You're welcome, Gangularis. We're happy you enjoyed it. Keep working toward the car. Good thing is every year the prices of the used ones come down a little more. Thanks for watching!
Ha! And we're still here replying to comments, too, Nicholas Patino. Thank you very much for your kind words and we hope you check out some of our more recent reviews. Believe it or not, we think we've gotten a little better at them. :P Thanks for watching!
This car was made for me! I test drove a blue one and fell madly in love with it..... *sigh* That-being-said, it could use some more torque, and...an armrest, but these matters are easily remedied!
Thank you for the kind words, Dominic Rouleau! We truly appreciate it. Stay tuned, because we have some really cool stuff in the pipeline. Thanks for watching!
I hate to be the person to point out a mistake on a video that I really liked, but you mentioned at 3:30 "Toyota's 2.0L boxer engine that was co-developed with Subaru". From everything I've seen on the power train it's Subaru's engine entirely straight out of the forester, but with TRD (Toyota) port injectors, the combination = great. I can see how easy of a mistake it is the block says Toyota and Subaru but the badge on the car says Scion. again just trying to inform what I've heard not just pointing out a mistake, But great video!
Outstanding product by Toyota!. An affordable quality and fun to drive sports car with a beautiful design. I'm purchasing a 2015 model soon. Thank you for sharing this video!.
+Gianflavio FX Ha! That's the spirit! Chris (our presenter) has shoehorned his family in many a small vehicle during testing. We're glad our video helped (kinda). Though we do send our condolences to your kid and anyone else who has to ride shotgun up front with the kid behind them. Thanks for watching!
I hate how people call the frs/brz/gt86 not a true sports car, just because it lacks power. And then compare it to cars such as the s2000/ Nissan z series/and so on. What defines what a sports car is? Better yet define the word sport- an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Now let's define car - a road vehicle, typically with four wheels, powered by an internal combustion engine and able to carry a small number of people. Now let's define sports car - a low-built car designed for performance at high speeds. Now where in that definition does it say the sports car has to be high horsepower? It doesn't what it defines is a car that performs well at high speeds, which and frs/brz/gt86 is capable of. Regardless of how much "power it has in stock version. Your blurred idea of what a sports car is, is like saying golf isn't a a sport because it doesn't require the same extreme physical effort like perhaps hockey/football, tennis does. Which we all know golf is a sport, a sport that is also played on a professional level as well as a fun level, just as hockey/football/tennis is. I rest my case.
Brad Bird A true sports car got to have some power, handling and compete with other cars. Frs handling is good but it underpower and cant compete!!! I used 350z/370z and Honda s2000 for my examples because they have some horsepower and very good handling and compete with other cars.
Definition of a sports car defines, a car as a low-built car designed for performance at high speeds. Explain to me where in that definition that it defines a sports car as needing a certain amount of power or higher to be a sports car. Oh right it doesn't, to be a sports car it just has to be designed to perform better at higher speeds. And hence forth of videos of the frs as sure as hell performs well at high speeds around corners. Of you want to argue the fact make sure you are able to back of your shit with definitions to define what certain things mean.
Thanks for the great review. I have a 2014 frs, automatic transmission and I LOVE it. My previous car was a 2010 Miata. That car seemed sort of cheap and 'tinny' with a shitty sound system compared to my frs.
I did owned one of those back when they hit the market in 2013, boy did i loved that car! Now 4 years later i regret getting rid of it😢 but had no choice! Since it snows here in Chicago, is not suitable to drive in the ice and snow. Coundnt afford a second car, so had to trade it for a jeep wrangler. I do like the jeep! But i had way more enjoyable driving in the frs, i keep saying myself someday i'll get a good used one again. It was a fun little sports car😎👍
I don't know how I missed the FR-S was a 2+2, until your video. I had totally written it off because I thought it was a two-seater. I love to take the kids to car shows and rallies, so I can add it to the list of cars to test drive during my week off. :) Also, great review, well revealed.
now this is a car i would love to put payments in, but since im about to have a child i think i will just keep my 06 dodge durango with 118K miles (paid off) and 2004 4x4 Ford explorer (paid off), i work on my own cars, meaning i can keep a car longer :P
Excellent review, and thanks for showing the car seat in the back. I got a 2 year old son and another one on the way. I think this is still an option, cause I want a rear wheel drive sports coupe.
+Jeremiah P First and foremost, thank you for the kind words, Jeremiah P. We truly appreciate it. Now, on the other subject, we feel you with the rear drive sports coupe. Unfortunately, we wouldn't be totally honest if we didn't say that might be a stretch to get two kids in cars seats in that car with people in front. Especially if one of those child seats is rear facing. We all know the smallest child takes up the most space in a car. LOL But at any rate, stop by your local Scion dealer (well, soon to be just Toyota dealer) and check it out to see if your car seats (and legs) fit. It really was a fun car! Comment back on here if you get it or even if you check out the car in person with the car seats. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you for your comments and thanks for watching, too!
+Eff Taroza We agree, Eff Taroza. Especially once the new car warranty expires. There are some nice aftermarket kits available from notable manufacturers. Thanks for watching!
I've become really interested recently in this car.. but with the used car market going up I'm seeing 2013's for 12 to 15,000 and more! I may buy one in the future but I'm also concerned about specific years and I know that there was a recall for 2013. Any thoughts on that? I've also heard the newer ones have better visibility. Oh, and why would this engine need premium?
Wow! Yeah, this one is an oldie.😂 I'm 5'8 so pretty much all cars fit me decently. If they don't, it's truly a problem. Thanks for checking out the backlog, The_Notorious_9!
@ Statford Lewis you just want to argue all day long, to get your point across and be right. The way I see it is everyone else disagrees with you. And so does the guy who made the video. Fact is, the frs can out perform a shit load of cars even your said examples. It is a "true"low powered sports car. Built to be modified to one's desired taste. At the end of the day I would rather spend 25000 on a car that I plan on modifying then spend 40000+ on a car to do the same thing. At the end of the day. I can get the same amount of power and looks for less. It doesn't matter how much power a car currently has most spend their time ripping it apart and rebuilding with new parts to create a faster car. Stock doesn't mean anything these days it's what the car can become.
Brad Bird As I was saying in my pervious comments a turbo frs will be a true sports if it has a turbo. A stock frs needs a turbo since it is underpower. I already made my point across that's why everyone haven't respond back to me in weeks!!! Everyone don't want to admit that the frs is a little sports car with good handling and underpower.
My point made all you wanna do is argue but fact is its like 10 to 1. Regardless of whether it needs or doesn't need a turbo fact is you can go out by a turbo and put it on. Problem solved. No one said it that more power isn't needed. More power is always more awesome but straight from stock, it's alot better for power gain to go buy a turbo rather then have a small pathetic one pre installed by the manufacturer.
Brad Bird If you read my previous comments my points made everyone look bad that's why they respond back. Frs needs a turbo so it can compete with other cars since it is underpower. It only needs a least 300hp. There are some turbo options for FRS at 5k and a couple at 6k. When you are going to upgrade turbo from n/a you got rebuild the motor so you wont blow your engine!!! People already upgrade turbo from n/a without rebuilding the motor and the motor didn't last that long, Google this "rebuilding motor to upgrade turbo scion FRS" and click FRS300 Rebuild Has Begun..Blown Motor to Built Monster - .
Incorrect, you do not need to rebuild the motor. As most new turbos, especially bolt on systems have already been tuned,to optimize the engine without causing issues. What you need to do, is re-map the ecu, in order, for the engine to register the added power, and optimize the other areas like air flow and shit.... clearly, if they blew the engine, then they didn't remap the ecu. Causing air flow issues, which is why they needed to rebuild to replace parts that got fried.
Oh and your so called Google look up is a forum, which does not specify what happened to cause the motor issue. And FYI he was also using a full blown turbo, which was untuned which is half the reason it failed. When you get some education on cars rather then sending people to look at useless shit. Then come back with your opinion and input. Clearly you don't know shit about cars.
As long as you have the right tires on it, this car should be fine, Adam Faiq. Now, if you live in an area where the roads aren't treated for snow or where they don't get plowed very often, I would suggest something with AWD or 4WD. But if the roads are maintained and you get some good winter or snow tires, this FR-S should work fine. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Its a nice car AT FIRST, but from what I have learned about it from other owners is that after a few months of owning it, they become REALLY TIRED OF THE HIGH NOISE LEVELS inside the car. Go on a long road trip and the loudness of the interior gets really tiring for them, so most of those owners end up selling the car to someone else. My solution to that = remove the pipe from the engine that pipes in engine noise into the cabin, that should fix that.
+Honesty Counts We appreciate your comment, Honesty Counts, and so we figured we'd add a little insight to it. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), noise is a common trait of many sports/performance cars, both inside and outside of the cars -- especially those that are more performance-based, no matter the price. A primary reason is because sound deadening material = weight, which is always a "no-no" for performance. Luckily, there is a category known as GT (Grand Touring) where you can have your cake and eat it, too. These cars typically provide a mix of powerful engines and luxury appointments (hence, the quieter interiors) that allow for a more pleasant long distance drive. The Scion FR-S is not purposed for that. Neither is a Camaro ZL1 or a Ferrari 458. (Yes, extreme examples, but cars that follow the same principle and are VERY loud inside.) There are other choices available for those who want something more civilized for every day driving, but if a true sports car (that doesn't cost an arm and a leg) is what someone is looking for, the Scion FR-S is currently one of the best examples available in the $25k price range. Thanks for watching!
***** Hi Saw Snipy. Down payments to purchase an automobile vary from vehicle to vehicle, as well as a from a person's credit to another person's credit. Not to mention, how much a person can afford to put down. Obviously, the more you pay as a down payment, the less you will have to finance, making your payments lower. A typical amount to use as a down payment is around 10% of the vehicle cost. So if the car is $20k, a down payment of $2k might be paid up front. Keep in mind that many people pay more than that, if they are able, to keep their payments lower. To calculate your estimated monthly payment, many manufacturer websites have payment calculators that allow you to input your interest rate, down payment, vehicle cost, and even trade-in value (if applicable). You also include the length of the loan or lease and the calculator takes care of the rest. Here is a link to Scion's payment calculator: www.scion.com/buy/payment_calculator/ We suggest that you give the calculator a try, inputting different amounts for a down payment so that you have an idea of how much money to will need to purchase the vehicle. Keep in mind that you will also have to pay for insurance, as well. And if you find that the car might still be a little too expensive, start saving what you think your monthly payment will be before you purchase, then use that money as a down payment or add it to the down payment you already have. And if that doesn't seem to work for you, consider certified preowned. That'll save you some cash, too! Hope this helps and thanks for watching! www.autoacademics.net
I bought $1000 down. 1% interest 8%tax(because I have amazing credit and I pressured them with another loan) for 3 years. Gap coverage 3 year warranty. $510 a month. Came with short shifter, armrest, alloy wheels. Catch: Demo car 2500 miles, but in great condition. Hope that helps :)
skimsk808 Thank you for sharing your experience with us, skimsk808. Demo cars are also good ways to get a "new" car without paying the new car price. Thanks for watching, too!
Hi, Branson Bates. Chris always says he's "average height" which equates to about 5'8" in Chris-speak. At 6'3" you'll probably be a bit cramped in it. We say stop by your local dealer and take a seat in one to be sure. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
+Javier Herrera Hey, Javier Herrara. Heck yeah, this car would make a good choice for a student in college! It's a Scion/Toyota so it should be reliable and inexpensive to maintain, the rear seats are small so you can't fit a bunch of your friends in back, and it has a small 4-cylinder engine to help keep insurance costs low. LOL Of course, a Honda Civic makes a good car, too, especially if you already own one. We say wait till you get out of school, then buy a nice new shiny FR-S (or whatever else floats your boat by that time) once you get your first "real" job! But as car guys, we have a hard time arguing the purchase of a car, no matter when it occurs. Thanks for your comments and for watching, too!
+AutoAcademics thank you for replying AutoAcademics and great video by the way and I trust your advice to wait until I get a real job it's just the temptation to get one kills me lol I probably will wait though.
+Parker Steel We apologize for any annoyance that may have caused you, Parker Steel. We are car people first and video producers, well..... let's just say it has been a work in progress, so the production is something that we tweak with every video we produce. With that being said, we appreciate your comment and the accolades. Thanks for watching!
The car might be a tad snug, but you'd fit. There just wouldn't be much room for anyone behind you. We say find one to sit in to be sure. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Not a weird question, triggerhappy 830. We actually get asked that quite a bit. While Chris likes to say he's of "average height," we figure he's around 5'8 or 5'9. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
I've been in one, I'm 6 ft tall. There's plenty of room but just as important, you can sit low down in the car. Like mid engine low. The seating position is proper.
Hi, itssDope-. No, this FR-S has only half the cylinders of a V8. Here's where we state the engine specs: 3:25. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
+devin cas We aren't sure what ticking you are referring to, devin cas. If you can include a time code from our video, we may be able to shed a little light on it. Thanks for watching!
devin cas Hmm. Didn't notice anything out of order there. Everything sounds normal to us, but maybe someone else on this comment thread could offer some more insight. Either way, we appreciate your comments and thanks again for watching!
+AutoAcademics Devin is referring to the "Crickets" or "Chirping" noise that many FRS/BRZ had experienced. If you look up FRS crickets or chirping you can find plenty of videos on it. Your car sounds much quieter than many other videos I have seen that had the cars "chirping." The best explanation I could find on a forum was "This is what I was told; there is a high pressured direct fuel modulator. I forgot the exact name of the part, but this part helps improve fuel consumption. He told me that this part makes chirping sounce when the fuel flowing through is low and the engine is warm, hence, there comes the chirping sound when the car is idle. He said it has something to do with high pressure that it operates in. So I put his reasoning to test. When the sound was so loud, I gave it a little gas just as you do when you rev match. And then the sound went away completely and then it came back when the rev dropped. I really hope Subaru does something about it very soon."
Shawn Flores Hang in there with us, Shawn Flores. We can almost guarantee that the next video will be an improvement. LOL While, ultimately,we're car guys first, we're working hard at providing informative (and entertaining?) videos. We appreciate the constructive criticism and thank you for watching.
why the fuck would you buy a car that you need to push it more to get the same functionality, i dont wanna have to push my car 50%+ every single day, pushin it just to get by someone or just up to speed.... Also, the 70 mph at 3k rpm is lame af, i dont wanna be pushin my car that much just to drive it, really wears down on the engine and wont last as long... i wanna get this car but the engine is upsetting me
+OfficialVanDyce For typical daily use, you do not have to "push" this car that hard to get it to perform rudimentary tasks like accelerating to highway speeds or passing other cars, as this is not your run-of-the-mill economy car. 200-hp is more than what your standard compact car provides and is even more than many midsize 4-cylinder cars have to offer - all cars that are very prevalent on the roads. We think that you may have misunderstood our comment where we said that you can use "80% of the power, 90% of the time." That is strictly for acting like a hooligan and having fun with the car. In a typical driving scenario, you would not need all of that. We would be very disappointed if you came away with the wrong message from this video. The Scion FR-S is truly an enjoyable car to drive and if you are seriously in the market for an affordable lightweight sports car, this is one you should consider. Or the new MX-5 if convertibles are your thing. The best part about the automotive industry today, though, is if more power is important to you, there are other options available. Hopefully that clears things up a bit for you. Thanks for watching!
***** Thanks for the response :D I've really been wanting this car for a while now, and i am getting a new car soon so i was looking at this and it does seem like a great car! What is the maintenance like for them? because i want it to be able to last a while too
+OfficialVanDyce The nice part about this car is that there is nothing exotic under the hood, so maintenance should be fairly straightforward. We are not sure if synthetic oil is used, so worst case scenario would be oil changes every 3,500 miles if conventional oil is used. Probably the only premature wear and tear might be the tires, depending upon how aggressively you drive. The factory Michelins are nice, but might be a little soft, leaning more toward performance than long lifespan. However, you can replace them with something comparable, performance-wise, with a little better tread-life, so that they'll last a little longer. We also suggest that you check out some of the FR-S forums, too. The people on there are very knowledgeable and can offer first hand experience to you. Hope this helps!
OfficialVanDyce We can only assume that those with negative viewpoints have not had the opportunity to drive one of these. Yes, we will be the first to admit that we'd love some more power under the hood, but the car is a lot of fun the way it currently is. Plus, we tend to say that about every car we drive, with the exceptions of the SRT Viper GTS ruclips.net/video/qwcbeT9VNy0/видео.html and the Mercedes ML63 AMG ruclips.net/video/vm9b-ymOG_g/видео.html. Those have plenty of power! LOL
@AutoAcademics. Scion frs is not a true sports man. Scion frs is not in the same class or better than wrx, s2000, 350z/370z, new mustang gt. At the end of the day scion frs is a little sports car. In the future I hope scion will add a turbo to the frs since its underpower.
Stafford Lewis, first we want to thank you for your comments and watching. While we agree that the cars you mentioned are wonderful, lots of fun to drive (and own), and are in a different class from the FR-S, out of the ones that are currently on sale today, the FR-S/BRZ and Miata are still the best examples of true affordable sports cars, which was the focus of this video. As we mentioned in the video, light weight with good handling (and 2 doors?) are key components to a sports car, not necessarily high horsepower (though we also agree that the Scion/Subie twins could benefit greatly from a turbo), and the fact that the FR-S can be purchased brand new for around $25k (base) is what makes it affordable. Not to mention, at approximately 2,800 lbs., its curb weight is significantly less than all those mentioned with the exception of the S2000 whose weight was very comparable, yet sadly is no longer available new. Please do not misunderstand us. We never said that the FR-S was better than the other cars mentioned and we greatly appreciate the WRX, S2000, and Z-cars. And to enlighten even further, Chris from the video has actually owned 2 Mustangs so far (please do not get him started), yet none of those cars that are currently sold today match the traditional definition of a true lightweight and affordable sports car, except again for the Miata. And if we take affordability out of it, well now we're talking Porsche Caymans, which would be a totally different topic. LOL Thanks again for watching!
+AutoAcademics. Thanks for responding. Scion frs is an affordable car, but it is not a true sports car. As I was saying earlier frs is underpower and cant compete with wrx,350z/370z, s2000, and new mustang gt. Frs is a little sports car. Frs is for people who can't afford a true sports and people who getting their first sports car. If scion frs gets a turbo it will be a good true sports car.
***** Adding a turbo to FRS will costs 30K+, the market Toyota wants to hit is those who are only willing to spend around 20k. Anyways, you can always spend 5k to power it up to 300hp+. I honestly just need 300 HP.
+Berkeclor92. I know that. I was just saying that scion frs could be a true sports car if they add a turbo. If I was Toyota I would made a base frs for 25k and frs s with a turbo for over 30k. Right now the new wrx is pushing the scion frs out the game. It will cost over 10 grand to turbo the frs. 6000 grand for the turbo, 1500 to 2000 to install and 5 to 10 grand to rebuild the engine. You got to rebuild the motor so you won't messed up the internals when you upgrade from n/a to turbo.
+chris lawrence Any one in RUclips land care to comment? If not, chris Lawrence, we suggest that you read some of the previous comments. There are definitely a few opinions, from both sides of the coin, in regards to your thoughts. Thanks for watching!
I'm obsessed with this car.. I want one so badly! Thanks for your review!!
You're welcome, Gangularis. We're happy you enjoyed it. Keep working toward the car. Good thing is every year the prices of the used ones come down a little more. Thanks for watching!
Great review, I just ordered one! 🙂👍
@@gunnitreck Do you still have one?
@@scionnn Yeah, I ve a 2019 Toyota GT 86 in dark blue. Love it🙂
Cant wait to go back home state side from this deployment and pick me up one of these.
here i am 6 years later and this is still the best review for the FRS ive ever seen
Ha! And we're still here replying to comments, too, Nicholas Patino. Thank you very much for your kind words and we hope you check out some of our more recent reviews. Believe it or not, we think we've gotten a little better at them. :P Thanks for watching!
This car was made for me! I test drove a blue one and fell madly in love with it..... *sigh*
That-being-said, it could use some more torque, and...an armrest, but these matters are easily remedied!
+revolutionday1 We agree, revolutionday1. We agree. Thanks for watching!
Like your review. Simple, purpose, good camera shots, very cool. Keep on good work !
Thank you for the kind words, Dominic Rouleau! We truly appreciate it. Stay tuned, because we have some really cool stuff in the pipeline. Thanks for watching!
I hate to be the person to point out a mistake on a video that I really liked, but you mentioned at 3:30 "Toyota's 2.0L boxer engine that was co-developed with Subaru". From everything I've seen on the power train it's Subaru's engine entirely straight out of the forester, but with TRD (Toyota) port injectors, the combination = great. I can see how easy of a mistake it is the block says Toyota and Subaru but the badge on the car says Scion. again just trying to inform what I've heard not just pointing out a mistake, But great video!
+The stiG J-96 actually, that engine is called the fb20, the subi/toyota engine is called the fa20
Outstanding product by Toyota!. An affordable quality and fun to drive sports car with a beautiful design. I'm purchasing a 2015 model soon. Thank you for sharing this video!.
Good, professionally done review. Nice work man.
+motormusique Thank you, motormusique! We appreciate it. And thanks for watching, too!
finally a video that shows a carseat!
well it fits, so my kid's gonna have to fit :D
in all seriousness, I'd just move the copilot seat forward a bit.
+Gianflavio FX Ha! That's the spirit! Chris (our presenter) has shoehorned his family in many a small vehicle during testing. We're glad our video helped (kinda). Though we do send our condolences to your kid and anyone else who has to ride shotgun up front with the kid behind them. Thanks for watching!
I hate how people call the frs/brz/gt86 not a true sports car, just because it lacks power. And then compare it to cars such as the s2000/ Nissan z series/and so on. What defines what a sports car is? Better yet define the word sport- an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment. Now let's define car - a road vehicle, typically with four wheels, powered by an internal combustion engine and able to carry a small number of people. Now let's define sports car - a low-built car designed for performance at high speeds.
Now where in that definition does it say the sports car has to be high horsepower? It doesn't what it defines is a car that performs well at high speeds, which and frs/brz/gt86 is capable of. Regardless of how much "power it has in stock version.
Your blurred idea of what a sports car is, is like saying golf isn't a a sport because it doesn't require the same extreme physical effort like perhaps hockey/football, tennis does. Which we all know golf is a sport, a sport that is also played on a professional level as well as a fun level, just as hockey/football/tennis is.
I rest my case.
Brad Bird A true sports car got to have some power, handling and compete with other cars. Frs handling is good but it underpower and cant compete!!! I used 350z/370z and Honda s2000 for my examples because they have some horsepower and very good handling and compete with other cars.
Definition of a sports car defines, a car as a low-built car designed for performance at high speeds. Explain to me where in that definition that it defines a sports car as needing a certain amount of power or higher to be a sports car. Oh right it doesn't, to be a sports car it just has to be designed to perform better at higher speeds. And hence forth of videos of the frs as sure as hell performs well at high speeds around corners. Of you want to argue the fact make sure you are able to back of your shit with definitions to define what certain things mean.
Thanks for the great review. I have a 2014 frs, automatic transmission and I LOVE it. My previous car was a 2010 Miata. That car seemed sort of cheap and 'tinny' with a shitty sound system compared to my frs.
cultfan 52 do you still have it?
i’m saving up for one 😭❤️ i want one so bad
Hang in there, uralsmol. Keep working toward it and you'll get one. Thanks for watching!
I did owned one of those back when they hit the market in 2013, boy did i loved that car! Now 4 years later i regret getting rid of it😢 but had no choice! Since it snows here in Chicago, is not suitable to drive in the ice and snow. Coundnt afford a second car, so had to trade it for a jeep wrangler. I do like the jeep! But i had way more enjoyable driving in the frs, i keep saying myself someday i'll get a good used one again. It was a fun little sports car😎👍
I don't know how I missed the FR-S was a 2+2, until your video. I had totally written it off because I thought it was a two-seater. I love to take the kids to car shows and rallies, so I can add it to the list of cars to test drive during my week off. :) Also, great review, well revealed.
+Rolling Tin Fist Thank you for the kind words, Rolling Tin Fist. We truly appreciate it and we're glad we could help. Thanks for watching!
Haha! Thanks.
now this is a car i would love to put payments in, but since im about to have a child i think i will just keep my 06 dodge durango with 118K miles (paid off) and 2004 4x4 Ford explorer (paid off), i work on my own cars, meaning i can keep a car longer :P
+ekim andersom xD SMH
sounds like you jealous :D
Excellent review, and thanks for showing the car seat in the back. I got a 2 year old son and another one on the way. I think this is still an option, cause I want a rear wheel drive sports coupe.
+Jeremiah P First and foremost, thank you for the kind words, Jeremiah P. We truly appreciate it. Now, on the other subject, we feel you with the rear drive sports coupe. Unfortunately, we wouldn't be totally honest if we didn't say that might be a stretch to get two kids in cars seats in that car with people in front. Especially if one of those child seats is rear facing. We all know the smallest child takes up the most space in a car. LOL But at any rate, stop by your local Scion dealer (well, soon to be just Toyota dealer) and check it out to see if your car seats (and legs) fit. It really was a fun car! Comment back on here if you get it or even if you check out the car in person with the car seats. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you for your comments and thanks for watching, too!
not an "inline 4" .. It is a horizontally opposed 4 cyl boxer motor.
It makes 200 hp, so put a Turbo in it! I am.
+Eff Taroza We agree, Eff Taroza. Especially once the new car warranty expires. There are some nice aftermarket kits available from notable manufacturers. Thanks for watching!
I bought a 2018 and I love it, plenty of power.
Congrats on the new car, Anonymous User. Thanks for watching!
Great review man! Watching it in 2015.
Recklessly Arrogant Thank you, Recklessly Arrogant. We appreciate your support. And thanks for watching, too!
18 years old just got a 15 FRS 😏
How is it
@@spocktv8227 best decision ever, gonna keep it for a long time
@@ishxnnn what year is it? im thinking of buying one near me but its 2014
man i'm 16 almost have enough to buy this car and now you just made me want to get another job XD
Ha! Aspirations are good, Acorn_Tree. And so was this FR-S. Thanks for watching!
one hting i really like about the frs is how big the engine bay is so if you wanted to you could throw in a ls3 or something like that
When the 2016 mx-5 miata comes out the frs will have a competitor in its category. Would love a comparison when it comes out.
Giving us a thumbs up or, better yet, subscribing, will help us to get more cars like that, R Garcia. We appreciate your support. Thanks for watching!
This is a very good video. I might agree with the content but very well produced
Michael O'Brien Thank you, Michael O'Brian. And thanks for watching, too!
Also i love your videos dude :D keep it the great work
contane 21 Thanks, contane 21. We appreciate the kind words. And thanks for watching, too!
I've become really interested recently in this car.. but with the used car market going up I'm seeing 2013's for 12 to 15,000 and more! I may buy one in the future but I'm also concerned about specific years and I know that there was a recall for 2013. Any thoughts on that? I've also heard the newer ones have better visibility. Oh, and why would this engine need premium?
Only early production 2013 ones
Hey I have a question
Good video drop the music very distracting
great video
Chris!!! Went back a few years for this one...how tall are you? I'm guessing good room for the driver?
Wow! Yeah, this one is an oldie.😂 I'm 5'8 so pretty much all cars fit me decently. If they don't, it's truly a problem. Thanks for checking out the backlog, The_Notorious_9!
I love RWD. i accidently drifted my lexus is250 once and it fit good. xD
@ Statford Lewis you just want to argue all day long, to get your point across and be right. The way I see it is everyone else disagrees with you. And so does the guy who made the video. Fact is, the frs can out perform a shit load of cars even your said examples. It is a "true"low powered sports car. Built to be modified to one's desired taste. At the end of the day I would rather spend 25000 on a car that I plan on modifying then spend 40000+ on a car to do the same thing. At the end of the day. I can get the same amount of power and looks for less. It doesn't matter how much power a car currently has most spend their time ripping it apart and rebuilding with new parts to create a faster car. Stock doesn't mean anything these days it's what the car can become.
Brad Bird As I was saying in my pervious comments a turbo frs will be a true sports if it has a turbo. A stock frs needs a turbo since it is underpower. I already made my point across that's why everyone haven't respond back to me in weeks!!! Everyone don't want to admit that the frs is a little sports car with good handling and underpower.
My point made all you wanna do is argue but fact is its like 10 to 1. Regardless of whether it needs or doesn't need a turbo fact is you can go out by a turbo and put it on. Problem solved. No one said it that more power isn't needed. More power is always more awesome but straight from stock, it's alot better for power gain to go buy a turbo rather then have a small pathetic one pre installed by the manufacturer.
Brad Bird If you read my previous comments my points made everyone look bad that's why they respond back. Frs needs a turbo so it can compete with other cars since it is underpower. It only needs a least 300hp. There are some turbo options for FRS at 5k and a couple at 6k. When you are going to upgrade turbo from n/a you got rebuild the motor so you wont blow your engine!!! People already upgrade turbo from n/a without rebuilding the motor and the motor didn't last that long, Google this "rebuilding motor to upgrade turbo scion FRS" and click FRS300 Rebuild Has Begun..Blown Motor to Built Monster - .
Incorrect, you do not need to rebuild the motor. As most new turbos, especially bolt on systems have already been tuned,to optimize the engine without causing issues. What you need to do, is re-map the ecu, in order, for the engine to register the added power, and optimize the other areas like air flow and shit.... clearly, if they blew the engine, then they didn't remap the ecu. Causing air flow issues, which is why they needed to rebuild to replace parts that got fried.
Oh and your so called Google look up is a forum, which does not specify what happened to cause the motor issue. And FYI he was also using a full blown turbo, which was untuned which is half the reason it failed. When you get some education on cars rather then sending people to look at useless shit. Then come back with your opinion and input. Clearly you don't know shit about cars.
Dope vid. Cant wait. Get mine in 12 days. 👍
Thank you, Michael Rodriguez. Feel free to comment back on here when you get it. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for watching!
Is it a good car to daily especially if I live in Canada where there’s a lot of snow in winter?
As long as you have the right tires on it, this car should be fine, Adam Faiq. Now, if you live in an area where the roads aren't treated for snow or where they don't get plowed very often, I would suggest something with AWD or 4WD. But if the roads are maintained and you get some good winter or snow tires, this FR-S should work fine. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Its a nice car AT FIRST, but from what I have learned about it from other owners is that after a few months of owning it, they become REALLY TIRED OF THE HIGH NOISE LEVELS inside the car. Go on a long road trip and the loudness of the interior gets really tiring for them, so most of those owners end up selling the car to someone else.
My solution to that = remove the pipe from the engine that pipes in engine noise into the cabin, that should fix that.
+Honesty Counts We appreciate your comment, Honesty Counts, and so we figured we'd add a little insight to it.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), noise is a common trait of many sports/performance cars, both inside and outside of the cars -- especially those that are more performance-based, no matter the price. A primary reason is because sound deadening material = weight, which is always a "no-no" for performance. Luckily, there is a category known as GT (Grand Touring) where you can have your cake and eat it, too. These cars typically provide a mix of powerful engines and luxury appointments (hence, the quieter interiors) that allow for a more pleasant long distance drive. The Scion FR-S is not purposed for that. Neither is a Camaro ZL1 or a Ferrari 458. (Yes, extreme examples, but cars that follow the same principle and are VERY loud inside.) There are other choices available for those who want something more civilized for every day driving, but if a true sports car (that doesn't cost an arm and a leg) is what someone is looking for, the Scion FR-S is currently one of the best examples available in the $25k price range. Thanks for watching!
One dayyyyyy
Keep working towards it, Azurr. 👍🏾 Thanks for watching!
What’s the price for it?
i wanna know how much the down payment is plus how much the payment is for every month. can anybody answer that?
***** Hi Saw Snipy. Down payments to purchase an automobile vary from vehicle to vehicle, as well as a from a person's credit to another person's credit. Not to mention, how much a person can afford to put down. Obviously, the more you pay as a down payment, the less you will have to finance, making your payments lower. A typical amount to use as a down payment is around 10% of the vehicle cost. So if the car is $20k, a down payment of $2k might be paid up front. Keep in mind that many people pay more than that, if they are able, to keep their payments lower.
To calculate your estimated monthly payment, many manufacturer websites have payment calculators that allow you to input your interest rate, down payment, vehicle cost, and even trade-in value (if applicable). You also include the length of the loan or lease and the calculator takes care of the rest. Here is a link to Scion's payment calculator: www.scion.com/buy/payment_calculator/
We suggest that you give the calculator a try, inputting different amounts for a down payment so that you have an idea of how much money to will need to purchase the vehicle. Keep in mind that you will also have to pay for insurance, as well. And if you find that the car might still be a little too expensive, start saving what you think your monthly payment will be before you purchase, then use that money as a down payment or add it to the down payment you already have. And if that doesn't seem to work for you, consider certified preowned. That'll save you some cash, too!
Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
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I bought $1000 down. 1% interest 8%tax(because I have amazing credit and I pressured them with another loan) for 3 years. Gap coverage 3 year warranty. $510 a month. Came with short shifter, armrest, alloy wheels. Catch: Demo car 2500 miles, but in great condition. Hope that helps :)
skimsk808 Thank you for sharing your experience with us, skimsk808. Demo cars are also good ways to get a "new" car without paying the new car price. Thanks for watching, too!
I’m 6’1 will I fit comfortably in here?
It's hard to say, Nicholas Franco. Best way to tell is to actually sit in one. Sorry we couldn't help more. Thanks for watching!
How tall are you? I'm 6 3 I'm worried about feeling cramped
Hi, Branson Bates. Chris always says he's "average height" which equates to about 5'8" in Chris-speak. At 6'3" you'll probably be a bit cramped in it. We say stop by your local dealer and take a seat in one to be sure. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
would this car be a good choice for a student in college? or should I just stick to my honda civic lol
+Javier Herrera Hey, Javier Herrara. Heck yeah, this car would make a good choice for a student in college! It's a Scion/Toyota so it should be reliable and inexpensive to maintain, the rear seats are small so you can't fit a bunch of your friends in back, and it has a small 4-cylinder engine to help keep insurance costs low. LOL
Of course, a Honda Civic makes a good car, too, especially if you already own one. We say wait till you get out of school, then buy a nice new shiny FR-S (or whatever else floats your boat by that time) once you get your first "real" job! But as car guys, we have a hard time arguing the purchase of a car, no matter when it occurs. Thanks for your comments and for watching, too!
+AutoAcademics thank you for replying AutoAcademics and great video by the way and I trust your advice to wait until I get a real job it's just the temptation to get one kills me lol I probably will wait though.
Javier Herrera Sometimes the smartest choices are the toughest ones. Keep studying (and watching our channel)! :)
How is it
nice review, but the music is very intrusive
+Parker Steel We apologize for any annoyance that may have caused you, Parker Steel. We are car people first and video producers, well..... let's just say it has been a work in progress, so the production is something that we tweak with every video we produce. With that being said, we appreciate your comment and the accolades. Thanks for watching!
I’m 6”1 almost 6”2 will I fit ??
The car might be a tad snug, but you'd fit. There just wouldn't be much room for anyone behind you. We say find one to sit in to be sure. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
This might be a weird question but how tall or you ?
Not a weird question, triggerhappy 830. We actually get asked that quite a bit. While Chris likes to say he's of "average height," we figure he's around 5'8 or 5'9. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
AutoAcademics thanks for the reply and it does help
I've been in one, I'm 6 ft tall. There's plenty of room but just as important, you can sit low down in the car. Like mid engine low. The seating position is proper.
Is this a V8?
Hi, itssDope-. No, this FR-S has only half the cylinders of a V8. Here's where we state the engine specs: 3:25. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
He said inline 4 cylinder. Wtf
I hate that it ticks the most annoying thing
+devin cas We aren't sure what ticking you are referring to, devin cas. If you can include a time code from our video, we may be able to shed a little light on it. Thanks for watching!
+AutoAcademics 3:56 when u popped the hood
3;48 I mean an I could hear it
devin cas Hmm. Didn't notice anything out of order there. Everything sounds normal to us, but maybe someone else on this comment thread could offer some more insight. Either way, we appreciate your comments and thanks again for watching!
+AutoAcademics Devin is referring to the "Crickets" or "Chirping" noise that many FRS/BRZ had experienced. If you look up FRS crickets or chirping you can find plenty of videos on it. Your car sounds much quieter than many other videos I have seen that had the cars "chirping." The best explanation I could find on a forum was "This is what I was told; there is a high pressured direct fuel modulator. I forgot the exact name of the part, but this part helps improve fuel consumption. He told me that this part makes chirping sounce when the fuel flowing through is low and the engine is warm, hence, there comes the chirping sound when the car is idle. He said it has something to do with high pressure that it operates in. So I put his reasoning to test. When the sound was so loud, I gave it a little gas just as you do when you rev match. And then the sound went away completely and then it came back when the rev dropped. I really hope Subaru does something about it very soon."
"Purpose built" and "you know"...too many "ah" and "um".
Shawn Flores Hang in there with us, Shawn Flores. We can almost guarantee that the next video will be an improvement. LOL While, ultimately,we're car guys first, we're working hard at providing informative (and entertaining?) videos. We appreciate the constructive criticism and thank you for watching.
Awesome. Gotta start somewhere right? Keep up the good work :)
Shawn Flores Thanks for supporting us. We appreciate you!
why the fuck would you buy a car that you need to push it more to get the same functionality, i dont wanna have to push my car 50%+ every single day, pushin it just to get by someone or just up to speed.... Also, the 70 mph at 3k rpm is lame af, i dont wanna be pushin my car that much just to drive it, really wears down on the engine and wont last as long... i wanna get this car but the engine is upsetting me
+OfficialVanDyce For typical daily use, you do not have to "push" this car that hard to get it to perform rudimentary tasks like accelerating to highway speeds or passing other cars, as this is not your run-of-the-mill economy car. 200-hp is more than what your standard compact car provides and is even more than many midsize 4-cylinder cars have to offer - all cars that are very prevalent on the roads. We think that you may have misunderstood our comment where we said that you can use "80% of the power, 90% of the time." That is strictly for acting like a hooligan and having fun with the car. In a typical driving scenario, you would not need all of that. We would be very disappointed if you came away with the wrong message from this video. The Scion FR-S is truly an enjoyable car to drive and if you are seriously in the market for an affordable lightweight sports car, this is one you should consider. Or the new MX-5 if convertibles are your thing. The best part about the automotive industry today, though, is if more power is important to you, there are other options available. Hopefully that clears things up a bit for you. Thanks for watching!
***** Thanks for the response :D I've really been wanting this car for a while now, and i am getting a new car soon so i was looking at this and it does seem like a great car! What is the maintenance like for them? because i want it to be able to last a while too
+OfficialVanDyce The nice part about this car is that there is nothing exotic under the hood, so maintenance should be fairly straightforward. We are not sure if synthetic oil is used, so worst case scenario would be oil changes every 3,500 miles if conventional oil is used. Probably the only premature wear and tear might be the tires, depending upon how aggressively you drive. The factory Michelins are nice, but might be a little soft, leaning more toward performance than long lifespan. However, you can replace them with something comparable, performance-wise, with a little better tread-life, so that they'll last a little longer. We also suggest that you check out some of the FR-S forums, too. The people on there are very knowledgeable and can offer first hand experience to you. Hope this helps!
***** Thanks! I dont understand why there are so many people getting mad at scion for the car only having 151 pounds of torque.
OfficialVanDyce We can only assume that those with negative viewpoints have not had the opportunity to drive one of these. Yes, we will be the first to admit that we'd love some more power under the hood, but the car is a lot of fun the way it currently is. Plus, we tend to say that about every car we drive, with the exceptions of the SRT Viper GTS ruclips.net/video/qwcbeT9VNy0/видео.html and the Mercedes ML63 AMG ruclips.net/video/vm9b-ymOG_g/видео.html. Those have plenty of power! LOL
Shout out to downtown Woodstock 😂
Ha! Yup! That was quite a while ago, Joseph Thomssen. Thanks for watching!
@AutoAcademics. Scion frs is not a true sports man. Scion frs is not in the same class or better than wrx, s2000, 350z/370z, new mustang gt. At the end of the day scion frs is a little sports car. In the future I hope scion will add a turbo to the frs since its underpower.
Stafford Lewis, first we want to thank you for your comments and watching. While we agree that the cars you mentioned are wonderful, lots of fun to drive (and own), and are in a different class from the FR-S, out of the ones that are currently on sale today, the FR-S/BRZ and Miata are still the best examples of true affordable sports cars, which was the focus of this video. As we mentioned in the video, light weight with good handling (and 2 doors?) are key components to a sports car, not necessarily high horsepower (though we also agree that the Scion/Subie twins could benefit greatly from a turbo), and the fact that the FR-S can be purchased brand new for around $25k (base) is what makes it affordable. Not to mention, at approximately 2,800 lbs., its curb weight is significantly less than all those mentioned with the exception of the S2000 whose weight was very comparable, yet sadly is no longer available new.
Please do not misunderstand us. We never said that the FR-S was better than the other cars mentioned and we greatly appreciate the WRX, S2000, and Z-cars. And to enlighten even further, Chris from the video has actually owned 2 Mustangs so far (please do not get him started), yet none of those cars that are currently sold today match the traditional definition of a true lightweight and affordable sports car, except again for the Miata. And if we take affordability out of it, well now we're talking Porsche Caymans, which would be a totally different topic. LOL
Thanks again for watching!
+AutoAcademics. Thanks for responding. Scion frs is an affordable car, but it is not a true sports car. As I was saying earlier frs is underpower and cant compete with wrx,350z/370z, s2000, and new mustang gt. Frs is a little sports car. Frs is for people who can't afford a true sports and people who getting their first sports car. If scion frs gets a turbo it will be a good true sports car.
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Adding a turbo to FRS will costs 30K+, the market Toyota wants to hit is those who are only willing to spend around 20k. Anyways, you can always spend 5k to power it up to 300hp+. I honestly just need 300 HP.
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+Berkeclor92. I know that. I was just saying that scion frs could be a true sports car if they add a turbo. If I was Toyota I would made a base frs for 25k and frs s with a turbo for over 30k. Right now the new wrx is pushing the scion frs out the game. It will cost over 10 grand to turbo the frs. 6000 grand for the turbo, 1500 to 2000 to install and 5 to 10 grand to rebuild the engine. You got to rebuild the motor so you won't messed up the internals when you upgrade from n/a to turbo.
video is too long
not really a sporty car if it only has 200hp. I've driven it, and i'm sad to say, it performs well below expectations.
+chris lawrence Any one in RUclips land care to comment? If not, chris Lawrence, we suggest that you read some of the previous comments. There are definitely a few opinions, from both sides of the coin, in regards to your thoughts. Thanks for watching!