Regarding justifying the upcharge for the hybrid: RVers towing smaller/lighter travel trailers may have an easier time justifying the cost for one reason - the 7200 watt inverter. The onboard inverter can easily eliminate the need to carry a portable generator and a gas can. Even a 3500 watt portable generator weighs close to 100 lbs, takes up bed space, must be secured and reduces the cargo capacity of the truck. Unless you are boondocking and need to run a generator while your truck is away from camp, the 7200 watt inverter could justify the added cost. This will be particularly true for CA residents who will soon face a ban on the sale of portable generators. It's too bad a similar system isn't offered in a Super Duty for those of us requiring an HD tow rig. Thanks for the review, Justin.
The best part is the pro power works while the truck is moving. You can leave the travel trailer plugged into the truck keeping the refrigerator or air conditioner running while it’s being towed by the truck.
I’ve got 15,000 miles on mine so far in May 2024. I just started getting 26 to 28 miles to the gallon consistently on every trip. Love the power. Very smooth road. Probably the best truck I’ve had in the past 35 years and I had the F350 since 2013.
Hey JB, my pastor has this truck (2021 model) and part of his ministry is to feed the homeless as well as putting up inflatables free of charge at some schools and churches, and what is amazing, this truck can totally run the churches concession trailer which includes popcorn machine, cotton candy, freezer, hot water and more, and uses very little fuel while the power system is running. We found towing the concession trailer we get much better MPG if we use 91-94 octane fuel, but used reg fuel when not towing. The trailer is around 6,000# loaded and gets around 12 with premium fuel, and 8mpg on reg fuel, without towing around 24 mpg or better.. We tow our inflatables with a 2016 F-350 dully with a 2022 ATC 40' gooseneck trailer, love your videos and watch them all, keep them coming JB,, big fan!
Oh wow, I was wondering about consumption when using the truck as a generator. How much power do you think that is when everything is running? I’ve always mentioned premium fuel is better especially when you’re working the engine at peak and maybe I will have a chance to test this when I get my gas pickups! Thanks James, really appreciate it 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I not sure about how much output power but I remember the advertisements saying it could run your whole house, it is a phenomenal truck for what we do, and never ceases to impress, that's why it's so important to do research on your specific need before you pull a trigger on your truck choice.
The Pro Power on Board is a game changer. Ford knows the truck market probably better than anyone else. They know typical truck buyers aren’t big on green technology so they made green technology a truck feature. It’s a hybrid but it also powers your worksite or your campground. Activities that people do with their trucks. Not only an engineering marvel but a marketing boss move.
If I was in the market for a half ton truck, this would be the top of my list to test drive. The onboard power I absolutely if you had a power outage at home and needed to plug in a few items. With that being said 76k and it’s not even a top trim is crazy. Nice breakdown.
Yea ford kills everyone with first to market and that 7KW of power is pretty insane! Can’t wait to post the MPG run I did against the baby Duramax 👀… thanks bro 👍🏾
I currently own this truck but my TT is on the edge of to big. I love this truck but am looking at a 23 f350 7.3. That's how I found your channel. Plus we are neighbors.
The hybrid is the best F-150 to own. They discontinued the 3.0PSD in 2021. Pro Power Onboard (high-output AC power) is a lifesaver during an outage - like what’s happening in the Midwest right now, after the ice storm. Millions without power this morning. Payload is lacking but you can’t have it all 🤷♂️
@@JB_WhoWork for sure.... the lightning is "good" and it has onboard power of its own..... but the problem is..... it doesn't MAKE (generate) electricity. So it'll run your house for a while...... until the battery dies. Then you're back to having no heat or electricity at home.... and you've got a dead F-150 Lightning in the driveway. The hybrid can power your house for as long as you can keep it topped off on fuel, which is a very long time!!! Days and weeks.
Thank's for yours videos and comments! Great quality both! I think the powerboost will accomplish any normal work and family recreation task. Big hug from CDMX! Thank you.
I would love a hd hybrid with a gas, diesel or a turbo gas engine. The built in generator for the farm, camping, ranch, and hunting would be the Bee’s knees. The uses would be endless from branding cows to running an RV.
A bit misleading to say its a $3300 difference but its only $1800 more than the ecoboost. Its $3300 up from the base 2.7l. You also get a ton better mileage in city driving.
My lease is coming up and I’m about to get another F150. I should NOT be wrecking my brain over this Powerboost…but I am. With the cost of it being the same as the regular 3.5L, it’s an option. I don’t tow, I use my bed for my boys bikes, Home Depot mulch and lumber run…..and hauling my photo gear. I currently have a XLT with a 2.7 and it has done fine. I guess I’m just hesitant on the reliability of the Powerboost. I quit! 🥴😩 🤦🏾♂️
Not going to lie, the Ford does have some nice features. Hate the double-decker headlights. Seems like Ford and GMC can't figure out how to have a single row. At that expense too, LED lighting should have been standard on everything. The only other comment I would make is that the Tundra Hybrid out towards this truck by a lot, 3500 pounds. Fanboys always argue that the Ford does more, not at this trim level.
This would be tempting for a 1/2 ton. Especially for preppers and people wanting to camp off grid. Cool that the interior plug is a full 20A. But $76k for a mid trim half ton🤔🇺🇸💪
I priced a 2024 XLT on Build Your Truck. The difference between the XLT with 3.5 and PB with the 7.2 Kw was around $2200. Where are you going to get 30 HP 70 TQ and 7.2 Kw generator for $2200, without giving up any bed capacity?
That payload is low. My 2021 XLT is equipped very similar to this truck with 5.0 V8, and it has a payload of 1,804. The 3.5 ecoboost would best my number 50 to 100 pounds. The only option that I don't have is the step in the tailgate and the powerboat on the tailgate, but I have the power down on it. The batteries must take a lot off the payload.
DON'T BELIEVE THE STICKER MILEAGE! I have a 2023 F150 Hybrid Lariat with 7400miles and am sending it back via Lemon Law. There have been so many electric programing issues it isn't worth the money anymore. The sticker noted 23mpg city/hwy is also way off. I drive pretty conservatively and at best I'm getting 22Hwy and 18City but the combined is at best 19mpg. At this point the hybrid engine barely kicks on anymore. Don't get me wrong though. It is a beautiful truck and very comfortable drive with a ton of speed and power. Towing is a whole other issue. I towed a 4800lb gvwr getting about 8mpg. I understand the I wouldn't get normal mpg but was hoping for at least 12mpg. All I can say at this point is Buyer Beware!
You pay a lot for this truck for sure. This is not a purchase for the average buyer or faint of heart. The MSRP is enough alone to give one a coronary. I own the 2021 Lariat 501a and love it and have been happy to have added it to our fleet, so far. It’s all about the overall versatility and if you will use or benefit from the high tech features. I think as far as CR is concerned, that one, should be taken with a grain of salt and do one’s own due diligence. For the record I pd $65k on a $68k truck with Fords sixty month financing and @ 0% interest. Don’t think you can realise that same deal today but giver that old college try. Like this ol boy you might be able to own the vehicle you want and need using Fords money to own it and interest free to boot. I wish all the very best on your next purchase. JL
@@JB_WhoWork Yeah it was a 2021 lariat Powerboost. The interior clips to move the vents around literally just broke off randomly on the drivers side, the center console rattled the day I got it, a whistling noise came in through the driver’s window, the engine light would come on and off when I hit bumps, the brakes made a loud and noisy creaking noise every time I stopped, and the apple car play didn’t work due to a recall that the Ford dealer wanted a week to repair. Switched back to GMC and got a 2022 Sierra and have been absolutely problem free. Never going back to ford again.
Too bad they don't offer the f150 with hybrid and heavy duty payload package. Maybe a gvwr like the last generation 8200 would be nice to have cause that truck had the max tow but with payload you'd probably not be able to use it all.
Too much complexity for down the road when it's off warranty. $1500 plus more expensive than the standard 3.5. 3 mpg difference between the two? That will take me about 5 years of miles to makeup cost difference.
$76k!!! for 23 mpg?! Hell no! This truck isn’t worth $50k!!! It should have a Lithium Ion battery instead of NiMH and it should get 30mpg! With todays interest rates, very few people will buy this.
I have got to say. This truck after a year is so annoying to drive. I have never experienced a vehicle that is so insecure. This thing can't go 30 seconds without some warning screen or bell or ridiculously loud horn honk. It's like a toddler. You constantly have to reassure it that you know what your doing and they aren't settings that you can turn off without paying Someone. ( trust me, I've looked) It never makes you feel like you own it or are smart enough to drive it. It just can't get over itself. For all of the tech on board, the app is trash. It won't tell you if one of your kids didn't shut the door when unloading groceries or if you forgot to lock it at the mall but it will be sure to notify you if your local dealer has something on sale. It's like I'm renting it just waiting for the electric involuntary seat belt to come whizzing over my shoulder so I can start it. It is tech for techs sake. As a machine, it works great and does everything I need well. I just wish it would understand who owns it.
This f150 is super nice. However these lariats are just too much. From the price to all the useless electronics that they add. Maybe im a little old fashioned, but i don’t need trailer backup assist or blue cruise or 25 different camera views to drive a pickup. And as far as that hybrid crap….they can keep it.
Regarding justifying the upcharge for the hybrid: RVers towing smaller/lighter travel trailers may have an easier time justifying the cost for one reason - the 7200 watt inverter.
The onboard inverter can easily eliminate the need to carry a portable generator and a gas can. Even a 3500 watt portable generator weighs close to 100 lbs, takes up bed space, must be secured and reduces the cargo capacity of the truck.
Unless you are boondocking and need to run a generator while your truck is away from camp, the 7200 watt inverter could justify the added cost. This will be particularly true for CA residents who will soon face a ban on the sale of portable generators.
It's too bad a similar system isn't offered in a Super Duty for those of us requiring an HD tow rig.
Thanks for the review, Justin.
The best part is the pro power works while the truck is moving. You can leave the travel trailer plugged into the truck keeping the refrigerator or air conditioner running while it’s being towed by the truck.
I’ve got 15,000 miles on mine so far in May 2024. I just started getting 26 to 28 miles to the gallon consistently on every trip. Love the power. Very smooth road. Probably the best truck I’ve had in the past 35 years and I had the F350 since 2013.
Hey JB, my pastor has this truck (2021 model) and part of his ministry is to feed the homeless as well as putting up inflatables free of charge at some schools and churches, and what is amazing, this truck can totally run the churches concession trailer which includes popcorn machine, cotton candy, freezer, hot water and more, and uses very little fuel while the power system is running. We found towing the concession trailer we get much better MPG if we use 91-94 octane fuel, but used reg fuel when not towing. The trailer is around 6,000# loaded and gets around 12 with premium fuel, and 8mpg on reg fuel, without towing around 24 mpg or better.. We tow our inflatables with a 2016 F-350 dully with a 2022 ATC 40' gooseneck trailer, love your videos and watch them all, keep them coming JB,, big fan!
Oh wow, I was wondering about consumption when using the truck as a generator. How much power do you think that is when everything is running?
I’ve always mentioned premium fuel is better especially when you’re working the engine at peak and maybe I will have a chance to test this when I get my gas pickups! Thanks James, really appreciate it 👍🏾👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I not sure about how much output power but I remember the advertisements saying it could run your whole house, it is a phenomenal truck for what we do, and never ceases to impress, that's why it's so important to do research on your specific need before you pull a trigger on your truck choice.
Jbz, please try to tow test one of these, Even better if you get the 157 wheelbase
The Pro Power on Board is a game changer. Ford knows the truck market probably better than anyone else. They know typical truck buyers aren’t big on green technology so they made green technology a truck feature. It’s a hybrid but it also powers your worksite or your campground. Activities that people do with their trucks. Not only an engineering marvel but a marketing boss move.
I agree, this truck is a game changer and when I heard about the onboard power, I actually applauded lol 👍🏾
23k on my Powerboost. No problems so far.If you pull a Travel Trailer it’s a no brainer. Makes Boone docking a dream.
Whats your avg mpg?
So far best truck I’ve ever owned!
If I was in the market for a half ton truck, this would be the top of my list to test drive. The onboard power I absolutely if you had a power outage at home and needed to plug in a few items. With that being said 76k and it’s not even a top trim is crazy. Nice breakdown.
Yea ford kills everyone with first to market and that 7KW of power is pretty insane! Can’t wait to post the MPG run I did against the baby Duramax 👀… thanks bro 👍🏾
Once ford makes a super duty powerboost with the 7.2 kw, I'm all in....
Ahh man, that would be game over 👍🏾
THANK YOU! been trying to learn what all my buttons do for two weeks now.
I currently own this truck but my TT is on the edge of to big. I love this truck but am looking at a 23 f350 7.3. That's how I found your channel. Plus we are neighbors.
Ford F150’s typically have great payload but nothing wrong with a 7.3L! Lol, we should get some videos in bro 👍🏾👍🏾
The hybrid is the best F-150 to own. They discontinued the 3.0PSD in 2021. Pro Power Onboard (high-output AC power) is a lifesaver during an outage - like what’s happening in the Midwest right now, after the ice storm. Millions without power this morning. Payload is lacking but you can’t have it all 🤷♂️
Great point, I would prefer this over the Lightning 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork for sure.... the lightning is "good" and it has onboard power of its own..... but the problem is..... it doesn't MAKE (generate) electricity. So it'll run your house for a while...... until the battery dies. Then you're back to having no heat or electricity at home.... and you've got a dead F-150 Lightning in the driveway. The hybrid can power your house for as long as you can keep it topped off on fuel, which is a very long time!!! Days and weeks.
Thank's for yours videos and comments!
Great quality both!
I think the powerboost will accomplish any normal work and family recreation task.
Big hug from CDMX!
Thank you.
Thanks brothe r and I agree, it is perfect for small trailers around 6000#’s 👍🏾
I would love a hd hybrid with a gas, diesel or a turbo gas engine. The built in generator for the farm, camping, ranch, and hunting would be the Bee’s knees. The uses would be endless from branding cows to running an RV.
Yup an HD with high output AC would be a game changer for the RV / camper community.
@@ArmyProperty farmers and ranchers also. We have to fire up a generator at deer camp it would be nice to just plug into the truck.
Yea if Ford puts a hybrid system with the 6.8L gas engine I would be interested 👍🏾
@JB Reviews Good point. Ford would probably start there since that would be the engine for the work truck XL base.
Best truck out there I have the 2021 lariat and I love it!
A bit misleading to say its a $3300 difference but its only $1800 more than the ecoboost. Its $3300 up from the base 2.7l. You also get a ton better mileage in city driving.
My lease is coming up and I’m about to get another F150. I should NOT be wrecking my brain over this Powerboost…but I am. With the cost of it being the same as the regular 3.5L, it’s an option. I don’t tow, I use my bed for my boys bikes, Home Depot mulch and lumber run…..and hauling my photo gear. I currently have a XLT with a 2.7 and it has done fine. I guess I’m just hesitant on the reliability of the Powerboost. I quit! 🥴😩 🤦🏾♂️
Not going to lie, the Ford does have some nice features. Hate the double-decker headlights. Seems like Ford and GMC can't figure out how to have a single row. At that expense too, LED lighting should have been standard on everything. The only other comment I would make is that the Tundra Hybrid out towards this truck by a lot, 3500 pounds. Fanboys always argue that the Ford does more, not at this trim level.
This would be tempting for a 1/2 ton. Especially for preppers and people wanting to camp off grid. Cool that the interior plug is a full 20A. But $76k for a mid trim half ton🤔🇺🇸💪
True, a few people around me have this exact truck. Lol, I said the same thing $80k is steep for mid level pickup that’s a 1/2 ton 💪🏾🇺🇸
I paid $65k for a 2022 F-150 Platinum 4x2. It’s insane they charging this much.
The Powerboost replaces the Powerstroke. This is one of the best powertrains available in a half-ton. With 7.2kW power, it can power a house.
Yup, it’s hard to beat and you wouldn’t be able to run the diesel at idle all the time 👍🏾
I priced a 2024 XLT on Build Your Truck. The difference between the XLT with 3.5 and PB with the 7.2 Kw was around $2200.
Where are you going to get 30 HP 70 TQ and 7.2 Kw generator for $2200, without giving up any bed capacity?
This thing is as fast as a raptor I was shocked at the speed, comfort and fuel economy
I think you should get one of these trucks and would have your RV and diesel and use that truck for a very long term
What is the mileage for a tank of gas as a hybrid?
That payload is low. My 2021 XLT is equipped very similar to this truck with 5.0 V8, and it has a payload of 1,804. The 3.5 ecoboost would best my number 50 to 100 pounds. The only option that I don't have is the step in the tailgate and the powerboat on the tailgate, but I have the power down on it. The batteries must take a lot off the payload.
DON'T BELIEVE THE STICKER MILEAGE! I have a 2023 F150 Hybrid Lariat with 7400miles and am sending it back via Lemon Law. There have been so many electric programing issues it isn't worth the money anymore. The sticker noted 23mpg city/hwy is also way off. I drive pretty conservatively and at best I'm getting 22Hwy and 18City but the combined is at best 19mpg. At this point the hybrid engine barely kicks on anymore. Don't get me wrong though. It is a beautiful truck and very comfortable drive with a ton of speed and power. Towing is a whole other issue. I towed a 4800lb gvwr getting about 8mpg. I understand the I wouldn't get normal mpg but was hoping for at least 12mpg. All I can say at this point is Buyer Beware!
Love the truck… no way I’m paying $77k for a pickup truck.. I’m out
Hi, you need to test drive it, Love mine.👍
Video coming soon!
You pay a lot for this truck for sure.
This is not a purchase for the average buyer or faint of heart.
The MSRP is enough alone to give one a coronary.
I own the 2021 Lariat 501a and love it and have been happy to have added it to our fleet, so far.
It’s all about the overall versatility and if you will use or benefit from the high tech features.
I think as far as CR is concerned, that one, should be taken with a grain of salt and do one’s own due diligence.
For the record I pd $65k on a $68k truck with Fords sixty month financing and @ 0% interest.
Don’t think you can realise that same deal today but giver that old college try.
Like this ol boy you might be able to own the vehicle you want and need using Fords money to own it and interest free to boot.
I wish all the very best on your next purchase.
JL
I had a Powerboost go a short time. Was unreliable and started to having problems at 15k miles. Got rid of it quickly
No way? That sucks…
@@JB_WhoWork Yeah it was a 2021 lariat Powerboost. The interior clips to move the vents around literally just broke off randomly on the drivers side, the center console rattled the day I got it, a whistling noise came in through the driver’s window, the engine light would come on and off when I hit bumps, the brakes made a loud and noisy creaking noise every time I stopped, and the apple car play didn’t work due to a recall that the Ford dealer wanted a week to repair. Switched back to GMC and got a 2022 Sierra and have been absolutely problem free. Never going back to ford again.
Wait Wait are they doing like RAM with the running boards tire to tire🤦🏿♂️
Does have Wireless Car Play??
Yes
No spray in bedliner for all that money
Too bad they don't offer the f150 with hybrid and heavy duty payload package. Maybe a gvwr like the last generation 8200 would be nice to have cause that truck had the max tow but with payload you'd probably not be able to use it all.
Thanks for sharing, that is kind of silly to not offer max tow with this much power and 3.73 gears…
The price of this truck is why Ford is having sales problems. Ford is taking the opinion of the Gov., we're all fools!
Yea I think this truck should qualify for the $7500 tax credit and then it would be at least in the ballpark 👍🏾
Too much complexity for down the road when it's off warranty. $1500 plus more expensive than the standard 3.5. 3 mpg difference between the two? That will take me about 5 years of miles to makeup cost difference.
I think 3300 is fair price for what you’re getting but 70 k plus for a 501 lariat is insane
$76k!!! for 23 mpg?! Hell no! This truck isn’t worth $50k!!! It should have a Lithium Ion battery instead of NiMH and it should get 30mpg! With todays interest rates, very few people will buy this.
Nice truck but 76k is way to expensive
Yea that price is high for a mid level pickup…
@JB Reviews i love the thought of the hybrid but yea 76k is crazy especially for mid level trim
I have got to say. This truck after a year is so annoying to drive. I have never experienced a vehicle that is so insecure. This thing can't go 30 seconds without some warning screen or bell or ridiculously loud horn honk. It's like a toddler. You constantly have to reassure it that you know what your doing and they aren't settings that you can turn off without paying Someone. ( trust me, I've looked) It never makes you feel like you own it or are smart enough to drive it. It just can't get over itself. For all of the tech on board, the app is trash. It won't tell you if one of your kids didn't shut the door when unloading groceries or if you forgot to lock it at the mall but it will be sure to notify you if your local dealer has something on sale. It's like I'm renting it just waiting for the electric involuntary seat belt to come whizzing over my shoulder so I can start it. It is tech for techs sake. As a machine, it works great and does everything I need well. I just wish it would understand who owns it.
This f150 is super nice. However these lariats are just too much. From the price to all the useless electronics that they add. Maybe im a little old fashioned, but i don’t need trailer backup assist or blue cruise or 25 different camera views to drive a pickup. And as far as that hybrid crap….they can keep it.
Yea...you are DEFINITELY old school. The world is going electric grandpa. This hybrid is just a step in that direction
$76,000 truck is still using incandescent bulbs what a joke
Yea I was surprised by that especially after the redesign
Painted bumpers sucks
The Powerboost has been ranked as one of he most unreliable powertrains
Anything Ford these days is unreliable. #1 in recalls and money spent to fix the problems.