Whenever you hear outlandish comments like that, there’s a strong likelihood the other person is masking their own trauma, orrrr they really don’t understand
And those religions that say that they are the "True Church", but they are run by people who are narcissists, enriching themselves at their members' expense (just like the Kim Dynasty of North Korea). There is such one influential church here in the Philippines.
That's certainly true for some, but I think that this saying has some issues. I was raised in a very literalist Christian family, and people in churches would say this as a way to ignore that some people found the beliefs to be unreliable. It's easier to say that someone left because they were "offended" than it is to say that they left because they think you're wrong and that they have reasons for it.
It wouldn't be a problem if people did evangelism the correct way. 1.Provide information 2. Answer questions 3. Let them make the choice Extra credit: give reading material, a Bible, and a card with your number if they have more questions. You can do a follow up but only if they want to. If they are cool with everything you can invite them to your church. If not leave them alone. You did your best.
10 years ago when I was experiencing depression, I was led by a sociopath to a church focused on "the truth" and "spreading the gospel" rather than empathy and compassion. I've been working on recovering from the resulting c-PTSD every day since. Thank you for this validating video.
Unfortunately, it's a real thing. A friend of mine was forced by her parents to go to church until she was 23. When she told them that she decided to leave the church, her parents were really infuriated, telling her she was going to burn in hell, that she'll never succeed in her life, and other abhorrent things they told her. She is now a CEO and has two children, living happily with her husband. Dear religious people (especially Christians and Muslims), I respect your religion. However, remember that forcing anyone to follow your religion is the worst way (from far) to make them believe your God. This is the kind of situation that makes people leaving churches.
@@npcimknot958 I don't force people into religion. If you read entirely the message, you would see that I made this comment as a warning for people forcing anyone to follow their religion.
Think that's something? Try being duped into returning to CCD classes--to get your confirmation... after already being asked to leave, due to lack of participation and not being able to get along with classmates whom were the same kids that'd crap on you at school--simply because your father duped you into it immediately after waking from an accident that nearly killed you... which was the end result of something those same kids did! BTW: I cheated on the test... because I couldn't remember anything after the second question... and despite getting confirmed, we gave-up on the church, because they just kept asking more & more of us. The church is supposed to be there for the people, mainly... not the other way around.😕
Don't forget the fact that someone that reflect and rationalize might start to doubt, just by reading scientific articles that says thing against religions. Like the creation, it's obvious that it was the bing bang.
For those who have experienced trauma, I wish you the best in healing. I hope you find yourself surrounded by loving people in a place where you can grow and nurture a better life.❤
that pastor had never read the bible Psalms 149:3: "Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp." Ecclesiastes 3:4: "A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance." Psalms 30:11: "Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness." Exodus 15:20: "The Israelites Celebrate God’s Victory with Dance." 2 Samuel 6:14: "David Dances Before the Lord."
I want to be religious, but it just feels like my parents are forcing me into it and that is one of the main reasons why I’m so anxious about the smallest stuff. My parents get upset over the smallest things. If I’m going to be religious, I want to choose that for myself, not get forced or guilt tripped or manipulated into it in any way.
Your parents are assholes, they may be overcompensating for their sins vicariously through you. Dont sweat it, alot of the things they get upset are definitely not based in the Bible.
Do whatever you go for, they hate it and you love it. Just be religious, totally support you. I’m bit religious, not right there. I do pray at home / anywhere and my parents are proud I am.
I think it's also important to note the difference between religion and spirituality. At least for me, they are two different things because one is tied to an organization, and the other is tied to a relationship with a higher power(whoever that may be for you). I personally stopped being religious but never stopped being spiritual. However, many of my friends stopped both(and yes we remained friends)
I was traumatized by a hell-fire and brimstone christian preacher when I was maybe 7 at the oldest. My grandma took me to her church when this preacher was visiting to do a guest sermon and he ranted and raved about demons walking in the aisles of the pews whispering things to you to not believe him and was literally trying to scare people into faith, even though I'm sure 99% of everyone in that church was already christian (it was a small town with like 5 different churches at the very least). He yelled about how you'd go to hell and how everyone deserves to go to hell and you're only safe from that if you're saved and childhood me still barely understood the concept of being saved so by the time it was all over I was in the midst of one of my first anxiety attacks and absolutely convinced I was going to hell no matter what I did. My grandma tried her best to comfort me, but I never wanted to go back to that church and my parents were really upset she even took me in the first place. The worst part is I don't think she even knew the preacher was like that. Unfortunately this isn't the only traumatic experience I've had involving religion. My best friend growing up went to a church way outside of town. This church was probably just as bad as the previous preacher, but in different ways. I was closer to 10 by this time. Rather than being hell-fire and brimstone, this church was the type that believed the only way you could be saved was by speaking in tongues. On top of that, this was also the kind of church to believe in doomsday predictions and conspiracy theories. My first time going there, I misread the sign on the way in as saying "apocalystic" rather than "apostolic," which honestly sounds unrelated, but thinking back on it it's really fitting. So we get there. Things are pretty normal at first, they're doing a sermon and singing songs, then they get to like a second sermon sort of thing, and then the whole church of like 20-something people erupts into crying and speaking in tongues. I don't know what to do with myself. Even my friend has joined in. I just have to sit there and have a panic attack while trying to hide it. After my friend is done, he comes back to sit with me while everyone else is still speaking in tongues and brings this magazine where the front cover is a picture of a nuclear explosion with big letters pasted over it that say "ONE THIRD OF MANKIND WILL DIE. ...In the next 6 months?" My friend told me he just wanted me to be aware and I read through this thing, but don't finish until we get back to his place and I'm still panicked and absolutely terrified that the world is going to end and that we're going to all be nuked and it gets to the point that in my hysteria I'm convinced that I'm a person mentioned in the Bible asking an angel how long this war is going to take (and by the way, the guy who wrote this magazine is convinced it's going to be a three and a half year long nuclear war.) By the time I get home, I'm pretty upset and my parents don't let me go to my friend's place for a while. And then I went again! This time my friend said it wouldn't be like last time as it was more of a youth program, but still held by the same church. I don't remember much about it, but what I do remember, was another friend of mine was there as he was somehow convinced to visit. I can't remember if there was a small puppet show or not, but I don't remember liking it. Then a guy comes to the front of the crowd of kids and starts getting them to speak in tongues. I have to excuse myself to the restroom while this happens because I'm having another panic attack. They're done by the time I come back out. Then we go to another building and they have like a small local rock band there to play kids christian songs and while that's going on another member of the church is speaking in tongues randomly while we're trying to listen to and participate in the music and I guess she's trying to bless all the kids or something because she comes around touching the shoulders of kids while she's speaking in tongues. At the time I found it a little funny, but now I'm a bit more respectful of it, and yet I can't shake the creepy vibe away from it all. I don't think my parents were happy with me going to that either. Unlike my grandma, my friend was very aware of what he was doing and where he was taking me, but he was convinced it was the only way to save me or something. It's still upsetting to think about this stuff to this day (over 20 years later) and I really need to address all of this with my therapist still. I'm honestly surprised I kept my faith at all.
Religious trauma is the number one reason, why is so many people are walking away from religion. The problem is so many priests pastors and youth pastors use their power to abuse people. Often it's to abused women and children... And then cover up the abuse...
It's not always bad leadership or traditionally defined abuse. I left because of the rampant bigotry and hypocrisy combined with the absolutely rancid theology. After spending over a decade trapped in that religion, both the "god" and his followers are terrible.
@@jfk4589 Jesus always loves you a lot! Praise the Lord! Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength! HAVE FAITH! REPENT! TRUST IN GOD! ✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
For me, definitely exists because I was raised with an emotionally abusive and very narcissistic mother who twisted religion in anyway possible to get what SHE wanted. Even to the point that saying that straightening one's hair was haram. Saying that basic hygiene was also haram. I hated it so much
Got mixed up with an apostolic Christian community, that tried to make their religion their whole personality. Very cultish and tried to make me feel bad for just being me. Left and over the years after I began to resent God, but eventually I realized it isn’t God who is the asshole it’s the people who grift off his name so they can manipulate others. These days I’m in a non denominational Christian group where I am much happier, and made many friends. They love Christ but that’s not all there is to them.
The problem with religion is that it facilitates gaslighting and abuse. And at the same time it learns you to be ok with abuse because The Lord wants you to forgive anybody, regardless of what the abuser has done you wrong. All to see the abusers living better lives than you can do, because you're dealing with the depressions, addictions, burnout, debts, homelessness, PTSD and CPTSD, that their abuse has caused. Where is The Lord to punish those abusers and send them for eternity to Hell? Even the religious sexual abuse in families, but also in churches, all behind closed doors, is meant to 'worship and honor The Lord'. That's the mantra they abuse. There have been many churches, monasteries, orphanages and mental asylums where sexual abuse became the norm. It's a widespread problem in the Catholic church and a huge stain on their appearantly not so holy image. Religion is full of hypocrisy. So what is God? Good? Evil? Or just an imaginary friend?
I'm atheist and I am for this reason, so many problems in this community is overlooked and it can lead to lifelong problems. I don't have good experiences with Christians. My grandpa died when I was six and ever since my parents have been forcing me to go to church, knowing that my siblings were uncomfortable about it because it was so sudden. I had an argument with my mom about it and she snapped, she said "I'm tired of the disrespect, I go to church because I need to belive your grandad is out there somewhere, and if I go you have to go too". And as if more recently my dad has become creepy about it, making more sexist remarks on my sister's and my appearance. And forcing us too read more of the Bible and pray more. And honestly this wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the intentions behind it. I told my friends that I didn't like to go to church and stuff and they took it as me hating all Christians, but that's not what I mean. I just don't like that I have to do all these things so my parents feel better abouts themselves.
@@Caspiantheimp I'm not religious. However I do have a spiritual mindset. God couldn't come to fix my traumas. So in my mind, I became my own psychiatrist, my own therapist, my own best friend. All archetypes. Trauma translates into spirituality as a curse. A curse needs to be lifted. So in my mind, I needed to become my own alchemist, my own sorcerer to be able to lift my own curses. That's how deep my self inquiry went on spirituality.
Religions don't facilitate anything. Religions are ideas. And people twist those ideas to fit their narratives. The pig will always find mud, you know. So because of some Christians or Muslims or whatever, saying that religions as a whole facilitate abuse and gaslighting is just ignorant. People are evil. satan is evil. God is perfect. I'm a Christian, but I won't push anything. I'm just saying that you must differentiate people from religion. Because religions, for a lack of a better term, are tools, which can be used for both good and bad. Early Christian churches helped each other, people gave all their possessions to the church, and it was a very healthy and friendly environment. And then satan came and corrupted it all, making all those divisions, that are completely useless and retarded, but people listen to them. God is good. People and satan are not.
The problem is and always will be the people, no matter the religion or ideology, especially if it was supposed to be good because there will always be someone to misuse it and get away with it.
When I was 13, I told my Mom that I was self harming. She told me that I'm demonic multiple times. It took a long time for me to realize that wasn't true.
I had a habit of scratching the paints off the wall and playing with textures like wheat flour and dust..... my mom always says I am a demon or a jinn is behind me..... or even I'm doing a sinful act I don't even understand how?
i am not religious anymore ever since my parent is strict on things i did. (like, being modest, not allowed to swear, cant be friends with bad people etc.) It was hard growing up since you are limited things and i did not make a lot of friends I wont say being religious is bad, its just, dont force it on people who dont want it.
Same. I feel like the true path of religion, although I have not experienced it, is manipulated by society according to their whims and fancies. While I was raised by loving and concerned parents, I was made to feel guilty about the smallest of things and I hated that. I love my family but, I wish they respected my opinion. (They just see me as egoistic and arrogant) To add, a religious person isn't always good and vice versa; a non-religious person isn't always bad.
@@BlackWinds I understand where you and my parents are coming from however, protecting your child can only do so much; especially by trying to hide and not talk about it. Instead you can make your child aware of the same evils and how to protect themselves and others, so that they know how to deal with it if ever faced with one. Adding to the guilt part, I think it just increases the mindset of blaming the victim rather than trying to help. Again, I know my parents don't have any malice or ill-intent but equating having different choices and being independent to sinful and arrogant isn't right either.
I’m Christian and I don’t think I’ve been through religious trauma per se, but definitely some tough times. My heart goes out to all please with religious trauma of any kind. I hope you get the help you need to heal.
@@Simke8 Jesus always loves you a lot! Praise the Lord! Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength! HAVE FAITH! REPENT! TRUST IN GOD! ✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
@@plantingseeds_official making the same comment to everyone makes it look like you are a formulaic follower who hasn't thought it through. This topic requires a more personal approach.
@@plantingseeds_officialRiiiight. 🙄😂 The thing about narcissists is, they only love themselves. Your God/Jesus, is no exception only a greater toxic form of narcissism.
Our religion should cause love and affection, peace and harmony, kindness, generosity and unity. We should remember that our religion can be used also, as a tool to control and manipulated. Be aware of it and support others.💙
It’s not just religion ! Science is one of the causes that killed many people on this planet apart from religion and politics ! Like the psychology itself ! And the goal of Psych 2 go like this channel is to invent things that do not exist and you see that this channel does not like religion at all ! It’s his opponent, all they see in their brains is that everyone has trauma or we called « False Trauma » To invent a trauma that does not exist to eliminate religion ! This is what we call politics ! And if you resist because they can not manipulate you and suddenly they arrive with their favorite vocabulary "NARCISSISM" 😂🤣😂🤣but if you follow their ideologies ", you are "EMPATH" or I do not know what! Whether religion, politics or science and psychology use this technique! Nowadays there are "sectarians of psychotherapy" ie they will use the patient as an experience as like the person have a trauma while you have and their goal is to control your emotion and thought because they do not like religion ! It’s BATTLE between « SCIENCE » and RELIGION 😂🤣😂🤣 In any case, for me, I am neutral ! I don’t like to belong to any religion or politics even less to science and psychology! I know those fields very well ! But analyze things well! This channel is a secular psychotherapy cult and everyone for them has traumas ! They invent all these things to better control them ! It’s their policy ! It’s manipulation !
Not only religion ! Politics, science and specifically psychology also uses sectarian drifts of psychotherapy! This channel doesn’t like religion ! It’s part of their politics ! It’s the war between religion and psychology ! (Science) 🤣😂🤣 Or rather who controls the best ! The techniques are different but the principles are the same ! And science is a tool that has killed many billions of people after religion and politics (World War) ! There is what is called « sectarian drift in psychotherapy ». The therapeutic drift becomes sectarian when it tries to make the patient adhere to a belief, to a new way of thinking. The pseudo-practitioner asks the patient to have confidence in him because he alone has the «miracle» method able to cure him: there is indoctrination.
Not only religion! Politics, science and specifically psychology also uses sectarian drifts of psychotherapy! This channel doesn’t like religion! It’s part of their politics! It’s the war between religion and psychology! Or rather who controls the best! The techniques are different but the principles are the same! And science is a tool that has killed many billions of people after religion! There is what is called "sectarian drift in psychotherapy"! The therapeutic drift becomes sectarian when it tries to make the patient adhere to a belief, to a new way of thinking. The pseudo-practitioner asks the patient to have confidence in him because he alone has the «miracle» method able to cure him: there is indoctrination.
I dont know if this counts as religious trauma but growing up, I've always been told being part of the LGBTQ+ community was a sin. I am transmasc(more specifically AFAB), I've always wanted to be a boy, but when i told my parents this, they just lectured me on how I should be grateful for what God made me and how I'm still too young to know this. This honestly made me really bottle up and hide things like my relationships. This is really stupid and I'm sorry for venting.
@Themoonluns You deserve better parents, dude. Honestly, I've never understood why LGBTQ is frowned upon by a religion that claims to love and accept everyone, that says to come as you are. If your parents can't see that you are completely valid, that is not your fault, that is their fault, and you deserve a family that actually accepts you as you are. Also don't apologize for venting, especially in this comment section. It is perfectly okay to vent in this comment section, and if people get mad at you for that, they are jerks.
you're not alone!! everyone around me irl is SO homophobic+transphobic I don't feel safe at all, why do people say they love you but never support you for being happy because you are being true to yourself?
@@P4ST3L_FR0GZ LGBTQ does not accept anyone who doesn't concur with their beliefs and practices. As a matter of fact, they're just as narcissistic, abusive and violent as any other extremist groups out there.
Whenever I read such things, it reminds me of my mother saying about trans people that maybe their souls wanted to reincarnate on one gender or come to earth with a specific gender yet did the process wrong and now they are stuck with a body they don't want. It was a very weird way to explain to lil me how trans people work, but the intent was nice. Perhaps you can take this small thing my mom said as some sort of support. Not to add that religion frowning upon LGBTQ+ people when all prophets basically said to love thy neighbour is kind of weird? Especially with the long story of homosexuality and such things humanity has? (Like, Romans, at the times of Jesus, had gay relationships and lesbians ones before homophobia even existed?) At this point, one might even think some frustrated religious leader wrote that to spite some lovers or some ex of his lmao
A large part of religious trauma can be the fact that you've been lied to about the very basics of the world. You two presupposing that a god exists is exactly what's keeping this trend alive. There is no god, and the sooner you can realise this, the less trauma you will suffer as a result.
0:00 intro 0:51 whether religious trauma is real 1:26 it is a battle of extremes 2:23 everyone has a different experience with a religion 3:22 to treat religious trauma 3:45 outro
@@psych2gomandarin Jesus always loves you a lot! Praise the Lord! Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength! HAVE FAITH! REPENT! TRUST IN GOD! ✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
I worked in a Catholic private school, and I was traumatized by it, even though I was only there for less than a year. Those months I worked there were pure hell, I was severely depressed and had a burnout, and I gave up on being a teacher because of that experience, even though my country has a serious need for teachers. The working environment was toxic at best and I grew to despise the religion too, because the people I worked with were the typical examples of hypocritical religious people.
As a Catholic I apologize to everyone who was harmed by any Church. Even if you don't believe anymore or don't attend Church anymore, *God still loves you, but I won't try to force you to believe that Edit: the * part isn't meant in a bad way, I didn't know this could still sound bad at the time. I myself might have some religious trauma, just not from the church, so I didn't mean to sound tone deaf 😅
Thank you 💙 as a person who doesn't believe in god I really appreciate people like you, and you make me believe in humanity. I'm ok if anyone wants to believe in any religion it's their business, but I'm not ok if someone forces other people to believe and practice religious things, something like this shouldn't be acceptable!
As a Christian I’m really sorry to those who have experienced any bad things while being in church or any other religious place. Personally for me I believe in higher power but I don’t believe forcing it onto others is right by any means.
Yeah. I wanted to believe in God again as I believed when I was younger, but the more I tried to bring myself to become a Christian again, the more anxiety, umconfort,feeling of being overwhelmed psychiologically and mentally, and doubts and repression of doub I got.
You do know that your apology will not be enough for you to convince us to join your cult right? Some damage is just to grate that an imaginary god can't fix it with Delutions.
finally, somebody mentioned this... my parents and everyone else try to force me to wear a hijab and a dress, but I always refuse because that's not what makes me happy. I never practice religion because I'm simply not interested. because my parents never taught me but that makes me feel glad they didn't. everyone constantly criticizes me so much, I don't know how much longer I can handle it. I wish I was never born here and in this body, I barely feel feminine and it just makes me feel like an object, seriously. I don't want to hear "oh you're just on the wrong path" no I am not, I know what I want and it's definitely not this.
@@majkou I'm sorry for you, you don't deserve this. I go through this everyday as well, my parents are 100% brainwashed and scared of what people would say if I take it off. They don't give a shit about my mental state.. I expressed my discomfort wearing the hijab and made a big fuss about it but they never gave a shi t. I refuse to stay in this toxic household.
@@Alala-u5c it's refreshing to see someone who also feels the same way, many people just say that it's the shaytan trying to corrupt you, when in reality that's completely false. they're so blind, why can't they just hear out and understand different perspectives?
A really good friend of mine has dealt with a lot of religious trauma. Might share this video with them. I feel very bad for how he was treated by his peers in his religious group and such. As well as the mental struggles he places on him self as a result of some his traumas. I hope he can heal from them.
@sorencalypso I think that might be a wonderful thing for you to consider doing…sharing this video. Never know how validating it could be to your friend…if you think it might help.
This is a more sensative toxic for me. I am not exactly religious, but I am expected to be. My mom likes to guilty trip with religion. When I make a mistake, or have to work with vague instruction, it's "Lord have mercy on my child" or "Jesus Christ something". I made mistakes in my life, and all I hear is "God is going to punish me." I live with a toxic mother whose "helps" makes me want to end myself. And no, I haven't gotta help. I can't afford it. Even if I could, my mom would stop me. So, I just suppress everything until the day I self destruct
That's really awfull! But please remember, even your Mom learned through mistakes. I really hope you have the chance to get some help and much needed distance to your Mom.
@@KaBauz1 I wish I could leave. I don't have the money to go anywhere. My dad and his mom are gone, so that's out. I don't have any physical friends, so I can't stay with them. I just have to deal with it, but I do appreciate your concern and support. And my mom won't learn. She doesn't care about me. Her actions prove it
@@pax_aurum_nightlord what you describe sounds like a situation faced by many adults with autism. A lot of us end up staying with family because we literally can't support ourselves or live independently.
@@jasonhernandez619 I don't have autism. I've just been unemployed for a while now. I do have some learning disabilities, but my main issues are asthma and severe depression
@@jasonhernandez619I’ve always wished there was some kind of place that helps people who grew up with and are stuck in abusive households, especially for those who are neurodivergent. I’m in a similar situation right now but it’s hard to change my environment when I’ve always been so conditioned to be dependent on the people who have always treated me horribly. I hope that some kind of safe haven is possible someday, it’s always been a dream of mine, and I also hope that everyone else who are in similar circumstances are still doing well and hanging in there, you are not alone in this
Why you care about a book with many rules and fictional story? Just be free just be you.... why you listen some old dead person ideas and live by it? Just live your life and set your own morals that benefit you, society, friends to live work together a happy life that should be enough for you... think about life after death how about focus your life now? I am a atheist I don't understand why people so serious about religion. I remember I thought it was a culture thing for humans but I realize it another whole can of worms that humanity invented. It can be both beautiful and ugly
If the bible doesn’t mention it at all then its not sinful. Alot of sects of Christianity, such as Baptists and catholics, have alot of extra rules that are not required of you from the bible.
It pains me to hear that so many people have had such negative experiences with religion. I grew up in a religious family and have had nothing but uplifting experiences. Then again, I feel like I'm in the minority of having two good parents in a good household. Most of the people I know in real life had parents whose marriages were broken and tumultuous, usually leading to divorce and separation. I feel guilty in that growing up in a stable home with two parents is a somewhat privileged outcome.
Good for you but we don't need your sympathy. Just don't use your privilege as gods blessings. It's actually your family's dynamics that blessed you not a deity in the sky. Seek and tired of people with Delutions and use that Delution to invalidate, vilify, demonize and harm others
I used to be insanely religious and I was just at the start of exploring religion taking things slow not until my mum kept forcing me to rush things and do it more ahead. I slowly lost interest and I was trying to gain it back but my mum being forceful made me completely give up. I still follow the same religion but not as religious as before.
Religious parents raised me and made me feel incredibly shameful for being bisexual. Their love is conditional, and that is something no one ever wants to hear. For example, they'll only attend my wedding if I marry a woman. They are also incredibly intolerant of other races, religions, and look down on those that aren't straight. It's a harsh, tragic upbringing, but one I vow to change when I have my own children. I vow to love my child(ren) regardless of their orientation, gender, or self expression. The vicious cycle ends here.
I feel like religion is a form of power, like any power it can be abused and corrupted, manipulated to coerce its followers and excuse the bad actions of prominent members. On the other side it offers comfort, structure, and purpose. I’m not religious and have been burned by religion, but lots of people need it
woah i never excepted to see something like this, i have really bad religious trauma due to my mom and when i tell anyone, they think im weird or lying, so i keep it to myself, i always thought i was just weird and nobody ekse had it but this made me feel a lot better
I’m trans and gay and even though I’ve never had first hand experience I’ve seen so many people say that I’m sinning and going to hell because of this. It makes me scared to even be in a church or be near religious people because I’m scared of what they’ll say. Mine is probably not as bad as some others but I think it definitely exists, and it’s probably a common theme among lgbtq people
You shouldn’t be afraid to be in a church. The people in the church are not the ones who get to deny your ticket into heaven. that being said, there is scripture about being gay, and etc, and although its wrong, you can be forgiven by God of those thoughts, you just shouldn’t act on them. Your case would be something up to God.
Yeah it is in fact very common among our community 2 of my past girlfriends broke up with me before because they got scared by their families saying that "they'll go to hell" because "man is for woman and woman is for man" so yeah it just hurts
@qTravis666 you literally just said, "Oh, don't be afraid to go into the church for being yourself, just try not to be yourself." While there are some good churches and good people, I agree with the original commenter. You never know if you're around religious people who don't care about that as long as you're happy, or if you're around bigoted religious people who say you're going to hell and use "love the sinner, hate the sin" as an excuse to hate both.
@@SnailTrailJay You can. Just don't expect a second chance since you know and keep practicing what God dislikes. He won't torture for all eternity since Hell doesn't exist. You'll just simply cease to exist.
Living through it right now. My father is a religious cult leader, who makes all fear this negative spiritual abuse from him. He uses these exact tactics to abuse his position and "power" over the church. He rules through fear and intimidation.
@@AmrFattouh-ex2yt actually no, what you just said is wrong. But I don't want this argument here. I just shared my trauma. Have at least respect for that in this regard.
@@anuruksuriyaarachchi3988 I mean it depends I grew up in a very liberal Christian church (UCC) and now I'm a queer sufi Muslim. My experience is drastically different because I've surrounded myself with theists who aren't jerks. And not fo nothing there is religious trauma in all faiths.
@@craigmusa2254 Both religions promote to treat Pagans differently(Even Jesus did it making a foreigner wanting beg to cure her daughter). Being Queer isn't any problem at all but those fundamentalist racists is the problem here. Of course I've read the bible, Jesus himself demands to love him more than anything else in the world. I was really traumatized by the beliefs I had. Especially because of the bible. From Amazing Atheist channel, I got to know that Koran do the worse. it was clearly written on Koran to fight against anyone goes away from the religion. Faith itself is meant that as " certificate of hope and trust of the unseen stuff. What else can I call that as a delusion? You can say that's the misinterpretation of whatever the book but when I pray, I saw gory nightmares back then. I heard threatening voices. If god is all powerful and just, why couldn't he give more reliable pathway which doesn't isolate me? Why was the 2019 April 21 bomb blast happened? Think of prophet Jonah? God didn't understand his fear(I feel like he but he's rather sadistic) after his service the people in that city got repented. Then, Jonah was so angry but what happened the prophets who came earlier? If you know that's the nature of the god. You better hurry and find a way for our survival. Luckily, thanks to atheists' channels. now I do feel better. Another thing is the anti-psychotic medication. I avoid going to the church because I was stigmatized there for watching Happy Tree Friends. They're revealing that in the hidden way. So, why should I risk to participate in something that doesn't fulfil my requirement? They don't even know that my medical condition and how they help cope with those triggers better. Bible is a very dangerous book if you're reading it without the guidance and 100% faith,
I have a religious trauma from Islam. The emotional abuse and manipulation are unbearable, especially to women. I've lived in denial and manipulated myself for two years. But I decided that I'm not Muslim anymore. It is not reasonable to believe in an idea that is not convincing. If it was "The truth" then it wouldn't be that hard to follow it, especially for women. I don't understand the unreasonable biases against women in all religions (not excluding Islam or Christianity). I decided that I won't lie to myself anymore. I've lied and denied it enough. The thing is that I don't know what to do in my life anymore. I feel I'm living without a soul. (It was because of Islam not because of leaving it). Seeing Christian people in the comments feeling the same, gave me some reassurance. Because it happens to all HUMAN beings. It doesn't matter what religion they were born in.
Exactly, I was raised Muslim. My mom and sister are Muslim. And it’s horrible honestly it might be the reason I die, I’ve been getting very bad suicidal thoughts honestly
Unfortunately this is a real thing my parents are catholic and I think I am just not cut out for catholic religion I know they want a good path about it but every time they talk about religion is mandatory it makes me sick to my stomach I am gonna make a conformation this year but I’m not sure I wanna do it I been thinking of leaving the church when I make my conformation but my heart goes out to anyone who has been a victim of spiritual abuse
Being religious and have a faith can be 2 totally different things. It really comes down our mind set. Like you could be someone who's just a "church goer" and be there just following rituals and a routine. Or you could be someone choosing to follow God because you love him and choosing to go to church because you genuinely want to, but not cause you felt like your forced to.
As a muslim girl being forced to cover my hair, not allowed to wear makeup and nailpolish, not allowed to sing, dance, laugh out loud, not allowed to wear skirts or tops even in my house, not having a boyfriend and.... IDK if i'm living or i'm just alive😓 I feel unhedonic😪
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
My experience is a little hard to explain because I've never been abused specifically but my teachings left me in a difficult place mentally. I accepted religion on my own when i was young and the churches we would go to constantly brought up the end times and prophesy and everything bad, one even zealously proclaiming homosexuality is the antichrist. Our main church ended up stealing money from the members and ran away when they were found out but those teachings stayed in me. When I found out I'm trans i kinda hayed myself for it but i ended up leaving the teachings behind. Last year had been very difficult though because i was reminded by it because i was constantly exposed to hearing people say that world events were tied to all that stuff from before so I always feel anxious and guilty just for my lifestyle but I'm working through it and trying my best
I think my mom was spiritually abused,I think that's why she doesn't go to Church anymore,and sometimes she watches masses from home. Mom always complains that her older sister says to her "the bible says to honour father and mother",but dhe says that my aunt never do this,and my mom was abused by her mother and father,so why she should honor them? I think I became atheist because religions could ruin people,relationships...and that they're human's invention.
Most of the religions are made by man for men. Women rights in some religions are so absurd and disgusting. I'm an Ex-Buddhist and people really think Buddhism is the most peaceful. As someone who lived for almost 20 years in a Buddhism majority country, I would like to say that Buddhism is or was never the most peaceful religion. There is no such thing as a peaceful religion.
Yes, it is. For example, I was terrified out of my mind when my parents forced me to watch a movie that depicted what hell is like, as a child, it terrified me! Ever since then I just cannot look at religion as a good thing. Of course being told by my family that I loved wholeheartedly, that I'm going to hell, and that I deserve to go to hell because I didn't think religion was a good thing, really didn't help my opinion towards religion. This was an incredibly helpful video, Thank You.
I don't know you neither your life or how your family is or who you are, so treat this just as a strange giving random opinion online: But it what you said is true, it seems you need to find people in your life who their support and love and appreaciation to your person, is not as contingent(conditioned/dependent) to what you believe, as your family is.
And maybe, find peace within yourself( Because from what I have thought about, and a realization I had after a day where I ended up giving in to the temptation of porn again, it seems that external love is important, but more important to ourselves internally, is to reach a level of not feeling like you need other's love so much to be okay with yourself, with your sense of self.(this applies for me and is a common issue for many of us ,human beings, don't want to sound like I'm giving a "sermon")
people who, even if they are religious, when you talk about the issues you faced with religion, they listen to you more than feeling like telling about or imposing their own views. People who see you as a human when you talk about religion and bad experiences with religion, not as someone that needs to be convinced, a "sheep to be indoctrinated, a person to scare with fear of hell". That care more about the friend/ person who is speaking to them when you are speaking, than with imposing their religious views or expressing their views religiously.
It’s not just parents who cause religious trauma. Many times it’s the actual church, members within it and leaders, that a person attends that causes religious trauma.
I experienced religious trauma as a child but now have a hatred for churches and not God. People are the cause of this trauma and not god themselves. I understand though if people with this trauma turns their back on religion as everyone is different
Being honest, my religious trauma honestly began when I saw my father pray and his double face when he spoke about the sins of others. He used to beat my mother, so, when I saw him prayer and the mere thought of God forgiving his sins and sending him to heaven just for that... it made my blood boil, it made me feel like the God of that religion was false or even a devil in disguise. I ended up turning to dharmic religions, because for me, they are more spiritual and seem to show more ways to reach the "enlightment" I seek, because they are often more accepting, since it's mostly about growing as a person. I do wish to reconcile with the idea of God from monotheistic religions, but as for now, baby steps is all I can do. I do not wish to dislike certain religions out of one stupid man, I feel it's unfair.
to be honest i don't know which religion is true and sometimes i get scared abt it, especially after death, but i do know i shouldn't think abt this yet because im still a kids and i have a lot of gilt with religion when other talk abt it :(
I have a friend who went through the same experience. She dreamt to be a musical artist. Her musical talent was insane and the songs she wrote are so deep and to me it was better than most artists today. She used to be an enthusiastic soul and fought through so many battles and got so many awards for performing. She belongs from a Muslim family and at some point she had to give up on her dream because its considered impermissible for them. I still remember, how heartbroken she was that day and slowly I saw the light in her soul and eyes fade away. Still to this day, she hasnt been the same. Its like a part of her died with her dream that day. I miss the lyrics she used to write and her genuine smile. I hope she finds happiness in life and finds peace with her religion
I’m a Christian myself and I have severe religious trauma that I’ve been trying to deal with lately. It is very real and the people who cause this are *WRONG* for scaring people like that. My love for Jesus was used by a “pastor” to brainwash and manipulate me severely and I’m still trying to get over it. Keep fighting, friends. Your religious trauma is not your fault and God truly does love you. ❤
People said I am going to hell for it! I started believing it! Now I ask the wrong questions... like how to cope with infinite torture? well you dont... I dont know how to stop believing this! its crippeling...
@@DasHeino2010you just need to ask God for forgiveness bro, your not going to hell unless you continue believing your fine, and its just the way you are.
@@DasHeino2010 yeah the "you're going to hell" thing is extreme 🥲 my first gf broke up with me because of it and dated a guy TvT and after that i just never went to church again and forgot about their "God"
@MilesJA1904, I understand you sweetheart. I can have my beliefs but I respect others with their ways of thinking or living. One friend told me that his parents kicked him out of home when he said was gay, and his parents traumatized him with all their comments. He was a good person, working hard and very charismatic person. I could see in him the importance of being respectful to others and that what I believe in my religion applies ONLY to me not to others. I don’t need to say or do anything to make feel sad, angry or upset 😢 anyone about their sexual orientation, appearance, religion, disability or any differences. I don’t need to affect anyone in any way. All we need each other I want to send you a big hug 🫂 full of love ❤️ to you and to anyone who needs it, you are loved and you can have your spiritual peace and growth in your own way , you deserve to be happy ❤and loved. I love you 😘 and you can be an angel to many people helping, creating, doing and saying positive things and actions in this world 🌎. Please 🙏 remember that you are important in this world and all positive contributions you can make to others in your journey can make this world better. God bless you all with love, acceptance, health, prosperity and happiness. ❤🌎 ❤
Christian fundamentalism can even lead to vaginismus, an internal disorder where any insertion (even tampons) is horribly painful. Religious trauma is NOT to be taken lightly. Being seen as inherently bad for no reason (being gay, practicing magic, etc) makes it nearly impossible to gain independence and self love if you happen to be seen as "invalid" based on Christianity.
I was raised in a religious household and as time went on, I started to grow out of it. I wasn't praying a lot in bed, not interested in attending church, stuff like that. Though my mom is kinda pushy when it comes to religion, telling me to do this or do that all for the sake of Jesus/God, which I know it's forcing religion onto your kid, I didn't mind it but it did annoyed me. I wasn't sure about my religion since I'm slowly leaning towards becoming an Atheist, I don't know if it's a good thing
I think you made a very good point. Parents never seem to realize that they are forcing their religion on their children. If their children decide to be religious as they mature, that's fine, but if it's being forced upon them, I see that as intentional indoctrination.
It’s not a good thing, if you think about it really hard, Atheism really doesn’t make any sense. I know that some religious zealots can be in your face, but its just because they are overcompensating for their own guilty conscience vicarious of you. A good amount of the things these people say are not in the bible. You missing Church every once in awhile is not a one way ticket to damnation, but rejecting God entirely, is .
@@qTravis666 So you're saying that if a person rejects God for any reason, even if that person is as virtuous as they come, they are going to go to hell? How does that make any sense? And if that's God's decision, doesn't that mean he's actually the evil one? If you think about it, someone who would cause another endless suffering all because they didn't choose to accept them is pretty damn evil and insane. Also, by that logic, all people of the world that are not Christian would be damned to hell. There are many nations in the world that are Buddhist, Muslim, or several other regional religions that are not widely known, these people are not evil by any means, and yet by Christian viewpoints they would all be going to hell!? That's what frightened me away from religion, a God that would literally damn people to eternal suffering all because they do not accept him.
@@qTravis666 Your god is the most immoral and heartless creature in your holey book. Fearmongering, victim blaming, gaslighting, etc. Your religion does all of that. A mental pyramid scheme preying on weak and vulnerable.
I believe there is! All the talk of how we are sinners and evil humans. And no teaching of how much we are loved and valuable. Can make someone believe they are worthless. I believed that for a long time. I am in my forties and realize I am worth something and am valuable
Hence the problem: victimization. You're using it to feel sorry for yourself and as an excuse to blame God for everything that's gone wrong in your life.
@@TheEliminator1992 hmmm I don't blame anyone for my mistakes. I own them and am pretty honest in my opinion of myself. But yes the church I went to when I was young really relied on how evil we are and how we are always going to fall short. I have found a church that had that balance. So like this video said it can give us trauma. I know how much Jesus loves us. We are worth something. He died for us.
@@TheMaryberry6061 Yes he died for you but his sacrifice won't be of any use to us if we keep doing things he's clearly condemned. I'm not trying to put you down but that's just the way it is and many people don't like to be told what to do.
@@TheEliminator1992 actually that isn’t true. No matter if we sin God continues to forgive because we have the blood of Jesus Christ washed over us! It covers a multitude of sins! Jesus said to forgive 77x7 which means don’t stop forgiving! He hasn’t! Forgive others as God in Christ forgives you! The difference between us and the world is that our eyes are open to our sin theirs are not! We can repent! Can they truly repent without Christ? No! They are a slave to sin! We have been set free but we still battle our flesh and sometimes we fall. There’s sins even us believers struggle with but we simply ask God for help! None of us will be perfect until Jesus comes back for us! Each and every day he is molding and perfecting us into his image! Perfection!
Being told that I’m going to hell no matter what and never being good enough is what made me leave. My school years in Catholic School was beyond traumatic. I’ve told my story plenty of times, so it doesn’t like haunt me anymore ever since therapy. However, just because I’ve healed doesn’t mean I’ll go back. I’m staying away from religion at alls costs. I’ll still believe in a greater deity, but not the one I learned from Catholicism.
@@MissSirenita honey I know it’s horrible to hear. But Jesus sacrificed his life for you and through him God sees you as perfect when he looks at you he doesn’t see your sin he sees his son! All you gotta do is believe. And that is your choice.
When I was a 12 year old girl. A nun in a Catholic school told me that I was not an innocent pure girl, just because my boobs grow bigger than normal a 12 year old. I became so insecure after that day.
One thing i can say as someone with religious trauma is that it’s ignorant to be disrespectful to people just because they hold a certain religious belief. You’re not at fault for your negative feelings towards a particular religion but as an adult you are responsible for your actions. Be kind to each other and respectful. Be forgiving to others and yourself. The freedom you’ll experience from this will benefit you more than any other
Some time ago, I've come to the conclusion that religion is nothing more--on the personal level--than a way of being. And on a grand scale: A way of getting people to act certain ways. And whomever created it, and it's tomes, had a deep understanding of human psychology well before any scientific methods of explaining anything were realized... so it's no wonder there's trauma resulting from it.
This is sad that people use religion to do such horrible and for selfish and disgusting things I’ve never had any trauma from religion but I know people have done thing for “lord” and it horrible I’m sorry for the people had too go through things like this and hope they’re healing or doing okay
This can be a form of someone shaming you for who you are because of their beliefs. It can make resent yourself or make you feel shame for just being different. Especially when you are constantly being told "you're going to hell" for being the way you are.
I used to be somewhat religious but i just knew it wasnt for me. As long as ur beliefs aren't hurting anybody, absolutely fine to be religious. I just HATE that people force it and then act so suprised when they get called out for it 😒
I notice that most people with religious trauma grew up with religious parents. I have religious trauma despite that. It's nowhere near as severe as most stories I hear, but I do think it's interesting how it can apply even without such an overbearing influence. I am very fortunate to have someone in my life who understands the difference between religion and spirituality, and also understands that religion is not a thing to push someone into. I am in a much better place because of them.
Yeah. Definitely what I experienced as a Jehovah’s Witness growing up. And even after I was out at 16, it took many years for feel safe with myself and trust my own mind. Be safe out there everyone.
@@TheEliminator1992 what an unnecessary and invalidating comment and also one that complete misses the point of the video. Many people in the Jehovah’s Witness community/religion often face the same thing and telling a person “it just wasn’t for you” just ignores the issue and perpetuates the problem of many.
@@earnieboy54 It's incredibly ignorant and childish for you to generalize the whole religion because of a bad experience YOU had. It's about as ridiculous as a person classifying people of the opposite sex as bad because of a bad experience. Only the weak minded think that way
@@TheEliminator1992 you’re the definition of a reactive person. I never said the whole religion. I said “me” and “many people” in my response to you. Religion is a problem mainly due to the people that lead it and enforcing their agenda. Issues that affect a lot of people not just me. Do the research. But you absolutely defined yourself in the first two words. You’re childish and ignorant. Good try mate. You played yourself.
YES YES YES YESSSS i am so happy you covered this topic. I did behave in a bad way when i suffered religous trauma (still am but doing bit better) blamed everything on religion and said nasty stuff which i wish i hadn't. Having friends who are religous friends who arent bigoted changed my world fr❤ healing takes time ❤
I don't have any religious trauma, but I understand that this happened to some people. If you want to know why I said this, because I'm a Muslim and also being spiritual. I ever had a thought that I should stop being religious (in Indonesia, there are so many terrorism attack in Bali and Jakarta, and it's done by some 'Muslim' who had brainwashed by religious cult to bombing tourism place like Bali and some hotels in Jakarta). But then, I realized that my religion doesn't teach a***e and intolerance to other religions. So, I still being religious since I broke up with my ex in 2012 and being spiritual since 2018. And let me tell you: Islam is not related to terrorist, because murder is a sin. And if you think that I support of what Hamas did to some Israeli, you're wrong. I'm in neutral position, so I'm not supporting Israel nor Hamas in the aggression situation. Thank you for reading this comments 😊
Still not enough to convince me to join your cult. The Pope who commissioned artist Michel Angelo to cover his naked paintings to make it decent got told by the painter that he will cover the naked bodies if the priest can make a decent world to live in. You are barking at the wrong tree. Go tell what your religion is to your extremis muslim believer.
In the philippines, we have that notorious quibulok (it is sad that there are people who still support and listen to that pastor despite his sinful acts and do victim blaming on victims). I also find it sad that people like him try to justify their heinous deeds. I know, there are people like him in the USA and in Europe as well.
@@Mur-zoUxw Jesus always loves you a lot! Praise the Lord! Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength! HAVE FAITH! REPENT! TRUST IN GOD! ✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Jesus always loves you a lot! Praise the Lord! Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength! HAVE FAITH! REPENT! TRUST IN GOD! ✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
I say yes. I was born and raised in the Mormon church and finally had the choice to leave when I moved out. I've never been so happy since I moved out and left the Church.
I grow up hating my late father & the rules based on the religion he forced me to obey, become rebel & only follow the rules out of fear of him. He tried to force the rules in an abusive way & abit of a narcissistic, e.g telling us not to angry because it will ruin our morals while in fact, he's the one who was angry all the time. But after he passed away, I feel that I've got freedom to learn what I like. I learn more about various religion. Away from him, I can calmed down & think more clearly by myself. After quite a long time in that condition, I finally decided to keep my original religion (the same religion with my father), but now by my own choice as a result of my study, experience & understanding, without his influence at all. I think if someone teach someone else a religion forcefully, the result wouldn't be good. Be a good model first & let people choose. Religion is a choice that would be a personal responsibility after all.
This was something i went through for a few years. My mom was super understanding and loving so from her i got my good religious habits but living in the south and going to a Christian school ruined it. Being told that music i liked was bad or making me sign a contract to read my Bible every night as well as showing us The Passion of the Christ just drove me crazy. For around 6-8 years i was absolutely terrified of everything and constant paranoia. It took me until finding Bible Project which reframed my whole concept of religion and im super happy with my faith nowadays. I still have moments of ptsd from it but i know that my God loves me and wants me to be happy, not constantly scared. I dont believe in hell as a place so much as the times we live in now and have decided there is no real devil, just the shadow self like jung described it. I have peace and can love and live my life in joy now and im so grateful for it.
I do believe in God, but i've been distancing myself away from church because of the community. I do want to go, but whenever i remember the guilt-tripping of our preacher,i feel suffocated. The feeling of my parents forcing me to go to church just doesn't sit right with me. Edit: I tried going, but our preacher kept guilt-tripping me because i wasn't going to church every Sunday.
Same, im scared to talk with anyone who approaches me with religion, because i dont want to experience the flashbacks ive had, i miss my old self, i was so creative and weird and funny, but because of this trauma i feel like that old me is dead, but i still do talk to god when i can, my trauma might make it harder though..
I grew up in a small area where Christianity was the only religious path and my family was mostly religious but I never really bought into it. So, when I got older, and started finding my love of metal and all things horror, everyone around me tried to make me feel like liking those things were wrong and I've had to sit through plenty of religion talks because of my interests. This lead to me becoming distant and numb inside and always feeling the need to wear that fake smile to not be called an embarrassment and yelled at or smacked. Now when I see religion ads or when Christian topics are brought up around me, it triggers me to the point where I'm quick to dismiss it all together. Thank you for making this video and my support goes to everyone facing this trauma. You are never alone.
I came from a religious background. And I came to conclusion that you can't hate the religion because the people around you failed to explain you the religion. Instead of hating your religion.. simply distance yourself from them
Hating religion especially when you are betrayed by it is a valid feeling. It's important that feelings like that are acknowledged. After all, these religions should be held accountable at some point. Now holding hate is not healthy and yes distancing yourself from anything related to that can help with healing.
Thank you so much for covering this! I am a former Baptist turned anti-theist. Stepping into a church triggers me now to the point where I need to leave so I can breathe normally. I get insulted when someone says "god bless" to me or tells me to pray or they will pray for me. My heavily religious family will never listen to me when I say no to as church invite or tell me to pray. I wish there was an easier way to explain my stance to them without them arguing.
I'm not even telling anyone to stop. I'm just staying away from religion based on my own experience that now shape what I believe. Very smart of you to assume like that 🙄
I think I'm lucky that I was born into a family that believes in science. We have religion, but we don't believe in individuals. Everyone is just human.
Yes. How could anyone disagree? A lot of gay youth experience trauma from their religious family members. The thing about trauma is that what may be traumatic to one person, may not be to another or the trauma may be met with more resilience in one person vs the next. My dad was a drug addict. My mom was very emotionally and physically distant. My nana... she hung out with me at least sometimes. She told me stories. That was better than what my mom did. My mom didn't even talk to me when I was growing up. But when I was a teenager, I came out. My Roman Catholic nana completely rejected me. I had a really good group of friends back then that kept me moving forward. Plus, I did a lot of drugs and stuff for a while. Fast foward 15 years and it really hit me how much her rejection hurt me. I am appalled and in disbelief that someone could hold passages in a book in higher regard than the mental and emotionally well-being (which if neglected or harmed tends to lead to physical neglect or harm) of their loved one.
In my own experience with this, I'm not a part of any organized religion although I still believe in God. I feel like many different religions are very similar that there is really no reason for them to be separated. Also, love you all at Psych2go ❤️
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise has either never been a victim of it or the one causing it. Growing up I was traumatized by Christianity to the point where it was forced down my throat.
Even though I have openly said I don't want to go to church, my step-dad still wants to force me to go. He has even called me a heathen before. That just makes me want to go even less.
I feel constantly judged by my Mormon extended family. I never got baptized and support the LGBTQ+ community and it’s really hard to feel the judgement and hate towards people I care about, and judgement towards my whole family for leaving the church
Is it also religious trauma if someone has grown up surrounded by people who showed a great interest in religion, but also 'spirits' and 'demons', and made someone, as a child, believe that even just thinking of any such creatures can 'call' them to you, and that the dead become ghosts who are ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS present and watching, and any bad thought can anger them and have them shame you/wait until they meet you after your death?
It depends on upbringing and your parents. Not because of religion directly. People who usually face this do not understand religion or not religious and then pressured by parents to follow it anyway without proper understanding. So, once they grow up and find a little bit of freedom, they go completely against their religion and blame everything about it. So, yes manipulation plays a very strong role here.
Horrifies me when people say "Trauma is not valid". All trauma is valid. Including religion trauma.
Yeah that’s on some extreme denial stuff
Whenever you hear outlandish comments like that, there’s a strong likelihood the other person is masking their own trauma, orrrr they really don’t understand
Don't say all trauma is valid, Twitter and TikTok have a lot of fake trauma. 😶
It's not all valid because Twitter and TikTok have doing fake traumas.
Trauma made by Twitter and TikTok are all valid.
The #1 thing that's gonna drive people away from religion are those that follow said religion
And those religions that say that they are the "True Church", but they are run by people who are narcissists, enriching themselves at their members' expense (just like the Kim Dynasty of North Korea). There is such one influential church here in the Philippines.
That's certainly true for some, but I think that this saying has some issues.
I was raised in a very literalist Christian family, and people in churches would say this as a way to ignore that some people found the beliefs to be unreliable. It's easier to say that someone left because they were "offended" than it is to say that they left because they think you're wrong and that they have reasons for it.
It wouldn't be a problem if people did evangelism the correct way.
1.Provide information
2. Answer questions
3. Let them make the choice
Extra credit: give reading material, a Bible, and a card with your number if they have more questions.
You can do a follow up but only if they want to. If they are cool with everything you can invite them to your church. If not leave them alone. You did your best.
10 years ago when I was experiencing depression, I was led by a sociopath to a church focused on "the truth" and "spreading the gospel" rather than empathy and compassion. I've been working on recovering from the resulting c-PTSD every day since. Thank you for this validating video.
Unfortunately, it's a real thing. A friend of mine was forced by her parents to go to church until she was 23. When she told them that she decided to leave the church, her parents were really infuriated, telling her she was going to burn in hell, that she'll never succeed in her life, and other abhorrent things they told her. She is now a CEO and has two children, living happily with her husband.
Dear religious people (especially Christians and Muslims), I respect your religion. However, remember that forcing anyone to follow your religion is the worst way (from far) to make them believe your God. This is the kind of situation that makes people leaving churches.
Even with lgbtq.. gotta cut it down before u create enemies. Don’t force your beliefs on others including ur own kids
@@npcimknot958 I don't force people into religion. If you read entirely the message, you would see that I made this comment as a warning for people forcing anyone to follow their religion.
Yeah my dad also forces me to go to church until I'm 18 ..
Think that's something? Try being duped into returning to CCD classes--to get your confirmation... after already being asked to leave, due to lack of participation and not being able to get along with classmates whom were the same kids that'd crap on you at school--simply because your father duped you into it immediately after waking from an accident that nearly killed you... which was the end result of something those same kids did!
BTW: I cheated on the test... because I couldn't remember anything after the second question... and despite getting confirmed, we gave-up on the church, because they just kept asking more & more of us. The church is supposed to be there for the people, mainly... not the other way around.😕
Don't forget the fact that someone that reflect and rationalize might start to doubt, just by reading scientific articles that says thing against religions. Like the creation, it's obvious that it was the bing bang.
For those who have experienced trauma, I wish you the best in healing. I hope you find yourself surrounded by loving people in a place where you can grow and nurture a better life.❤
Thanks for the positive comment of the day! :)
Yes. My Mother wanted to be a dancer when she was younger. Her pastor said it would be demonic. Because of this, she didn't get to pursue her dream.
that's beyond insane, wtf??? people should follow their dreams no matter what...
Pastors are the real demons.
Dancing being demonic, what the f 💀
@@Reality-Distortion Yeah, it leaves a mark. I wonder how many people have a story like that.
that pastor had never read the bible
Psalms 149:3: "Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp."
Ecclesiastes 3:4: "A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance."
Psalms 30:11: "Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness."
Exodus 15:20: "The Israelites Celebrate God’s Victory with Dance."
2 Samuel 6:14: "David Dances Before the Lord."
I want to be religious, but it just feels like my parents are forcing me into it and that is one of the main reasons why I’m so anxious about the smallest stuff. My parents get upset over the smallest things. If I’m going to be religious, I want to choose that for myself, not get forced or guilt tripped or manipulated into it in any way.
Your parents are assholes, they may be overcompensating for their sins vicariously through you. Dont sweat it, alot of the things they get upset are definitely not based in the Bible.
I felt the same way. Had to come to it on my own and not just accept some sort of potential indoctrination. Best wishes for you.
@@LastEarBender thank you
Do whatever you go for, they hate it and you love it. Just be religious, totally support you.
I’m bit religious, not right there. I do pray at home / anywhere and my parents are proud I am.
Escape at the first occasion you get.
religious trauma: someone forcing their religious belief viewpoints onto you for their own gain and/or to exploit/mislead you (which is a sin itself)
Good point 💚
I think it's also important to note the difference between religion and spirituality. At least for me, they are two different things because one is tied to an organization, and the other is tied to a relationship with a higher power(whoever that may be for you). I personally stopped being religious but never stopped being spiritual. However, many of my friends stopped both(and yes we remained friends)
same here. growing up in a toxic religious family left me agnostic until I finally found peace within my own spirituality and witchy-ness
Agreed
They may not be the same, but they don't have to be incompatible. Many people are genuinely spiritual within a religious tradition.
Who stopped being religious after being raised by religious parents ⬇️
Me i have it
You mean by abusive parents who HAPPEN to be religious...? If you had black parents does that make being black abusive?
Still begs for likes in 2024 😹
They forced you to go to church too?
Me
I thought I'd never hear about religious trauma
I was traumatized by a hell-fire and brimstone christian preacher when I was maybe 7 at the oldest. My grandma took me to her church when this preacher was visiting to do a guest sermon and he ranted and raved about demons walking in the aisles of the pews whispering things to you to not believe him and was literally trying to scare people into faith, even though I'm sure 99% of everyone in that church was already christian (it was a small town with like 5 different churches at the very least). He yelled about how you'd go to hell and how everyone deserves to go to hell and you're only safe from that if you're saved and childhood me still barely understood the concept of being saved so by the time it was all over I was in the midst of one of my first anxiety attacks and absolutely convinced I was going to hell no matter what I did. My grandma tried her best to comfort me, but I never wanted to go back to that church and my parents were really upset she even took me in the first place. The worst part is I don't think she even knew the preacher was like that.
Unfortunately this isn't the only traumatic experience I've had involving religion. My best friend growing up went to a church way outside of town. This church was probably just as bad as the previous preacher, but in different ways. I was closer to 10 by this time. Rather than being hell-fire and brimstone, this church was the type that believed the only way you could be saved was by speaking in tongues. On top of that, this was also the kind of church to believe in doomsday predictions and conspiracy theories. My first time going there, I misread the sign on the way in as saying "apocalystic" rather than "apostolic," which honestly sounds unrelated, but thinking back on it it's really fitting. So we get there. Things are pretty normal at first, they're doing a sermon and singing songs, then they get to like a second sermon sort of thing, and then the whole church of like 20-something people erupts into crying and speaking in tongues. I don't know what to do with myself. Even my friend has joined in. I just have to sit there and have a panic attack while trying to hide it. After my friend is done, he comes back to sit with me while everyone else is still speaking in tongues and brings this magazine where the front cover is a picture of a nuclear explosion with big letters pasted over it that say "ONE THIRD OF MANKIND WILL DIE. ...In the next 6 months?" My friend told me he just wanted me to be aware and I read through this thing, but don't finish until we get back to his place and I'm still panicked and absolutely terrified that the world is going to end and that we're going to all be nuked and it gets to the point that in my hysteria I'm convinced that I'm a person mentioned in the Bible asking an angel how long this war is going to take (and by the way, the guy who wrote this magazine is convinced it's going to be a three and a half year long nuclear war.) By the time I get home, I'm pretty upset and my parents don't let me go to my friend's place for a while.
And then I went again! This time my friend said it wouldn't be like last time as it was more of a youth program, but still held by the same church. I don't remember much about it, but what I do remember, was another friend of mine was there as he was somehow convinced to visit. I can't remember if there was a small puppet show or not, but I don't remember liking it. Then a guy comes to the front of the crowd of kids and starts getting them to speak in tongues. I have to excuse myself to the restroom while this happens because I'm having another panic attack. They're done by the time I come back out. Then we go to another building and they have like a small local rock band there to play kids christian songs and while that's going on another member of the church is speaking in tongues randomly while we're trying to listen to and participate in the music and I guess she's trying to bless all the kids or something because she comes around touching the shoulders of kids while she's speaking in tongues. At the time I found it a little funny, but now I'm a bit more respectful of it, and yet I can't shake the creepy vibe away from it all. I don't think my parents were happy with me going to that either. Unlike my grandma, my friend was very aware of what he was doing and where he was taking me, but he was convinced it was the only way to save me or something.
It's still upsetting to think about this stuff to this day (over 20 years later) and I really need to address all of this with my therapist still. I'm honestly surprised I kept my faith at all.
Faith is accepting Jesus as your Savior, the apostolic your talking about is actually part of revelation from the Bible.
@@elijahcolada84crazy cult fanatic
@@elijahcolada84 you Bible is man made and your belief revolves around shaming ang guilt tripping to collect money. Get over your head weirdo. 🙄
Religious trauma is the number one reason, why is so many people are walking away from religion. The problem is so many priests pastors and youth pastors use their power to abuse people. Often it's to abused women and children... And then cover up the abuse...
All i know is there are good and bad pastors
It's not always bad leadership or traditionally defined abuse. I left because of the rampant bigotry and hypocrisy combined with the absolutely rancid theology. After spending over a decade trapped in that religion, both the "god" and his followers are terrible.
Lol @@Izzy-cp8yt
@@SoniaSephia okay, now provide a source for your first sentence.
@@jfk4589 Jesus always loves you a lot!
Praise the Lord!
Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!
HAVE FAITH!
REPENT! TRUST IN GOD!
✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
For me, definitely exists because I was raised with an emotionally abusive and very narcissistic mother who twisted religion in anyway possible to get what SHE wanted. Even to the point that saying that straightening one's hair was haram. Saying that basic hygiene was also haram. I hated it so much
Got mixed up with an apostolic Christian community, that tried to make their religion their whole personality. Very cultish and tried to make me feel bad for just being me. Left and over the years after I began to resent God, but eventually I realized it isn’t God who is the asshole it’s the people who grift off his name so they can manipulate others.
These days I’m in a non denominational Christian group where I am much happier, and made many friends. They love Christ but that’s not all there is to them.
Thank you for realising that it’s not God, but some of the toxic people and groups that “follow” Him.
It's a shame that so many bad people insist on using his name for their own benefit...
It's even the religious hypocrites that are the reason that Jesus was murdered
The problem with religion is that it facilitates gaslighting and abuse. And at the same time it learns you to be ok with abuse because The Lord wants you to forgive anybody, regardless of what the abuser has done you wrong. All to see the abusers living better lives than you can do, because you're dealing with the depressions, addictions, burnout, debts, homelessness, PTSD and CPTSD, that their abuse has caused. Where is The Lord to punish those abusers and send them for eternity to Hell? Even the religious sexual abuse in families, but also in churches, all behind closed doors, is meant to 'worship and honor The Lord'. That's the mantra they abuse. There have been many churches, monasteries, orphanages and mental asylums where sexual abuse became the norm. It's a widespread problem in the Catholic church and a huge stain on their appearantly not so holy image. Religion is full of hypocrisy.
So what is God? Good? Evil? Or just an imaginary friend?
I'm atheist and I am for this reason, so many problems in this community is overlooked and it can lead to lifelong problems. I don't have good experiences with Christians. My grandpa died when I was six and ever since my parents have been forcing me to go to church, knowing that my siblings were uncomfortable about it because it was so sudden. I had an argument with my mom about it and she snapped, she said "I'm tired of the disrespect, I go to church because I need to belive your grandad is out there somewhere, and if I go you have to go too". And as if more recently my dad has become creepy about it, making more sexist remarks on my sister's and my appearance. And forcing us too read more of the Bible and pray more. And honestly this wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the intentions behind it. I told my friends that I didn't like to go to church and stuff and they took it as me hating all Christians, but that's not what I mean. I just don't like that I have to do all these things so my parents feel better abouts themselves.
@@Caspiantheimp I'm not religious. However I do have a spiritual mindset. God couldn't come to fix my traumas. So in my mind, I became my own psychiatrist, my own therapist, my own best friend. All archetypes. Trauma translates into spirituality as a curse. A curse needs to be lifted. So in my mind, I needed to become my own alchemist, my own sorcerer to be able to lift my own curses. That's how deep my self inquiry went on spirituality.
Religions don't facilitate anything. Religions are ideas. And people twist those ideas to fit their narratives. The pig will always find mud, you know. So because of some Christians or Muslims or whatever, saying that religions as a whole facilitate abuse and gaslighting is just ignorant. People are evil. satan is evil. God is perfect. I'm a Christian, but I won't push anything. I'm just saying that you must differentiate people from religion. Because religions, for a lack of a better term, are tools, which can be used for both good and bad. Early Christian churches helped each other, people gave all their possessions to the church, and it was a very healthy and friendly environment. And then satan came and corrupted it all, making all those divisions, that are completely useless and retarded, but people listen to them. God is good. People and satan are not.
God is a justification and an excuse for people to control others.
The problem is and always will be the people, no matter the religion or ideology, especially if it was supposed to be good because there will always be someone to misuse it and get away with it.
When I was 13, I told my Mom that I was self harming. She told me that I'm demonic multiple times. It took a long time for me to realize that wasn't true.
I had a habit of scratching the paints off the wall and playing with textures like wheat flour and dust..... my mom always says I am a demon or a jinn is behind me..... or even I'm doing a sinful act I don't even understand how?
Religious OCD survivor here. I'm glad you made this video and included Religious OCD in it, too. It isn't talked about that much
i am not religious anymore ever since my parent is strict on things i did.
(like, being modest, not allowed to swear, cant be friends with bad people etc.)
It was hard growing up since you are limited things and i did not make a lot of friends
I wont say being religious is bad, its just, dont force it on people who dont want it.
Same. I feel like the true path of religion, although I have not experienced it, is manipulated by society according to their whims and fancies.
While I was raised by loving and concerned parents, I was made to feel guilty about the smallest of things and I hated that.
I love my family but, I wish they respected my opinion. (They just see me as egoistic and arrogant)
To add, a religious person isn't always good and vice versa; a non-religious person isn't always bad.
True my brother
Sounds more like they were just trying to protect you from the evils of this world to me. Parents do this with or without being religious.
@@BlackWinds I understand where you and my parents are coming from however, protecting your child can only do so much; especially by trying to hide and not talk about it.
Instead you can make your child aware of the same evils and how to protect themselves and others, so that they know how to deal with it if ever faced with one.
Adding to the guilt part, I think it just increases the mindset of blaming the victim rather than trying to help.
Again, I know my parents don't have any malice or ill-intent but equating having different choices and being independent to sinful and arrogant isn't right either.
@@BlackWindsnews flash. Many religious also do evil things. ✈️🏙️
I’m Christian and I don’t think I’ve been through religious trauma per se, but definitely some tough times. My heart goes out to all please with religious trauma of any kind. I hope you get the help you need to heal.
@@Simke8 Jesus always loves you a lot!
Praise the Lord!
Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!
HAVE FAITH!
REPENT! TRUST IN GOD!
✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
@@plantingseeds_official making the same comment to everyone makes it look like you are a formulaic follower who hasn't thought it through. This topic requires a more personal approach.
@@jasonhernandez619 In fact, I think it's one of those "bots" that try to get likes by any means possible.
@@plantingseeds_officialRiiiight. 🙄😂 The thing about narcissists is, they only love themselves. Your God/Jesus, is no exception only a greater toxic form of narcissism.
Our religion should cause love and affection, peace and harmony, kindness, generosity and unity. We should remember that our religion can be used also, as a tool to control and manipulated. Be aware of it and support others.💙
It’s not just religion ! Science is one of the causes that killed many people on this planet apart from religion and politics !
Like the psychology itself ! And the goal of Psych 2 go like this channel is to invent things that do not exist and you see that this channel does not like religion at all ! It’s his opponent, all they see in their brains is that everyone has trauma or we called « False Trauma » To invent a trauma that does not exist to eliminate religion ! This is what we call politics ! And if you resist because they can not manipulate you and suddenly they arrive with their favorite vocabulary "NARCISSISM" 😂🤣😂🤣but if you follow their ideologies ", you are "EMPATH" or I do not know what! Whether religion, politics or science and psychology use this technique!
Nowadays there are "sectarians of psychotherapy" ie they will use the patient as an experience as like the person have a trauma while you have and their goal is to control your emotion and thought because they do not like religion ! It’s BATTLE between « SCIENCE » and RELIGION 😂🤣😂🤣
In any case, for me, I am neutral ! I don’t like to belong to any religion or politics even less to science and psychology! I know those fields very well !
But analyze things well! This channel is a secular psychotherapy cult and everyone for them has traumas ! They invent all these things to better control them ! It’s their policy ! It’s manipulation !
Not only religion ! Politics, science and specifically psychology also uses sectarian drifts of psychotherapy!
This channel doesn’t like religion ! It’s part of their politics ! It’s the war between religion and psychology ! (Science) 🤣😂🤣 Or rather who controls the best ! The techniques are different but the principles are the same ! And science is a tool that has killed many billions of people after religion and politics (World War) !
There is what is called « sectarian drift in psychotherapy ». The therapeutic drift becomes sectarian when it tries to make the patient adhere to a belief, to a new way of thinking. The pseudo-practitioner asks the patient to have confidence in him because he alone has the «miracle» method able to cure him: there is indoctrination.
Not only religion! Politics, science and specifically psychology also uses sectarian drifts of psychotherapy!
This channel doesn’t like religion! It’s part of their politics! It’s the war between religion and psychology! Or rather who controls the best! The techniques are different but the principles are the same! And science is a tool that has killed many billions of people after religion!
There is what is called "sectarian drift in psychotherapy"! The therapeutic drift becomes sectarian when it tries to make the patient adhere to a belief, to a new way of thinking. The pseudo-practitioner asks the patient to have confidence in him because he alone has the «miracle» method able to cure him: there is indoctrination.
I dont know if this counts as religious trauma but growing up, I've always been told being part of the LGBTQ+ community was a sin. I am transmasc(more specifically AFAB), I've always wanted to be a boy, but when i told my parents this, they just lectured me on how I should be grateful for what God made me and how I'm still too young to know this. This honestly made me really bottle up and hide things like my relationships. This is really stupid and I'm sorry for venting.
@Themoonluns You deserve better parents, dude. Honestly, I've never understood why LGBTQ is frowned upon by a religion that claims to love and accept everyone, that says to come as you are. If your parents can't see that you are completely valid, that is not your fault, that is their fault, and you deserve a family that actually accepts you as you are.
Also don't apologize for venting, especially in this comment section. It is perfectly okay to vent in this comment section, and if people get mad at you for that, they are jerks.
@@P4ST3L_FR0GZ I actually needed to hear that, tysm😣😣😣
you're not alone!! everyone around me irl is SO homophobic+transphobic I don't feel safe at all, why do people say they love you but never support you for being happy because you are being true to yourself?
@@P4ST3L_FR0GZ
LGBTQ does not accept anyone who doesn't concur with their beliefs and practices. As a matter of fact, they're just as narcissistic, abusive and violent as any other extremist groups out there.
Whenever I read such things, it reminds me of my mother saying about trans people that maybe their souls wanted to reincarnate on one gender or come to earth with a specific gender yet did the process wrong and now they are stuck with a body they don't want.
It was a very weird way to explain to lil me how trans people work, but the intent was nice. Perhaps you can take this small thing my mom said as some sort of support. Not to add that religion frowning upon LGBTQ+ people when all prophets basically said to love thy neighbour is kind of weird? Especially with the long story of homosexuality and such things humanity has? (Like, Romans, at the times of Jesus, had gay relationships and lesbians ones before homophobia even existed?) At this point, one might even think some frustrated religious leader wrote that to spite some lovers or some ex of his lmao
The journey to God is your own, many religious institutions act wrong and can do a lot of damage.
So true, Jesus warned us about this
A large part of religious trauma can be the fact that you've been lied to about the very basics of the world. You two presupposing that a god exists is exactly what's keeping this trend alive. There is no god, and the sooner you can realise this, the less trauma you will suffer as a result.
@@tallajc-mt2zr yes about the Pharisees
0:00 intro
0:51 whether religious trauma is real
1:26 it is a battle of extremes
2:23 everyone has a different experience with a religion
3:22 to treat religious trauma
3:45 outro
@@psych2gomandarin Jesus always loves you a lot!
Praise the Lord!
Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!
HAVE FAITH!
REPENT! TRUST IN GOD!
✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
I worked in a Catholic private school, and I was traumatized by it, even though I was only there for less than a year. Those months I worked there were pure hell, I was severely depressed and had a burnout, and I gave up on being a teacher because of that experience, even though my country has a serious need for teachers. The working environment was toxic at best and I grew to despise the religion too, because the people I worked with were the typical examples of hypocritical religious people.
Just don't forget, the problem is the people, don't waste time hating a religion or ideology, in the end it's always people who are the problem.
When its psych2go notificationthis means time to stop whatever you're doing to watch a new video
IKR and i have the same pfp as you in my discord lol
@@3sides_3angles OH COOL (☆▽☆)
@@That_silly_emi mhm
I just stopped what I was doing 😊
As a Catholic I apologize to everyone who was harmed by any Church. Even if you don't believe anymore or don't attend Church anymore, *God still loves you, but I won't try to force you to believe that
Edit: the * part isn't meant in a bad way, I didn't know this could still sound bad at the time. I myself might have some religious trauma, just not from the church, so I didn't mean to sound tone deaf 😅
Me too! I know the positivities of religion and teachings but some people just cannot be religious. They deserve peace too and not to be forced!
Thank you 💙 as a person who doesn't believe in god I really appreciate people like you, and you make me believe in humanity. I'm ok if anyone wants to believe in any religion it's their business, but I'm not ok if someone forces other people to believe and practice religious things, something like this shouldn't be acceptable!
@@EV143it’s a choice, and that’s how it should be.
Nope. He is hateful. That is my experience.
@@DimitrijDimitrij exactly
Religion, like any other man-made tool, can be used for good or evil.
I always say, to help one's self or control people.
Yes very much yes (answering title)
No doubt fr
You have a gacha life pfp + you make videos entirely about that same game too so therefore your opinion is invalid 🥱
@@WorstCharacterInHS So what if someone likes a game??
Literally don't even need to watch
@@WorstCharacterInHS so cringy when people throw hate at strangers on the internet for literally NO REASON lmaaaaao, it's giving trauma🫦✨
As a Christian I’m really sorry to those who have experienced any bad things while being in church or any other religious place. Personally for me I believe in higher power but I don’t believe forcing it onto others is right by any means.
Yeah. I wanted to believe in God again as I believed when I was younger, but the more I tried to bring myself to become a Christian again, the more anxiety, umconfort,feeling of being overwhelmed psychiologically and mentally, and doubts and repression of doub I got.
You do know that your apology will not be enough for you to convince us to join your cult right? Some damage is just to grate that an imaginary god can't fix it with Delutions.
Getting beaten and forced to wear the hijab in childhood is definitely traumatising!
And most Muslim women go through this everyday.
finally, somebody mentioned this... my parents and everyone else try to force me to wear a hijab and a dress, but I always refuse because that's not what makes me happy. I never practice religion because I'm simply not interested. because my parents never taught me but that makes me feel glad they didn't. everyone constantly criticizes me so much, I don't know how much longer I can handle it. I wish I was never born here and in this body, I barely feel feminine and it just makes me feel like an object, seriously. I don't want to hear "oh you're just on the wrong path" no I am not, I know what I want and it's definitely not this.
Because of RUclips guidelines, it's hard for me to explicitly say how I feel about religions.
@@manalassouli thank you so much❤ that's really great your parents raised you right, I wish more parents were like that
@@majkou
I'm sorry for you, you don't deserve this.
I go through this everyday as well, my parents are 100% brainwashed and scared of what people would say if I take it off.
They don't give a shit about my mental state.. I expressed my discomfort wearing the hijab and made a big fuss about it but they never gave a shi t.
I refuse to stay in this toxic household.
@@Alala-u5c it's refreshing to see someone who also feels the same way, many people just say that it's the shaytan trying to corrupt you, when in reality that's completely false. they're so blind, why can't they just hear out and understand different perspectives?
A really good friend of mine has dealt with a lot of religious trauma. Might share this video with them. I feel very bad for how he was treated by his peers in his religious group and such. As well as the mental struggles he places on him self as a result of some his traumas. I hope he can heal from them.
@sorencalypso I think that might be a wonderful thing for you to consider doing…sharing this video. Never know how validating it could be to your friend…if you think it might help.
Thanks for shining a light on this problem that plagues us!
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This is a more sensative toxic for me. I am not exactly religious, but I am expected to be. My mom likes to guilty trip with religion. When I make a mistake, or have to work with vague instruction, it's "Lord have mercy on my child" or "Jesus Christ something". I made mistakes in my life, and all I hear is "God is going to punish me." I live with a toxic mother whose "helps" makes me want to end myself. And no, I haven't gotta help. I can't afford it. Even if I could, my mom would stop me. So, I just suppress everything until the day I self destruct
That's really awfull!
But please remember, even your Mom learned through mistakes.
I really hope you have the chance to get some help and much needed distance to your Mom.
@@KaBauz1 I wish I could leave. I don't have the money to go anywhere. My dad and his mom are gone, so that's out. I don't have any physical friends, so I can't stay with them. I just have to deal with it, but I do appreciate your concern and support. And my mom won't learn. She doesn't care about me. Her actions prove it
@@pax_aurum_nightlord what you describe sounds like a situation faced by many adults with autism. A lot of us end up staying with family because we literally can't support ourselves or live independently.
@@jasonhernandez619 I don't have autism. I've just been unemployed for a while now. I do have some learning disabilities, but my main issues are asthma and severe depression
@@jasonhernandez619I’ve always wished there was some kind of place that helps people who grew up with and are stuck in abusive households, especially for those who are neurodivergent. I’m in a similar situation right now but it’s hard to change my environment when I’ve always been so conditioned to be dependent on the people who have always treated me horribly. I hope that some kind of safe haven is possible someday, it’s always been a dream of mine, and I also hope that everyone else who are in similar circumstances are still doing well and hanging in there, you are not alone in this
I feel like certain things I’m not allowed to do because it’s sin even though the Bible doesn’t talk about it 😢
Remember that according to Bible slavery is a good thing
Why you care about a book with many rules and fictional story? Just be free just be you.... why you listen some old dead person ideas and live by it?
Just live your life and set your own morals that benefit you, society, friends to live work together a happy life that should be enough for you... think about life after death how about focus your life now?
I am a atheist I don't understand why people so serious about religion. I remember I thought it was a culture thing for humans but I realize it another whole can of worms that humanity invented. It can be both beautiful and ugly
Like what
If the bible doesn’t mention it at all then its not sinful. Alot of sects of Christianity, such as Baptists and catholics, have alot of extra rules that are not required of you from the bible.
@@Richiko06 Remember that according to Bible women should marry the men who r-worded them.
It pains me to hear that so many people have had such negative experiences with religion. I grew up in a religious family and have had nothing but uplifting experiences. Then again, I feel like I'm in the minority of having two good parents in a good household. Most of the people I know in real life had parents whose marriages were broken and tumultuous, usually leading to divorce and separation. I feel guilty in that growing up in a stable home with two parents is a somewhat privileged outcome.
Good for you but we don't need your sympathy. Just don't use your privilege as gods blessings. It's actually your family's dynamics that blessed you not a deity in the sky. Seek and tired of people with Delutions and use that Delution to invalidate, vilify, demonize and harm others
I used to be insanely religious and I was just at the start of exploring religion taking things slow not until my mum kept forcing me to rush things and do it more ahead. I slowly lost interest and I was trying to gain it back but my mum being forceful made me completely give up. I still follow the same religion but not as religious as before.
Religious parents raised me and made me feel incredibly shameful for being bisexual. Their love is conditional, and that is something no one ever wants to hear. For example, they'll only attend my wedding if I marry a woman.
They are also incredibly intolerant of other races, religions, and look down on those that aren't straight. It's a harsh, tragic upbringing, but one I vow to change when I have my own children. I vow to love my child(ren) regardless of their orientation, gender, or self expression. The vicious cycle ends here.
I feel like religion is a form of power, like any power it can be abused and corrupted, manipulated to coerce its followers and excuse the bad actions of prominent members. On the other side it offers comfort, structure, and purpose. I’m not religious and have been burned by religion, but lots of people need it
woah i never excepted to see something like this, i have really bad religious trauma due to my mom and when i tell anyone, they think im weird or lying, so i keep it to myself, i always thought i was just weird and nobody ekse had it but this made me feel a lot better
I’m trans and gay and even though I’ve never had first hand experience I’ve seen so many people say that I’m sinning and going to hell because of this. It makes me scared to even be in a church or be near religious people because I’m scared of what they’ll say. Mine is probably not as bad as some others but I think it definitely exists, and it’s probably a common theme among lgbtq people
You shouldn’t be afraid to be in a church. The people in the church are not the ones who get to deny your ticket into heaven. that being said, there is scripture about being gay, and etc, and although its wrong, you can be forgiven by God of those thoughts, you just shouldn’t act on them. Your case would be something up to God.
Yeah it is in fact very common among our community 2 of my past girlfriends broke up with me before because they got scared by their families saying that "they'll go to hell" because "man is for woman and woman is for man" so yeah it just hurts
@@qTravis666 you’re adding to it, I mean I don’t even know if I believe in god at this point but saying that I can’t live my life how I want to hurts
@qTravis666 you literally just said, "Oh, don't be afraid to go into the church for being yourself, just try not to be yourself."
While there are some good churches and good people, I agree with the original commenter. You never know if you're around religious people who don't care about that as long as you're happy, or if you're around bigoted religious people who say you're going to hell and use "love the sinner, hate the sin" as an excuse to hate both.
@@SnailTrailJay
You can. Just don't expect a second chance since you know and keep practicing what God dislikes. He won't torture for all eternity since Hell doesn't exist. You'll just simply cease to exist.
Living through it right now. My father is a religious cult leader, who makes all fear this negative spiritual abuse from him. He uses these exact tactics to abuse his position and "power" over the church. He rules through fear and intimidation.
That’s an evil and vile man.
As an Iranian, anything related to Islam gives me PTSD...
100%
You were shia not muslim
@@AmrFattouh-ex2yt actually no, what you just said is wrong. But I don't want this argument here. I just shared my trauma. Have at least respect for that in this regard.
@@AmrFattouh-ex2yt Shia are also muslims... goober.
I was raised in christian sect but I found many similarities with Islam so I guess I understand you. Sect controlled every hour of a day
I love how the ad I got before the video was a religious ad for a prayer app :,)
U dont need to watch this video because the answer is YESS
You're a 🌽 addict so therefore your opinion is invalid 😴😴 carry on
Of course, even though I appreciate this video, this isn't even show 1/10 of how traumatizing the Abrahamic religions are.
@@anuruksuriyaarachchi3988 I mean it depends I grew up in a very liberal Christian church (UCC) and now I'm a queer sufi Muslim. My experience is drastically different because I've surrounded myself with theists who aren't jerks. And not fo nothing there is religious trauma in all faiths.
@@craigmusa2254 Both religions promote to treat Pagans differently(Even Jesus did it making a foreigner wanting beg to cure her daughter). Being Queer isn't any problem at all but those fundamentalist racists is the problem here. Of course I've read the bible, Jesus himself demands to love him more than anything else in the world. I was really traumatized by the beliefs I had. Especially because of the bible. From Amazing Atheist channel, I got to know that Koran do the worse. it was clearly written on Koran to fight against anyone goes away from the religion. Faith itself is meant that as " certificate of hope and trust of the unseen stuff. What else can I call that as a delusion? You can say that's the misinterpretation of whatever the book but when I pray, I saw gory nightmares back then. I heard threatening voices. If god is all powerful and just, why couldn't he give more reliable pathway which doesn't isolate me? Why was the 2019 April 21 bomb blast happened? Think of prophet Jonah? God didn't understand his fear(I feel like he but he's rather sadistic) after his service the people in that city got repented. Then, Jonah was so angry but what happened the prophets who came earlier? If you know that's the nature of the god. You better hurry and find a way for our survival. Luckily, thanks to atheists' channels. now I do feel better. Another thing is the anti-psychotic medication. I avoid going to the church because I was stigmatized there for watching Happy Tree Friends. They're revealing that in the hidden way. So, why should I risk to participate in something that doesn't fulfil my requirement? They don't even know that my medical condition and how they help cope with those triggers better. Bible is a very dangerous book if you're reading it without the guidance and 100% faith,
I have a religious trauma from Islam. The emotional abuse and manipulation are unbearable, especially to women. I've lived in denial and manipulated myself for two years. But I decided that I'm not Muslim anymore. It is not reasonable to believe in an idea that is not convincing. If it was "The truth" then it wouldn't be that hard to follow it, especially for women. I don't understand the unreasonable biases against women in all religions (not excluding Islam or Christianity). I decided that I won't lie to myself anymore. I've lied and denied it enough. The thing is that I don't know what to do in my life anymore. I feel I'm living without a soul. (It was because of Islam not because of leaving it). Seeing Christian people in the comments feeling the same, gave me some reassurance. Because it happens to all HUMAN beings. It doesn't matter what religion they were born in.
Exactly, I was raised Muslim. My mom and sister are Muslim. And it’s horrible honestly it might be the reason I die, I’ve been getting very bad suicidal thoughts honestly
Unfortunately this is a real thing my parents are catholic and I think I am just not cut out for catholic religion I know they want a good path about it but every time they talk about religion is mandatory it makes me sick to my stomach I am gonna make a conformation this year but I’m not sure I wanna do it I been thinking of leaving the church when I make my conformation but my heart goes out to anyone who has been a victim of spiritual abuse
Being religious and have a faith can be 2 totally different things.
It really comes down our mind set.
Like you could be someone who's just a "church goer" and be there just following rituals and a routine.
Or you could be someone choosing to follow God because you love him and choosing to go to church because you genuinely want to, but not cause you felt like your forced to.
As a muslim girl being forced to cover my hair, not allowed to wear makeup and nailpolish, not allowed to sing, dance, laugh out loud, not allowed to wear skirts or tops even in my house, not having a boyfriend and....
IDK if i'm living or i'm just alive😓
I feel unhedonic😪
I hope you can escape the cult that is keeping you trapped. You deserve everything in life. Please seek help, if you can do so safely.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
My experience is a little hard to explain because I've never been abused specifically but my teachings left me in a difficult place mentally. I accepted religion on my own when i was young and the churches we would go to constantly brought up the end times and prophesy and everything bad, one even zealously proclaiming homosexuality is the antichrist. Our main church ended up stealing money from the members and ran away when they were found out but those teachings stayed in me. When I found out I'm trans i kinda hayed myself for it but i ended up leaving the teachings behind. Last year had been very difficult though because i was reminded by it because i was constantly exposed to hearing people say that world events were tied to all that stuff from before so I always feel anxious and guilty just for my lifestyle but I'm working through it and trying my best
Look up the “ residential schools “ it’s a great example of “spiritual abuse / religious trauma”
Just like the missionaries once did in Canada.
I think my mom was spiritually abused,I think that's why she doesn't go to Church anymore,and sometimes she watches masses from home. Mom always complains that her older sister says to her "the bible says to honour father and mother",but dhe says that my aunt never do this,and my mom was abused by her mother and father,so why she should honor them? I think I became atheist because religions could ruin people,relationships...and that they're human's invention.
Most of the religions are made by man for men. Women rights in some religions are so absurd and disgusting. I'm an Ex-Buddhist and people really think Buddhism is the most peaceful. As someone who lived for almost 20 years in a Buddhism majority country, I would like to say that Buddhism is or was never the most peaceful religion. There is no such thing as a peaceful religion.
Religion is not “humanity’s invention”
@@qTravis666 I've seen you a lot of times now 🥲🥲 please you're not helping them
I respect your choices and understand the point of why you became an atheist 🫡🫡 i hope you and your mother heal from you guy's religious traumas
@@qTravis666 It is. All religion is man made.
Yes, it is. For example, I was terrified out of my mind when my parents forced me to watch a movie that depicted what hell is like, as a child, it terrified me! Ever since then I just cannot look at religion as a good thing. Of course being told by my family that I loved wholeheartedly, that I'm going to hell, and that I deserve to go to hell because I didn't think religion was a good thing, really didn't help my opinion towards religion.
This was an incredibly helpful video, Thank You.
I don't know you neither your life or how your family is or who you are, so treat this just as a strange giving random opinion online: But it what you said is true, it seems you need to find people in your life who their support and love and appreaciation to your person, is not as contingent(conditioned/dependent) to what you believe, as your family is.
And maybe, find peace within yourself( Because from what I have thought about, and a realization I had after a day where I ended up giving in to the temptation of porn again, it seems that external love is important, but more important to ourselves internally, is to reach a level of not feeling like you need other's love so much to be okay with yourself, with your sense of self.(this applies for me and is a common issue for many of us ,human beings, don't want to sound like I'm giving a "sermon")
people who, even if they are religious, when you talk about the issues you faced with religion, they listen to you more than feeling like telling about or imposing their own views. People who see you as a human when you talk about religion and bad experiences with religion, not as someone that needs to be convinced, a "sheep to be indoctrinated, a person to scare with fear of hell". That care more about the friend/ person who is speaking to them when you are speaking, than with imposing their religious views or expressing their views religiously.
Anyone else having problems with the subtitles not being English despite everything else saying it should be?
It’s not just parents who cause religious trauma. Many times it’s the actual church, members within it and leaders, that a person attends that causes religious trauma.
I experienced religious trauma as a child but now have a hatred for churches and not God. People are the cause of this trauma and not god themselves. I understand though if people with this trauma turns their back on religion as everyone is different
Being honest, my religious trauma honestly began when I saw my father pray and his double face when he spoke about the sins of others.
He used to beat my mother, so, when I saw him prayer and the mere thought of God forgiving his sins and sending him to heaven just for that... it made my blood boil, it made me feel like the God of that religion was false or even a devil in disguise.
I ended up turning to dharmic religions, because for me, they are more spiritual and seem to show more ways to reach the "enlightment" I seek, because they are often more accepting, since it's mostly about growing as a person. I do wish to reconcile with the idea of God from monotheistic religions, but as for now, baby steps is all I can do.
I do not wish to dislike certain religions out of one stupid man, I feel it's unfair.
to be honest i don't know which religion is true and sometimes i get scared abt it, especially after death, but i do know i shouldn't think abt this yet because im still a kids and i have a lot of gilt with religion when other talk abt it :(
oh sorry abt that
@@whrufyr it's fine and im over with most of it
Dw you'll never get the answer 😂
the death cults have us obsessing / fearing death ….
@@MayWintHtal-sz5cu even if it's nothing it's hard to think... like for example, what is nothing?
I have a friend who went through the same experience. She dreamt to be a musical artist. Her musical talent was insane and the songs she wrote are so deep and to me it was better than most artists today. She used to be an enthusiastic soul and fought through so many battles and got so many awards for performing. She belongs from a Muslim family and at some point she had to give up on her dream because its considered impermissible for them. I still remember, how heartbroken she was that day and slowly I saw the light in her soul and eyes fade away. Still to this day, she hasnt been the same. Its like a part of her died with her dream that day. I miss the lyrics she used to write and her genuine smile. I hope she finds happiness in life and finds peace with her religion
I’m a Christian myself and I have severe religious trauma that I’ve been trying to deal with lately. It is very real and the people who cause this are *WRONG* for scaring people like that. My love for Jesus was used by a “pastor” to brainwash and manipulate me severely and I’m still trying to get over it. Keep fighting, friends. Your religious trauma is not your fault and God truly does love you. ❤
Which make believe god loves us? All religions are made up and cults, so are all the gods…..
As a gay guy living with very religious parents, yes
People said I am going to hell for it! I started believing it! Now I ask the wrong questions...
like how to cope with infinite torture? well you dont...
I dont know how to stop believing this! its crippeling...
@@DasHeino2010you just need to ask God for forgiveness bro, your not going to hell unless you continue believing your fine, and its just the way you are.
You deserve everything bad in life like fr, not just trauma, like tf? gay you aint on the right way at all
@@DasHeino2010 yeah the "you're going to hell" thing is extreme 🥲 my first gf broke up with me because of it and dated a guy TvT and after that i just never went to church again and forgot about their "God"
@MilesJA1904, I understand you sweetheart. I can have my beliefs but I respect others with their ways of thinking or living. One friend told me that his parents kicked him out of home when he said was gay, and his parents traumatized him with all their comments. He was a good person, working hard and very charismatic person. I could see in him the importance of being respectful to others and that what I believe in my religion applies ONLY to me not to others. I don’t need to say or do anything to make feel sad, angry or upset 😢 anyone about their sexual orientation, appearance, religion, disability or any differences. I don’t need to affect anyone in any way. All we need each other I want to send you a big hug 🫂 full of love ❤️ to you and to anyone who needs it, you are loved and you can have your spiritual peace and growth in your own way , you deserve to be happy ❤and loved. I love you 😘 and you can be an angel to many people helping, creating, doing and saying positive things and actions in this world 🌎. Please 🙏 remember that you are important in this world and all positive contributions you can make to others in your journey can make this world better. God bless you all with love, acceptance, health, prosperity and happiness. ❤🌎 ❤
Christian fundamentalism can even lead to vaginismus, an internal disorder where any insertion (even tampons) is horribly painful. Religious trauma is NOT to be taken lightly. Being seen as inherently bad for no reason (being gay, practicing magic, etc) makes it nearly impossible to gain independence and self love if you happen to be seen as "invalid" based on Christianity.
I was raised in a religious household and as time went on, I started to grow out of it. I wasn't praying a lot in bed, not interested in attending church, stuff like that. Though my mom is kinda pushy when it comes to religion, telling me to do this or do that all for the sake of Jesus/God, which I know it's forcing religion onto your kid, I didn't mind it but it did annoyed me. I wasn't sure about my religion since I'm slowly leaning towards becoming an Atheist, I don't know if it's a good thing
I think you made a very good point. Parents never seem to realize that they are forcing their religion on their children. If their children decide to be religious as they mature, that's fine, but if it's being forced upon them, I see that as intentional indoctrination.
It’s not a good thing, if you think about it really hard, Atheism really doesn’t make any sense. I know that some religious zealots can be in your face, but its just because they are overcompensating for their own guilty conscience vicarious of you. A good amount of the things these people say are not in the bible. You missing Church every once in awhile is not a one way ticket to damnation, but rejecting God entirely, is .
@@qTravis666 So you're saying that if a person rejects God for any reason, even if that person is as virtuous as they come, they are going to go to hell? How does that make any sense? And if that's God's decision, doesn't that mean he's actually the evil one? If you think about it, someone who would cause another endless suffering all because they didn't choose to accept them is pretty damn evil and insane. Also, by that logic, all people of the world that are not Christian would be damned to hell. There are many nations in the world that are Buddhist, Muslim, or several other regional religions that are not widely known, these people are not evil by any means, and yet by Christian viewpoints they would all be going to hell!? That's what frightened me away from religion, a God that would literally damn people to eternal suffering all because they do not accept him.
@@qTravis666 Your god is the most immoral and heartless creature in your holey book. Fearmongering, victim blaming, gaslighting, etc. Your religion does all of that. A mental pyramid scheme preying on weak and vulnerable.
My dad keeps saying "You'll grow into church"...
BRO WHAT?!!!!
I believe there is! All the talk of how we are sinners and evil humans. And no teaching of how much we are loved and valuable. Can make someone believe they are worthless. I believed that for a long time. I am in my forties and realize I am worth something and am valuable
Some faith communities have a better balance of these teachings.
Hence the problem: victimization.
You're using it to feel sorry for yourself and as an excuse to blame God for everything that's gone wrong in your life.
@@TheEliminator1992 hmmm I don't blame anyone for my mistakes. I own them and am pretty honest in my opinion of myself. But yes the church I went to when I was young really relied on how evil we are and how we are always going to fall short. I have found a church that had that balance. So like this video said it can give us trauma. I know how much Jesus loves us. We are worth something. He died for us.
@@TheMaryberry6061
Yes he died for you but his sacrifice won't be of any use to us if we keep doing things he's clearly condemned. I'm not trying to put you down but that's just the way it is and many people don't like to be told what to do.
@@TheEliminator1992 actually that isn’t true. No matter if we sin God continues to forgive because we have the blood of Jesus Christ washed over us! It covers a multitude of sins! Jesus said to forgive 77x7 which means don’t stop forgiving! He hasn’t! Forgive others as God in Christ forgives you! The difference between us and the world is that our eyes are open to our sin theirs are not! We can repent! Can they truly repent without Christ? No! They are a slave to sin! We have been set free but we still battle our flesh and sometimes we fall. There’s sins even us believers struggle with but we simply ask God for help! None of us will be perfect until Jesus comes back for us! Each and every day he is molding and perfecting us into his image! Perfection!
Being told that I’m going to hell no matter what and never being good enough is what made me leave. My school years in Catholic School was beyond traumatic. I’ve told my story plenty of times, so it doesn’t like haunt me anymore ever since therapy. However, just because I’ve healed doesn’t mean I’ll go back. I’m staying away from religion at alls costs. I’ll still believe in a greater deity, but not the one I learned from Catholicism.
@@MissSirenita honey I know it’s horrible to hear. But Jesus sacrificed his life for you and through him God sees you as perfect when he looks at you he doesn’t see your sin he sees his son! All you gotta do is believe. And that is your choice.
When I was a 12 year old girl. A nun in a Catholic school told me that I was not an innocent pure girl, just because my boobs grow bigger than normal a 12 year old. I became so insecure after that day.
I'm so sorry
What the hell?? That nun is a fucking dumbass how could you be even THAT stupid 😭 I'm really sorry that you had to go through that
Literally no one could control the size of their boobs, what was that nun thinking? 💀
One thing i can say as someone with religious trauma is that it’s ignorant to be disrespectful to people just because they hold a certain religious belief. You’re not at fault for your negative feelings towards a particular religion but as an adult you are responsible for your actions. Be kind to each other and respectful. Be forgiving to others and yourself. The freedom you’ll experience from this will benefit you more than any other
Some time ago, I've come to the conclusion that religion is nothing more--on the personal level--than a way of being. And on a grand scale: A way of getting people to act certain ways. And whomever created it, and it's tomes, had a deep understanding of human psychology well before any scientific methods of explaining anything were realized... so it's no wonder there's trauma resulting from it.
This is sad that people use religion to do such horrible and for selfish and disgusting things I’ve never had any trauma from religion but I know people have done thing for “lord” and it horrible I’m sorry for the people had too go through things like this and hope they’re healing or doing okay
Yes, religious trauma exists.
This can be a form of someone shaming you for who you are because of their beliefs. It can make resent yourself or make you feel shame for just being different. Especially when you are constantly being told "you're going to hell" for being the way you are.
Ive never clicked on a video faster in my life 💀
I used to be somewhat religious but i just knew it wasnt for me. As long as ur beliefs aren't hurting anybody, absolutely fine to be religious. I just HATE that people force it and then act so suprised when they get called out for it 😒
for every good idea there will always be people who use it as a personal means of gain.
I notice that most people with religious trauma grew up with religious parents. I have religious trauma despite that. It's nowhere near as severe as most stories I hear, but I do think it's interesting how it can apply even without such an overbearing influence. I am very fortunate to have someone in my life who understands the difference between religion and spirituality, and also understands that religion is not a thing to push someone into. I am in a much better place because of them.
Yeah. Definitely what I experienced as a Jehovah’s Witness growing up. And even after I was out at 16, it took many years for feel safe with myself and trust my own mind. Be safe out there everyone.
It just wasn't for you.
@@TheEliminator1992 what an unnecessary and invalidating comment and also one that complete misses the point of the video. Many people in the Jehovah’s Witness community/religion often face the same thing and telling a person “it just wasn’t for you” just ignores the issue and perpetuates the problem of many.
@@earnieboy54
It's incredibly ignorant and childish for you to generalize the whole religion because of a bad experience YOU had. It's about as ridiculous as a person classifying people of the opposite sex as bad because of a bad experience. Only the weak minded think that way
@@TheEliminator1992 you’re the definition of a reactive person. I never said the whole religion. I said “me” and “many people” in my response to you. Religion is a problem mainly due to the people that lead it and enforcing their agenda. Issues that affect a lot of people not just me. Do the research. But you absolutely defined yourself in the first two words. You’re childish and ignorant. Good try mate. You played yourself.
@@TheEliminator1992 thank you for proving my point and show truly who the ignorant and childish one is. Thanks mate
YES YES YES YESSSS i am so happy you covered this topic. I did behave in a bad way when i suffered religous trauma (still am but doing bit better) blamed everything on religion and said nasty stuff which i wish i hadn't. Having friends who are religous friends who arent bigoted changed my world fr❤ healing takes time ❤
I don't have any religious trauma, but I understand that this happened to some people. If you want to know why I said this, because I'm a Muslim and also being spiritual. I ever had a thought that I should stop being religious (in Indonesia, there are so many terrorism attack in Bali and Jakarta, and it's done by some 'Muslim' who had brainwashed by religious cult to bombing tourism place like Bali and some hotels in Jakarta). But then, I realized that my religion doesn't teach a***e and intolerance to other religions. So, I still being religious since I broke up with my ex in 2012 and being spiritual since 2018. And let me tell you: Islam is not related to terrorist, because murder is a sin. And if you think that I support of what Hamas did to some Israeli, you're wrong. I'm in neutral position, so I'm not supporting Israel nor Hamas in the aggression situation. Thank you for reading this comments 😊
Still not enough to convince me to join your cult. The Pope who commissioned artist Michel Angelo to cover his naked paintings to make it decent got told by the painter that he will cover the naked bodies if the priest can make a decent world to live in. You are barking at the wrong tree. Go tell what your religion is to your extremis muslim believer.
I'm so glad there's a name to my negative experiences with my church and religious upbringing
In the philippines, we have that notorious quibulok (it is sad that there are people who still support and listen to that pastor despite his sinful acts and do victim blaming on victims). I also find it sad that people like him try to justify their heinous deeds.
I know, there are people like him in the USA and in Europe as well.
Paki sabi mo kung ano evidences ng accusation mo. Wala Kang context, so it doesn't makes sense.
At sinong preachers sa Pinas sa patingin mo mas better than Apollo Quiboloy, ano suggestions mo?
@@Mur-zoUxw Jesus always loves you a lot!
Praise the Lord!
Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!
HAVE FAITH!
REPENT! TRUST IN GOD!
✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
@@davidarvingumazon5024 Jesus always loves you a lot!
Praise the Lord!
Loved the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!
HAVE FAITH!
REPENT! TRUST IN GOD!
✝️🐑💓🙏🏻🎁🤍
Also the Iglesia ni Cristo
I say yes. I was born and raised in the Mormon church and finally had the choice to leave when I moved out. I've never been so happy since I moved out and left the Church.
I grow up hating my late father & the rules based on the religion he forced me to obey, become rebel & only follow the rules out of fear of him. He tried to force the rules in an abusive way & abit of a narcissistic, e.g telling us not to angry because it will ruin our morals while in fact, he's the one who was angry all the time.
But after he passed away, I feel that I've got freedom to learn what I like. I learn more about various religion. Away from him, I can calmed down & think more clearly by myself.
After quite a long time in that condition, I finally decided to keep my original religion (the same religion with my father), but now by my own choice as a result of my study, experience & understanding, without his influence at all.
I think if someone teach someone else a religion forcefully, the result wouldn't be good. Be a good model first & let people choose. Religion is a choice that would be a personal responsibility after all.
This was something i went through for a few years. My mom was super understanding and loving so from her i got my good religious habits but living in the south and going to a Christian school ruined it. Being told that music i liked was bad or making me sign a contract to read my Bible every night as well as showing us The Passion of the Christ just drove me crazy. For around 6-8 years i was absolutely terrified of everything and constant paranoia. It took me until finding Bible Project which reframed my whole concept of religion and im super happy with my faith nowadays. I still have moments of ptsd from it but i know that my God loves me and wants me to be happy, not constantly scared. I dont believe in hell as a place so much as the times we live in now and have decided there is no real devil, just the shadow self like jung described it. I have peace and can love and live my life in joy now and im so grateful for it.
I do believe in God, but i've been distancing myself away from church because of the community. I do want to go, but whenever i remember the guilt-tripping of our preacher,i feel suffocated. The feeling of my parents forcing me to go to church just doesn't sit right with me.
Edit: I tried going, but our preacher kept guilt-tripping me because i wasn't going to church every Sunday.
…same here. Very same
Same, im scared to talk with anyone who approaches me with religion, because i dont want to experience the flashbacks ive had, i miss my old self, i was so creative and weird and funny, but because of this trauma i feel like that old me is dead, but i still do talk to god when i can, my trauma might make it harder though..
I grew up in a small area where Christianity was the only religious path and my family was mostly religious but I never really bought into it. So, when I got older, and started finding my love of metal and all things horror, everyone around me tried to make me feel like liking those things were wrong and I've had to sit through plenty of religion talks because of my interests. This lead to me becoming distant and numb inside and always feeling the need to wear that fake smile to not be called an embarrassment and yelled at or smacked. Now when I see religion ads or when Christian topics are brought up around me, it triggers me to the point where I'm quick to dismiss it all together. Thank you for making this video and my support goes to everyone facing this trauma. You are never alone.
I came from a religious background. And I came to conclusion that you can't hate the religion because the people around you failed to explain you the religion. Instead of hating your religion.. simply distance yourself from them
Hating religion especially when you are betrayed by it is a valid feeling. It's important that feelings like that are acknowledged. After all, these religions should be held accountable at some point. Now holding hate is not healthy and yes distancing yourself from anything related to that can help with healing.
Thank you so much for covering this! I am a former Baptist turned anti-theist. Stepping into a church triggers me now to the point where I need to leave so I can breathe normally. I get insulted when someone says "god bless" to me or tells me to pray or they will pray for me. My heavily religious family will never listen to me when I say no to as church invite or tell me to pray. I wish there was an easier way to explain my stance to them without them arguing.
@@megustare8337 being an anti theist is bigoted. It’s fine to be an atheist, but you should leave people alone to practice what they want
I'm not even telling anyone to stop. I'm just staying away from religion based on my own experience that now shape what I believe. Very smart of you to assume like that 🙄
I think I'm lucky that I was born into a family that believes in science. We have religion, but we don't believe in individuals. Everyone is just human.
Yes. How could anyone disagree?
A lot of gay youth experience trauma from their religious family members.
The thing about trauma is that what may be traumatic to one person, may not be to another or the trauma may be met with more resilience in one person vs the next.
My dad was a drug addict. My mom was very emotionally and physically distant. My nana... she hung out with me at least sometimes. She told me stories. That was better than what my mom did. My mom didn't even talk to me when I was growing up.
But when I was a teenager, I came out. My Roman Catholic nana completely rejected me. I had a really good group of friends back then that kept me moving forward. Plus, I did a lot of drugs and stuff for a while. Fast foward 15 years and it really hit me how much her rejection hurt me.
I am appalled and in disbelief that someone could hold passages in a book in higher regard than the mental and emotionally well-being (which if neglected or harmed tends to lead to physical neglect or harm) of their loved one.
In my own experience with this, I'm not a part of any organized religion although I still believe in God. I feel like many different religions are very similar that there is really no reason for them to be separated. Also, love you all at Psych2go ❤️
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise has either never been a victim of it or the one causing it. Growing up I was traumatized by Christianity to the point where it was forced down my throat.
My therapist says I have religious trauma.
My previous therapist always ignored and rushed in when speaking about religious trauma.
I barely had courage to talk with therapist about religious trauma, and when I talked about how religion affected me, she didn't give solutions.
Even though I have openly said I don't want to go to church, my step-dad still wants to force me to go. He has even called me a heathen before. That just makes me want to go even less.
Religion helped my cousin get off of drugs. She's been doing better. What's more religion also helped her dad come back earlier this year
I feel constantly judged by my Mormon extended family. I never got baptized and support the LGBTQ+ community and it’s really hard to feel the judgement and hate towards people I care about, and judgement towards my whole family for leaving the church
Is it also religious trauma if someone has grown up surrounded by people who showed a great interest in religion, but also 'spirits' and 'demons', and made someone, as a child, believe that even just thinking of any such creatures can 'call' them to you, and that the dead become ghosts who are ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS present and watching, and any bad thought can anger them and have them shame you/wait until they meet you after your death?
Doesnt sound like Christianity, so im going to flat out say thats crazy.
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It depends on upbringing and your parents. Not because of religion directly. People who usually face this do not understand religion or not religious and then pressured by parents to follow it anyway without proper understanding. So, once they grow up and find a little bit of freedom, they go completely against their religion and blame everything about it. So, yes manipulation plays a very strong role here.
Can you do a video on Religious OCD? I'm really curious about it, and feel like it would help some people out there to know what it is.