I was in the truth for 60 years. Brought 6 kids in with me. Now i reasearched my religion and found out how bad it is. Walked away and didnt look back. I was disfelloshipped last week but still have 2 sons still in. I pray that jehovah and jesus will open there eyes soon. Thank you for your videos
Bobbie, how many JWs prayed to Jehovah and they were helped? Not too many! Be very careful about praying to Jehovah. Mixing Jehovah and Jesus name together that is just as scary! Did you ever notice in the Trinity book WT compared Jesus with gods! It makes me wonder about their Jesus! Granted your Jesus is not WT Jesus but its the mixing! Take care and stay spiritually safe.
@@evisfree9639 I’m curious what you think. Many JW pray to Jehovah for stronger faith and things like this. 99%, Jehovah doesn’t wake up. What do you think is happening here.
@@d_e_a_n I think we can be stubborn, to a JW it’s out of the question to think Jehovah doesn’t want you, they will keep going to the meetings despite feeling something could be wrong, i did. When things happen that keeps people away, they rarely say its divine intervention because they’ve been taught to think it’s Satan that’s keeps you from the meetings. To believe maybe Jehovah doesn’t want them there is out of the question for them. They will feel rejected because they’ve been taught being a JW is the only way.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Fools and liars like you believe the lies, foolishness, false teachings and claims of the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the Born Agains, JWs, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, Methodists, and all religions in the world. Truthful and honest persons honor and obey the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments. Fools and liars like you who are mocking, defying and opposing the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments are worthless and useless persons who'll just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. ETERNAL DEATH, just dust on earth forever for fools and liars like you. Truthful and honest human beings who are submissive and obedient to the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments will live and exist happily and abundantly on earth forever. A HAPPY, ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth for truthful and honest persons.
Gary I noticed how you kind of chuckle when you state the erroneous dates in the false doctrines. I find myself doing the same thing!! I often shake my head and reflect on the joy I am experiencing in my freedom🎉
You two are such liars. Why don't you tell us what the website says on it? Here's an exert that's NOT FROM THE 70s. 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤. 'Spiritual education has greater value than secular education. Unlike secular education, Bible-based spiritual education provides the lifesaving knowledge of God. (John 17:3) It also teaches moral values-“what is righteous and just and fair, the entire course of what is good.” (Proverbs 2:9) The apostle Paul received what could be likened to a modern university education, yet he acknowledged “the excelling value of the knowledge of Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 3:8; Acts 22:3) Likewise TODAY, many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have received advanced secular education, yet they believe that their spiritual education has greater value.
JT and Lady Cee, You two are the best! For fifty years I was too afraid to examine critical thinking about the Watchtower Society. After all, the governing body warned us not to speak with the apostates that hang out at the conventions. Many times I wanted to have a conversation, but ashamed that a witness would see me. Somehow, a video popped up on RUclips and I was hooked. Furiously, I looked up every video regarding JW’s. It all began to make sense…. The lies, false prophecies, 1975, the overlapping generation, and the history of the organization. I’m no longer ashamed to do the necessary “critical thinking.” I was actually PIMO for a number of years before throwing in the towel. Wishing that I found out about your channel years ago, it would have saved me many sleepless nights and my sanity. Because of you, I can say that I recovered from this criminal enterprise . Thank you for the enlightenment I needed. Amen!
Yes JWs are not to be rubbing elbows with anyone with apostate views. I know that people with apostate view still have a chance but that chance will soon disappear. Satan has a smorgasbord of ideas fitting everyone's tastes.
This man has a gift of speech! He can articulate his thoughts very well. J.t and Lady C, what you guys are doing with this channel is very important. You guys really are doing a true service of love for mankind. Keep up the good work!
Wow! This has been so powerful! Thank you. JT & Lady Cee, for having Gary Alt on your show. I've been out of the cult since 1984 and I think the reason I see myself as an EXJW is because through unfortunate circumstance of serious illness, I am affected by my parent who is a current JW and my caretaker. On top of everything else I've gone through, I recently had a stroke. In therapy I realize that most of what I talk about is how I'm negatively affected by having been a JW. While I couldn't consider myself a JW, it seems that having ever been one, my whole life is colored by it and it's hard to separate myself from it. but Gary helped me see that I'm an exJW like an ex employee of a former company I worked for... no longer should I be defined by that. Thank you all for bringing this out.
Gary this interview was like dèjâ vù for me as far as what I call "conditional" friendships ... I had tried having a conversation with a woman that "brought" this to me ... She wanted to know/listen to the "why I don't wanna be a part of Jehovah's organization" but she really didn't care she just wanted to tell me why I should "come back to the organization, I mean Jehovah, I mean organization" 🤣🤣🤣 and she couldn't talk to me because she chooses Jehovah and until I make the same choice this is the way it has to be. My response was "Well, we've been friends for more than 20yrs BEFORE this and I love you UNCONDITIONALLY and when you realize that it's definitely NOT the truth, I'll still welcome you with OPEN arms and heart!" That was 6months ago ... 🤣😂😂😂 Great job once again JT and Cathy
Thank you for sharing your story Gary. It's hard for people who have family left inside of the organization because of the shunning policy. Thank you JT and Lady Cee for your continued activism exposing this horrible Cult.
I'm laughing about your comment because honestly there were times the really reminded me of The Stephard Wives you know that deer in headlight in their eyes 👀 😅
Very true. A big part of what makes it so difficult is the realization that you were in a cult at one time in your life. That’s a difficult thing. It’s a very hard pill to swallow. It’s humiliating and embarrassing. It’s like when you beat yourself up for falling for the wrong person in spite of all the red flags you saw and then sitting there in the aftermath with the pain and harm that person caused. Very similar feeling. I applaud you for coming to this realization. It’s a huge step in your journey.
thanks for this information because i am a born in fir over 55 years. i have a brother who is an elder and two other brothers and a sister. i love them dearly. i have not gone to any meetings in almost 2 years but i know i need to move on. thank you
A M, it is hard to leave after so many years. Hopefully your brothers and sisters will follow you out of this oppressive organization. I wish you the best!! 🌷
WOW, these interviews just keep getting more and more amazing. He made some very interesting and incredibly thought-provoking points which had me deeply pondering how I might be defining myself since leaving the cult. .Thank you JT and Lady C. Really appreciate.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Fools and liars like you believe the lies, foolishness, false teachings and claims of the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the Born Agains, JWs, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, Methodists, and all religions in the world. Truthful and honest persons honor and obey the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments. Fools and liars like you who are mocking, defying and opposing the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments are worthless and useless persons who'll just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. ETERNAL DEATH, just dust on earth forever for fools and liars like you. Truthful and honest human beings who are submissive and obedient to the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments will live and exist happily and abundantly on earth forever. A HAPPY, ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth for truthful and honest persons.
My aunt who doesn't really talk to me anymore when my mother told her I watch shows like this would always tell me that we are born with a spiritual need and this is what causes people with talent and intelligence to fall for a thing like this. It never turned the light bulb on for me it was always too many holes and the way my aunts would scream and get all frustrated and tell me to just go along with it when I would insist on certain questions. Now it seems like those people weren't as smart as they seemed and some of them nowadays sound really like a brainwashed person and it's sad.
Yep, amazing how the most studious JW can sound so smart when they would recite a bible account with exact dates and the moral of the story. I used to be so intimidated by that b/c I am not that kind of student. But then when they start signing Jeehooovab name like a parrot and insist that you believe w/o questioning and sign praised to the GB and the paradise life, they really are robots on fear. Just learning form memory to repeat the doom and praises that the magazines tell them. Just not so smart. And it does get easier to life w/o that family member who rejects you.
@@sammyytube5999 I was never baptized, but studied with aunt's, attended the hall when I visited, lived with grands, aunt wanted me to study and be a big, handsome elder, take out family all the way up to the top, don't I want to see all of them in the ressurection, grandmother & grandfather, you know better, Adrian, but I never baptized. I did look into it and had my own tragedies, but found taking responsibility did me just fine
It. Ay depend how strong one is. Have been a jw 7years, all of my spiritual, and music talent are in tact. Researching and cross checking. Not afraid to still vote, (sometimes) still remember my birthday and my non jw families birthday.the key, is to remain as detached as possible, without causing alarm. I enjoy learning, but discard what I do not accept, and keep it to myself.
@@alexandriamancheck3474 Very good. This is what I had to learn after waking up and having to be PIMO for a while. Prior, I was already detached from JW friends but had to keep up appearance at boring meetings and service so not to look less spiritual and avoid guilty feelings. Now that it all makes sense with the "real truth" being detached from those friends works until I'm able to physically move. No more guilt in secretly remembering family's Bday and mothers day. Will ALWAYS continue to use my god given intelligence to research whatever I please outside of the org to feed myself mentally and physically. Be unashamed of doing hybrid meetings (not all in person) and not identify myself as JW in public. All can be done w/o causing alarm while making some sacrifice to appear less spiritual in JW world although it has nothing to do with salvation only by means of Christ. You just have to learn to give yourself permission to keep all to yourself and remember you don't owe an answer to anyone even elders. May it continue to go well for you until the day that you are ready to break free completely.
@@sammyytube5999 what an inspiration, you are, abd I needed your words, today I love .God and his .Son, taught by my parents. I enjoy learning, but have learned all I want to, from this organization. Whatever I feel or think that is not in line, I keep to myself. It has never been my intentions to undermine anyone,Yvette,bi am more aware of hidden anger and hatred more than ever. Anger, can never be disguised, it reveals itself, and who, one way or another. Thank you, so much! YOY really made my day. God be with you, always.🇺🇸🦅
I was never a JWs and my only experience with their church was agreeing to do Bible Studies with them in college. This lasted several months and ended when I graduated and moved back home. These were very awkward Bible Studies because the JWs never answered any of my critical thinking questions...not even one! They often tried to rush through lessons knowing a critical question 🙋 would come up. I would ask a question and then total silence! After the silence they'll say, "You know due to limited time let's not get off course or we'll research and address that for next week studies" What they could not get was that I sincerely wanted to understand their teachings but more importantly wanted clarification and irrefutable proof directly from the Bible which ironically one was never opened. It was all digital literature from an iPad and click this verse here. I realized that I was receiving a lot of answers that couldn't be questioned and had a lot of questions they wouldn't answer. In conclusion I could never join a group or church were I could not question their teachings for further clarification or understanding. It's literally a form of mind control at that point if I did.
@@queue555 It's extremely hard for me to believe that any organization that makes a very "serious claim" that they are God's only true religion on Earth and members are incapable of providing solid and irrefutable proof to the validity of doctrines from The Holy Bible. In other words its safe to say an active baptized JWs should be able to provide supporting scriptures on their doctrines that I can read for myself and examine to come to the same "Truth" of JWs beliefs. Q. Does everything that JWs teach come solely from The Holy Bible and nothing else? I only want a Yes or a No.
@@anonymousprofessor8866 Yes that's the only place. And it has to be some group of people, I can see the ' spiritual Israel' aspect after the Jews were rejected, and they don't say they're the only ones to be saved either. My jw friend of 11 years says ' if I left where would I go?'. And I can't answer her as I know that mainstream Christianity went off the rails. It's all hypocrisy out there you see it all the time. Just like the Bible says. At least they try to stay united which I suppose they should as God had organisation didn't he. Plus what happens after armeggdon? You can't have all this division and people doing their own thing as that hasn't worked. How you gonna get paradise on earth?
@@queue555 I pray for you and hope you wake up and understand this comment.. Imagine you were a young innocent and happy child in the 1st grade and you started to learn math. Your teacher taught 1+1=2. Then one day another teacher opposed to school systems claimed to be Gods only true "Educators" convinced your parents to have you taught by them instead. Now 1+1= 144,000. Those who believed this would get paradise earth and a Star sticker. I am absolutely 100% totally SURE that JWs is NOT "The Truth" Why? Simply because No JWs on Earth can open up a Holy Bible and prove to me through scriptures alone Jesus choice a small group of Bible Students in "1919" to be Jehovah's one true religion on Earth!!! This critical teaching and belief is equivalent to 1+1 = 144,000, if you are a critical thinker.
@@queue555 I have asked several JWs for the scriptures to prove that in 1919 Jesus choice a small group of Bible Students to be Jehovah's One and Only true religion on Earth. If everything that JWs teach and believe comes from the Bible and the Bible alone then a JWs should be able to provide me those 1919 scriptures so I can come to their same conclusion. Do you understand my issue?
It STILL Amazes me , how MANY Intelligent 👨🏾🎓and Talented people👩🏫 . . Fell for This Nonsense😝 . . back in the 1950's 60's and 70's ( Including my own family🙆🏻♂️ ) who went on to Sacrifice Much over the Decades ( and Still do ❗ 🤦)
I have been out of the cult for many years. I moved on with my life so many years ago. Sure the cult is still in my mind as a memory. But, they have no control over me. There is nothing they can do to me. They are just part of my history. People that I used to know. In fact it has been so long, that I would never recognize any of them, even if I walked right by them. They wouldn't recognize me either. Too much water under the bridge. So that is nice. I get on these web sites just to see if the cult is still the same as when I was in. If the cult is worse or not. I find it just amazing that basically it's just as wacky as when I was in. It hasn't changed! I am also amazed that my father got involved in this cult. My mother I could see. She was easily influenced. If it wouldn't have been the jehovah witnesses it would have been some other cult. The jehovah witnesses just found her first. My father never became an elder. He just wasn't interested in doing that and he was never asked. That being said, he would never believe anything negative about anyone leading the cult. They were the faithful and discreet slave for Christ's sake!! So that proved that they were ,,,,,,,,,,,,holy! They had the red phone, the hot line, to jehovah. To this day it's hard for me to believe that he would ever get involved with a cult. But he did.
When I was on the verge of leaving (just before walking out that door for the last time), I observed this Organization the way an outsider would observe it. In words of one syllable: I did NOT like what I saw.
Exactly I got disfellowshipped walked out the door that night and never stepped foot in the congregation again. I didn’t care what others thought of me. I had my freedom to do what I wanted being pulled into the backroom to get grilled over something that was none of their business to begin with.
@@marwatson7408 : I didn't get disfellowshipped, but apparently right after receiving my "letter of introduction", I started getting really shabby treatment (I had just relocated to a different Congregation). They started treating me as if I wasn't there. NO explanation...NO NOTHING. That made my decision an easy one. If they were going to treat me as if I don't exist (complete ignorance of my presence...as if I were invisible)...then I saw no reason WHATSOEVER to be there. I left in mid- meeting...and never looked back. TO THIS DAY...they never sought me out, never looked for me. That's when I said to myself: "Screw 'em...they're not worth the time.
I did the same thing. I looked around y hall and said to “Jehovah “, if these are the people who will be in charge of the new world after Armageddon, I don’t want any part of it. I don’t know how any of your halls were but I was in a back stabbing, gossip filled one. The elders and their wives were the worst. There were more bad people than good. I felt bad for the good people I wouldn’t be able to speak with again.
Great Video guys. My husband is out now too and preparing to submit his “DISASSOCIATION” letter. I’m so thankful for you and your hard work. The advocacy is so needed to help as many escape. Sadly, not everyone wants to be “saved” but for those who do……..y’all have made it easy and mentally stable, for one to do so.
That’s such a pertinent expression Mr Alt uses when he says “failure driven”. That’s the biggest control mechanism this org uses. So many when they step out have absolutely nothing so of course many don’t. Most can’t even explain the doctrines. The minute you examine them they fall to pieces so many don’t dare.
What he keeps saying is that the brotherhood was a "SHAM" not a "SCAM" Not that it's not both, by the way! 'cause it truly is!!! it's sooooo crazy! it's unthinkable! we ever fell for it!
Definitely a scam. They prey on the fact that you want family and close friends and provide that for you as long as you're doing what they want. Once you express doubt they disappear and drop you like a hot potato. Smh
Another great life experience! Gary's closing comments are really on point. I really liked the questions you guys asked as well. Truly are looking out for the benefit of your audience ❤.
Im starting to think that the only people interested in jw teachings are ex JW's. Most jws that want to return to Kingdom hall's is to meet friends and family. They seem to care little about jw teachings.
The reason they go is for spiritual building up and being with like-minded people. What's wrong with that? They're not slandering these two idiots who are making money off slandering others. They could actually go after this JT moron by using their logo and selling mugs and tshirts ( that's how desperate they are for money) but he knows they probably won't. So who's the righteous one here?
@John S. Yep when I got into org I thought strange congregations are cold and member's are not developing a Christ like personality. They are in org for the companionship. Took me a will to understand that 😁. Watchtower depict congregation as very loving in there magazine. It's a bit of fraud.
Wow!!! What a testimony! Came to JW’s on his own, no family involved, going out in service and spent decades in the organization before finally getting out….I’m amazed. 😳 And I’m only 13 mins into this interview! 🤯 I’m so impressed…..can’t wait to get to finish listening, I’m at the edge of my seat! 👏
During one of my judicial meetings, the elders actually encouraged me to leave my wife because she was spiritual danger to me and so I did. Then they use this as one of the reasons to df me aside from not believing in their bs doctrines. They set people up for failure once they are “marked” and hold it against them. Its disgusting
Thank you for your channel and great interview. Your channel has helped with deal and cope with leaving the organization. Your changing lives -- people are truly waking up.
You just reminded me of how much of a joke the Revelation Climax book is with all those "trumpet blasts" by JF Rutherford. I remember conducting the book study at that time and how hard it was not to laugh at it while trying to teach it.
@@beautyRest1 Very true. And the thing is it's really not a "religion" -- it's more like a glorified book club membership exclusive association under the guise of theology.
@@larpsim I’m still listening to your story. I’m still in, pimo, for reasons you can imagne. But I plan to fade. I wont let them disfellowship me, cause they are not over me and have no authority over me.
Conditional relationships only allow stunted growth. The true value of an individual is overlooked to fit into a preconceived mold that ignores the abilities and growth opportunities of humans. Ever notice that only a minority of attendees comment, most have to be coaxed and pushed out into field service? The good attributes of many are overlooked because they don't feel comfortable with field service and seldom comment.
Galatians 6:10 says "let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith." I learned the hard way that ends when you actually need help.
What a great interview! When you can look back with some compassion and understanding for those still trapped in this ideology, you’ve taken your power back. Dont give it away to anyone again. That’s true freedom.
They only apply the noble minded Bereans scripture to new recruits to pull them from other religions. After the recruit has been indoctrinated that scripture is rarely ever used again for them personally.
Gary Alt was wonderful. I love his attitude about life. I admire his ambition in life. He made wonderful points about the JW's. I was one for 6 years. I don't miss them and care about them.
Yeah, I remember reading older publications to bolster my faith, only for it to do the opposite. I read studies in the scriptures and was blown away with how different the theology was back in CT era then it is now. I also remember rereading the revelation book to prove to myself that the witnesses interpretation was correct, I got about 1/4 ways through and it dawned on me that everything I was reading was pure nonsense. They were literally taking uneventful moments in a small cult and trying to use those moments in history as proof of scriptural prophecy being fulfilled. But you can do that with any religion at any time period in history , and write a story line about how this is fulfillment of bible prophecy. It's all nonsense at the end of the day.
The 7 trumpets being fulfilled in J.F. Rutherford's talks at assemblies was just embarrassing. As an elder conducting the book study, I would be thinking to myself "am I the only one who see that all this is BS?".
You could look up the contextual meaning, it is quite clear, that and many other things… the preterist perspective should at least be considered before you assume that’s what everyone does. Several scholars who actually know about Mesopotamia shed light on much of the worldview disconnect , NT Wright, David Bentley Hall, and Dr. Micheal Heiser work takes into consideration Mesopotamian context for imagery as well, the Sumerian , Kemetic=Egyptian , and Assyrian background all provides much insight into a culture which was not talking about what we have anachronistically projected onto the text. I for one have studied the ancient mystery schools which still remember how Mythos is used, it’s a matter of correspondences. Anyone can project their own correspondences, but only when one is ignorant or bedarkened to the cultural contextual correspondence.
I was dfd going to book study and could not figure out why people believed the Revelation book! I mean five angels represents Jesus. Every page was nonsense! Russell giving spiritual food to living 144,000!
Gary I’m glad you made it out! My dad was a musician too. I’m guessing you play guitar? Welcome to your freedom! That was a great interview Lady C and JT 😊
I always view the inclusion of celebrities with skepticism. Most of them still carry on with their personal lives that still includes hobnobbing with music companies, film studios and all the personnel that goes along with that. Celebrities are cash cows and Watchtower will not risk losing those benefits by criticizing them. How else can the Williams sisters in tennis get away with their sleazy clothes and half naked photoshoots? Any other JW woman would be harangued and hounded to death for such blatant behaviour.
@@joanferguson4194 No they wouldn't. It's not up to us to judge what they do outside a KH. No KH gets money nor accepts money just because someone is a celebrity. Satan's world is full of influences. It's doing a wonder on these two yahoos who are busy slandering the JWs to make money off it. You think they're doing this from a good heart? 🤷.
This helps me witness to my sister in law. She and her family are all in. They even had a man from the GB and his wife stay with them when they visited Seattle. My heart aches for them and I pray for them and when I try to open a discussion with her about what I'm learning in Bible study fellowship where we are studying Matthew this year, she shuts me down real quick.
The point Gary made at 9:50 shows exactly why we shouldn't go off at them, as frustrating as it is . It will get you no where and only firm up their resolve .
Gary, I know so many of your old peers at Bethel and know firsthand the politics you referenced. All to a person were absolutely the worst men I have ever known, and yet like you I was obedient in spite of everything my own eyes were seeing. Thank goodness what we are now awake and being the best version of ourselves.
We have had to put up with elders who spread gossip with out knowing the facts, lie slander and revile their Christian brothers with out consequences. The bible says to remove such ones from your midst. The elders just say to "Leave it to Jehovah."
I love his thinking. I was wondering if to send in a letter, and then I said "what a min, did I ever sign a contract?" but then I thought "well, I might as well turn in my letter for them to count me out of their numbers." I'm grieving, but also viewing it as a chapter of my life that's closed. I made a video for RUclips and am privatizing it for the next year and creating 3 mo check-ins to remind myself of how I healed from being indoctrinated my entire life. I will NOT feel bad and no talk to a JW that says hi to me in a store, I'm just an outside "worldly" person not causing any harm or pushing my private agenda on anyone. I'm simply a human that wants curtesy and respect. I love that you have this channel, because I felt so alone. I can't imagine what you guys felt back in the day when RUclips and Reddit++ where not available. I loveeee this channel, and I'm so glad you're sharing the damaging effects this cults fails to communicate to its members. I will NOT be another suicide number. I refuse to.
This brother's way of thinking was the same as mine! as i had to accept their reasoning that it would take a thousand years for each one to achieve perfection! wow! eh?
20:45 I completely understand that observation where attempts are made to bend these grand points in the Revelation to fit only the actions of none other than and how farfetched such attempts seemed; eg: that the sting in the locusts' tail refers to the tracts\material left behind by witnesses which hurt people 5 months (or for a time); but in each case, their attempts to make these grand Revelation events fit activities greatly watered down what the Revelation is actually saying. We see this manipulation of the Revelation also in the case of the 2 Witnesses in Revelation 11, all the great events written about, such as the death of the 2 witnesses, their resurrection, the loud voice booming from heaven saying ''come on up here'', their ascension into heaven in a cloud, the massive earthquake that follows, the number who die as a result, ALL these points, in order to make them specifically fit activities they are all watered-down as not reeeeally happening as the Revelation states it, but it was AS IF it happened in this way.. And mistranslates such Scripture text because they know very well that they cannot honestly claim that such great events have happened to witnesses. Therefore, the 2 witnesses\prophets were not literally killed by the beast of the deep pit, and so God did not actually resurrect them, they did not actually get called into heaven before the very eyes of terrified onlookers, there was no literal earthquake, 7000 or so did not actually die..., this is ALL redefined and explained as *IT WAS AS IF* they died, it was as if they were called into heaven etc, but it didn't really happen as the Revelation states. I found these interpretations quite disturbing and dishonest. And after speaking to eg Elders about it, they would say ''well look what it says in the beginning of the book ...'' BUT, I have a problem with that because this book - ''Revelation: The Grand Climax at Hand'' - was used in the weekly Book Studies and taught as TRUTH.
Have been out for decades but still follow the ex-JW community for talking points with my JW family. Was quite surprised to watch that 2019 video with David Splane where they finally admitted that their decades long belief about the locusts mentioned in the OT book of Amos and Revelation chapter nine was a “misunderstanding” because the context clearly identifies these locusts as an evil and destructive plague and not a prophecy about the preaching work of modern day JWs. Splane even blamed Jehovah for their erroneous teaching saying he didn’t make the true meaning known to them until that point in 2019 because it wasn’t time for it!!! Yet the context of those scriptures was clear and unmistakably plain to even the most intellectually challenged. But as usual, the rank and file do not care about any of this and just shrug it off
Wait until They do a Body count , at the up and coming Memorial !! 🙄 Plus figuring out how many🤔 . . Didn't choose to Return . . to the Regular meetings ! 😮
Gary talked about things we CAN control, vs things we can't, and focusing on the former rather than the latter - That's a key element of Stoicism. It's something everyone should do, and it makes life SO much easier.
Very nice interview and I enjoyed the fact that he stressed living life now and leaving the past behind. Greatly talented person who is not being held back.
Thanks Gary for sharing your story! I am still going through the different phases of sadness, anger, and struggling with a bit of depression on some days. When I think I’m over it all something triggers me and I experience guilt or one of the other already mentioned phases. I appreciate you stating that it is normal to go through them over again. I feel better just learning that! My goal is to get to the place where I don’t see myself as an EXJW - my mom was baptized when I was three years old so it feels as if I was born into it. I do remember Christmas presents but they were probably after being three because I recall my mom accepting them for me but not letting me open them until months later. She thought that was okay to do, but it was horrible for me to see them daily. A big temptation for sure LOL.
I just found out through my sister that they have go bags ready in case they have to flee. Anyone heard of this? My mother is still in. We all got out. My sister talks to her. Mom wont talk to me because im an apostate. So thats always fun.
Yes it’s a real thing. An elder called me very recently about in person meetings. He brought up the go bags and how the Ukrainian JWs were ready to flee the conflict.
Excellent information positive and encouraging. I think for most (not meaning child sexual abuse ) having to get out of the I am a victim of WT mentality can stunt the progress.
It’s ironic that his skill was computer programming cause as a preteen I built autonomous robots and knowing how electricity flows is an absolute science. Programming a computer is an absolute science. Some of my favorite robots to build were called BEAM robots. You don’t need batteries or software. You just build a simple logic circuit. The robot charges the capacitors through a solar panel and depending on which diode is receiving the most light when the capacitor is charged the robot discharges the opposite motor to move it tword the light. My point is.. it’s allotta people in the JW community that have to to use “IF .. Then” logic to write software or make circuits but don’t see the flaws in JW logic. 🤦🏾♂️
I had the same experience when I was told about their interpretation of certain verses in Revelation. I was studying with a woman who was a full time minister and her friend, who professed to be of the 144,000 anointed ones. I was just a kid then but had a profound WTF moment about these interpretations. And like most who wanted this religion to be the Truth, I shrugged it off and told myself these things would all be dealt with one day. So I went along with it. Then my father violently objected to my mother and I studying! Of course I took this to be a clear and unmistakable sign of the persecution JWs would experience because they had The Truth! Woke up 16 years later and the realized I wasn’t too shocked about “the truth about the truth” because I’d been through several mini wake-up calls during that time. What did shock me was realizing I’d been in an altered state of brain-fog all that time. So waking up and going to college was actually exhilarating! I took the shunning as the price I was willing to pay to be free.
A huge problem that I have is when the governing body said that if we don’t listen to them it’s like not listening to Jehovah, and they teach us not to say anything if disagree with them, we will be labeled an apostate if we disagree with them. It was then that I realized, that they have sat themselves in the seat of God, and nobody said anything about this because we are taught not to question or disagree with the governing body. My major problem is with the Christian congregation. Most Christians are not walking in the way of Christ according to the first three chapters of Revelations
When the Elders began working with my wife behind my back, I sensed someone was influencing her. But she was A Devout Catholic, so naturally I thought it was someone in the Catholic Church. I never dreamed it was the Elder's I'm my Congregation. But one thing I did was decided to keep my 457 retirement money hidden from her. I increased my monthly donation to $400 a month and went with a high risk investment program. I knew something was wrong so I recorded each instance where her attitude showed disrespect for the marriage. And then just did not rock the boat. So when she gave my financial,s to the Elders they had no idea I had 45thousand in my 457 plan. So when I had a major surgery, she came but was not so supportive, when I woke up in recovery she was not there anymore. I was alone. I will always remember one Elder who was suppose to encourage me, told me he could not wait to drive by my homeless tent on the way to meetings. And I thought why would you say that to anyone, because at the time I still did not know the involvement the Elders were having with my Catholic wife. Then of course the comment you deserve what you get for marrying out of the truth! Little did they know at 61 I had already set up my retirement with Social Security and really just had to sit tight for a few months. So once January came I informed them I was flying to Africa! They told me I could not, and I told them try to stop me! I was just told at that time they would ruin me. What they didn't know was where in Africa I was going. So I told them Kenya, which was a lie, I was really going to West Africa as I had already paid a years rent and my future pioneer wife had already rented my compound for a year. Brother Alts experience with his wife sounds very familiar, his wife was working with another brother or Elders in the Congregation, probably already having sex with the Brother. That is how they do it. But for sure a plan to leave Brother Alt homeless. So it took them another 4 years to disfellowship me and my pioneer wife. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I researched as well with the motive to strengthen my faith, the opposite happened, particularly trying to discuss with elders. D/Fd for apostasy in Feb 2021.
I am an ex-JW for 5 years. When I had my first JW Bible study, my instructor, she asked me did I know who the Israelites were, and I said no. So she said that I had to know who they are before reading any JW because she said that the entire Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, is about the Israelites, the "Chosen People" of The Most High God of Israel. She took me through the Bible, from Genesis to Proverb. I learned all about those Israelites and the way "TMHGOI" love his Chosen People, ( Deuteronomy 7: 6) and the way he fought for them even though they were hard headed, stubborn, rebellious, and stiffneck people, but he still love them. And God said that Israelites are forever even, eternity because of his promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. After that, she went back into JW publications and I never heard about the Israelites again. She took a different route at that point. About 60 years later, on Social Media, I came across a Video that said that the Negroes, African Americans are the True Ancient Hebrew Israelites of the Seed of the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob from Tribe of JUDAH from Jerusalem, Israel. I began listening to so many Videos who gave me Confirmation that We, Negroes are from their "Seed". Our Bloodline, Nationality, Heritage are the Hebrew Israelites of Ancient Jerusalem, Israel. I left Kingdom immediately! never went back. Because the Israelites said that our God of Israel gave his "Chosen People" Israel, his Laws, Statues, and Commandments, not Religion, Christianity, nor Islam. (Ps. 147: 19, 20). Kingdom Hall JW teaches that the Laws are done away with, which is a lie, because the God of Israel did not give his Laws to ESAU (White Man). He gave his Laws, Statues and Commandments to Jacob (Israel) he did not do so to any other people. Also, He did not do away with his Children, the Israelites. He had them in Slavery for 400 years in America. (Gen. 15: 13, 14) in which the so-called Negroes, African Americans served.(1619-2019). Have you noticed, "All Hell is Now Breaking Out". The God of the Children of Israel is coming back to get his beloved "Chosen People" to return them to their Land that he promised their Forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.(Deuteronomy 7:6, and Deuteronomy Chapter 28 "The Sign that African Americans and all Negroes scattered to the four corners of the earth. (Jere. 23:3, 4, 8), (Deuteronomy 30: 1-14). Jehovah's Witness New World Order is this USA GOVERNMENT NWO UNDER SATAN. JW Organization is a Free Mason system under Satan. Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd Degree Free Mason a worshipper of Satan. D O YOUR RESEARCH!!! Every Prophet, including Christ are Black people. Read in the King James Version 1611 with the Apocrypha (Books Europeans took out of the Bible) Jeremiah 14:2), Rev. 1: 14), Job 30: 30) (Jere. 8: 21), (Song of Solomon 1:5). The Bible is the History of the Negroes only!!! God's Chosen Nation. Israel is Forever!!! JW has LIED.
@John S. OMG and I've been indoctrinated into that cult they say my religion the episcopal church is a false religion that Trinity is false I was not a JW but I made bible study with them I have an half sister in this organisation or cult don't know what to tell it #confused
This doesnt sound very loving to me.It sounds divisive.As people of the earth we should stop seeing others as enemies.Until we stop saying things like "we are the chosen one"we will never get true harmony.
How I wish a Witness never knocked on my Grandma's door in the 1940s. Converting my grandma devastated our family for 3 generations!!! So much collateral damage and trauma. Just 1 conversion can cause SO MUCH HURT to GENERATIONS of families.
That is such an important point that people who come out of high control groups should not keep defining themselves by that group. I'm sure the temptation to do that is very strong, especially for the born in or raised in. And I can totally see why that would be. They were in a community for a long period of time and were largely defined by that community. So in leaving, it is common and understandable to then connect with others who have also left and formed their own community. And that's actually a good thing. But at the same time, it shouldn't be a defining feature of a person's life anymore, lest it give that organization continued power in any way over their lives. I faced the same temptation when I was first diagnosed with a serious chronic illness. I let it define me for a time as I joined communities of others who also had the same condition. But now I recognize it has nothing to do with who I am. It's something I struggle with, that's it.
While I somewhat agree with him on the brotherhood point , my personal experience is that some have stayed my friends ( while strained ) while others have completely rejected me .
"the brotherhood is nothing but a sham"- thats exactly right. Theres a quote that goes something like " if you lose someone that doesnt respect or appreciate you, its not a loss, its a gain" If anything leaving this religion has taught me, is not to depend on anyone. Theyve made us strong and self sufficient. Bump them.
Luke 17:21 - neither shall they say , look here ! Or look there ! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you. To anyone reading and looking for something deeper or Truth. All the answers that you need are inside of you. What we call life is something far more amazing and beautiful than we’ve been taught, you are far more powerful than you been taught. Every answer you seek is within you , don’t just believe me search for yourself. Ask yourself why is this thing called life even here and what’s the purpose for it ? Also ask who am I underneath all the labels and stories that have been told to me since birth? Isn’t it true that you knew nothing when you were born and anything that you know was Taught to you by someone else. Seek and you will find. thank you for reading this 🙏🤟
control is not the point the issue is what type of control the brand of control. A stop sign is control and a good control so the question is really not about control itself but is it good control or bad control
Your videos are awesome! You are both beautiful people inside and out and it would be awesome if you didn’t have to share your screens with ginormous microphones. Is it possible to move them off to the side of or off screen? Thank you for all you do.
It was a pattern from FWFranz' mind. Freddie passed and no more types and anti-types (those were the "limb" that the Society was sitting on, when they got rid of that, they lost their real claim to uniqueness). The Org is a literature distribution plan.
I was in the truth for 60 years. Brought 6 kids in with me. Now i reasearched my religion and found out how bad it is. Walked away and didnt look back. I was disfelloshipped last week but still have 2 sons still in. I pray that jehovah and jesus will open there eyes soon. Thank you for your videos
Bobbie, how many JWs prayed to Jehovah and they were helped? Not too many!
Be very careful about praying to Jehovah. Mixing Jehovah and Jesus name together that is just as scary!
Did you ever notice in the Trinity book WT compared Jesus with gods! It makes me wonder about their Jesus!
Granted your Jesus is not WT Jesus but its the mixing! Take care and stay spiritually safe.
@@user-jo6fm3vn4e I prayed to Jehovah for help, that’s when I woke up tbh. He is still GOD, just not what we’ve been taught.
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I’m curious what you think. Many JW pray to Jehovah for stronger faith and things like this. 99%, Jehovah doesn’t wake up. What do you think is happening here.
@@d_e_a_n I think we can be stubborn, to a JW it’s out of the question to think Jehovah doesn’t want you, they will keep going to the meetings despite feeling something could be wrong, i did. When things happen that keeps people away, they rarely say its divine intervention because they’ve been taught to think it’s Satan that’s keeps you from the meetings. To believe maybe Jehovah doesn’t want them there is out of the question for them. They will feel rejected because they’ve been taught being a JW is the only way.
@@evisfree9639 No Jehovah is an asshole and Jesus Christ is his Son of a bitch!
Excellent Excellent interview. SO GLAD THAT SO MANY ARE WAKING UP AND SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCES.
Are waking up to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14????????
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Shaka Zulu ! 🙆
Their Waking up to You and Your Foolishness 🤪. 💩 🤭
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Fools and liars like you believe the lies, foolishness, false teachings and claims of the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the Born Agains, JWs, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, Methodists, and all religions in the world.
Truthful and honest persons honor and obey the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments.
Fools and liars like you who are mocking, defying and opposing the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments are worthless and useless persons who'll just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
ETERNAL DEATH, just dust on earth forever for fools and liars like you.
Truthful and honest human beings who are submissive and obedient to the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments will live and exist happily and abundantly on earth forever.
A HAPPY, ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth for truthful and honest persons.
@@vusimngomezulu2500Yup Jesus is the only way to God.
Gary I noticed how you kind of chuckle when you state the erroneous dates in the false doctrines. I find myself doing the same thing!! I often shake my head and reflect on the joy I am experiencing in my freedom🎉
You two are such liars. Why don't you tell us what the website says on it? Here's an exert that's NOT FROM THE 70s. 💤💤💤💤💤💤💤.
'Spiritual education has greater value than secular education. Unlike secular education, Bible-based spiritual education provides the lifesaving knowledge of God. (John 17:3) It also teaches moral values-“what is righteous and just and fair, the entire course of what is good.” (Proverbs 2:9) The apostle Paul received what could be likened to a modern university education, yet he acknowledged “the excelling value of the knowledge of Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 3:8; Acts 22:3) Likewise TODAY, many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have received advanced secular education, yet they believe that their spiritual education has greater value.
Amen
You interviews not only help exJW's but also those of us who have never been a JW, so thank you doing these interviews.
JT and Lady Cee,
You two are the best! For fifty years I was too afraid to examine critical thinking about the Watchtower Society. After all, the governing body warned us not to speak with the apostates that hang out at the conventions. Many times I wanted to have a conversation, but ashamed that a witness would see me. Somehow, a video popped up on RUclips and I was hooked. Furiously, I looked up every video regarding JW’s. It all began to make sense…. The lies, false prophecies, 1975, the overlapping generation, and the history of the organization. I’m no longer ashamed to do the necessary “critical thinking.” I was actually PIMO for a number of years before throwing in the towel. Wishing that I found out about your channel years ago, it would have saved me many sleepless nights and my sanity. Because of you, I can say that I recovered from this criminal enterprise . Thank you for the enlightenment I needed. Amen!
Yes JWs are not to be rubbing elbows with anyone with apostate views. I know that people with apostate view still have a chance but that chance will soon disappear. Satan has a smorgasbord of ideas fitting everyone's tastes.
This man has a gift of speech! He can articulate his thoughts very well. J.t and Lady C, what you guys are doing with this channel is very important. You guys really are doing a true service of love for mankind. Keep up the good work!
Wow! This has been so powerful! Thank you. JT & Lady Cee, for having Gary Alt on your show. I've been out of the cult since 1984 and I think the reason I see myself as an EXJW is because through unfortunate circumstance of serious illness, I am affected by my parent who is a current JW and my caretaker. On top of everything else I've gone through, I recently had a stroke. In therapy I realize that most of what I talk about is how I'm negatively affected by having been a JW. While I couldn't consider myself a JW, it seems that having ever been one, my whole life is colored by it and it's hard to separate myself from it. but Gary helped me see that I'm an exJW like an ex employee of a former company I worked for... no longer should I be defined by that. Thank you all for bringing this out.
Gary this interview was like dèjâ vù for me as far as what I call "conditional" friendships ... I had tried having a conversation with a woman that "brought" this to me ... She wanted to know/listen to the "why I don't wanna be a part of Jehovah's organization" but she really didn't care she just wanted to tell me why I should "come back to the organization, I mean Jehovah, I mean organization" 🤣🤣🤣 and she couldn't talk to me because she chooses Jehovah and until I make the same choice this is the way it has to be. My response was "Well, we've been friends for more than 20yrs BEFORE this and I love you UNCONDITIONALLY and when you realize that it's definitely NOT the truth, I'll still welcome you with OPEN arms and heart!" That was 6months ago ... 🤣😂😂😂 Great job once again JT and Cathy
Thank you for sharing your story Gary. It's hard for people who have family left inside of the organization because of the shunning policy. Thank you JT and Lady Cee for your continued activism exposing this horrible Cult.
Great interview! Thank you
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Accepting them as a cult was the hardest thing I had to do but they really are!!
I'm laughing about your comment because honestly there were times the really reminded me of The Stephard Wives you know that deer in headlight in their eyes 👀 😅
Very true. A big part of what makes it so difficult is the realization that you were in a cult at one time in your life. That’s a difficult thing. It’s a very hard pill to swallow. It’s humiliating and embarrassing. It’s like when you beat yourself up for falling for the wrong person in spite of all the red flags you saw and then sitting there in the aftermath with the pain and harm that person caused. Very similar feeling. I applaud you for coming to this realization. It’s a huge step in your journey.
Cults are secretive. Jw publicly proclaim their message. They hide nothing
thanks for this information because i am a born in fir over 55 years. i have a brother who is an elder and two other brothers and a sister. i love them dearly. i have not gone to any meetings in almost 2 years but i know i need to move on. thank you
A M, it is hard to leave after so many years. Hopefully your brothers and sisters will follow you out of this oppressive organization.
I wish you the best!! 🌷
WOW, these interviews just keep getting more and more amazing. He made some very interesting and incredibly thought-provoking points which had me deeply pondering how I might be defining myself since leaving the cult. .Thank you JT and Lady C. Really appreciate.
Leaving to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14????????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Fools and liars like you believe the lies, foolishness, false teachings and claims of the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the Born Agains, JWs, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Muslims, Buddhists, Methodists, and all religions in the world.
Truthful and honest persons honor and obey the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments.
Fools and liars like you who are mocking, defying and opposing the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments are worthless and useless persons who'll just die and become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
ETERNAL DEATH, just dust on earth forever for fools and liars like you.
Truthful and honest human beings who are submissive and obedient to the Creator and His Christ's authorities, teachings and commandments will live and exist happily and abundantly on earth forever.
A HAPPY, ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth for truthful and honest persons.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 maybe read verse 15 as well??
@@vusimngomezulu2500 what's your point?
@@eloiseramsey9276 All different churches including exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible?????????
My aunt who doesn't really talk to me anymore when my mother told her I watch shows like this would always tell me that we are born with a spiritual need and this is what causes people with talent and intelligence to fall for a thing like this. It never turned the light bulb on for me it was always too many holes and the way my aunts would scream and get all frustrated and tell me to just go along with it when I would insist on certain questions. Now it seems like those people weren't as smart as they seemed and some of them nowadays sound really like a brainwashed person and it's sad.
Yep, amazing how the most studious JW can sound so smart when they would recite a bible account with exact dates and the moral of the story. I used to be so intimidated by that b/c I am not that kind of student. But then when they start signing Jeehooovab name like a parrot and insist that you believe w/o questioning and sign praised to the GB and the paradise life, they really are robots on fear. Just learning form memory to repeat the doom and praises that the magazines tell them. Just not so smart. And it does get easier to life w/o that family member who rejects you.
@@sammyytube5999 I was never baptized, but studied with aunt's, attended the hall when I visited, lived with grands, aunt wanted me to study and be a big, handsome elder, take out family all the way up to the top, don't I want to see all of them in the ressurection, grandmother & grandfather, you know better, Adrian, but I never baptized. I did look into it and had my own tragedies, but found taking responsibility did me just fine
It. Ay depend how strong one is. Have been a jw 7years, all of my spiritual, and music talent are in tact. Researching and cross checking. Not afraid to still vote, (sometimes) still remember my birthday and my non jw families birthday.the key, is to remain as detached as possible, without causing alarm. I enjoy learning, but discard what I do not accept, and keep it to myself.
@@alexandriamancheck3474 Very good. This is what I had to learn after waking up and having to be PIMO for a while. Prior, I was already detached from JW friends but had to keep up appearance at boring meetings and service so not to look less spiritual and avoid guilty feelings. Now that it all makes sense with the "real truth" being detached from those friends works until I'm able to physically move. No more guilt in secretly remembering family's Bday and mothers day. Will ALWAYS continue to use my god given intelligence to research whatever I please outside of the org to feed myself mentally and physically. Be unashamed of doing hybrid meetings (not all in person) and not identify myself as JW in public. All can be done w/o causing alarm while making some sacrifice to appear less spiritual in JW world although it has nothing to do with salvation only by means of Christ. You just have to learn to give yourself permission to keep all to yourself and remember you don't owe an answer to anyone even elders. May it continue to go well for you until the day that you are ready to break free completely.
@@sammyytube5999 what an inspiration, you are, abd I needed your words, today I love .God and his .Son, taught by my parents. I enjoy learning, but have learned all I want to, from this organization. Whatever I feel or think that is not in line, I keep to myself. It has never been my intentions to undermine anyone,Yvette,bi am more aware of hidden anger and hatred more than ever. Anger, can never be disguised, it reveals itself, and who, one way or another. Thank you, so much! YOY really made my day. God be with you, always.🇺🇸🦅
This is one of the best videos on JW I have ever seen. The guest is truly a life coach.
I was never a JWs and my only experience with their church was agreeing to do Bible Studies with them in college. This lasted several months and ended when I graduated and moved back home.
These were very awkward Bible Studies because the JWs never answered any of my critical thinking questions...not even one!
They often tried to rush through lessons knowing a critical question 🙋 would come up. I would ask a question and then total silence! After the silence they'll say, "You know due to limited time let's not get off course or we'll research and address that for next week studies"
What they could not get was that I sincerely wanted to understand their teachings but more importantly wanted clarification and irrefutable proof directly from the Bible which ironically one was never opened. It was all digital literature from an iPad and click this verse here.
I realized that I was receiving a lot of answers that couldn't be questioned and had a lot of questions they wouldn't answer.
In conclusion I could never join a group or church were I could not question their teachings for further clarification or understanding. It's literally a form of mind control at that point if I did.
What questions did you want answered??
@@queue555 It's extremely hard for me to believe that any organization that makes a very "serious claim" that they are God's only true religion on Earth and members are incapable of providing solid and irrefutable proof to the validity of doctrines from The Holy Bible.
In other words its safe to say an active baptized JWs should be able to provide supporting scriptures on their doctrines that I can read for myself and examine to come to the same "Truth" of JWs beliefs.
Q. Does everything that JWs teach come solely from The Holy Bible and nothing else?
I only want a Yes or a No.
@@anonymousprofessor8866 Yes that's the only place. And it has to be some group of people, I can see the ' spiritual Israel' aspect after the Jews were rejected, and they don't say they're the only ones to be saved either.
My jw friend of 11 years says ' if I left where would I go?'. And I can't answer her as I know that mainstream Christianity went off the rails. It's all hypocrisy out there you see it all the time. Just like the Bible says. At least they try to stay united which I suppose they should as God had organisation didn't he. Plus what happens after armeggdon? You can't have all this division and people doing their own thing as that hasn't worked. How you gonna get paradise on earth?
@@queue555 I pray for you and hope you wake up and understand this comment..
Imagine you were a young innocent and happy child in the 1st grade and you started to learn math.
Your teacher taught 1+1=2.
Then one day another teacher opposed to school systems claimed to be Gods only true "Educators" convinced your parents to have you taught by them instead.
Now 1+1= 144,000. Those who believed this would get paradise earth and a Star sticker.
I am absolutely 100% totally SURE that JWs is NOT "The Truth" Why? Simply because No JWs on Earth can open up a Holy Bible and prove to me through scriptures alone Jesus choice a small group of Bible Students in "1919" to be Jehovah's one true religion on Earth!!! This critical teaching and belief is equivalent to 1+1 = 144,000, if you are a critical thinker.
@@queue555 I have asked several JWs for the scriptures to prove that in 1919 Jesus choice a small group of Bible Students to be Jehovah's One and Only true religion on Earth.
If everything that JWs teach and believe comes from the Bible and the Bible alone then a JWs should be able to provide me those 1919 scriptures so I can come to their same conclusion.
Do you understand my issue?
Lady Cee and JT, Thank you for a great interview with Gary Alt!
It STILL Amazes me , how MANY Intelligent 👨🏾🎓and Talented people👩🏫 . . Fell for This Nonsense😝 . . back in the 1950's 60's and 70's
( Including my own family🙆🏻♂️ ) who went on to Sacrifice Much over the
Decades ( and Still do ❗ 🤦)
It's called being Naive! Ears tickled false hope
That is right . Cause when my cousins got this fellowship. I told her she was only disfellowship from the Jehovah witness and not from my family.
I have been out of the cult for many years. I moved on with my life so many years ago. Sure the cult is still in my mind as a memory. But, they have no control over me. There is nothing they can do to me. They are just part of my history. People that I used to know. In fact it has been so long, that I would never recognize any of them, even if I walked right by them. They wouldn't recognize me either. Too much water under the bridge. So that is nice. I get on these web sites just to see if the cult is still the same as when I was in. If the cult is worse or not. I find it just amazing that basically it's just as wacky as when I was in. It hasn't changed! I am also amazed that my father got involved in this cult. My mother I could see. She was easily influenced. If it wouldn't have been the jehovah witnesses it would have been some other cult. The jehovah witnesses just found her first. My father never became an elder. He just wasn't interested in doing that and he was never asked. That being said, he would never believe anything negative about anyone leading the cult. They were the faithful and discreet slave for Christ's sake!! So that proved that they were ,,,,,,,,,,,,holy! They had the red phone, the hot line, to jehovah. To this day it's hard for me to believe that he would ever get involved with a cult. But he did.
When I was on the verge of leaving (just before walking out that door for the last time), I observed this Organization the way an outsider would observe it. In words of one syllable: I did NOT like what I saw.
Same. It is actually shocking the things really going on in this organization.
Exactly I got disfellowshipped walked out the door that night and never stepped foot in the congregation again. I didn’t care what others thought of me. I had my freedom to do what I wanted being pulled into the backroom to get grilled over something that was none of their business to begin with.
@@marwatson7408 : I didn't get disfellowshipped, but apparently right after receiving my "letter of introduction", I started getting really shabby treatment (I had just relocated to a different Congregation). They started treating me as if I wasn't there. NO explanation...NO NOTHING. That made my decision an easy one. If they were going to treat me as if I don't exist (complete ignorance of my presence...as if I were invisible)...then I saw no reason WHATSOEVER to be there. I left in mid- meeting...and never looked back. TO THIS DAY...they never sought me out, never looked for me. That's when I said to myself: "Screw 'em...they're not worth the time.
@@michaelmaston4702 Good for you 😀😎👍
I did the same thing. I looked around y hall and said to “Jehovah “, if these are the people who will be in charge of the new world after Armageddon, I don’t want any part of it. I don’t know how any of your halls were but I was in a back stabbing, gossip filled one. The elders and their wives were the worst. There were more bad people than good. I felt bad for the good people I wouldn’t be able to speak with again.
Great Video guys. My husband is out now too and preparing to submit his “DISASSOCIATION” letter. I’m so thankful for you and your hard work. The advocacy is so needed to help as many escape. Sadly, not everyone wants to be “saved” but for those who do……..y’all have made it easy and mentally stable, for one to do so.
Oh that’s so good to hear. Glad you all are moving together as a family getting out of the Watchtower. Thanks for keeping us in the loop! 😊
That’s such a pertinent expression Mr Alt uses when he says “failure driven”. That’s the biggest control mechanism this org uses. So many when they step out have absolutely nothing so of course many don’t. Most can’t even explain the doctrines. The minute you examine them they fall to pieces so many don’t dare.
anyone heard of Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz?
Great stuff! The elders only get the authority you give them and nothing more. I do love these reminders they are so true
Love this interview! Great job guys. Great story!
What he keeps saying is that the brotherhood was a "SHAM" not a "SCAM" Not that it's not both, by the way! 'cause it truly is!!! it's sooooo crazy! it's unthinkable! we ever fell for it!
Yup, thanks! I did fix the title. LOL L-C I’m working too hard over here.
Some of us were born in had No Choice..
@@jeremydegraaf.nz.1471 The times, those times, they are changing. Soon, the last, like Joseph, will be first.
Like yourself! 🤔❤️💯🔥
And that’s where forgiving ourselves is so very important. ❤️
Definitely a scam. They prey on the fact that you want family and close friends and provide that for you as long as you're doing what they want. Once you express doubt they disappear and drop you like a hot potato. Smh
I would rather have questions I cannot answer than to have answers I cannot question.
Another great life experience! Gary's closing comments are really on point. I really liked the questions you guys asked as well. Truly are looking out for the benefit of your audience ❤.
I can listen to Gary speak all day. He just articulates so well and has so much knowledge to share. Thanks for posting
Im starting to think that the only people interested in jw teachings are ex JW's. Most jws that want to return to Kingdom hall's is to meet friends and family. They seem to care little about jw teachings.
Religion give men life purpose
All of that conditional love.
The reason they go is for spiritual building up and being with like-minded people. What's wrong with that? They're not slandering these two idiots who are making money off slandering others. They could actually go after this JT moron by using their logo and selling mugs and tshirts ( that's how desperate they are for money) but he knows they probably won't. So who's the righteous one here?
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No.
Life in Christ gives life purpose.
And false religion will keep you from Christ.
Looking at you, Watchtower.
@John S. Yep when I got into org I thought strange congregations are cold and member's are not developing a Christ like personality. They are in org for the companionship. Took me a will to understand that 😁. Watchtower depict congregation as very loving in there magazine. It's a bit of fraud.
Wow!!! What a testimony! Came to JW’s on his own, no family involved, going out in service and spent decades in the organization before finally getting out….I’m amazed. 😳
And I’m only 13 mins into this interview! 🤯
I’m so impressed…..can’t wait to get to finish listening, I’m at the edge of my seat! 👏
During one of my judicial meetings, the elders actually encouraged me to leave my wife because she was spiritual danger to me and so I did. Then they use this as one of the reasons to df me aside from not believing in their bs doctrines. They set people up for failure once they are “marked” and hold it against them. Its disgusting
Good god! The manipulation of peoples Ego is pathetic. The Karma they will endure will be heavy. Ridiculous fools.
Wow , contradicting to what your Bible says ...
Thank you for your channel and great interview. Your channel has helped with deal and cope with leaving the organization. Your changing lives -- people are truly waking up.
I was pissed for months!! When i woke up
I felt relief
And then mad at myself for not doing research
😆. Join the club!
You are NOT ALONE Tony Fernandez.
You just reminded me of how much of a joke the Revelation Climax book is with all those "trumpet blasts" by JF Rutherford. I remember conducting the book study at that time and how hard it was not to laugh at it while trying to teach it.
Yes, the only trumpet blast I hear is : get out of this religion,😜
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Very true. And the thing is it's really not a "religion" -- it's more like a glorified book club membership exclusive association under the guise of theology.
@@larpsim I’m still listening to your story. I’m still in, pimo, for reasons you can imagne. But I plan to fade. I wont let them disfellowship me, cause they are not over me and have no authority over me.
@@beautyRest1 same here brother/sister
exJW good ole boy elders clubs never seems to fade.
I FEEL LIKE WALKING INTO A KINGDOM HALL WITH A SIGN SAYING: "PLEASE DON'T TALK TO ME I'M DISFELLOWSHIPED." TO SEE HOW THEY WILL REACT.
Conditional relationships only allow stunted growth. The true value of an individual is overlooked to fit into a preconceived mold that ignores the abilities and growth opportunities of humans. Ever notice that only a minority of attendees comment, most have to be coaxed and pushed out into field service? The good attributes of many are overlooked because they don't feel comfortable with field service and seldom comment.
Galatians 6:10 says "let us work what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith." I learned the hard way that ends when you actually need help.
Great interview...happy for Gary!
What a great interview! When you can look back with some compassion and understanding for those still trapped in this ideology, you’ve taken your power back. Dont give it away to anyone again. That’s true freedom.
They only apply the noble minded Bereans scripture to new recruits to pull them from other religions. After the recruit has been indoctrinated that scripture is rarely ever used again for them personally.
True that! 🙂
Gary Alt was wonderful. I love his attitude about life. I admire his ambition in life. He made wonderful points about the JW's. I was one for 6 years. I don't miss them and care about them.
Yeah, I remember reading older publications to bolster my faith, only for it to do the opposite. I read studies in the scriptures and was blown away with how different the theology was back in CT era then it is now. I also remember rereading the revelation book to prove to myself that the witnesses interpretation was correct, I got about 1/4 ways through and it dawned on me that everything I was reading was pure nonsense. They were literally taking uneventful moments in a small cult and trying to use those moments in history as proof of scriptural prophecy being fulfilled. But you can do that with any religion at any time period in history , and write a story line about how this is fulfillment of bible prophecy. It's all nonsense at the end of the day.
The 7 trumpets being fulfilled in J.F. Rutherford's talks at assemblies was just embarrassing.
As an elder conducting the book study, I would be thinking to myself "am I the only one who see that all this is BS?".
You could look up the contextual meaning, it is quite clear, that and many other things… the preterist perspective should at least be considered before you assume that’s what everyone does.
Several scholars who actually know about Mesopotamia shed light on much of the worldview disconnect , NT Wright, David Bentley Hall, and Dr. Micheal Heiser work takes into consideration Mesopotamian context for imagery as well, the Sumerian , Kemetic=Egyptian , and Assyrian background all provides much insight into a culture which was not talking about what we have anachronistically projected onto the text.
I for one have studied the ancient mystery schools which still remember how Mythos is used, it’s a matter of correspondences. Anyone can project their own correspondences, but only when one is ignorant or bedarkened to the cultural contextual correspondence.
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I was dfd going to book study and could not figure out why people believed the Revelation book! I mean five angels represents Jesus. Every page was nonsense! Russell giving spiritual food to living 144,000!
Gary I’m glad you made it out! My dad was a musician too. I’m guessing you play guitar? Welcome to your freedom! That was a great interview Lady C and JT 😊
It's funny how Prince was accepted in the congregation he joined before he passed wasn't it. 🤦
I always view the inclusion of celebrities with skepticism. Most of them still carry on with their personal lives that still includes hobnobbing with music companies, film studios and all the personnel that goes along with that. Celebrities are cash cows and Watchtower will not risk losing those benefits by criticizing them. How else can the Williams sisters in tennis get away with their sleazy clothes and half naked photoshoots? Any other JW woman would be harangued and hounded to death for such blatant behaviour.
@@joanferguson4194 No they wouldn't. It's not up to us to judge what they do outside a KH. No KH gets money nor accepts money just because someone is a celebrity. Satan's world is full of influences. It's doing a wonder on these two yahoos who are busy slandering the JWs to make money off it. You think they're doing this from a good heart? 🤷.
This man is amazing, really enjoyed hearing him tell his story.
This helps me witness to my sister in law. She and her family are all in. They even had a man from the GB and his wife stay with them when they visited Seattle. My heart aches for them and I pray for them and when I try to open a discussion with her about what I'm learning in Bible study fellowship where we are studying Matthew this year, she shuts me down real quick.
The point Gary made at 9:50 shows exactly why we shouldn't go off at them, as frustrating as it is . It will get you no where and only firm up their resolve .
You have just summed up my whole experience in the org. Apart from Bethel. I was in for 35 years although my husband has never been JW
Gary, I know so many of your old peers at Bethel and know firsthand the politics you referenced. All to a person were absolutely the worst men I have ever known, and yet like you I was obedient in spite of everything my own eyes were seeing. Thank goodness what we are now awake and being the best version of ourselves.
We have had to put up with elders who spread gossip with out knowing the facts, lie slander and revile their Christian brothers with out consequences. The bible says to remove such ones from your midst. The elders just say to "Leave it to Jehovah."
I love his thinking. I was wondering if to send in a letter, and then I said "what a min, did I ever sign a contract?" but then I thought "well, I might as well turn in my letter for them to count me out of their numbers." I'm grieving, but also viewing it as a chapter of my life that's closed. I made a video for RUclips and am privatizing it for the next year and creating 3 mo check-ins to remind myself of how I healed from being indoctrinated my entire life. I will NOT feel bad and no talk to a JW that says hi to me in a store, I'm just an outside "worldly" person not causing any harm or pushing my private agenda on anyone. I'm simply a human that wants curtesy and respect. I love that you have this channel, because I felt so alone. I can't imagine what you guys felt back in the day when RUclips and Reddit++ where not available. I loveeee this channel, and I'm so glad you're sharing the damaging effects this cults fails to communicate to its members. I will NOT be another suicide number. I refuse to.
This brother's way of thinking was the same as mine! as i had to accept their reasoning that it would take a thousand years for each one to achieve perfection! wow! eh?
20:45 I completely understand that observation where attempts are made to bend these grand points in the Revelation to fit only the actions of none other than and how farfetched such attempts seemed; eg: that the sting in the locusts' tail refers to the tracts\material left behind by witnesses which hurt people 5 months (or for a time); but in each case, their attempts to make these grand Revelation events fit activities greatly watered down what the Revelation is actually saying. We see this manipulation of the Revelation also in the case of the 2 Witnesses in Revelation 11, all the great events written about, such as the death of the 2 witnesses, their resurrection, the loud voice booming from heaven saying ''come on up here'', their ascension into heaven in a cloud, the massive earthquake that follows, the number who die as a result, ALL these points, in order to make them specifically fit activities they are all watered-down as not reeeeally happening as the Revelation states it, but it was AS IF it happened in this way.. And mistranslates such Scripture text because they know very well that they cannot honestly claim that such great events have happened to witnesses. Therefore, the 2 witnesses\prophets were not literally killed by the beast of the deep pit, and so God did not actually resurrect them, they did not actually get called into heaven before the very eyes of terrified onlookers, there was no literal earthquake, 7000 or so did not actually die..., this is ALL redefined and explained as *IT WAS AS IF* they died, it was as if they were called into heaven etc, but it didn't really happen as the Revelation states. I found these interpretations quite disturbing and dishonest. And after speaking to eg Elders about it, they would say ''well look what it says in the beginning of the book ...'' BUT, I have a problem with that because this book - ''Revelation: The Grand Climax at Hand'' - was used in the weekly Book Studies and taught as TRUTH.
Have been out for decades but still follow the ex-JW community for talking points with my JW family. Was quite surprised to watch that 2019 video with David Splane where they finally admitted that their decades long belief about the locusts mentioned in the OT book of Amos and Revelation chapter nine was a “misunderstanding” because the context clearly identifies these locusts as an evil and destructive plague and not a prophecy about the preaching work of modern day JWs. Splane even blamed Jehovah for their erroneous teaching saying he didn’t make the true meaning known to them until that point in 2019 because it wasn’t time for it!!!
Yet the context of those scriptures was clear and unmistakably plain to even the most intellectually challenged. But as usual, the rank and file do not care about any of this and just shrug it off
Wait until They do a Body count , at the up and coming Memorial !! 🙄
Plus figuring out how many🤔 . . Didn't choose to
Return . . to the Regular meetings ! 😮
I remember as I was waking up comparing the persecution to the boogeyman, that's when I realized they treat the rank and file like children
Wow 😳
We were "Failure Driven"❗
Yeah that's a good description of Exactly . . what We were doing.🙆😔
Gary talked about things we CAN control, vs things we can't, and focusing on the former rather than the latter - That's a key element of Stoicism. It's something everyone should do, and it makes life SO much easier.
Very nice interview and I enjoyed the fact that he stressed living life now and leaving the past behind. Greatly talented person who is not being held back.
I like the story about being a "Life Coach" Your story is well told! Great job!
***FREEDOM ain't Free***
- FREEDOM of Speech
- FREEDOM of Choice
- FREEDOM from Want
- FREEDOM from Fear
Thanks Gary for sharing your story! I am still going through the different phases of sadness, anger, and struggling with a bit of depression on some days. When I think I’m over it all something triggers me and I experience guilt or one of the other already mentioned phases. I appreciate you stating that it is normal to go through them over again. I feel better just learning that! My goal is to get to the place where I don’t see myself as an EXJW - my mom was baptized when I was three years old so it feels as if I was born into it. I do remember Christmas presents but they were probably after being three because I recall my mom accepting them for me but not letting me open them until months later. She thought that was okay to do, but it was horrible for me to see them daily. A big temptation for sure LOL.
I just found out through my sister that they have go bags ready in case they have to flee. Anyone heard of this? My mother is still in. We all got out. My sister talks to her. Mom wont talk to me because im an apostate. So thats always fun.
Yes it is still a thing. I was in a chat group in my congregation and it was mentioned
Yes it’s a real thing. An elder called me very recently about in person meetings. He brought up the go bags and how the Ukrainian JWs were ready to flee the conflict.
@@Gamerdade78 i got out in 98 so it was way different back then. It just sounds so cult like now.
Man I love this channel your interviews are always top notch both of you. 👌
Excellent information positive and encouraging. I think for most (not meaning child sexual abuse ) having to get out of the I am a victim of WT mentality can stunt the progress.
It’s ironic that his skill was computer programming cause as a preteen I built autonomous robots and knowing how electricity flows is an absolute science. Programming a computer is an absolute science. Some of my favorite robots to build were called BEAM robots. You don’t need batteries or software. You just build a simple logic circuit. The robot charges the capacitors through a solar panel and depending on which diode is receiving the most light when the capacitor is charged the robot discharges the opposite motor to move it tword the light. My point is.. it’s allotta people in the JW community that have to to use “IF .. Then” logic to write software or make circuits but don’t see the flaws in JW logic. 🤦🏾♂️
Once again, Priceless ❣
Thank you 🙏
Excellent points. That "relationship" is severed when labeled as Df'd. No longer a JW. I truly look forward to these videos!
Oooh have you bought one of their tshirts or mugs yet🤦
Thanks! GREAT Job
Thanks for having Gary
sharing. I enjoy.
Great solid content! Love this channel!
Great interview this is!! Thanks JT & LADY CEE.
Thank you my brother and sister for bearing witness to truth it's setting us free many blessings alan and family
I was happy when I woke up. Was just glad to BE woke so I could enjoy the rest of my life!
Enjoyed your articles, will now enjoy your videos!!
I had the same experience when I was told about their interpretation of certain verses in Revelation. I was studying with a woman who was a full time minister and her friend, who professed to be of the 144,000 anointed ones. I was just a kid then but had a profound WTF moment about these interpretations. And like most who wanted this religion to be the Truth, I shrugged it off and told myself these things would all be dealt with one day. So I went along with it. Then my father violently objected to my mother and I studying! Of course I took this to be a clear and unmistakable sign of the persecution JWs would experience because they had The Truth! Woke up 16 years later and the realized I wasn’t too shocked about “the truth about the truth” because I’d been through several mini wake-up calls during that time. What did shock me was realizing I’d been in an altered state of brain-fog all that time. So waking up and going to college was actually exhilarating! I took the shunning as the price I was willing to pay to be free.
Enjoyed! Thanks for making it!
i really liked this interview. It resonated with me.
A huge problem that I have is when the governing body said that if we don’t listen to them it’s like not listening to Jehovah, and they teach us not to say anything if disagree with them, we will be labeled an apostate if we disagree with them. It was then that I realized, that they have sat themselves in the seat of God, and nobody said anything about this because we are taught not to question or disagree with the governing body. My major problem is with the Christian congregation. Most Christians are not walking in the way of Christ according to the first three chapters of Revelations
Man of Lawlessness “ class” for sure it’s actually very scary if u still believe in God‼️
Thank you Lady C and JT we love you for all you do for us ex Jw's. Gary you a great guy keep up your labour of LOVE. We love you too.
Agreed! The amount of pressure is terrible!
I love you guys! You have helped me so much!
When the Elders began working with my wife behind my back, I sensed someone was influencing her. But she was A Devout Catholic, so naturally I thought it was someone in the Catholic Church. I never dreamed it was the Elder's I'm my Congregation. But one thing I did was decided to keep my 457 retirement money hidden from her. I increased my monthly donation to $400 a month and went with a high risk investment program. I knew something was wrong so I recorded each instance where her attitude showed disrespect for the marriage. And then just did not rock the boat. So when she gave my financial,s to the Elders they had no idea I had 45thousand in my 457 plan. So when I had a major surgery, she came but was not so supportive, when I woke up in recovery she was not there anymore. I was alone. I will always remember one Elder who was suppose to encourage me, told me he could not wait to drive by my homeless tent on the way to meetings. And I thought why would you say that to anyone, because at the time I still did not know the involvement the Elders were having with my Catholic wife. Then of course the comment you deserve what you get for marrying out of the truth! Little did they know at 61 I had already set up my retirement with Social Security and really just had to sit tight for a few months. So once January came I informed them I was flying to Africa! They told me I could not, and I told them try to stop me! I was just told at that time they would ruin me. What they didn't know was where in Africa I was going. So I told them Kenya, which was a lie, I was really going to West Africa as I had already paid a years rent and my future pioneer wife had already rented my compound for a year. Brother Alts experience with his wife sounds very familiar, his wife was working with another brother or Elders in the Congregation, probably already having sex with the Brother. That is how they do it. But for sure a plan to leave Brother Alt homeless. So it took them another 4 years to disfellowship me and my pioneer wife. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Thanks!
Thank you 💕
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Appreciated Thanks #Truth
I researched as well with the motive to strengthen my faith, the opposite happened, particularly trying to discuss with elders. D/Fd for apostasy in Feb 2021.
Oh researching material that is not COMPANION literature is a big no no! Haha. Good for you!
I am an ex-JW for 5 years. When I had my first JW Bible study, my instructor, she asked me did I know who the Israelites were, and I said no. So she said that I had to know who they are before reading any JW because she said that the entire Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, is about the Israelites, the "Chosen People" of The Most High God of Israel. She took me through the Bible, from Genesis to Proverb. I learned all about those Israelites and the way "TMHGOI" love his Chosen People, ( Deuteronomy 7: 6) and the way he fought for them even though they were hard headed, stubborn, rebellious, and stiffneck people, but he still love them. And God said that Israelites are forever even, eternity because of his promised to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. After that, she went back into JW publications and I never heard about the Israelites again. She took a different route at that point. About 60 years later, on Social Media, I came across a Video that said that the Negroes, African Americans are the True Ancient Hebrew Israelites of the Seed of the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob from Tribe of JUDAH from Jerusalem, Israel. I began listening to so many Videos who gave me Confirmation that We, Negroes are from their "Seed". Our Bloodline, Nationality, Heritage are the Hebrew Israelites of Ancient Jerusalem, Israel. I left Kingdom immediately! never went back. Because the Israelites said that our God of Israel gave his "Chosen People" Israel, his Laws, Statues, and Commandments, not Religion, Christianity, nor Islam. (Ps. 147: 19, 20). Kingdom Hall JW teaches that the Laws are done away with, which is a lie, because the God of Israel did not give his Laws to ESAU (White Man). He gave his Laws, Statues and Commandments to Jacob (Israel) he did not do so to any other people. Also, He did not do away with his Children, the Israelites. He had them in Slavery for 400 years in America. (Gen. 15: 13, 14) in which the so-called Negroes, African Americans served.(1619-2019). Have you noticed, "All Hell is Now Breaking Out". The God of the Children of Israel is coming back to get his beloved "Chosen People" to return them to their Land that he promised their Forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.(Deuteronomy 7:6, and Deuteronomy Chapter 28 "The Sign that African Americans and all Negroes scattered to the four corners of the earth. (Jere. 23:3, 4, 8), (Deuteronomy 30: 1-14). Jehovah's Witness New World Order is this USA GOVERNMENT NWO UNDER SATAN. JW Organization is a Free Mason system under Satan. Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd Degree Free Mason a worshipper of Satan. D O YOUR RESEARCH!!! Every Prophet, including Christ are Black people. Read in the King James Version 1611 with the Apocrypha (Books Europeans took out of the Bible) Jeremiah 14:2), Rev. 1: 14), Job 30: 30) (Jere. 8: 21), (Song of Solomon 1:5). The Bible is the History of the Negroes only!!! God's Chosen Nation. Israel is Forever!!! JW has LIED.
What???🤤😲😲😲
@John S. OMG and I've been indoctrinated into that cult they say my religion the episcopal church is a false religion that Trinity is false I was not a JW but I made bible study with them I have an half sister in this organisation or cult don't know what to tell it
#confused
This doesnt sound very loving to me.It sounds divisive.As people of the earth we should stop seeing others as enemies.Until we stop saying things like "we are the chosen one"we will never get true harmony.
@@joancampbell4130 yup Well said love one another💜
Did it ever occur to you that the people from that part of the earth are dark skinned?
That is what you get when switching Bible to magazine, you get a water down gospel.
How I wish a Witness never knocked on my Grandma's door in the 1940s. Converting my grandma devastated our family for 3 generations!!! So much collateral damage and trauma. Just 1 conversion can cause SO MUCH HURT to GENERATIONS of families.
They came knocking on our door in 1976 ....
That is such an important point that people who come out of high control groups should not keep defining themselves by that group. I'm sure the temptation to do that is very strong, especially for the born in or raised in. And I can totally see why that would be. They were in a community for a long period of time and were largely defined by that community. So in leaving, it is common and understandable to then connect with others who have also left and formed their own community. And that's actually a good thing. But at the same time, it shouldn't be a defining feature of a person's life anymore, lest it give that organization continued power in any way over their lives. I faced the same temptation when I was first diagnosed with a serious chronic illness. I let it define me for a time as I joined communities of others who also had the same condition. But now I recognize it has nothing to do with who I am. It's something I struggle with, that's it.
I did not want to and elder and they treated me bad. Great video
While I somewhat agree with him on the brotherhood point , my personal experience is that some have stayed my friends ( while strained ) while others have completely rejected me .
"the brotherhood is nothing but a sham"- thats exactly right. Theres a quote that goes something like " if you lose someone that doesnt respect or appreciate you, its not a loss, its a gain" If anything leaving this religion has taught me, is not to depend on anyone. Theyve made us strong and self sufficient. Bump them.
I can so relate about having friends because you are a friend to them. But when you stop doing friend things for them they're never around.
Wow is right. No such thing as a brotherhood. It is a sham! This was a great interview.
Strong Minds Critical Thinkers #Courage
Luke 17:21 - neither shall they say , look here ! Or look there ! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
To anyone reading and looking for something deeper or Truth. All the answers that you need are inside of you. What we call life is something far more amazing and beautiful than we’ve been taught, you are far more powerful than you been taught. Every answer you seek is within you , don’t just believe me search for yourself. Ask yourself why is this thing called life even here and what’s the purpose for it ? Also ask who am I underneath all the labels and stories that have been told to me since birth? Isn’t it true that you knew nothing when you were born and anything that you know was Taught to you by someone else. Seek and you will find. thank you for reading this 🙏🤟
I do think this guy makes a terrific life coach!
So glad to even be out of the Baptist religion. Glad to be free! Even write about it in The MBA Journal.
Oh great. Gary is one of the authors in Fear to Freedom
Great Job 👍 respect from Detroit
Hey Fam!!!
@@ExJWCriticalThinker hey fam! Keep up the Great work 👍respect from Detroit
control is not the point the issue is what type of control the brand of control. A stop sign is control and a good control so the question is really not about control itself but is it good control or bad control
Your videos are awesome! You are both beautiful people inside and out and it would be awesome if you didn’t have to share your screens with ginormous microphones. Is it possible to move them off to the side of or off screen? Thank you for all you do.
So true!!
It was a pattern from FWFranz' mind. Freddie passed and no more types and anti-types (those were the "limb" that the Society was sitting on, when they got rid of that, they lost their real claim to uniqueness). The Org is a literature distribution plan.
Good old Freddy. I liked his Elmer Gantry impersonation. Like he belonged in an old revival tent preaching hell and damnation. Lol
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