Sidney Weltmer and the Queen's Package: Citation Needed 3x04
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2015
- This week! We're tracking down some suggestive pseudoscience, and wondering about the Queen's package. And no, you're not finding out what was in the bit that got removed for legal reasons.
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TOM is @tomscott and at tomscott.com
GARY is @garybrannan
MATT is @unnamedculprit and at mattg.co.uk
CHRIS doesn't do this social media nonsense.
Since Derek Acorah's died, and as Tom says, you can't libel the dead, can we have the uncensored version of Gary's joke now?
Oh, Tom, please.
I honestly think the censored version with the abrupt BISCUITS is funnier.
@@MatthewDoel32 Me too, doesn't stop curiosity getting the better of me!
It's probably something along the lines of "twat"
@@jeffgoldblunt I know British libel law's strict as, but surely simply calling someone a twat isn't enough to sue over.
"Removed for legal reasons" "MYSTERY BISCUITS!"
That was perfect comedic timing. Well done.
Derek Accorah is a *beep *beep* *beep* BISCUITS!!"
Biggest laugh of the episode.
pcljet can you explain the joke? ive watched this episode 3 times and i still dont get it
Well, Derek is an actor/"spiritual medium," which are both professions which rely heavily on being able to sell things that aren't true. Given the bleeping, I'm guessing he also tends towards the litigious.
**beep*-stery Biscuits* (oh yeah)
And yeah, he got a bit sue-y when he was revealed to be absolutely the charlatan that everyone suspected he was, by dint of secretly visiting the area of the next target property and looking up all the behind the scenes details on people who died there and might therefore be expected to reappear as ghosts... taking notes on things he could "channel" from the spirits that he _couldn't possibly_ have known otherwise, as proof that his psychic powers were real.
Nice attempt, really, but took it too far, and didn't deal with the unmasking too well. Dunno how the court case came out but I can't imagine it went in his favour, which is why he doesn't appear on our screens any more other than in repeats way off in the high numbered satellite and cable channels, his role having been taken over by Yvette Fielding whose job is basically "professional scaredycat". None of the whole mock-spiritual-medium guff that Derek indulged in... just jumping in fright at every little noise or tiny glint of light in a darkened room.
This show is incredibly dehydrating. I just cannot drink.
They always say you should drink equally amounts of water and citation needed
Spit take!
Ah, the eternal triangle: Sexual Healing, Magnetic Healing, and Sexual Magnetism
5 likes ? Deserves more
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I find it crazy that I've been watching your videos for a year and I've only just realised you went to my University and you were Mad Captain Tom that I've heard people talk about.
Sam Sayah That's one of the most fitting nicknames I've ever heard
Sam Sayah Oh my God. Ok, so after some googling it turns out he ran for parliament in 2010?! Apparently 84 people voted for him, including Noel Gallagher, not too bad for such a strong conservative seat.
Check out the Park Bench series, he goes into his time as Mad Cap'n Tom on the internet, at university, and in London. All three are fascinating stories, especially the latter two of course
Meanwhile, at my university I don’t even know the names of my current teachers.
I have been avoiding watching those old videos like hell. I don't want to know.
A motor glider is a fixed-wing aircraft that can be flown with or without engine power
Jackie Scholl Well, a B-2 is hard to fly without power.
Surely you enjoyed the $100 hamburger episode then? Didnt realise fellow aviation nuts watched this? Do you fly yourself?
Jackie Scholl a motor glider is able to glide efficiently. Standard airplanes do not glide as efficiently. The Grob 109 "Vigilant" motor glider is able to utilise themals and updraft to glide like a standard glider. Whereas the Grob 115 "Tutor" or other airplanes cannot.
THANK YOU!
Thank you Aviation Captain, you can fly away now
1:40 No no no no, it DOES glide, the cats are running in a wheel that turns the handle for the projector that plays the on-flight movie.
Piper Isle PERFECT
Purrfect (sorry I had to)
*BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP* ...BISCUITS!
Perfect comic timing.
I've seen this episode a dozen times and I'm still inevitably surprised when the sound improves dramatically at 9:00.
.. i didnt notice, but thats what happens when the sound engineer remembers to do his job i sujppose :o
I always thought when he says "I forgot to record" he was joking
I just realized that he turns on the recorder for the actual mics and we switch from gopro mics to the good mics!
2 years ago I was on a cruise ship and had a great time drinking with these people on the ship and playing the ships trivia contest with them. Then they told me they were psychic healers and I spent the next 2 weeks avoiding them.
At the risk of sounding more demanding than jokey, never stop making these. I know they're the perfect length for casual entry, but every time I watch one, I immediately wish I had another new one to watch. I'm not saying that you should kidnap your friends, and force them to make ten of these a day, but it would make for an interesting news piece, when they break their shackles, and run from your house, screaming, "There were no biscuits! There were no biscuits!"
Sadly, I think they are planning to stop making Citation Needed after the next season. They're doing other things, though!
@@timothymclean Replying to a 3 year old comment
They’ve stopped it I think
They’ve stopped it
i really like this comment
I'm surprised that the U. S. Postmaster General didn't prosecute the guy for mail fraud. Nowadays the Postmaster General's office is responsible for investigating and prosecuting all mail-related crime in the U. S., which means a surprising number of sketchy little scams are federal crimes and carry a terrifyingly hefty penalty.
Maybe the law was different back then, who knows
Thing is, Weltmer had an actual clinic, with people coming in for treatments and staff sometimes making house calls. The main part of the business was in-person, with people coming in and receiving an actual (if scientifically and medically unsound except as a placebo) service; mail was strictly a vector for communication & transactions. So, there probably wasn't enough for it to qualify as mail fraud outright. If he'd been selling induction scripts through the mail, on the other hand....
It's got to the point where I absent-mindedly lip-sync to "Mystery Biscuits" whenever it happens.
Joshua Green Do you do the 'oh yeah' bit at the end?
@@TheChipmunk2008 i do!
How do you remember all the words?
Bruh, I flatout sing it. XD
Matt Gray's ferric shoulder seems like one of those wierd sponsorship they had in the reverse trivia podcast
"Those are his middle names"
Not a statement of fact under US law in context. It's so obviously false that any court would see it as not intended to be literal.
They’re not in the US, are they?
@@oxybrightdark8765 "Ah, now that's a statement of fact!"
@@NoLongerBreathedIn no it’s not, it’s a question.
@@oxybrightdark8765 "Those are his middle names." "Ah, now that's a statement of fact!"
they're british, not American,
UK libel law is amonst the strictest in the world & they follow that, as they live, work & film(ed) in the UK
that would be deemed as enough to be taken against them, in court, over here (UK)
as Tom points out
Upon learning about the very laxative US libel laws, the Technical Difficulties briefly considered moving their head of operations to America
whatever "laxative laws" means, I don't think I want to chance that
@@phygs I mean, some people likely consider the laws to be crappy, so it might fit, anyway.
That bishop joke really made me laugh. There's not enough chess based humour.
Bishop is not based around the chess piece.
+Erik Akerberg it's the fact that he said they move diagonally.
If only my icon were a 'D', we might have a crude joke to be made. You tried, Lads, and that's all we could ask for. Perhaps one day if sir D wishes to step up to the plate, I will gladly delete this post, that the thread's full potential be reached.
@@aidanclark196 wrong video, wasn't that in the Thomas Midgley video?
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I find it somewhat funny to imagine the TechDif guys going back to the 1800's to start a therapy place where they just say to people "You're okay, stop worrying about it." and charging ludicrous amounts of money for it. I'm not too sure how good Gary would be, but I feel like Tom might be good at it.
"You are feeling sleepy. You might not know it, you might not believe it, but it's true, and here's why..."
Time to charge the fact batteries!
1:40 well, yeah, the cat just generates enough power for all the accessories one might outfit their glider with, such as the much required electric kettle and tea cup dispenser. the cat is also equipped with a direct 12 volt plug in, so that you can charge your devices as you descend gracefully towards the scenery below.
Most devices charge on 5V USB standard
Sadly, I actually worked this out, too. If you dispense with the accessories, you can put the cat on a larger glider and power a power-assist system for the control surfaces and some electronic instruments with it.
“Some kind of mental health-“ “Broken toe!”
The 'magnetic healing' is probably linked to the 'work' of Franz Mesmer who believed there were magnetic fluids in the body that could be controlled and therefore one could contol the actions of another.
Hold up--is that where the word "mesmerizing" comes from?
@@dbseamz Yes! He believed you could hypnotize others using these magnetic fluids, this belief is known as mesmerism, and mesmerizing is derived from that term.
when Derek Acorah dies, can we get the removed bit?
It’s funnier with the censored bit.
well we can now
you can't libel the dead. now's the time
Well!
You don’t know me but I’m giving Gary a retroactive point for correctly saying “give me a tenner next time” just before Tom says a 10 day course cost $100
Matt's "Hello RUclips" was just getting really creepy
I went to a Derek acorha event with our philosophy and ethics class and disproved him with a vegetable.
Disproved him "as" a vegetable? :)
Haha, how?!
Okay, I know I'm replying to a two-year-old comment, but leaving _that_ anecdote unfinished is criminal.
@@HaloInverse I know, right? THE PUBLIC DEMANDS ANSWERS!
what did you do, batter him with a marrow going 'where are the spirits now derek?
Am I the only one who wondered if the glider was powered by cats running on a hamster wheel or cats being burned like petrol.
Gregor Masson how about both?
Gregor Masson considering how lazy cats are, it´s probably the latter.
I was thinking cats trapped in a perpetual falling state, and so endlessly spinning as they seek a feet-first position - endless energy!
+Gregor Masson no it was the hamster in a wheel, toxicized by petrol, runing away from a cat which is also in a wheel, but cat wheel had gears cranked to it since it's a bigger animal and it will be more efficient to power glider via catwheel. otherwise you're stuck with hamster-powered glider
And I was wondering how one manages to let cats do anything other than what *they* want.
Those biscuits were a literal mystery.
I just noticed that matt’s headphones say ‘Matt Gray’ on them
The cat can supply power to other parts of the glider (e.g. lights, dials, ect) but its flight is still unpowered - so its still a glider which is powered by a cat
may I point out Gary said "ok come back give my a tenner next time" and that it was $100 for a 10 day course, so he was right.
Wow! I didn't catch on to that!
If I had a binary choice of a British entertainment-related group with which to spend an afternoon, and my options were the Rolling Stones or the Technical Difficulties, I'd take the Technical Difficulties.
now charles doesn't just meddle in things
The postmaster general section has me in tears.
This is a strange show. I like it
its pretty much if you took the the internet and four blokes from Yorkshire living in london, and shoved them in the room.
Swaffle wait, Tom isn’t from Yorkshire!
This is like a more focused version of QI!
I thought QI was a longer version of this :D
Had the identical thought.
The fact that there's something less focused than this says way too much
"I forgot to hit record"' That's why it sounded bad! Wait, they just go on like nothing happened?!
Guys, Acorah just died can be get the unedited footage
Any chance of an uncensored/uncut version? I'd be willing to buy the DVD.
So I looked up Derek Acorah. Well played, gents.
Just sstruck me that this entire episode could almost just as well have described Scientology.
I don't think you're being fair to Sidney Weltmer.
Timothy McLean Considering I thought "that's Scientology, innit?", I don't think it's that unfair.
Or, indeed, CBT.
there are actually powered gliders they have an engine solely for getting into the air which is then switched off n you ride thermals
Powered gliders are kind of a thing, they have a propulsion system to get them into the air and run out once their high up enough, and then they glide down like regular gliders
To this day I’m still annoyed we never got to hear what Gary said about Derek Acorah.
He's died now... not libel anymore
I thought I knew who Weltmer was. Turns out I was thinking of Horace Fletcher, the great masticator.
The what?
5:28 "A Ten day course wan 100 dollars"
5:00 "Come back, give me a tenner next time"
100 money / 10 days(times) = 10 money/day(time)
Missed Point!
"Matt Gray's ferric shoulder."
To be fair, therapy and hypnosis both only work when people want them too. And hypnosis is actually used in a lot of therapies these days, mostly in dealing with phobias and behavioral disorders, if I'm not mistaken. It sometimes give people an extra boost in willpower. This is BS though :P
We need more of this. This is just amazing
Is there anyway of getting unbleeped and uncensored versions. Maybe we could have a pinky swear that we won't grass you up? Nope... Nawwww :-(
You have no idea how happy i was seeing this in my subscriptionlist...
I love how this episode is bordering treason nowadays
You absolutely CAN have a powered glider! They're called motor gliders and they use engines to climb up and gain altitude, then you switch off the engine and glide down.
Personally I'd've given Matt mystery biscuits for Bishop moving diagonally upwards 😂
I love British accent, also I want to have it, but is so hard, for a Spanish speaker.
Is an amusing and great conversation.
I live in Wooster, Ohio! Never expected it to come up in a video like this, with a population of just over 25,000.
the closed captions on this are hilarious!
A "power glider" is actually a thing.
Glider aircraft have two categories. There is an unpowered glider, which needs to be towed up into the sky, and a powered glider with a small engine and propeller, which can fly itself up into the sky. After going up, the powered glider pilot shuts off the engine and glides around.
Ferric shoulder sounds like it could be someone's name.
You've won a recreation of an extinct bird wearing traditional Japanese dress from The Hunchback of Notredame and a character from the Lord of The Rings.
A dodo wearing a kimono from Quasimodo and Frodo
Close. A dodo clone in a kimono... Well done though.
+iain hewitt ahh I missed the word recreation.
You did well. I'm currently thinking of how to phrase another... Something along the lines of, "Mr Reynolds won the bronze in an open necked garment but was very short when asked about it..." It needs something else, I feel, and I'm not sure bronze fits...
I assume the open necked garment fits though?
So many awesome jokes in this one! :D Why am I not asleep? I should be asleep but I cannot put this down.
A powered glider is actually a thing...
Ah, but does it involve cats?
Plane.
*bleep, bleep, bleep*
**BISCUIIIITS!**
can someone make a page with all of his prizes listed
+Zalied That is an awesome idea!
And sponsors.
I'm replying unbelievably late, but there actually is a spreadsheet somewhere with the prizes, and all the points & Biscuits everyone has scored.
yep if you google the show and prizes it comes up
Just cant stop watching these
Introducing Gary "two shirts" Brennan!
Best talkshow on youtube.
i love how a significant portion of this episode was legal argument
I love how Matt says "Is *it* an American?"
I mean, we're people too! XD
Einar Strandberg, you say that, but are you sure? Corporate influence being what it is are you sure we're not just all corporations just recognized under the law as people?
@@smwillia yes
While we’re on the topic of Reverend Bishop, the Cardinal of Manila between 1976 and 2003 was a guy named Jaime Sin. Cardinal Sin.
derek acorah's professional title is spiritual medium. you're welcome
*scam artist
Just a quick correction; Libel law in the US is different in that slander and libel are actually are protections for two different kinds of citizens. Libel is against Public figures and has an extremely high bar of proof, requiring the person stating the libel as a means to create malicious damage. Slander is protection for the common citizen and the evidence is much lower.
William Brayton Sorry, but this is false.
The US does give extra protections to people speaking about public figures, so it is far harder for a politician or a celebrity to successfully bring a defamation case than for a normal citizen, but _there aren't a separate names for it_, just different legal standards. Libel still refers to written defamation, and slander still refers to spoken defamation.
That's what I was saying.
William Brayton No, it isn't. You either didn't read my comment, or you are very confused about what you wrote, or both.
You wrote: "Libel is against Public figures and has an extremely high bar of proof, requiring the person stating the libel as a means to create malicious damage. Slander is protection for the common citizen and the evidence is much lower."
This is absolutely false, in that the definitions of "Libel" and "Slander" have *nothing* to do with the legal standards that a public figure has to meet in order to bring a successful defamation lawsuit.
In the United States, "Libel" simply means "written defamation", just like in the rest of the world.
In the United States, "Slander" simply means "spoken defamation", just like the rest of the world.
Clear?
Or you don't know American law because Libel and Slander are sometimes codified into the same things by state laws.
William Brayton Cite the law, then. Because I've never heard of it being defined in the way you mention in your OP.
The advert before this for me was 'Heal yourself with energy medicine' XD
I am shocked no one questioned the notions of a state supreme court.
i wanna see the bonus clip but it brings me back to this video? :
So since Derek Acorah has passed and that you can't apparently libel the dead, can we get that full Derek Acorah professional title?
Its funnier this way
I would have laughed more if you used just the mystery biscuits to bleep out the description of Derek Acorah.
6:37 made me laugh out loud for the suddeness
I really want to know what was removed for legal reasons
The Vicar of the parish where I used to live was Fr. Bishop it's more common than you'd think. I've yet to meet a Fr. Pope
The bonus clip link at the end is broken, lads.
1:36, its called a motor glider.
basicly a glider with a moter.
many types
TMG: can take off on its own, fly with more efficiency than a convential small aircraft or soar less efficently than a convential glider.
retractable propeller: the propeller can be used to aid in gliding in a saw tooth pattern some can take off on their own
sustainer: must be launched like a convential glider, the motor can be started in the air using the moving air to start it.
14:05 you get a point for successfully saying this is something or someone
the spit take edition link at the end of the video just takes me to the start of the video.
3:55 truly mysterious biscuits
Since when are gliders powered?
(If I had to power a ultralight aircraft with cats I think I'd look into a wireless power set up and a slew of cat wheel)
Now I'm just thinking how to rig a boxkite style glider to a cat rigged so it's tail can control the empenage assembly
Thank you..
I know in broad terms what was in that bit. At least, I think I do. Accurate but insulting statements that would cause any lawsuit by him about them to get kicked out of court in the States. Heck, in many states, it'd be possible to even get him to pay your legal bills with an anti-SLAPP motion. (Normally, in the States, everyone pays their own lawyers. This is so that people would not be scared off from bringing meritorious lawsuits by fear that they'd have to pay the defendants' much larger legal bills.)
Gone for a few weeks and you release the next season of Citations Needed... Thanks for waiting for me...
But hey, now I don't have to wait to see two new Citations Needed, Win-Lose-Win? No idea.
I'm just gonna shut up and play along.
4:00 Gary wins the nth degree.
9 minutes of thinking the audio sounded kind of funny entirely validated
Reverent Bishop, promoted to Bishop Bishop and then Archbishop Bishop. Reminds me of Catch-22 with Major Major, Major Major Major and the ultimate Major Major Major Major.
They killed Chris in this one 😂
There are no link annotations at the end.
What do you mean "legal reasons"? I wanna know what Gary said behind that bleep!
I'm going to guess they mean "This guy would sue us".
UK libel law is more strict than in the US, in that opinion also can get you into trouble. Since Gary had insulted him by effectively calling him a fraud (to put it lightly) like all other psychic mediums, Tom didn't want to get sued given the guy is known for suing fellow Brits who try to badmouth him.
UK is a socialist regime
@@theswaff699 Letting private people "censor" those who badmouth them is completely unrelated to socialism.
I think the annotation for the bonus clip has the wrong link.
this still doesn't have the bonus clip corrected?
I fort derek acorah was an Indian chef famous for his spicy pakoras
Matthew Stamp "I can't stop eating these pakoras- actually, I can't move."
You've just won a meal at a restaurant named after a former spiritualist, where you can buy Indian fritter appetizers flavored with iron shavings.
It's Derek Acorah's Ferric Pakoras.
I love this show...
*bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep* BISCUITS! OH YEAH