Got the same brand plate for my g19mos to run the 507kx2. The chpws plates were out of stock so I ended up buying the dpp. Was really impressed with the build quality and machining seems really good. Fits perfect!
I'm putting the same setup on my new Glock 43x mos this weekend I'm glad to hear good things about this plate. How has it held up to some Range Shooting?
It works beautifully with the DPP adapter plate and a 507k. Just use blue Loctite and mark a hash line on your screws so you know if they walk out...I have hundreds of rounds through my hellcat rdp and no problems.....Apex trigger and a Hogue grip.
Did you by chance use the greendot 507k? Haven't found any forums or comments saying the HE507K GRX2 will fit with this plate as well. It has the same footprint, so we'll see. Adapter and optic are on the way regardless, so.
I bought the DPP plate and was impressed with the quality. I actually calipered it and it is the advertised .058" thickness. I installed with locktite and a torque driver and the front end kept lifting becoming loose after a day at the range. The marks I placed on the screws indicating the screws are not backing out. Not sure what exactly is going on but im returning it.
How has the DPP plate held up? I'm trying to decide between the DPP plate, or the C&H plate. C&H changed their design. Their new plate looks exactly like the DPP plate. The C&H plate is .070 thick, and the DPP is only 0.58 thick. C&H says everyone who has bought a DPP plate has had issues, and are now buying the C&H to replace the DPP plates. The C&H plate is double the cost....
Bro a “Fat wrench” torque wrench is only about $60. If you’re going to drop $500 on a pistol and another $2-300 on an optic, and then do your own gunsmithing. You should definitely invest in some basic smithing tools.
The rattling from the striker is normal for this firearm - go do some research - plenty of info on it, since its a Striker fire pistol; however, I did replace the striker guide with a stainless steel unit that I picked up from lakelinellc and it works with the OEM striker. It was damn worth it vs the stock plastic striker guide that can easily break and broke on my during cleaning. Also you can get an more upgraded Titanium striker guide, upgraded striker pin, upgraded striker guide spring, upgraded seer spring and upgraded safety spring in one kit from mcarbo. Major upgrade to help with better trig pull and shorter reset.
I’m looking forward putting red dot on hellcat pro just felt it this morning feels good either black or tan both of them nice colors but I think in my opinion all black looks 😍😍😍still gotta buy the gun and red dot we’ll see how it goes shouldn’t take too long
Yes I have shot about 300 rounds through it now with it on and I haven’t had any issues at all. I also kinda use the optic as a grip sometimes to rack the slide and it not showing any signs of coming loose or anything.
Without the adapter plate, would the irons cowitness or would the holosun still get in the way? I guess it’s just hard for me to tell how thick the adapter plate is from the video. Great video btw!
So I can barely see the the iron sights with this setup, without the adapter plate my guess is that you might see a little more but the holosun is a pretty tall optic.
Why didn't you get / use your free plate from Springfield Armory? I had to pay for mine because I got the gear up promo but it still only cost me 37.00 with shipping.
Just take the red dot to a gunsmith and they can drill small holes in the back of the red dot for the little post sticking up. They will just do a countersink so they won’t drill all the way through but provide enough room for the post to sit in. Thats better then the added height with the adapter plate and/or sanding them down in the back on your side. That’s just what I feel I would do but I’m fine with the gun just stock they already come with awesome night sights as it is why would anyone need anything more. But that’s me
It's a Torx, confusing to me too at times. Thanks for the video. I wanted a holosun green dot for my Hellcat and had read there would be some millwork to do
The real issue is that Holosun uses a modification of the official RMSc footprint. Their optics aren't cut for the rear lugs of the RMSc footprint or for the correct depth of front lugs, so they do not work on firearms that feature the correct RMSc footprint that has both front and rear lugs. We shouldn't have to use adaptor plates at all, if the manufacturer would just design their optic to fit a common footprint.
The dpp plate I bought was 60 bucks but mine has the four lugs and front and back raised bars on it. It’s the titanium mod. No. Xoo344rnov I guess it’s new improvement?
Hmm, on the GX4 the two rear pins are removable. No adapter plate needed. That socks tohave to raise the optic because Springfield decided to make the pins permanent
I’d get a cyclee cat or cat pro for rmsc cuts I’d never buy any k series that makes u use a plate for basically a modified rmr and not a tru rmsc … I’d only buy holosun for rmr cuts…direct to slide the only way I go
@@danielaguilar2691 just saw your video thanks for info! By the way, how’s the plate holding up without using a torque wrench? I don’t own a torque myself. Tia 🙏🏽
Thank you for your video. I was searching for an optic which will co-witness the Hellcat’s front sight since my Swampfox Sentinel optic does not. This informed me I need to continue my quest and not consider the Holosun. Too bad 😞
It’s crazy that this small adapter plate cost almost $30. What a rip off. The manufacturer probably pushes out hundreds of these an hour. 😂😂😂 we the consumer are always ripped off by these companies it’s crazy
@12:15 you said that you don't want to over do it, well you were over doing it when you were wrenching on the screws twice and not having a All-in-one torque Driver / fix it stick. I am going to keep it real with you, this video was horrible.😕
@@bryanmiller5692 thats what i mean. I would be interested in if it was flush on the sides, not protruding from my slide. I'd worry about snag and getting sliced when drawing from concealment. RMSC footprints shouldnt be as wide as this, in my opinion.
Super new to all this. But couldn't you of just filed down the back notches on the gun itself , then u wouldn't of needed the plate.. but please let me know what yall think.
I mean you could but then you ruin the finish of the slide and it becomes vulnerable to rust. Sweat is basically salt water. Salt water will rust metal. If you conceal carry, your sweat will rust the parts you filed down.
@@danielaguilar2691 YOu can get a blueing pen and blue the parts that have been filed down to stop it from rusting / re-paint it with some spray paint, however the biggest issue with filing the gun down is you 10000000% void the warrenty on your weapon.
@@Asidebar Yeah, I bought a plate. I was gonna file down my gun to get it to fit flush but I took the chance on a plate since it was cheap and decided I'm just going to run the plate. However I was just mainly replying to the reply that filing down and leaving untreated metal would rust as the blueing pen or re-painting the bare metal would help prevent the rust.
Yeah, speingfield overdid the locktite. You need to make sure you use the correct hex, and push down hard when you unscrew. Be careful no to strip the screw
You can use a soldering iron, once it gets hot, touch the tip of the iron to the top of the screws to melt the loctite, it will help a lot with backing out the screws. 🤙
It put hundreds on rounds with it installed and haven’t had any issues with it not holding zero. I haven’t taken it off since I made this video and there no issues with it at all. It is really well made.
@@GlocksAndWock you complaining like you paid to watch this or something. Also you handle sounds like something an undercover atf agent would come up with
First hold the flashlight behind the slide to see if any light is showing through. And as for the gap that you should be looking for in your memory lost
You can use whatever you want as long as you don’t over tighten them. It is difficult to tell on video but I did not use a lot of force tightening the screws.
@@danielaguilar2691 First thing is you neglected to service gun after take down. you put it together dry. No need to take gun apart with no mention of service just to add length to your video.
@@danielaguilar2691 Not trying to rag you, but the title was installing red dot on hellcat. If I put a video out "Changing Spark Plugs on a F150" I would not remove the Engine to do it. I would simply show how to change the plugs. Too many you-tubers put click bait Titles or add unnecessary content to make video longer. Just get to the point when doing a video.
@@raymondchambers2846 Well the reason I removed the slide is so it can lay flat and so its easier to see in the video. Removing an engine is not comparable to field stripping a gun. Literally takes 3 seconds to field strip a handgun.
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Jesus man this should be a 2 minute video
Remove 2 screws, set plate on, install 2 screws. Could be 30 seconds
@@dawhitecastle you are complaining like you paid to watch this or something lol
Like and subscribe for more useless content lol
@@tomasvelasquez6013 lol and yet here you are wasting your own time
@@danielaguilar2691 touche'
So many people giving this guy shit... thanks for the vid bud.
Got the same brand plate for my g19mos to run the 507kx2.
The chpws plates were out of stock so I ended up buying the dpp.
Was really impressed with the build quality and machining seems really good.
Fits perfect!
Yeah me too, I thought I might have to return it when I ordered it but its actually really solid
I'm putting the same setup on my new Glock 43x mos this weekend I'm glad to hear good things about this plate. How has it held up to some Range Shooting?
@@robertsalyers1351 its holding up great, the material seems really great, u won't regret it!
@@japaokawa I took it to the Range the other day...I'm very impressed with it
Poor dude getting so much heat lol. Ordered the titanium one. ☝️
Hey man, thanks for the video! Just ordered a 507k for my hellcat. Bought the same mounting plate as you.
It works beautifully with the DPP adapter plate and a 507k. Just use blue Loctite and mark a hash line on your screws so you know if they walk out...I have hundreds of rounds through my hellcat rdp and no problems.....Apex trigger and a Hogue grip.
Did you by chance use the greendot 507k? Haven't found any forums or comments saying the HE507K GRX2 will fit with this plate as well. It has the same footprint, so we'll see. Adapter and optic are on the way regardless, so.
@@qudebro525 yes the only difference is dot color
I bought the DPP plate and was impressed with the quality. I actually calipered it and it is the advertised .058" thickness. I installed with locktite and a torque driver and the front end kept lifting becoming loose after a day at the range. The marks I placed on the screws indicating the screws are not backing out. Not sure what exactly is going on but im returning it.
Use screws w dot
How has the DPP plate held up? I'm trying to decide between the DPP plate, or the C&H plate. C&H changed their design. Their new plate looks exactly like the DPP plate. The C&H plate is .070 thick, and the DPP is only 0.58 thick. C&H says everyone who has bought a DPP plate has had issues, and are now buying the C&H to replace the DPP plates. The C&H plate is double the cost....
Mine titanium plate was cheaper than the competition yet it has been the VERY BEST I’ve ever encountered! Absolute perfection
It has held up wonderfully. 1K rounds so far
Bro a “Fat wrench” torque wrench is only about $60. If you’re going to drop $500 on a pistol and another $2-300 on an optic, and then do your own gunsmithing. You should definitely invest in some basic smithing tools.
The rattling from the striker is normal for this firearm - go do some research - plenty of info on it, since its a Striker fire pistol; however, I did replace the striker guide with a stainless steel unit that I picked up from lakelinellc and it works with the OEM striker. It was damn worth it vs the stock plastic striker guide that can easily break and broke on my during cleaning. Also you can get an more upgraded Titanium striker guide, upgraded striker pin, upgraded striker guide spring, upgraded seer spring and upgraded safety spring in one kit from mcarbo. Major upgrade to help with better trig pull and shorter reset.
Thanks
Good video man you always gone have people who think they no it all
I’m looking forward putting red dot on hellcat pro just felt it this morning feels good either black or tan both of them nice colors but I think in my opinion all black looks 😍😍😍still gotta buy the gun and red dot we’ll see how it goes shouldn’t take too long
thank you so much for this video... i needed it for my hellcat
Which Screws did you use the HolsoSun or the adapter plate?
I used the ones that came with plate. Those are cut to the exact length needed to attach the red dot to the slide with the mount
Have you shot with it yet? Did you have any problems with the plate or optic after shooting?
Yes I have shot about 300 rounds through it now with it on and I haven’t had any issues at all. I also kinda use the optic as a grip sometimes to rack the slide and it not showing any signs of coming loose or anything.
@@danielaguilar2691 nice I may go with that one then. Thanks man!
Without the adapter plate, would the irons cowitness or would the holosun still get in the way? I guess it’s just hard for me to tell how thick the adapter plate is from the video. Great video btw!
So I can barely see the the iron sights with this setup, without the adapter plate my guess is that you might see a little more but the holosun is a pretty tall optic.
Bet! Thanks man I appreciate the reply!
Why didn't you get / use your free plate from Springfield Armory? I had to pay for mine because I got the gear up promo but it still only cost me 37.00 with shipping.
Can you send the link to the plate please? I could not find it on Springfield's website. Thanks!
Called and emailed Springfield regarding adapter plate for this installation. They said they don’t make one and to contact Holosun.
@@JW-gb6hq The Holosun uses the RMR plate. Part is XD5073
Just take the red dot to a gunsmith and they can drill small holes in the back of the red dot for the little post sticking up. They will just do a countersink so they won’t drill all the way through but provide enough room for the post to sit in. Thats better then the added height with the adapter plate and/or sanding them down in the back on your side. That’s just what I feel I would do but I’m fine with the gun just stock they already come with awesome night sights as it is why would anyone need anything more. But that’s me
If you wear Progressive lenses in your glasses, you can’t see the front site. The red dot lets you focus on the target, which you can see.
red dots are always faster than iron sights
It's a Torx, confusing to me too at times. Thanks for the video. I wanted a holosun green dot for my Hellcat and had read there would be some millwork to do
You could just grind off the two rear lugs on the slide.
@@Daddy53751 don’t do it
@@lowprofile2412 ya know,
I tend to agree with you.
Oh, I also believe even the Ruger Max 9 has removable pins so adapter plates aren't needed. Wonder why Springfield cheaped out?
The real issue is that Holosun uses a modification of the official RMSc footprint. Their optics aren't cut for the rear lugs of the RMSc footprint or for the correct depth of front lugs, so they do not work on firearms that feature the correct RMSc footprint that has both front and rear lugs. We shouldn't have to use adaptor plates at all, if the manufacturer would just design their optic to fit a common footprint.
Perfect video. Thank you. 🙏
The dpp plate I bought was 60 bucks but mine has the four lugs and front and back raised bars on it. It’s the titanium mod. No. Xoo344rnov I guess it’s new improvement?
Hmm, on the GX4 the two rear pins are removable. No adapter plate needed. That socks tohave to raise the optic because Springfield decided to make the pins permanent
I bought a 407k x2 but it just seems too wide for my Hellcat Pro.
I want a thinner one.
So Im returning my red dot
What did you end up replacing it with?
Curious also
I’d get a cyclee cat or cat pro for rmsc cuts I’d never buy any k series that makes u use a plate for basically a modified rmr and not a tru rmsc … I’d only buy holosun for rmr cuts…direct to slide the only way I go
How did the plate hold up
Does it have any plat from side to side like the CH plate?
Do you think this would fit on the xds mod 2 osp? I beleibe they have the same footprint
Update to my question. Foe those who have a springfield xds mod 2 osp cut. This plate will work. I just had the holosun mounted
What color did you get or are you doing anything with the iron sights/front post?
I have this in black and have green tritium up front.
It came in this color FDE. The front post came with a tritium iron sight as well
@@danielaguilar2691 just saw your video thanks for info! By the way, how’s the plate holding up without using a torque wrench? I don’t own a torque myself. Tia 🙏🏽
the fact that the camera shakes when you tighten them the final time they are for sure overtightened.....15inlb is pretty much snug
Just ordered 1.
Thank you for your video. I was searching for an optic which will co-witness the Hellcat’s front sight since my Swampfox Sentinel optic does not. This informed me I need to continue my quest and not consider the Holosun. Too bad 😞
Swampfox makes a sight for the hellcat, so you can have 1/3 co-witness.
Ameriglo and NightFision make 1/3 co-witness sights for the hellcat to use with a 407/507
Vortex defender is a direct fit with no adapter plate I believe.
Omg that was like watching paint dry lol
You def over tightened them screws
theres always a negative nancy in the backround... thanks for your input, karen/kevin.
Better to over do it than under do it 😂
My anxiety levels went through the roof when you kept tightening those screws the way you did 😅. Jesus it said 15lbs that was more like 50lbs.
It looks like they are but you cant tell how much force I’m actually using
@@danielaguilar2691neither can you without a torque wrench bud
does this adapter plate work on the hellcat pro as well?
I’m not sure, but I dont see why they would change the cut out or the footprint for the optic. My guess is that it does.
Yes
Yes just put on now
Nicely done
It’s crazy that this small adapter plate cost almost $30. What a rip off. The manufacturer probably pushes out hundreds of these an hour. 😂😂😂 we the consumer are always ripped off by these companies it’s crazy
Did you price out the C&H plate, it's double the cost of this one! Comparatively this one is cheap.
Do you need the adaptor plate?
Yes otherwise it will not sit flush and you could damage the treads on the slide
Thanks for the video. And maybe you can hold that rattle still with a dab of white lithium?
@12:15 you said that you don't want to over do it, well you were over doing it when you were wrenching on the screws twice and not having a All-in-one torque Driver / fix it stick. I am going to keep it real with you, this video was horrible.😕
Boo hoo...get over your self
How the plate work out
what tool should i use to put the screws in?
its proper name is a T10 Torx driver
@@tedross2424 Thank you
Wish DPP made an adapter for the TX22 Competition for the Holosun HS507K. I am having to grind one out. 😡
Stop tightening saying you don’t wanna over tighten lol. Giving me anxiety.
just cant get over that overhang
Why does it matter? The optic overhangs yhe same amount
@@bryanmiller5692 thats what i mean. I would be interested in if it was flush on the sides, not protruding from my slide. I'd worry about snag and getting sliced when drawing from concealment. RMSC footprints shouldnt be as wide as this, in my opinion.
@@ekzoskelitNthat’s because it’s not that’s y I’ll never buy a holosun k series it’s a modified rmr that’s y u need a plate for it
Super new to all this. But couldn't you of just filed down the back notches on the gun itself , then u wouldn't of needed the plate.. but please let me know what yall think.
I mean you could but then you ruin the finish of the slide and it becomes vulnerable to rust. Sweat is basically salt water. Salt water will rust metal. If you conceal carry, your sweat will rust the parts you filed down.
@@danielaguilar2691 YOu can get a blueing pen and blue the parts that have been filed down to stop it from rusting / re-paint it with some spray paint, however the biggest issue with filing the gun down is you 10000000% void the warrenty on your weapon.
@@Faithfps Much better to use the plate instead of filing down part of gun.
$25 plate or void the warranty?
I'll take $25 plate for the Win 🏆
@@Asidebar Yeah, I bought a plate. I was gonna file down my gun to get it to fit flush but I took the chance on a plate since it was cheap and decided I'm just going to run the plate. However I was just mainly replying to the reply that filing down and leaving untreated metal would rust as the blueing pen or re-painting the bare metal would help prevent the rust.
Will this plate work for the helcat rdp too?
Is anyone else having problems taking off the screws? Mine are like crazy tight
Yeah, speingfield overdid the locktite. You need to make sure you use the correct hex, and push down hard when you unscrew. Be careful no to strip the screw
You can use a soldering iron, once it gets hot, touch the tip of the iron to the top of the screws to melt the loctite, it will help a lot with backing out the screws. 🤙
bypass talking and start here 5:00
Is that the same adapter plate for the Hellcat Pro?
I been told the cut out in the slides are the same so yes I believe so
It works for the osp as well.
will the adapter plate fit on a hellcat pro?
Just ordered mine today for my pro, will let you know next Tuesday...
It should, I believe someone in the comments said it does. I think the optic cut out on the slide is the exact same on all hellcat models
@@philwarn7133did it fit )
@SyndiconV2 yes,
No you get like 50;000 hours out of the battery on that sight. Something like 5 years. You shouldn’t have to worry about it
No..... no you don't smfh 🙄
Be careful I heard if you don’t screw to exact inch it will spring out and fly into orbit.
Couldn't you just drill a little into the underside of the optic?
Dude you way over done it on them screws lmao wow 😮
They're supposed to be torqued in
Exactly... that's likely wayyyyy more than spec. Inch/lbs NOT Ft/lbs 😅😂😂
Holosun says once it’s snug turn 3/4 more if you have no torque. But they highly recommend torquing them. It’s good to know
Bummer that we lose the co witness of sights. Makes me tempted to start filing that sucker.
Bro he didn’t even know what a ratchet was. This install was doomed
I have a Machine shop that shaved it down so i dont use a plate . Its so much better that way
Oil prevents rust/corrosion. You're better off coating the surface with a light sheen of oil.
Facts When I take my cover plate off a new gun I leave it 🤷🏾♂️
UH-LOOM-IN-UM
get it right
Lol go get laid bro.
Also it’s titanium
Be careful using a ratchet tightening those screws
Just let tards be tards....
You dried out the alcohol with the moisture in your breath lol
Matatan.🤔. Ribirin Hs,
you never wanna cheap out on soemthig like this yourgun will never 0
It put hundreds on rounds with it installed and haven’t had any issues with it not holding zero. I haven’t taken it off since I made this video and there no issues with it at all. It is really well made.
This is literally one of the best optics on the market..
The difference is precisely that. With most other more expensive dots you will be re-zeroing them a lot, at least every battery change.
Didnt have to take off rail to install btw
It's called a slide and it's easier because it sits flat
Why this take ya so long to do 😂
What are you doing
Putting an optic on a gun..you?
@Zach Kennedy Put the crack pipe down bud and form a coherent sentence. 🤡
@Unknown User are your parents siblings? Are you really just going to copy what I said to your original comment on this video? Lololol wow 😆
No reason why this should be 19 and a half minutes lmao, disliked
@@GlocksAndWock you complaining like you paid to watch this or something. Also you handle sounds like something an undercover atf agent would come up with
A ratchet
Thank you lol I suddenly had amnesia
Don’t quit your regular job and don’t make any more videos!
Or what?
First hold the flashlight behind the slide to see if any light is showing through. And as for the gap that you should be looking for in your memory lost
*memory loss
@@danielaguilar2691 you effed up 10 times in this video minimum doofus lmao
rachet set
no you don't want to kinda tighten it YOU NEED TO USE A TORQUE T WRENCH SMFH...YOU ARE ON A TIME TABLE FOR THEM TO SHEAR FACTS
You can use whatever you want as long as you don’t over tighten them. It is difficult to tell on video but I did not use a lot of force tightening the screws.
@@danielaguilar2691 no you can’t use whatever you want. You are responsible and accountable to use the recommended procedure FACTS.
@@bull5919 And I bet you stop for five seconds at every stop sign, don’t you. 😂
@@joefuentez7232 nothing is remotely funny at what your saying. That’s some simple specs and easy to do no telling what else corners he’s cutting
I leave mine set to 15lbs 🤷🏾♂️ which all my optics say to torque to its a reason y 💀
Field stripping a gun for 2 screws? Just break your little piggy bank and get one that fits Geezz.
Whats wrong with field stripping?
@@danielaguilar2691 First thing is you neglected to service gun after take down. you put it together dry. No need to take gun apart with no mention of service just to add length to your video.
@@raymondchambers2846 Mhmm I wasn’t doing a maintenance video, it is a installation video. Not really sure what you are going on about.
@@danielaguilar2691 Not trying to rag you, but the title was installing red dot on hellcat. If I put a video out "Changing Spark Plugs on a F150" I would not remove the Engine to do it. I would simply show how to change the plugs. Too many you-tubers put click bait Titles or add unnecessary content to make video longer. Just get to the point when doing a video.
@@raymondchambers2846 Well the reason I removed the slide is so it can lay flat and so its easier to see in the video. Removing an engine is not comparable to field stripping a gun. Literally takes 3 seconds to field strip a handgun.
Does your job drug test? If not they should you can't remember a lot of names of ratchet.
Drugs are good man
Judging by how you used forceps to put the screws in I bet you wear a covid mask in your car by yourself
What a douchebag bro. Keep your hate to yourself where it belongs.