Ive been watch kai for so long that 51 autofocus points and 12fps was unbelievably impressive l, crazy the rate of progression on tech and how quickly we all get used to it
Canon feeling really brave selling a 600 dollar built in fan battery grip without any dedicated shutter button 💀 Kinda speaks for Canon's pricing point as a whole, which is of course unsurprising.
im not a hundred percent sure on what im about to say but i bet they couldnt fit all the boards in there.. as for the price.. price is set for what the market will bear...
@@classic.cameras the r3s hell yeah... i was lookin at the r5s back in the day.. but this one has sports mode ai tracking... can i get a range finder on this bitch?
@@classic.camerasHow could that be if what they released three years later is so inferior (some are saying)? Wouldn't they use those three years to really blow your socks off? Fact is that they released the R3 one year after they released the flagship 1dxiii. There is no way they were going to release another flagship that fast. Canon always releases their flagship in the year of the Olympics. The 1dxiii was released in 2020, and though the Olympics were canceled due to Covid, it WAS the year of the Olympics. I KNEW, and have been telling anyone who would listen, that the next flagship would be released in 2024! Here we are! Oh, and it's an awesome camera well worthy of the flagship title! It may not be your cup of tea, but it's a dream camera for working sports and photojournalism pros!
For real estate and architectural photography stills the 5D Mark IV is still just as good as the new R5 Mark II despite Mark IV being 8 years old. I guess I'll see what they do with the R5 Mark III.....
@@Davitor1 They already said they have a focus on real estate and architectural photography. Neither of which have eyes so I don't think an advanced autofocus system would be worth the 4k + investment in upgrading. So that 5D is gonna be going strong for a while.
It sometimes feels like we're losing our way a little bit, as the focus is so much on higher res/fps video... These bodies are getting pretty big now for added cooling, and here we have a BIG ugly grip with a fan for video purposes. For a stills shooter like myself (not hardcore sports and wildlife), these new cameras are just so overly complicated and it feels like we're paying for hybrid features we don't need or want... And so older models become super attractive at a discount. My main camera is still a Sony A7R III(A) because I'm just not even slightly tempted to 'upgrade', paying a ton of money for features I won't use, with absolutely no improvement in IQ. I know I'm whining but whatever... I'd just love a stills-focused high-end model with the latest AF but far less emphasis on video.
The thing is you don't need a new camera all the time. Video is where a lot of money is at right now and social media prioritizes video so that is why cameras are that way but if a person is fine with a 5dmark ii or something then he can just stick what that until they need something else. People need to understand this.
Dude you're spot on. I've been shooting some film and a Canon 5D Mark II lately. The Mark II is still so solid and nostalgic for me. Great photos still and i'm not sorting through 10,000 pictures of my kid playing every night :)
R5 doesn't look big and series 1 have always been big and tacky. I get what you say but imagine a world where the r5mkii didn't have impressive video features, it'd be dead in the water vs competitors, truth be told most professionals now need to offer photo AND video, so unless they make another R version we probably will keep seeing this trend.
@@RayValdezPhotography I'd still like a better sensor with stabilization, pixel shift, dr, iso, resolution, maybe stuff like the eye tracking for focus, updated memory card speed and connectors, etc. Tons of things that aren't video.
The R5 Mk II looks like an amazing camera. The only niggles are the LCD articulation being a bit basic (why can't they do a fancy Sony/Nikon style tilt AND flip mechanism?) and the price. In a couple of years, when used ones start to appear, and price drops begin, this will be a very tempting bit of kit.
Nice vid. Two cameras for different applications. The R1 is for pro sports shooters getting paid to get the shot. The R5 is for Birding and Events where the detail matters! Weddings where the Brides dress, ring, hair, and cake need to look amazing. Models all applies with emphasis on clothes. Speed is not and issue and you usually have control over lighting. Being able to blow them up and pleasing skin tones are a must.
@@christophersautter6532 Totally. I had the 1DIII and 5DIV and then got the R a few years ago and the AF accuracy on my lenses, especially my Sigma Art lenses, improved by about 100%. The R6 II is even better.
The blackout free shooting probably makes a difference if you turn off image preview. At least on my R5 having image preview turned on, the camera tries to show the last taken image for 2 seconds or whatever it's set to instead of showing live view in between the shots. In continuous It's basically like looking at a stop motion movie, completely horrible to shoot like that. By turning off image preview I get a much smoother and nicer experience but with blackout. Also the 40 fps limit is probably because RF lenses have their aperture designed to work up to 40 fps. So you can shoot 40 fps on f/16 if you like to. Other companies often have caveats like that you have to shoot wide open. Sonys newer lenses work up to 30 fps and the older one only up to 15 fps as example. Great video as usual, keep up the good work bros!
Kai and Lock with a cannon it is like the good old days we all miss the DRTV shows however does everyone know the DRTV videos are back up? time to binge watch them again! In fact it is their fault I keep buying camera equipment especially those from a simpler time ,sure I like technologay as much as the next person but who can afford these especially when the simple and entertaining guides from DR time was useful my go to for buying used camera gear even now.who needs that 900000 stops of dynamic range 6000000 frames a second and 28 K video time to go back to basics the whole reason we love photography and the joy it brings .
They are way behind in process nodes on their sensors, so they overheat far easier than Sony sensors. I remember back when the Samsung NX1 came out, Samsung was using a 32nm process, and Canon was using a 300nm process (I forget what Sony was using, but it was far behind Samsung as well.) I wouldn't be surprised if they have not moved very far beyond that 300nm process even to this day.
Kinda agree.. I think they should've gone up slightly on megapixels (slightly) like 30 mp, a stacked sensor, and then try to have global shutter to compete with Sony
@@WillSheltonXx At least a 45 mp sensor. Canon likely got caught off by surprised when sony released a global shutter sensor. The R1 is in the same situation as the 1DX Mark iii. Canon invested way too much money in it that they decided to release it anyways to try to recoup some revenues from it. Im sure Canon will bump up the mega pixels in the future R1 mark ii which will be 3 years later.
@@ryanvacation7319 Sony is still ahead of Canon right now. And from the specs of the A1-ii, Im not too impress with it. It will likely hit 40 or 50 fps this time around but for sure the new body will be a huge game changer for A1 users. The A.i. autofocus will help as well on selecting subjects to focus on. If the A1-ii has a Global Shutter sensor, that will be a huge game changer for sure. But i do think Sony is still developing their Global Shutter so they are just waiting for the perfect GS to put in their A1. Besides that, all 3 camera brands are very good today now. Its just up to personal preferences for sure but Sony is still ahead of the game.
@@christophercarlimages9003wow. Everything about the canon seems impressive with the AF. I’m a Z9 shooter and very satisfied. But yes I agree 24 MP on the Canon seems like a disappointment.
Why are they charging people in the UK over £2000 more than the US for the R1???????? Costs $6300 dollars - approx £4800 and they expect us to pay £7K !!
As mentioned UK import and sales taxes are higher. Also listed US prices don't include local sales taxes which vary from county to county. Where I live that is about 8% added on checkout.
yep, was thinking that the vent was blocked/impeded by sitting on a flat surface. Still, at least it doesn't have the 30min recording limit. A nice bonus.
@@LeesChannel so with the bottom being blocked, flow is blocked. You can’t expel air if you can’t suck in air to replace it. Whether it comes in the bottom and out the side, or in the side and out the bottom, if one of those points is closed off, the system doesn’t work. Perhaps is still has 10% efficiency, it could probably suck some air in through the out vent, but it would be very turbulent and inefficient.
@@PPYTAO It doesn't matter, there are no fans in the camera. The only way there would be airflow would be forced air from the battery fan grip. Also, it was recorded on a hotel floor, very far from a "stress test." The reality is that these cameras will fare worse in real world conditions, in the heat when the sun is hitting their black painted bodies. Even with the battery fan there is minimal difference in Canon's guidance. The issue is that Canon uses an archaic process node for their sensors and chips, 300nm last I heard, so you can't expect them to run as cool as Sony's. I don't think this is going to be something that Canon resolves any time soon, and even if they had, the software limits would likely still be in place, because Canon uses record time as a differentiator between these and professional cine cameras.
It's still "environmentally sealed" as they say. I think Lok said the air channel runs through a graphite heat sink inside the camera. It's a heat exchanger, not a ventilator.
What's the main difference between the R3 and R1 to make it the flagship as some features of the R3 aren't in the R1? Seems like R1 is just an update to the R3 and not worthy of being it's own line, no?
Hi! The dual shooting could be useful the other way around: to make video while shooting photos. Imagine that you are at an event and want to have some sample video for posting on social media, presentations or just simply showcase your work to clients. Now you can. And that video doesn’t need to be high res, even though FHD is more than enough for most social media posts. All best!
New bodies are cool, but what Canon needs for their RF mount is more lenses. Can't bank on folks adapting EF lenses forever, especially if people are new to Canon as a whole.
Lenses that aren't L series. For example, if you want a standard zoom at consistent 2.8 you're shelling out 2k for L glass because that's the only option. Sony, Nikon, Fuji have a very good option in standard zoom for around half that price either first party or third party. The other systems either have the breadth of choice or are just more accessible all around.
@@romo9592 I see you just mean cheaper alternatives, not missing lenses with specific focal. Just on a side note, Nikon just started to open their mount and before that nobody complained about it ( and they don't have a cheap 24-70 to 70-200 first party) For Fujifilm that recent too, and before it was first party only ( but more affordable than FF). But I'm agree Sony, Panasonic and Leica and Olympus offer the most open alternative on the market.
@@romo9592 ok so it's just about a cheap alternative, not missing some specific lenses. On a side note, Nikon only recently started to open their mount and doesn't have a first-party cheaper standard zoom (they don't even have an f/4 for the 70-200) and nobody complained about it. The same goes for Sony the only cheaper alternative is with a third party. As for the price of the first-party lenses, they are all in the same ballpark. For example, the 24-70mm f/2.8 is around $2400 for Sony Canon, and Nikon.
Thank Kai for this video. I would like to add one thing, please. It’s SAD that these days camera manufacturers justify their price increase by adding flashy but IMPRACTICAL features like upscaling jpg files to 180 megapixels! Why don’t Sony and Canon add 32 BIT FLOAT internal audio recording to their cameras? That will help the majority of camera users who are solo shooters. Panasonic LUMIX GH7 already has it. All the pros know audio is worth 50% of their videos. If the audio is bad, then the video is useless.
Because of the marketing, they always want to sell accessories, cables, and that's why they create all these tiers, the same with any other kind of technology. So far I don't see myself buying the R5 Mk II , I own the R5 since its release and that was an real upgrade from the 5D MK III but this time I don't see the value in upgrading (at least not with my current workflow)
Weird. Name a camera from 2016 with stacked sensors that can shoot 8k raw or 14 bit 45mp photos at 30 fps with better AF than any camera out in 2024? I do know Sony still puts on LCD screens on their cams from 2008... maybe that is what you are thinking of?
Aren't You blocking the cooling airstream by setting the camera on the table, in the test....? And in the fan grip, is thát fan serviceable, ie, can it be cleaned easily....???
Could you please test R1 and R5 ii in the LED environment, will there be frequency problems (horizontal stripes) when shooting with electronic shutter? eg. 1/500s or 1/800s electronic shutter When EOS R5 uses an electronic shutter to shoot "Aputure" LED lights, it will encounter frequency problems. Although it does not appear on other LED brands such as Zhiyun, I still want to know whether Canon's new camera can solve the above problems.
If you dont know what would be DUAL SHOOTING useful for is for real Hybrid shooting so one person can shoot real video and take photos at the same time. This is something that all hybrid shooters are waiting for for years.
Sorry, Canon still doesn't offer us wildlife cameras. The R1 only has 24 megapixels, and the R5 MK II has a bending sensor, no GPS, and no cross-type AF. It's so hard to make an R1S with 45MP?
It's said from some people that got access to the camera (some french site) that internal GPS does work. Don't buy it on that info alone but at least there's a bit of hope.
WTF is a "bending sensor" and why is "only 24 mp" not good enough for wildlife. So many people online buy into the YT spec FOMO. I've had 8mp printed on billboards and they look amazing. I've had 10mp files printed on large wall size prints for about 10 years... look amazing even up close. I've upscaled 24mp files to 45mp to compare and often can't see any real IRL differences, even zoomed in to 100%. Using even basic upscale like Adobes Superscale, my 24mp files look better than 45mp files on screen and printed. And of course all the above applies to cropping as well. The lens and af accuracy matter more than going from 24 to 45mp in real world.
@@77dris I have R3 it is graet camera but some times 24mp is too low. I have to use biger focal length lens or reduce distance to the subject. Sorry upscaling do nothing, it is only copying the same nearest pixels, the printer driver does the same, if orginal image is too small. I was waiting for R1 and meanwhile they released the second R3, which is not much different. They improved the autofocus, after all there was nothing left to improve, it works perfectly in R3. Flagship without 8K video, not good. I want a camera built like the R3, R1 45 mp 40 fps, 16 bit RAW dynamics, with GPS, with a modern 3-2nm processor, which will not need windmills, this time they pack an old processor that has been heating up for quite a few years. A flagship is a flagship without compromise, that's what you pay for.
Einfach mal das Datenblatt der R5 II lesen - es gibt GPS! Nur das muss man ja nicht mehr erwähnen. Die R1 hat eine andere Zielgruppe... Und wenn dir Canon nicht gefällt, nimm einen anderen Anbieter.
it would be interesting, if the next version could just implement a solution like the Frore AirJet Cooler. That would be a nice way to cool the camera fanless.
Does the wedding photographer needs to ask the ceremony guests send him their portraits before the event to register faces in camera now? When Canon adds cool features like "remove background" and "relight" into their AI improved cameras?
The R5 has this issue where the flash shoe goes loose and you have to strip the outer plastic and partially dismantle the camera to tighten the screws. Has this issue been fixed with the R5 mk II?
@@RayValdezPhotography if it’s passive cooling (without the fan grip) I suppose it relies on cooler air going in from below and exiting from the side as hot air is lighter
@@stefanbalmus1659 still doesnt make sense. All you would have to do is put the camera on a tripod and you are in same situation as on the table. Usually shooting over a few minutes at one time is done on a tripod or gimbal, which will block or partially block the bottom intake.
with the yen being extremly low, and the tax advantages you can get at certain shops in Japan. you can get the r5 mark 2 for as low as 2505 euro's when its released. if you happen to be in Japan around 20th of august
Canon verkauft noch immer sehr gut ihre Kameras, das wird sich mit der R1 und R5 II nicht ändern. Auch ist das Gebotene doch wirklich gelungen - mit Alleinstellungsmerkmalen.
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade (that has been missing from most Canon cameras)? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
Wer ist denn sonst so führend? Wer hat alles drin, was der Markt hergibt? Jeder Hersteller hat seine Dinge, die nur er drin hat und andere nicht. Dazu ist die R1 noch eine Vorserie - die Firmware noch weit von Endstand entfernt.
It’s a beautiful camera, hopefully next year the used Mk1s will be down in price on the used market and I’ll be able to upgrade to a full frame. Great video.
They probably didn't turn on the setting in camera that allows the camera to go longer. Even the original R5 hasn't overheated since a firmware came out about 1 1/2 years ago...
where is the magnesium alloy chassis? cameras are going backwards. they are smaller and softer and overheat... sure they handle more data but they probably wouldnt in a bigger body like their predecessors. i just dont get it they seem like they are doing it on purpose to later down the line releases a MKIII or IV with better cooling and make you buy a new camera. why are we as consumers accepting such behaviour?
@@mbismbismb FULL BODY MAG ALLOY GALOREEEE! i want tough feeling cams like 5D and 1D confidence inspiring that makes me abuse it to feel proper and not baby it. i use it in some harsh conditions so i need that. but honestly i dropped my cam only 2 times (R6) cracked and looks like terrible. doesnt look like a battle scar more like its done with life and wants to kill itself. i have to use it with a cage and be very careful with it.
@@Work_Data_PV well be gratefull that this has the same grade as 1 DX mark iii weather and dust sealing.. go abuse... have u watch the eos RP review where they bring it to the snow, they dropped it etc and still fine... i rarely see a canon camera broke easily unless u intended so hard to break it
@@mbismbismb 1- why should i be greatful when we are paying for sometimes incremental changes or even sometimes downgrades. 2- which ones have same weather sealing as 1D? R5 II? R1? R6 I? if the R1 didnt it would be a big disrespect to the canon users especially with the price tag. if the R5 and R6 do, well ok good thats a worthy improvement but im sure they are not as ive read i can use my R6 in wet conditions only is small splashes. 3- RP? only if you intend to? have you seen what Kai Wong did to 7D on digital revs channel? basically set it on fire, put it in a tub of water and froze it and it still worked. we need that kind of test and proofs to be asured. 4- 5D still sells from the old prices brand new while many R line models are losing half their prices off the shelves. good for us consumers to buy but what does it say that we are not paying attention to?
@@Work_Data_PV Die R1 und auch R3, R5, R5 II sind so abgedichtet wie die 1D-Serie. Und wenn ich dann eine R6 kaufe, darf ich für den kleineren Preis nicht das erwarten, was die 1D-Serie kann bzw. die Nachfolger. Die R1 kann schon mal mehr und wird wohl auch noch mehr Funktionen bekommen, die Firmware war bei der Aufnahme noch lange nicht bei 1.0.0 angekommen.
Two guys making jokes about the room interior while reading off a spec sheet. None of them has ever managed to create a single exceptional photograph in their entire lives, or has even participated once in an extensive photography project. They wouldn’t even have a clue how to put any of the gear they’re talking about into proper use. If these are the people who dictate the development of cameras then I’m not surprised why every single current model (except the Leica M) is a nightmare to use for photographers and feels more like a PlayStation than a photography tool… 🤦🏼♂️
Bokeh Bros doing canon, kind of feels like the good ol DR days
Ive been watch kai for so long that 51 autofocus points and 12fps was unbelievably impressive l, crazy the rate of progression on tech and how quickly we all get used to it
Canon feeling really brave selling a 600 dollar built in fan battery grip without any dedicated shutter button 💀 Kinda speaks for Canon's pricing point as a whole, which is of course unsurprising.
im not a hundred percent sure on what im about to say but i bet they couldnt fit all the boards in there.. as for the price.. price is set for what the market will bear...
Du filmst in Portait-Modus? oder doch eher Landscape? Also wozu sollten dann Tasten am Lüftergriff sein?
Ah yes...finally...The R3 Mark 2 is finally here!!! 😑
R3s more like!!
Still believe the R3 was supposed to be the R1 but then Sony released something and they were like "Oh not this... uh its the R uh.. 3"
@@classic.cameras the r3s hell yeah... i was lookin at the r5s back in the day.. but this one has sports mode ai tracking... can i get a range finder on this bitch?
@@classic.camerasHow could that be if what they released three years later is so inferior (some are saying)? Wouldn't they use those three years to really blow your socks off? Fact is that they released the R3 one year after they released the flagship 1dxiii. There is no way they were going to release another flagship that fast. Canon always releases their flagship in the year of the Olympics. The 1dxiii was released in 2020, and though the Olympics were canceled due to Covid, it WAS the year of the Olympics. I KNEW, and have been telling anyone who would listen, that the next flagship would be released in 2024! Here we are! Oh, and it's an awesome camera well worthy of the flagship title! It may not be your cup of tea, but it's a dream camera for working sports and photojournalism pros!
£600+ for a battery grip is crazy
Yep completely mental
Hence just wait for 3rd party version.
without a dedicated shutter button either 💀
@@FrankLeeYoung yeah that’s what got me too… really limited
Not a huge fan of it.
For real estate and architectural photography stills the 5D Mark IV is still just as good as the new R5 Mark II despite Mark IV being 8 years old. I guess I'll see what they do with the R5 Mark III.....
And one day when you upgrade you’ll be wondering why you waited for so long. That was my case.
@@Davitor1 I rented the R5 Mark I...
@@Davitor1 They already said they have a focus on real estate and architectural photography. Neither of which have eyes so I don't think an advanced autofocus system would be worth the 4k + investment in upgrading. So that 5D is gonna be going strong for a while.
Yeah. It's the same for me photographing flowers in my backyard. And what do you expect it to have more ?
@@mousbleu Megapixels would be one example. The 5DS from 2015 had more. In my line of work its very useful.
It sometimes feels like we're losing our way a little bit, as the focus is so much on higher res/fps video... These bodies are getting pretty big now for added cooling, and here we have a BIG ugly grip with a fan for video purposes.
For a stills shooter like myself (not hardcore sports and wildlife), these new cameras are just so overly complicated and it feels like we're paying for hybrid features we don't need or want... And so older models become super attractive at a discount.
My main camera is still a Sony A7R III(A) because I'm just not even slightly tempted to 'upgrade', paying a ton of money for features I won't use, with absolutely no improvement in IQ.
I know I'm whining but whatever... I'd just love a stills-focused high-end model with the latest AF but far less emphasis on video.
The thing is you don't need a new camera all the time. Video is where a lot of money is at right now and social media prioritizes video so that is why cameras are that way but if a person is fine with a 5dmark ii or something then he can just stick what that until they need something else. People need to understand this.
Dude you're spot on. I've been shooting some film and a Canon 5D Mark II lately. The Mark II is still so solid and nostalgic for me. Great photos still and i'm not sorting through 10,000 pictures of my kid playing every night :)
R5 doesn't look big and series 1 have always been big and tacky. I get what you say but imagine a world where the r5mkii didn't have impressive video features, it'd be dead in the water vs competitors, truth be told most professionals now need to offer photo AND video, so unless they make another R version we probably will keep seeing this trend.
The rp is still focused mate.
@@RayValdezPhotography I'd still like a better sensor with stabilization, pixel shift, dr, iso, resolution, maybe stuff like the eye tracking for focus, updated memory card speed and connectors, etc. Tons of things that aren't video.
It’s awesome and I love the channel but it kinda feels the same . I was more excited about the Pentax film camera 🤷♂️ !!
The R5 Mk II looks like an amazing camera. The only niggles are the LCD articulation being a bit basic (why can't they do a fancy Sony/Nikon style tilt AND flip mechanism?) and the price. In a couple of years, when used ones start to appear, and price drops begin, this will be a very tempting bit of kit.
Kai Flexing that Rolex GMT
Lok explaining ‘Whole Area Tracking Area Servo AF’ better in 10 seconds than heaps of RUclipsrs explaining this feature from the R6ii
I want a more compact R5. I moved to RF because I wanted a compact full frame camera. I got the original EOS R. I love that size.
R6 mark II
@@MihaiStrömpl Fantastic camera.
Really love the synergy between you two!
I have missed these two bloody legend.
Damn I haven't see a video from kai in a while! It's nice to see the R1 is finally out
As was demonstrated in final release hardware, that basketball detection worked incredibly well
Nice vid. Two cameras for different applications. The R1 is for pro sports shooters getting paid to get the shot. The R5 is for Birding and Events where the detail matters! Weddings where the Brides dress, ring, hair, and cake need to look amazing. Models all applies with emphasis on clothes. Speed is not and issue and you usually have control over lighting. Being able to blow them up and pleasing skin tones are a must.
I have a 5D Mk II that still takes beautiful photos.
5dmkII doesn't have ISO invariance. That's a complete dealbreaker for me.
I still have my 6D and XSi (Rebel 450) - still great cameras.
I just upgraded from the 5dii to an R. The autofocus on mirrorless is worth it for portraits.
I've been just edited old Canon 400D raws using DXO and Topaz and they're much better than most modern jpegs from new cameras
@@christophersautter6532 Totally. I had the 1DIII and 5DIV and then got the R a few years ago and the AF accuracy on my lenses, especially my Sigma Art lenses, improved by about 100%. The R6 II is even better.
The blackout free shooting probably makes a difference if you turn off image preview. At least on my R5 having image preview turned on, the camera tries to show the last taken image for 2 seconds or whatever it's set to instead of showing live view in between the shots. In continuous It's basically like looking at a stop motion movie, completely horrible to shoot like that. By turning off image preview I get a much smoother and nicer experience but with blackout.
Also the 40 fps limit is probably because RF lenses have their aperture designed to work up to 40 fps. So you can shoot 40 fps on f/16 if you like to. Other companies often have caveats like that you have to shoot wide open. Sonys newer lenses work up to 30 fps and the older one only up to 15 fps as example.
Great video as usual, keep up the good work bros!
Love this format where they just banter about the cameras. Another great review!
Kai and Lock with a cannon it is like the good old days we all miss the DRTV shows however does everyone know the DRTV videos are back up? time to binge watch them again! In fact it is their fault I keep buying camera equipment especially those from a simpler time ,sure I like technologay as much as the next person but who can afford these especially when the simple and entertaining guides from DR time was useful my go to for buying used camera gear even now.who needs that 900000 stops of dynamic range 6000000 frames a second and 28 K video time to go back to basics the whole reason we love photography and the joy it brings .
Still baffled 4K over heats it in 45mins. And a battery fan grip with no vertical controls, like wtf is cannon doing?
it would be overheat faster when the camera is under the sun in summer
They are way behind in process nodes on their sensors, so they overheat far easier than Sony sensors. I remember back when the Samsung NX1 came out, Samsung was using a 32nm process, and Canon was using a 300nm process (I forget what Sony was using, but it was far behind Samsung as well.) I wouldn't be surprised if they have not moved very far beyond that 300nm process even to this day.
Nothing impressive about the R1 at all. Canon just needs to call the camera an R3 mark ii and move on now.
Kinda agree.. I think they should've gone up slightly on megapixels (slightly) like 30 mp, a stacked sensor, and then try to have global shutter to compete with Sony
@@WillSheltonXx At least a 45 mp sensor. Canon likely got caught off by surprised when sony released a global shutter sensor. The R1 is in the same situation as the 1DX Mark iii. Canon invested way too much money in it that they decided to release it anyways to try to recoup some revenues from it. Im sure Canon will bump up the mega pixels in the future R1 mark ii which will be 3 years later.
Sony might leapfrog Canon again with the A1markii. The R1 stands no chance
@@ryanvacation7319 Sony is still ahead of Canon right now. And from the specs of the A1-ii, Im not too impress with it. It will likely hit 40 or 50 fps this time around but for sure the new body will be a huge game changer for A1 users. The A.i. autofocus will help as well on selecting subjects to focus on. If the A1-ii has a Global Shutter sensor, that will be a huge game changer for sure. But i do think Sony is still developing their Global Shutter so they are just waiting for the perfect GS to put in their A1.
Besides that, all 3 camera brands are very good today now. Its just up to personal preferences for sure but Sony is still ahead of the game.
"every photo is a magical blend of bokeh and trolley ladies"
just what the algorithms crave
That's what I look for when shopping for food processors
Waited for this so I can buy a z8
Very wise decision. I got the Z9 once the rumors came out that the R1 won’t have high megapixels sensor.
Just curious but why? I’m also a Z8 user but this new MKii beats out the Z8 in terms of spec (not price though haha)
Doing the same. Z9. Dumping Canon after a few decades
@@christophercarlimages9003wow. Everything about the canon seems impressive with the AF. I’m a Z9 shooter and very satisfied. But yes I agree 24 MP on the Canon seems like a disappointment.
@@christophercarlimages9003 z9 is a solid choice gentlemen...
I think this is the earliest I’ve ever been to a new video. Cheers. Kind of seems like a better buy to just get the well discounted R5 to be honest.
Why are they charging people in the UK over £2000 more than the US for the R1???????? Costs $6300 dollars - approx £4800 and they expect us to pay £7K !!
taxes
As mentioned UK import and sales taxes are higher. Also listed US prices don't include local sales taxes which vary from county to county. Where I live that is about 8% added on checkout.
Free trip to the US included with purchase.
Europe has crazy taxes and the US dollar is strong against the yen.
Australia cost will be enormous, we call it the Australia Tax. The companies call it the rather vague “the cost of doing business in Australia”..
R1 is looking great. I am sure the pro's will love it, as always with canon's 1-series. There's good reason they are the largest player in the market
Photographers need weather sealing; so if overheating is an issue just open the for the r5c
R5ii may have had better cooling performance if it wasn't sat flat down on a smooth surface, doesn't the air flow out of the bottom there?
yep, was thinking that the vent was blocked/impeded by sitting on a flat surface. Still, at least it doesn't have the 30min recording limit. A nice bonus.
it can if the production company uses copper heatsinks. But they're more expensive than aluminum
No, it flows up from the bottom and out the side
@@LeesChannel so with the bottom being blocked, flow is blocked. You can’t expel air if you can’t suck in air to replace it.
Whether it comes in the bottom and out the side, or in the side and out the bottom, if one of those points is closed off, the system doesn’t work. Perhaps is still has 10% efficiency, it could probably suck some air in through the out vent, but it would be very turbulent and inefficient.
@@PPYTAO It doesn't matter, there are no fans in the camera. The only way there would be airflow would be forced air from the battery fan grip. Also, it was recorded on a hotel floor, very far from a "stress test." The reality is that these cameras will fare worse in real world conditions, in the heat when the sun is hitting their black painted bodies. Even with the battery fan there is minimal difference in Canon's guidance.
The issue is that Canon uses an archaic process node for their sensors and chips, 300nm last I heard, so you can't expect them to run as cool as Sony's. I don't think this is going to be something that Canon resolves any time soon, and even if they had, the software limits would likely still be in place, because Canon uses record time as a differentiator between these and professional cine cameras.
So there are vents now, is it not weather sealed now?
It's still "environmentally sealed" as they say. I think Lok said the air channel runs through a graphite heat sink inside the camera. It's a heat exchanger, not a ventilator.
I been a follower for a while. Awesome work!!
No more new body testing on far east streets. Still missed you guys
What's the main difference between the R3 and R1 to make it the flagship as some features of the R3 aren't in the R1? Seems like R1 is just an update to the R3 and not worthy of being it's own line, no?
Might as well go back to DSLR's
Uh huh. And the electronic shutter is just another to reduce cost, when you look at it objectively.
Haven't left :)
Damn got to watch this seconds upon release
Hi!
The dual shooting could be useful the other way around: to make video while shooting photos. Imagine that you are at an event and want to have some sample video for posting on social media, presentations or just simply showcase your work to clients. Now you can. And that video doesn’t need to be high res, even though FHD is more than enough for most social media posts.
All best!
The on and off switch and stills and movie switch on the Nikon cameras are ergonomically so much better! Why can’t Canon get this right?
New bodies are cool, but what Canon needs for their RF mount is more lenses. Can't bank on folks adapting EF lenses forever, especially if people are new to Canon as a whole.
Just out of curiosity, because I keep seeing some people say that, but what lenses are missing in the RF line?
Lenses that aren't L series. For example, if you want a standard zoom at consistent 2.8 you're shelling out 2k for L glass because that's the only option. Sony, Nikon, Fuji have a very good option in standard zoom for around half that price either first party or third party. The other systems either have the breadth of choice or are just more accessible all around.
@@romo9592 I see you just mean cheaper alternatives, not missing lenses with specific focal.
Just on a side note, Nikon just started to open their mount and before that nobody complained about it ( and they don't have a cheap 24-70 to 70-200 first party) For Fujifilm that recent too, and before it was first party only ( but more affordable than FF). But I'm agree Sony, Panasonic and Leica and Olympus offer the most open alternative on the market.
@@romo9592 ok so it's just about a cheap alternative, not missing some specific lenses.
On a side note, Nikon only recently started to open their mount and doesn't have a first-party cheaper standard zoom (they don't even have an f/4 for the 70-200) and nobody complained about it. The same goes for Sony the only cheaper alternative is with a third party. As for the price of the first-party lenses, they are all in the same ballpark. For example, the 24-70mm f/2.8 is around $2400 for Sony Canon, and Nikon.
Thank Kai for this video. I would like to add one thing, please. It’s SAD that these days camera manufacturers justify their price increase by adding flashy but IMPRACTICAL features like upscaling jpg files to 180 megapixels! Why don’t Sony and Canon add 32 BIT FLOAT internal audio recording to their cameras? That will help the majority of camera users who are solo shooters. Panasonic LUMIX GH7 already has it. All the pros know audio is worth 50% of their videos. If the audio is bad, then the video is useless.
Because of the marketing, they always want to sell accessories, cables, and that's why they create all these tiers, the same with any other kind of technology.
So far I don't see myself buying the R5 Mk II , I own the R5 since its release and that was an real upgrade from the 5D MK III but this time I don't see the value in upgrading (at least not with my current workflow)
@@vladox I totally agree with you.
Woah! New ultra expensive cameras with features from 2016!
The DSLR version Cost more, just so you KNOW. Some 8 years later, we have A less expensive version with Far More Features.
There's an old saying. Every two years Canon releases a four year old camera.
@@rkgaustin Accurate!
Weird. Name a camera from 2016 with stacked sensors that can shoot 8k raw or 14 bit 45mp photos at 30 fps with better AF than any camera out in 2024?
I do know Sony still puts on LCD screens on their cams from 2008... maybe that is what you are thinking of?
Dual shooting might be a bit useless. Assuming that the original video size is 6k, you can just take screenshots and it would be fine
Aren't You blocking the cooling airstream by setting the camera on the table, in the test....?
And in the fan grip, is thát fan serviceable, ie, can it be cleaned easily....???
Could you please test R1 and R5 ii in the LED environment, will there be frequency problems (horizontal stripes) when shooting with electronic shutter? eg. 1/500s or 1/800s electronic shutter
When EOS R5 uses an electronic shutter to shoot "Aputure" LED lights, it will encounter frequency problems. Although it does not appear on other LED brands such as Zhiyun, I still want to know whether Canon's new camera can solve the above problems.
Kai with the Batman watch.
If you dont know what would be DUAL SHOOTING useful for is for real Hybrid shooting so one person can shoot real video and take photos at the same time. This is something that all hybrid shooters are waiting for for years.
There is no way in 2024 I would buy a big fugly chunky camera like those Canons. I'll stick with my Fujifilm XT5,XT30 and lenses.
so 5K+ GBP or Euro or whatever for an R5 II? id rather a c70 honestly. thats a stupid upgrade. im very disappointed in the pricing
I think the R5 MII needs to be set on fire to test the overheating, that's the classic DigitalRev way of testing
show me on the doll where the r5 ii touched you😅😅😅
Sorry, Canon still doesn't offer us wildlife cameras. The R1 only has 24 megapixels, and the R5 MK II has a bending sensor, no GPS, and no cross-type AF. It's so hard to make an R1S with 45MP?
@@n1ngnuothey’re cheaper because they’re NOT made in Japan. Sony does have their Pro videos cams made in Japan but they’re a lot more expensive.
It's said from some people that got access to the camera (some french site) that internal GPS does work. Don't buy it on that info alone but at least there's a bit of hope.
WTF is a "bending sensor" and why is "only 24 mp" not good enough for wildlife. So many people online buy into the YT spec FOMO. I've had 8mp printed on billboards and they look amazing. I've had 10mp files printed on large wall size prints for about 10 years... look amazing even up close. I've upscaled 24mp files to 45mp to compare and often can't see any real IRL differences, even zoomed in to 100%. Using even basic upscale like Adobes Superscale, my 24mp files look better than 45mp files on screen and printed. And of course all the above applies to cropping as well. The lens and af accuracy matter more than going from 24 to 45mp in real world.
@@77dris I have R3 it is graet camera but some times 24mp is too low. I have to use biger focal length lens or reduce distance to the subject. Sorry upscaling do nothing, it is only copying the same nearest pixels, the printer driver does the same, if orginal image is too small. I was waiting for R1 and meanwhile they released the second R3, which is not much different. They improved the autofocus, after all there was nothing left to improve, it works perfectly in R3. Flagship without 8K video, not good. I want a camera built like the R3, R1 45 mp 40 fps, 16 bit RAW dynamics, with GPS, with a modern 3-2nm processor, which will not need windmills, this time they pack an old processor that has been heating up for quite a few years.
A flagship is a flagship without compromise, that's what you pay for.
Einfach mal das Datenblatt der R5 II lesen - es gibt GPS! Nur das muss man ja nicht mehr erwähnen. Die R1 hat eine andere Zielgruppe... Und wenn dir Canon nicht gefällt, nimm einen anderen Anbieter.
Working my way through some old Digital Rev Videos… did they delete them all for a while and now they are all back?
love your reviews, great as allways. I still go with my DSLR 1D X Mark III. just the best cam I ever had! Still see no reason for me to go dslm !
it would be interesting, if the next version could just implement a solution like the Frore AirJet Cooler. That would be a nice way to cool the camera fanless.
Does the wedding photographer needs to ask the ceremony guests send him their portraits before the event to register faces in camera now? When Canon adds cool features like "remove background" and "relight" into their AI improved cameras?
Registrieren der Gesichter geht ganz schnell vor Ort - Bild vom Gesicht machen und registrieren - erledigt.
Mount still closed? Sorry Canon, all the bodies are good enough already…we only want an open mount.
Likewise, I poop on Cannon.
Thank for your great work! Naive question: which one is better for video in the end?
LUMIX GH7 😂
@@lesnayalesichka Ha ha, that´s a smart answer. But don't you use a Canon camera yourself?
@@alfredknodler540 own few, like 5dM4, R5 and a bunch of their lenses.
Ive gone right off Canon. Gone back to Minolta (Sony), cost me a fortune but Im happier
End of the canon flagship starts here with R1
So it looks like it over greater because you blocked the bottom vents by sitting it flat on a table. Try it on a tripod for a real world test.
I come straight to Kai
The R5 has this issue where the flash shoe goes loose and you have to strip the outer plastic and partially dismantle the camera to tighten the screws.
Has this issue been fixed with the R5 mk II?
I have the R5 for a long time and I never had this problem, and never heard of anyone having this issue. Maybe that was a default on your unit.
Seems like the bottom vent was covered in Lok’s test due to placement on the table
that's an air intake. I wouldnt think it matters that much. heat goes out from the side. I dont have it to know for sure.
@@RayValdezPhotography if it’s passive cooling (without the fan grip) I suppose it relies on cooler air going in from below and exiting from the side as hot air is lighter
@@stefanbalmus1659 still doesnt make sense. All you would have to do is put the camera on a tripod and you are in same situation as on the table. Usually shooting over a few minutes at one time is done on a tripod or gimbal, which will block or partially block the bottom intake.
Yeah, shoulda been on a tripod.
R5 II is now the best hybrid out there. The R1 is kind of not necessary at all, especially for the price I don't know who would buy it to be honest.
Jene, die auch schon die 1D-Serie gekauft haben oder die R3. Nichts für den Hobbyfotografen.
with the yen being extremly low, and the tax advantages you can get at certain shops in Japan. you can get the r5 mark 2 for as low as 2505 euro's when its released. if you happen to be in Japan around 20th of august
Does eye control work with glasses???
How old both of you now? I still remember watching kai 1st video was reviewing canon 70 200mm that was 2009 or 2010.
Some third-party manufacturers will make a cooling grip with a shutter button.
BUT WHAT ABOUT IMAGE QUALITY!?
As a photographer, I do not care about video that much. I want dynamic range, no noise and resolution.
I’m a lifelong Canon user, but I feel that Canon might be losing the plot.
Canon verkauft noch immer sehr gut ihre Kameras, das wird sich mit der R1 und R5 II nicht ändern. Auch ist das Gebotene doch wirklich gelungen - mit Alleinstellungsmerkmalen.
Canon believes that they will sell hundreds of thousands of units because people really want their new cameras. Hahahahaha……….. not at those prices.
Especially the R1! Only the rich
@@hawaiifreespeechnews Die R1 richtet sich auch nicht an den Hobbyfotografen....
I wish I could use the RF lenses with a different brand’s camera
Go out and shoot some photos!
Just need to know if you CAN shoot 120p in cropped mode
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade (that has been missing from most Canon cameras)? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
Only GoPro does that well
tbh get a bubble level. The MEMS gyroscopes suck anyway. They tend to be 1º-5º off at any given time.
R1....I remember when Canon used to lead this segment. Everything changes.
Wer ist denn sonst so führend? Wer hat alles drin, was der Markt hergibt? Jeder Hersteller hat seine Dinge, die nur er drin hat und andere nicht. Dazu ist die R1 noch eine Vorserie - die Firmware noch weit von Endstand entfernt.
everytime new one comes out, its getting worse.
What watch are you sporting?
Exciting
When is Kai getting 1 million subs? :(((
It’s a beautiful camera, hopefully next year the used Mk1s will be down in price on the used market and I’ll be able to upgrade to a full frame. Great video.
uncle roger would say you can program someones face and it will focus on them... and after that you can focus on msg...
Why are these cameras over heating? Never had this problem in older cameras
older cameras never had such resolution or bitrate either. capturing & storing large amounts of data generates a lot of heat
They probably didn't turn on the setting in camera that allows the camera to go longer. Even the original R5 hasn't overheated since a firmware came out about 1 1/2 years ago...
@@77dris That not true, the R5 still overheat in 8k or 4k HQ.
What's the point of a Canon mirrorless if it is as big as a dslr. I'll stick with Sony.
Bei den großen Teleobjektiven ist die Größe der Kamera Nebensache. Und größere Body heißt auch mehr Platz für sinnvolle Tasten.
For R5ii, have 8k 60p H.265 formate？
How would it be weather proof when there are now vents?
Wie bleibt das Kühlerwasser im Kühler eines Autos?
Thank god the windows are closed because a light breeze would carry Lok away 😂😂😂😂😂
Best time to get a R5 mk1.
I think the next Canon flagship camera will have a minus 5mp sensor
Schau dir die Sony A1 an - das gleiche Ziel und auch nur 24MP. Mehr braucht die Zielgruppe auch nicht.
very very good thank you guys
Do I see sensor reflection on the eye control AF section?
Why would you need Photo solutions for video problems?
Wonder if the auto power off temp setting was changed?
Bros would benefit from after black gf effect
Faster & SMARTER! And........ totaly very more Expensive! Prices like a Car..... Mireless Price Madness!
My guy missed a dunk, fuckin brutal
is 4k 60 line skipping or oversampling on r5ii?🤔
4K 60p line skipping according to PetaPixel 😑
@@rvdxpress hopefully they fix that in firmware, the R5C can do oversampled 4K60p.
I just preordered 10 R1s. No way you can get a good picture with anything less than an R1. NO WAY.
10 R1’s? Are you running a sports video agency?!
No vertical button are you serious?
where is the magnesium alloy chassis? cameras are going backwards. they are smaller and softer and overheat... sure they handle more data but they probably wouldnt in a bigger body like their predecessors. i just dont get it they seem like they are doing it on purpose to later down the line releases a MKIII or IV with better cooling and make you buy a new camera. why are we as consumers accepting such behaviour?
How do u know it is not mag alloy inside? The structure is from mag alloy
@@mbismbismb FULL BODY MAG ALLOY GALOREEEE! i want tough feeling cams like 5D and 1D confidence inspiring that makes me abuse it to feel proper and not baby it. i use it in some harsh conditions so i need that. but honestly i dropped my cam only 2 times (R6) cracked and looks like terrible. doesnt look like a battle scar more like its done with life and wants to kill itself. i have to use it with a cage and be very careful with it.
@@Work_Data_PV well be gratefull that this has the same grade as 1 DX mark iii weather and dust sealing.. go abuse... have u watch the eos RP review where they bring it to the snow, they dropped it etc and still fine... i rarely see a canon camera broke easily unless u intended so hard to break it
@@mbismbismb 1- why should i be greatful when we are paying for sometimes incremental changes or even sometimes downgrades.
2- which ones have same weather sealing as 1D? R5 II? R1? R6 I? if the R1 didnt it would be a big disrespect to the canon users especially with the price tag. if the R5 and R6 do, well ok good thats a worthy improvement but im sure they are not as ive read i can use my R6 in wet conditions only is small splashes.
3- RP? only if you intend to? have you seen what Kai Wong did to 7D on digital revs channel? basically set it on fire, put it in a tub of water and froze it and it still worked. we need that kind of test and proofs to be asured.
4- 5D still sells from the old prices brand new while many R line models are losing half their prices off the shelves. good for us consumers to buy but what does it say that we are not paying attention to?
@@Work_Data_PV Die R1 und auch R3, R5, R5 II sind so abgedichtet wie die 1D-Serie. Und wenn ich dann eine R6 kaufe, darf ich für den kleineren Preis nicht das erwarten, was die 1D-Serie kann bzw. die Nachfolger. Die R1 kann schon mal mehr und wird wohl auch noch mehr Funktionen bekommen, die Firmware war bei der Aufnahme noch lange nicht bei 1.0.0 angekommen.
Two guys making jokes about the room interior while reading off a spec sheet. None of them has ever managed to create a single exceptional photograph in their entire lives, or has even participated once in an extensive photography project. They wouldn’t even have a clue how to put any of the gear they’re talking about into proper use. If these are the people who dictate the development of cameras then I’m not surprised why every single current model (except the Leica M) is a nightmare to use for photographers and feels more like a PlayStation than a photography tool… 🤦🏼♂️