Hey Jack I love the SUR RON content! I have information to share. I race downhill mountain bikes, and I am very familiar with brake setup. The bigger Hope rotor along with the Shimano pads is a great setup. However, if you ever feel that you want to run the Hope calipers and levers, I would advise against it. I used to run Hope levers, calipers, rotors, and pads on my DH bike and was constantly bleeding brakes after each ride. I went with the Shimano Zee levers, calipers, rotors, and pads. They have been doing great for me. I love the way they bite and they are very low maitence wise. I look forward to more vids on the SUR RON!
*video starts with violent camera movement* My first thought: "yeah this is gonna be Rudnik" Rudnik: "Hello all the Jack fans here" Me: "begone foul beast"
OMG. Switch to the complete Hope Brake set up! Hope make the super powerful, highly adjustable, beautiful components. I've purchased 4 sets over the years for bikes I've owned.
Those adjustments made a big noticeable difference. That was one thing I didn't like about these bikes, although it performed well, it to me was just a bit still noisy, whenever it was rev'd up. Its not like you could come down your street unnoticed, people could still hear the noise of the bike, but now I can definitely tell a 75% noise reduction, even at lower speeds. But I think it should come from the factory like that. I want one, but i don't feel like putting time into setting the bike up for quieter performance, for 3500, it should already come that way. When you think of something being " electric " you automatically think of like a golf cart, and it being quiet. But this was a good video, and I hope someone from the manufacturer sees this, and make these modifications.
they have a chain on them because they are more durable for jumps and the surron is a electric “dirt bike” so they would naturally care more about durability that sound
My only criticism or concern is those spacers look like they might cause some extra flex making the braking feel a bit funny. I'd rather a solid plate that sits against the fork to space the whole bracket out.
I am surprised jack was okay with using those wee little spacers, they will definitely cause some play in the brakes, in the mountain bike world when you add a bigger disc/rotor you would not use little spacers you would buy the proper sized mount that bolt directly to the fork then to the caliper
Great to see a belt drive secondary. I did that to my Triumph Bobber last Christmas. Made a HUGE difference for the better. I haven't seen one yet for the Sur-Ron. This is dope! Has it been durable?
Hey sup Jack Cecil from SW Florida have a nice day man Keep make more RUclips videos it is very good and I like it A lot of your car and I love Japan ?
I dont have any actual knowledge on the surron because I never worked on one but a good friend of mine runs a non-electric bicycle with a belt and pinion gearbox, and he needs to change out the belt pullys every 3k miles. (He rides his bike like a mad man, hes been doing 150 miles every week at a high pace)
Jack, at 4:07 you can see there is a bracket that bolts the caliper to the fork.. please get rid of those spacers and buy yourself the proper sized bracket for your new rotor I am a mountain bike fanatic and i know if i used little spacers like that on my mountain bike i would feel the flex/play in my brakes
@7.04. looks like you have not installed the chain stay brace repair. The holes for the four bolts were drilled, but the plate didn't look like it was installed.
Thanks for the post guys !! Going to get one soon !! How did the Hope 225 work with your spacer mod ? I will be doing off road alittle and some down hills so I know I want to get the biggest disk I can for the front.
on my mtb to align the brake caliper so it doesnt rub i loosen it so it moves somewhat freely and then hold the brake in and tighten down the caliper without letting go of the brake, bike has to be off the ground to do this
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts Wait wait wait.. He's got a helmet BUT the real question is .. HOW DID YOU MISS HIM SPORTING IT WHILE RIDING!?! LOL.. I only remember cause his girl was WEARING THE SEXIEST OUTFIT.. YOW'ZERZ!!
If you want a 4 gears with a manual clutch that's full size electric dirt bike then EBeast is the one. We also have a 4 gears electric dirt with a manual clutch that's mid size similar to the ET Time Moto called the EFox! Seen on my Channel
The purpose of the light bee is to be small, compact, and easy to manage. If you want a big dirt bike, buy a big dirt bike. I wanted a small compact bike to commute with.
Jack will use it but rudnik I give a month and that thing will be in the background of his shop sitting collecting dust wondering what's its purpose lol
Jack, you could do a video going over your dust bunnie collection and i would still watch it, you do a great job of being informative and entertaining at the same time.
The belt drive kit is nice but I wont do it with my sur ron for 2 reasons: I ride typically on the street and I need people to hear me because I don't even have proper lighting (turn signals and brake lights) second reason is at 5:58, I would not sacrifice frame stability for it, not to mention damaging it in a sense, it's nice if you ride recreationally and you don't ride off road.
I thought you said I was gonna get one!!!!! lol... these things are the shit they should be me a free one I work 5 miles away I would daily this thing unless we have snow! so cool. PS.. please mine your inactive at the moment ha
JACK YOU GOT THE SAME COLOR ROTOR AS ME! 😉 You won’t regret the power from that rotor:edit you should up grade the rear rotor as well but go with the same size In the rear
@@JackCecil I learned the hard way on my dyna glide..... it was belt driven and I popped clutch do wheelie and the belt popped and I went chain drive ever since.....
Link to rotor? Also, Just saw a vid yesterday that all Chinese ebikes no longer get the 25% import tax.. is this gonna drop a chunk on these bikes now?
Until you can get it to go up the street sideways with smoke billowing from the tyres it’s not for me. PS I’m from Australia and yes that’s how we spell “tires”
I'm curious why you went for the hope floating rotors over the Ice Tech ones as some past experience with DH bikes them hope floating rotors start to rattle after some heavy braking
Agreed. It's pretty cool technology and the fact that you can ride it virtually anywhere is cool but I'd still rather a motorcycle or dirt bike for the money.
I need to build mine and I spent over 13,000 in aftermarket parts. How can I get in touch with you so if you agree I can pay you to help me build mine?
where did you order your sur ron im trying to get one on alibaba but they want to communicate on whats app . i dont want to get scammed please help thanks steven visca
If you want to show off your craft, my name is Damian...? boy I would really love a SUR-RON e-bike to ride around the city and show off, the real fast car with a real fast rider... You see, I know I'm on time
Why go belt that little amount of hp you will lose compared to a chain will be super noticeable won’t it?? And there’s no way the chain is loud enough to be annoying the motor is probably louder than the chain by miles Edit: okay it is super quiet but still
That is a very sketchy thing that the instructions actually tell you to cut and make a weak point in the frame to attach the belt. I would like to get the belt one day but dang I didn't know about that.
@@JackCecil can't wait! I have one and I've been waiting for upgrades for a while. I don't know much about programming those asi controllers so I was hoping a kit would come out or something
why arent they delivered with belt drive from the factory. whenever i hear this dude ride along where i live i think to myself wtf how can you enjoy the ride with all the noise.
Motorcycle Modders : Let's see how loud we can get!
Sur Ron Modders: Let's see how quiet we can make it!
Love seeing jack getting mechanically inclined with all his toys. 👍
Drooling here for the Sur-Ron & The Mazda RX-7, Remembering me my old and beautiful RX-3 AND RX-7 BEAUTIFUL CARS 😢
e bikes are fucking awsome, i cant imagine what eBikes/eCars are capable after 5-10 years. future is electric and thats for sure
Damn you know youre living in 2030 when you have to download an app to tension a belt
Hey Jack I love the SUR RON content! I have information to share. I race downhill mountain bikes, and I am very familiar with brake setup. The bigger Hope rotor along with the Shimano pads is a great setup. However, if you ever feel that you want to run the Hope calipers and levers, I would advise against it. I used to run Hope levers, calipers, rotors, and pads on my DH bike and was constantly bleeding brakes after each ride. I went with the Shimano Zee levers, calipers, rotors, and pads. They have been doing great for me. I love the way they bite and they are very low maitence wise. I look forward to more vids on the SUR RON!
*video starts with violent camera movement*
My first thought: "yeah this is gonna be Rudnik"
Rudnik: "Hello all the Jack fans here"
Me: "begone foul beast"
OMG. Switch to the complete Hope Brake set up! Hope make the super powerful, highly adjustable, beautiful components. I've purchased 4 sets over the years for bikes I've owned.
Those adjustments made a big noticeable difference. That was one thing I didn't like about these bikes, although it performed well, it to me was just a bit still noisy, whenever it was rev'd up. Its not like you could come down your street unnoticed, people could still hear the noise of the bike, but now I can definitely tell a 75% noise reduction, even at lower speeds. But I think it should come from the factory like that. I want one, but i don't feel like putting time into setting the bike up for quieter performance, for 3500, it should already come that way. When you think of something being
" electric " you automatically think of like a golf cart, and it being quiet. But this was a good video, and I hope someone from the manufacturer sees this, and make these modifications.
Did you really just make a comment saying a surron is too loud coming down the street lol
they have a chain on them because they are more durable for jumps and the surron is a electric “dirt bike” so they would naturally care more about durability that sound
I'm getting one in 4 weeks, currently saving like a madman, getting a road legal version with a plate which is a grand more
Hell yea!
U mean u waiting for your tax returns lol
@@vvlswapd200sx no
@@vvlswapd200sx bruh
@@vvlswapd200sx lol
My only criticism or concern is those spacers look like they might cause some extra flex making the braking feel a bit funny. I'd rather a solid plate that sits against the fork to space the whole bracket out.
I am surprised jack was okay with using those wee little spacers, they will definitely cause some play in the brakes, in the mountain bike world when you add a bigger disc/rotor you would not use little spacers you would buy the proper sized mount that bolt directly to the fork then to the caliper
I like the sound of it now!! They are too much fun.
He said "no warranty" realllly quick
Nice upgrade with the rotor. Hope quality is also awesome
Loving the videos on the Sur Ron jack , The Hope factory is about 10minutes from my house in Lancashire England
That’s very cool! If you ever go over there let them know we are using the rotors!!
Great to see a belt drive secondary. I did that to my Triumph Bobber last Christmas. Made a HUGE difference for the better. I haven't seen one yet for the Sur-Ron. This is dope! Has it been durable?
Finally. been excited to see the belt up grade
That thing seems so much quieter. Nice.
Mr.Mister night and day difference
JACK THE 3ROTOR in the beginning intro never gets old, more on the sur ron yeh
Hey sup Jack Cecil from SW Florida have a nice day man Keep make more RUclips videos it is very good and I like it A lot of your car and I love Japan ?
Hello. Have you tested this belt drive kit with 72V battery and BAC8000? If yes, is the belt strong enough?
Good question!
Thats much better jack . Should have come from the factory like that !
How is the front pulley holding up? I’ve heard people complaining about it wearing out rather quickly.
I dont have any actual knowledge on the surron because I never worked on one but a good friend of mine runs a non-electric bicycle with a belt and pinion gearbox, and he needs to change out the belt pullys every 3k miles.
(He rides his bike like a mad man, hes been doing 150 miles every week at a high pace)
Just need to add a speaker that plays the Jetsons car sound when you are moving!
Those hope rotors are floating and that makes more noise those will also go bad faster. I used to run them on all my dh bikes but not that good
Jack, at 4:07 you can see there is a bracket that bolts the caliper to the fork.. please get rid of those spacers and buy yourself the proper sized bracket for your new rotor
I am a mountain bike fanatic and i know if i used little spacers like that on my mountain bike i would feel the flex/play in my brakes
I Like Chiken does hope do the 225mm bracket mate ? Thanks
Remember the cartoon The JETSONS sounds like a car off there 😁👍
@7.04. looks like you have not installed the chain stay brace repair. The holes for the four bolts were drilled, but the plate didn't look like it was installed.
Still recommend the bike? You take the Moto tires any off road? Ie light sand dirt etc
Thanks for the post guys !! Going to get one soon !! How did the Hope 225 work with your spacer mod ? I will be doing off road alittle and some down hills so I know I want to get the biggest disk I can for the front.
Milo 158 I can’t find the spacer kit
on my mtb to align the brake caliper so it doesnt rub i loosen it so it moves somewhat freely and then hold the brake in and tighten down the caliper without letting go of the brake, bike has to be off the ground to do this
This thing needs to pull 80mph AND QUICK Sir Jack..
Jacks gonna need a suit & helmet! Quick!
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts Wait wait wait.. He's got a helmet BUT the real question is .. HOW DID YOU MISS HIM SPORTING IT WHILE RIDING!?! LOL.. I only remember cause his girl was WEARING THE SEXIEST OUTFIT.. YOW'ZERZ!!
The way you align the disk brake is by losing the bolts of the calipers, push the lever and tight the bolts at the same. Thank me later :)
It gets you close but never perfect. I use light and gentle adjustments to find center.
Do you have the X controller? The X controller is quieter then the stock one. Good upgrades how is the front break better?
If you want a 4 gears with a manual clutch that's full size electric dirt bike then EBeast is the one. We also have a 4 gears electric dirt with a manual clutch that's mid size similar to the ET Time Moto called the EFox! Seen on my Channel
The purpose of the light bee is to be small, compact, and easy to manage. If you want a big dirt bike, buy a big dirt bike. I wanted a small compact bike to commute with.
Jack will use it but rudnik I give a month and that thing will be in the background of his shop sitting collecting dust wondering what's its purpose lol
Remember the ruckus?
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts or what about the yellow jeep?
And I’ll buy it back.
He also has a Kawasaki klx110 sitting in tommys shop that has a hole in the crank case or something and it seems he forgot about that
@@brock9518 sold
Needs top speed mods. I wanna see 100+ out of one of these with proper mods
and what are you really gonna do with a 100mph Sur-Ron besides go straight???
Thanks Jack Cecil for vidéo on sur-ron !
Jack, you could do a video going over your dust bunnie collection and i would still watch it, you do a great job of being informative and entertaining at the same time.
Thank you lol.
You should do a give a way with 1
Give away a surron? Damn
Way to go Jack first make sure you can stop before how fast can you make it go your a wise man 🚲⚡💨💨💨🛑💥⚰️
get some upgraded brakes aswell any high end mtb brake will work id reccomend some 4pot hope or magura , would seriously increase braking power
The belt drive kit is nice but I wont do it with my sur ron for 2 reasons:
I ride typically on the street and I need people to hear me because I don't even have proper lighting (turn signals and brake lights) second reason is at 5:58, I would not sacrifice frame stability for it, not to mention damaging it in a sense, it's nice if you ride recreationally and you don't ride off road.
cool seeing those mods! This needs a body kit! ha!
Where did you find a 225mm? Can’t find one anywhere in stock or that will ship to the US, been looking for like a year lol
It sounds like it came straight out of the Jetsons 😄
Patiently waiting for my Sur Ron x to arrive with my belt drive already installed on it
why dont u make a video with ur bike?
JACK... WUT IS THE CORRECT TENSION ON THE APP FOR A SURRON ?????????
What's that going to cost me to get all the top upgrades and the beefed up battery pack, shipped to the USA? To see which kidney I've got to sell.
So these don't cut the motor when braking? Regen thru the chain/belt by any chance?
Where did you get that spacer kit for the 225mm disk , I can’t find anything 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 thanks so much
I know how frustrating this is....why can't the guy just put the links for the parts that he does the video on???
mhhhh...hearing this, think I need that belt too, but first have to rewire mine for the new controller and get that Magura MT 7 in.
@3:20 "these come off pretty easy" - lol yeah, maybe in Hait. I stripped my stock rotors to shit trying to get them off.
How much do you want for it I want one just like that, powerful,fast and quiet, please lmk
How much improvement did the rotor make?
One question. Does it turn off the power to the engine when you use the brakes?
No
I thought you said I was gonna get one!!!!! lol... these things are the shit they should be me a free one I work 5 miles away I would daily this thing unless we have snow! so cool. PS.. please mine your inactive at the moment ha
Def not inactive lol
May I ask what app you used to tension the belt?
Finally 😭😭❤️ jack got ruddy to man up an get one
JACK YOU GOT THE SAME COLOR ROTOR AS ME! 😉 You won’t regret the power from that rotor:edit you should up grade the rear rotor as well but go with the same size In the rear
And Diony soon gonna have one too!! 😂😂 STOKE !
do you think a smaller than 42 teeth in the back will achieve higher top speed
Belt drive makes you more vulnerable when wheelie are concerned but other than that should drive like a Cadillac
I don’t wheelie so it’s all good!
Wtf ? no ? thats a DriveShaft not Belt drive...
@@JackCecil I learned the hard way on my dyna glide..... it was belt driven and I popped clutch do wheelie and the belt popped and I went chain drive ever since.....
What brake claws are that
Good stuff bro keep rolling 💪💯👍👍🆗😂
Link to rotor? Also, Just saw a vid yesterday that all Chinese ebikes no longer get the 25% import tax.. is this gonna drop a chunk on these bikes now?
Norm Schilling that is not true
Wich belt drive system do you recommend and where can I buy it? Thanks for the info.
Gates Carbon belt kit from Luna Cycle. I built a solar charging station for my bikes.
Top Mod With Brake 😎.👍
Until you can get it to go up the street sideways with smoke billowing from the tyres it’s not for me. PS I’m from Australia and yes that’s how we spell “tires”
With the battery upgrade it does just that
There is a YT video covering all pros/cons about street legal eBikes, I believe it may be @lunacycles but I could be mistaken.
sounds like the Jefferson’s car lol
I think that you might mean the Jetsons?
The Jefferson's were about an African American Dry-cleaning tycoon.
robotbroken oops you’re right lol
I'm curious why you went for the hope floating rotors over the Ice Tech ones as some past experience with DH bikes them hope floating rotors start to rattle after some heavy braking
This bike will never see heavy braking. And i couldn’t find the ice tech in a 225mm
@@JackCecil oh I see to be honest I've never tried to find them that big. Keep up the great work as usual Jack
Super nice
Does the belt kit reduce weight materially ?
Hey quick answer where can I get those spacer and bolts to buy?
Aw man, a hope rotor but no hope breaks? That's a crime 😆 the orange breaks would look fly with your bike 👌
Man I want one but can't really justify 3-4k for one
Same here.
Same, if these were 2k id buy one
Agreed. It's pretty cool technology and the fact that you can ride it virtually anywhere is cool but I'd still rather a motorcycle or dirt bike for the money.
Worth every penny
@@Jon95McC that's exactly how I feel
jack put on a big brake kit on a bike
I love this thing
Any issues with the belt yet bro ??
I need to build mine and I spent over 13,000 in aftermarket parts. How can I get in touch with you so if you agree I can pay you to help me build mine?
I live close to you according to yoir videos.
Are these from lunacycle or no? If they're imported, from where?
looks like LunaCycle onem you have one from Russia is SurronShop a bit more expensive but I think better, more teethes and mud holes for mud
So much better with the belt.
where did you order your sur ron im trying to get one on alibaba but they want to communicate on whats app . i dont want to get scammed please help
thanks
steven visca
If you want to show off your craft, my name is Damian...?
boy I would really love a SUR-RON e-bike to ride around the city and show off, the real fast car with a real fast rider...
You see, I know I'm on time
In my mind anyway it might be more efficient with the belt drive
Hey man where did you get the spacers for the rotor? Or does it come with it?
I made them.
Do you remember the length you used ??
Why go belt that little amount of hp you will lose compared to a chain will be super noticeable won’t it?? And there’s no way the chain is loud enough to be annoying the motor is probably louder than the chain by miles
Edit: okay it is super quiet but still
chain is too loud for a electric bike if u ask me, if u wnna drive in silence that is :)
"...a little bit of motor noise..." :D :D
When you gunna do big power upgrades
That is a very sketchy thing that the instructions actually tell you to cut and make a weak point in the frame to attach the belt.
I would like to get the belt one day but dang I didn't know about that.
joetca the pedestal is only there to support pedals. It’s not a structural element of the swing arm.
I would be swapping the chain on
The future is crazy
I like the chain better too
What spacers are they?
12mm
why do you have to cut the metal? i dont get it,,
you cant put the belt otherwise pi think, you can remove the chain but u cant put belt
Hello, what IS the top speed?
BIG upgrades coming! Look at my new brakes people! 🤣😂🤣😂😶
You can create a lot better content than this. I know you can because I have seen you do some superb work when it come to your content
What’s wrong with this video? The brakes and belt upgrade are significant improvements to the bike
Keep up the hard work! Just alot of brake content.
Do you think the belt will hold up with more power??
We dynod one today at 22hp (mine is 6.9hp) with the belt no problem.
@@JackCecil can't wait! I have one and I've been waiting for upgrades for a while. I don't know much about programming those asi controllers so I was hoping a kit would come out or something
why arent they delivered with belt drive from the factory. whenever i hear this dude ride along where i live i think to myself wtf how can you enjoy the ride with all the noise.
it is really loud what you wouldnt expect from an ebike, ordered belt already
Rodnok hasn't got the Gucci Belt yet lol