a better future'; that's the eugenics line!
But, culture isn't the thoroughbred race horse we like to to be; more like a heavy horse ploughing the same field. This time, 'science' and cosmetic surgery stand upright, as the ghost of eugenics is re-invoked, and Mary Shelly's ghost returns to haunt us. Carl Young and many more, must be restless in their graves. No wonder the 'nons' want to rewrite everything to reflect their imaginings.
Helen Joyce is always a pleasure to listen to.
Helen is an absolute boss. I ❤ her.
A very sane and logical woman…well said and thank you….lol😂 (and also 😭 at the ridiculous book..just seems to be the end of society when grown parents have such disgusting ideas about their own children…God help them…)
This madness manifesting as the - "new normal" - certainly isn't going to end well.
This is adults abusing children.
She is so great. And right - it’s all so American 🫠
This episode of history will looked back on as The Tuskegee Experiments, Part II.
We live in a world where saying that MEN AREN'T WOMEN AND WOMEN AREN'T MEN will literally get you fired. Sweet mother of heaven.
hahahaha. ah, Helen! "I didn't go trying to give him coal!" hahaha. brilliant. a LUMP of coal, you might've said.
Much love for Ms Joyce ❤❤❤
"Things ill-done and done to others' harm, That once you took for exercise of virtue: Then fools' approval stings and honour stains" TS Eliot And tragically, some of these kids are going to turn round later and blame their parents for NOT standing in their way........
About 12 yrs ago, the UK education system adopted 😢 American philosophy of child led learning. I taught in a 40 place state school nursery. We had 3 staff and were expected to follow each child's interests and incorporate all aspects of the curriculum this way. Not surprisingly key education milestones were not met and then Ofsted etc were assessed that standards were plummeting but ridiculously blamed staff NOT what the education department had stupidly ordered
Children need and look to the guidance of sensible adults. Not those that are insecure about life and themselves. I've met so many parents who are so scared of saying no to their child in case they get upset.
Great interview with a sensible adult. I suppose my point is that once you the adults are allowing children to lead you in a way that you know is ultimately going to harm them or prevent them from developing, then that becomes neglect and potentially abuse.
If scientists hadn't invented hormone blockers or Dr's doing genital surgery what would have been said to these children then?
This has only started becoming a thing because the medical world has made it so.
Young children in America are ASKED what they identify as BEFORE they say anything. My daughter went to work in a summer camp for girls aged 8-16 and she was told to ask each child what they identified as. From the UK she was horrified. This gives children the idea that they have a choice and then how do they choose? Do they base themselves against stereotypes or that they like mummy more than daddy because they're kind and like the smell of her perfume? This is so seriously messed up, my heart breaks for these children. Of course the craziness is filtering around the world which is frightening.
I love Helen's grounded common sense.
Kids being trains is the most British thing I've ever heard in my life.
I'm in Israel and I don't think any child here has ever considered being a train, ever.
Fabulous Helen, so good to see you talk real!
Male…….female……..heshe…….thats it
Helen Joyce is based.
This is the weirdest episode of jackanory, ever.
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2:54 Put him in the sidings at night! 😂😂