This evening I tested the buffer with pre-capture enabled in full RAW. With all processing turned OFF and using Prograde Cobalt 1.3TB v4.0 cards I obtained the following number of frames before the camera hit the buffer and said BUSY. 40 fps: 380 frames before the camera said BUSY 30 fps: 394 frames before the camera said BUSY 20 fps: 900+ frames and the camera never paused. I could have held the shutter down longer, but I did not see the purpose. I will likely setup the camera to default at 20 fps and set the half-press AF-ON button to toggle to 40 fps. Overall, I am impressed. Even at 40 fps I am getting about a 10 second buffer. Note, the manual only specifies 230 frames at 40 fps, but I did much better.
Not really Swiss watch movements are made in China and as they're mechanical they're far less accurate than an ordinary quartz movement watch. The R1 is a masterpiece of engineering and although Canon make a good profit on it it's very expensive to make and the performance is real whereas a Rolex is just a brand name and isn't worth the ridiculously over inflated price they charge for them
@@noelchignell1048 Swiss watch movements are not made in China or they couldn't be called Swiss watch movements. Rolex watches are completely hand made and machined by Rolex in Switzerland. I can tell you know nothing of the mechanical watch industry.
@@AlistairHig you're so wrong: do some research: from Wikipedia "A movement is considered to be Swiss if: it has been assembled in Switzerland; the technical development is carried out in Switzerland; it has been inspected by the manufacturer in Switzerland; at least 60 percent of the manufacturing cost are generated in Switzerland; and the components of Swiss manufacture account for at least 50 percent of the total value, without taking into account the cost of assembly." As the labour costs are very low in China they add one overpriced Swiss part typically the main spring to get over the 60% ratio. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_made#:~:text=a%20watch%20if%3A-,its%20technical%20development%20is%20carried%20out%20in%20Switzerland%3B,final%20inspection%20in%20Switzerland%3B%20and ruclips.net/video/Yf-3PvjUS8o/видео.htmlsi=ap8GNaA5yBoazv8n Cheers
Thanks for a very comprehensive review. I received my R1 from Canon Sydney yesterday. I also have an R3 but in the short time I have had the R1 I am surprised at how much better it is. I don't regret buying it.
When the R1 was announced I didn't think it was much of an improvement over my R3 so I got a Fuji GFX 100 II. Three months later I traded the Fuji in on a R5 II. When I compared R3 and Fuji shots to each other when the framing was the same I really didn't notice a huge difference between 24 and 102mp. I still don't think the R1 is worth the upgrade over the R3 but I wouldn't be surprised if I get one next year.
Sounds like it would be perfect for sports where you don't need higher MPs and may not encounter buffer issues because the action is a bit more predictable. Having used a high MP camera for wildlife, I don't think I could go back now, just because the ability to crop so much means you don't need the big heavy lenses.
It looks like beauty that R1 but I think my 1 series days are over I'm looking to reduce what I carry (getting old). Honestly even when I used 1 series I would occasionally leave it at home for a smaller body. The 24MP is great for sports but as you say a little less desirable when cropping. I think I could live with the 24MP. Now the main reason I'm going to avoid it is the price even grey it's too much for my hobby. Grey HK import A9III is looking good price these days GBP £3,799.00. UK R1 is $9,073.36 US Dollar. £6,999.00 from the UK dealers. Still think the best compromise is the Nikon Z8 as the Nikon lenses appeal to me more. Although if I was doing this professionally I likely might have consider the R1. Awesome review.
the R1 is basically what I expected.. an amazing body like the 1DX, great quality of life with all the buttons, the 2 same card slots and all.. great AF, the massive batteries I LOVE.. But at the end of the day it's very expensive for what it offers.. here in Noway we don't have large cockatoos that can fill up the frame and going back to 20ish MP is such a downer.. When it was the best available on the 1DXII it was fine, but going back down after the R5 just feels like I'm downgrading while paying double the price. Obviously Canon will never offer a pro body with the R5 models but one can only dream Love your content Jan, those photos and videos are amazing
I agree with you 1000%, Canon has said that they'll keep the R3 ( I love my R3) alive even after the release of the R1. We can only hope and pray that the R3 MKII will be the high resolution pro body camera we've all been waiting for.
@@alansach8437 yeah yeah, until you take your camera in the snow or in the rain forest or a dune desert and your gear fail on you in middle of it. Yes you can take fantastic photos with a 400 bucks camera and a kit lens, but there are reasons why the pro gear costs thousands more. I took some amazing photos with a 2x and 100-400, that doesn't mean I don't want a 600 to make my life so much easier, getting more light in, lower iso, miss less shots etc.
3:25 - Do you really need a global shutter? No Z9, A1, or R3 owners have complained about rolling shutter issues. Although I hate the prices of Canon, their AF is something award worthy.
Global shutter can be useful in eliminating banding in complex indoor lighting. However, for my use I don't have a need for a global shutter. My guess is that the R1 Mk2 will have Canon's first global shutter.
@@JohnSwen-p6b Curious what Nikon will do with the acquired RED company that also has global shutter cameras. It's all Nikon's now. The Z9 II will be epic. Sadly the R1 and A1 II were minor updates of already good cameras.
Another great video! We all know how difficult it is to create this kind of content, especially for an independent, non-sponsored channel reviewing a flagship camera. Your footage and photos of the R1 are incredible, and I'm loving them! I know some might think it's silly to pay $6,300 for a camera with 'only' 24MP (and it's the lowest resolution of any kind of camera) when my 5D Mark III from 12 years ago had similar resolution. But it’s really about performance. I saw the small blue box tracking the eye, and I already know my R5 would struggle with that. I’m torn between AF and resolution-what’s more important? It feels a bit embarrassing to ask this about a flagship camera, but my R5’s AF is not fast enough to follow the action in below two scenarios; it’s out of its ability somewhere. I’ve missed so many shots of a striated heron striking into the water for fish; the before and after shots are razor sharp, but that critical moment is often blurred. The same goes for sea eagles catching fish with their claws. Before and after the strike are sharp, but that split second of contact is blurry, especially when I can’t get a very low angle to isolate the eagle from the background. R5 does focus on water or is distracted by water. those frustrating moments, I’ve felt like throwing my R5! It’s hard to ignore that Canon’s sensor technology feels 4 years behind Sony, especially considering the Sony A1 has 50MP at 30fps. And when it comes to buffer technology, Canon seems to lag significantly-50MP at 30fps is far faster than 24MP at 40fps. Need not to say the next level A9 III, not only carrying global shutter with the same resolution 24MP, but also running 3x speed, 120fps. Your video has me seriously considering the R1 for those action shots, while keeping the R5 for smaller birds. Thanks for sharing your insights, even if they’re a bit painful! Canon, you really need to catch up with Sony and Nikon; our patience is wearing thin.
@10:40 - The R1 may be the first full-frame camera to have all-cross type AF sensors, but the OM1 has had all-cross type AF sensors for a a couple years.
Hi Jan! Have really enjoyed your recent videos about the new Canons... Any chance you could do a setup guide for the R1? The R5ii is similar, but there are some differences regarding AF setup that would be great to gain some clarity on! Thanks!
we need more R1 content.. also bird photo tips, but right now people need more R1 videoes :D hehe thank you for making some The video clips from the R1 in this video looks like soemthing from a BBC nature documentary.. its wild.
Jan great R1 review for bird photography! You covered both your likes and dislikes - very balanced review. Maybe Canon can fix some of your dislikes (such as buffer issues ) w a firmware update. Just like the way you present information in your LR / PS classes - clear, precise, useful info, right to the point.
The R1 does look like an amazing camera for wildlife but I am already well into the Nikon Z system and they are just absolutely spoiling me with lenses. Going to Canon just now (while giving access to the 100-300 and 100-500) is mostly compromises. I would have to give up the 400 f/4.5, 600 PF, and 800 PF which Canon has no equivalents for just now. And then I would have to give up my 600 f/4.0 TC for an older design lens that doesn't have a built in TC. And the R1 just isn't far enough ahead of the Z9, and surely we'll see a Z9ii and Z9iii and Z9iv that'll all have pro's and con's vs their generations R1.
I agree, the R1 is an amazing camera in and itself but wild life photographers have tasted the high megapixel fruits of the flagships of other brands like the A1 and Z8/9. The ability to crop with little loss in quality is something a lot of them are not willing to give up. Canon missed the boat on this segment of the market.
24 vs 45MP isn’t the issue for me. It’s Canon (and Sony’s if we include them) lens lineup. Canon needs a stronger lens lineup. Sony needs a stronger lens lineup and a big body that can hand the elements with an integrated grip.
We can agree that the 600 and 800 PF are great as the enthusiast "I don't have 14,000$ but want nice quality" lenses, although, the 600 has the same aperture as any 200-600, and sharpness improvement, if it exist, isn't really noticable, aside from 300% zoom on Lightroom. I just don't get this lens. The other brings at least 2/3, 1 stop of aperture. Nikon's body are really not great today, they are lacking performance wise and make stupid choices (no bird autofocus and raw pre-capture on the Z6III ??), but gotta admit, that 600 f4 with built-in TC is a dream. I went with the Canon R6II because of the lenses. Because other than wildlife, Canon is killing everyone, that 24-105 f2.8 with parfocal is just insane and unique, as well as the 200-800 for wildlife (no one has that reach in the budget category). Their autofocus is way better (although not on the R6II but eh). Unfortunately I hate their body design. I wish they had red menu for astro. In fact, I want a Nikon software, in a Nikon shell, with Nikon wildlife lenses, Canon "regular" lenses, and Canon's sensors.
@@KofieBluejay the 600 PF is a lot lighter in your hand than the 180-600 and 200-600. It is also a lot sharper and brighter (t-stop). The Z6III does have bird detection, it is built into the animal AF mode. The bird AF in the Z8 and Z9 is a special mode above this that is specifically for the stacked sensors. What the Z6III is what the Z8 and Z9 started with. The stacked sensor optimised bird mode is faster and more sticky, but it doesn't necessarily recognise more unique subjects.
@@codebunnies with the modern noise reduction software and a bit of sharpening (cuz the sharpness difference isn't that big), I really can't justify a prime compared to the usefulness of a zoom. Despite what PF apologists would have me believe, not all animal action is suited for a 600mm focal length and a "reach around" 2nd or 3rd body "just in case I need that 200 or 400". matter of fact, even if someone gave me those primes for free, f4 15000$ and all, I'd give that up in an instant for a 100-500 or 200-800, or 180-600, "dark aperture" really being a non-issue these days. and we edit the images anyway, so a step of noise-reduction during a batch processing session is just a box that has to be ticked and no-one has to bother themselves with switching between copious primes to get "the shot", or simply be constrained by a single prime if someone is on the budget (or doesn't want to carry more than one prime) and not get anything aside from a particular set of images due to being able to only shoot at one focal length 300 f2.8 is a great focal length/aperture combo, Sony's version - even more so, but in the world of Canon's 100-300 f2.8 - I'd be hard pressed to switch to Sony, even if canon's offering is more expensive. As for that price - the image quality of that zoom is on par with the primes, and ITS A ZOOM. So theres that Same on the Nikon's side - seems pretty redundant with the 600PF when I can have a great zoom with a close enough sharpness, and ITS A ZOOM. These days, canon and Nikon make zooms that make primes almost/fully obsolete, so yeah, thats my two cents, respectfully
Great review! The R1 is way too much camera for me, but I can definitely see why some photographers will love this camera. I think there is one in your future, Jan. 😉
Hey Jan! Your video quality is absolutely stunning - I’m really curious, what camera and lens setup you used for this specific video, and I don’t mean the R1 btw. It would be awesome to know more about your gear and any tips you have for getting this kind of quality. Thanks for always inspiring us with your content!
Great review a big thanks for all the effort. R1 is on my shopping list to replace my old 1DxMk2. Im almost never pixel limited so 24MP is fine by me and ive had wall size prints made from the 1DX so the 24MP is fine for my uses. Very glad to hear of the great high ISO and DR very much looking forward to doing some hi ISO night stuff. Thanks again.
And now I'll speak for us lowly zoo and aquarium shooters. Most of us will never see a safari so zoos, well respected with well cared for animals are a perfect option. Because there's not much of a need to crop since you already so close this camera could be a wonder at zoos with great DR for aquariums. Even better than the R5mk2. Thoughts on that angle Jan?
Thanks for such a thorough and early review. Really nice to hear your findings prior to the R1 shipping on a mass level. Lots of competition is coming around the corner. which keeps driving improvements albeit many are subtle or incremental. Getting your opinion is most helpful as I'm torn between an A1 II and the R1 -- having the larger megapixels is very enticing. Your video is certainly helpful for me to make an ultimate decision in due time. Keep them coming please and thanks again for an early post.
Very informative and thorough video! Just wanted to know how you would compare EOS R1 and Sony A9iii assuming you were using both of their native 600mm F4 prime lenses? Cheers
@ Thanks for your response! A9iii easily wins for capturing special moments because of its superior AF tracking capabilities or much faster frame rate?
@@stevenlui8105120fps vs 40. So you get a lot more chances. In terms of AF they’re quite close for action, but R1 has better subject recognition in bushes etc
Bird work looks easy until tried. Then you see how good Jan really is. Please do a buffer check raw at 30 fps. My hand calculations estimate 10. Seconds. Best Regards
First of all, thank you for your videos, Mr. Wegener. Regarding the R1, you use very good lenses. With lenses that have smaller apertures like the RF 100-500, which require working with higher ISOs, do you think the R5 Mark II would have a significant advantage in detail over the R1? Thank you.
Great and informative video, with some amazing photos and videos as always, Jan. Looks like an amazing camera, for sure. Wishing you and yours a great week. Cheers, Bjoern
Excellent video as usual, Jan. I'm not in the market for the R1 due to the Mp count, but it is great to see some of the new features and tech at play. I do wish that they had given us a 2-stage AF-ON with the R5II or at least an extra programmable button or two. Maybe the R5II well get the trickle down. Thanks for doing this!
Thanks for another great video. This is now my 2nd time watching it. As a wildlife stills photographer, I was hoping to see some examples in your video of some cropped images, as we all have to crop way too oftens because, you know, those birds just don't want to obey when you ask them to come closer.. While I loved my R3, the focusing issues on birds in flight was just not good. The R5II has solved that issue, but the DR leaves a bit to be desired and I find the graininess of cropped issues to be much higher than I'm used to. I'm toying with selling my R5II and moving to the R1, but don't want to be disappointed by another camera that's not QUITE what I want. Thanks, again!
The Rose Robin image in the video is cropped to about 3500 px on the long side. You can get away with it, but it's not like the R5 II, but as you say, when you need high ISO the R5 II kinda starts to fall apart a bit.
Very nice review! I miss the heft and ruggedness of the 1DX I used to use, but cannot go back to less than 45MP. So I, too, would like to see an R1 or R3 body with an improved R5-like sensor. Having said that, I would appreciate the lower noise due to the larger pixels. What do you recommend these days for noise reduction software for the R5 MkII? I got tired of paying so much for each new version of either DXO or Topaz that I've been using Lightroom's Enhance Denoise. It usually does a very good job but there are cases where I would appreciate a little better performance.
Hi Jan, your Insta-teasers made me look forward to this review, and both you and the R1 lived up to the hype 😛 I also strongly enjoyed the awesome birds of prey (and their babies) in this video !! Looks like the R5ii is aiming to be master of everything, but the R1 is the master of the R5ii .. at least as long as the R1 attracts the birds close enough to stop you from cursing the 24mp. You didn't compare it with the a9iii, but it looks like the IQ makes up for "only" getting 1/3 of the fps with such a fast sensor why bother taking compromises with for global shutter .. So I guess you'll next get the R1 instead of a third R5ii, right ?
That's a good way to put it! This camera dramatically beats the A9 III in IQ. Yes, I don't want 3 R5 II, so this would be good or R6 III, but not sure I can resist the R1 haha
@@jan_wegener heheh, the same way you made me unable to resist the R5ii, you made yourself unable to resist the R1 😛 The R6iii and R7ii will be good (and in your truck) as well, but they'll never beat the R1 of course
The question of quality and usability is always a pivotal point. After starting using Fuji 100 II all the other pictures seem to me low quality and low resolution. All the viewfinders are small and dull too. But it can’t take pictures of moving objects at all! 24 MP after all is showing up as a thumbnail though. So R5 series is still the best choice between worlds of quality and speed.
Hi Jan! My thoughts? I heard with much delight that you had really impressing video AF experience with the R1. I get more and more interested in this camera instead of the R5 II. Thanks a lot for this content! Kind regards, Ralf
I'd like if they could include a feature where you could assign a button that prevents back focusing. For situations where a subject is moving towards you, you'd hold down a button that limits the AF to only adjusting closer and disables it from hunting further from the point you press the button. But I think it would have to work with shutter button focusing, not back button focusing, otherwise you'd need to use 3 buttons simultaneously.
So I’m fairly new at wildlife photography, so this might be a silly question. Why would Canon use a 24MP sensor in the flagship camera? Cost? Performance? Better low light performance? Better buffer? What am I missing? This is too expensive for me, but I’m just left wondering.
More so, in canon's case, is that the one line whether the 1dx or r1 series has always been targeted as pro sports and press photography camera where autofocus and speed of file transmission are paramount to their success. 24mp is most suitable for these uses cases as it provides enough resolution and DR without file sizes being too large. This allows photographers to get their files to their offsite editors for quick turnarounds and getting the pictures to the client to be posted first.
Jan, can you do a high ISO test in video (not photos)? Early tests indicated the camera may clean up substantially at ISO 12,800. I wonder about 3200 and 6400 as well.
Jan, do you think you can do a video where you compare the R5ii and the R1? I see the R5ii as the master of all, due to the speed, af, and high mp sensor. One thing I’m particularly interested in is how much better is the R1’s AF over the R5ii.. Cross type AF is the difference but when compared side by side, is it that much of a difference? I def think the R1 is an excellent body but I think the R5ii has it beat in some areas, but welcome your thoughts!
You don't have a two stage AF On Button in the R5II sadly, but of course you can also set up a speed toggle and assign it to another button. I have my DOF Preview Button (the one on the front at the Lens Mount) set for 30fps mode for example, so I usually stay at 15 fps and when I hold down the DOF Preview button, the camera speeds up.
Thanks Jan, another great review. The Peregrine Falcon shots are awesome🙌. Although it's "only" a pre-production model, the fact that Canon are so far behind Nikon & Sony at the pointy end of cameras is disappointing and the issue with the buffer is very surprising. Hopefully the retail model has more processing memory. Otherwise, what a ripper.
@@jan_wegener Release date. Both Nikon & Sony released their high end cameras months and months ago and Canon is still playing catch up. As a Canon user I find it a bit disappointing. I think they have stretched themselves to far with such a diverse line up and in retrospect I think they should of released the R1earlier and not concentrated so much, if at all on the R3.
@@georgerussell8948would we have liked more? Of course? Is it possible? Not sure… overall the R1 is easily Canons best camera I don’t know if Canon was capable of making the R1 sensor when the R3 came out
Nice images and a comprehensive review, but not every photographer has similar needs. Although birding gives me tremendous joy, I am confined to a wheelchair, so I can't 'zoom with my feet'. As a result, I often need to crop with small birds, more than the average wildlife photographer. As you mention, one's ability to crop is "severely limited" at 24 MP. I therefore worry that 24 MP won't work for the amount of crop I need. That said, I hope that some of this tech. makes its way into the R7ii. A faster sensor and higher resolution EVF would be enough to make me upgrade from my R7/ RF 100-500, which is an awesome birding set-up.
Hi Jan can you use crop mode in 4k 120 P video with the R1 ? With my R5ii it changes to 4k 60P if i use crop mode. On my R3 it lets me use crop mode in 4k 120p I am hoping the R1 does too. Great video and I look forward to your answer . Thank you !!
The Evf resolution seems to be on par with my Sony. 9 million dots on the little screen is amazing. I just can’t get past the file sizes! That’s a deal breaker for me. My A1 shooting 30fps at 50mp is still dreamy. The thing I find most alluring (besides pre capture) is Nikons built in TCs on the lens. When Sony announces the A1ii next week hopefully I will have a choice to make! Get it or switch to Nikon for those lenses.
I feel like the difference at high ISOs feel like 2 stops at least, but I have not done a lot side by side with resizing etc. The main thing I can say is that the R1 has significantly more DR when using higher ISO
Great video Jan, awesome images. Just wondering. Are you able to feed back to Canon about some of the issues you found - such as the buffer? If it’s a pre-production model you were using maybe it’s something Canon may address before it goes on sale. Or maybe it’s too late and it’s not possible. But I agree with you, for the togs it’s aimed at, buffer should be “better”.
I'm sure it's too late to address things like the buffer. It seems like that hard stop is Canon wide issue and maybe more deeper rated than we think and not easy to change. Although it should be easy to give us a bigger sized buffer
Thanks for the review. I have a feeling the new Sony Alpha 1mkii will blow this camera out of the water in every way. I'll be looking forward to seeing if I'm proved right before I drop any money on the R1.
Thanks Jan. Great review. I think I'll avoid trying the R1 because I think it's overkill for my needs and I'd prefer not to know how good the EVF is. I would happily have paid more for an R5 with that viewfinder but that's just not how it works in Canon land. I expect the target audience for the R1 will be pleased. Yes, there are situations where a higher MP camera is helpful but no single camera can do everything and high MP cameras come with their own set of compromises. The R1 and R52 would seem to be a fairly capable pair of cameras capable of handling any task I could imagine.
@@jan_wegener also, I'm coming from an R5 to an R5m2 on my RF 600mm and I noticed a substantial af performance speed increase with the RF 600 motor, I know the 600mm has two motors and the R3 was utilizing it but do you know if the R5m2 is nows using the 2 motors and how does it compare to using it with the R1? I see quite a speed jump in the AF with my R5m2, thx
Canon has not shown us that they can produce a sensor with such high MP and a fast < 4 sec readout and very high DR. So it makes sense to stick to the 24 and max that out, which they did very well. The only such sensor we can currently find in the A1. Even Z8/9 are fast, but lack DR
Die R1 ist sicherlich eine Traumkamera. Die 24mp stören mich nicht - ich komme auch mit meiner R3 hervorragend zurecht. Der große Sucher ist sicherlich noch einmal wohltuend - aber meine R3 ist wie ein guter Freund und ich verzichte erst einmal auf die 40/s - 30/s erlauben mit auch adlerartige Bilder von anfliegenden Blaumeisen - ich denke der Sprung von 20 auf 30/s ist diesbezüglich der entscheidende Schritt gewesen - ich ziehe da den Vergleich mit meiner R5 heran. Und ja, der AF-on Button ist ein wesentlicher Grund warum ich die R3 weiterhin meiner R5 vorziehe. Die Arbeitsweise liegt mir sehr. Danke für deine Videos… mit aller Hochachtung …
What a great review. I regret that I got the R5ii for video and seriously consider to get the R1 because of lowlight and 4k50p oversampled. Because the R1 has a viewfinder I would prefer it even over the C80 - even it has ND filters. What do you recommend?
Dear Jan, excellent Review - however I noticed a lot of luminance noise in the dark areas of the video takes. Just curious with which camera you shot the frames? Kind regards, Simon
@@jan_wegener I think it was the BRoll. I am sorry to mention that - it's just noticable within the shadows...but when you talk about the sensor - and the sensor is in the shade within the mount - I couldn't help, but notice. But thank you so much for those amazing shots and wildlife tutorials of yours. I have to come around learning your techniques when it comes to editing! Chapeau
@@wuidzeit_simonno it’s exactly my observation as well. I have been using the R5 II instead of the R3, because the AF is significantly better, but the noise in dark areas is quite bad and 3200 already
Thanks for this! Absolutely looking forward to getting my R1. The new AF on button half press now has me excited! The IBIS enhancements look great. Of course we expected: AF improvements, super-clean IQ and pre-capture benefits, but those other quality-of-life updates add up too. Buffer definitely should be unlimited with this level of camera though. (I will say that was one thing I never had to worry about on the 1DX3.) Dual CFX. Full HDMI. Simplified UI + settings. CLOG2. R3 carryover features like 6K oversampling + 6K60 RAW. I can’t understand why this camera got a lukewarm reception. Maybe because it can’t make waffles too? 🧇😜
I was quite lukewarm about it, too. I feel like they should've focused more on those cool improvements. The marketing almost felt like here's another R3 when there is some major differences between the two. That AF-On button alone is incredible
Thinking about the R5II for portraits ¿Is it Canon still with the stupid way to set the white balance? ¿Or can you just focus, take the image and the WB is set like any other brand?
Better to buy an R6ii for portraits and buy a better lens like the RF 135mm f/1.8 or RF 85mm f/1.2 or maybe the RF 28-70mm f/2 , white balance can be set in many different ways on these cameras
Thanks a lot! 👍I am using the R5, wondering if it is worth to go for R5ii, than I read about its picture noice (at low light). My favorit is fast wildlife (birds, bats and insects in flight). Now what shall I do? 🤔 R1 (low reselution) or Sony a9iii (changing gear) ? Or stay at R5 using video (instead of photo shooting) at 4k with 120fps .....?
I drove 3 hours (each way) on Saturday to get my hands on an R1 that a good friend was sent. The ergonomics are fantasic, and I love the body. But... I've been yelling for a good year now that they MUST put Gen 4 card slots into this camera. They didn't. For me, that's a serious mistake for what is arguably the ultimate fast-shooting camera on the market. If it had Gen 4 slots, and could spool the buffer twice as fast, it would make the buffer shortcoming a lot less crippling. I regret that I didn't get to experience was whether the AF has better low-light performance, which is another one of the improvements I really wanted to see. I know that people are super excited about precapture, and it definitely has some benefit. But what I saw was exactly what I expected. When a bird suddenly moved, the precapture retained those images, but the birds are quickly at the edge of the frame, with a lot of clipped wings. You have to be moving the barrel along with the bird to prevent that, and if you knew enough to be moving the camera you probably wouldn't need the precapture. What you can't get around is that it changes the composition, which means you will probably want to crop... and that's when the 24mp becomes an issue. I loved the camera, just like I loved the R3 when it came out. But I REALLY wish it had Gen 4 slots, and 45mp like the R5 ii.
Thanks for sharing! It doesn’t even need gen 4 slots. I don’t think it even fully uses the speed of the other cards. The old R5 for instance only wrote at 518mb/s
@@jan_wegener Okay, I don't like to fill up comment sections, but I am confused. You talked about the issue with the buffer filling, and not being unable to take photos until it clears. I experienced the exact same thing. The way I understand it, the internal buffer fills and then that data has to spool to the CFExpress card. Doesn't it stand to reason then that spooling to the card is a bottleneck? And if the card were faster, the data could be spooled to it faster? And wouldn't that reduce the bottleneck? In other words, at the very least the period of time you're unable to shoot would be shorter? Or am I missing something? Gen 4 is a real thing, and it utilizes extra data lanes. Even if you think the R1 is only transferring at 518 mb/s like the R5, transferring double that amount would certainly be a big improvement for spooling the buffer to a card. All the rumors point to Sony including Gen 4 card slots in the upcoming A1 II. There is a reason for that. One other thing. Not all card readers are created equally. ProGrade Digital's reader is much faster than any others I tested. But my ProGrade card reader died, and I ordered a new one that reads Gen 4 cards. Those cards will work in any Gen 3 slot (backwards compatible). So at the very least, using Gen 4 cards in existing slots will greatly reduce the amount of time you spend uploading images from card to computer. As I type this, you've made me wonder if they neglected transfer speeds in the R5 because they knew the SD slot was going to be slow anyway. Time for a little homework.
@@scotthime6928I totally agree with you. 4.0 slots would be by far the best and very helpful. I just tried to say that I think the current slots don’t even max out the previous generations speed
I’d like a mode that alternates between the cards, even numbered shots write to slot a, odd to slot b. Could double the bandwidth and if a card were to fail you’d still have every other shot.
The incremental improvements for the R1 make it better than the R3, but really not that much better than the R5m2. Especially given the costs of ownership. However I'd suspect people who have an interest in this camera do have multiple bodies and can choose what fits the scenario. The R5m2 is tremendous once you dial in the AF for complex busy situations and as a sports shooter the flexibility between this body and an R3 can cover pretty much everything. The half press AF button seems still less desirable for switching fps, so I'm to the point where leave it on 30fps and hopefully software in the future will solve the culling.
Great review, thanks much! Question on eye tracking AF: if NOT using the viewfinder eye tracking to direct the AF, how is the camera at switching AF from one subject's eye to a different subject's eye when there are multiple birds in the view finder? Thanks! Kind regards
I bought the R5 II and i am very happy with it because i cropping every Wildlife Image. But the R1 is to expensive for a second Body that i use only for Lowlight.
Not a pro here but seems like Canon dropped the ball by not including a 45mp or higher capture res. I guess that would have worsened the buffer wall situation and probably added significantly more $ to its already eye watering MSRP. But still, flagship camera and all, no holds barred should be the theme.
@@mikede2464 We all have a theory what the likely audience is for this camera but it does become self fulfilling ... *because* it's heavy , low megapixel and super expensive ... the audience limits itself . However there IS a market for a robust , long battery life Pro camera with Higher MP ... (and obviously many were holding out expecting the R1 would be that camera ) The R5 is a lovely camera but I don't think it feels robust enough to cope with the rough and tumble of studio life and beach shoots (it well may be tough... but it doesn't feel tough) So I would feel very constrained by this delicate vibe
@badboyvr4 "complete joke"? 24MP is more than enough in almost any other situation except professional wildlife. Countless people have taken amazing shots with camera with lower MP. Some of the most amazing wildlife photographer are still using 24 (or even lower) cameras.
This evening I tested the buffer with pre-capture enabled in full RAW. With all processing turned OFF and using Prograde Cobalt 1.3TB v4.0 cards I obtained the following number of frames before the camera hit the buffer and said BUSY.
40 fps: 380 frames before the camera said BUSY
30 fps: 394 frames before the camera said BUSY
20 fps: 900+ frames and the camera never paused. I could have held the shutter down longer, but I did not see the purpose.
I will likely setup the camera to default at 20 fps and set the half-press AF-ON button to toggle to 40 fps. Overall, I am impressed. Even at 40 fps I am getting about a 10 second buffer. Note, the manual only specifies 230 frames at 40 fps, but I did much better.
Yes half press 20 and full press 40 seems ideal
You hit the nail on the head when you said it’s a luxury, well put together and reliable and feels good on the hand, the Rolex in the camera world 😊
hehe
Not really Swiss watch movements are made in China and as they're mechanical they're far less accurate than an ordinary quartz movement watch. The R1 is a masterpiece of engineering and although Canon make a good profit on it it's very expensive to make and the performance is real whereas a Rolex is just a brand name and isn't worth the ridiculously over inflated price they charge for them
@@noelchignell1048 Swiss watch movements are not made in China or they couldn't be called Swiss watch movements. Rolex watches are completely hand made and machined by Rolex in Switzerland. I can tell you know nothing of the mechanical watch industry.
@@AlistairHig you're so wrong: do some research: from Wikipedia "A movement is considered to be Swiss if:
it has been assembled in Switzerland;
the technical development is carried out in Switzerland;
it has been inspected by the manufacturer in Switzerland;
at least 60 percent of the manufacturing cost are generated in Switzerland; and
the components of Swiss manufacture account for at least 50 percent of the total value, without taking into account the cost of assembly."
As the labour costs are very low in China they add one overpriced Swiss part typically the main spring to get over the 60% ratio. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_made#:~:text=a%20watch%20if%3A-,its%20technical%20development%20is%20carried%20out%20in%20Switzerland%3B,final%20inspection%20in%20Switzerland%3B%20and
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Thanks for a very comprehensive review. I received my R1 from Canon Sydney yesterday. I also have an R3 but in the short time I have had the R1 I am surprised at how much better it is. I don't regret buying it.
Agreed. It’s a huge upgrade over the R3
You should be the first person Canon gives a production model R1, you have done a great job!
What a great camera and review! Incredible Peregrine Falcon shot Jan!
End of the month, it will be mine! 🥰
Really?
When the R1 was announced I didn't think it was much of an improvement over my R3 so I got a Fuji GFX 100 II. Three months later I traded the Fuji in on a R5 II. When I compared R3 and Fuji shots to each other when the framing was the same I really didn't notice a huge difference between 24 and 102mp. I still don't think the R1 is worth the upgrade over the R3 but I wouldn't be surprised if I get one next year.
thanks for sharing
Sounds like it would be perfect for sports where you don't need higher MPs and may not encounter buffer issues because the action is a bit more predictable. Having used a high MP camera for wildlife, I don't think I could go back now, just because the ability to crop so much means you don't need the big heavy lenses.
Awesome video Jan, your review has swayed my mind on the R1 for the better
It looks like beauty that R1 but I think my 1 series days are over I'm looking to reduce what I carry (getting old). Honestly even when I used 1 series I would occasionally leave it at home for a smaller body. The 24MP is great for sports but as you say a little less desirable when cropping. I think I could live with the 24MP. Now the main reason I'm going to avoid it is the price even grey it's too much for my hobby. Grey HK import A9III is looking good price these days GBP £3,799.00. UK R1 is $9,073.36 US Dollar. £6,999.00 from the UK dealers. Still think the best compromise is the Nikon Z8 as the Nikon lenses appeal to me more. Although if I was doing this professionally I likely might have consider the R1. Awesome review.
Always enjoy your videos Jan! Great work 🎉
Great to hear, thanks :)
Awesome video Jan , even though I moved to Z8 . Love your work! Thanks
Thank you!
the R1 is basically what I expected.. an amazing body like the 1DX, great quality of life with all the buttons, the 2 same card slots and all.. great AF, the massive batteries I LOVE..
But at the end of the day it's very expensive for what it offers.. here in Noway we don't have large cockatoos that can fill up the frame and going back to 20ish MP is such a downer..
When it was the best available on the 1DXII it was fine, but going back down after the R5 just feels like I'm downgrading while paying double the price.
Obviously Canon will never offer a pro body with the R5 models but one can only dream
Love your content Jan, those photos and videos are amazing
I agree with you 1000%, Canon has said that they'll keep the R3 ( I love my R3) alive even after the release of the R1. We can only hope and pray that the R3 MKII will be the high resolution pro body camera we've all been waiting for.
The pro is the photographer, not the body they shoot with.
@@alansach8437 yeah yeah, until you take your camera in the snow or in the rain forest or a dune desert and your gear fail on you in middle of it.
Yes you can take fantastic photos with a 400 bucks camera and a kit lens, but there are reasons why the pro gear costs thousands more.
I took some amazing photos with a 2x and 100-400, that doesn't mean I don't want a 600 to make my life so much easier, getting more light in, lower iso, miss less shots etc.
@@eyecibus yeah use feeders and fake branches like everyone else right?
talk about lazy
Another excellent, thorough and informative video thanks mate!
Glad you liked it!
3:25 - Do you really need a global shutter? No Z9, A1, or R3 owners have complained about rolling shutter issues. Although I hate the prices of Canon, their AF is something award worthy.
Global shutter can be useful in eliminating banding in complex indoor lighting. However, for my use I don't have a need for a global shutter. My guess is that the R1 Mk2 will have Canon's first global shutter.
@@JohnSwen-p6b Curious what Nikon will do with the acquired RED company that also has global shutter cameras. It's all Nikon's now. The Z9 II will be epic. Sadly the R1 and A1 II were minor updates of already good cameras.
Another great video! We all know how difficult it is to create this kind of content, especially for an independent, non-sponsored channel reviewing a flagship camera. Your footage and photos of the R1 are incredible, and I'm loving them!
I know some might think it's silly to pay $6,300 for a camera with 'only' 24MP (and it's the lowest resolution of any kind of camera) when my 5D Mark III from 12 years ago had similar resolution. But it’s really about performance. I saw the small blue box tracking the eye, and I already know my R5 would struggle with that.
I’m torn between AF and resolution-what’s more important? It feels a bit embarrassing to ask this about a flagship camera, but my R5’s AF is not fast enough to follow the action in below two scenarios; it’s out of its ability somewhere. I’ve missed so many shots of a striated heron striking into the water for fish; the before and after shots are razor sharp, but that critical moment is often blurred. The same goes for sea eagles catching fish with their claws. Before and after the strike are sharp, but that split second of contact is blurry, especially when I can’t get a very low angle to isolate the eagle from the background. R5 does focus on water or is distracted by water. those frustrating moments, I’ve felt like throwing my R5!
It’s hard to ignore that Canon’s sensor technology feels 4 years behind Sony, especially considering the Sony A1 has 50MP at 30fps. And when it comes to buffer technology, Canon seems to lag significantly-50MP at 30fps is far faster than 24MP at 40fps. Need not to say the next level A9 III, not only carrying global shutter with the same resolution 24MP, but also running 3x speed, 120fps. Your video has me seriously considering the R1 for those action shots, while keeping the R5 for smaller birds. Thanks for sharing your insights, even if they’re a bit painful! Canon, you really need to catch up with Sony and Nikon; our patience is wearing thin.
@10:40 - The R1 may be the first full-frame camera to have all-cross type AF sensors, but the OM1 has had all-cross type AF sensors for a a couple years.
Hi Jan! Have really enjoyed your recent videos about the new Canons... Any chance you could do a setup guide for the R1? The R5ii is similar, but there are some differences regarding AF setup that would be great to gain some clarity on! Thanks!
Excellent review Jan. Well done.
Thanks for watching!
Jan is the best! Thank you, Jan.
Much appreciated
we need more R1 content.. also bird photo tips, but right now people need more R1 videoes :D hehe thank you for making some
The video clips from the R1 in this video looks like soemthing from a BBC nature documentary.. its wild.
Talk about buffer.... i still remember D3 with 17 pics in the buffer and shooting 9 fps :-)))
Jan great R1 review for bird photography! You covered both your likes and dislikes - very balanced review. Maybe Canon can fix some of your dislikes (such as buffer issues ) w a firmware update. Just like the way you present information in your LR / PS classes - clear, precise, useful info, right to the point.
Great to hear! :) I'm pretty sure the buffer is what it is
Big beautiful EVF!! I got that impression when I used rented R5 and then R3 when my daily driver is the R7! Makes such a difference
compared to those it's like going from a phone to an IMAX screen!
@ 😂
The R1 does look like an amazing camera for wildlife but I am already well into the Nikon Z system and they are just absolutely spoiling me with lenses. Going to Canon just now (while giving access to the 100-300 and 100-500) is mostly compromises. I would have to give up the 400 f/4.5, 600 PF, and 800 PF which Canon has no equivalents for just now. And then I would have to give up my 600 f/4.0 TC for an older design lens that doesn't have a built in TC. And the R1 just isn't far enough ahead of the Z9, and surely we'll see a Z9ii and Z9iii and Z9iv that'll all have pro's and con's vs their generations R1.
I agree, the R1 is an amazing camera in and itself but wild life photographers have tasted the high megapixel fruits of the flagships of other brands like the A1 and Z8/9. The ability to crop with little loss in quality is something a lot of them are not willing to give up. Canon missed the boat on this segment of the market.
24 vs 45MP isn’t the issue for me. It’s Canon (and Sony’s if we include them) lens lineup. Canon needs a stronger lens lineup. Sony needs a stronger lens lineup and a big body that can hand the elements with an integrated grip.
We can agree that the 600 and 800 PF are great as the enthusiast "I don't have 14,000$ but want nice quality" lenses, although, the 600 has the same aperture as any 200-600, and sharpness improvement, if it exist, isn't really noticable, aside from 300% zoom on Lightroom. I just don't get this lens. The other brings at least 2/3, 1 stop of aperture.
Nikon's body are really not great today, they are lacking performance wise and make stupid choices (no bird autofocus and raw pre-capture on the Z6III ??), but gotta admit, that 600 f4 with built-in TC is a dream.
I went with the Canon R6II because of the lenses. Because other than wildlife, Canon is killing everyone, that 24-105 f2.8 with parfocal is just insane and unique, as well as the 200-800 for wildlife (no one has that reach in the budget category). Their autofocus is way better (although not on the R6II but eh).
Unfortunately I hate their body design. I wish they had red menu for astro. In fact, I want a Nikon software, in a Nikon shell, with Nikon wildlife lenses, Canon "regular" lenses, and Canon's sensors.
@@KofieBluejay the 600 PF is a lot lighter in your hand than the 180-600 and 200-600. It is also a lot sharper and brighter (t-stop). The Z6III does have bird detection, it is built into the animal AF mode. The bird AF in the Z8 and Z9 is a special mode above this that is specifically for the stacked sensors. What the Z6III is what the Z8 and Z9 started with. The stacked sensor optimised bird mode is faster and more sticky, but it doesn't necessarily recognise more unique subjects.
@@codebunnies with the modern noise reduction software and a bit of sharpening (cuz the sharpness difference isn't that big), I really can't justify a prime compared to the usefulness of a zoom. Despite what PF apologists would have me believe, not all animal action is suited for a 600mm focal length and a "reach around" 2nd or 3rd body "just in case I need that 200 or 400". matter of fact, even if someone gave me those primes for free, f4 15000$ and all, I'd give that up in an instant for a 100-500 or 200-800, or 180-600, "dark aperture" really being a non-issue these days. and we edit the images anyway, so a step of noise-reduction during a batch processing session is just a box that has to be ticked and no-one has to bother themselves with switching between copious primes to get "the shot", or simply be constrained by a single prime if someone is on the budget (or doesn't want to carry more than one prime) and not get anything aside from a particular set of images due to being able to only shoot at one focal length
300 f2.8 is a great focal length/aperture combo, Sony's version - even more so, but in the world of Canon's 100-300 f2.8 - I'd be hard pressed to switch to Sony, even if canon's offering is more expensive. As for that price - the image quality of that zoom is on par with the primes, and ITS A ZOOM. So theres that
Same on the Nikon's side - seems pretty redundant with the 600PF when I can have a great zoom with a close enough sharpness, and ITS A ZOOM.
These days, canon and Nikon make zooms that make primes almost/fully obsolete, so yeah, thats my two cents, respectfully
Great review! The R1 is way too much camera for me, but I can definitely see why some photographers will love this camera. I think there is one in your future, Jan. 😉
I'm afraid so, haha!
Fantastic video! I noticed that sometimes you’re wearing glasses and other times you’re not. I’m wondering if this effects the Eye Control AF for you.
It would. Have to calibrate it with both
Hey Jan! Your video quality is absolutely stunning - I’m really curious, what camera and lens setup you used for this specific video, and I don’t mean the R1 btw. It would be awesome to know more about your gear and any tips you have for getting this kind of quality. Thanks for always inspiring us with your content!
Studio R3 and 24-105
Outside R5 II and 24-105
Great review a big thanks for all the effort. R1 is on my shopping list to replace my old 1DxMk2. Im almost never pixel limited so 24MP is fine by me and ive had wall size prints made from the 1DX so the 24MP is fine for my uses. Very glad to hear of the great high ISO and DR very much looking forward to doing some hi ISO night stuff. Thanks again.
And now I'll speak for us lowly zoo and aquarium shooters. Most of us will never see a safari so zoos, well respected with well cared for animals are a perfect option. Because there's not much of a need to crop since you already so close this camera could be a wonder at zoos with great DR for aquariums. Even better than the R5mk2. Thoughts on that angle Jan?
It would do a great job for sure
waiting for it to be delivered :)
It would be really helpful if you did a comprehensive setup video for the R1.
Thanks for such a thorough and early review. Really nice to hear your findings prior to the R1 shipping on a mass level. Lots of competition is coming around the corner. which keeps driving improvements albeit many are subtle or incremental. Getting your opinion is most helpful as I'm torn between an A1 II and the R1 -- having the larger megapixels is very enticing. Your video is certainly helpful for me to make an ultimate decision in due time. Keep them coming please and thanks again for an early post.
If the rumours are true, we will know soon which one you may prefer ;)
Very informative and thorough video! Just wanted to know how you would compare EOS R1 and Sony A9iii assuming you were using both of their native 600mm F4 prime lenses? Cheers
Both very good and very different. A9 III easily wins for capturing special moments at 120 fps and the R1 easily wins for IQ
@ Thanks for your response! A9iii easily wins for capturing special moments because of its superior AF tracking capabilities or much faster frame rate?
@@stevenlui8105120fps vs 40. So you get a lot more chances. In terms of AF they’re quite close for action, but R1 has better subject recognition in bushes etc
Bird work looks easy until tried. Then you see how good Jan really is. Please do a buffer check raw at 30 fps. My hand calculations estimate 10. Seconds. Best Regards
Sheesh i hope you are selling your footage on Stock Video platforms! These shots are amazing
Thanks 😀 Not at the moment.
First of all, thank you for your videos, Mr. Wegener. Regarding the R1, you use very good lenses. With lenses that have smaller apertures like the RF 100-500, which require working with higher ISOs, do you think the R5 Mark II would have a significant advantage in detail over the R1? Thank you.
All depends how close you get to the subject. The lorikeet and lyrebird in the video are with the 100-500
Great and informative video, with some amazing photos and videos as always, Jan. Looks like an amazing camera, for sure.
Wishing you and yours a great week.
Cheers, Bjoern
Thanks mate
Excellent video as usual, Jan. I'm not in the market for the R1 due to the Mp count, but it is great to see some of the new features and tech at play. I do wish that they had given us a 2-stage AF-ON with the R5II or at least an extra programmable button or two. Maybe the R5II well get the trickle down. Thanks for doing this!
Thanks for another great video. This is now my 2nd time watching it. As a wildlife stills photographer, I was hoping to see some examples in your video of some cropped images, as we all have to crop way too oftens because, you know, those birds just don't want to obey when you ask them to come closer.. While I loved my R3, the focusing issues on birds in flight was just not good. The R5II has solved that issue, but the DR leaves a bit to be desired and I find the graininess of cropped issues to be much higher than I'm used to. I'm toying with selling my R5II and moving to the R1, but don't want to be disappointed by another camera that's not QUITE what I want. Thanks, again!
The Rose Robin image in the video is cropped to about 3500 px on the long side. You can get away with it, but it's not like the R5 II, but as you say, when you need high ISO the R5 II kinda starts to fall apart a bit.
Thank you Jan for this interesting video. The R1 sounds a nearly perfect camera.
It felt that way
I will buy it to compare with my Nikon z9 as i have previous versions of Canon 1dx mark iii and Nikon D6
Great video. Waiting for the video on your new camera bag.
Very nice review! I miss the heft and ruggedness of the 1DX I used to use, but cannot go back to less than 45MP. So I, too, would like to see an R1 or R3 body with an improved R5-like sensor. Having said that, I would appreciate the lower noise due to the larger pixels. What do you recommend these days for noise reduction software for the R5 MkII? I got tired of paying so much for each new version of either DXO or Topaz that I've been using Lightroom's Enhance Denoise. It usually does a very good job but there are cases where I would appreciate a little better performance.
R1 with the 100-500 makes for a neat little kit
heavy but great!
@@jan_wegenerheavy? A 6 year old could carry that combo.
Great video Jan! Lovely to watch.
Thank you!
Great video Jan! R1 Looks like a nice kit! Love the eagles!😉
They were a lot of fun to shoot!
You captured them well!
Hi Jan, your Insta-teasers made me look forward to this review, and both you and the R1 lived up to the hype 😛
I also strongly enjoyed the awesome birds of prey (and their babies) in this video !!
Looks like the R5ii is aiming to be master of everything, but the R1 is the master of the R5ii .. at least as long as the R1 attracts the birds close enough to stop you from cursing the 24mp. You didn't compare it with the a9iii, but it looks like the IQ makes up for "only" getting 1/3 of the fps with such a fast sensor why bother taking compromises with for global shutter ..
So I guess you'll next get the R1 instead of a third R5ii, right ?
That's a good way to put it!
This camera dramatically beats the A9 III in IQ. Yes, I don't want 3 R5 II, so this would be good or R6 III, but not sure I can resist the R1 haha
@@jan_wegener heheh, the same way you made me unable to resist the R5ii, you made yourself unable to resist the R1 😛 The R6iii and R7ii will be good (and in your truck) as well, but they'll never beat the R1 of course
R1 got a lot of hate when it was announced with the R5ii but it’s really the standout of the two.
The question of quality and usability is always a pivotal point. After starting using Fuji 100 II all the other pictures seem to me low quality and low resolution. All the viewfinders are small and dull too. But it can’t take pictures of moving objects at all! 24 MP after all is showing up as a thumbnail though. So R5 series is still the best choice between worlds of quality and speed.
Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jan! My thoughts? I heard with much delight that you had really impressing video AF experience with the R1. I get more and more interested in this camera instead of the R5 II. Thanks a lot for this content! Kind regards, Ralf
I'd like if they could include a feature where you could assign a button that prevents back focusing. For situations where a subject is moving towards you, you'd hold down a button that limits the AF to only adjusting closer and disables it from hunting further from the point you press the button. But I think it would have to work with shutter button focusing, not back button focusing, otherwise you'd need to use 3 buttons simultaneously.
You can turn off "Focus search when AF Impossible" that should stop the camera to go on BG
Terrific review. Thanks!
Have you sold your RF 200-800mm or used less than before?
I still have it, and I use it from time to time, especially when I walk around
Jan will you be creating a settings video?
Not sure, should I?
So I’m fairly new at wildlife photography, so this might be a silly question. Why would Canon use a 24MP sensor in the flagship camera? Cost? Performance? Better low light performance? Better buffer? What am I missing? This is too expensive for me, but I’m just left wondering.
Different philosophies and target markets. And possibly limitations in sensor tech where a great quality 24 MP makes the most sense
More so, in canon's case, is that the one line whether the 1dx or r1 series has always been targeted as pro sports and press photography camera where autofocus and speed of file transmission are paramount to their success. 24mp is most suitable for these uses cases as it provides enough resolution and DR without file sizes being too large. This allows photographers to get their files to their offsite editors for quick turnarounds and getting the pictures to the client to be posted first.
Very nice video, thanks! I was also not expecting it, but the R1 became my favourite camera after just a week of using it
It grows quickly on you!
😂😂😂😂
Can you please explain your method of setting up two autofocus buttons. Which buttons are you using?
star and AF on buttons. I have made many set up videos about it
Jan, can you do a high ISO test in video (not photos)? Early tests indicated the camera may clean up substantially at ISO 12,800. I wonder about 3200 and 6400 as well.
Jan, do you think you can do a video where you compare the R5ii and the R1? I see the R5ii as the master of all, due to the speed, af, and high mp sensor. One thing I’m particularly interested in is how much better is the R1’s AF over the R5ii.. Cross type AF is the difference but when compared side by side, is it that much of a difference? I def think the R1 is an excellent body but I think the R5ii has it beat in some areas, but welcome your thoughts!
The R3 is already way too good for wildlife, sport etc. it's really diminishing returns at this point. 30 fps vs 40 is a perfect example of that..
The low light performance looks amazing. I use DXO pureRAW and, once they get support for the R1, the resulting high iso images should look great. 👍🏻
Nice review Jan! I have the R5-2, is there a similar way tyo set up the speed boost for this camera too?
You don't have a two stage AF On Button in the R5II sadly, but of course you can also set up a speed toggle and assign it to another button. I have my DOF Preview Button (the one on the front at the Lens Mount) set for 30fps mode for example, so I usually stay at 15 fps and when I hold down the DOF Preview button, the camera speeds up.
no, you can set up a button on the R5 II for speed post, but not within the same button
@@Toamserippa Thank you!
How much does the panning assist feature drop the frame rate? On R3 the slowing is substantial. This might be a trick question.
Thanks Jan, another great review. The Peregrine Falcon shots are awesome🙌. Although it's "only" a pre-production model, the fact that Canon are so far behind Nikon & Sony at the pointy end of cameras is disappointing and the issue with the buffer is very surprising. Hopefully the retail model has more processing memory. Otherwise, what a ripper.
What area is it behind? MP?
@@jan_wegener Release date. Both Nikon & Sony released their high end cameras months and months ago and Canon is still playing catch up. As a Canon user I find it a bit disappointing. I think they have stretched themselves to far with such a diverse line up and in retrospect I think they should of released the R1earlier and not concentrated so much, if at all on the R3.
@@georgerussell8948would we have liked more? Of course? Is it possible? Not sure… overall the R1 is easily Canons best camera
I don’t know if Canon was capable of making the R1 sensor when the R3 came out
Nice images and a comprehensive review, but not every photographer has similar needs. Although birding gives me tremendous joy, I am confined to a wheelchair, so I can't 'zoom with my feet'. As a result, I often need to crop with small birds, more than the average wildlife photographer. As you mention, one's ability to crop is "severely limited" at 24 MP. I therefore worry that 24 MP won't work for the amount of crop I need. That said, I hope that some of this tech. makes its way into the R7ii. A faster sensor and higher resolution EVF would be enough to make me upgrade from my R7/ RF 100-500, which is an awesome birding set-up.
Hi Jan can you use crop mode in 4k 120 P video with the R1 ? With my R5ii it changes to 4k 60P if i use crop mode. On my R3 it lets me use crop mode in 4k 120p I am hoping the R1 does too. Great video and I look forward to your answer . Thank you !!
Never tried, I’ll have a look
@@jan_wegener Thank you appreciate it !!
The Evf resolution seems to be on par with my Sony. 9 million dots on the little screen is amazing. I just can’t get past the file sizes! That’s a deal breaker for me. My A1 shooting 30fps at 50mp is still dreamy. The thing I find most alluring (besides pre capture) is Nikons built in TCs on the lens. When Sony announces the A1ii next week hopefully I will have a choice to make! Get it or switch to Nikon for those lenses.
The sony evf refresh rate drops when u start shooting...
Yes, same resolution, but quite a different look and feel
Great review Jan, thanks. Starting with which ISO value do you believe the R1 outperforms the R5 Mark II, even with a much lower megapixel count?
I feel like the difference at high ISOs feel like 2 stops at least, but I have not done a lot side by side with resizing etc. The main thing I can say is that the R1 has significantly more DR when using higher ISO
Great video Jan, awesome images. Just wondering. Are you able to feed back to Canon about some of the issues you found - such as the buffer? If it’s a pre-production model you were using maybe it’s something Canon may address before it goes on sale. Or maybe it’s too late and it’s not possible. But I agree with you, for the togs it’s aimed at, buffer should be “better”.
I'm sure it's too late to address things like the buffer. It seems like that hard stop is Canon wide issue and maybe more deeper rated than we think and not easy to change. Although it should be easy to give us a bigger sized buffer
Grerat review. Very much appreciated!
Have you done a video on rf 100-300? or have a reason you havent?
I’ll make one
Thanks for the review. I have a feeling the new Sony Alpha 1mkii will blow this camera out of the water in every way. I'll be looking forward to seeing if I'm proved right before I drop any money on the R1.
Thanks Jan. Great review. I think I'll avoid trying the R1 because I think it's overkill for my needs and I'd prefer not to know how good the EVF is. I would happily have paid more for an R5 with that viewfinder but that's just not how it works in Canon land. I expect the target audience for the R1 will be pleased. Yes, there are situations where a higher MP camera is helpful but no single camera can do everything and high MP cameras come with their own set of compromises. The R1 and R52 would seem to be a fairly capable pair of cameras capable of handling any task I could imagine.
Yes that would cover most bases
How many beautiful features with just 24 mp
Great video Jan😍
Thanks!
Thanks Jan, will you be doing a R5ii vs R1 comparison for wildlife soon?
I think so
@@jan_wegener also, I'm coming from an R5 to an R5m2 on my RF 600mm and I noticed a substantial af performance speed increase with the RF 600 motor, I know the 600mm has two motors and the R3 was utilizing it but do you know if the R5m2 is nows using the 2 motors and how does it compare to using it with the R1? I see quite a speed jump in the AF with my R5m2, thx
@@Mark-i4h7ryes it’s much faster, but I don’t believe r5 ii uses both
Great job jan,but us small birders are waiting for the r7 mk2,come on canon.
That will be a big camera for sure
I reckon Jan had they used about a 36mp sensor they could have kept the speed quite high & had just enough megawatts to tempt buyers.
Canon has not shown us that they can produce a sensor with such high MP and a fast < 4 sec readout and very high DR. So it makes sense to stick to the 24 and max that out, which they did very well.
The only such sensor we can currently find in the A1. Even Z8/9 are fast, but lack DR
Die R1 ist sicherlich eine Traumkamera. Die 24mp stören mich nicht - ich komme auch mit meiner R3 hervorragend zurecht. Der große Sucher ist sicherlich noch einmal wohltuend - aber meine R3 ist wie ein guter Freund und ich verzichte erst einmal auf die 40/s - 30/s erlauben mit auch adlerartige Bilder von anfliegenden Blaumeisen - ich denke der Sprung von 20 auf 30/s ist diesbezüglich der entscheidende Schritt gewesen - ich ziehe da den Vergleich mit meiner R5 heran. Und ja, der AF-on Button ist ein wesentlicher Grund warum ich die R3 weiterhin meiner R5 vorziehe. Die Arbeitsweise liegt mir sehr. Danke für deine Videos… mit aller Hochachtung …
같은 R1 유저로서 감동입니다!
What a great review. I regret that I got the R5ii for video and seriously consider to get the R1 because of lowlight and 4k50p oversampled. Because the R1 has a viewfinder I would prefer it even over the C80 - even it has ND filters. What do you recommend?
It sure is tempting
Dear Jan, excellent Review - however I noticed a lot of luminance noise in the dark areas of the video takes. Just curious with which camera you shot the frames? Kind regards, Simon
of me talking or Broll? I should've done a bit more NR.
Broll was R5 II, which is noticeably more noisy and me was R3
@@jan_wegener I think it was the BRoll. I am sorry to mention that - it's just noticable within the shadows...but when you talk about the sensor - and the sensor is in the shade within the mount - I couldn't help, but notice.
But thank you so much for those amazing shots and wildlife tutorials of yours. I have to come around learning your techniques when it comes to editing! Chapeau
@@wuidzeit_simonno it’s exactly my observation as well. I have been using the R5 II instead of the R3, because the AF is significantly better, but the noise in dark areas is quite bad and 3200 already
Was some of that shot in Sherbrooke Forrest Jan?
Yes
Waiting for R1C or R1X :)
Thanks for this! Absolutely looking forward to getting my R1.
The new AF on button half press now has me excited! The IBIS enhancements look great. Of course we expected: AF improvements, super-clean IQ and pre-capture benefits, but those other quality-of-life updates add up too. Buffer definitely should be unlimited with this level of camera though. (I will say that was one thing I never had to worry about on the 1DX3.) Dual CFX. Full HDMI. Simplified UI + settings. CLOG2. R3 carryover features like 6K oversampling + 6K60 RAW. I can’t understand why this camera got a lukewarm reception. Maybe because it can’t make waffles too? 🧇😜
I was quite lukewarm about it, too. I feel like they should've focused more on those cool improvements. The marketing almost felt like here's another R3 when there is some major differences between the two. That AF-On button alone is incredible
Thinking about the R5II for portraits ¿Is it Canon still with the stupid way to set the white balance? ¿Or can you just focus, take the image and the WB is set like any other brand?
Better to buy an R6ii for portraits and buy a better lens like the RF 135mm f/1.8 or RF 85mm f/1.2 or maybe the RF 28-70mm f/2 , white balance can be set in many different ways on these cameras
Thanks a lot! 👍I am using the R5, wondering if it is worth to go for R5ii, than I read about its picture noice (at low light). My favorit is fast wildlife (birds, bats and insects in flight). Now what shall I do? 🤔 R1 (low reselution) or Sony a9iii (changing gear) ? Or stay at R5 using video (instead of photo shooting) at 4k with 120fps .....?
I drove 3 hours (each way) on Saturday to get my hands on an R1 that a good friend was sent. The ergonomics are fantasic, and I love the body. But... I've been yelling for a good year now that they MUST put Gen 4 card slots into this camera. They didn't. For me, that's a serious mistake for what is arguably the ultimate fast-shooting camera on the market. If it had Gen 4 slots, and could spool the buffer twice as fast, it would make the buffer shortcoming a lot less crippling. I regret that I didn't get to experience was whether the AF has better low-light performance, which is another one of the improvements I really wanted to see.
I know that people are super excited about precapture, and it definitely has some benefit. But what I saw was exactly what I expected. When a bird suddenly moved, the precapture retained those images, but the birds are quickly at the edge of the frame, with a lot of clipped wings. You have to be moving the barrel along with the bird to prevent that, and if you knew enough to be moving the camera you probably wouldn't need the precapture. What you can't get around is that it changes the composition, which means you will probably want to crop... and that's when the 24mp becomes an issue.
I loved the camera, just like I loved the R3 when it came out. But I REALLY wish it had Gen 4 slots, and 45mp like the R5 ii.
Thanks for sharing! It doesn’t even need gen 4 slots. I don’t think it even fully uses the speed of the other cards. The old R5 for instance only wrote at 518mb/s
@@jan_wegener Okay, I don't like to fill up comment sections, but I am confused. You talked about the issue with the buffer filling, and not being unable to take photos until it clears. I experienced the exact same thing. The way I understand it, the internal buffer fills and then that data has to spool to the CFExpress card. Doesn't it stand to reason then that spooling to the card is a bottleneck? And if the card were faster, the data could be spooled to it faster? And wouldn't that reduce the bottleneck? In other words, at the very least the period of time you're unable to shoot would be shorter? Or am I missing something?
Gen 4 is a real thing, and it utilizes extra data lanes. Even if you think the R1 is only transferring at 518 mb/s like the R5, transferring double that amount would certainly be a big improvement for spooling the buffer to a card. All the rumors point to Sony including Gen 4 card slots in the upcoming A1 II. There is a reason for that.
One other thing. Not all card readers are created equally. ProGrade Digital's reader is much faster than any others I tested. But my ProGrade card reader died, and I ordered a new one that reads Gen 4 cards. Those cards will work in any Gen 3 slot (backwards compatible). So at the very least, using Gen 4 cards in existing slots will greatly reduce the amount of time you spend uploading images from card to computer. As I type this, you've made me wonder if they neglected transfer speeds in the R5 because they knew the SD slot was going to be slow anyway. Time for a little homework.
@@scotthime6928I totally agree with you. 4.0 slots would be by far the best and very helpful. I just tried to say that I think the current slots don’t even max out the previous generations speed
I’d like a mode that alternates between the cards, even numbered shots write to slot a, odd to slot b. Could double the bandwidth and if a card were to fail you’d still have every other shot.
It's so rough. I really want the 600mm with build in teleconverter from Nikon, but this camera seems so much more like my style.
Great camera but out of my reach.Will stick to my R5. Good job Jan !
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Great summary of the camera Jan! 👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
Thanks Jan, superb review…
My pleasure!
The incremental improvements for the R1 make it better than the R3, but really not that much better than the R5m2. Especially given the costs of ownership. However I'd suspect people who have an interest in this camera do have multiple bodies and can choose what fits the scenario. The R5m2 is tremendous once you dial in the AF for complex busy situations and as a sports shooter the flexibility between this body and an R3 can cover pretty much everything. The half press AF button seems still less desirable for switching fps, so I'm to the point where leave it on 30fps and hopefully software in the future will solve the culling.
A9iii vs r1 autofocus? Which one will u choose?
Great review, thanks much! Question on eye tracking AF: if NOT using the viewfinder eye tracking to direct the AF, how is the camera at switching AF from one subject's eye to a different subject's eye when there are multiple birds in the view finder? Thanks! Kind regards
You're just turning off the visual pointer, it still tracks your eyes to focus where you look
What a great peace of gear.
I bought the R5 II and i am very happy with it because i cropping every Wildlife Image. But the R1 is to expensive for a second Body that i use only for Lowlight.
as I said, for most it's an extreme luxury
Not a pro here but seems like Canon dropped the ball by not including a 45mp or higher capture res. I guess that would have worsened the buffer wall situation and probably added significantly more $ to its already eye watering MSRP. But still, flagship camera and all, no holds barred should be the theme.
I agree, 24MP is a complete joke in 2024!
I don't think higher MP are needed or desired by the target audience of this camera.
@@mikede2464 We all have a theory what the likely audience is for this camera but it does become self fulfilling ... *because* it's heavy , low megapixel and super expensive ... the audience limits itself . However there IS a market for a robust , long battery life Pro camera with Higher MP ... (and obviously many were holding out expecting the R1 would be that camera ) The R5 is a lovely camera but I don't think it feels robust enough to cope with the rough and tumble of studio life and beach shoots (it well may be tough... but it doesn't feel tough) So I would feel very constrained by this delicate vibe
@badboyvr4 "complete joke"? 24MP is more than enough in almost any other situation except professional wildlife. Countless people have taken amazing shots with camera with lower MP. Some of the most amazing wildlife photographer are still using 24 (or even lower) cameras.
@@arbee1958 what I meant by target audience is the customer base that Cannon says this camera is intended for.
OM System OM-1 and OM-1 II have also cross point AF points. Of cour😢se that is a different league, also price wise.