I now have the same sub and box. Since I have the RP1500 in my car, I wired the sub to a 4 ohm load. Can't believe how hard it hits. Thank you so much for the videos.
@@larsonfrederick7885 Noo, depending how your amp works. I got a hifonics Brutus. It depends on the sub you get too. With my amp at 1ohm I get all 2400w of the amp. I had to wire mine down to 2ohm due to the subs I got. So I’m only getting 1600w at 2ohm. At 4 I’ll be getting even lower power.. so like I said depending on amp an subs you got. Got to make sure you get everything so it works together well.. I never run 4ohm, that’s to low of power for me. I either wire mine to 1 or 2 ohm.
I did a 2007 GMC Yukon with 3 Skar SDR 12’s in a three 12 sealed custom 3rd row box. Trunk is bangin!!! In the process of editing the videos of the install to upload them to youtube. You cant beat it for the price! Skar for life!!
I picked one of these and a rp1200 up after not messing with car audio for years. I was impressed with the performance. Im actually going to upgrade to an EVL 12 soon just to get a better match with my amp. But all in all, after a month of owning it, I'm very happy with the setup. Nice review btw! it's good to see someone reviewing "budget" stuff. I don't think everyone realizes that you dont have to spend a ton of money to get a nice sounding setup.
Theyre alright. I have the dual 12 enclosure, and the carpet is coming from the side under the right sub. Other than that its a nice box. Heavy than a MFr!
Quality boxes are bit made of 5/8” mdf.. they are made of 1” face and 3/4” back and sides.. I will give them credit for making a decent box properly tuned and sized for the loaded sub packages they offer.. that is a lot more then many other companies can claim.. but quality they are not For those that are bit wood workers why this matters.. you can’t screw 5/8” mdf.. first of all screwing even 3/4” is not easy.. it will split very easy even when predrilled.. at 5/8” you can do nothing more then glue and use some 15g finish nails or some staples.. rip the carpet off one and if they used staples over cheaper finish nails I’d give them some credit there.. but fit the price you can’t hate them.. For the record a quality box.. with 1” face and 3/4” everything else will be dado Grover in at all joints.. glue alone is all you need cause the type of joints used.. this is 10x the time to do and why two boxes that look the same.. one costs $200 the other $600. Trust me the quality box will be handed down for generations. Skar boxes as hard as their subs hit will not stand the test if time.. they will slowly over hard use start to separate and leak air.. you wouldn’t even notice this most of the time especially in a covered box.. The single best thing you could do for them is remove the sub and use some cheap fiberglass or epoxy mix and coat the entire inside of them.. it will help with the lower build market also to last longer while not overly effecting the interior air space.. In theory all mdf boxes should be corner braces to ensure proper screw usage off the edges where mdf is weak. But this would make all boxes a little larger and companies too lazy to do this. They would rather sell you garbage materials in the smallest size and price possible then built it properly and charge another $30. You can make a 5/8” box good with bracing.. the issue is still a 5/8” front face will have deflection so you’re actually losing some power do to the box face flexing dampening the speaker.. So if you hitting 144 with 2 evl in the skar box and amp package.. (like many are) imagine what you would hit if the box wasn’t robbing you of output.. prob enough to place in a local spl comp with just $800 sub amp and wire combo package with big three upgrade added.. this is why people say box build is everything for sq and spl.. But like I said.. for a preloaded package it’s about the best out there maybe second to only jl’s offerings.. they tuned and sized the box specifically to the two speakers they offer in the boxes. That is a lot more then almost anyone else does.. kicked solo packages being the only other exclusion of the top of my head.. funny fact.. the skar boxes although most are sold with the side’s they are actually tuned to the evl’s lol.. they close though.. another fun fact.. given the specs.. although they both hit in these boxes.. the evl would do better sealed then ported.. it’s a .67 range speaker .. so it can work ok in porter it’s not ideal.. it the sdr is like a .58 it’s a sealed k my all day speaker yet they don’t even offer a sealed box.. and the soecs for sealed on the evl says 1.75? It should be like 1.25 similar to the sdr if you do the math based on the specifications sheet.. 🤷♂️ Honestly idk why they don’t offer sealed packages. For the size you could run 3 10’s in about the same total box size.. they could be selling one extra speaker for every package they sell for almost zero manufacturing costs.. they need some better in-house people who are a little better at math.. cause 3 10’s going to hit harder then 2 12’s and sound 10x better sealed.. they could do the same with 12’s as well but as they don’t offer a dual 15 setup profit to be made would be little less on paper.. plus 3 12’s won’t fit well in between the wheel wells of most cars with out a very angular box design which would make for some much deeper boxes then most would like seeing how 1/3 of cars already can’t fit the higher under the rear deck.. but they could get damn creative with some 8’s and 10’s
Budget or not these are bad ass...I have 2 of them and 2 of those boxes that I run in my home theater and sounds awesome. Bahaha plenty enough for the house.
How do you wire a sub to surround sound i have a Samsung surround sound in my room and a 12” L7 i want to use , i also just got these and a qbomb box for my car all cabin😂
@@madebymc9224 this is the amp I use Behringer NX3000D and I have it just under half way turned up and it's plenty so for even for sdr 2 15 will have enough power. I picked it up @ Amazon.
When I first ran with skar I had a single 12 vvx then upgraded to a 15 ddx and later the evl 15... I honestly feel that the ddx is so much better then most of skar line up even better then the evl
I agree..the EVL is a highly inefficient subwoofer, smaller motor, and less motor force then a DDX. And the 3" coil in that EVL isn't needed. The ddx is a great daily subwoofer.
@@Chuck_Sanders Would a 15 inch ddx be good on a RP 1200 @ 1 ohm? i know those ddx’s can take a lot more power than 1k i’ve seen them run on 1500-2k. I know that the ddx is also more relevant in regards to sound quality than their other subs… so would it sound good in a sealed box?
@@risketti7295 yes, it really would perform well. If your going to use a sealed box, I would recommend going about a half a cube, bigger then recommended, even up to 1 cube bigger. The ddx series is a great subwoofer, and many don't know it, but Jacob Fuller, actually designed that driver for Kevin. I don't think you'll be disappointed at all.
I can't believe you can get that much bass from Skar for $99 even though the Audiopipe is TOP DAWG at that price point.Skar pretty much has you covered on almost anyone's budget.Damn my guy Parker with ANOTHER grade A video great job homie.Can't wait to see the Sequoia build video. And I'm STILL voting to see the Savard Hi-Q 12 👍🏾🔊🔊🔊-🔊🔊🔊
These boxes are made of very hard paper not wood. It has 18 gauge wire rain to terminals not big enough for a Beefy sub. Great looking and sounding box I have one. It needed more cotton inside. I drilled holes in mine for bigger gauge wire rain straight to amp.. kind of a waste to use such small wire Skar you know we need big wire so do us all a favor and hook it up with big wire. Hey, Parker witch amp do u like better? your new Audiopipe or the Skar amp you had ?
Prefabricated box for me is just a temporary fix till I have the time to build custom box , being a carpenter is great for me but I get burnt out sometimes so grabbing a pre-fab is a short term thing usually or just use the same box from a different build , but I'll say right now it's all about the box guys you can run cheap subs in a great box and knock pictures off the wall
You do the best reviews on subs on RUclips. And this isn’t actually an opinion or just bc I like u. U generally are the only one that does it correctly. Mix of diff songs, diff angles, outside and the specks of it. I just wish wish u did some drive by’s with the subs so we could have a good idea but I won’t complain.
I think drive by's are a great idea. Usually the best gauge for how loud a sub online is, is from hearing it from outside the vehicle. That'd bring another dimension to it.
what would you recomend, two of these or an audiopipe TSPP312D4 and save a little money ($64 cheaper for 2), i am running an audiopipe apmi 1300 and its been great, but the shitty subs that i have give me no piece of mind (and theyre mismatched) because they are rated for 300 each. any advice would be great, though i think im going with the audiopipe because of the price and the knowledge that they are also a good brand.
@@jamesjones4309 Ehh lol...I would go with something like the svr at least. Sdr is good if you stay close to rms rating. There are better options these days for not much more money
Ikon I bought two skar ix-10s each rated at 200 watts, and I put them through give or take 500 watts to the pair all day and they handle it, they definitely make my car shake. I highly recommend them.
Just picked up one of these and put it in a sound ordinance box. Sounds great for under $200. Not every build needs to be extreme. Im running a 5ch infinity amp to my doors and 500rms from said amp to this sub.
Whenever i listen to decaf on these subs (i have 2 12 SDR), i make sure my dB slope is at 6db. When i listen to regular music, 12 dB. I adjust all on deck while keeping the dB switch on the amp at 0. I can play decaf all day on them at max volume.
@@trudeaumustgo1920 Who said it was a bass booster?? Lmfao. I know what it is. And what I do above is exactly what is reccomended by many. Studio should be played at 12db and Decaf at 6db.
I bought the sdr 12 and the 800.1 and have no regrets so far. I am a little nervous about the sdr longevity, but we will see how it goes 6 months down the kind. First couple weeks have been impressed at 25 percent.
I am a month in and have been pushing it pretty hard. All my friends have been very impressed as well. Doing the big 3 this week to try and help out my corollas electrical system.
@@Chris_G_541 what year corolla do you have? i heard my 2020 has a 200 amp alternator which is quite big . might not need big 3. i also have 800.1 have you checked the voltage drop?
Sub wooooouuufeerr, I love the sdr series I had two 10’s and they ran great still have them in my girls car but I upgraded to evls in a 4th basshead life. I even ripped the surround on one of the tens and put craft materials with e6000 to patch it, kicks hard to this day no coil rub or distortion. And I put them through a beating. People say skarbage but I haven’t sent one sub to the trash yet 🤞
@@Bowtiekindaguy , not really into uploading vids, I bought the SDR 18, and bought the Skar universal empty box seperate.Think the loaded sdr18 box is tuned at 32hz ,where the empty skar universal 18 box is tuned at 29 hz.
I think that is a pretty nice looking box and like u said if u build a box with the same specs it's not going to make that much of a difference i love ur videos bro thank for all u do 💯👍🏼👍🏼
The suspension is two fold. The mechanical and the electrical. The larger motor subs have more electrical control of the sub cone. So on the smaller motor sub they put a more robust mechanical resistance.
I just put 2 skar sdr 10 on a taramp 3k lowered gain of course compared to the 1000 watts it was giving the pressure is intense and they are much more live these are some tough subs
The kicker cvx 12 is a monster coming in 750 rms and 1500 max with hz response and 28hz. The first plastic cone subwoofer that sounds like a thick paper cone it's great sub that need it's time to shine.
Great video! Just friendly tip, you may wanna put all the agms on a trickle charger at some point before you install them, that way they are all topped off :)
You never disappoint man good vid. To me AP is like RF-bass head friendly. I’m going to upgrade my 12 inch mid bass just not sure witch sub I’m going to get, your a big help though. But I’m picking up bad habits and I’m now thinking for 2020 buyn a sub every other month or so cause I use to kinda collect subs when I was younger then as you get older you end up selling stuff you later regret cause you needed that new something right away. Cone surface is important I’m looking for sensitivity the old infinity reference I got from my buddy has high sensitivity but coil is less then 2inches and is used but is still going. Happy holidays!! I’m going to see what subs are on sale after Xmas.
I did the opposite in my youth. I bought a bunch of different subs but sold em off when I'd buy new ones. Now I really miss them. Had some awesome stuff. Now just memories because you can't find them any more.
I can say at the moment 2 sdr 10s on 1000 watts (ap) you can definitely feel it in your chest they have a nice deep sound I plan on doing 4 on a taramp 3k
You got a pretty decent channel going . I've watched you over the past year or so and you seem to be doing good. I want to ask you a favor, if you do test the savard high q please don't put it in the wrong box like you the emf lowballer. It is a lot better than you said it was you just have to put it in the right box. They are kind of sensitive to enclosure volume and tuning unlike the other cheap subs out there. The savards have a little more flexibility with enclosures, but I think you will be happy with the test results on them. They sound very clean and are very transient, and they push just as hard if not harder than the spl type subs around 200
@@paquesepas6696 ported box around 1.9 cubic feet. If you want to run above rms make it 1.7 cubes.if you want to run below rms ratings go 2.3. Tune it to 35hz . They recommend a 6 inch round port about 28 inches long. Parts express has a port calculator if you want to go slot port . Savard also has the best customer support on free enclosure design when u purchase a product. I would just buy from them directly so you can tell them what you want to do and what kind of space you are working with. They know a lot better than I do lol.
I just ordered this exact sub. They told me it'll be alright in my sealed box, I hope they're right. Update! I went ahead and ordered the SKAR vented armor-coated box. The combo kicks serious butt.
@@CaliLifeStyle8o5 - No, I haven't. I'm quite experienced in car audio, home audio, ran sound for a local band for years, etc. I've been doing my own installs since I was 16 or so. I'm in my mid 50's. I have no regrets going with the SKAR vented armored box. I've never been a fan of ports/vents, but this just sounds better each week as it breaks-in all the way. No slappy--echoey sound at all, very solid. I would be quite confident this would sound just as fantastic in a sealed box, too, just make sure your box is quality-built and has the right internal dimensions.
Johnny 24 Most drivers especially woofers/subwoofers will give off an odor. It’s just like the OP said, the resin is just burning off of it. It doesn’t hurt the sub as long as you’re not abusing the ever living shit out of it in its first initial hours.
Thank you for the vids i enjoy them. If you are going to keep swapping subs might want to use T nuts to keep from stripping out the screw holes over time.
Yeah please do I have 2 in my closet I'm installing in my Trans Am I have 2 SKV-2 1500.1s gonna run them strapped but I'm not installing until warmer weather
Love the video. It would be cool to see 2 of those against one of there higher priced ones see what the decibels are. I know it would be alot of work not asking you to. It would just be cool to see if its better to buy 2 cheaper subs or spend the same amount on a better model.
@@akidim13 that response makes no sense now that I read it.. sorry late night post. I was saying it gave me OCD that you didn't check if the wiring was real copper and what gauge it was lol
I ended up getting 2 svr 12s then all new wiring,amp,double din headunit, custome box and sum extra little stuff all came to around 900$ b4 i thought budget mabye cost 400-500 tops lol
There is no right or wrong answers and each vehicle is different. Experiment/test is the only way you want to experience for yourself to see which one you prefer.
I have 2 sdr 18” on a taramps 1.2k. I can burp 148s in my Honda Pilot. But it’s not an spl woofer...that being said it’s very musical even for an 18 it’s awesome
I got this exact setup with the rp800.1 ... this thing slams very nice in my mazda protege5. Most people come in my car and expect 2x12s or 2x10s when i tell them .. no its a prefab 12 inch single sub thats 300usd with the amp .. they really get impressed. Doesnt hit the lows crazy good but 30-50hz .. its a crazy nice sub. its my first experience with Skar and im really happy so far . I bump this thing all day long and she keeps going . Im actually waiting till she explodes but with my rp800 i think it wont . Even doe the amp is underratted. Would recommend to anyone who doesnt wanna spend crazy $$ on a setup and still get bumping on their daily rides. The amp does make your stock alternator suffer if you dont got Big3-4 upgrade and agm battery. shes power hungry
What is better/best sounding, the CT sounds tropo 12 or the Skar sdr 12. I don't know which one is the better buy and they're the same price. I had a 12 kicker compC and it did the job fine.
Park i just bought 2 of those i realize its been a year good video i tried wiring them up to skar 800.1 something wasn't right sending amp back for more power what audiopipe should i run om these speakers??
Depends on the surround if it's like this and wide then yeah it's not the greatest but if it's like the egg roll surround wide and tall the tallness will make up for the missing cone area because it moves further.
This sub doesn't need "egg roll" surround though because it's only 600WRMS, so it's not gonna have very much excursion in the first place. Look at sundown's U-series subs. They have more excursion than this sdr 12, but SMALLER surround. It's just not necessary unless you need crazy excursion.
Comparing this to the Audiopipe sub, is comparing apples to oranges. The Skar sub is less efficient, compared to the Audiopipe firstly. Second thing is, you were using different enclosures.. with different tuning. The Skar is better in smaller enclosures, but you were using their prefab tuned at 36hz... and playing WAY below tuning. You were unloading that Skar, creating tons of heat, therefore smelling the coil. If you're going to test different drivers, and play lower frequencies, tune accordingly. If you're testing similar size subwoofers, with similar recommendations for box volume.. build a test enclosure with an interchangeable port, for tuning up and down in the frequency bands. I'm not a brand hugger, and I don't brand bash either. That Audiopipe is a great budget sub, as is this Skar. I just recommend, that people shy away from, the EVL series. The EVL are horribly inefficient subwoofers, and the tsp's show that. The DDX is a great, all around daily subwoofer.
Any link to the box? I have a sealed stuffed .9 cu ft box for my RF P2 12" and while it's good, I feel I could be getting a lot better. Also have a 500w RF amp that rocks. Great video as always!
@@ParkerTheBasshead awesome, thanks! And thanks for the ❤️ been a fan of ya for a while now and seeing these budget videos always makes me smile, shows you can have good bass without breaking the bank!
How does that skar SVR compare to this one? I have the sdrs but i want to upgrade to either ddx or svr. I wanted EVL but with me getting a new amp those are slightly out of my price range. Getting the skar skv2 1500 for now and plan to run at .5
What's up parker how's is your Taramps 12k going did they replace it. I just got my Taramps 12k today and hooked it up to my 4 skar zvx 12s in a 6th order and wow what a difference I used to have them on a skar 4500w amp
i have this subwoofer on a MMATS LS1200.D1 600 watts rms at 2ohms and with the same box on this video and it does not sound ass loud or move as much. been having it for 4 months now. Also have a LC2i and it does not make any justice lol. I have a lexus is250 2015 and i cant upgrade the head unit. im not sure if its because of that. I am new to this. I paid for the installation but it does not sound as loud.
With a good system, you don't have to run "Bass" music primarily to show off subs. I used to blow people away in my old S10. 1 Memphis studio 10 in a band pass box on 140w... Irene Cara: What a feeling and Prince: When doves cry. Give a listen and you will be surprised!
I don’t know why they down talk skar so much I recently got an sdr 12 and it’s the best sub I’ve ever owned I’ve previously owned pioneer kicker comp vr Orion this skar sdr entry level sub hits loud low and clear and it’s only the entry level sub I run it on a kicker cxa800.1 at 1 ohm thing knocks compared to my old two comp vr 12s
Thinking about getting the bass package that comes with these to throw in my 09 Tahoe wanted the evl set but they don’t see to be selling them in the bass packages anymore.
@740ute Thanks for the info. Can get the 800 pretty cheap so that's what I will go with for now. Just ordered 2 of the sdr-10s from the black Friday sale. Pretty sure it will be a huge step up from what I have.
![[Skar] [SDR] 18 on 1,200w rms amp. loud as I could go. voltage cut amp out](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D1JQkViXcw8/mqdefault.jpg)
I now have the same sub and box. Since I have the RP1500 in my car, I wired the sub to a 4 ohm load. Can't believe how hard it hits.
Thank you so much for the videos.
Why 4 ohm? Especially if it’s dual 4ohm, wired it to 1 ohm.. you’ll get all the power.
@@MacThaGoat SO 4ohm is better than 2ohm
@@larsonfrederick7885 Noo, depending how your amp works. I got a hifonics Brutus. It depends on the sub you get too. With my amp at 1ohm I get all 2400w of the amp. I had to wire mine down to 2ohm due to the subs I got. So I’m only getting 1600w at 2ohm. At 4 I’ll be getting even lower power.. so like I said depending on amp an subs you got. Got to make sure you get everything so it works together well.. I never run 4ohm, that’s to low of power for me. I either wire mine to 1 or 2 ohm.
I did a 2007 GMC Yukon with 3 Skar SDR 12’s in a three 12 sealed custom 3rd row box. Trunk is bangin!!! In the process of editing the videos of the install to upload them to youtube. You cant beat it for the price! Skar for life!!
I picked one of these and a rp1200 up after not messing with car audio for years. I was impressed with the performance. Im actually going to upgrade to an EVL 12 soon just to get a better match with my amp. But all in all, after a month of owning it, I'm very happy with the setup. Nice review btw! it's good to see someone reviewing "budget" stuff. I don't think everyone realizes that you dont have to spend a ton of money to get a nice sounding setup.
Skar’s sub boxes are excellent quality( I won’tmbuild abother box anymore, when I need a new box bc of skar’s quality:)
The only problem is have with them is that they are tuned so high on their larger subs
Theyre alright. I have the dual 12 enclosure, and the carpet is coming from the side under the right sub. Other than that its a nice box. Heavy than a MFr!
I bought a sdr 15 in a box for 150$ new and then build a box and still couldn’t get the sound quality of the scar box
Quality boxes are bit made of 5/8” mdf.. they are made of 1” face and 3/4” back and sides.. I will give them credit for making a decent box properly tuned and sized for the loaded sub packages they offer.. that is a lot more then many other companies can claim.. but quality they are not
For those that are bit wood workers why this matters.. you can’t screw 5/8” mdf.. first of all screwing even 3/4” is not easy.. it will split very easy even when predrilled.. at 5/8” you can do nothing more then glue and use some 15g finish nails or some staples.. rip the carpet off one and if they used staples over cheaper finish nails I’d give them some credit there.. but fit the price you can’t hate them..
For the record a quality box.. with 1” face and 3/4” everything else will be dado Grover in at all joints.. glue alone is all you need cause the type of joints used.. this is 10x the time to do and why two boxes that look the same.. one costs $200 the other $600. Trust me the quality box will be handed down for generations. Skar boxes as hard as their subs hit will not stand the test if time.. they will slowly over hard use start to separate and leak air.. you wouldn’t even notice this most of the time especially in a covered box..
The single best thing you could do for them is remove the sub and use some cheap fiberglass or epoxy mix and coat the entire inside of them.. it will help with the lower build market also to last longer while not overly effecting the interior air space..
In theory all mdf boxes should be corner braces to ensure proper screw usage off the edges where mdf is weak. But this would make all boxes a little larger and companies too lazy to do this. They would rather sell you garbage materials in the smallest size and price possible then built it properly and charge another $30. You can make a 5/8” box good with bracing.. the issue is still a 5/8” front face will have deflection so you’re actually losing some power do to the box face flexing dampening the speaker..
So if you hitting 144 with 2 evl in the skar box and amp package.. (like many are) imagine what you would hit if the box wasn’t robbing you of output.. prob enough to place in a local spl comp with just $800 sub amp and wire combo package with big three upgrade added.. this is why people say box build is everything for sq and spl..
But like I said.. for a preloaded package it’s about the best out there maybe second to only jl’s offerings.. they tuned and sized the box specifically to the two speakers they offer in the boxes. That is a lot more then almost anyone else does.. kicked solo packages being the only other exclusion of the top of my head.. funny fact.. the skar boxes although most are sold with the side’s they are actually tuned to the evl’s lol.. they close though.. another fun fact.. given the specs.. although they both hit in these boxes.. the evl would do better sealed then ported.. it’s a .67 range speaker .. so it can work ok in porter it’s not ideal.. it the sdr is like a .58 it’s a sealed k my all day speaker yet they don’t even offer a sealed box.. and the soecs for sealed on the evl says 1.75? It should be like 1.25 similar to the sdr if you do the math based on the specifications sheet.. 🤷♂️
Honestly idk why they don’t offer sealed packages. For the size you could run 3 10’s in about the same total box size.. they could be selling one extra speaker for every package they sell for almost zero manufacturing costs.. they need some better in-house people who are a little better at math.. cause 3 10’s going to hit harder then 2 12’s and sound 10x better sealed.. they could do the same with 12’s as well but as they don’t offer a dual 15 setup profit to be made would be little less on paper.. plus 3 12’s won’t fit well in between the wheel wells of most cars with out a very angular box design which would make for some much deeper boxes then most would like seeing how 1/3 of cars already can’t fit the higher under the rear deck.. but they could get damn creative with some 8’s and 10’s
Budget or not these are bad ass...I have 2 of them and 2 of those boxes that I run in my home theater and sounds awesome. Bahaha plenty enough for the house.
Exactly. Idk why people buy svs subs when you can just throw some car subs in a box and get plenty of bass while maintaining SQ
How do you wire a sub to surround sound i have a Samsung surround sound in my room and a 12” L7 i want to use , i also just got these and a qbomb box for my car all cabin😂
Do you have any details on the build. plan on using 2x sdr15 in 6^3ft enclosures each tuned to 18 hz. currently debating on which amp I want to use.
@@madebymc9224 this is the amp I use Behringer NX3000D and I have it just under half way turned up and it's plenty so for even for sdr 2 15 will have enough power. I picked it up @ Amazon.
@@xtrmbrazen6153 are you using sealed or vented enclosure. What are the specs on the enclosure?
When I first ran with skar I had a single 12 vvx then upgraded to a 15 ddx and later the evl 15... I honestly feel that the ddx is so much better then most of skar line up even better then the evl
I agree..the EVL is a highly inefficient subwoofer, smaller motor, and less motor force then a DDX. And the 3" coil in that EVL isn't needed. The ddx is a great daily subwoofer.
@@Chuck_Sanders Would a 15 inch ddx be good on a RP 1200 @ 1 ohm? i know those ddx’s can take a lot more power than 1k i’ve seen them run on 1500-2k. I know that the ddx is also more relevant in regards to sound quality than their other subs… so would it sound good in a sealed box?
@@risketti7295 yes, it really would perform well. If your going to use a sealed box, I would recommend going about a half a cube, bigger then recommended, even up to 1 cube bigger. The ddx series is a great subwoofer, and many don't know it, but Jacob Fuller, actually designed that driver for Kevin. I don't think you'll be disappointed at all.
The DDX is better made than the other models. The EVL needs lotsa powa, and a huge ported to go beast mode.
Skar is one of the best bang for your money subs.
how about american bass
@@blownvoicecoil124 American Bass and soundqubed are also great budget subs!
I can't believe you can get that much bass from Skar for $99 even though the Audiopipe is TOP DAWG at that price point.Skar pretty much has you covered on almost anyone's budget.Damn my guy Parker with ANOTHER grade A video great job homie.Can't wait to see the Sequoia build video. And I'm STILL voting to see the Savard Hi-Q 12 👍🏾🔊🔊🔊-🔊🔊🔊
What makes you think audio pipe is 🔝🎩 🐶 doggy..Dog
Right on Park, great video for bass on a budget.. Skar makes great equipment for the $$$.
I'm excited for the budget subs
I have 2 sdr 10’s in my truck cab, in a custom built box ported and tuned to 30hz, very happy
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Its a prefab box but its made for Skar subs by Skar. Most people wont be able to build a box as well as that.
Exactly
These boxes are made of very hard paper not wood.
It has 18 gauge wire rain to terminals not big enough for a Beefy sub.
Great looking and sounding box I have one. It needed more cotton inside. I drilled holes in mine for bigger gauge wire rain straight to amp.. kind of a waste to use such small wire Skar you know we need big wire so do us all a favor and hook it up with big wire.
Hey, Parker witch amp do u like better? your new Audiopipe or the Skar amp you had ?
@@ckk689 👍
sweetness !
Prefabricated box for me is just a temporary fix till I have the time to build custom box , being a carpenter is great for me but I get burnt out sometimes so grabbing a pre-fab is a short term thing usually or just use the same box from a different build , but I'll say right now it's all about the box guys you can run cheap subs in a great box and knock pictures off the wall
I wouldnt call it pre fab. Closer to custom built for the sub
Honestly it did pretty good on the lows. Awesome little sub.
You do the best reviews on subs on RUclips. And this isn’t actually an opinion or just bc I like u. U generally are the only one that does it correctly. Mix of diff songs, diff angles, outside and the specks of it. I just wish wish u did some drive by’s with the subs so we could have a good idea but I won’t complain.
Thanks man I really appreciate you! Maybe I’ll do drivebys at some point when I have more room
I think drive by's are a great idea. Usually the best gauge for how loud a sub online is, is from hearing it from outside the vehicle. That'd bring another dimension to it.
Drive-by's are a good idea, or even just walking away from the car and doing a walk around.
This was my first sub I got and now that I'm more into car audio and I'm seeing all of these prices, 600watts for 100$ is well worth it
what would you recomend, two of these or an audiopipe TSPP312D4 and save a little money ($64 cheaper for 2), i am running an audiopipe apmi 1300 and its been great, but the shitty subs that i have give me no piece of mind (and theyre mismatched) because they are rated for 300 each. any advice would be great, though i think im going with the audiopipe because of the price and the knowledge that they are also a good brand.
I had the sdr 15 dvc 4 on 700 rms and it did really good for $129. Skar subs also have good sound quality for the price.
How did it hold up over the years
@@jamesjones4309 Ehh lol...I would go with something like the svr at least. Sdr is good if you stay close to rms rating. There are better options these days for not much more money
Anybody watching I bought 1 of these in the prefab box for my durango.. I love it skar has alot of bang for the buck for us on a budget...
Getting better, 🔥on the dBs most don't show the Decibels
Just watching this video bro, it’s crazy how far you have come along… I’ve been watching since the beginning. 👍
I've been seeing a lot of Skar lately for budget builds, I might use them
From what I heard skar is budget sundown
Ikon I bought two skar ix-10s each rated at 200 watts, and I put them through give or take 500 watts to the pair all day and they handle it, they definitely make my car shake. I highly recommend them.
For the price, they are really good
I just got 2 12's waiting for them to come in. Hoping for good things
@@codythepriceman1932 how are they? Im thinking about getting 2 sdr 12s
Just picked up one of these and put it in a sound ordinance box. Sounds great for under $200. Not every build needs to be extreme. Im running a 5ch infinity amp to my doors and 500rms from said amp to this sub.
Nice bro, what infinity amp to be exact?
@@role1694 Infinity REF4555A
Whenever i listen to decaf on these subs (i have 2 12 SDR), i make sure my dB slope is at 6db. When i listen to regular music, 12 dB. I adjust all on deck while keeping the dB switch on the amp at 0. I can play decaf all day on them at max volume.
Y do you that
Lol the slope isnt a bass booster
@@trudeaumustgo1920 Who said it was a bass booster?? Lmfao. I know what it is. And what I do above is exactly what is reccomended by many. Studio should be played at 12db and Decaf at 6db.
Every cd player clips the signal before max volume as well
@@trudeaumustgo1920 Max volume i use isn't with the dial all the way up... You assuming way too much. You just wanna argue with someone, huh? Lol.
I bought the sdr 12 and the 800.1 and have no regrets so far. I am a little nervous about the sdr longevity, but we will see how it goes 6 months down the kind. First couple weeks have been impressed at 25 percent.
I am a month in and have been pushing it pretty hard. All my friends have been very impressed as well. Doing the big 3 this week to try and help out my corollas electrical system.
@@Chris_G_541 what year corolla do you have? i heard my 2020 has a 200 amp alternator which is quite big . might not need big 3. i also have 800.1 have you checked the voltage drop?
I have a 2002.I had to switch to kicker subwoofers at 2ohm.
If I took the amp up to just before clipping I would drop to 10volts.
Sub wooooouuufeerr, I love the sdr series I had two 10’s and they ran great still have them in my girls car but I upgraded to evls in a 4th basshead life. I even ripped the surround on one of the tens and put craft materials with e6000 to patch it, kicks hard to this day no coil rub or distortion. And I put them through a beating. People say skarbage but I haven’t sent one sub to the trash yet 🤞
What rms are you running to your evls? 12s, 15s?
Silvereagle90000 I have 3 15’s on a md5k atm but plan on upgrading soon
@@tidobass6048 That must bump. Upgrade your electrical?
@@tidobass6048 How'd the E6000 work? I plan on repairing some Kicker l5's with it
The people who say "skarbage" are the same people who drop $900 on a single 12" sub when they could literally buy NINE Skar sdr 12s instead.
Another good video Parker. We bassheads appreciate it.
Love my SDR 18" , ordering my other Skar SDR 18" after the holidays!!
You should upload a quik vid on your sdr 18 im debating on getting the preloaded sdr 18
@@Bowtiekindaguy , not really into uploading vids, I bought the SDR 18, and bought the Skar universal empty box seperate.Think the loaded sdr18 box is tuned at 32hz ,where the empty skar universal 18 box is tuned at 29 hz.
@@johnsneen424 ok cool so how many watts do you have running to your sdr..i seen the skar channel had the rp800.1 and it was thumping pretty good
@@Bowtiekindaguy 850 watts at 2 ohms, soon after the holidays I'll be ordering the other 18, building the box. Then wire down to 1 ohm at 1250 watts
@@johnsneen424 awesome..i appreciate you answering my ?s
I think that is a pretty nice looking box and like u said if u build a box with the same specs it's not going to make that much of a difference i love ur videos bro thank for all u do 💯👍🏼👍🏼
Honestly, the thing I'm most impressed with is how amazing this guy's mic picked up the bass with no distortion. What was this recorded on?
Probley cause the sub is not loud enof to destort the mic
@@Jay-uw9qr It def is lol
The suspension is two fold. The mechanical and the electrical. The larger motor subs have more electrical control of the sub cone. So on the smaller motor sub they put a more robust mechanical resistance.
I just put 2 skar sdr 10 on a taramp 3k lowered gain of course compared to the 1000 watts it was giving the pressure is intense and they are much more live these are some tough subs
I have a evl in one of those boxes and it actually sounds pretty good. Not any thing like most prefab boxes
Yeah I’ve been very impressed with it
Think the EVL would push just fine with the RP800.1D amp? I’ve burnt up two of these SDRs.
The kicker cvx 12 is a monster coming in 750 rms and 1500 max with hz response and 28hz. The first plastic cone subwoofer that sounds like a thick paper cone it's great sub that need it's time to shine.
I love what your doing bro. Keep the vids coming
Great video!
Just friendly tip, you may wanna put all the agms on a trickle charger at some point before you install them, that way they are all topped off :)
Thanks man! I have a trickle charger and they are all charged up and ready to go!
You never disappoint man good vid. To me AP is like RF-bass head friendly. I’m going to upgrade my 12 inch mid bass just not sure witch sub I’m going to get, your a big help though. But I’m picking up bad habits and I’m now thinking for 2020 buyn a sub every other month or so cause I use to kinda collect subs when I was younger then as you get older you end up selling stuff you later regret cause you needed that new something right away. Cone surface is important I’m looking for sensitivity the old infinity reference I got from my buddy has high sensitivity but coil is less then 2inches and is used but is still going. Happy holidays!! I’m going to see what subs are on sale after Xmas.
I did the opposite in my youth. I bought a bunch of different subs but sold em off when I'd buy new ones. Now I really miss them. Had some awesome stuff. Now just memories because you can't find them any more.
I can say at the moment 2 sdr 10s on 1000 watts (ap) you can definitely feel it in your chest they have a nice deep sound I plan on doing 4 on a taramp 3k
Nice! Im going for their 2 sdr 12s in their prefab box tuned to 32 hertz. Do you think it will be a good invest?
paul wenzel yes they handle the lows nicely and still take 1800 rms each easily from my taramp 3k
You got a pretty decent channel going . I've watched you over the past year or so and you seem to be doing good. I want to ask you a favor, if you do test the savard high q please don't put it in the wrong box like you the emf lowballer. It is a lot better than you said it was you just have to put it in the right box. They are kind of sensitive to enclosure volume and tuning unlike the other cheap subs out there. The savards have a little more flexibility with enclosures, but I think you will be happy with the test results on them. They sound very clean and are very transient, and they push just as hard if not harder than the spl type subs around 200
What box is perfect for a 12 hiq savard?
@@paquesepas6696 ported box around 1.9 cubic feet. If you want to run above rms make it 1.7 cubes.if you want to run below rms ratings go 2.3. Tune it to 35hz . They recommend a 6 inch round port about 28 inches long. Parts express has a port calculator if you want to go slot port . Savard also has the best customer support on free enclosure design when u purchase a product. I would just buy from them directly so you can tell them what you want to do and what kind of space you are working with. They know a lot better than I do lol.
Running 1 sdr12 in a 2.3cu ft enclosure tuned to 33hz built by me and that slaps running power from an Alpine mrv m500. Thing bangs
CCA means copper-clad aluminum. And it’s the tinsel leads not the voice coil.
SOME pre fab boxes are pretty good.
The audio pipe sub you mentioned in the skar box would be nice to see
My thoughts too
Me too
I just ordered this exact sub. They told me it'll be alright in my sealed box, I hope they're right.
Update! I went ahead and ordered the SKAR vented armor-coated box. The combo kicks serious butt.
Did you try it in a sealed box ?
@@CaliLifeStyle8o5 - No, I haven't. I'm quite experienced in car audio, home audio, ran sound for a local band for years, etc. I've been doing my own installs since I was 16 or so. I'm in my mid 50's. I have no regrets going with the SKAR vented armored box. I've never been a fan of ports/vents, but this just sounds better each week as it breaks-in all the way. No slappy--echoey sound at all, very solid. I would be quite confident this would sound just as fantastic in a sealed box, too, just make sure your box is quality-built and has the right internal dimensions.
@@PureBlood42 ok thanks. I want more of a sq than spl so I wanted to know how they will sound in a sealed box.
@@CaliLifeStyle8o5 - You're welcome. Have fun building your system!
Stinking is ok, it's brand new. Give subs a period (couple weeks or so) of soft break-in and the manufacturing resins burn off.
In my opinion with brand new subs stinking is never ok. Sub was just getting too hot.
@@paquesepas6696 sub was also not broke in so of course it's going to get hot and stink
Johnny 24 Most drivers especially woofers/subwoofers will give off an odor. It’s just like the OP said, the resin is just burning off of it. It doesn’t hurt the sub as long as you’re not abusing the ever living shit out of it in its first initial hours.
Thank you for the vids i enjoy them.
If you are going to keep swapping subs might want to use T nuts to keep from stripping out the screw holes over time.
Would love to see a test of the qbomb horn port sub box
Damn bro I can’t wait for your Taramps vid
Yeah hopefully they send me the replacement soon!
Please try a review on the vxf 12 skar subwoofer.......nice videos btw👏
I plan to soon!
Yeah please do I have 2 in my closet I'm installing in my Trans Am I have 2 SKV-2 1500.1s gonna run them strapped but I'm not installing until warmer weather
@@davidengland6741 nice
Another vote for the Skar VXF 12!
@Hammerback0 nice
Like the budget sub route you are going.
Yeah man! Should be lots of good content coming out soon
Great review my friend, keep up the good work.
Love my sdr 12!
appreciate the video,i bought two of these but haven't hooked them up yet..
Love the video. It would be cool to see 2 of those against one of there higher priced ones see what the decibels are. I know it would be alot of work not asking you to. It would just be cool to see if its better to buy 2 cheaper subs or spend the same amount on a better model.
I was thinking about the same thing! 2x 12" SDR on the 1200 rms amp or the 1x 12" ZVX on 1500 rms amp.
My OCD kicked in because I must know what gauge scars prefab wiring is and if it's CCA. You eased my mind a little bit by predrilling so thank you lol
What you mean ?
@@akidim13 that response makes no sense now that I read it.. sorry late night post. I was saying it gave me OCD that you didn't check if the wiring was real copper and what gauge it was lol
@@rmblwgn oh lol haha, okay I see now , because I bought the same box and thought the wiring from factory was bad was what you were trying to say
Would like to see the American bass and audiopipe on this box on same songs where this started to smell. Great video.
I ended up getting 2 svr 12s then all new wiring,amp,double din headunit, custome box and sum extra little stuff all came to around 900$ b4 i thought budget mabye cost 400-500 tops lol
Does that box do better to face the sub up or towards the back glass?
There is no right or wrong answers and each vehicle is different. Experiment/test is the only way you want to experience for yourself to see which one you prefer.
I have 2 sdr 18” on a taramps 1.2k. I can burp 148s in my Honda Pilot.
But it’s not an spl woofer...that being said it’s very musical even for an 18 it’s awesome
I think you should paint your box at least with some Truck bed paint. Its been bare way too long. That Skar box looks clean in your car.
I got this exact setup with the rp800.1 ... this thing slams very nice in my mazda protege5. Most people come in my car and expect 2x12s or 2x10s when i tell them .. no its a prefab 12 inch single sub thats 300usd with the amp .. they really get impressed. Doesnt hit the lows crazy good but 30-50hz .. its a crazy nice sub. its my first experience with Skar and im really happy so far . I bump this thing all day long and she keeps going . Im actually waiting till she explodes but with my rp800 i think it wont . Even doe the amp is underratted. Would recommend to anyone who doesnt wanna spend crazy $$ on a setup and still get bumping on their daily rides. The amp does make your stock alternator suffer if you dont got Big3-4 upgrade and agm battery. shes power hungry
any update?
how did you set up your amp?
LAF by Rittz bumps !!! 🔥🔥
I can't help but comment that I feel the audiopipe bd2 12" still seems to have the upper hand.
That's because you are 100% correct.
My money is on the Skar honestly.
@@MysteriousSystems ay atleast we all putting our money where our mouth is😂 on the budget subs is where it's at.
Fi audio
Harmony
What is better/best sounding, the CT sounds tropo 12 or the Skar sdr 12. I don't know which one is the better buy and they're the same price. I had a 12 kicker compC and it did the job fine.
There was no chance of seeing the song You showed on your phone on youtube lol it wss incredibly blurry! What was the song with 25hz
Your mic sounds good, doesn't distort too badly. Did you capture the spl on this budget test? We must have our numbers now, lol
Yes the SPL test is in the video
Surround size shouldn’t matter, i think the inner half of the surround still is considered cone area. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Another great video dudeski!!!!
Thank you!!
Do a review on the Orion xtr 12d4
Yes please!
Yes! I bought 4 on Ebay for $260! Cheap thunder in my home stereo! 124D's
I think it would be much better and a lot more accurate if you broke in the subs first, then did your review and testing on them
Try green gucci suit by gucci mane the bass boosted version😉😉😉
Park i just bought 2 of those i realize its been a year good video i tried wiring them up to skar 800.1 something wasn't right sending amp back for more power what audiopipe should i run om these speakers??
Depends on the surround if it's like this and wide then yeah it's not the greatest but if it's like the egg roll surround wide and tall the tallness will make up for the missing cone area because it moves further.
This sub doesn't need "egg roll" surround though because it's only 600WRMS, so it's not gonna have very much excursion in the first place. Look at sundown's U-series subs. They have more excursion than this sdr 12, but SMALLER surround. It's just not necessary unless you need crazy excursion.
Well I mean it only stinks because the sub is still new after it gets broken in it shouldn't smell & have more flex on it so seems like a good sub...
An FYI these boxes at build for a few subs from Skar.....IX and I believe SDR and one of the other lines
Vxf coming soon 😏
I hope so!
Box is tuned to 36hz, but you played songs that get down to 25hz? Any issues you hear or smell would be caused by playing below box tuning.
Comparing this to the Audiopipe sub, is comparing apples to oranges. The Skar sub is less efficient, compared to the Audiopipe firstly. Second thing is, you were using different enclosures.. with different tuning. The Skar is better in smaller enclosures, but you were using their prefab tuned at 36hz... and playing WAY below tuning. You were unloading that Skar, creating tons of heat, therefore smelling the coil. If you're going to test different drivers, and play lower frequencies, tune accordingly. If you're testing similar size subwoofers, with similar recommendations for box volume.. build a test enclosure with an interchangeable port, for tuning up and down in the frequency bands. I'm not a brand hugger, and I don't brand bash either. That Audiopipe is a great budget sub, as is this Skar. I just recommend, that people shy away from, the EVL series. The EVL are horribly inefficient subwoofers, and the tsp's show that. The DDX is a great, all around daily subwoofer.
Do you think one 10' inch skar would bump hard and have nice bass for a 2018 nissan maxima? or should i get a 12 inch?
Any link to the box? I have a sealed stuffed .9 cu ft box for my RF P2 12" and while it's good, I feel I could be getting a lot better. Also have a 500w RF amp that rocks. Great video as always!
It is on Amazon. 89.99
@@ParkerTheBasshead awesome, thanks! And thanks for the ❤️ been a fan of ya for a while now and seeing these budget videos always makes me smile, shows you can have good bass without breaking the bank!
Ryan King if that p2 stops kicking, a sundown e12 or a p3 12 would kill it
How does that skar SVR compare to this one? I have the sdrs but i want to upgrade to either ddx or svr. I wanted EVL but with me getting a new amp those are slightly out of my price range. Getting the skar skv2 1500 for now and plan to run at .5
What's up parker how's is your Taramps 12k going did they replace it. I just got my Taramps 12k today and hooked it up to my 4 skar zvx 12s in a 6th order and wow what a difference I used to have them on a skar 4500w amp
I send it back so hopefully they will be sending me the replacement soon!
Should have done spl at 45-50 hz. Box size and tuning would probably peak around there.
This things gna rattle the hell out of my two door 😮
I got 2 ten inch sdrs so that I can get crazy bass and they go hard 100% recomend
Looks almost identical to the ma audios that vanished
WOW they look exactly like the MASSIVE AUDIO GTX series .
I was thinking that cuz I own 2
They take a hellova lot more watts than rated I know I have 2 on a skar 2k amp at 1ohm
Which model sub you have?
FREDDIE ROSS sdr 12s d4
Been running one, good for the $$
Just curious how would this sub do in a small angled truck box with a 3/4” spacer ring ...love ur vids
i have this subwoofer on a MMATS LS1200.D1 600 watts rms at 2ohms and with the same box on this video and it does not sound ass loud or move as much. been having it for 4 months now. Also have a LC2i and it does not make any justice lol. I have a lexus is250 2015 and i cant upgrade the head unit. im not sure if its because of that. I am new to this. I paid for the installation but it does not sound as loud.
How about psi or fi or maby savard subwoofer
Love the video how many watts on the amplifier
I would love to see the Wolfram ag12!!
With a good system, you don't have to run "Bass" music primarily to show off subs. I used to blow people away in my old S10. 1 Memphis studio 10 in a band pass box on 140w... Irene Cara: What a feeling and Prince: When doves cry. Give a listen and you will be surprised!
I don’t know why they down talk skar so much I recently got an sdr 12 and it’s the best sub I’ve ever owned I’ve previously owned pioneer kicker comp vr Orion this skar sdr entry level sub hits loud low and clear and it’s only the entry level sub I run it on a kicker cxa800.1 at 1 ohm thing knocks compared to my old two comp vr 12s
Was this a 15 or 12*
Thinking about getting the bass package that comes with these to throw in my 09 Tahoe wanted the evl set but they don’t see to be selling them in the bass packages anymore.
Is that box true to what they say at 2 cubes and 36hz? Can you measure and check? Also what port area per cubic foot is the box?
How do the SDR and IX compare? I have two IX10D4s and an RP-350.1D and was wondering if it would be worth it to move to two SDR 10s and an RP-800.1D.
@740ute Thanks for the info. Can get the 800 pretty cheap so that's what I will go with for now. Just ordered 2 of the sdr-10s from the black Friday sale. Pretty sure it will be a huge step up from what I have.
Get a SDR 18 “ that would be great !