@@IPL_VIC it's probably because he prefers low end thrust to top end power if there's a choice of highpower/low torque vs hightorque/low power. You came up with the perfect option that rarely exists.
Well I think if the car has too much power it will loose character I feel if the brz was a 0-60 in 5 secs and had a bit more go juice I would be happy. I don't need it to go crazy just a bit more umpf
You're the guy who sells their car and is oblivious to all the missed preventative maintenance ("it only needed a battery"). Like no, it needed lots of stuff. Next owner had a blast I'm sure.
The issue was when people went to get the recall fixed. dealership mechanics would butcher the valve spring replacement because it was a 12 hour job and engines would blow a week later. Mine was in the shop for a month.
Owning a BRZ for 9 months now I can say it's the perfect daily driver. Put some decent rubber on it (got Goodyear Eagle F1 225 45 17 atm) and it will handle so damn well. Low center of gravity, perfect driving position, no electronic bullcrap, tons of fun. And you can get 36mpg / 6.5l/100km average out of it. Never expected that.
The reverse plate that prevents the shifter from going into reverse without pulling up the collar is mis-aligned @8:43. It can be adjusted if you remove the shifter boot and center cover. You should not have any issues pulling left all the way to get into first or second.
“I would LS swap the BRZ” Thanks, I then lost 30 mins of my life as I left your vid to watch folks doing it. :) I came back to finish your vid though :).
John Anderson stop spamming your muscle car and pick up truck nonsense everywhere, this is pathetic. Again, if you only care about flooring it on the straight then why on earth are you watching a BRZ video anyway... 🙄
@@microsickful Seriously, what's his problem? Like five comments in a row that I've clicked on he's responded with a screed about how ford trucks are better.
vzda123 Was 2012-2013 recall some 2014 models also affected depends on number plate. Price jumps big time on 2015 model and up. E.g. 2012-2013 10-12grand 2014 and up 15grand plus.
The fact that you like cars makes me appreciate you even more. I watched your videos a ton a couple years ago before I stopped playing the game, they were awesome!
I love my 2019 BRZ RS! I bought it for fun and I haven't been disappointed. Thank you for your earlier BRZ reviews - it helped me make my decision to purchase. Love your channel.
@@chadhanson4369 In straight line, yes. Are you sure it is same pleasure to take any truck into a corner? For other markets, this is "cheap" to insure as well. I still agree with a turbo, especially that Subaru has lost of engines to choose from :)
@@chadhanson4369 My family has been driving Subaru's since the 80s. This is also my second Subaru personally. I can tell you Subaru's are so much better built than Chevy's and Dodge's. The BRZ is a completely different car than the Camaro and Mustang. I used to work for a GM dealer and my BRZ interior and my old impreza interior was a nice place to be compared to the cheap plastic and rubber that American cars have. Those are pony/muscle cars and the BRZ is a sports car. Some people want to go fast in a straight line, others want to go corner to corner on a twisty road. Different strokes for different folks.
@@chadhanson4369 Just out of curiosity, why Toyota is not on the list? Just coincident or opinion? I agree with Subbie build quality being low. This is I will avoid S. even though they are cheap in Japan. I most likely will go for Honda Freed - AWD hybrid ;)
It lacks the power it needs. It’s handling is phenomenal, but because it isn’t accompanied by a whole lot of power it feels a bit lackluster. It honestly doesn’t even need all the much power but it’s just so underwhelming. Does it ruin the car? No. Does it keep you wishing for more? Yes x10. Is it still a fun car? Fuck yeah.
Even after 7 years, people still bring up the objection for “tHiS nEeDs MoRe PoWa” If this came with more horesepower, the it defeats its purpose of being an affordable sports car. It’s a Tuner car FFS! Meaning it’s a blank canvas for anyone to mod the crap out of it. If you want more power, you have 370’z. The original 86 from the 80’s stood for the same purpose - Affordable fun sports car.
Cham JDM “more power” =/= “unaffordable” Using the 2.4l would have cost nothing incrementally and using the WRX power plant could have been done reasonably as well. Everything that is good about this car would be better with 50-80 more hp and lb-ft. And 370’s are a terrible comparison of old, heavy, wallowing, 2-seat garbage.
@@ChevyCamaroIsBetter you're right I've driven a new one and loved it. I mean I've driven new mustangs and stuff but they don't handle that good to me compared to the brz, civic, miata
Peak power isn't my only issue with this car, it's the torque dip from 3,250-4,500 right in the meat of the power band. Having driven most iterations of the Miata (NA, NB & ND) and Mustang (most everything from the 60's to current, save the new GT350), either are better options. I currently drive a (mildly modified) 2006 WRX wagon that destroys a BRZ in every aspect of driving except for driftability in the dry, in the rain and snow my WRX out drifts a BRZ. All of that stated, I know people that have and love BRZs/86s, it's just not the right option for me.
I have one of the 100. Absolutely love this car, it is ridiculously fun. Surprised about you comment on the shifter though, mine shifts very smooth and no problem finding the gears quickly. I love the STI short shifter. Great review dudes!!
they don't bother... sport car sale is so low... they just don't bother made the turbo one... since that would conflict with toyota.... and JDM car right now is a trend that you want more? Go do it yourselves kind of thing...
@@chadhanson4369 Man you just love shitting that 16 second lie all over this comment section. And you never respond to anyone calling you on it becasue you can't defend the lie, so silence is your only option.
I love dd’ing my 2015 series blue brz. People that want more power just don’t get it. Not saying that it wouldn’t be fun to have more! But squeezing it dry every time I accelerate makes me love it. I had a 300hp WRX and I only ran it 100% maybe 10-20% of the time. The BRZ is unique and you can USE the power that it does have more often!
Yuri - Thanks for clearing up the satellite radio thing for us - that was bugging me! Your reasoning makes perfect sense. Keep up the good work fellas.
I remember watching the regular brz video about a year ago when I owned a automatic 2014 civic and now I do own a Scion FR-S and while it’s not the fastest car I love it and it’s the best thing to drive
John Anderson Not arguing with your reliability point as I’m not familiar enough; however my own friends who are also mechanics don’t seem to have a problem over any other cars they’ve owned. For your other points though, to be fair I don’t think anyone is getting this car for quarter mile times.. American cars have come a long way but there aren’t many that handle like a BRZ in its class. And that’s why you get these cars. They’re very fast in the corners.
John Anderson if accelerating in a straight line is all you care about then by all means stay as FAR AWAY as possible from the likes of BRZ/86 and Miata since these cars aren’t built for straight line speed. I traded in my V8 charger for a manual 86 because I wanted to learn how to drive fast on the racetrack and the 86 is the perfect tool for the job. Teaches you so much about car control and gives you so much feedback, but then again you only car about straight line speed and drag racing and all that stuff that hardly require any skills.
John Anderson yes I agree that the BRZ does not seem like it has the best value for the price and interior quality is somewhat cheap. But I feel like that’s the point of this car, a minimalistic lightweight sports car that resembles the classic JDM cars in the late 80s/early 90s. The Kia Stinger is a VERY good car and honestly I was tempted to get one of those used if not for it doesn’t come with a manual option. The thing is if you want more “interior quality” and such it would most likely come in the form of more weight, and the Stjnger is A LOT heavier than the BRZ despite it being not that much bigger. I never said that the BRZ is fast, because it’s not, not even on the racetrack, well it is through corners if you do it right but you know... it’s more like it teaches you how to drive fast and trains you really well for the fundamentals of racing techniques. Make no mistake I WILL upgrade to something else when I have the money, but for now, my 86 is perfect for what I need. And yes I do go to the track for HPDE events more than 5 times a year. I try to go once every month or so. Will be going again in late October for one last time this year before winter comes.
Hahahaha yes a 450-500 hp 4×4 pick up truck will beat a brz and fiesta st but do you know how many trucks that were ahead of me from red light to red light as soon as we got winding roads I was up their tailpipe then after I was passed them on a sweeping curve I never saw them again as the roads turns left them shaken because they were about to roll over as i didnt even have to hit the brakes by the end of the 5 min. Drive the powerful truck never even saw me again ......fiesta st 20ishk brz 25ishk truck 50k better in a straight line but still not that far ahead few car lengths around turns so many car lengths ahead the truck is a memory. As crazy as it sounds pro race car driver took stock fiesta st vs hellcat and fiesta had best overall track time by granted only a .16 and better consistent time of a tenthish more. And I hear the BRZ gets even better times than the fiesta st
Another benefit of satellite radio, is you can drive a LONG distance without ever losing signal. There are many places where the only option is a country station and a half-dozen religious stations. With Satellite radio, your stations never change and never drop out. Spotify is good if you have a playlist downloaded and want to specifically listen to that, but otherwise there are still plenty of areas in the US where cell signal strength/speed drops off HARD outside of a good sized town. My only issue with satellite radio is that my signal gets blocked by large buildings to the South of my car when driving through cities with even moderately tall buildings (i.e. ~4 stories or taller), or when really close to a building, such as when in the drive thru at Starbucks.
Got a 1 of 100 turboed brz in US. Making around 350 on stock internals, everything else has been upgraded, pump cooling, clutch. Got a gtx3076R hks turbo kit. That makes it sounds like a pigeon, fits perfectly with the color and sound!. 22k miles on it currently. Looking to K swap when motor takes a dump, currently sitting on 8-14 psi. Just recently hit 17psi. And no issues had accured from a quite a few pulls. Able to keep up or beat alot of v8's which is not bad at all. Extremely fun car!
I'm so glad you guys upload in eastern time. I'm in Vancouver but work eastern and need my mid-morning break but you're the only uploaders at this time!
Look at MPS Engineering, it's a dude from germany who swapped a V8 into a GT86/BRZ and turned it into a super light weight, high horse power drift car.
@@chadhanson4369 You just don't get it. It's not about speed, power, economy, or Price. it's just about fun. I've owned fast cars and slow cars, and the slow cars are almost always more fun. You put your foot down in a fast car you end up with a ticket. And tickets are absolutely NOT fun. You put your foot down in a slow car and you can run through the gears and listen to the car. And you can't get a loose rear end in an Accord lol. Edit: My guess is that you haven't owned a car yet.
After a bunch of hours of research, I discovered that for those under 25yr old, the 2019 GT86 is nearly $600/yr less for full coverage insurance than the 2019 BRZ (specifically clean record, drivers ed, etc). There are many possible reasons as to why, but it is still very fascinating, given that they are (essentially) the same car. This is for insurance in N.S. specifically. Not sure about elsewhere.
David Eisener good luck even finding a BRZ here in the U.K, and price to buy is crazy compared with GT86 which as you say essentially the same car and also not sure why. The mind boggles.
Joolz1982 right?! It’s very strange. I’m not sure if @thestraightpipes have ever attempted to contact any insurance companies for theoretical quotes for each car they do, similar to the Continental recommenced tires, but I think it would be interesting! :)
I agree with Jacob and Yuri here. In my experience, the Subaru BRZ's handle slightly more comfortably compared to the Toyota 86, however the BRZ Subaru has the much much better infotainment. The manual BRZ and 86 twins are still marginally more fun than convertible miatas and can seat four people. A Subaru BRZ truly is a budget Porsche 911. If you want more power look at the Nissan 370Z it is awesome too. A Nissan 350z and 370z or any other muscle car will have a great time with the horsepower, but there is a fun aspect of driving affordable 200hp manual cars like the humble Subaru BRZ, Honda Civic Si, and Kia Forte GT/Hyundai Elantra Sport twins.
I work at a Subaru dealership in Service and for the 2013 models of the BRZ along with the Imprezas, Legacies, and Crosstrek had a recall for Valve spring not the valves themselves. Subaru will cover the recall and the oil but not the filter which I recommend just to have them replace it it's like $7 for the filter.
Well, FRS sold more in North America than brz. Hence the fact that more FRS got recalled. But yeah, toyota's mechanics might also be less used to boxer engines..
Beautiful gnarly drift at 2:14...that’s what haters of this car don’t get. You can drive it 100% and it still works with you. It’s not a lumbering v8 that you are scared to toe into cuz it will kill you, which you can never drive at the limit in most situations
I’m the opposite, it would be crazy fun if it’s like 156 torque but get up to 250hp.... it will feel like flying at high rpm but no low end grunt at all. But I guess that’s pretty much like s2k
I have a 2014, it wasn’t subject to the recall and has been wonderful. Stock motor and suspension mods, been autocrossing it since 2014 constantly, great little machine. Get one!!
Ryu is pronounced (ree-you) and translations to a couple different things but among which it translates to fist relating to the fact that ryu is a martial artist
Y'all, great review. I've owned like 1,398 Subaru's and their gearboxes are usually the worst part of the car. It was on my '13 WRX, '15 WRX, and now '19 STI.
The next BRZ is getting a detuned TURBO ASCENT engine from 263hp to 217. Also I'm glad you guys addressed why you don't talk about issues with the cars you test. Sounds like the beginnings of another channel.....
I’ve had my 2013 FRS for almost three years now and I did the recall for the valve springs in the beginning of the year almost 5K miles later no issues at all. Just trying to give some of you future buyers some insight
Always wonder how much of your videos are scripted, love the actual conversations we get in these videos like about Ryu's fireballs such a great channel
I just got the 2016 model with an updated cold air intake, catback and a custom stage 2.. Couldn't be more happy.. Best car ever. But of course that's only my personal opinion. My last car was an Audi a4 and I've mostly been driving BMWs, VWs and Audis, but that one time I drove an Impreza WRX STI blobeye years ago left a mark, I never got over the feeling of a boxer motor. Altho my BRZ is not a turbo or the same motor as that classic STI, I so love the rumble and the rugged driving feel.
You said lifters but the recall is for the valve springs. I have a boosted 2013 FRS. I got my recall notice in the mail, but i'm not acting on it. It's handled boost for 30k miles reliably with track days included, i'm not gonna risk having a tech mess it up. When/if it goes, that just means more upgrades. lol.
Jon Dagata apparently quite rare valve springs do break, but think if they break could be dangerous and a lot to repair, if not taken for recall before.
@@Joolz1982 the dealership wanted to charge me labor to take off my aftermarket turbo kit and parts. That's fair, but if it is going to cost me around $600 in labor (that's what the quote was) to have them put stock valve springs into my motor and have the risk of someone doing it wrong, I may as well save the money and put it toward a full built motor later.
Jon Dagata Yes that sounds crazy. Annoying they charge to take out the turbos when it is their problem regards valve springs. Can see why you are not getting the springs done.
I just sold my 2017 86 this past weekend. Absolutely adored that little thing. I'm an advocate of the low HP, the point is to burn that thing on canyon roads at high RPMs.
You guys could review a Razor scooter and it would be interesting. "The steering is direct and you can really feel the sidewalk beneath you." One of my favorite things is the minimalist design of the handlebars."
@@TheStraightPipes We have the GT version here so you'll notice the wheels light up, the base model scooter doesn't have that. Keep up the awesome work guys! I work from home and RUclips is how I get through the work day, and this channel ranks at the top for me.
BRZ is so much bigger than Miata. Park them next to each other. My son had one and I drove it often as my other car was a GT-R. Never felt the BRZ was too slow
BMW has the same problem with 2nd gear. Reverse is designed to be smoother to get into the faster you go into it and if you try to go into 2nd really quickly, you go past it and it seems like you can't get into second. That lead to me just coasting in the middle of a crossroads, unable to apply power to the wheels a few times before I realised this. Not a comfortable situation when you have traffic coming at you at full speed.
Surprise K brand new heck no, buddy almost bought a 2019 one off the dealer and the sales rep told him just buy the used one with 40k miles on it and use the savings on mods
I own 1/100 of these beauties and it's so freaking amazing... I want more power in my bae tho!!! Nice car recap and I do agree with everything you said from the second that stuck in the R to the mags :3. I didn't know you guys, but you just made a new subs!!! Keep on this!!! (From a frenchy, so sorry about mistakes)
Props for 2:13. You acted just like a go-kart pro, didn't even BREAK YOUR SENTENCE WHILE YOU BROKE TRACTION and then just regained it like nothing had happened
A low key difference between the 86 vs BRZ is the toyota cars are built with Direct and port injection where as the BRZ only has direct injection ""The Toyota direct injection system I described above is referred to as D-4S and it was implemented on the FR-S/BRZ. However you'll note that Subaru had to resort to just direct injection alone on their own new cars, so those engines will experience the same carbon build up as everyone else. The FR-S/BRZ has D-4S and therefore will not." Might have changed in newer generations but as far as I know its still made the same way.
One. More power then torque. But secondly. Give it the na 2.4. It wine lighter and if they can keep the character of the engine the same figure 241 HP and 187 lbft. 20% bump with 20% increase in displacement. Dont know if it works quite like that. But then give it a turbo for around 290 hp and 240 lbft for a higher trim.
@@chadhanson4369 do you even know what your talking about. Nice is subjective. Furthermore Subarus are far more efficient then Jeeps and especially dodge. Dodge doesn't sell to the same market and especially not Jeep either. Subaru doesn't sell a single truck, or any dedicated offroad vehicles. America is the second largest car market behind China. And Americans have this false notion that American made equals good and foreign is bad. And that American made engines especially V8 equals great. The Hellcat motor is some of the most low technology, low quality, crudeness that has ever been made. Somehow it only makes 707 hp on 6.2L that's BOOSTED. That's barely over 100hp/l with BOOST. It has pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder. Overhead cams caught up to pushrods in reliability 30 years ago. Also subaru is a much smaller company with a smaller marketing arm to start with and less dealerships. So they will always sell less.
Well he does go to say after that even by doing that u have a limited number of songs and that he prefers to be surprised by what comes next Me personally I normally enjoy hearing my own playlist but he has a good point
Damn that data plan price tho!! Cheapest unlimited 4g data in Finland is 18€/month, so around 26CAD. Shock of my life🤣 Edit: ps. Great review as always guys!
There's one more new Raiu in North Bay for anyone interested lol, I just traded my 2013 brz in for a 2019 86 GT and am picking it up Friday! This car has to be the most smiles per dollar in existence.
@@TheStraightPipes Not really, it's like if you reviewed cars that had cassette players when the rest of the world had already moved on to CD players. ;) A quick online search and I can only find mentions of satellite radio in Sweden from the mid 2000's.
As someone living in Ontario and from the US, Spotify literally has everything you want from your "Tune Mix". And if you have premium, you can download your songs to your phone and not have to worry about data at all. The only thing you don't get is the DJ talking to you between songs. I have met multiple Canadians who don't use Spotify because of weird little quirks or misconceptions in favor of inferior music services because they want one thing that they didn't know Spotify already offers. You guys should try it out for a few months :)
Shantanu Kulkarni we do, it’s just because we live in North America they’re super available and so are all the parts so it’s very cheap. And they make a lot of power very easily.
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Great explanation of satellite rewinding! I never knew that.
vundizzle tbh they could just download the songs in spotify via wifi before they leave home
lol
vundizzle get the satellite if you wanna see me
Ryu (the guy from street fighter) means Dragon
Raiu = thunder
Don't get confused guys
Raiu (Rah-ee-yoo)
Ryu (Ree-yoo) said as one syllable as kindly pointed out by @tomatodamashi
You beat me to it, but thanks anyways. also thanks @Sanzo
It said 雷雨 in the thumbnail, which means Thunder and Rain
Doesn’t Trueno also mean thunder but in Latin
@@infamousjuan7714 And Levin means Lightning
If the brz had 250 hp and 210 tq I think it would be perfect.
Agreed, they should have put the WRX STI turbo in it...... perfect
@@Al-yc4cn it won't fit since the FA20 has a bottom mounted turbo
I have it with 350hp(300whp) and it's a little too much now lol
@@IPL_VIC it's probably because he prefers low end thrust to top end power if there's a choice of highpower/low torque vs hightorque/low power. You came up with the perfect option that rarely exists.
Well I think if the car has too much power it will loose character I feel if the brz was a 0-60 in 5 secs and had a bit more go juice I would be happy. I don't need it to go crazy just a bit more umpf
“No official launch edition but with a clutch”
YES😎
BASITH PH blew that one
Launch mode
Launch control*
How can people like a comment that fucking has "launch edition" instead of "launch control"... how stupid can u be?
V. N. Because most people noticed the typo but got when he meant.
Had a 2013 and never had an issue. Bought it in Sept 2012 and sold it Jan 2019 with over 140k miles and never had 1 issue. Only replaced the battery
Clutch lasted that long?
I would grind second and fourth gear in mine with 38k miles :(
Issue quite rare apparently but if valve springs break could be very dangerous.
You're the guy who sells their car and is oblivious to all the missed preventative maintenance ("it only needed a battery"). Like no, it needed lots of stuff. Next owner had a blast I'm sure.
The issue was when people went to get the recall fixed. dealership mechanics would butcher the valve spring replacement because it was a 12 hour job and engines would blow a week later. Mine was in the shop for a month.
Owning a BRZ for 9 months now I can say it's the perfect daily driver. Put some decent rubber on it (got Goodyear Eagle F1 225 45 17 atm) and it will handle so damn well. Low center of gravity, perfect driving position, no electronic bullcrap, tons of fun. And you can get 36mpg / 6.5l/100km average out of it. Never expected that.
The reverse plate that prevents the shifter from going into reverse without pulling up the collar is mis-aligned @8:43. It can be adjusted if you remove the shifter boot and center cover. You should not have any issues pulling left all the way to get into first or second.
“I would LS swap the BRZ”
Thanks, I then lost 30 mins of my life as I left your vid to watch folks doing it. :)
I came back to finish your vid though :).
John Anderson stop spamming your muscle car and pick up truck nonsense everywhere, this is pathetic. Again, if you only care about flooring it on the straight then why on earth are you watching a BRZ video anyway... 🙄
@@microsickful Seriously, what's his problem? Like five comments in a row that I've clicked on he's responded with a screed about how ford trucks are better.
@@chadhanson4369 ok anderson we get it you and your damn trucks are faster then a brz chill man this is like the 15th comment ive seen from you
@@chadhanson4369 because I think the brz is actually a great little package. The camaro is disgusting, has a shit interior, and handles like a boat.
can tell this dude only can drive straight line
The recall was only for the 2013 model so just get a 14 and up.
vzda123 Was 2012-2013 recall some 2014 models also affected depends on number plate. Price jumps big time on 2015 model and up. E.g. 2012-2013 10-12grand 2014 and up 15grand plus.
@@Joolz1982
Technically there is no 2012 model. BRZ started as a 2013 MY
Yeah.. mine is 2017 that had zero problem.... what why would buy it at the end of 2019? it already outdated....
@@Joolz1982 frs/brz model 2013 still run 15-18k where I live
@@campkira How is it outdated? I'd still buy a new one if I could afford one 😔
New favorite car channel, thanks for the content boys!
Dude same
The fact that you like cars makes me appreciate you even more. I watched your videos a ton a couple years ago before I stopped playing the game, they were awesome!
"and you know who loves it?"
*"I loves it"*
Sambhav Arora Newfoundlanders loves that part lol trust me we say and have an accent like that, it’s a saying around here too lol
Canadian English for ya
I love my 2019 BRZ RS! I bought it for fun and I haven't been disappointed. Thank you for your earlier BRZ reviews - it helped me make my decision to purchase. Love your channel.
That new POV for cliche corner review is amazing, would love to see more of it on future videos!
I own one of these! It's such a fun car to drive. Your last review of the BRZ is what sold me on the car haha!
@@chadhanson4369 In straight line, yes. Are you sure it is same pleasure to take any truck into a corner?
For other markets, this is "cheap" to insure as well.
I still agree with a turbo, especially that Subaru has lost of engines to choose from :)
@@chadhanson4369 My family has been driving Subaru's since the 80s. This is also my second Subaru personally. I can tell you Subaru's are so much better built than Chevy's and Dodge's. The BRZ is a completely different car than the Camaro and Mustang. I used to work for a GM dealer and my BRZ interior and my old impreza interior was a nice place to be compared to the cheap plastic and rubber that American cars have. Those are pony/muscle cars and the BRZ is a sports car. Some people want to go fast in a straight line, others want to go corner to corner on a twisty road. Different strokes for different folks.
@@chadhanson4369 Just out of curiosity, why Toyota is not on the list? Just coincident or opinion?
I agree with Subbie build quality being low. This is I will avoid S. even though they are cheap in Japan. I most likely will go for Honda Freed - AWD hybrid ;)
Same same man I fuckin love mine
It lacks the power it needs. It’s handling is phenomenal, but because it isn’t accompanied by a whole lot of power it feels a bit lackluster. It honestly doesn’t even need all the much power but it’s just so underwhelming. Does it ruin the car? No. Does it keep you wishing for more? Yes x10. Is it still a fun car? Fuck yeah.
Even after 7 years, people still bring up the objection for “tHiS nEeDs MoRe PoWa”
If this came with more horesepower, the it defeats its purpose of being an affordable sports car. It’s a Tuner car FFS! Meaning it’s a blank canvas for anyone to mod the crap out of it. If you want more power, you have 370’z. The original 86 from the 80’s stood for the same purpose - Affordable fun sports car.
Cham JDM “more power” =/= “unaffordable” Using the 2.4l would have cost nothing incrementally and using the WRX power plant could have been done reasonably as well. Everything that is good about this car would be better with 50-80 more hp and lb-ft. And 370’s are a terrible comparison of old, heavy, wallowing, 2-seat garbage.
"ITs s0 sLOw"
You dont need horsepower to have fun. That's the concept of the brz/gt86 in my opinion
Its not even that slow for what it is.
@@ChevyCamaroIsBetter you're right
I've driven a new one and loved it. I mean I've driven new mustangs and stuff but they don't handle that good to me compared to the brz, civic, miata
Its named after a fking corolla
Peak power isn't my only issue with this car, it's the torque dip from 3,250-4,500 right in the meat of the power band. Having driven most iterations of the Miata (NA, NB & ND) and Mustang (most everything from the 60's to current, save the new GT350), either are better options. I currently drive a (mildly modified) 2006 WRX wagon that destroys a BRZ in every aspect of driving except for driftability in the dry, in the rain and snow my WRX out drifts a BRZ. All of that stated, I know people that have and love BRZs/86s, it's just not the right option for me.
handling is A++
Just got my new 2019 limited BRZ and I am LOVING IT!
Please more face-cam/POV shots when driving! It looks so good
Dude is shooting strings watching you guys.
2:13 scared tf out of me
Same, but also looks so much fun!
I have one of the 100. Absolutely love this car, it is ridiculously fun. Surprised about you comment on the shifter though, mine shifts very smooth and no problem finding the gears quickly. I love the STI short shifter. Great review dudes!!
Rai, in this case, means lightening/thunder. Ryu is a Japanese dragon.
This is why I came to the comments section. thank you.
Ryu also isn’t pronounced as “rai-yu”
^right, it's one syllable. "Ryoo"
Ryu is pronounced Riyu in Japanese. Above correct yes Dragon.
Joolz1982 Ryu and RiYu are different words and are not pronounced the same
227HP should be the base, top LEVEL HP, 275 BOXER TURBO
93remix nah, needs 229.
@@EDHBlvd let's go 4 an even 230HP, my 227 figure came from a base WRX figure from an older model
they don't bother... sport car sale is so low... they just don't bother made the turbo one... since that would conflict with toyota.... and JDM car right now is a trend that you want more? Go do it yourselves kind of thing...
@@chadhanson4369 Man you just love shitting that 16 second lie all over this comment section. And you never respond to anyone calling you on it becasue you can't defend the lie, so silence is your only option.
@@chadhanson4369 I don't think you know anything about cars or trucks
I love dd’ing my 2015 series blue brz. People that want more power just don’t get it.
Not saying that it wouldn’t be fun to have more! But squeezing it dry every time I accelerate makes me love it.
I had a 300hp WRX and I only ran it 100% maybe 10-20% of the time. The BRZ is unique and you can USE the power that it does have more often!
Yuri - Thanks for clearing up the satellite radio thing for us - that was bugging me! Your reasoning makes perfect sense. Keep up the good work fellas.
Bold of you to assume I can buy it.
Why is it so dang expensive new?! Honestly I would just buy an Miata new since it's a bit quicker and lighter. But for used, BRZ manual always.
@@haaxxx9 or get an s2k which probably 2× cheaper, and honestly better.
@@haaxxx9 Miata is small... very small...
@@campkira I'm 5'3 and 20 c:
@@ratedm90 Up here Canada an s2k usually goes for around 25 - 30k. so basically the same price as a new BRZ. Miatas are pretty expensive here too.
2:05 this FOV thing is amazing, keep doing it in all of your videos
The GT86/BRZ are definitely fun to drive cars that are affordable
Sadly, they are not fun to drive.
@@boss4330: Maybe you just don't know how to drive it.
@@a.jennings4664Oh, so there is a special way to drive these cars that makes them fun. Right.
Amazing what excuses the fanbois are coming up with.
@@boss4330 Relatively light, rwd, revs high, low center of gravity, low seating position all that... Maybe you just find fun elsewhere ?
@@boss4330 I have a 146hp 2004 Miata and yes it is fun
I remember watching the regular brz video about a year ago when I owned a automatic 2014 civic and now I do own a Scion FR-S and while it’s not the fastest car I love it and it’s the best thing to drive
I was just looking at the price sheet for the brz on their site and you uploaded the video 🤣
John Anderson Not arguing with your reliability point as I’m not familiar enough; however my own friends who are also mechanics don’t seem to have a problem over any other cars they’ve owned.
For your other points though, to be fair I don’t think anyone is getting this car for quarter mile times..
American cars have come a long way but there aren’t many that handle like a BRZ in its class. And that’s why you get these cars. They’re very fast in the corners.
John Anderson if accelerating in a straight line is all you care about then by all means stay as FAR AWAY as possible from the likes of BRZ/86 and Miata since these cars aren’t built for straight line speed. I traded in my V8 charger for a manual 86 because I wanted to learn how to drive fast on the racetrack and the 86 is the perfect tool for the job. Teaches you so much about car control and gives you so much feedback, but then again you only car about straight line speed and drag racing and all that stuff that hardly require any skills.
John Anderson yes I agree that the BRZ does not seem like it has the best value for the price and interior quality is somewhat cheap. But I feel like that’s the point of this car, a minimalistic lightweight sports car that resembles the classic JDM cars in the late 80s/early 90s. The Kia Stinger is a VERY good car and honestly I was tempted to get one of those used if not for it doesn’t come with a manual option. The thing is if you want more “interior quality” and such it would most likely come in the form of more weight, and the Stjnger is A LOT heavier than the BRZ despite it being not that much bigger.
I never said that the BRZ is fast, because it’s not, not even on the racetrack, well it is through corners if you do it right but you know... it’s more like it teaches you how to drive fast and trains you really well for the fundamentals of racing techniques. Make no mistake I WILL upgrade to something else when I have the money, but for now, my 86 is perfect for what I need. And yes I do go to the track for HPDE events more than 5 times a year. I try to go once every month or so. Will be going again in late October for one last time this year before winter comes.
Hahahaha yes a 450-500 hp 4×4 pick up truck will beat a brz and fiesta st but do you know how many trucks that were ahead of me from red light to red light as soon as we got winding roads I was up their tailpipe then after I was passed them on a sweeping curve I never saw them again as the roads turns left them shaken because they were about to roll over as i didnt even have to hit the brakes by the end of the 5 min. Drive the powerful truck never even saw me again ......fiesta st 20ishk brz 25ishk truck 50k better in a straight line but still not that far ahead few car lengths around turns so many car lengths ahead the truck is a memory. As crazy as it sounds pro race car driver took stock fiesta st vs hellcat and fiesta had best overall track time by granted only a .16 and better consistent time of a tenthish more. And I hear the BRZ gets even better times than the fiesta st
@@chadhanson4369 If only the car taxes weren't among the highest in Finland... Buying a Camaro costs at least three times the price of US.
Another benefit of satellite radio, is you can drive a LONG distance without ever losing signal. There are many places where the only option is a country station and a half-dozen religious stations. With Satellite radio, your stations never change and never drop out.
Spotify is good if you have a playlist downloaded and want to specifically listen to that, but otherwise there are still plenty of areas in the US where cell signal strength/speed drops off HARD outside of a good sized town.
My only issue with satellite radio is that my signal gets blocked by large buildings to the South of my car when driving through cities with even moderately tall buildings (i.e. ~4 stories or taller), or when really close to a building, such as when in the drive thru at Starbucks.
"I'm Yuri!"
"I'm Jakub!"
"And we're goin for a slide!"
Got a 1 of 100 turboed brz in US. Making around 350 on stock internals, everything else has been upgraded, pump cooling, clutch. Got a gtx3076R hks turbo kit. That makes it sounds like a pigeon, fits perfectly with the color and sound!. 22k miles on it currently. Looking to K swap when motor takes a dump, currently sitting on 8-14 psi. Just recently hit 17psi. And no issues had accured from a quite a few pulls. Able to keep up or beat alot of v8's which is not bad at all. Extremely fun car!
Are we all just gonna ignore that close call at 2:13 😮
It's extremely easy to control the gt86.
It's clear he knows what he's doing. That was a nice catch.
They fact you guys are sponsored by continental makes me so happy.
Loved it when Jakub slapped the rear bumper at 12:52 XD
I'm so glad you guys upload in eastern time. I'm in Vancouver but work eastern and need my mid-morning break but you're the only uploaders at this time!
A 2019 car with a manual transmission hell yeah #savethemanuals
Highlighting that your cell phone fits in the console at the same time police are ticketing drivers for having cell phones in their console. I love it
Look at MPS Engineering, it's a dude from germany who swapped a V8 into a GT86/BRZ and turned it into a super light weight, high horse power drift car.
John Anderson Bro, don‘t be THAT guy. Look at the car. Weighs less than the normal BRZ as it‘s completely stripped.
There is no other car that I want more just based on your reviews.
@@chadhanson4369 You just don't get it. It's not about speed, power, economy, or Price. it's just about fun. I've owned fast cars and slow cars, and the slow cars are almost always more fun. You put your foot down in a fast car you end up with a ticket. And tickets are absolutely NOT fun. You put your foot down in a slow car and you can run through the gears and listen to the car.
And you can't get a loose rear end in an Accord lol.
Edit: My guess is that you haven't owned a car yet.
After a bunch of hours of research, I discovered that for those under 25yr old, the 2019 GT86 is nearly $600/yr less for full coverage insurance than the 2019 BRZ (specifically clean record, drivers ed, etc). There are many possible reasons as to why, but it is still very fascinating, given that they are (essentially) the same car.
This is for insurance in N.S. specifically. Not sure about elsewhere.
David Eisener good luck even finding a BRZ here in the U.K, and price to buy is crazy compared with GT86 which as you say essentially the same car and also not sure why. The mind boggles.
Joolz1982 right?! It’s very strange. I’m not sure if @thestraightpipes have ever attempted to contact any insurance companies for theoretical quotes for each car they do, similar to the Continental recommenced tires, but I think it would be interesting! :)
I agree with Jacob and Yuri here. In my experience, the Subaru BRZ's handle slightly more comfortably compared to the Toyota 86, however the BRZ Subaru has the much much better infotainment. The manual BRZ and 86 twins are still marginally more fun than convertible miatas and can seat four people.
A Subaru BRZ truly is a budget Porsche 911. If you want more power look at the Nissan 370Z it is awesome too. A Nissan 350z and 370z or any other muscle car will have a great time with the horsepower, but there is a fun aspect of driving affordable 200hp manual cars like the humble Subaru BRZ, Honda Civic Si, and Kia Forte GT/Hyundai Elantra Sport twins.
You guys are literally driving my brz!! I found your name on the radio bluetooth. Haha. I wanna know how much beating this car got before i bought it
Damn bro u srs?? That's pretty cool
What the hell that’s nuts
Thats pretty cool dude
Their observation about difficult 3-2 downshifts is legit. Double clutching is basically the only way to do it on mine while moving
To put it simply...It's a "driver's car"! Love it! 😊
I work at a Subaru dealership in Service and for the 2013 models of the BRZ along with the Imprezas, Legacies, and Crosstrek had a recall for Valve spring not the valves themselves. Subaru will cover the recall and the oil but not the filter which I recommend just to have them replace it it's like $7 for the filter.
Well, FRS sold more in North America than brz. Hence the fact that more FRS got recalled.
But yeah, toyota's mechanics might also be less used to boxer engines..
"Mechanics"
Beautiful gnarly drift at 2:14...that’s what haters of this car don’t get. You can drive it 100% and it still works with you. It’s not a lumbering v8 that you are scared to toe into cuz it will kill you, which you can never drive at the limit in most situations
Not a horse power bump, just a torque bump. Make it feel quick without it actually being quick.
All the way to an astonishing 156 lb/ft !!
I’m the opposite, it would be crazy fun if it’s like 156 torque but get up to 250hp.... it will feel like flying at high rpm but no low end grunt at all. But I guess that’s pretty much like s2k
I have a 2014, it wasn’t subject to the recall and has been wonderful. Stock motor and suspension mods, been autocrossing it since 2014 constantly, great little machine. Get one!!
Ryu is pronounced (ree-you) and translations to a couple different things but among which it translates to fist relating to the fact that ryu is a martial artist
Ryu in that sense is most accurately translated to “dragon”
@@mynamewasunironicallyyuri973 you'd likely be right
The emotion and the way you guys are so engaging is the best... Second to none!!! Great wrk!!
Thanks
Y'all, great review. I've owned like 1,398 Subaru's and their gearboxes are usually the worst part of the car. It was on my '13 WRX, '15 WRX, and now '19 STI.
John Anderson if you don’t like Subi’s then why don’t you quit watching subi videos?
The next BRZ is getting a detuned TURBO ASCENT engine from 263hp to 217. Also I'm glad you guys addressed why you don't talk about issues with the cars you test. Sounds like the beginnings of another channel.....
雷(Rai)雨(u)
rai means thunder
u means rain
together, thunderstorm
quick japanese lessons for those interested
You're a good man, thank you.
More like Mandarin
I’ve had my 2013 FRS for almost three years now and I did the recall for the valve springs in the beginning of the year almost 5K miles later no issues at all. Just trying to give some of you future buyers some insight
Always wonder how much of your videos are scripted, love the actual conversations we get in these videos like about Ryu's fireballs such a great channel
they had outline...
I just got the 2016 model with an updated cold air intake, catback and a custom stage 2.. Couldn't be more happy.. Best car ever. But of course that's only my personal opinion. My last car was an Audi a4 and I've mostly been driving BMWs, VWs and Audis, but that one time I drove an Impreza WRX STI blobeye years ago left a mark, I never got over the feeling of a boxer motor. Altho my BRZ is not a turbo or the same motor as that classic STI, I so love the rumble and the rugged driving feel.
You said lifters but the recall is for the valve springs.
I have a boosted 2013 FRS. I got my recall notice in the mail, but i'm not acting on it. It's handled boost for 30k miles reliably with track days included, i'm not gonna risk having a tech mess it up.
When/if it goes, that just means more upgrades. lol.
Jon Dagata apparently quite rare valve springs do break, but think if they break could be dangerous and a lot to repair, if not taken for recall before.
@@Joolz1982 the dealership wanted to charge me labor to take off my aftermarket turbo kit and parts. That's fair, but if it is going to cost me around $600 in labor (that's what the quote was) to have them put stock valve springs into my motor and have the risk of someone doing it wrong, I may as well save the money and put it toward a full built motor later.
Jon Dagata Yes that sounds crazy. Annoying they charge to take out the turbos when it is their problem regards valve springs. Can see why you are not getting the springs done.
I just got mine like 3 months ago and I’m still in love with it!
When the Audi S5 downgraded from the V8 to the V6, it lost 20hp.
but gain a lot of mileage how many people buy a s5?
Forced induction V6 probably has a pile more torque below 5,000 rpm.
I just sold my 2017 86 this past weekend. Absolutely adored that little thing. I'm an advocate of the low HP, the point is to burn that thing on canyon roads at high RPMs.
You guys could review a Razor scooter and it would be interesting.
"The steering is direct and you can really feel the sidewalk beneath you."
One of my favorite things is the minimalist design of the handlebars."
Scooter mounted radios and storage
@@TheStraightPipes We have the GT version here so you'll notice the wheels light up, the base model scooter doesn't have that.
Keep up the awesome work guys! I work from home and RUclips is how I get through the work day, and this channel ranks at the top for me.
I just wish the brz,frs, or 86 had more power to them. Most common complaint I know but imagine how fun these things would be stock with like 300hp..
Poor man's Zupra, and quite honestly the more sensible option to avoid a$$pensive BMW maintenance.
BRZ is so much bigger than Miata. Park them next to each other. My son had one and I drove it often as my other car was a GT-R. Never felt the BRZ was too slow
BMW has the same problem with 2nd gear. Reverse is designed to be smoother to get into the faster you go into it and if you try to go into 2nd really quickly, you go past it and it seems like you can't get into second. That lead to me just coasting in the middle of a crossroads, unable to apply power to the wheels a few times before I realised this. Not a comfortable situation when you have traffic coming at you at full speed.
Another great vid guys, but I don't think anyone is "getting a 370Z" these days
Come to the UAE. Quite a few of those here
I've seen a bunch lately. Actually raced one last week
@@Sickwitit18 Great car the 370z
Surprise K brand new heck no, buddy almost bought a 2019 one off the dealer and the sales rep told him just buy the used one with 40k miles on it and use the savings on mods
I still think I would go with a 370Z, 127hp more for the same price as this model
You guys would love my 86! 300whp turbo in a 2800lb car for over 2 years reliably. It's the type of car I'll keep forever.
never took my '13 brz in for the recall and i don't plan to
I loved your explanation of tune mix. Thank you.
2019 BRZ
*video starts*
“205hp”
*leaves video*
thats how much hp my camry has
@@jimme4712 really?
@@93mlo Yeah Toyota is still making ~2.5L NA I4s with ~200HP... I guess it's more reliable...
@雨琛涂 Misses comment at 1:54
Ef Jr horsepower isn't everything...
I own 1/100 of these beauties and it's so freaking amazing... I want more power in my bae tho!!! Nice car recap and I do agree with everything you said from the second that stuck in the R to the mags :3. I didn't know you guys, but you just made a new subs!!! Keep on this!!! (From a frenchy, so sorry about mistakes)
Send us a pic of your brz on Instagram !
Props for 2:13. You acted just like a go-kart pro, didn't even BREAK YOUR SENTENCE WHILE YOU BROKE TRACTION and then just regained it like nothing had happened
I've owned a BRZ going on 5 years now. Should, god forbid, something happen to it.. I'll go straight out and buy another.
A low key difference between the 86 vs BRZ is the toyota cars are built with Direct and port injection where as the BRZ only has direct injection ""The Toyota direct injection system I described above is referred to as D-4S and it was implemented on the FR-S/BRZ. However you'll note that Subaru had to resort to just direct injection alone on their own new cars, so those engines will experience the same carbon build up as everyone else. The FR-S/BRZ has D-4S and therefore will not."
Might have changed in newer generations but as far as I know its still made the same way.
Subaru should put in the new 2.4 turbo from the ascent and outback. 260 HP and 277 lb ft of torque at 2000 rpm would be great!
One. More power then torque. But secondly. Give it the na 2.4. It wine lighter and if they can keep the character of the engine the same figure 241 HP and 187 lbft. 20% bump with 20% increase in displacement. Dont know if it works quite like that. But then give it a turbo for around 290 hp and 240 lbft for a higher trim.
@@chadhanson4369 do you even know what your talking about. Nice is subjective. Furthermore Subarus are far more efficient then Jeeps and especially dodge. Dodge doesn't sell to the same market and especially not Jeep either. Subaru doesn't sell a single truck, or any dedicated offroad vehicles. America is the second largest car market behind China. And Americans have this false notion that American made equals good and foreign is bad. And that American made engines especially V8 equals great. The Hellcat motor is some of the most low technology, low quality, crudeness that has ever been made. Somehow it only makes 707 hp on 6.2L that's BOOSTED. That's barely over 100hp/l with BOOST. It has pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder. Overhead cams caught up to pushrods in reliability 30 years ago. Also subaru is a much smaller company with a smaller marketing arm to start with and less dealerships. So they will always sell less.
Toyota would let them... if//....
The Track Traction button also allows you to go more sideways with the steering, take corners slightly harder.
*Doubt*
@@TheStraightPipes try it whenever you can, I guarantee you'll feel it
But the traction off will let you get more sideways than track
Basically you can use spotify without using your data becaise you can download your music by wifi and use the offline mode on spotify
Well he does go to say after that even by doing that u have a limited number of songs and that he prefers to be surprised by what comes next
Me personally I normally enjoy hearing my own playlist but he has a good point
1:45 you guys gotta bring back this pov view of cliche corner! Looks so intense from that perspective
Damn that data plan price tho!! Cheapest unlimited 4g data in Finland is 18€/month, so around 26CAD.
Shock of my life🤣
Edit: ps. Great review as always guys!
That Toyota/Porsche concept was so cool!
I miss my FRS so bad, thanks guys...
what happened to yours? someone tboned me last month the day after my son was born ....
Sorry to hear that, I am glad you are okay though🙏🏽🖤
Absolutely love my BRZ. Header with tune and it’s perfect. Power you can use everywhere. It’s a complete joy to drive every time.
Everything new added to the Raiu Edition
Splitter
Spoiler
Clutch
There's one more new Raiu in North Bay for anyone interested lol, I just traded my 2013 brz in for a 2019 86 GT and am picking it up Friday! This car has to be the most smiles per dollar in existence.
“This is a really nice interior” best joke in the video lmao
gillan64 yo momma
what else does one need in a back to the roots sports car
me : as long there is a CD player, i am fine, and if it can play MP3 that's a bonus
2:19 scared me for a sec lol
I just want you to know that I love your reviews /in spite of/ all the talk about satellite radio. :)
It’s like if we reviewed cars in the 90s and didn’t talk about rewinding buttons on cassette players
@@TheStraightPipes Not really, it's like if you reviewed cars that had cassette players when the rest of the world had already moved on to CD players. ;) A quick online search and I can only find mentions of satellite radio in Sweden from the mid 2000's.
2019 jimny as a city daily car not the offroad stuff we all know it’s amazing off-road
Just picked up a 2019 BRZ two weeks ago! I love it! Great review guys!
Great looking car! I hate the facelifted bumper that Toyota made. This looks so much better
I always thought that Toyota ruined this cars great looks!
That POV view was great, you should do it more often with cars like this.
Can you guys review the Corolla 2020 hatchback manual with the adaptive cruise control and in the blue color
I swear the BRZ/FRS body is jus made for a targa roof. I truly hope one day they do It. I’d definitely buy one
Toyota replaced my engine in my FRS after my engine blew from the recall.
It’s exciting to see the Americas get special Subaru cars. I would like this trend to continue but we’ll have to see what the future holds.
How many people checked their headphones at the intro 😅
Why? I didn't.
@@TheDennys21 The sound was only coming out of one side, I guess the song they chose has a 3d audio effect for the intro
As someone living in Ontario and from the US, Spotify literally has everything you want from your "Tune Mix". And if you have premium, you can download your songs to your phone and not have to worry about data at all. The only thing you don't get is the DJ talking to you between songs. I have met multiple Canadians who don't use Spotify because of weird little quirks or misconceptions in favor of inferior music services because they want one thing that they didn't know Spotify already offers.
You guys should try it out for a few months :)
Are there no other engines than the LS that north American people know of?
Shantanu Kulkarni we do, it’s just because we live in North America they’re super available and so are all the parts so it’s very cheap. And they make a lot of power very easily.
I think a rotary swap would be cool. Expensive and not that reliable but cool.
I think the weight of the LS would kill the soul/balance of the BRZ. Rather see it with a turbo or an S2000.... hmmm.
LS engines might be great but I don't know why, anyone who says LS SWAP just kills the conversation for me 😂