But I do think that they do lose jw organization the gb members also lose their members i also think the more that leave it the less donations they got coming in that most hurt them all religion including chertadom religion all hate to lose members it just means less money their not getting no more they don't like at all no one like that
Once again you have provided a great program. Jack validated all of my feelings of panic, anger, disbelief and shock!! All we gave and gave up for this pathetic cult. I still have ptsd and lots of anger. I know the feeling of my stomach turning and knowing that I could not listen any more. This has been very helpful in my healing. Thank you all!!!!
Did the hebrew slaves always benefit from Moses leadership and requests made to Pharoah ? Were there NO ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES ? @REV 11:5 & 6 ..Almighty God issues command to his representatives to do that will.. WILLhave negative consequences..🤔🤔🤔🤔
I had brunch with my childhood “friend” yesterday after almost 3 years of not seeing her. She’s PIMI, I’m not disfellowshipped so she still contacts me about once-a-year. She and her husband have a photography/videography business mostly for weddings. I asked her what they do when it’s off-season for work. She said they travel to locations in our area where there is “good news” about the religion, take video or photos, to then supply to Warwick to send off to newspapers to basically promote the good side of JW’s. So if they’re helping in regards to the virus, disaster relief, etc. They will put those stories in the papers to show what good people and what a good religion it is. I was speechless. They’re trying to quiet all the noise and the news that makes them look bad with these stories of good deeds. Image is everything to them!
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Freedom Freedom to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14?and exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8;44,2PETER 2;1-3, Psalms 37:20????????
Freedom to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14?and exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8;44,2PETER 2;1-3, Psalms 37:20????
I thank you so much for you channel. I was raised in the organization and was baptized at the age of 12. I became pregnant at 15 and I was kicked out of my home and all my family members were witnesses, so no one would take me in and I became homeless. I was traumatized. I eventually came back because I needed my family. I was reinstated, but I left the truth a few years later because I just couldn’t forgive what they did to me! I feel ruined from believing in a god! So much has been robbed from me! I have recently came across your channel and it is so comforting to me. Thank you
This is one of your best interviews ever! It took me YEARS to accept what he says at the 48:03 mark. It is not about intelligence or how smart you are. Some of the most intelligent people I knew when I was in and after, were Jehovah's Witnesses. It was that they (and myself) were not critical thinkers! That part of our brains were shut off. Either we weren't taught this skill or it was turned off. Thanks, Jack, for your insight! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you so much Brother Jack Grey for sharing to the whole wide world that the "Truth from the Bible" must be the basis of our True Freedom and ultimately Salvation of our souls as designed by our Almighty GOD in heaven. Thank you for sharing your kind-hearted approach to encourage others how to open their minds and hearts to see the TRUTH. Our Almighty Father God, through the Love of our Great King and Savior Christ Jesus, and with the help of the Holy Spirit, YOU and YOUR AWAKEN BRETHREN will continuously be Successful and Triumphant in sharing the "True Good News" while enjoying the Best Life of Service for God's Glory. Peace and Love of God be with us all. Sincerely, Marife of Shizuoka, Japan
Imagine if Korah had his own RUclips channel! Korah knew Moses better than anyone just about, being his first cousin and all. He knew the problems too within the camp, and how the 'sausage is made' when the judges of Israel met together to discuss problems and concerns within the camp, and how to deal with them. With all Korah knew about Moses, either from gossip going around an isolated group removed from the rest of civilization, (where gossip spreads as fast there as a small congregation in a small town) or, something he witnessed himself that concerned him, Korah could of felt obligated to start up his own channel on RUclips to voice his concerns. He had to draw the line somewhere, right? And just like JT and all of you, he had to take his stand! Yet, would RUclips change the way God feels about Moses, or would that change the way YOU feel about him?
This interview was very therapeutic for my soul. I’ve been out of this wicked cult for three years now and would rather die than go back. I fully empathize with all the emotions that someone experiences once they realize how they’ve been duped by a extremely controlling corporation governed by men, not God. I lost my former wife and children including most of my extended family members and every JW ‘friend’ I once associated with. Depression is real. I manage daily to cope with great anger, frustration, and sadness due to being involved with the JW Cult. Thank you for these videos because it only shores up my belief that the ‘truth’ was never the truth. Critical thinking is essential in order to be FREE!
I’m so tempted to be interviewed by you guys but am terrified by the repercussions… hell, I got two brainwashed loving elders trying to hunt me down to DF me!
this is probably the best one jt and lady cee that i have watched man ya'll hit it on the head on how to deal with our family and friends that are j.w. thank you so much
Brilliant conversation with a brilliant guest. Keep ‘em coming JT and Lady C. I love your program. You have top notch guests all the time. Really enjoyed listening to Jack. He made a bunch of killer points. Glad he retained his immediate family and got them out.
Great interview! I enjoyed this a lot! I really like it when you interview elders and they highlight what made them question/leave the organization. I think it is a powerful tool to help many others leave or “progress” to being PIMO. The overlapping generation garbage is what has helped many of us see the light
I've been slowly waking up for the past year now, and very recently I really woke up! Thank you so much for sharing these videos, they are truly an eye-opener, and I totally understand having to restart back to the basics and asking yourself, what is truth? I am a critical thinker, I always have been but I also was blinded by the doctrines and the fears associated with it. I am now on a new path of finding my own peace with my Creator. This year will be a year of reconciliation for me, to come into terms with all that was stolen from me, that being, my time. Again, this was a great podcast! Keep up the great work!! 🤍
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video! Jack is so well spoken and insightful! Lady Cee and JT, your interaction with him was incredibly engaging. Thank you to all three of you! 👍👍🥰❤️❤️❤️
@@ExJWCriticalThinker I left in 2019… I was totally devoted to JW till my eyes were opened to the truth about the truth. However I stayed in for three years due to family.. I was sacred that my husband would have divorced me and I was scared of shunning. My nephew at 17 told the family he did not want to be a witness and the family was getting down on him. I remember feeling like I can’t allow this to happen to him. I spoke up on his behalf. I decided to tell my husband that I no longer wanted to attend the meetings. Crying talking screaming I told him… my husband was PIMO and had been for 15 years…. I was shocked… my whole family left 2019…. We are not disfellowship yet but at this point I don’t care! We is free! We is freeeeee🙏🏾…..
@@ExJWCriticalThinker, I started fading in 1998/1999 and completely walked away in 2000. My middle child tried going back in 2002/2003(?) but experienced the hypocrisy and double standards first-hand and left. As JT always says, "Nobody does hypocrisy like Watchtower!" My eldest never accepted it and my youngest happily left it behind, so we are all free of the burden that being a JW puts on you.
Thank you all very much for this video. I told my spouse. This video is now my “Gold Standard Video” on how to leave the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The details on what to expect are spot on. I highly recommend every PIMO listen closely to the advice provided. How to avoid the very common pitfalls when telling your friends and family why you are leaving or doubting, is very important information. I wish you all the very best! Thank you JT, Lady C and Jack.
Yes one must leave in a manner that allows folks to keel their mental sanity And not breakdown and lose it We have seen that too many times Folks just didn't know how to leave JT
Amazing how clear and detailed you have told the realities of this organization. You are right they are blinded and it’s a shame because they are so smart.
this is one of the best waking up videos I've seen to date. Thanks JT and Lady C!! You are presenting experiences and critical thinking in a manor everyone (JW or not) can relate to.
Believe whatever you want to believe, disgree if you want, but stay in the truth. And thus, the PIMO was born. Once your eyes are opened and you know the truth, you MUST act on it, there is no "just stay in". Human beings are simply not programmed to function with such incongruence, we must believe what we're doing otherwise it just doesn't work! And what about when we find out something we were doing or something we believed was totally wrong? We must change! Excellent excellent videos guys. I must say, in general I love the resolve that these brothers from other countries have. They find out the truth about the truth and they act on that, no fence sitting.
I agree so much about having a decent real conversation Haven't experienced one of those in 8 years All J. W too paranoid and mentally dead. When at zoom meeting it's like Zombies We seem to be the only ones Not on medication Looking forward to meeting some new authentic people again. Kev
Rev 16 did foretell many would blaspheme..the weight of opposition..social media filled with experiences of how badly some have been treated. It's as if it's deliberate !! 🤔🤔🤔🤔 It's harsh policies !! Iron rod literally..rev 19:15. Christ..not apostates or other kinder denominations..is to sheperd with an iron rod Breaking to pieces.. Rev 2:27 I say it's families being broken and torn apart .. It got the attention of the president of Russia !! Gog with clouds..clouds covering the land..whst was ezekiel trying to convey ,? Internet ? Social media ? Connected..People around the globe can unite against the governing body !! Here we are.. That part of the Prophecy is fulfilled ! What's left ? See ezek 38:20-22
If Elders applied the same standards to themselves as they did when appointing other elders none of them would be able to serve, which was one of the many issues that led to me discontinuing my association with this organization, appointments seemed to primarily focused on how buddy buddy the brother was with some of the elders in the cong rather than focusing on bible principles.
Another great interview highlighting the fear, mind control and suppression of "thinking ability" (Prov 3:21) by high control groups. This is very current as this weeks WT study (Par 11) instructs JW's to override their natural thinking ability by just accepting direction that "does not make sense to us", and this is enforced with fear of disobedience resulting in death as a result of "the storm coming on the wicked". Thanks Jack, JT and Lady Cee.
This is one of your best interviews by far and y’all have had great interviews in the past ! Loved how he broke down the mindset of JW’s and felt so relieved that his wife eventually woke up ! Thank you so much for this, I hope this helps others wake up !
Loved the three layers of truth (objective, authoritative, and from personal experience)! I won’t forget them as I continue to work on my own critical thinking.
Amazing interview! Thank you Lady C, JT and Jack! The truth must always come out. One way or another. I’m so grateful for channels like this. Keep up the good work exposing this high control group. I’m awake only recently and am dealing with family shunning. Supposed friends in the congregation dropped me like a hot cake in seconds. Such a cruel mindset. True mind control. I keep hoping and praying for my loved ones to wake up.
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. This right here helped me to understand my family members’ mindset. The point made about not forcing anything - so valuable. They will shut down. Gaslight you. It’s better to live your best life stay focused. Jack’s story was so compelling. Thank you!!! 🎯🎯🎯🏆🏆🏆
It is the Truth what is said here b4 I was appointed a ministerial Servant. I asked and Elder what I have to do. Putting more hours to the Hours I put in my Report Sheet. I went from 10hrs to 18 and attending the Meetings/Preachings regularly, then I became Ministarial Servant and more Efforts to become an Elder but after many Researches on Generation, Inspired and 2014 Feb not inspired etc, made me to leave the Organisation with my Family after 37years wasted Years
JC, Lady C and Jack: Thank you so much for sharing your story. It took me 20 years and the pandemic to woke up, because after my escape I didn't do any research on the internet. So January 2020 I overcome my fears and clicked the enter bottom, JW and the pandemic. And then BOOM 💣💥. The ARC in Australia, 23.000 cases of child abuse in the USA and so on.
One of the best interviews I have seen yet. Very relatable, helpful and informative. I could relate to both Jack’s wife’s reaction as that was me when my husband woke up before me and Jack’s reaction when he woke up and felt his work entirely shattered. I woke up in June 2021. My husband and I have both escaped together with our two little girls. We feel both grateful and very lucky. Now it’s time to rebuild. Thanks JT, Lady Cee and Jack.
Some of the most excellent reasoning from your guest, that I have ever heard ... including about the way the Gov Body ask questions in publications, Watchtower etc
@@donnyetta - There are many reasons. Witnesses are never expected to take each other to court. So, bosses will tend to cheat on other Witness employees knowing they will, at most, only go to the elders, who won't do crap. I can give you many examples of people I know who were taken advantage of by fellow Witness bosses.
Excellent interview. It's amazing how scared we all feel when we wake up, I woke up in the pandemic and already had several doubts, but I was always too afraid to ask I had doubts about the generation, about the use of blood fractions, I also didn't like preaching, I was happy with the pandemic and felt guilty for being happy. So I started researching with a lot of fear, after I discovered the lies I entered the zoom link, turned down the volume and watched the "apostate" channels. LOL. Greetings to all ex JW direct from Brazil 🇧🇷
The more I've listened to Apostate YTubes, the more shocked I am about the shunning. I faded some 40 yrs ago, but no family in the cult, so faced no shunning. I realise now what a soft landing I had. Its only now when I hear these personal stories that it breaks my heart for all my former brothers and sisters - we are all one family now of Apostates - there, I've said it now. I've pasted the label on myself, and I'm perfectly OK with that. Even though I'd faded 40 yrs ago, I thought I was wicked and they still had the Truth - and I used to say so. Then in mid October 2021, I listened to an "Apostate JW" YT with much trepidation. It look 1 hour - 1 short hour, to make me do a 180 degree turn around. Something I NEVER thought would happen. But I'm glad I had the courage to carry on listening. My life changed in that 1 hour. Then reading Crisis of Conscience was the COMPLETE destruction of my ability to EVER go back. I will never be seen in a Kingdom Hall again as long as I draw breath in my body. I am free.
Excellent, a sensible video and yet still respectful to the JWs still in, who are strong believers. This is important to me personally because I don’t listen to Apostates who are nasty about the organisation. So far you’ve got the balance just right.
Whew when he broke down the appointment process this is exactly what got me and my husband. He was like I'm not anyone's project. They truly want you be their "theocratic project." So glad we are away from that. Smh. I need to check out this book.
I really appreciate this. I studied with the Witnesses in 2015 after independently coming to similar theological beliefs as them on certain issues. I was really excited that they were the "truth" I was looking for, but I couldn't understand why the same critical thinking skills that helped me come to a more accurate understanding of the Bible (on which the Witnesses themselves even agreed) would have to be immediately abandoned after I was baptized! I'm very grateful I didn't make one of the biggest mistakes of my life in joining the organization.
I truly feel your pain. I am suffering the shunning despite no elder intervention. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before they call me into accountability. It’s so much more than wrong doing…. No infidelity or such matters. I suffer the loss of my adult son. I smoke and abuse alcohol. I hide myself in shame from them. I hope I never hear from them again. They know the story- maybe out of compassion they hold off. . I hold my breath constantly that they won’t add to my burden. It would devastate my life.
Thank you JT for your interest. I know that a more rational view would be to acknowledge that they do have a somewhat limited effect on my life… they don’t pay my bills but they lord over me the prospect of loosing my family. Already I experience the shunning of close family and friends. Self righteous members that say their devotion to Jehovah is what drives their actions despite their suffering at loosing me. There is no reasoning with them. In fact I could not share my thoughts-- they’re content to accept I’m spiritual weak and have been beaten down by this system. They believe that I should pull it together because of their hope of the resurrection. After 3 years I’m still struggling with my loss.
It’s true, it is strange to feel fear of men who shouldn’t have any authority over you, but the truth is, we are being held hostage by them. The power to take away everyone you care about is an incredible power that no one should have.
Just a big THANK YOU for all the critical thinking videos My wife and I are united (which is a blessing) this very day we are submitting our Disassociating formal letter to the Body elders and we are sending out a gentle goodbye to the Congregation and a Brutal resignation to the Elders I know that You said to go gently, but really the Elders really deserve to get back the Fear and hate that they promote. I can't water down my letter... Anyway will keep up with your support Ex Ministerial Servant Kevin Thanks to you all for Today
@Kevin Randall. The Society is brutal. Elders and Circuit Overseers are often brutal. It's about time they understand the laws of sowing and reaping (Hos. 8:7; Gal. 6:7-8). A brutal, scathing letter is what the elders deserve. Your pattern is not unlike that of Jesus. He was gentle and firm with hurting, searching people. He was brutally firm with the hypocrites, AKA the scribes and Pharisees. Congratulations on your freedom! Jesus is the truth!!
@@mitchmiller2382 Thanks Mitch for your comments Yep totally agree I have never felt comfortable with regarding the elders in the cong Evil corruption from the Top down
I am grateful I got out, my childhood was ruined, my parents converted when I was 5 years old, took until my late 30's to get help and understanding of my trama from the JW cult. I hope all listen to this group to get the help I didn't have when I was younger.
Absolutely fantastic from Jack Grey. I so also agreed on the psychology aspect. I came out in 1984, no Internet, all my studying from library and I became interested in lateral thinking and all of that. Also liked to read anyway and books like 1984 by George Orwell certainly hit home. But mainly I also read different translations and looked closely at the interlinear NWT. I still believed so went to church for 7 years firstly before taking a closer more indepth look at the bible itself. I am a spiritual person but not religious now. Only thing wt said right for me was religion is a snare and a racket ( judge Rutherford). Lots of love exjw from across the pond. X
This is such a great interview JT and Lady C. I had to watch it twice. So much wonderful experiences between everyone. Yes, we can move forward and carve a better life for ourselves. I hear such gratitude, love, and courage questioning and taking that leap over the edge to find out their was never a cliff. I will continue to follow all three of you because you supported my waking up and living an authentic life. These interviews keep me on the path that continues to get brighter.
That was a deep statement Can we use it and credit you of course This is why we say everyone needs to let their voice be heard We all have something to add JT
Absolutely loved the video 👏 excellent...comments. I wish I could have received this information 30 plus years ago. I truly wish you the best in life. I definitely thank you for you're experiences.
Being a part of authoring the book was so healing and a wonderful experience. I thank Jack for taking the time to round us all up and help impact others through the book!
I honestly think this may have been the best interview I’ve ever heard. Thanks so much JT and lady C for the work you’re doing and thanks to Jack for your work. It is truly noble to help young teens who have been thrown out by their own parents. I’ve heard of examples of this in my own area. I think that when the Bible talks about people having “ no natural affection “, this is one of the best examples of that. I wish they could see the harm they’re doing.
My father was born a Catholic, too. However, he never attended a Catholic service when I knew him. He didn’t even know the order of the service at my grandfather’s funeral (neither did I nor my brother). Thank goodness he never converted!
"When you can make your own rules to the game, you never lose."
But I do think that they do lose jw organization the gb members also lose their members i also think the more that leave it the less donations they got coming in that most hurt them all religion including chertadom religion all hate to lose members it just means less money their not getting no more they don't like at all no one like that
@@MiguelRodriguez-ok9rb - They've been going down during the past 10 years.
Matthew 20
When you play stupid games you win stupid prizes. You the gb have won an eternity in hell and that is too good
Once again you have provided a great program. Jack validated all of my feelings of panic, anger, disbelief and shock!! All we gave and gave up for this pathetic cult. I still have ptsd and lots of anger. I know the feeling of my stomach turning and knowing that I could not listen any more. This has been very helpful in my healing. Thank you all!!!!
Is The Watchtower Governing Body the Faithful and Discreet Slave? (one minute and 50 seconds) ruclips.net/video/WyrECYEvKkc/видео.html
We must help each other
Lol
Yes they are..interesting.
Did the hebrew slaves always benefit from Moses leadership and requests made to Pharoah ?
Were there NO ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES ?
@REV 11:5 & 6 ..Almighty God issues command to his representatives to do that will.. WILLhave negative consequences..🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@compositioncompilation Are You In The Truth? ( 57 seconds)
ruclips.net/video/MpAgrnVlPaM/видео.html
I had brunch with my childhood “friend” yesterday after almost 3 years of not seeing her. She’s PIMI, I’m not disfellowshipped so she still contacts me about once-a-year. She and her husband have a photography/videography business mostly for weddings. I asked her what they do when it’s off-season for work. She said they travel to locations in our area where there is “good news” about the religion, take video or photos, to then supply to Warwick to send off to newspapers to basically promote the good side of JW’s. So if they’re helping in regards to the virus, disaster relief, etc. They will put those stories in the papers to show what good people and what a good religion it is. I was speechless. They’re trying to quiet all the noise and the news that makes them look bad with these stories of good deeds. Image is everything to them!
WOW!!!!!!
Thanks for letting us know
That is an amazing storY
Amazing
JT
Of course they do, they are protecting themselves from the fear of reality.
@@ExJWCriticalThinker You’re welcome! Anything to help!
What an amazing story! Jack is the man and explained so well how of a scam this whole religion is! Great guest lady C and JT!
He was good at helping all of us to better understand how the org works
This interview was Gold! This is a must-watch for anyone in/out/or thinking about it! Thanks, JT Lady C and Jack Grey.
Thanks for your support
Amen! 🙏
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Freedom Freedom to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14?and exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8;44,2PETER 2;1-3, Psalms 37:20????????
Freedom to which way between the 2 Mathew 7:13-14?and exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8;44,2PETER 2;1-3, Psalms 37:20????
I thank you so much for you channel. I was raised in the organization and was baptized at the age of 12. I became pregnant at 15 and I was kicked out of my home and all my family members were witnesses, so no one would take me in and I became homeless. I was traumatized. I eventually came back because I needed my family. I was reinstated, but I left the truth a few years later because I just couldn’t forgive what they did to me! I feel ruined from believing in a god! So much has been robbed from me! I have recently came across your channel and it is so comforting to me. Thank you
We are very sorry to hear this! What happened to you was absolutely wrong. This religion has hurt people on so many levels. How are you doing now?
Thank you for this fascinating story. Very inspiring. I'm so thrilled that his wife woke up.
The kind of information that was given in the video is what i needed 25 years ago.
thanks very much jack grey, JT and Lady Cee!
This is one of your best interviews ever! It took me YEARS to accept what he says at the 48:03 mark. It is not about intelligence or how smart you are. Some of the most intelligent people I knew when I was in and after, were Jehovah's Witnesses. It was that they (and myself) were not critical thinkers! That part of our brains were shut off. Either we weren't taught this skill or it was turned off. Thanks, Jack, for your insight! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Bingo
When did you leave
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Officially 2008 via fade, though mentally long before that. It's complicated. 😬
Exactly!
@@ExJWCriticalThinker exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8:44,2PETER 2:1-3??????????
@@davidwicklin9943 exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible John 8:44,2PETER 2:1-3?????????
33:57. They have been training for this moment….
Thank you so much for breaking this down!!! They did slice like a razor. So swift. So swift.
***Fear to Freedom*** Great Book Thanks Jack #Courage
It's now on my list, Taaa Daaa, as well as his website. 🤛🏼
@@complex65 Freedom #Courage
Thank you so much Brother Jack Grey for sharing to the whole wide world that the "Truth from the Bible" must be the basis of our True Freedom and ultimately Salvation of our souls as designed by our Almighty GOD in heaven. Thank you for sharing your kind-hearted approach to encourage others how to open their minds and hearts to see the TRUTH. Our Almighty Father God, through the Love of our Great King and Savior Christ Jesus, and with the help of the Holy Spirit, YOU and YOUR AWAKEN BRETHREN will continuously be Successful and Triumphant in sharing the "True Good News" while enjoying the Best Life of Service for God's Glory. Peace and Love of God be with us all. Sincerely, Marife of Shizuoka, Japan
This was a great video, every JW needs to watch this, I’m so happy many people are finally waking up.
i watch some of exjw critical thinker video i am christian in i not happy as a jehovah witness i am tired of being witness
One of the best experiences I’ve ever heard .. thank you
Imagine if Korah had his own RUclips channel!
Korah knew Moses better than anyone just about, being his first cousin and all.
He knew the problems too within the camp, and how the 'sausage is made' when the judges of Israel met together to discuss problems and concerns within the camp, and how to deal with them.
With all Korah knew about Moses, either from gossip going around an isolated group removed from the rest of civilization, (where gossip spreads as fast there as a small congregation in a small town) or, something he witnessed himself that concerned him, Korah could of felt obligated to start up his own channel on RUclips to voice his concerns. He had to draw the line somewhere, right? And just like JT and all of you, he had to take his stand!
Yet, would RUclips change the way God feels about Moses, or would that change the way YOU feel about him?
And yes JT, still turning in my letter.
Like I said earlier, I hope Jehovah is just as patient with you as he was with me.
Take care,
John
he is describing 100 percent of how i felt after waking up it is so scary
Yes for so many of us as well
This interview was very therapeutic for my soul. I’ve been out of this wicked cult for three years now and would rather die than go back. I fully empathize with all the emotions that someone experiences once they realize how they’ve been duped by a extremely controlling corporation governed by men, not God. I lost my former wife and children including most of my extended family members and every JW ‘friend’ I once associated with. Depression is real. I manage daily to cope with great anger, frustration, and sadness due to being involved with the JW Cult. Thank you for these videos because it only shores up my belief that the ‘truth’ was never the truth. Critical thinking is essential in order to be FREE!
I’m so tempted to be interviewed by you guys but am terrified by the repercussions… hell, I got two brainwashed loving elders trying to hunt me down to DF me!
I feel the same way
this is probably the best one jt and lady cee that i have watched man ya'll hit it on the head on how to deal with our family and friends that are j.w. thank you so much
FREEDOM IS THE NEW WEALTH...Excellent Excellent video!!! 👏 Wow.
Brilliant conversation with a brilliant guest. Keep ‘em coming JT and Lady C. I love your program. You have top notch guests all the time. Really enjoyed listening to Jack. He made a bunch of killer points. Glad he retained his immediate family and got them out.
Thanks for your support
@@ExJWCriticalThinker - and you both likewise made some amazing comments as usual. Keep them coming.. 👍👌
Great interview! I enjoyed this a lot!
I really like it when you interview elders and they highlight what made them question/leave the organization. I think it is a powerful tool to help many others leave or “progress” to being PIMO.
The overlapping generation garbage is what has helped many of us see the light
Lady Cee, JT and Jack Grey....thank you so much! I have to watch this again. Bless you all and enjoy your weekend.
Glad you enjoyed it
Lady C you are a real one. You stuck by your husband, when he wake up that's what's up. 💯 💪🏾👍🏾
This podcast right here was so powerful!…I ❤️ JT and Lady C!… Completely 100% correct, and on point!… Thank you for sharing your story!
Thanks for supporting us
Great conversation. He had a lot of really good analogies.
Yea he did
I've been slowly waking up for the past year now, and very recently I really woke up! Thank you so much for sharing these videos, they are truly an eye-opener, and I totally understand having to restart back to the basics and asking yourself, what is truth? I am a critical thinker, I always have been but I also was blinded by the doctrines and the fears associated with it. I am now on a new path of finding my own peace with my Creator. This year will be a year of reconciliation for me, to come into terms with all that was stolen from me, that being, my time. Again, this was a great podcast! Keep up the great work!! 🤍
This was an outstanding video. It should be seen by as many people as possible. ❤
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video! Jack is so well spoken and insightful! Lady Cee and JT, your interaction with him was incredibly engaging. Thank you to all three of you!
👍👍🥰❤️❤️❤️
Glad you enjoyed it
When did you leave
@@ExJWCriticalThinker I left in 2019… I was totally devoted to JW till my eyes were opened to the truth about the truth. However I stayed in for three years due to family.. I was sacred that my husband would have divorced me and I was scared of shunning. My nephew at 17 told the family he did not want to be a witness and the family was getting down on him. I remember feeling like I can’t allow this to happen to him. I spoke up on his behalf. I decided to tell my husband that I no longer wanted to attend the meetings. Crying talking screaming I told him… my husband was PIMO and had been for 15 years…. I was shocked… my whole family left 2019…. We are not disfellowship yet but at this point I don’t care! We is free! We is freeeeee🙏🏾…..
@@ExJWCriticalThinker, I started fading in 1998/1999 and completely walked away in 2000. My middle child tried going back in 2002/2003(?) but experienced the hypocrisy and double standards first-hand and left. As JT always says, "Nobody does hypocrisy like Watchtower!" My eldest never accepted it and my youngest happily left it behind, so we are all free of the burden that being a JW puts on you.
Wow!!!! Wisdom truly was given to this guy to be saved and to save his family
Thank you
Thank you all very much for this video. I told my spouse. This video is now my “Gold Standard Video” on how to leave the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The details on what to expect are spot on. I highly recommend every PIMO listen closely to the advice provided. How to avoid the very common pitfalls when telling your friends and family why you are leaving or doubting, is very important information. I wish you all the very best! Thank you JT, Lady C and Jack.
Yes one must leave in a manner that
allows folks to keel their mental sanity
And not breakdown and lose it
We have seen that too many times
Folks just didn't know how to leave
JT
Thank you
Amazing how clear and detailed you have told the realities of this organization. You are right they are blinded and it’s a shame because they are so smart.
It's amazing we didn't see this stuff years ago
Thank you Jack, ofcourse we would not have learned from you if it was not for the great work of this lovely couple, Lady Cee and JT.👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
this is one of the best waking up videos I've seen to date. Thanks JT and Lady C!! You are presenting experiences and critical thinking in a manor everyone (JW or not) can relate to.
Great Job 👍 JT and Ladycee
Power over Deception and Deceivers (one minute 24 seconds) ruclips.net/video/C5RYOdxLFXY/видео.html
Thz
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Keep up the Great Work Appreciated 👍
Believe whatever you want to believe, disgree if you want, but stay in the truth. And thus, the PIMO was born. Once your eyes are opened and you know the truth, you MUST act on it, there is no "just stay in". Human beings are simply not programmed to function with such incongruence, we must believe what we're doing otherwise it just doesn't work! And what about when we find out something we were doing or something we believed was totally wrong? We must change! Excellent excellent videos guys. I must say, in general I love the resolve that these brothers from other countries have. They find out the truth about the truth and they act on that, no fence sitting.
Signs You Are in a Cult? (55 seconds)
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Glad you enjoyed the vid
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Always! Thanks guys!
So true
I agree so much about having a decent real conversation
Haven't experienced one of those in 8 years
All J. W too paranoid and mentally dead.
When at zoom meeting it's like Zombies We seem to be the only ones Not on medication
Looking forward to meeting some new authentic people again.
Kev
I would suggest searching for support groups in the area, regarding ex JW’s
It can be a big help
Couldn’t agree more
Rev 16 did foretell many would blaspheme..the weight of opposition..social media filled with experiences of how badly some have been treated.
It's as if it's deliberate !!
🤔🤔🤔🤔
It's harsh policies !!
Iron rod literally..rev 19:15.
Christ..not apostates or other kinder denominations..is to sheperd with an iron rod
Breaking to pieces..
Rev 2:27
I say it's families being broken and torn apart ..
It got the attention of the president of Russia !!
Gog with clouds..clouds covering the land..whst was ezekiel trying to convey ,?
Internet ?
Social media ?
Connected..People around the globe can unite against the governing body !!
Here we are..
That part of the Prophecy is fulfilled !
What's left ?
See ezek 38:20-22
If Elders applied the same standards to themselves as they did when appointing other elders none of them would be able to serve, which was one of the many issues that led to me discontinuing my association with this organization, appointments seemed to primarily focused on how buddy buddy the brother was with some of the elders in the cong rather than focusing on bible principles.
Another great interview highlighting the fear, mind control and suppression of "thinking ability" (Prov 3:21) by high control groups. This is very current as this weeks WT study (Par 11) instructs JW's to override their natural thinking ability by just accepting direction that "does not make sense to us", and this is enforced with fear of disobedience resulting in death as a result of "the storm coming on the wicked". Thanks Jack, JT and Lady Cee.
This is one of your best interviews by far and y’all have had great interviews in the past ! Loved how he broke down the mindset of JW’s and felt so relieved that his wife eventually woke up ! Thank you so much for this, I hope this helps others wake up !
thank you
Loved the three layers of truth (objective, authoritative, and from personal experience)! I won’t forget them as I continue to work on my own critical thinking.
I can certainly agree with you comments on that
Amazing interview! Thank you Lady C, JT and Jack! The truth must always come out. One way or another. I’m so grateful for channels like this. Keep up the good work exposing this high control group. I’m awake only recently and am dealing with family shunning. Supposed friends in the congregation dropped me like a hot cake in seconds. Such a cruel mindset. True mind control. I keep hoping and praying for my loved ones to wake up.
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. This right here helped me to understand my family members’ mindset. The point made about not forcing anything - so valuable. They will shut down. Gaslight you. It’s better to live your best life stay focused. Jack’s story was so compelling. Thank you!!! 🎯🎯🎯🏆🏆🏆
Thanks for your support
Thank you
Thanks!
Thanks for your support!!! ❤❤❤
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Always Family! Keep up the Great Work #Courage
@@ExJWCriticalThinker All different churches including exjws are working for who and what is their future according to the Bible????????
@@vusimngomezulu2500 All religions including JWs are ALL false religion.
Is Christmas a Day for Christians? (one minute 36 seconds)
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JT is SO well spoken! masterful
Trying to keep real that's all
When did you leave?
JT
The Future of White supremacy (1 minute 5 seconds) ruclips.net/video/gykujXt8mqc/видео.html
@@ExJWCriticalThinker I left about 5 yrs ago. Never ever looking back!
This was excellent! Thank you, Jack, Lady Cee and JT!
Glad you enjoyed it
When did you leave
Power over Deception and Deceivers (one minute 24 seconds) ruclips.net/video/C5RYOdxLFXY/видео.html
Man you all be dropping alot of content recently. Keep it up JT and lady c
Just Trying to keep it real
JT
It is the Truth what is said here b4 I was appointed a ministerial Servant. I asked and Elder what I have to do. Putting more hours to the Hours I put in my Report Sheet. I went from 10hrs to 18 and attending the Meetings/Preachings regularly, then I became Ministarial Servant and more Efforts to become an Elder but after many Researches on Generation, Inspired and 2014 Feb not inspired etc, made me to leave the Organisation with my Family after 37years wasted Years
Best Interview yet. Wish I had his attitude years ago.
Loving this free agency!!Think think think for yourself
JC, Lady C and Jack: Thank you so much for sharing your story. It took me 20 years and the pandemic to woke up, because after my escape I didn't do any research on the internet. So January 2020 I overcome my fears and clicked the enter bottom, JW and the pandemic. And then BOOM 💣💥. The ARC in Australia, 23.000 cases of child abuse in the USA and so on.
We have to help each other
JT
One of the best interviews I have seen yet. Very relatable, helpful and informative.
I could relate to both Jack’s wife’s reaction as that was me when my husband woke up before me and Jack’s reaction when he woke up and felt his work entirely shattered. I woke up in June 2021. My husband and I have both escaped together with our two little girls. We feel both grateful and very lucky. Now it’s time to rebuild.
Thanks JT, Lady Cee and Jack.
Some of the most excellent reasoning from your guest, that I have ever heard ... including about the way the Gov Body ask questions in publications, Watchtower etc
All the fears he had are the same as mine ... thank you!!!!!
There is nothing worse than to work with or for a Jehovah's Witness.
Why? Because of the emotional blackmail?
@@donnyetta - There are many reasons. Witnesses are never expected to take each other to court. So, bosses will tend to cheat on other Witness employees knowing they will, at most, only go to the elders, who won't do crap.
I can give you many examples of people I know who were taken advantage of by fellow Witness bosses.
Masterpiece interview ***FREEDOM*** #COURAGE
Excellent interview. It's amazing how scared we all feel when we wake up, I woke up in the pandemic and already had several doubts, but I was always too afraid to ask I had doubts about the generation, about the use of blood fractions, I also didn't like preaching, I was happy with the pandemic and felt guilty for being happy. So I started researching with a lot of fear, after I discovered the lies I entered the zoom link, turned down the volume and watched the "apostate" channels. LOL. Greetings to all ex JW direct from Brazil 🇧🇷
The more I've listened to Apostate YTubes, the more shocked I am about the shunning. I faded some 40 yrs ago, but no family in the cult, so faced no shunning. I realise now what a soft landing I had. Its only now when I hear these personal stories that it breaks my heart for all my former brothers and sisters - we are all one family now of Apostates - there, I've said it now. I've pasted the label on myself, and I'm perfectly OK with that. Even though I'd faded 40 yrs ago, I thought I was wicked and they still had the Truth - and I used to say so. Then in mid October 2021, I listened to an "Apostate JW" YT with much trepidation. It look 1 hour - 1 short hour, to make me do a 180 degree turn around. Something I NEVER thought would happen. But I'm glad I had the courage to carry on listening. My life changed in that 1 hour. Then reading Crisis of Conscience was the COMPLETE destruction of my ability to EVER go back. I will never be seen in a Kingdom Hall again as long as I draw breath in my body. I am free.
This was a GREAT INTERVIEW. You guys are so good at interviewing your guests❤️ Sending love from California.
Hello fellow Californian 🤪I'm in nor cal myself
Thanks
Are you in the LA area?
JT
@@ExJWCriticalThinker I’m from Fresno 😁
Hi guys from San Diego it would be awesome to have a group of ex jw here!
one of the best Interviews you have ever done. Jack, thank you for your work!!
Thank you
This is one of your best videos. That part about Loyalty and obedience over truth and logic (and love) is 💯💯💯.
Quite amazing and exciting interview. Had a lot to learn from this. Thanks Lady CEE & JT
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing your story Jake
Excellent, a sensible video and yet still respectful to the JWs still in, who are strong believers. This is important to me personally because I don’t listen to Apostates who are nasty about the organisation. So far you’ve got the balance just right.
Excellent job, this brother/ friend did an excellent job with his testimony and verbalizing his experience 👏
Hands down this is the Best interview you have done...
Thanks
Thank you
Whew when he broke down the appointment process this is exactly what got me and my husband. He was like I'm not anyone's project. They truly want you be their "theocratic project." So glad we are away from that. Smh. I need to check out this book.
Great point
I really appreciate this. I studied with the Witnesses in 2015 after independently coming to similar theological beliefs as them on certain issues. I was really excited that they were the "truth" I was looking for, but I couldn't understand why the same critical thinking skills that helped me come to a more accurate understanding of the Bible (on which the Witnesses themselves even agreed) would have to be immediately abandoned after I was baptized! I'm very grateful I didn't make one of the biggest mistakes of my life in joining the organization.
if you believe anything the same as a high control group i would reexamine your truth. blessings to you
Jack you’re so funny !!! Thank you ! Great interview
Thank you
From my experience after 40 years as a JW all appointments were based on "field service" report.
Yep how much time you spent hawking wt books
Excellent video
Thank you for sharing this video!
Glad you enjoyed it
good job Jack i really like the video also happy you left with your family
I truly feel your pain. I am suffering the shunning despite no elder intervention. I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before they call me into accountability. It’s so much more than wrong doing…. No infidelity or such matters. I suffer the loss of my adult son. I smoke and abuse alcohol. I hide myself in shame from them. I hope I never hear from them again. They know the story- maybe out of compassion they hold off. . I hold my breath constantly that they won’t add to my burden. It would devastate my life.
Quick question
Why do you think you have such fear of these men despite that none of them pay ONE bill in your home?
Look forward to your thoughts
JT
Thank you JT for your interest. I know that a more rational view would be to acknowledge that they do have a somewhat limited effect on my life… they don’t pay my bills but they lord over me the prospect of loosing my family. Already I experience the shunning of close family and friends. Self righteous members that say their devotion to Jehovah is what drives their actions despite their suffering at loosing me. There is no reasoning with them. In fact I could not share my thoughts-- they’re content to accept I’m spiritual weak and have been beaten down by this system. They believe that I should pull it together because of their hope of the resurrection. After 3 years I’m still struggling with my loss.
It’s true, it is strange to feel fear of men who shouldn’t have any authority over you, but the truth is, we are being held hostage by them. The power to take away everyone you care about is an incredible power that no one should have.
Great job guys! When I ordered Crises of Conscience from amazon, I knew a jw who worked there and I thought man, he’s probably gonna catch me! Lol
I know the feeling
JT
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES LISTEN TO THIS BROTHER. HIDE IF YOU HAVE TO AND LISTEN. PRAY FOR GODS STRENGTH , COURAGE AND PATHWAY OF GODS REAL TRUTH.
Which is?
I enjoyed this interview very much! Looking forward to get his book!!
Thank you!!
Don't be scared, be courageous... transform from Saul to Paul
It was such a pleasure speaking with you guys. I hope to see you in person one day.
Jack you’re such a great communicator. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Are you atheist? Do you still affiliate with religion?
@@raeroms9589 I no longer affiliate with any religion. I am not convinced God exists.
@@feartofreedom2972
Check out America's blessings by Rodney stark..
How religion benefits everyone, including atheists
Bless you!
Watchtower has Destroyed so many Lives
***Read*** Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz
God bless you for helping those in need. That is what Jesus Christ is all about & much more...To God to be glory
10:14 - This is one of the best illustrations I've ever heard... Ever.
Love the format of these INTERVIEWS !! 😏👌
I Believe that their Truly Helping Many people to OPEN their Eyes WIDER !! 👀
Good going guys !! 😉👍
Thz
Just a big THANK YOU for all the critical thinking videos
My wife and I are united (which is a blessing) this very day we are submitting our Disassociating formal letter to the Body elders and we are sending out a gentle goodbye to the Congregation and a Brutal resignation to the Elders
I know that You said to go gently, but really the Elders really deserve to get back the Fear and hate that they promote.
I can't water down my letter...
Anyway will keep up with your support
Ex Ministerial Servant
Kevin
Thanks to you all for Today
You are welcome
Should You Shun? (14 minutes 31 seconds) ruclips.net/video/fuVnMIvFzsc/видео.html
@Kevin Randall. The Society is brutal. Elders and Circuit Overseers are often brutal. It's about time they understand the laws of sowing and reaping (Hos. 8:7; Gal. 6:7-8). A brutal, scathing letter is what the elders deserve. Your pattern is not unlike that of Jesus. He was gentle and firm with hurting, searching people. He was brutally firm with the hypocrites, AKA the scribes and Pharisees. Congratulations on your freedom! Jesus is the truth!!
@@mitchmiller2382 Thanks Mitch for your comments
Yep totally agree I have never felt comfortable with regarding the elders in the cong
Evil corruption from the Top down
Kevin, please let us know how it went down and how you are feeling!! I would love to hear your follow up
I am grateful I got out, my childhood was ruined, my parents converted when I was 5 years old, took until my late 30's to get help and understanding of my trama from the JW cult. I hope all listen to this group to get the help I didn't have when I was younger.
Absolutely fantastic from Jack Grey. I so also agreed on the psychology aspect. I came out in 1984, no Internet, all my studying from library and I became interested in lateral thinking and all of that. Also liked to read anyway and books like 1984 by George Orwell certainly hit home. But mainly I also read different translations and looked closely at the interlinear NWT. I still believed so went to church for 7 years firstly before taking a closer more indepth look at the bible itself. I am a spiritual person but not religious now. Only thing wt said right for me was religion is a snare and a racket ( judge Rutherford). Lots of love exjw from across the pond. X
So glad that more and more people that are exposing this Cult for what it is, this destructive, deceptive organization.
4 times I watch this Enjoyed very much
Wow. Thank you 🙏
Love your work! Thank you both very much 😊
You are welcome
This is such a great interview JT and Lady C. I had to watch it twice. So much wonderful experiences between everyone. Yes, we can move forward and carve a better life for ourselves. I hear such gratitude, love, and courage questioning and taking that leap over the edge to find out their was never a cliff. I will continue to follow all three of you because you supported my waking up and living an authentic life. These interviews keep me on the path that continues to get brighter.
O my goodness
Leaping and all the while there was no Cliff
Priceless statement
We all have to use that phrase
JT
That was a deep statement
Can we use it and credit you of course
This is why we say everyone needs to let their voice be heard
We all have something to add
JT
JT and Lady C, of course you can use my comment. Very honored you found it delightful.
What a great interview! ❤👍
Thx for your support
You guys need a 24 hour network.
Too funny
Thz
Absolutely loved the video 👏 excellent...comments. I wish I could have received this information 30 plus years ago. I truly wish you the best in life. I definitely thank you for you're experiences.
Thz
Being a part of authoring the book was so healing and a wonderful experience.
I thank Jack for taking the time to round us all up and help impact others through the book!
So very heart felt. Thanks for sharing!
You are so welcome!
Excellent video. Great points made. Thanks guys.
Thz for your support
@@ExJWCriticalThinker Thank you for your Courage and Sacrifice
I honestly think this may have been the best interview I’ve ever heard. Thanks so much JT and lady C for the work you’re doing and thanks to Jack for your work. It is truly noble to help young teens who have been thrown out by their own parents. I’ve heard of examples of this in my own area. I think that when the Bible talks about people having “ no natural affection “, this is one of the best examples of that. I wish they could see the harm they’re doing.
My father was born a Catholic, too. However, he never attended a Catholic service when I knew him. He didn’t even know the order of the service at my grandfather’s funeral (neither did I nor my brother). Thank goodness he never converted!
Thanks for all these wonderful positive videos. All these help us everyday to stay positive and not live our life in constant anger. ❤️
This was one of the best interviews I have seen, great job.
I remember the highlight for many attending conventions was "I wonder what new light we're gonna get?" LOL
This interview was amazing! Very helpful! Thank you very much Lady Cee, JT and Jack!
Love this interview! Already knew history. I own his book but still super interesting to hear his story again.
Glad you enjoyed itv