I HATE THIS! Why I think Jelly gouache is GROSS.. - HIMI gouache 24 color set
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Hello Art Friends!! This has been a LONG time coming. We've been meaning to make a video about these paints for years. We're late to this hype train but let's see what we think of these slime cup paints??
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Hi, I just want to stop by and say thank you. Years ago, and I mean quite a few! I found this channel. The first art channel I ever subscribed to. I was simply just a young teen and now i’m 20. You guys have completely inspired me over the years and have helped me so much ! I haven’t been very active regarding my art lately, but maybe that will change. I still just want to say thank you.
Aww Audi this is so sweet! We're just super happy that we have been able to inspire you - you can do anything!! :D
i actually love using these paints! since they're pretty cheap i don't feel bad using them up for silly sketches. i've had mine for quite a while and they do dry up but if you add water and let them soak it in you can mix them up again and they are like new!
i do prefer my fancier more expensive brands but these are very fun for just playing around. (i did also rearrange the colors when i got them in because the set up was wack haha)
That does sound like a good idea to use them for silly sketches! I often get intimidated using expensive art supplies for just small sketches
So they do dry up? I was wondering how they would be to carry around as wet as they are. They do look fun for Art Journaling .
So, you wouldn't recommend these if you can't get them cheap?
Oh same, its definitivly not the best paint iv used but there is alot of it so im not scared of using it, it usually gets used in my scetchbook! the most anoying thing is that it dries out if you dont seal it properly but as you said you can reactivate it.
@@Pop_Trauma Yes they do dry out after a while. Mine only mostly dried on the top, after like 3-5 months? You can spray them with a bit of water after each use and use some cling wrap to help keep the paints went. Alternatively you can let them dry out and then sprit some water on them where you want to use them. It’s easier to travel with this paints when they are dry. Then just spray them with water before use. If you tilt the paints, depending on the consistency it can drip to the lid. I haven’t had any leakage to the outside tho, the container is very nice.
I have watched many reviews of these paints, this is the first time I've seen them compared to dipping sauce LMAO the aesthetic shot of one of the paints with the text saying not to eat it was just *chef's kiss*
HAHA thank you so much Ada!!
Quick tip make sure to store flat once the lids are off the gouache, mine accidentally fell the other day and ended up tilted and all the paints ran into each other it was such a horrible mess I was very sad. Just thought I'd share so hopefully I can prevent it happening to someone else. :(
It's so weird they don't have little reusable plastic lids you can snap back onto the pans. Seems like really poor design on their part.
So, I bought the next size down of this set for myself a few weeks back. A few things I’ve figured out since using them:
1. When they dry out, adding water, scraping the sides, and using a handheld mini paint mixer or palette knife brings them back to life pretty quick. I use a spritzer bottle when they start to dry when painting outside.
2. I found using a palette knife to put the colors on the palette keeps the cups of paint really clean. (Since it’s easier to clean the palette knife than brushes)
3. It’s a bit heavy, but I liked this set because it’s so easy to bust out to go painting outside. It’s just one less thing to prep and set up and one less excuse for me to avoid going out to paint. I haven’t had issues with the paint spilling out- but I keep mine a bit jelly consistency rather than liquid-y.
4. I agree these are definitely student grade, but the price is good and if you’re just trying to get in more practice in, I always feel less pressure and guilt if I should mess up or that days painting doesn’t go well (as opposed to using hoelbein or Winsor & Newton which i reserve for projects I want to sell or can take my time working on indoors)
5. When I finish using the paints, hey- free container! Just fill in with paints from another brand! (The refills are not really available)
If anyone's looking for a travel gouache kit, I highly recommend CaranD'ache's pan gouache kit if you can get them for a good price. I managed to get mine for 50% off and, as someone who has to travel a lot, it being in pans make it extremely useful to paint on the go!
Is it chalky? And I kinda use a lot of paint how does it hold up with extended use?
aaa we've made a video on the c'aran dache gouache pans before, I really liked them too! ^__^ ruclips.net/video/JqcvvVm5kbI/видео.html
@@11c65 they're not chalky and they last forever.
@@11c65 sorry I’m a year late but I just got the caran d’ache red travel palette and it’s definitely not chalky at all. So creamy with the right amount of water, isn’t streaky, and colors mix beautify. Only cons are: white isn’t as opaque but it’s a good mixing white like zinc white, the palette is huge (can be good since pans are large), and I didn’t like the magenta color would have preferred a quin rose color instead
a new episode of Grieving with Gouache. Best review I have seen on these paints... I think the main selling point of these are that they are just so cute! I would recommend the Winsor and Newton designer gouache since they are the only gauche I have used and they still work even after years of neglect lol I could get so much out of just a set of primary colours.
I’m really exited for this review bc i haven’t found a, well super honest review of the things I am looking for, so thank you doodle date!
Yeah I'd say don't get them, you can mix colors (not well) They're supposed to be layered thickly, from cup to paper. They'll crack if applied too thickly and they smell rancid, also watering them down does not work either. They are a pain to store.
I have these, and I absolutely love them. I’ve had them for at least a year, and they work really well still! I do recommend them. They’re cheaper, water down fine, layer fine, and are real fun to use. They do dry with age but some water will make them just fine. Only problem I’ve ever had is just warping of the removable palette which may have been my own mistake??
You are meant to add a little bit of water to water it down like you would with tube gouache. Another tip is to add a bit of white to every colour because it makes it less streaky. I was very skeptical at first but it's a decent set for your money.
I bought my cousin the 12 paint set a couple years ago and she really liked it!
If you let them dry they still work, they're just less pigmented :) if you keep them in the fridge they stay gooey for longer!
this video is soon to be a year old. are you guys going to make a follow-up with the paints dried up like you wanted? would be exciting!
I pressed the notification immediately when i saw it!!! This makes me so hyped!!! Missed you doodle date 😍💕
I first read the notification as "Taste Test Himi Gouache" 😭
Hope you enjoyed it!
I’m glad you guys reviewed this. I bought the smaller set a few years ago and barely used it. It dried up. But I did like it so I bought the larger set and I have been using it a lot more, and I try to remember to spritz the gouache every few weeks to keep them hydrated. It’s been about a year and the paints are still nice and goopy. I often decide not to paint because of the prep and cleanup, and this set basically removes any prep. Sure it’s not the best quality, but it’s perfect for what I use it for. I put the paints in the order I wanted before I took the lids off.
Even if they dry, use water and mix and they’re like new!! 💗
if you put water on the dry ones and let it sit for a while and later mix, they will be back as new again
@@revelhilary Thank you for the advice, but I did really really try to revive the dried up set, but I could not get it to work very well. It just broke up the dry chunks into more chunks. It was honestly just easier to buy a new set.
@@mrsdejunky you kinda have to let them sit in the water overnight and come back and mix them with a pallet knife.
So excited you made a video on these!!!
also i've been off the internet for a bit and i'm so happy to be catching up with your videos! missed you two!
Hello Steph and Adam I am so happy you are back I really missed you guys🤗🤗Thank you for uploading to RUclips again🙂Your vídeos are soothing when I have anxiety. I have all your books 📖
ooo this opening is beautiful!!
Adamo workin his MOVIE MAGIC
Ooohhh, new video up! Hyena happy time is now 😍
thank goood for this video xD
i´ve been having such a bad week with a flare up and this just made me really happy ^^
thank you!
I really like working with the Himi paints. Some advice that I collected from watching lots of gouache videos, and that I have found to make a difference:
1. Work in layers. Start off with a fairly watery layer, then add one or two layers which are a bit thicker (but not pure from the cup). This will make the top layers look smoother, and keep underlying layers from reactivating.
2. Use watercolour paper. For gouache, you can use the back if you want. And it doesn't have to be the expensive brand stuff. But it needs to be watercolour paper. The paint won't slide around so gloopily, and will dry more evenly.
3. Don't use watercolour brushes. They hold too much water. Use cheap brushes that are firm enough to have the control you need, but not so stiff that you reactivate and/or smear underlying layers.
4. Move your brush in one direction in a smooth light stroke. Try not to go back to an area until it's dry unless you want to go for a painterly look. Keep rewetting your brush slightly to offset the paint drying on the pallette.
5. Gouache is famous for having a very long ugly stage. If your painting looks horrible, it may just mean you gave up too soon or went too thick too fast.
6. Acrylic gouache may be different, but with regular gouache most artists add at least a bit of titanium white to their colours to make the paint easier to work with and to increase opacity. I bought a big tube of Windson and Newton and add a bit of it to the Himi paints when mixing my colours. It really helps with both how the paint feels when working and how it looks when it's dry.
The gloopiness of this paint reminds me of tempura paint we used in school during art class (can't forget that smell) or even the paint you get with cheap paint by numbers or paint your own dream catcher sets sold to kids. I wonder if it would work better this way: color the base picture with alcohol markers, use the (watered down) gouache paint to create shadows and textures and then finish off fine details like you two did with colored pencils. You both did such a great job with such a challenging medium. And as always, than you for such a wonderful video.
Kids' tempera is basically a cheaper variant of gouache (some call it poster paint). Artist grade tempera is made with egg yolk, but the kids tempera / poster paint uses the same binders as industrial gouache. So yes, they're basically the same thing, the main difference is quality.
Uggg we used tempra paint all the time in school and it was the worst! 😫 so hard to get a nice flat layer of color. For years I refused to paint because I though all paint would work like tempra lol
@@Jessica-ch1yi same school paint triggers me
I really wanna try this marker thing
i’ve been waiting for this one ☝️
We really hope you enjoy it Jillian!!
Fun stuff. I advise you mix and stir them up. They are also meant to be watered down to various levels for different techniques. Spray isopropyl to avoid Mold. They 100 percent reset even if completely dried! They are my favourite paints now. Most colours are also surprisingly lightfast (based on my tests.) nude, violet, pale violet are not lightfast, and rose shifts a bit. Prussian seems to fade but if you rest it in darkness it ‘recharges’ so yes Prussian blue is lightfast. Do be careful of mould however I had some issues.I advise getting half pans pre mixing a lot of colours quickly and letting them dry. I’m looking into also getting lavender essential oil to add to it to avoid Mold in the future. Mixing in isopropyl alcohol will rid it of Mold. Anyways it’s safer to let it dry and re-wet. Also rearrange the colour order and put sticker labels on the sides to label the colours. The order is crazy rearrange the order!
That's crazy to me. Having to do stuff to avoid mold? Isn't the tubes more convenient at that point?
I'm so happy you are posting videos again!
So excited ive been on a gouache kick for a bit again so this will be excited to watch while painting as well!!
Awesome! we're so happy you guys paint along with us!! 💕
I just got himi gouaches not too long ago! :0 Oooh this is going to be a good video
Thank you for this honest review !
Steph: a sticky dipping sauce.
Meanwhile, Kasey Golden's latest video.....
Hahahahaha.
DOODLE DATE!
YEA BOIII
The swatches give me Children's book vibes and I like it!
That opening intro is so pretty and good. I love it!
Thank you so much!!
You guys have done an amazing job, dont be to hard on yourself Adam 🌼🌼
These look weirdly fun to use.
HI ART FRIENDS!!
OMG I did not watch a Video of you for like 1 1/2 years because I was burnt out and dead inside and didn't make art since then, but aaahhhhh it's so good to hear your cute voices again and your personalities, ahhh such cuties
Would love to see a follow up :] love your art and channel!!!
only 5 seconds into the video, and I already have to comment: CUTEST INTRO
I has splints I am supposed to wear. They are for De Qervain Syndrome and I should wear them on both hands. Mine have a splint for the thumbs too. Um I haven't been wearing them though as I just can't draw with them and if I wear them out or at work they get gross when I get hand sanitiser on them. So my thumbs and wrists are currently protesting. I love your Fairy and Frog Frens! I am currently drawing snakes!
I have this set too! I quite like it but the palette situation confuses me too, maintenance is also required.
Every week or so I go around the corners of each pot to pick up the dried up paint en mix it back in with the rest. I also use a fine spray bottle to keep the paints 'moist' before I put them away.
I just use this gouache because I am poor and wanted a good introductory gouache because I wasn't sure I was going to like the medium. I have discovered it is best to spritz them with water before I use them to negate the gloopiness. I do have to add water and stir every few months but I have had them for close to two years now and I still love them. I could definitely see where using a more elite gouache usually might make this a so-so product though.
Got the Arrtx gouache i really like it. I prefer the Arrtx solely for the face that it come with pigment info, but they are exactly the same
Oh wow I first subscribed to you guys when I was around 15-16 and I turned 20 recently. Kinda fell out of my artsy phase ever since I started university bcs I didn't really have spare time. It was nice to be see you guys' video popped out on my timeline again! Brought back all the nostalgia of seeing you guys go on actual doodle dates at cafes haha! What happened to your hand Steph? I noticed the bandage you wore while painting.
That's so weird; I literally got my set yesterday. I saw it was cheap on amazon and decided to go for it.
I bought this set a couple of years ago and rarely used it and it dried out so badly I couldn’t even get it to rehydrate, so I bought another one and have only used it twice. I really need to start using it more but my sketchbooks all hate gouache and watercolor. I completely reorganized mine because I couldn’t deal with the color order it came in. 😂
Maybe spray some water on them sometimes? I've seen some ppl do that on tiktok haha
If your sketchbooks feel too thin for qouache you can actually gesso the paper first. Personaly I preffer using boards or 300gsm paper and sketchbooks for them.
I LOVED how Adam's art looked in this style!!!
(Steph's too of course, I think it was just exciting to see Adam's art with bright colors!)
Happy belated Birthday, Steph! Last Saturday evening I looked at my cat and was like “omg, gogo! It’s Steph’s birthday! Happy birthday Steph!” ... and gogo kitty looked at me like I was a crazy person 😂
I super love the new title card with the piglets on it 😍
I'm so glad to drop in on a video again, I really like how i dont feel like I HAVE to buy something after each video, it's just chill and we art along together. And HNNNNGH, I love swatch time.👌😩 So good!
It's nice to see an honest review of this set! I always thought they look at dipping sauces too haha. I don't hate them, I like the colors, but they end up a little chalky for me.
I got this set for Christmas and I like them so far. However, I did some searching around reviews and prepared a bit before I used them. For the moment:
1. I kept the "lids" on them because they have the color names and keeps it from getting on the lid. I am also considering cutting a piece of wax or parchment paper to stick on top of them, getting rid of the lids, and writing the names of the colors on the paper.
2. keeping a small spray bottle around to mist the paints before I close the lid.
3. ALWAYS KEEP IT FLAT XD
but aside from that, it's a lot of paint for the price to use for larger pieces!
I feel like if I bough the qouache I’d mistake it for dipping sauce and accidentally poison myself
WE ALL BEEN THERE
Always a pleasure to watch you two drawing and trying new things! I tried these paints last year and kind of forgot about it before returning to them a few weeks ago. I found them really disappointing when I first tried them last year. However, when I tried them again recently I found them more easy to use as they had dried a bit in the pots and spraying them with water. It's way easier to use when they dry a bit, it avoids the gloopiness and it's a lot smoother. I achieved some interesting effects with it at last!
Awesome so nice to see such an honest unbiased review and very cute drawings as well 🐸☺
The gloppiness reminds me of the white goache I use for white details in my ink drawings, But at least you want it to gloppy, because it need to cover up and stay in place, this make less sense, it need to thin a lot out. Such a nice case for them, however really you can only travel with them unopened or wrap every paint container in plastic wrap.
Murphy's law that you'd buy them as a joke only for the internet to go nuts for them XD super cute art this week, guys!! Good to see another review for the jelly gouache. ♡
Aww, I love your creations, I'm surprised how cute Adam's frog came out as he rarely uses such bold colours
can we talk about how cute that intro is though? still can't get over it.
He's super fun and supportive, I'm totally jealous! Awesome vid :)
Watching this to see of they are worth buying for Christmas because i really want to get into gouache for
I say go for it! You can get the smaller set if you worry that gouache isn't your medium. I have had my set for over 2 years and still use it frequently. If ever you run out of a color in the set Himi actually has refills sachets or jelly pans.
I used Pelican gouache about 20 years ago now and they were pretty good. I loved using the white one with watercolour to get a nice gradient from a light source. I want to get white gouache again for that reason.
It’s funny to see Adam saying “ohhhhh nooooo” the second he starts using the paints 😂 Thanks for putting yourself through that for us Adam! And Steph’s gouache pallets looks like it has THE MOST LOVE! I really like the bright highlighter yellow wings on Steph’s painting!
You guys are hysterical!
You can do the washes with gouache to.. it's literally opaque watercolour.. the point is to build up layers
I love my set as they really perform well, but are not at all light fast. So they are an affordable way to practice in my sketchbook and save the expensive light fast options for work i intend to display or sell .
Seeing this video is really satisfying, because I too, thought about buying these in the craze over them. But after watching Steph's gouache videos, I decided to buy Holbein gouache set as my first gouache, and I even made a dried down travel palette. I was worried that I was jumping the gun by buying artist grade gouache while I'm still a beginner. BUT I'd say Steph steered me in the right direction, and I've been having so much fun with gouache!
VINDICATION.
I would not travel with this but I just bought a pallete with tight lid, and portable cup, small one but ideal for travel
This sounds like such a cute idea!
I just bought this last week! SO happy to see you use them! Hi from Tokyo
i had the smaller set of these and the container wouldnt close tight enough and they dried out :L
You should have got the the big set ^u^ Steph would be going bonkers for it! Those are really nice colors tho, and you guys made awesome art with it!
Maybe we could pick it up some day! This one was just in our price range
@@DoodleDate oh okay ^u^ haha. It sucks that the more colors the more expensive it is. That's something I never understood (I once got a 96 pack of crayola crayons from the dollar store tho, American dollar store)
If you want the colour names I can give you them? I've bought these individually and have all 70 of the 30ml colours available, all 12 of the ones not available as 30ml and the 1 60ml one.
Also the names might be on a sticker on the very bottom of the case if you flip it over.
You two make me so happy. Thank you❤️
Honestly my first introduction to gouache was Windsor & Newton and I must say for their primary set you get some good quality paint that moves like butter compared to the HIMI gouache. The jelly gouache gets the job done and does it well. I have only tried the Holbein pastel/neon blue and pink in watercolor and the pigment quality is top notch.
I like using mine more like watercolors. I like that you can water them down or have them be extremely pigmented.
Adamo's froggy dude reminds me of a Tonberry
I’d love to see these in another video.,……where you do one painting with these and another with dipping sauces……..your ‘will it paint’ series was one of my favourite things ever.
gouche can be used as is or with water which makes it move around easier!
I brought your doodles and me and loved it. Are you going to do another. Maybe one with your best artwork in. ????
I love watercolour and I love gouache. I dont like acrylics because it is harder to blend with them and they dry out pretty fast. They also dry shiny which I dont like. I like that they are opaque. So gouache is really nice because it is pretty much opaque watercolour - I mean it is not but it is. Lol, I even use my watercolour tubes sort of like gouache. and my gouache like watercolour. I mean mainly I do watercolour techniques and use them more opaquely where I need to. II use water based gouache and also water them down quite a bit but then layer and layer and layer. And they dont dry out if I am working on a piece for multiple days. Never tried Himi though. Its hella expensive for me.
❤️❤️❤️ just luck I’m so early
It's great to see you Lucas!!
@@DoodleDate thx u for the reply , haven’t watched any of your videos since yours take a break but so happy u popped up in my suggested yesterday, binged a few of your videos and happy too see a new uploads , best wishes x
WHAT A CUTE OPENING
I really need an empty conteiner for any water based paints I buy in the future, and I am very tempted to buy this for this reason (and because in Brazil, the prices for imported empty palletes are absurd, like those nice acrylic ones for professionals). But I don't know if it's worth it, and if the box could have this function once I use all the himi paint (wich has a decent quality for me for now, since I am relearning how to paint, and have amost never used professional paints before) . I couldn't find anything similar to those acrylic boxes here, and I want to make my own gouache pallete with better paints once I get better at it again😥😩
Ive found with my Himi gouache, if you let them dry up just enough for them to thicken up a bit (like wait for the top layer to be a bit crusty) and then stir them they tend to behave more like a typical gouache
Another awesome video thanks you two
absolutely going bonkers for Adam's frog adjacent wizard
I love steph's color sense and style! Adamo's sick frog also came out adorable despite having to use a medium he wasn't comfortable with. Several of my art friends have come to the same conclusion: these paints are fine, but they're not the best and they have limitations. I'll stick with my gouache tubes.
Winsor & Newton does a lovely vibrant gouache, Royal Talens too, and I’ve heard Schmincke is good. I tried Daler Rowney and thought they were chalkier and duller. I don’t know why these are made with a jelly/gloopy consistency, but they’re ready mixed for students to save time in exams.
If you want another 'professional' brand to try one day, I LOVE M. Graham gouache. Can be a little touch and go to find outside the US, but the color selection is lovely traditional fine art pigment based (natural hues....no neons, metallics, premixed variations of saturation and value like Holbein and W&N has). Has a lovely creamy consistency out of the tube because it uses northwest honey in the binder. Can take a few extra days for travel palettes to dry completely, although nowhere near the dry time of the 'pudding cup ' gouaches like Himi...
Thanks for for the video. Cheers!
Just found your channel and I love it! Thanks so much for the review! Looking to get into watercolor and gouache
I think I’ve watched this video like 7 times already, so basically what I’m saying is we demand gloopy carbonara merch
Lol and here I am watching it again 😅
I got the 18 colour set of Himi gouache, I found them great to use. I also have the 48 set of Shinhan Pass which is supposed to be a hybrid gouache. I haven't tested it out how good they are as watercolours since i have proper watercolours and i use the shinhan like a gouache. I also have Acryla gouache from Turner, they are the most opaque and a little goes a very long way.
I really hated the smell of these paints. I have the smallest set and it still takes up a lot of room on the desk so they're not easy to use unless you take out the individual colors you plan to use, which is messy and inconvenient... I eventually gave the set away because I never used it and it began to get dry. I did manage to reactivate them by adding water and mixing them up.
Yes yes yes! I have this set! (But the 18 count one)
So weird, I just gave this palette away today to a friend hahahah… such timing! I had to part with it since I never use it, but it went to a good home so I’m not sad about it. Fun video, guys! ✌️To add to the gouache brands, I really love Holbein and Turner!
I feel like for Steph it doesn’t live up to her other gouache pieces. Where as Adam’s I think actually worked to his advantage for this one.
I absolutely love gouche and I've been curious about these ever since they blew up on the internet.. but the one thing that puts me off is thinking of how long they'd stay usable.. I saw from people that it got kinda sticky in the box and on the lid mostly, some say to spray them with water regularly to keep them wet, but others say you shouldn't to that?? Seems like too much of a hassle to me honestly I think I'd prefer my many tubes over maintaining these things 😅 The lil sauce packet packaging is kinda cute though 💞
Love your art videos. Would love to try gouche. I use water color but need to stock up on water color paper. Hi from Canada
It’s fun to play with them, but that first piece that cracks on you because the paint is too thick. Hello learning curve hahaha it forced me to slow down, which I’m not mad at. Lol
wish i saw this before i got them cause all you see about them is AESTHETIC GHIBLI PAINTING and nothing about how hard they are to control. ordered a 24 got an 18 the seller gaslight gatekeep girlbossed me and ill have to wait for them to dry to be usable
I’m in need of a “gloopy carbonara” sticker now!
I have quite liked the Himi ganache, I have liked using it for more portrait painting, to get a more painterly style. Personally, I haven't had much luck using it for illustrations, but for portraits I have really enjoyed it. :)
Both of you are so cute and wholesome and so is your art and I love it so much!!