Love your narration! I think it's so good it could be your full time job. But the content is also top notch so I'll keep coming back for your videos! Keep up the good work and I hope you have a lot of fun while doing this.
Yes for the moment - still looking for a backup body but enjoying the simplicity for now. I am sure I will make things harder for myself shortly haha. Thanks for watching!
The Z8 is a bit too big and I don’t need all its features. It is class leading in so many ways though! I like a two camera setup so smaller is better. Z6III and a Zf is my workflow
How does low light performance of the Z6iii and Zf compare with a7RV? I experimented with Leica stuff but just sold it off and now looking for the best option for me.
I own and shoot a Canon R5 V1 and several Sony bodies like the A1, A7R5, and the compact C A7CII, and A7CR. I did shoot Canon with both film and all my DSLR but mirrorless really motivated me to add Sony. Very happy with Sony since the G and GM glass came along. While I used to shoot sports, landscape, architecture, event, portraits, and wildlife are my focus so I no longer buy 24 Mpixel cameras and haven’t invested yet in $10,000 telephoto lenses. I did originally pre-order the Canon R5 II but with all the cameras I own I changed my mine and will look again at the end of the year. I’ve focused a lot more on my compact body and lenses for travel. Do want to see what Sony can do as an A1 II.
Compact bodies are hopefully the next trend camera brands try to chase. It really is very convenient and gets more people into the hobby. Thanks for watching, hope you manage to try out the R5 II before making your decision at the end of the year.
@@BokehTherapyI switched from a Fuji X-T3 to a Sony A7iv and a couple of Sigma I series lenses, and while the Fuji was lighter with the small f2 primes, Fuji’s better 1.4 lenses narrows the weight differential. I also find the Sony feels more solid and the dials are not as loose as the Fuji. The autofocus of the Sony is on another level. The move by Sony to make smaller lenses like the 2.5 g series, and more compact bodies like the A7 Cii, could very well make APSC into a lower cost niche for casual shooters, rather than trying to keep up with pro level and prosumer systems.
Sony got a lot of the things right in the last few years, hope they start focusing a lot more on the shooting experience and camera design too. It won’t take much, they have the resources. Thanks for watching!
Such a deep and technical video but enjoyable to watch. Your intro of being a scientist by day intrigued me as I once studied bio-chem in university about 30 years ago but decided to change majors to something more practical (money earning wise) than a science degree. I watch quite a bit of camera youtube channels and I’ve realized I’ve watched almost all of your videos except on one about zf settings (I’m not a Nikon shooter but will watch it tomorrow) One channel said, most of the cameras these days are so powerful that if you pick up any mirrorless from any camera brand it’s probably more than enough. I own and use one of canon’s latest the r6mk2 and it’s amazing in every aspect but it was too big to carry around for street and daily life with those big f1.2 lens. I recently picked up a 2019 model, m6mk2, and a 5 year old camera had all the features that I really want, mostly eye af. The 14fps is just a nice to have. But today I took my puppy in my yard and took photos of her running around and f1.2 and 30fps, is a nice to have, not necessary but nice to have. Which makes me think, there’s really no point in upgrading cameras anymore for me for now as it’s way more than I need for my skill set. Better time is spent mastering my craft instead of lusting over gear. Also the r5mk2 is nice to have but it’s also $5800 cad, which is quite a bit of money for fun, but you gotta enjoy life as you only live life once so I can argue either way. Since picking up the ‘old’ 2019 camera, a smaller foot print, I enjoy taking photos and carrying my camera everywhere. It’s 2 tones silver and grey so it gives a semi retro look but with canon insides which I’m most familiar with. Keep up the great work and love your channel
Yes all the cameras are great, lots of passion for brands in our community. That’s what keeps the companies profitable! Really appreciate your time in watching all my videos, more to come soon!
A1 is in a different league. Especially in low light. Really impressed by it. Excellent videos with Gyrodata. Photo taking is incredible again especially in low light paired with so many great E lens. Again depends what your application is. For me nothing beats the A1 if you use it for both photos and videos. If you application is not what the A1 can do with one camera, then you don't need one. Also I don't know why people compare a 3 to 4 year old camera to a today's one, technology is a leap frog game.
The A1 is way ahead of its time both in feature sets and (sadly) price. Maybe the A1 Mark 2's biggest feature will be a reduced price? Looking forward to what comes next, thanks for watching.
Always look forward to bokeh therapy. I heard you say you've kept your Sony glass, have you used any adapted to your ZF? Also, what made you drop the a7cr for the ZF? This winter I made the switch to mirrorless with the Z8, which is a bit cumbersome for walking around and travel. Before I bought the Z8 I was looking at the Sony a7cii. I loved how compact it was but the ergonomics and EVF weren't the greatest and was too slow for wildlife and sports. I'm looking at getting a ZF but always find myself dreaming of the a7cii and compact Sony glass for a travel kit.
I haven’t adapted any E mount glass yet - I am afraid the Megadap autofocus adapter is one firmware update away from being broken haha. I still use Sony bodies for video in my day job, having some lenses helps with that while I wait for the next body. The low light performance of the Zf is what made me switch - realise I need that more than resolution. If I had to do it again I would just go for the A7CII to save some money over the A7CR
I would go Nikon Z8, Canon R5 Mark II, then the Sony A7R5 in terms of specs and capability. But if you already have any lenses in any of these systems just go with the same one. They’re all great cameras.
Yes the Zf and its low light ability and two card slots are great for wedding, unless you shoot with their f1.2 glass. Ergonomics are better on the Z6III for the heavier lenses
I feel like Sony is a threat to themselves. Over saturation, maybe due to product segmentation, and lack of timely software updates. In thinking about the Sony a1 ii, I would ask myself if it would make things easier and how it would help me improve from what I have now. Personally at a point where I need to stop looking at hardware and specs and work on myself lol If I didn’t have the a9iii, I probably would have made the switch to the Canon R5ii Is that Jordan 1 defiant on your feet? As always, great video Jack.
Oh you got the A9iii! Congrats, it's an amazing bit of kit. I knew you'd appreciate the Jordan 1 defiant - they're actually my very first pair. Back when Jordan 1s were hard to get, now they're sitting at retail every where
Hope you get paid to shoot those high school basketball games! I tried out the A9III in Tokyo - like the beefier grip, and how it was just silently amassing gigabytes worth of shots and data haha.
Yes it is, most mechanical sensors are. But one more part to wear out (if you’re doing continuous shooting this will accelerate wear and tear), and electronic sensors mean faster video specs too
I tried out the Sony A1 recently and was very disappointed! I get now what Ken Rockwell means when he says using a Sony feels like operating an old school VCR. Also, what I didn't understand is why when you hit the shutter very quickly in succession, what you see is the video feed jitter as opposed to seeing a pristine video feed like the Z8/Z9. I guess it doesn't have the dual stream technology that the Z8/Z9 has?
Thanks for another great video! I really love the historical context you provide, in this video and others. It is interesting to hear about, as I wasnt following any of this until recently. Generally I love to see new camera releases to see what is new and reflect on how it might change the market. I also agree that Sony always seems so much of a technology company, trying to push innovations, but ultimately seems to lack some intangible element that many of the other camera companies have.
@@BokehTherapy yeah, they are really helping push the industry forward, which is great! I am doing well thanks! I just took some photos at a rock concert and was really impressed with how the 50mm 1.8s did.
The grass is always greener… until you make the switch. I’ve been planning to move back from Sony to Canon over the last few years… bought an R, an R8, some lenses. Canon’s UI and ergonomics are nice, although I prefer the Sony (r series) sensors. Having straddled both systems now for 3 or 4 years, I’m going to sell the Canon gear and firmly commit to Sony. Why? Well, Canon still aren’t anywhere with the type of small, fast, weather sealed primes I like. The new 35 f1.4, the R5ii and R1 confirm what I’ve come to realise - their commitment is really to sports and video shooters, not so much travel, street, landscape, studio which I enjoy. What’s helped me decide is buying the a7cr and 16-25. With the extension grip, the cr really has great ergonomics, and the UI is a big step up from previous iterations. Sony’s lenses just feel nicer too, and they have weather sealing at more reasonable price points. Also Sigma’s I-series lenses are fantastic. I used to love Canon’s EF-L lenses… but the RF / RF-L design and plastic used just seems underwhelming and cheap feeling.
It really sucks being in multiple systems - just keeping track of the batteries and chargers is a lot of unnecessary work. Glad you have found a more streamlined workflow - happy shooting!
I would say the Nikon Z8 is still a better value of the 3, Canon still doesn't have 3rd party lens offerings and I'd say as a whole Nikon has better glass options for varying budgets. Since Sony got to the top of the mountain they seem to be less customer oriented now, ignore their customers requests for added features via firmware, or even feature requests. A lot of people were begging for 2 card slots on the A7CII and Sony just said, nope, you get what you get because we know best. The era of the Sony Dictatorship is here and probably here to stay for a while until they get toppled.
Totally agree. Z8 is a fantastic camera, Nikon wants to win back market share so is probably the most willing to give customers what they want for the next few years. Thanks for watching!
@@BokehTherapy A7IV / A7CII shoots oversampled 7k (up to 30p) and neither the A1 nor the A1II can oversample 8.6k. Just doesn't make sense. The R5II is also crippled by the lack of oversampled 4k60p that will be in the R5CII, but this is worse.
it will be interesting to see if the e mount restrics sonys innovation, there is a limit to what it can do from a glass point of view and stabilisation as the is not much room to spare there. do they launch a new mount that gives them that room? or can they leverage AI to help solve it instead??
Your lighting was perfect for the livestream Jack. Sony could really kick Canon in the kidneys in the A7S3/FX3, but will they. Never before did we think a stacked sensor would be in a camera under $4000, then Nikon Z6 III offered a partially stacked sensor. Could Sony surprise us with a global shutter in the he a7S4? If I was Sony, I'd wait until 2025 and make it happen. This would shock and sell very well, and help them take market lead. What do you think?
Thanks again for the invite Simon, was a lot of fun! I think the play might be to bring the cost of stacked sensors down dramatically. A global shutter without the (minor?) IQ compromises of the A9III would be amazing but still too expensive. Thanks for stopping by the channel!
My hunch is that the Sony A7V & A7Siv will have more megapixels, a partial - stacked sensor, and un-cropped 4k60. Do you have a link to the live talk video mentioned?
The perception is that Canon is behind in the tech, but they’re still leading sales by a fair margin. There’s some barrier Sony hasn’t crossed yet for a big segment of photographers? Haha but yes more third party lenses for everyone please
@@BokehTherapy Canon's lead in sales is primarily contributed by lower-end models and wholesale makes up a considerable portion. Take R100, R50, M50ii, for example. Agencies use them to take passport photos in which all you need good SOC jpeg and a kit lens. The professionals around me in North America are 75% Sony shooters, and the rental statistics can back up my claim.
I've witnessed that too in Australia. Photo agencies are switching their gear to Sony. Can't wait to see the next gen of cameras across all the brands.
@@BokehTherapy Associate Press was one of the earliest major adopter of Sony gear. And now on all the big stages they can been seen. Take that recent Trump photo, for example. Imagine using the bigger R1 with that flip out screen and bigger lens, it's less convenient than a9iii and a light GM2 lens.
Interesting times ahead. I'm hopeful Sony will not only innovate the tech but also continue refining the shooting experience - rising tide lifts all boats.
As much as I agree with the point about firmware updates at Sony and how deprioritized they are, the rest of the video doesn’t make much sense to me. A four year old camera is finally being passed on some features by a brand new one. Not exactly breaking news. And as a wildlife photographer, the A1 still competes with the likes of R5mkii and Z8. A bit better on some aspects, a bit worse in others. Probably the only point that’s valid to me but you don’t make, is that the A1 doesn’t justify its very hefty price premium anymore. And I do a fair amount of street photography too, I don’t understand the struggles you have with the A1. For me the better viewfinder alone has me pick the A1 over the A7cR any day. I don’t have much doubt that Sony will make a big jump forward with the A1mk2, it’s been too long to simply be a minor refresh. Even if it is just going to the A9iii body and all its advancements, and a slightly faster sensor, it will make the A1mk2 into a worthy successor. But I suspect they’ll have a few more tricks up their sleeves (new AF ai chip is my bet, they will have made progress over 2+ years).
The thing I'm finding as I talk to more and more photographers is that everyone's shooting experience is very subjective. As for street photography, something more casual looking (say the A7C line) doesn't intimidate people as much and it's easier to not bruise the scene. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I'm looking forward to what Sony comes up with next.
I agree that Sony lacks a strong connection with its customers. I left Nikon a while back when the A99 was released (I know, I'm dating myself). Sony neglected the A99/A77 group and isn't treating its current customers well. The last Sony cameras I used were the A7III and A7RIII. I returned to Nikon and began exploring Fuji. However, I've since sold all my Nikons, including the Zf, and will stick with my XT5 as it’s more convenient for street photography and travel. As always, great video!
The argument I have heard is that Sony doesn’t need a strong emotional connection because the tech innovation is enough. A pretty sad state of affairs for our camera industry if that is what sells. Great to hear that you have a minimal kit, Fujifilm is getting bad buzz of late but the cameras are more popular than ever
Fuji has been receiving a lot of criticism for its autofocus lately. However, it meets my needs. I understand that with high prices come high expectations, especially since competitors are excelling in autofocus. As for Sony, they might benefit from leveraging their Minolta heritage.
The funny thing is won’t take much - just release a chrome top version to the A7 line and people will run with it lol. I always used single point AF on my Fujis - hasn’t failed me yet
Thanks so much! I've been dealing with both Canon and Sony shooters' crossfire in the comments haha, glad to see someone thinks I'm on the right track with this one.
Sony has increased their market share for sure - the data I used is from 2023 but different sources have different numbers. Canon is still leading for now despite losing market share. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this interesting video. I could not disagree more with the statement that Sony makes the best photo cameras. I've shot Nikon (D700), Canon (5D) and Sony(a1). The a1 was **by far** the worst camera I've ever used. Indeed, beyond that I believe it to be the worst purchase I've ever made in my entire life. Given all the hype on youtube about the a1 I was so disappointed in the reality. Image quality didn't impress. Auto focus was underwhelming compared to the hype. Using the camera was a nightmare given the insane software ergonomics. But when I injured my thumb using this camera due to it's tortuous physical ergonomics...I had enough. After little more than 2 months with the a1, I dumped sony: sold all my GM master lenes and the A1; took a financial hit of roughly $2,000. Went with a Canon R3 and could no be happier. Improved auto focus, much better picture quality, and I don't feel like I'm holding a brick when using the camera. I actually look forward to taking photo now and don't feel like my camera is fighting me every step of the way. 🙂
Thanks for watching and commenting - I agree with your assessment overall. I didn’t have a good time using the A1 while I owned it, couldn’t quite put my finger on why. Took a lot of reflection to figure out it wasn’t the right tool for me. Interesting to hear about your experiences, especially relating to ergonomics. Are you interested in the R1?
Considering the R1 has an identical body to the R3 and improved the autofocus I would definitely consider upgrading. Beyond ergonomics, the main question I ask myself when considering any camera is will it improve my chances of getting the shot i want. I shoot mostly people and fast moving subjects and if the camera doesn't get the shot then what's the point? To that end autofocus is primary for me after considering ergonomics. The question for me then becomes: After selling the r3, would I spend roughly 3500 dollars and upgrade to the R1 to increase my chances of getting the shot by, let's say, 15 to 20%? Fortunately, I'm in a financial position to say yes I would pay $3,500 to increase my chances of getting the shot by 15 to 20% However, if I was not in the financial position I am in now, let's say this was 5 to 10 years ago, my answer would probably be no I would not upgrade. Though not perfect, I usually get the shot with the r3.... anecdotally speaking, roughly 90% of the time.
I am a sports photographer shooting Canon for almost 25 years. I have several bodies including some DSLR (1DX MK III) and 2 R3 bodies. I am very happy with the ergonomics of Canon pro-bodies and never found Sony bodies good in my hand. The autofocus is for me by far the best on the market and images coming from the sensor are just stunning. I plan to buy and R1 and an R5 MKII just to have more resolution when needed (it's not so often). Canon long glasses are almost perfect and I couldn't live without my RF 100-300 f/2.8 L IS USM ^^ - I am not saying the A9 III is not a good camera, just saying it won't give me a plus in the real world. At the end of the day overall feeling matter for something you work with every day, and I couldn't be happier with the R1 or R3 esthetics and pleasure to use.
This is what I have heard from all my Canon shooter friends - there’s a reason they’re top of the market! Always interesting to hear others experiences, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
Not to my knowledge - needs HDMI out? I never shot RAW video while I had the camera, too cumbersome of a workflow compared to a simple 10 bit h265 4:2:2 codec
When I first upgraded to the A1 i also felt the pressure of trying to do it “justice”
After a few years of using it, it’s just another camera.
Haha yup and the A1 ii is also now just another camera. Seems like a modest upgrade
Love your narration! I think it's so good it could be your full time job. But the content is also top notch so I'll keep coming back for your videos! Keep up the good work and I hope you have a lot of fun while doing this.
Thank you! Lots of work but also lots of fun. More to come next week!
Really enjoying your authenticity and intelligent outlook! So you're just shooting the Nikon Zf at present?
Yes for the moment - still looking for a backup body but enjoying the simplicity for now. I am sure I will make things harder for myself shortly haha. Thanks for watching!
@@BokehTherapywould you shoot the Z8 or Z6iii
The Z8 is a bit too big and I don’t need all its features. It is class leading in so many ways though! I like a two camera setup so smaller is better. Z6III and a Zf is my workflow
@@BokehTherapy makes sense.
Looking forward to some videos on the z6iii.
How does low light performance of the Z6iii and Zf compare with a7RV? I experimented with Leica stuff but just sold it off and now looking for the best option for me.
I own and shoot a Canon R5 V1 and several Sony bodies like the A1, A7R5, and the compact C A7CII, and A7CR. I did shoot Canon with both film and all my DSLR but mirrorless really motivated me to add Sony. Very happy with Sony since the G and GM glass came along. While I used to shoot sports, landscape, architecture, event, portraits, and wildlife are my focus so I no longer buy 24 Mpixel cameras and haven’t invested yet in $10,000 telephoto lenses. I did originally pre-order the Canon R5 II but with all the cameras I own I changed my mine and will look again at the end of the year. I’ve focused a lot more on my compact body and lenses for travel. Do want to see what Sony can do as an A1 II.
Compact bodies are hopefully the next trend camera brands try to chase. It really is very convenient and gets more people into the hobby. Thanks for watching, hope you manage to try out the R5 II before making your decision at the end of the year.
@@BokehTherapyI switched from a Fuji X-T3 to a Sony A7iv and a couple of Sigma I series lenses, and while the Fuji was lighter with the small f2 primes, Fuji’s better 1.4 lenses narrows the weight differential. I also find the Sony feels more solid and the dials are not as loose as the Fuji. The autofocus of the Sony is on another level. The move by Sony to make smaller lenses like the 2.5 g series, and more compact bodies like the A7 Cii, could very well make APSC into a lower cost niche for casual shooters, rather than trying to keep up with pro level and prosumer systems.
Sony got a lot of the things right in the last few years, hope they start focusing a lot more on the shooting experience and camera design too. It won’t take much, they have the resources. Thanks for watching!
Such a deep and technical video but enjoyable to watch. Your intro of being a scientist by day intrigued me as I once studied bio-chem in university about 30 years ago but decided to change majors to something more practical (money earning wise) than a science degree.
I watch quite a bit of camera youtube channels and I’ve realized I’ve watched almost all of your videos except on one about zf settings (I’m not a Nikon shooter but will watch it tomorrow) One channel said, most of the cameras these days are so powerful that if you pick up any mirrorless from any camera brand it’s probably more than enough.
I own and use one of canon’s latest the r6mk2 and it’s amazing in every aspect but it was too big to carry around for street and daily life with those big f1.2 lens. I recently picked up a 2019 model, m6mk2, and a 5 year old camera had all the features that I really want, mostly eye af. The 14fps is just a nice to have. But today I took my puppy in my yard and took photos of her running around and f1.2 and 30fps, is a nice to have, not necessary but nice to have. Which makes me think, there’s really no point in upgrading cameras anymore for me for now as it’s way more than I need for my skill set. Better time is spent mastering my craft instead of lusting over gear. Also the r5mk2 is nice to have but it’s also $5800 cad, which is quite a bit of money for fun, but you gotta enjoy life as you only live life once so I can argue either way.
Since picking up the ‘old’ 2019 camera, a smaller foot print, I enjoy taking photos and carrying my camera everywhere. It’s 2 tones silver and grey so it gives a semi retro look but with canon insides which I’m most familiar with.
Keep up the great work and love your channel
Yes all the cameras are great, lots of passion for brands in our community. That’s what keeps the companies profitable! Really appreciate your time in watching all my videos, more to come soon!
A1 is in a different league. Especially in low light. Really impressed by it. Excellent videos with Gyrodata. Photo taking is incredible again especially in low light paired with so many great E lens. Again depends what your application is. For me nothing beats the A1 if you use it for both photos and videos. If you application is not what the A1 can do with one camera, then you don't need one. Also I don't know why people compare a 3 to 4 year old camera to a today's one, technology is a leap frog game.
The A1 is way ahead of its time both in feature sets and (sadly) price. Maybe the A1 Mark 2's biggest feature will be a reduced price? Looking forward to what comes next, thanks for watching.
@@BokehTherapy Thanks
Always look forward to bokeh therapy. I heard you say you've kept your Sony glass, have you used any adapted to your ZF? Also, what made you drop the a7cr for the ZF? This winter I made the switch to mirrorless with the Z8, which is a bit cumbersome for walking around and travel. Before I bought the Z8 I was looking at the Sony a7cii. I loved how compact it was but the ergonomics and EVF weren't the greatest and was too slow for wildlife and sports. I'm looking at getting a ZF but always find myself dreaming of the a7cii and compact Sony glass for a travel kit.
I haven’t adapted any E mount glass yet - I am afraid the Megadap autofocus adapter is one firmware update away from being broken haha. I still use Sony bodies for video in my day job, having some lenses helps with that while I wait for the next body. The low light performance of the Zf is what made me switch - realise I need that more than resolution. If I had to do it again I would just go for the A7CII to save some money over the A7CR
Love the story telling you do on your videos
Thanks so much! Lot of work in planning so hope the video makes sense
Thank you. Would you recommend buying the Sony a7r5 or the Canon EOS R5 Mark II? or the Nikon
I would go Nikon Z8, Canon R5 Mark II, then the Sony A7R5 in terms of specs and capability. But if you already have any lenses in any of these systems just go with the same one. They’re all great cameras.
@@BokehTherapy Thank you
Is the ZF camera suitable for wedding photography and do you recommend it?
Yes the Zf and its low light ability and two card slots are great for wedding, unless you shoot with their f1.2 glass. Ergonomics are better on the Z6III for the heavier lenses
I feel like Sony is a threat to themselves. Over saturation, maybe due to product segmentation, and lack of timely software updates. In thinking about the Sony a1 ii, I would ask myself if it would make things easier and how it would help me improve from what I have now. Personally at a point where I need to stop looking at hardware and specs and work on myself lol
If I didn’t have the a9iii, I probably would have made the switch to the Canon R5ii
Is that Jordan 1 defiant on your feet?
As always, great video Jack.
Oh you got the A9iii! Congrats, it's an amazing bit of kit. I knew you'd appreciate the Jordan 1 defiant - they're actually my very first pair. Back when Jordan 1s were hard to get, now they're sitting at retail every where
@@BokehTherapy thanks Jack, I got it mainly got it to shoot high school basketball, but in hindsight it’s overkill for what I do as a hobby 😭 😂
Hope you get paid to shoot those high school basketball games! I tried out the A9III in Tokyo - like the beefier grip, and how it was just silently amassing gigabytes worth of shots and data haha.
Is the mechanical shutter on R5 not faster scanning than electronic
Yes it is, most mechanical sensors are. But one more part to wear out (if you’re doing continuous shooting this will accelerate wear and tear), and electronic sensors mean faster video specs too
@@BokehTherapy first curtain halves that and R5 500 000 clicks
I tried out the Sony A1 recently and was very disappointed! I get now what Ken Rockwell means when he says using a Sony feels like operating an old school VCR. Also, what I didn't understand is why when you hit the shutter very quickly in succession, what you see is the video feed jitter as opposed to seeing a pristine video feed like the Z8/Z9. I guess it doesn't have the dual stream technology that the Z8/Z9 has?
Z8/Z9 users are spoilt Steve! Despite the lower res the dual stream tech really is amazing.
Thanks for another great video! I really love the historical context you provide, in this video and others. It is interesting to hear about, as I wasnt following any of this until recently. Generally I love to see new camera releases to see what is new and reflect on how it might change the market. I also agree that Sony always seems so much of a technology company, trying to push innovations, but ultimately seems to lack some intangible element that many of the other camera companies have.
Sony is the upstart disruptor, gotta move fast and break things. Not everyone’s cup of tea but gotta respect it. Hope you’re doing well!
@@BokehTherapy yeah, they are really helping push the industry forward, which is great! I am doing well thanks! I just took some photos at a rock concert and was really impressed with how the 50mm 1.8s did.
That 50mm is a special lens!
The grass is always greener… until you make the switch. I’ve been planning to move back from Sony to Canon over the last few years… bought an R, an R8, some lenses. Canon’s UI and ergonomics are nice, although I prefer the Sony (r series) sensors.
Having straddled both systems now for 3 or 4 years, I’m going to sell the Canon gear and firmly commit to Sony.
Why? Well, Canon still aren’t anywhere with the type of small, fast, weather sealed primes I like. The new 35 f1.4, the R5ii and R1 confirm what I’ve come to realise - their commitment is really to sports and video shooters, not so much travel, street, landscape, studio which I enjoy.
What’s helped me decide is buying the a7cr and 16-25. With the extension grip, the cr really has great ergonomics, and the UI is a big step up from previous iterations. Sony’s lenses just feel nicer too, and they have weather sealing at more reasonable price points. Also Sigma’s I-series lenses are fantastic. I used to love Canon’s EF-L lenses… but the RF / RF-L design and plastic used just seems underwhelming and cheap feeling.
It really sucks being in multiple systems - just keeping track of the batteries and chargers is a lot of unnecessary work. Glad you have found a more streamlined workflow - happy shooting!
RF glass feels cheap? lol I don’t think you’ve owned any
@@sebvontas9446 16f2.8, 24f1.8, 28f2.8, 35f1.8, 50f1.8, 14-35f4, 24-105f4, 600f11. Sold a couple already.
And you?
I would say the Nikon Z8 is still a better value of the 3, Canon still doesn't have 3rd party lens offerings and I'd say as a whole Nikon has better glass options for varying budgets. Since Sony got to the top of the mountain they seem to be less customer oriented now, ignore their customers requests for added features via firmware, or even feature requests. A lot of people were begging for 2 card slots on the A7CII and Sony just said, nope, you get what you get because we know best. The era of the Sony Dictatorship is here and probably here to stay for a while until they get toppled.
Totally agree. Z8 is a fantastic camera, Nikon wants to win back market share so is probably the most willing to give customers what they want for the next few years. Thanks for watching!
7:13 Nothing like a Mark Galer article with a Hawthorn v Geelong action image. He was my lecturer at University over ten years ago.
Mark Gaier is an amazing resource - he must have been a great lecturer. In what subject?
@@BokehTherapy it was Photoshop editing IIRC.
That sounds great. Hope he’s still teaching some classes in addition to RUclips
The A1II release hasn't aged well. That might also means that the A7V might not be a big update either.
I think I made the right call about this at the time. Original A1 still great, hope price comes down
@@BokehTherapy A7IV / A7CII shoots oversampled 7k (up to 30p) and neither the A1 nor the A1II can oversample 8.6k. Just doesn't make sense.
The R5II is also crippled by the lack of oversampled 4k60p that will be in the R5CII, but this is worse.
“Entry level” Sony bodies seem to be the way to go. Don’t depreciate quite as much, I lost a lot on my A1 sale
it will be interesting to see if the e mount restrics sonys innovation, there is a limit to what it can do from a glass point of view and stabilisation as the is not much room to spare there. do they launch a new mount that gives them that room? or can they leverage AI to help solve it instead??
I’m sure Sony will figure it out - too many advantages go their way on the R&D side and sensor technology. Exciting times for us up ahead!
Your lighting was perfect for the livestream Jack. Sony could really kick Canon in the kidneys in the A7S3/FX3, but will they. Never before did we think a stacked sensor would be in a camera under $4000, then Nikon Z6 III offered a partially stacked sensor. Could Sony surprise us with a global shutter in the he a7S4? If I was Sony, I'd wait until 2025 and make it happen. This would shock and sell very well, and help them take market lead. What do you think?
Thanks again for the invite Simon, was a lot of fun! I think the play might be to bring the cost of stacked sensors down dramatically. A global shutter without the (minor?) IQ compromises of the A9III would be amazing but still too expensive. Thanks for stopping by the channel!
My hunch is that the Sony A7V & A7Siv will have more megapixels, a partial - stacked sensor, and un-cropped 4k60. Do you have a link to the live talk video mentioned?
Thanks! Will put it in the description
Sony's biggest threat is Canon fully opening their lens mount to Sigma and Tamron 😂
The perception is that Canon is behind in the tech, but they’re still leading sales by a fair margin. There’s some barrier Sony hasn’t crossed yet for a big segment of photographers? Haha but yes more third party lenses for everyone please
@@BokehTherapy Canon's lead in sales is primarily contributed by lower-end models and wholesale makes up a considerable portion. Take R100, R50, M50ii, for example. Agencies use them to take passport photos in which all you need good SOC jpeg and a kit lens. The professionals around me in North America are 75% Sony shooters, and the rental statistics can back up my claim.
I've witnessed that too in Australia. Photo agencies are switching their gear to Sony. Can't wait to see the next gen of cameras across all the brands.
@@BokehTherapy Associate Press was one of the earliest major adopter of Sony gear. And now on all the big stages they can been seen. Take that recent Trump photo, for example. Imagine using the bigger R1 with that flip out screen and bigger lens, it's less convenient than a9iii and a light GM2 lens.
Interesting times ahead. I'm hopeful Sony will not only innovate the tech but also continue refining the shooting experience - rising tide lifts all boats.
Sony only need to do 4k60 oversampling to beat r5 mark ii.
Uncropped too please
Spot on.
Thanks for watching!
As much as I agree with the point about firmware updates at Sony and how deprioritized they are, the rest of the video doesn’t make much sense to me. A four year old camera is finally being passed on some features by a brand new one. Not exactly breaking news. And as a wildlife photographer, the A1 still competes with the likes of R5mkii and Z8. A bit better on some aspects, a bit worse in others. Probably the only point that’s valid to me but you don’t make, is that the A1 doesn’t justify its very hefty price premium anymore. And I do a fair amount of street photography too, I don’t understand the struggles you have with the A1. For me the better viewfinder alone has me pick the A1 over the A7cR any day. I don’t have much doubt that Sony will make a big jump forward with the A1mk2, it’s been too long to simply be a minor refresh. Even if it is just going to the A9iii body and all its advancements, and a slightly faster sensor, it will make the A1mk2 into a worthy successor. But I suspect they’ll have a few more tricks up their sleeves (new AF ai chip is my bet, they will have made progress over 2+ years).
The thing I'm finding as I talk to more and more photographers is that everyone's shooting experience is very subjective. As for street photography, something more casual looking (say the A7C line) doesn't intimidate people as much and it's easier to not bruise the scene. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I'm looking forward to what Sony comes up with next.
I agree that Sony lacks a strong connection with its customers. I left Nikon a while back when the A99 was released (I know, I'm dating myself). Sony neglected the A99/A77 group and isn't treating its current customers well. The last Sony cameras I used were the A7III and A7RIII. I returned to Nikon and began exploring Fuji. However, I've since sold all my Nikons, including the Zf, and will stick with my XT5 as it’s more convenient for street photography and travel. As always, great video!
The argument I have heard is that Sony doesn’t need a strong emotional connection because the tech innovation is enough. A pretty sad state of affairs for our camera industry if that is what sells. Great to hear that you have a minimal kit, Fujifilm is getting bad buzz of late but the cameras are more popular than ever
Fuji has been receiving a lot of criticism for its autofocus lately. However, it meets my needs. I understand that with high prices come high expectations, especially since competitors are excelling in autofocus. As for Sony, they might benefit from leveraging their Minolta heritage.
The funny thing is won’t take much - just release a chrome top version to the A7 line and people will run with it lol. I always used single point AF on my Fujis - hasn’t failed me yet
@@BokehTherapy I know, right? I still use my Nikon D810 (I kept that one) from time to time and can use it in single-point focus without issue.
Amazing video
Thanks so much! I've been dealing with both Canon and Sony shooters' crossfire in the comments haha, glad to see someone thinks I'm on the right track with this one.
I’d rather have an old dog with soul (Nikon ZF/Z8 shooter speaking)
Me too, fully switched to Nikon since. Having a great time with the system!
As a Sony shooter for years ... I would keep the a7siii for real estate and dump the rest of my Sony gear for Canon !
Interesting perspective - Canon is coming out with some great stuff. Hope you find the kit that works best for you!
You are right
Better ergonomics would be a minimum. How hard is it to do research on what shape is easier on hands.
Yes they have changed the grip a lot, but not enough still
If Sony did not open new technology in cameras we all would be shooting clunky DSLR cameras. Thank you Sony!
Agree. They’ve done something amazing for the industry, let’s see what comes next. Thanks for watching!
Not a flagship body. It's not even on par with any integrated grip body with a proper battery and true weatherproofing
The A1? Sony prioritises the tech more than traditional pro features I think. Thanks for watching
Unfortianly You use old data about %% canon and Sony, Canon Lost their part , but Sony increase. Look at number 2023.
Sony has increased their market share for sure - the data I used is from 2023 but different sources have different numbers. Canon is still leading for now despite losing market share. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this interesting video. I could not disagree more with the statement that Sony makes the best photo cameras. I've shot Nikon (D700), Canon (5D) and Sony(a1). The a1 was **by far** the worst camera I've ever used. Indeed, beyond that I believe it to be the worst purchase I've ever made in my entire life. Given all the hype on youtube about the a1 I was so disappointed in the reality. Image quality didn't impress. Auto focus was underwhelming compared to the hype. Using the camera was a nightmare given the insane software ergonomics. But when I injured my thumb using this camera due to it's tortuous physical ergonomics...I had enough. After little more than 2 months with the a1, I dumped sony: sold all my GM master lenes and the A1; took a financial hit of roughly $2,000. Went with a Canon R3 and could no be happier. Improved auto focus, much better picture quality, and I don't feel like I'm holding a brick when using the camera. I actually look forward to taking photo now and don't feel like my camera is fighting me every step of the way. 🙂
Thanks for watching and commenting - I agree with your assessment overall. I didn’t have a good time using the A1 while I owned it, couldn’t quite put my finger on why. Took a lot of reflection to figure out it wasn’t the right tool for me. Interesting to hear about your experiences, especially relating to ergonomics. Are you interested in the R1?
Considering the R1 has an identical body to the R3 and improved the autofocus I would definitely consider upgrading. Beyond ergonomics, the main question I ask myself when considering any camera is will it improve my chances of getting the shot i want. I shoot mostly people and fast moving subjects and if the camera doesn't get the shot then what's the point? To that end autofocus is primary for me after considering ergonomics. The question for me then becomes: After selling the r3, would I spend roughly 3500 dollars and upgrade to the R1 to increase my chances of getting the shot by, let's say, 15 to 20%? Fortunately, I'm in a financial position to say yes I would pay $3,500 to increase my chances of getting the shot by 15 to 20% However, if I was not in the financial position I am in now, let's say this was 5 to 10 years ago, my answer would probably be no I would not upgrade. Though not perfect, I usually get the shot with the r3.... anecdotally speaking, roughly 90% of the time.
I am a sports photographer shooting Canon for almost 25 years. I have several bodies including some DSLR (1DX MK III) and 2 R3 bodies. I am very happy with the ergonomics of Canon pro-bodies and never found Sony bodies good in my hand. The autofocus is for me by far the best on the market and images coming from the sensor are just stunning. I plan to buy and R1 and an R5 MKII just to have more resolution when needed (it's not so often). Canon long glasses are almost perfect and I couldn't live without my RF 100-300 f/2.8 L IS USM ^^ - I am not saying the A9 III is not a good camera, just saying it won't give me a plus in the real world. At the end of the day overall feeling matter for something you work with every day, and I couldn't be happier with the R1 or R3 esthetics and pleasure to use.
This is what I have heard from all my Canon shooter friends - there’s a reason they’re top of the market! Always interesting to hear others experiences, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
😂😂😂 from the looks of it you never owned an a1, nice try sofa troll
Sony a7s4 a7r6 coming they going to kill canon 😂 Sony ain’t crazy they got heat coming
Facts
Yup first time in a long time Sony has not been dramatically ahead on specs. Soon!
@@BokehTherapycorrect me if I’m wrong, A1 can’t do any internal raw?
Not to my knowledge - needs HDMI out? I never shot RAW video while I had the camera, too cumbersome of a workflow compared to a simple 10 bit h265 4:2:2 codec