DPReview TV: Sony a7R IV Review
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2019
- Chris and Jordan pay a visit to friend and studio photographer Rene Michaud to test out the Sony a7R IV. Is it compelling enough to tempt a staunch DSLR shooter to switch to mirrorless? And do Canadians wear parkas indoors during the winter? These questions and more will be answered.
Special thanks to Rene Michaud (www.photobliss.com, Insta: renejm) and Brooke Crowdis (Insta: brookecrowdis & bloomcosmotology)
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I find your reviews to be both both informative and entertaining which doubles my interest.
8:02 - The "Why did I sign up for this" look 🤣
Thank you Chris and Jordan. Nice review!
Sony will add ‘Eyes covered by fur AF’ in the next version’ probably even a firmware update for the A7riv.
Yup. The critics have hit a brick wall at this point. "Oh, your Eye AF can't focus on an eye covered by something? It's trash". -____-
In the next Furwear update
You can always add size with a vertical battery grip. Ergos are greatly improved with it plus a couple extra batteries there. But when you need to be travel friendly and compact as possible, you have that option and it’s hard to beat. That much power in that compact size.
The Sony A7r4 changed my opinion about Sony completely. I use this camera 90% for wildlife and here it really shines. On the Sony 600mm 4.0 GM I get in APS-C Mode effectively 900mm at f/4.0 and this at 27MP. You program the function ring on the GM lens and switch then easily between Full Frame and APS-C Mode. Excellent for Wildlife, super flexible. And this equipped with an Autofocus which is not as on the A9 but close. Not to forget a buffer of 68 RAW files at 61 MP. Yes, with the Sony A7r4, Sony really delivered a great product. I am deeply impressed and move now from Canon to Sony. Cheers!
On a advertising, they said "Sony, the pro's choice" !
Great review . Kudos all around.
Nice Video THX. I just got the RIV a couple of days ago and I feel this video is a good representation of the camera. If you still like a bigger grip add the vertical grip that makes it a massive combination.
I've used mine heavily since I picked it up last month on travels (birds, night scenes, streets) and I love it, it absolutely handles and focuses well once you set it up and understand its ins and outs. However, potential buyers really need to take note that this is really not a casual use snap and go camera. Yes, storage is cheap, but 60MP adds up extremely fast. Upgrading to the A7R4 also means upgrading to higher capacity UHS1/2 SD cards, upgrading to a better computer if you don't already have one, and buying tons of hard disks. Two things I would really have liked to see were lower res options (30 and 40MP sound great) as well as the top left drive/AF mode dial as seen on the A9, which I find myself missing.
So what would you recommend for a casual use snap camera?
these two 2 in a million love you guys always puts a smile when i watch you guys
Chris, I like your excitement about the arctic winter :)
most enjoyable content on camera is always on DPReview
Late to this video, and great review (informative and entertaining) - and a quick question: would a medium raw file be able to be addressed by Sony in a firmware upgrade, or is this something that has to be hardware only?
Another very excellent review. Well done! I do agree that the body is rather small. I would prefer it to be a bit larger as this would give more space for larger buttons and even a bigger battery.
Nice to see more and more people requesting a smaller raw output format, if everyone keeps asking for it, it will come!
Very interesting review. Well done
OMG it's already snowing on your side of the country! hope we have a few more weeks before winter here (Montreal)
That one moment when Jordan revealed his feelings for Chris, and just got ignored completely. How cruel 😂
revisit with the r5 or r3 when that comes out?
Love the gfx100 and he a7r4 review with rene
Great work Chris and Jordon
best reviewers on youtube !!!!
2:55
does your canon slr do face detect?
no
does your canon slr do eye detect?
no
does your canon slr keep you warm at night?
doesn't do any of those
subtle but i laughed ;D
His Canon DSLR does do face detection in live view.
@@cooloox for f 8 face detect is OK
for f 1.8 eye detect is a must if you want the eye really sharp
else you have to "spray and pray" like in sports photography
Especially at such high resolutions
face detect and eye detect is NOT a NEED,it;s a want...real shooters can shoot with almost anything and rock..
I’ve been shooting a 5D3 for the last three or four years and would love me some SONY eye detect.
A large part of my work is outlined in post so I could also use all those extra pixels.
Detecting a face is great but, if the the color of Brooke’s face is indicative of the SONY sensor??????
Has anyone used X-rite with SONY? And is that a relatively easy fix - or is the Sony skin tone it’s fatal flaw?
@@RickMoreau there were many videos comparing Sony colors with others, on this channel as well. Generally, Capture One gives better colors than Lightroom, and colors are very accurate for latest generation of cameras. If you want Canon yellow tint you can edit RAWs to your taste.
HI can I ask what specs you need in a laptop using lightroom photoshop with the Sony a7r4?
I have a laptop I was just wondering what are the requirements as far as having a computer to run for the sony a7r 4 camera, because I will only be shooting raw.
How is the weather sealing on this? I have the a7iii and I do not trust using it even in a mist let alone a day where it might rain outside. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
The low light performance is interesting because you can probably crank the hell out of noise reduction and the loss of details will be offset by the very high resolution.
when is the a7iv coming
Very nice ! So in short I’m coming from a A99. And A99II. I have had my A99 for a long time now . It fits my fat fingers and Bulbous thumb well . My question is . When you put the lens adapter on it. Using a Sony a mount lens. how well does it function.
In your opinion, is it possible for a standard zoom lens like the 24-70 2.8 GM to fully display the 60 Megapixels of the a7R IV?
Very curious to hear your opinion on mechanical shutter with strobe? Not loving it on the a9....but supposed to be better on a9ii.?.
Thanks for a really good review, but Chris why didn't you suggest Rene Michaud a battery grip for the Sony A7III since he wants a bigger Sony camera so he can use the camera for his work?
Greetings from Denmark
He said built in
Anyone notice the weird clarity slider ghosting around hard edges when boosting those underexposed shots? Looks impressive at first, but there's a lot to correct in post
Great camera for everything! I wish Sony add the full articulated display on the side like the ZV-1 camera.
Don't really get it what you're saying about the "shadow boost" at 8:01 ? What is difference between A7RIII
vs A7RIV ?
I am sooo tempted to get the a7riv... Getting tired of waiting for the a7siii
A7R4 & A92 I love them both :)
Michael Pierce ... yes, it is a perfect combo for Sony-shooter ... 👍
How was the battery life in the cold weather? I normally use canon but I also have a sony RX 100 but the battery are not working when it gets below freezing point. So would be interesting how the camera does in harsh cold conditions.
Yes thats why i sold a73 and bought eos r. First skin tone and second i m reloating to north dakota and dont want my sony camera to die thre lol
@@anoophcl The A7 III has nearly twice the battery life as the EOS R. And superior skin tone/Canon "colors" are a myth. You can change the look in post to match Canon, or use the superior colors of Sony, as tested in more than one blind taste test. Either way, better buy some extra batteries for the EOS R now...
@@anoophcl sony a7iii actually has better battery life than Eos R ;)
How would the af tracking on this compare to the D850 or D500? Is real time tracking on the Sony as reliable as 3d tracking for sports? Can the Sony pick up and track wildlife in dim conditions against tricky backgrounds as well as the D500?
Great review as always... lumix s1 user here, what would be perfect is the af of the a7r4 in the s1/r body... that would be awesome
What's the best camera you have tested for aiming up and looking at the stars
Great info!
Im using a7m2 for a year now after selling my d800e. im thinking to get a7r2 since i missed the high megapixel fx camera. should i get it or better wait spent a7r3? or a7m3 is enough? thanks!
Minimal changes for A7R III compare to A7R II.
March 2021 and still waiting for the a7iv, I just got the a7riv for $2650 EDU B&H special.
The GH5 is back as your tool?!? I wonder, the footage of the Lumix S1H to me looked not as good as it was supposed to be. My guess, focussing with the larger sensor is harder. As I daresay big sensor formats like the one of the Alexa 65 push Hollywood towards wider views. Anybody has thoughts to share????
Rene just buy the grip. I doesn't have to be integrated . That leaves folks no choice if they need it or not with that extra weight and bulk.
Gerald Williams it will still have the buttons were and how he don’t like it, and I guess his Canon I s good enough and he can wait to see how much he market looks on 6 months.
Does the a7r4 have any evf lag issues or degrading when using in studio and the image preview is turned off...so basically using like an optical, my lumix s1r is almost unusable in these situations so looking to shift over to the a7r4, form what I can see in your video it has none of this, or surely Rene would have mentioned it ?
After getting my hands on this in store, I have to agree, I really love the buttons other than the weird nuances that you mentioned. All of my comments about the buttons from the A7III being too mushy and hoping for the buttons to feel like the 'Record' button, have been addressed. All the buttons feel really nice and tactile. I just don't understand the two different locking mechanisms on those dials and that threw me off at first. Otherwise, I think this is more of the good stuff and even better feel. Even the battery door and side I/O panels feel really great.
A little late to the party...but to answer your question, the non-lockable button on the mode dial presupposes that no one wishes to risk accidently changing the mode while shooting a professional event. The clickable lock button on the compensation dial is to allow those who use compensation regularly to do so without having to press a button, while permitting those that don't to lockout the dial altogether (e.g. manual shooters who like to control shutter speed, aperture, and ISO). Personally, I could do without both of these locable buttons. In fact, I think the compensation dial should not as hard to turn as it is, while I wouldn't mind a harder mode dial if it meant getting rid of the dreaded lock button.
Hi I have a 950gb laptop i7 with a standard amd radeon graphics card. Is this good enough for a sony a7r 4 camera?
Please address the buffer...what happens during a sports shoot--how many shots before it's full and does the camera stop working or restrict certain functions?
Here's a question: I'm a Nikon DSLR guy shooting mostly landscape and wildlife. I'm considering getting a mirrorless camera but not sure if I go Nikon Z7 II or SONY 7R IV and what would be the most versatile lens to get for this genre of photography + finally which adapter do I buy for the many Nikon FX lenses I have?
I've been shooting with an A7RIV for a couple of weeks now and it's been a ton of fun to use for nature and street/city photography. I've really enjoyed the incredible autofocus, better handling, and ability to crop like crazy :D
AGREE
How is your computer capacity?
@@gosman949 Storage space is cheap. 4TB drives come in at $100 or less. Even high capacity SD cards are cheap these days.
I bought the camera when it was released. I just took a moon picture on the 70 -300mm, and i was able to crop in and see so much detail. I cant image what a 600mm would look like.
I bought the sony 90mm macro and its fantastic on this camera. I love this camera. I did upgrade my computer ram to 64 gig and it does so much better and lightroom does great on that much ram..
Has anyone compared the a7r IV to the z7 (extensively)? I am still on the fence as to which one to buy and why. I'm an enthusiast likely to shoot with primes mostly, for street, portrait and landscapes. Also, thoughts on the z lenses compared to the Zeiss lenses for Sony re: quality and sharpness. Thank you - Cheers.
Nice video again shame Sony don’t just lower their prices - some hopes I suppose. There will never be the perfect camera there will always be something the Company’s won’t include on the next production. Comment on the eye focus on Jordan he looked as though he had just been told a sad story😂 always enjoy your videos though Chris and Jordan thank you both. Very informative as always.
FWIW I do not want a larger camera. The A7R4 is about the perfect size for me.
will it be too slow to run big files?
The camera is fine. People will always complain about something, but it's a proper pro body. Only legit gripe is the pseudo touch screen. But if I needed a high resolution body, as of Nov 2019, that's the one to buy.
talking about small grip - I think this is advantage of this cameras - you can always add battery grip
I finally got my hands on this camera in a store and the bigger grip is very noticeable. I mean, my hands aren't tiny but they're average, I think. The grip feels great, if not a bit bulky. I think That it's probably the limit as to what would make me comfortable at this point, after having using mirrorless for a while now.
akoredon agreed. You can always make a Sony feel bigger with a grip. Can’t make a Panasonic feel smaller.
@@cl3826 why would i want to make a camera feel smaller and less comfortable ?
just to store it better ?
Isnt the Lens the bigger part anyways?
Did you ever hold a d850 and used it ?
thats what i call a "full" camera.
@Mr Tech What are you talking about.... the grip has controls. I don't think you've actually tried it.
@@drakedoggy103 smaller doesn't mean less comfortable. Smaller means it is comfortable for many of us. If you want a bigger grip, just add a bigger grip.
Jordan. 2:02 No more MogoPod, for quite a while now, eh. Feet too big? I've actually been shooting Hi Res Mode successfully from the Mogo with a 10 second delay because of those big feet - and of course thanks to your recommendation.
OMG snowing. Snows, what, 11 months of the year? Canadian lingerie, hilarious.
Seriously, excellent photos, gentlemen.
you can get eos R mark 2, after A7 mark 6 release.
Do you need a adapter for that lens? Zeiss on the Sony A7R ||||
Great to see Zeiss Batis 85, this is my favorite lens for Sony A7 cameras
Nice one
Ancient SLR experience ^^ hits it on the head!
0:44 thats the same look Jordan gives Chris
... why does the guy not use the battery grip if the camera is too small for him? was the grip not available at the time of shooting?
It's also rhe depth of the regular grip. If you have big hands, you hold the camera only with your fingers. If you then have heavy glas on it, it feels stupid.
weizenobst müsli ... oh yes, it’s sooooo stupid! 😅😅😅😅😅
I know it's unlikely, but based on megapixel amount not sensor size, a comparison between this and the GFX50 (even though it's Fuji's older version) would be interesting i think?
You can always beef the body up with battery grip but you cannot remove the large size body into smaller when needed. Upgrading from the first a7 which is really fit my hand and weight to a7iii which is substantially heavier in my hand than the first one. I know they have to make the grip bigger to accommodate the Z battery but the grip is kinda big, at least bigger than my right hand. Not to the point of uncomfortable dslr grip size though.
How does this camera do at concerts?
Why do Sony Alphas NOT have lossless compressed, especially now with 61MP...? It reduces file size about 40%.
It saves money. For example, buying 64GB vs 128GB cards and 5TB vs 10TB archive hard drives. Less time waiting to transfer images. Slower computers more usable for editing.
I use my A7R4 exclusively for wildlife/macro photography and it is fantastic. Cropping with the 61MP produces beautifully detailed shots when compared to 24MP: and the AF is both very fast and accurate. Tracking works really well for birds and dragonflies in flight and I am not missing my A9 in that regard. The AnimalEyeAF is remarkable. It locked on the the eyes of a fox at 45 metres and 48 metres, even though in the latter shot the fox was partially obscured by a bush. I currently use my A7R4 with a Sony 200 - 600mm and a Sony 90mm macro and have no complaints. I will also be using it with a 100 - 400mm G Master in the near future. I prefer the A7R4 to both the A9 and A7III, marvellous though they are.
Yeah, I'm just discovering the wonders of combining my new a7riv with the 200-600 and then cropping like crazy. K used to put an a6400 on to get a 24mp shot with a 1.5x crop but now the a7riv gives me even more resolution
@@AdamMuise what a waste of megapixels otherwise.
I use my a7r4 more for wild life then the a9 for the same reason because of the crop factor.
I am using it for the same thing. I just took a moon picture on the 70 -300mm, and i was able to crop in and see so much detail. I cant image what a 600mm would look like.
I bought the sony 90mm macro and its fantastic on this camera. I love this camera.
The out side shot of the camera on the tripod at the industrial site looks odd. The tripod looks like its moving on the kerb !!
I need to move to Canada, nice people great weather. Im in Australia its early spring we are already nearly pushing 40 C that sucks. I reckon this year we will regularly push 45+ maybe might hit 50, feck that.
Be careful what you wish for. Alberta is like -100°F for 10 months of the year. That cold goes right to your joints. Believe me. Michigander.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 l have noticed that your summer seems to last about three days.
@@peterlemke3468 In Sacramento now. Summers last from April to October. Hotter than hell, too. 108°F not uncommon.
Switch to canon or nikon because sony sucks in cold weather
Come to Toronto, best of both worlds.
Add a battery grip. Problem solved. Did it for me just fine with the a7riii in terns of handling
Sony should make a really huge battery grip for people who are overcompensating.
@@AmitZinmanVideo Some people have large hands or prefer the ergonomics of a bigger camera. Nothing wrong with that.
I love my a7r3 with the grip attached. Fits awesome in the hands. I find myself a little underwhelmed with the ergonomics of the a7r3 without the grip. It is nice though when I take the grip off and the camera is small again. But when I attach the grip, I fall in love all over again. Big hands here... you know what they say about big hands? Dudes with big hands need grips for their small cameras!
Do you think Rene would have like it more if you had added the battery grip, since that was his main dislike?
I hope everyone has someone in their life that looks at them the same way Chris looks At Rene in the video's thumbnail.
Hi DPReview could you try to do a photogroup from your team in 240 mpx? Will it work? Can 240 mpx photograph a human even if he or she tried as their best to be still?
so i think this video as well as many other videos shows that they LOVE the GH5.
This might be a niche question...but,
what camera lens combo would be best for OBS live-streaming ?
A6400 has great autofocus and continuous recording at s good price. As for lens that really depends on the size of your room and how far you'll sit from the camera.
@@kingsamvisuals
Thanks Kingsam~!
I sit a little over arms length, and my office is about 12x12. I'd like a depth of field that'd keeps me in focus but can allow me to blur out the background :)
@@ashurgeorge4604 maybe the sigma 16mm 1.4dc dn
@@kingsamvisuals Awesome :)
I'll look into it
Don't really get it what you're saying about the shadow boost at 8:01. Is it something like the Pixel's low light mode? Will be great if you can dedicate a video on the a7R IV's shadow boost feature!
They just mean that the relatively low noise levels of the sensor mean you can massively underexpose a shot, and then boost the exposure in your RAW converter, without taking a major noise hit. That isn't the case with old sensors, and still isn't the case with some new(ish) sensors - Canon 6D mk2 I'm looking at you!
@@Penguins247 Ah I see - better dynamic range. So it's the usual ramping up of shadow area details during post processing. I thought he meant the camera can do it automatically
What about "shadow boost" in SONY A7R III it works that same or only in A7RIV boost work great ?
Amazing review
Whole year later still ain’t get it yet 😩 a7r3 doing the job
Love the little intro.
I can’t believe somebody actually wants the size of the Canon. Of course the guy is the size of the Hulk. (But so am I, except for the muscles, and I like compact cameras.)
I've worked with both Canon 5D3 and Sony A73 bodies and prefer the size of the Canons WITH battery grips, mind you. The Sony bodies are terribly balanced with a 24-70mm GM lens and the grip is just absolutely tiny + uncomfortable. Ergonomics all the way, especially for long days of shooting.
Super video 📸🎉😊
Love that lens choice!!
in tel aviv we have +30 Celsius in the last days :)
The Sony α7R IV is very expensive in comparison to the initial price of first generation of the Sony α7 series.
I hope it's price will drop soon.
In theory for using photos on internet, 8 to 12 megapixels are enough. But for cropping and general digital image processing more megapixels from larger image sensors are always welcomed.
Thanks for the review. Boosting in low light poor Jordan looked like a plastic doll. That was not good. The 6400 iso he looked much more natural. I think an updated sensor/processor and body in the A7III will be fantastic.
This would be the perfect camera for wedding and portrait professionals if only it had options to change raw files to maybe 36mp and a 24mp file size. it also could be really be a bit wider so it can be more comfortable in the hands. What would really be nice is an articulating screen for those low portraits, I hear the video people complaining about that but we photographers need the flippy screen also.
"I heard that!" Great intro, guys.
Come on Nikon! I’m waiting for that Z9
When Sony α9 was released it seemed to me very expensive. However the price of the Sony a7R IV isn't very high for a 60 MP camera. More megapixels with sharp lenses are always welcomed.
If you can drop 10k on a system..
weizenobst müsli Indeed the holy trinity of zoom lenses with the Sony a7R IV costs around 10.000$.
@@AgnostosGnostos , and you need the expensive glas that has enough resolution for the sensor. Otherwise its wasted potential :-D
Taking notes 📝
For me, 35 to 40 mpix is the sweet spot for a camera. I don’t need that 60+ most of the time and the file sizes are insane.
I want to upgrade from my a7rii, but the a7iii is too much of a step back, and this is just too much. Help me out here, Sony.
What’s the green camera bag?
It's a Manfrotto bag
I have an A7III and an A7RIII. The difference is I can crop in a bit more with the R model but otherwise I can rarely tell the difference visually. The biggest difference is the file sizes. My software that can stack and process photos can really get bogged down with the A7RIII files. The A7III files just seem to take no time at all. I use my MacBook Pro with a lot of ram and i9 processors but the A7RIII files can still stall depending on the software. Imagine what A7RIV files will do to my post processing. I guess I would have to say no to the newest Sony full frame camera until I can afford a quantum laptop.
I have a sense of feeling that we're getting a A7IV, maybe with the release of A7Siii.
Keep guessing
I add a half case to have a slightly better grip
A camera designed to reel in the pixel peepers, that being the case what the man said about switching if Sony made their bodies bigger is very true.
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