What If We had A Mario Kart Maker?!
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- We have Mario Maker, we have Mario Maker 2, but what would a Mario Kart Maker look like and how would it play? Today, I am going to dig into this idea and show just how amazing this game concept can be!
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the thing with mario maker is that all of those mario games share a lot of similarities just with different graphics, mario kart on the other hand has very complex scenarios and would need a lot of things to even remotely do something similar to the actual MK
The modding community shows quite well how extremely difficult it is to make a good track. 99% of custom tracks are absolute grabage, boring to play at best. There are a few masterpieces, but those are the very rare exeptions.
The flood of catastrophic mario maker levels is already immense and the good levels are scarce. And there it is exponentially easier to create good levels.
Those track makers are a cool idea, but not feasible in practice in a way that we would expect. All games that featured them never offered good custom made tracks. The only thing those tracks were good for, are quick time trial sessions against other ghost players, but not for a real race session like we woulc expect on Mario Kart.
All the good mario kart custom tracks were made using highly complicated developer tools and software, with features that a stage builder designed for 3 year olds could never offer or even compare to.
Not that making racing tracks by consumers is impossible, but making good ones definitely is with the limitations the software would need to have to make a good, beginner friendly user experience.
I see it just like you.
@ I completely agree. With seeing how much trash was made in Mario maker, which is much easier than a Maria kart maker would be, there’d be about 1,000 bad tracks for one single good track. It’s just not a good idea
I think it would work like LittleBIGPlanet Karting where you can make a track with a tool and go up, down, and sideways.
Exactly, it's too intricate to be an imitator of smm. We all saw how complicated the sm64 maker fan project was. It's likely going to be a simple track creator like with existing ones rather than what was initially in mind.
@@fbm6573 that's an understatement. Track design is far more difficult, it's gonna be at least 1 good for every 50k bad ones, and remember, this estimate is a floor, not a ceiling for how bad this ratio can become
Nintendo, hire this man.
Well he has to tweet at them and then go to their HQ for an interview and has to be lucky to get in
@@TheSpeedfoever yeah and Nintendo probably won’t hire him bc he’s a yt anyways
Im a worker from nintendo and hes hired
Yes
@@dylanmatiashernandezv.2195 there no way you work for Nintendo
LittleBigPlanet Karting had a track creator mode as well, and I think this idea could adopt the system that that game used.
Agreed
That's what I was going to say-
I love little big planet karting | and the 3 original games as well alongside a big adventure
@@m1d45r3x man is speaking fax
@@m1d45r3x saaaame i had all games on the ps3
Trackmania is a huge success. Also fans were making Mario levels, Nintendo saw the market -- and we got Super Mario Maker games. Hopefully something like that is already in the works.
Sadly Nintendo's creation didn't have nearly enough features the fan made ones have, like Smashy for example is already adding more features in a shorter time than Nintendo.
I want to hire Nin10doland because he's speaking FACTS
For the track building elements, I say they should take a piece out of LBP Karting’s book and allow the player to unroll the road and be able to chance the roads shape and size as you go, being able to widen the track in certain spots, make them more narrow, Curl them inward to make a half pipe, Divide the paths into a split path, Add and Remove Guard Rails to preferred sides of the track, Add Bumps in the certain of the track to trick off of and in the 8 Deluxe Style, be able to use the triggers to warp the track to different angles or create side walls to use the antigravity on.
Then when you have a lay out, you can decorate the track with background terrain, Setpieces, and obstacles, you could also be able to place different types of textures on the ground that have different properties, like Dirt, Grass, Sand and Pools of Water, Lava, Poison or Quicksand.
I had this idea for a long while, and I’m so glad that other people are realizing this great idea!! 🏎️🏎️🏁
I’ve thought about mariomakers for many game series the whole idea has so much potential
@@nintendohub64 true, you could make any track you want with any style. I honestly think this would be better than Mario Maker 3.
@@balls.gaming. yeah I’d take MARIOKART maker over Mariomaker 3 anyday
@@nintendohub64 if Nintendo doesn’t release this I’m going to be sad.
Same
Mario Kart Tour shows how a Mario Kart Maker would work. I don’t care if it’s a top down maker, I don’t care if it’s limited at first, *JUST PLEASE GIVE US ONE AT SOME POINT.* I get it, the RC one exists, but who has the space in their home? With pets and people with apartments it’s very difficult to use the real life maker.
Please Nintendo, as someone who spends *hours* in maker games. Please give us one at some point.
Really like some ideas here so i thought i'd share some of my own:
Track Templates: Several original mariokart tracks can be used to showcase how different aspects work, for example mushroom gorge could be one so people learn about how to use mushrooms in tracks ect
More themes: I feel like some themes were missed out, especially city tracks like Tour tracks or Moonview highway or mushroom city, as well as beach tracks that arent based on underwater
Item modes: I feel like for certain things there should be an item that you can place that switches you, like the SMB2 mushroom or SML flower. Some of these could include: double dash (automatically picks the character's partner), Mariokart Wii Wheeling on bikes, Old drifting from games like MKDD and MKDS, etc. I feel this would be less prominent in the retro themes but good in the 3D theme
Awesome game idea!
I’m excited to race on Unfair Kaizo tracks!
And recreate Racing games tracks.
Don't get excited
if this game ever comes out, i can't wait to see all the impossible kaizo levels people are gonna throw at Dashie
“What if we had a Mariokart maker?” Bro that’s what I’ve been saying since Mario maker 2 came out
Lol same
Dudes literally got a full library of ideas
I’ve wanted this for SO LONG, Nintendo PLEASE watch this!
I really thought about this concept and think it is smart to start much more limited. Just have the different selectable themes be the themes you have in SNES Mario Kart and omit any SNES track of being a retro track. Also only to have it in the style of the current game (so MK8/9). Other than that you could be very free with everything like placing water, lava, anti-gravity, paragliding, cannons, enemies, pipes, oil slips etc etc
The amount of coconut mall levels people would make…
Coconut Mall 2, 3, etc, or people would probably make extremely insane and chaotic versions of Coconut Mall...
@@ericgrasso3066 Like they did with Luigi Circuit from Mario Kart Wii.
Still funny trying to beat the track with too many pipes on the road 🤣
It would probably become the Mario kart maker equivalent to 1-1
@@trendygaming795Either that or a billion different Mario Circuits
I think that your themes were cool, but imagine a custom theme with all the assets! And customers sprites! Obviously, these would need extra moderation, but it would be so cool!
We need this now
Yeah! I love this idea! 0:01 I hope Nintendo is going to do it!!!!!!!!!!
Might wanna save something this big and spectacular like this for our 40th anniversary, which is in 2 years
The fact that Nintendo hasn't made a Mariokart Maker yet baffles me.
YES!! I’ve been thinking about this since 2015
Another theme we need: City theme.
Several Mario Kart tracks take place in a city, most notably New York Minute.
True. And there are so many city tracks, which are really cool but hard to play.
Mushroom City, Moonview Highway, to name two.
Making your own would be really cool.
While this all sounds great, I think one big thing about Mario Kart is how varied and unique set pieces, themes and music are. Maybe to go along with the track creator, you could have a modeling tool to create certain pieces and customize your track to what you envision. You could really detail your set pieces and change colours, add textures, etc. Along with this, it might be cool to be able to combine themes, like a city and beach for Coconut Mall or a mountain and plains for Shroom Ridge. Finally it would be awesome to be able to create your own music, or use existing music, with a simple music editor, GarageBand style. These are the things that really make the good tracks, and it would be a great change from just generic grass, desert, and snow themes
It wont work since they did planned to have a channel based on the idea in the Wii when Mario Kart Wii was revealed or something like that but it was scrapped due to either time constraints OR to much memory because of the 3D models and the Item customization is the closest maker we ever going to get in a Mario Kart title.
I really hope Nintendo sees this and gets the hint
I’ve had this idea for 6 years!
I would take this as the next Mario Kart game over 9! 🏎️
Seeing this idea become publicly wanted gives me hope!
Infinite Mario Kart tracks, making my favourite video game of all time even more infinitely replayable than it already is? Dude I would pop off so hard if they announced this.
Imagine an announcement trailer where it just looks like a regular race and then all the racers hit a wall and then the Mario Maker tools pop up. That would get some killer reactions.
I love this concept you’ve made and with a bit of Nintendo magic I think this could be something really special.
FakeFantum was the best player me
This would probelly be the best mario game ever. It would be fun seeing dashiegames trying to beat the hardest possible courses
That would be INSANE if that were to happen! I would be down for that!
I think it would be cool if you could choose a song for your track and there would be every track song ever.
I feel like we don’t have enough risk reward Items. SO!
Mini mushroom - Shrinks the player but gives them a speed boost.
Storm Cloud - Returns from wii
Big Bomb - A much bigger Bob-omb that you can set down and activate it when you want, if it hits you big spin out.
Technically we already have one called the Giga Bob omb in Tour.
From a game dev's perspective, it's really unlikely they'd decide to do this unfortunately due to the sheer complexity of a full on 3D map editor (with decent optimization & good visuals) compared to a 2D tile based one 😮💨
I was talking about this with my brother a few days ago! These are my ideas:
STYLES: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart: Double Dash, Mario Kart Wii and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
THEMES: The same you said on the video.
ITEMS: depends of the game, each style would have its own items.
ENEMIES: Goombas, chain chomps, piranha plants, monty moles, cars on the city theme, oil stains, that worm from the desert which name I forgot, and obviously, Shy Guys.
INTERACTIVE AND DECORATIVE STUFF: Trees, light poles, walls, holes, ramps, outdoors, pipes, cones, rocks, mushrooms (and some derivatives) and arrows.
TYPES OF TRACK: Ground, asphalt (the only type that would accept cars), bridge, wood, rainbow, indoor floors, and rainbow.
ALSO:
Possibility of making battle tracks;
The online mode you said on the video;
Number of laps/sectored track is proportional to the track's length.
THESE ARE MY 2 CENTS FOR A POTENTIAL MARIO KART MAKER!!
this would be better then mk9. Making own tracks would be crazy, We could also mae super cool long tracks it would be fun to unlock certain assets for tracks or design every day until you played 31 days a bit like mario maker on the wii u but longer and it would be fun seeing what new track parts you get every day
I like the idea, but I feel like it would be too complicated having all the decorations, and if anything, it will look worse than the tracks that we have for the booster courses
It could (to a lesser extent) have the décor automatically generated like with Mario maker.
YES!!!
THE PERFECT THING NOBODY ASKED FOR!!!
Modnation racers, you just explained Modnation racers.
I don’t think anyone realizes how hard making a track editor like this actually be intuitive would be
That would be so great
I am full of ideas if it ever came to fruition. It reminds me a lot of LittleBigPlanet Karting and Modnation Racers and I really enjoyed those two games out of the PS3 which I don't really care about PlayStation after that point. Also... Nin10doland... what world do you live in where Mario Kart Super Circuit is called Mario Kart *Super Sircuit* . Ha ha ha!
Imagine if you could add any colour you want in the rainbow road theme
Even before Mario Maker came out, I wanted this really bad. I wanted an official way to make custom tracks without having to use blender on CTGP. If they made this, I would spend all my money.
So you had 1000 billion dollars and thats how much it cost would gou buy it I know I would they basically running my pockets
Does that mean you're buying all the copies?
I have never thought about this, but this is genius. But if this were to happen, I'd hope they wouldn't forget about Battle mode. Also, for the upload criteria, maybe it'd have an automatic checkpoint system that you can mess with manually if you want, as well as making an out-of-bounds area where Lakitu drags you back. Also, each course would need to be completed in each CC for it to be available in said CC. You could upload in only one CC, but that'd mean that it'd only be available in said CC. So if I made a course and completed it in 50 CC to upload, I can't play in 200 CC until I clear the course in that CC.
i have been talking about and wishing for this for years and now somebody made a video on it?!😂 A YEAR AGO!!
if nintendo would make a mario kart maker for PC, then an official game on switch were you could upload the games you make - a community would come together and make a awesome game
Me: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit exists!
Everybody else: What's that
I don’t feel like this would ever realistically happen because of fear it would cannibalize the sales of Nintendo’s futures Mario karts. Similar to what Mario maker did to the 2D Mario games. Nintendo would logically want to keep Mario kart around because it’s always a game guaranteed to make Nintendo lots of sales
I think Nintendo aims their games towards more younger audiences, so they would probably have to simplify a lot of the stuff you’ve mentioned in this video
What about weather events. I know it sounds dumb, but it could really make a track stand out, like have day, night, rainy, thunderstorm, cloudy, Dark sky, and Thunder rain night
When I was a kid, there was some sort of mario lego track builder toy. You could just snap pieces together. They could make something similar if they (Hopefully) make a Mario Kart Maker.
I just think Mario Kart 9 will come with an editor. Is the only thing the franchise needs to add to the already perfect formula.
Me before sub demand: Gaming! Me after sub demand with king goomba: Gaming, WITH GUN!
imagine if this is already in developmend and what if it comes out this year
It probably would happen in because Mario Kart Maker May ker
been begging for this for years
These are all interesting ideas and I liked the video as well as subscribed to your channel. Here are my thoughts for each category:
Styles: I would like to see a Mario Kart DS style included and would prefer it over Mario Kart Super Circuit if I had to choose. I would also like to see Mario Kart Double Dash, but I understand it might be a bit more difficult and they likely won't be able to include styles from every game.
Themes: I agree but I would also like to see a little bit more such as a city/highway theme and a mountain theme. Alternatively, maybe mountains, cars, skyscrapers, etc. are all things that can be added to any theme in track design.
Track Design: I agree. I would like to see a lot of custom options such as how long or short the course can be, its shape and the amount of laps such as 1 big lap, 3 laps, 5 or 7.
Enemies: I agree. There are so many options here.
Objects: I agree. Of course coins and item boxes can be added onto the track as well.
Items: Classics such as red shells, green shells, bananas and mushrooms should definitely be included as well as more powerful items such as the invincibility star, lightning bolt, golden mushroom and bullet bill. While more controversial, the blue shell should also be an option. I would also like to be able to customize what items can be received in which places players are in. For example, I would like to be able to choose whether players can receive a lightning bolt from 8th-12th place, 7th-12th place, 6th-12th place, etc. A bit off topic but relating to this, I would also like to be able to race other racers, CPUs or race and personally control multiple characters at once in the tracks I create, and be able to choose how many racers there are in a race such as 8 or 12.
Characters: I would like to be able to customize the roster of how many characters and which ones I would like to include in my courses from a variety of options. Of course, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Bowser, Donkey Kong, Wario and Koopa Troopa are a given for just about every Mario Kart game. Other characters that I feel should definitely be included are Waluigi, Bowser Jr., Koopa Troopa, Shy Guy, Daisy, Birdo, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Toadette and Dry Bones. I would also like to be able to customize between different colors of Yoshis, Shy Guys, etc. More characters I would like to see included as options are Rosalina, Diddy Kong, Wiggler, Dry Bowser, Nokis, Piantas, King Boo, Funky Kong, Dixie Kong, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, R.O.B., Magikoopa, Petey Pirahna and the Koopalings. Toadsworth is another character that would be cool to include as well.
Weather/Time of Day: I completely agree! This needs to be included.
Online: I strongly agree, this would make the game a lot more fun.
Conclusion: I really hope Nintendo makes a Mario Kart Maker. It would very possibly be the most enjoyable game Nintendo ever makes, or at least one of the most enjoyable. In order for this to work however there has to be a lot of different elements included like the ones you mentioned in your video. I hope it won't be missing a lot like in Super Mario Maker 1 or Super Mario Maker for the 3DS.
Nintendo should have made this, and it was a long time since we want a track editor. I remember Modnation Racers, which is an underrated game, and it makes me wish we can create our own tracks.
Couple of the fact that many videos show custom tracks in such games.
Nintendo, do it! It’s a long wanted game that we want!
I have an idea maybe like a playtest button that makes you go through a camera run through of the track also maybe have a line that shows the path and a setting to toggle the line.
ive had this idea for like 10 years. rly want it
Wooooah amazing idea! 🤯
One thing as far as the track editor: one big example that comes to mind is the little PS3 gem LittleBig Planet Karting. That thing had probably one of the best track editors I’ve seen where it essentially had you paint-roll a circular track using what are essentially simple free-flight controls. After creating the track it then gave you freedom to decorate it. Could be a prime example to follow for any up-and-coming custom track editor. Genuinely one of the best feeling track editors I’ve ever had the pleasure of playing with.
These ideas are honestly so good, combining the 3d games is perfect! However, WHERE IS THE CITY THEME?!? They’re always one of my faves
I was thinking the same, but maybe implementing traffic could be too challenging to program for such free reign of customisation?
BRO! I HAD THIS THOUGHT AND DREAM AS A CHILD!
If we get this I hope that Nintendo changes rainbow roads to ruins because thwomp ruins is iconic
What we really need is a Mario GTA Type game. Getting in and out your Kart and exploring Maps and taking down Bosses collection things
This would be more complicated to make than Mario maker but considering a hot wheels game was made where you can make custom tracks I do think it’s something Nintendo definitely could do and I really hope they do. This is a phenomenal idea
theres one theme im surprised you didnt mention, which is a mountain theme, like Wuhu Mountain Loop (aka Maka Wuhu), but i guess you could combine that with the other themes
You know what I think this should also have if it ever comes? A mission mode maker. Like, you make a stage where you set a condition to do something and set a timer for when you get up to three stars or, at the worst, a C. And also, boss battles. I think how it was in DS was perfect, something like this would be perfect to return
Fans actually did it themselves!
...well, Sonic fans, that is, but still - with the help of _Zone Builder,_ you can make your own courses *and Cups* to race in for Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart. (While there aren't exactly "styles" you can choose from - it's all in one style, you can basically make your own theme and such. And the game is practically *all about* multiplayer, so there's that.)
ya i had this idea for a long tim and the same with mario 3d maker which would have like mario 64, sunshine, galaxy and mabye more
I remember wanting Mario Kart 8 to have a level editor. I also used to play around with a Super Mario Kart track editor called EpicEdit, removing walls to cheat and making Rainbow Road's purple tiles pink so it looked more like the Mario Kart 7 version. I even contacted and got replies back from the author!
Fun fact: F-Zero has a Track Editor not once but twice with the games
- F-Zero X Expansion Kit for the Nintendo 64+Nintendo 64 Disk Drive launch in 2000 for Japan Only which allow players to create their on original full 3D tracks
- F-Zero Climax for the Nintendo Game Boy Advance in 2004 launch in Japan Only which has a build inside the game a Track Editor which allows players to create their on original 2D tracks
If this existed I guess it would have to be a unique MK game with its own mechanics, another thing is checkpoint system, MA BOI this is going to be really hard for the devs to make it work properly and not be entirely broken, it would be cool but I just can't see it happening, you know you can always mod your own tracks into MK8 so glad we have that
I LOVE that custom trophy idea.
Home Circuit crying out loud in the shadow realm
If they make a Mario Kart maker I'll be ready to make extra super Mario Kart courses
Such as
Rainbow road 2
Rainbow Road 3
Rainbow Road 4
Rainbow Road 5
Mario circuit 5
Mario Circuit 6
Mario circuit 7
Vanilla Lake 3
Vanilla Lake 4
Vanilla lake 5
Donut Plains 4
Donut Plains 5
Donut Plains 6
Ghost Valley 4
Ghost Valley 5
Bowser's Castle 4
Bowser's Castle 5
Koopa Troopa Beach 3
Koopa Troopa Beach 4
Coco Island 3
Battle course 5 as Bowser's Castle
And battle course 6 as Rainbow Road
That would be awesome
Mario kart maker would be awesome However it would have to be limited stuff you can do since a lot of people love making challenging levels in Mario maker 1 and 2
You know how Sony beat Nintendo to Mario Maker with Little Big Planet and Little Big Planet 2? Well, they beat Nintendo to this as well. There was something like this on PlayStation 3. It was called Modnation Racers. They did sell DLCs of some Sony characters such as Sly Cooper, but fans could create custom characters, tracks, and karts from stickers, props, and parts they could earn or buy as DLC. There were even various track themes they had for the game. Example, there was an Artic Tour and an Asian Tour DLC for those themes to create more tracks. Granted, the power up system, pixelated style, and anti-gravity modes weren't part of the game, but the game did have a lot of potential. I'd love to see Sony bring it back with a PS5 and PC installment.
I think controls wise what could work is placing the track like strips of road that when placed will connect generate road in between that and the last section, this can also be used for the checkpoint system.
Realistically I think they'd probably do some like a tile based system for 2D, but 3D would be generated just like Mario Kart Home Circuit, then you can set elevation, make the outside bank upwards, and add objects such as ramps, hazards, speed boosts, etc. Then you'd also have access to different props for the background. There are dynamic props, mostly animated like spectator toads or those yoshi circuit physics tires, then you'd have non dynamic props like trees and such. The decorating is probably where most of people's asset bar is going to go towards.
I can already see the Mario kart troll levels😂
this is actualy amazing the actual mario kart 9 fan makers
A Mario kart maker sounds like a cool concept..
But realistically, Nintendo would mess it up
True 😂
I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS OH MY GOD!!! this would literally be awesome I'd really like to build A track that's good for steering wheels if ur gonna be using one because I'm gonna order one
Bro, me and my brother thought of a super Mario kart maker for like 4 months now I’ve been praying Nintendo listens to this video!!!!!!
What would be even better is making an official custom track dlc, similar to ctgp, maybe they could add that once they are done with the booster course pass
For me, the bestest user friendly builder would mimic Rollercoaster Tycoon 3.
You build the polls, change tracks pieces, can toggle tunnels on and off, special pieces like loops or ramps in a scrollable menu to the side, when creating turns a toggle can be switched to make a mushroom shortcut out of say 3 pre-made one’s for this style
What if theres an option to use nodes, and you can select what nodes are ramps or start positions or anti gravity, and being able to place empty space nodes. There could be a division option and when the track ends, there could be an End Path node or something
You deserve to have a developer position in Nintendo
Why have they never done this yet? Maybe they could even add double dash elements
A City theme would be nice like you could add Cars and trucks and degsine them how you want
One of the best game idea I've ever heard!
I would be down for a Mario Kart Maker I love games that let you be creative
Amazing rundown. It boggles my mind that this game has been out so long and has so little tracks in the grand scheme of things. It does not seem that difficult to make a track. If you gave the community the tools they would probably make better tracks than the devs.
It's easy to make a track but its really hard to make an actually good track. Mario Maker has lots of garbage levels and its way simpler than a track editor.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but I'd like to see a "Diddy Kong Racing" style for "Mario Kart Maker" where you can choose to have your vehicle be a car, a hovercraft, or a plane, but the tracks can work with all three vehicle types.
Styles, SNES for retro, DD for 2 players in 1 kart, Wii for stunt tracks, 8DX for modern
ok ok...few, King Goomba will never haunt me again
Maybe they can just put all of that Mario kart 8 deluxe like a level editor on the game
ngl the idea of a mario kart make is awsome