Rebel Moon Part 2 Review: Worse Than Part 1 (Spoilers)
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- Zack Snyder needs to hire three people: One to write him better scripts, one to stop him from using so much slow-motion and one to give him a hug after all these bad reviews. Snyder's films are ones I wish I could like, but he makes it so damn hard. "The Scargiver" is an absolutely preposterous mess of a movie.
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I guess Zack Snyder looked at the landscape of contemporary sci-fi and decided that what the world needed was scenes of grain harvesting?
Yeah, in extreme slow motion, over and over on repeat.
The harvesting scenes had me very iterated. The had anti-gravity trucks but never developed a harvester? One day of combat training and defensive preparations? Might be the worst thing Ive seen this year, which is sad as I'd hoped this series was going to be good when first announced.
Someone should make a 10 hour video that's just a loop of the grain harvesting scene. That'd be a good video to help falling asleep.
You forgot the string quartet live orchestrating the death of the king . That was so immediately bizarre.
I agree...people are getting killed and the quartet just keeps on going. Would have been bit more realistic to have the music been ended abruptly into disharmony when the royal family is killed.
Maybe he was going for a Red Wedding vibe lol
I guess in every culture in the universe, the all seeing eye is a major symbol. I wish "the powers that wish to be" would give us a break with that shit.
Unrelated to your video but:
Just wanted to say I saw your article on forbes about the current matters with Helldivers and Sony. Don't always agree with your takes but I appreciate you bringing some of these topics to a more "mainstream" audience. I think you are doing good work and the world is a (marginally) better place from your efforts.
Thank you
Slowmo's of grain harvesting sounds exactly like what we sci-fi starved fans have been looking for in a new IP. Really looking forward to it. Yeah, that barley joke was bloody awful Erik, proper Dad joke. Hope you're watching and enjoying the Fallout show as I am. That would be a good cure for the fugue state.
Fallout is amazing! (and yes, terrible dad joke I know)
Special effects with explosions and ships are awesome, but the story is Bugs Live. Only problem farmers land is completely destroyed.
Many, many, many moons ago I thought it would be clever to play a drinking game while watching The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Taking a shot of tequila every time they used the whaa, whaa, whaaa sound. That was a mistake.....
Heh
Its so bad, the first half is so slow and not just because of all the slow motion , when it finally does get going it barely manages to hold much interest,. Poor Sir Anthony Hopkins getting involved with this. Great callout to the wonderfull Iain M Banks btw, wish someome (not Jack Snyder obv) would make a film of Consider Phlebus, wasnt that going to happen a few years back but it got canned?
The whole war scene with Titus and the prince guy was basically dynasty warriors type battle
I gave up after the first hour of Part 1. Just couldn't take any more of that dirge.
I dragged myself through Pt1, i could not watch Pt2 got the harvest and had to stop
Completely off topic - Hey Erik, just happened across you because I was searching for some analysis of that s**t show True Detective 4. Anyway, back in the day, I enjoyed your take over at The League of Ordinary Gentlemen. Cheers, Bob
Way back in the day! Cheers!
I was hoping you’d review Fallout, but great video here!
I will! It's in the works
Barley an inconvenience is literally a joke he actually made haha, so dont feel too bad about it :D
Oh ha that's good to know! Lol
I am still completely confused about how producers handle Snyder. They seem to give him the keys to the kingdom, and then regret his excess after it’s too late to do anything about him. Either you sign up for these self-indulgent 3+ hour epics (which in the streaming era would be fine if you forgo theatrical releases) or he needs people there to push back against him during pre-production and filming. There’s talent there for sure, but a lot of these initially finished projects seem like forcing a square peg into a round hole.
Just started the video, but I'mma make a prediction: SLOW MOTION
Dang - within the first minute he says it
Zack Snyder does have some talent. But his best films are ones where he's 'working with' another talent. 300 is an adaptation of Frank Miller's great book. Dawn of the Dead - James Gunn wrote the screenplay. Watchmen (arguably the worst of these three, but also probably his third best film) - adapting Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons' book. He needs to do straight adaptations or work with a screenwriter on the level of Gunn, apparently.
Nice Iain Banks reference! This channel's got it all
Thanks! Appreciate that. And very astute observations on his three best films. George Lucas has similar issues. He does better when he handles big story beats but gives the screenplay and direction to other people.
Cheering for your recovery.
Yeah this movie for sure goes for the grain harvesting. I started to fast forward the grain harvesting sections since it seemed just like a way to increase the running time of this movie. Also the whole grain plot is insane since in this vast empire spanning universe this one village seems to be the only one to be able to produce grain for the soldiers on broad of a huge spaceship. If this empire is run this badly as far as logistics go its a miracle that they have been able to conquer so much of the galaxy. Also i dont think the korean actress aka the blade woman or the prince spoke at all during the first 30 or maybe even 50 minutes of the runtime of this movie. What is the point in showing a group of heroes and not let them have moments to interact with each other. Also does anyone else find it weird that the farmers are using traditional means for collecting the grain but they use a hovercraft based technology to carry the grain. Also for some weird reason you need horses to pull a hovercraft along. If the hovercraft can hover on its own power I am pretty sure it can also move on its own.
Yeah all of this.
I forgot this film was even a thing. The first one was pretty inane, so I’m not shocked this one was awful. Zack Snyder just can’t seem to ever stick the landing. High concepts, poor execution.
Did we watch the same movie? (referring to part 2)
Will you be reviewing the Fallout Amazon series?
Yes!
@@ErikKain Nice!
I don't really understand Zach Snyder on how he picks what projects he wants to do. He is in the enviable position of being in the .00001% of humanity who can choose to make what ever movie he wants and bring it to actual life. This is the best he can do. He could have optioned books like A Fire Upon the Deep or the very strange The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters with it steampunk Victorian setting. NOPE. Have to do a mediocre Star Wars ripoff because we don't have enough of them. What a waste of talent for everyone involved.
...it's ego. It's not just a Star Wars ripoff; it's the Star Wars idea he pitched Disney and got ghosted for. This is his equivalent of, "well I'll take my toys over to Netflix and make a way better Star Wars, with blackjack and hookers."
He had free rein after 300 to make whatever he wanted and he made.... Sucker Punch
@@timkinss you better grow up and get ready for the fact he wants to remake Sucker Punch
he's stuck in edgy frat bro mode and wants to make compilations of cool and edgy scenes that are assembled into a movie even though they feel like more of a tiktok compilation of unreal engine demo clips
@@LurkingCosmicHorrors I think it's much further along than that. He was that for a moment, but now he's someone who sees himself among true auteurs like Nolan or Tarantino. He's like a Jessie Ventura where he's known for a usual schtick but eventually evolves into something more self-important altogether
I just finished it. I was watching it at work and many times I just forgot I have it on background,work was more entertaining ...
We need to have a conversation about Consider Phlebus. If like to know what you liked about it.
It's been many years since I read it so I'd probably be too foggy on the details now. I just thought it was a really fascinating universe.
Has Zack Snyder become the new M. Night Shyamalan?
Shyhmyalan kinda craps out a decent movie now and then. We haven't seen a decent movie from Zack in...what, a decade? More than that?
but i really love The Village
Why do you remind me of the farm leader Segrey?, (I think that’s how to spell the name), from the first Rebel Moon movie who was beaten to death by Atticus Nobel at the beginning of the film?, 🤔
@12:15 "Watch it so you can marvel at how spectacularly stupid it is."
Ouch!!! It's amazing that Zack Snyder is able to have a career when he continues to produce content that yields criticism like this. Don't get me wrong, even the best director has hits and misses, but the quote above could apply to roughly half of his filmography. How does he still manage to get projects greenlit? I don't get it.
I think this should had gone all out and called this " rebel moon : a tale of two Dario's" She gets the "moniker" of "scar giver" in this movie by OG Dario ... yes its shat stupid . I cant wait for the "enhanced" directors cut that includes weird tentacle sex CGI blood and explicit sexy times 🤮
Love your content. Hope you're in a better place.
Thank you
Idk Erik usually I 100% agree with you on most your videos but on Rebel Moon I think you're being too harsh. Zach gets enough hate from the wokies alone, he's one of the few that refuse to sellout. He deserves our support no matter what. Rebel Moon was enjoyable for what it was. It never tried to be Dune or something like Raised By Wolves.
Good grief, no. I don't "support" someone no matter what because of some abstract culture war BS. The movie was hot garbage.
Both films are a clear example of why you shouldn't let Zack Snyder be a primary writer. Writing is just not his strength. We saw that in Army of the Dead, which was a lazy attempt at 'Aliens, but with zombies'. This was his original pitch to Disney for a Star Wars trilogy and thank god they turned him down. I agree that I liked the first one more, but that film was coming from a very low bar to begin with.
Watched this video in slow motion just because
Lol
I was 30 minutes into the film and was exasperated by how bad it was. So I came and watched your review instead - it was way more entertaining than the film! You forgot to mention that another character died in the film... Zack Synder's career. Full disclosure I loved his Watchmen, Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice. He absolutely shat the bed on this one.
Ha thanks!
I must be in the minority. The movie has it's flaws but I really liked it. As far as storytelling goes, very enjoyable after we get passed the exposition. I thought it was clever how she stowed onto the dreadnaught. As far as "Scargiver" goes.... You must have fell asleep. That was the Admiral's whole motivation for revenge. The only part of the film I really had problems with was the air troops showing up out of the blue...I get the French showed up in the American revolution but at least with that, there was a back story and some suspense.
Zack Snyder is truly the best example of failing upwards but eventually his sheer lack of talent and taste should catch up to him, you'd think.... but alas, here we are still.
Rebel Moon - the Blahgiver.
I haven't seen it. Doubt I will. Maybe hatewatch next week. If I'm bored. Or restringing a guitar. Or clipping nails.
Prefer to watch Fallout again. I'm chewing through Fringe for the 5th time too. That's good.
Zack Snyder thinks his boneheaded ideas and slo-mo wallpers are deeper, more mythical, more important, and more profound than they really are. They are unearned, cringe-worthy, empty, boneheaded motion posters.
At least you probbaly won't have to suffer through the third film because I doubt Netflix is gonna give Snyder the budget to make a third movie when this one will be even watched less than the first one most likely
ure d onli intelligent reviewer ive seen so far. tq for pointing out tis crap is even crappier than expected
I shut off after the bad acting when they say admiral nobel is dead then find out maybe he's not dead, followed by the speech given by the general something something.. to the villages.. it was too cheesy.
So badly written and acted its painful to watch...I have watched it because I watched part 1 but god its awful! There's no genuine feel of emotion from any of the characters, it's terribly acted. Don't waste your 2 hours....AND please don't make a third part!!!!
You got right the part of Star Wars and Super Mario on this one.
Zach should have approached Games Workshop to do a proper Warhammer 40K movie rather than make a second-rate one!
No please. He would prefer space marines as buffoons that need strong women to lead them.
More terrible slow motion drags a 90 minute film into a 2 plus hour slugfest. Ripoff Moon-A dumpster fire to the scabgiver. No wonder Netflix didn't promote the second film after the awful reactions to the first film. Bonkers😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Simplest summary of the duology. Part One is excrement on a plate. Part 2 is diarrhea on a plate.
Rebel Moon 2 is an Excellent movie and I totally enjoyed it and I love all those actors and I hope it makes millions and millions of dollars!!!!!
I know right, I swear Disney is paying people to write bad reviews.
You’re still the guy that shilled HARD for Forbes on Rings Of Power until you suddenly and mysteriously did a 180 near the end of the season and started telling the truth, retroactively condemning the show from the firsts minutes. Those same minutes you lavished with effusive praise weeks earlier.
You clearly have the ability to review movies and tv when you are willing to be honest. But how can anyone trust you until we get a ROP explanation? I’ve been waiting two years for you to reclaim some semblance of credibility.
what does you comment have to do with the fact that the movie was shit????? you have a crush on this guy or what
@bobbybotha3523
I’ll dumb it down for you as it is clearly needed: I DONT TRUST HIM. YOU SHOULDN'T TRUST HIM.
But because good critics are hard to find, I would like him to explain himself , and maybe I could trust him a little,going forward.
Lol I am amused that people this stupid exist on the internet. I've liked lots of shows at first that get worse later. It's actually a very common phenomenon! But hey, you can't fix stupid.
@Princess_Feona
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@ErikKain
You just didn’t think the show got worse. You went back and crucified the parts that you previously had praised. I just want you to admit that you got paid to say good things or Forbes made you.
I’ve read enough of your reviews to know that you didn’t think for a second that that garbage show was anything other than the total crap fest that it was.
And I know critics who did turn down offers from Amazon to review the show the way they wanted it to be reviewed. And I know one who was threatened.
The fact that I know you didn’t think the show was any good is actually a compliment whether you take it that way or not. I’m just wondering if you have the guts to come out and tell the truth about it.
The reviews are all still posted so anyone can go and see how are you changed your mind. It wasn’t just the show getting worse man, and you know it.
@@Princess_Feona I know I can never convince you otherwise so this will be the last time I engage with your creepy BS. I have always spoken my mind. Forbes doesn't tell me what to say, and only Forbes pays me for what I write. I enjoyed the show for a couple episodes. By episode 3 I could tell that things were not going the way I'd hoped. By episode 4 I could tell things were going very badly, which in turn made me rethink my initial impressions (which I left up, of course, because it's the ethical thing to do!) Ultimately, the show was a dumpster fire, but I formed that opinion as I watched. Not beforehand. Not immediately.
Great film 9/10
I could not make it through the movie it was so boring.
it's just pure trash 🗑️
It is lame ,cringey and slow!
Between zack and his inflated ego and the YES people that keep telling him his doing a great job and that the critics and audience are all a bunch of "Haters" i can see why he's going to continue to fail.
For me, Rebel Moon part 2 was a disappointing sequel that fails to live up to its potential. While the slowmo's of grain harvesting may appeal to sci-fi farmers fans, the corny dialogue and muddled narrative leave much to be desired. It's a shame that what seemed promising turned out to be a letdown, real letdown.
The man cannot write, but clearly he's incredible at lying at studio executives.
At least the movie wasn't as BORING as this review is. My GAWD you mind numbingly BORING!! Your pace is actually slower than Sniders slow motion.
Rebel moon 2 is a very good film everyone. Check it out