Great video, thank you! I see you are using the luna 42t kit with the stock knobbies. Have you experienced a drop in torque? I have the same set up on the way, but am considering getting a larger belt and sprocket because I read that 42t is small for 19” wheels. I’m new though, so let me know! Cheers
To be honest I did only 1 mile on a chain so I cant really tell. But if you don't mind losing some high speed invest in a larger sprocket, I would do that too but will leave it like this for some time now.
Thanks, I appreciate the reply. How are you enjoying the belt drive with the stock knobbies? Does it have good acceleration? Enough to beat cars off the line?
@@danparker123 The start is solid, nothing too strong. I really cant tell you more about it as I don't have much experience. But when I drive around town in little streets I have no problems being fast. People comment "wow the pull, its surprising and fast". Its a very good starting point before you tube it up, I really enjoy it. I also use silicon spray, a drop every time after a ride just to reduce the sound to the maximum
@@danparker123 When bike is on a stand I just put little bit on both belts on the inside side while holding the throttle on slow speed, Ill do short video about it soon
yeah ...all weathers , or just straight street wheels ..lol i would assume this for city driving ,,,WHICH I LOVE this video ..lol i kinda wish they a second street model, that was born this way ...:)
Too far away Meena :) In EU. If you find anyone skillful with a OK workshop at home they can do it for you if you gave them my tutorial to watch :) You have great videos on your profile BTW
This belt kit does not last . I had it for about a year and it chewed up the front pulley teeth. I was left stranded in the middle of the wilderness about the miles from a trail head. Thanks Luna!
@@silentsurron7272 how many miles before that started happening? seems like quite a few people reported the same problem, now i'm wondering if i should upgrade..
@@v000000000000v I have no idea as I dont have a meter on my bike to measure the distance I have passed so far. But its way too soon (thats what I would say).
Bro, this is step by step, its so easy! I needed to decipher all the data and images from Luna kit and it was not easy :) I think it will be quite easy for you just don't rush it.
@@lifeisamovi Hey, check my last video and you will see that after few miles/kilometers you cant se any blue on the belt, so maybe its not a thing to worry about.
I bought the kit 4 or so months ago. It’s been sitting on the shelf. Can’t decide if I want to convert or leave it lol. I ride 60% street 40% off road, gravel woods etc. Do you have any experience with this off road? What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance!
I go around to off-road, and dirt and gravel woods and didn't had any problems, I'm around 1000 km now. It depends which kit you have, maybe to check with manufacturer is it capable to withstand stuff, I heard there are better and worse ones (belts). But at the end of the day I don't think there is any guarantee. But for anyone who is serious about off-road, like trails and stuff, I suggest chain, just because its less risk. Also, if you already have it, put it on and drive it, if it brakes it brakes :) you push the bike. Its few hours of work to put it on, or to put the chain back on if it snaps. And I don't think it can snap easily.
I have used belts before in different things including my surron primary drive and I always soak them with 303 Aircraft protectant and they seem to last forever!
Not that good, Luna kit is not good as front pully is from aluminium and it loses shape so it starts to rub the belt the wrong way so every now and then you need to buy new belt.
@@_peacexplorer_ give me a file I have one company which always makes me stuff, but never tried with CNC, always laser cutting and bending. If you want I can try, I can make you one and ship it to you also if its not too expensive to make one or ship one :)
Not for abusive riding!! Should be a massive disclaimer with this product! Any form of off road, hard riding, stunting or wheelies will render this useless
Its not THAT loud to begin with. Its already a silent Ebike with no running engine... Especially going slow, u are a ninja. I am using a non o ring chain and lubed it with chainsaw oil and its pretty friggin quiet.
It's winter time so my bike is at rest at the moment, but so far never had a single issue and I love it! Sometimes when I watch any of my clips that I have in the phone of someone else driving the bike I'm always surprised how SILENT it is!
Well, that slim metal bar is only there for old Luna Cycles pedal kit, so it really isn't important. And also, later you re-enforce that part with a metal that you get from Luna so your bike is not left with a hole on the frame.
Do you see it on 1:38 ? But, that was slow so I took nice Cut-Off Tool and finish the job very fast. And actually that's just a holder for pedals its not main part of the frame.
@@IROC-ROB I tried with Dremel, small hand tool, the blade on top is circle, 3cm in diameter, its very problematic to get in there with that tool, I needed to use one with circular blade 10cm diameter, classic one that you would use if you go in your backyard and u want to cut a pipe, sparks going around and stuff :) but its fast and effective. But Dremel was unpractical because of positioning of the spot u need to cut off.
Hey! I bought it at Luna Cycles, I'm in EU and I got it in under a week. But you have other options and this was the cheapest option on the internet. You have one type of belt kit on SurronShop in RU also, but a bit more expensive. The bike is so much more quieter with belt kit, and if you go slow you can only hear your tires, its amazing! Best upgrade so far if you ask me.
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Great video, thank you!
I see you are using the luna 42t kit with the stock knobbies. Have you experienced a drop in torque? I have the same set up on the way, but am considering getting a larger belt and sprocket because I read that 42t is small for 19” wheels.
I’m new though, so let me know!
Cheers
To be honest I did only 1 mile on a chain so I cant really tell. But if you don't mind losing some high speed invest in a larger sprocket, I would do that too but will leave it like this for some time now.
Thanks, I appreciate the reply.
How are you enjoying the belt drive with the stock knobbies? Does it have good acceleration? Enough to beat cars off the line?
@@danparker123 The start is solid, nothing too strong. I really cant tell you more about it as I don't have much experience. But when I drive around town in little streets I have no problems being fast. People comment "wow the pull, its surprising and fast". Its a very good starting point before you tube it up, I really enjoy it. I also use silicon spray, a drop every time after a ride just to reduce the sound to the maximum
Where do you drop the silicon spray?
@@danparker123 When bike is on a stand I just put little bit on both belts on the inside side while holding the throttle on slow speed, Ill do short video about it soon
oh now that is very very nice :) this has tempted me to get a sur ron at last! the more i find out about the platform the more i find to like...
Lol I had the belt kit for my bike. After about when you're riding the front sprocket completely wore down.
I do have a problem with it also, my belt is not good I need to check my pullies to see are they ok
This is also HOW to make a tutorial video. Bravo!
Thank you!
My surron is used nearly all of the road in sandy dirt if not plain sand I got rid of the belt but used a 219 chain not a 420 to keep the noise at bay
i would change the tyres too, to some 50/50 road tyres because those knobs make a heck of a noise tbh
yeah ...all weathers , or just straight street wheels ..lol i would assume this for city driving ,,,WHICH I LOVE this video ..lol i kinda wish they a second street model, that was born this way ...:)
Where do you live?! Dang, I would pay you to do this to my bike. I bought mine pre owned and it has a chain drive so it’s extra loud
Too far away Meena :) In EU. If you find anyone skillful with a OK workshop at home they can do it for you if you gave them my tutorial to watch :) You have great videos on your profile BTW
This belt kit does not last . I had it for about a year and it chewed up the front pulley teeth. I was left stranded in the middle of the wilderness about the miles from a trail head. Thanks Luna!
To tell you the truth, same here. It started to be chewed up. -.-
@@silentsurron7272 how many miles before that started happening? seems like quite a few people reported the same problem, now i'm wondering if i should upgrade..
@@v000000000000v I have no idea as I dont have a meter on my bike to measure the distance I have passed so far. But its way too soon (thats what I would say).
It seems like if the front pulley is chewing up the belt something is not in correct alignment
Ur video helped me figure out how to remove my jackshaft
Make only sense if you drive stock or slow, because the belt is not really robust at least
True
Why these are so noisy? No issues with motorcycles.. too small primary gear? Resonates to frame?
belt is not noisy, chain is noisy. Its metal on metal, thats why
@@silentsurron7272 motorcycles aint that loud, not even close.. These bikes spins that primary faster tho 🤔
1 Belt kitt for my Drill one, thx 😃
@@skeimi78 You just don't hear the chain because the gas motor is so loud.
This will be my first big upgrade to the bike but the installation looks intimidating lol. Very very good video though👍
Bro, this is step by step, its so easy! I needed to decipher all the data and images from Luna kit and it was not easy :) I think it will be quite easy for you just don't rush it.
@@silentsurron7272 is there a conversion kit that is NOT blue on black ? it’s so ugly .
@@lifeisamovi Hey, check my last video and you will see that after few miles/kilometers you cant se any blue on the belt, so maybe its not a thing to worry about.
@@silentsurron7272 awesome man .
@@lifeisamovi no worries ;)
Why not make these belt drive stock?!
cause then it wont be good for offroading and most people get it for that reason
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Thank you, it's easy :)
I bought the kit 4 or so months ago. It’s been sitting on the shelf. Can’t decide if I want to convert or leave it lol. I ride 60% street 40% off road, gravel woods etc. Do you have any experience with this off road? What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance!
I go around to off-road, and dirt and gravel woods and didn't had any problems, I'm around 1000 km now. It depends which kit you have, maybe to check with manufacturer is it capable to withstand stuff, I heard there are better and worse ones (belts). But at the end of the day I don't think there is any guarantee. But for anyone who is serious about off-road, like trails and stuff, I suggest chain, just because its less risk. Also, if you already have it, put it on and drive it, if it brakes it brakes :) you push the bike. Its few hours of work to put it on, or to put the chain back on if it snaps. And I don't think it can snap easily.
Can u do a video on how to replace ur main drive belt when u need to replace it?
Didn't do that so far, so sorry ;)
Can it be converted back to chain drive easily?
yes :)
Massive improvement, awesome machines
I love it!
Hey nice video, Im just wondering if you have to maintain this more often and if it is weaker and can snap easily? and is it good for off roading?
No maintaining at all. And if you make it weaker then it can snap. learned this hard way lol
I have used belts before in different things including my surron primary drive and I always soak them with 303 Aircraft protectant and they seem to last forever!
So how is it going?
Not that good, Luna kit is not good as front pully is from aluminium and it loses shape so it starts to rub the belt the wrong way so every now and then you need to buy new belt.
@@silentsurron7272 that's right. This is why i trying find a way to make a custom pulley from steel.
@@_peacexplorer_ if you do let me know pleaase
@@silentsurron7272 main problem is arrogant turners and cnc-operators. The don't want to take a small orders.
@@_peacexplorer_ give me a file I have one company which always makes me stuff, but never tried with CNC, always laser cutting and bending. If you want I can try, I can make you one and ship it to you also if its not too expensive to make one or ship one :)
Did u happen to go back to chain ?
no
Reason I didn't get the belt over the chain was I heard if you plan to upgrade to more power the belt was snapping on people.
Didnt hear that so far. Maybe its true. cant confirm. But Iwe seen few tuned surrons with belt here on youtube
@@silentsurron7272 idk how true it is either but I didn't want to take a chance if I ever do plan to add power.
mine snapped
Do you have to loosen the belt tension in order to remove the rear wheel? Looking to install different tires. Thanks
I would bet you need to do it, same as on video while I was removing the rear tire
Not for abusive riding!! Should be a massive disclaimer with this product! Any form of off road, hard riding, stunting or wheelies will render this useless
I stunt with mine
Do you loose any torque changing to a belt drive?
not sure. I didnt even drive with chain more than 1km distance
Bro you have that axle way to far forward you want to have the axle as far back in the swing arm as you can
Or, Try WD40 on the stock chain.. It amazing how much it cuts the noise.
I would use belt over chain anytime, but thats just me :) I like silence
You should never use WD-40 on chains other than cleaning. It's a short-term lube and will evaporate rather quickly and will wash away the good Grease
If your going to use wd40 make sure it’s the silicone based one
Its not THAT loud to begin with. Its already a silent Ebike with no running engine... Especially going slow, u are a ninja. I am using a non o ring chain and lubed it with chainsaw oil and its pretty friggin quiet.
Its a personal thing. I really prefer a silent ride. like there is nothing under me :)
Definitely not for offroading
Anyone have this on 15kw+? Anyone going 80-100mph with this and no issues with breaking belt?
How this belt system holding up? Any negative issues? Thanks
It's winter time so my bike is at rest at the moment, but so far never had a single issue and I love it! Sometimes when I watch any of my clips that I have in the phone of someone else driving the bike I'm always surprised how SILENT it is!
Just and update. everything is more than fine :)
@@silentsurron7272 Do you go off road with it ?
@@surronzak8154 actually yes, its 50/50 at the moment and no problem with belt.
Had the belt kit, hated it.
How do you switch it back I can’t find the front sprocket online
The cutting part is the part i didn't like :),but well done :)
Well, that slim metal bar is only there for old Luna Cycles pedal kit, so it really isn't important. And also, later you re-enforce that part with a metal that you get from Luna so your bike is not left with a hole on the frame.
@@silentsurron7272 Excellent video!! Can we make the cut even smaller and still fit the belt through? Any problems with rust?
How did you cut the frame to install the belt drive?
Do you see it on 1:38 ? But, that was slow so I took nice Cut-Off Tool and finish the job very fast. And actually that's just a holder for pedals its not main part of the frame.
@@silentsurron7272 nice ok. Yeah when I saw you with the saw I figured you had to of got another tool. I may use a Dremel with the metal cutting tips
@@IROC-ROB I tried with Dremel, small hand tool, the blade on top is circle, 3cm in diameter, its very problematic to get in there with that tool, I needed to use one with circular blade 10cm diameter, classic one that you would use if you go in your backyard and u want to cut a pipe, sparks going around and stuff :) but its fast and effective. But Dremel was unpractical because of positioning of the spot u need to cut off.
Not good in the desert this is good in the road only
where did you buy the kit?
Hey! I bought it at Luna Cycles, I'm in EU and I got it in under a week. But you have other options and this was the cheapest option on the internet. You have one type of belt kit on SurronShop in RU also, but a bit more expensive. The bike is so much more quieter with belt kit, and if you go slow you can only hear your tires, its amazing! Best upgrade so far if you ask me.
No one is telling u that U habe to cut Ur frame for doing that xddd....
Well, you do have to :)
every belt drive has a cut frame so need to tell anyone since everyone knows in order to have a belt drive the frame is cut lol
you lose top speed and total range with that belt.. not worth