It’s just part of the thumbnail game. As stupid as all these clickbait thumbnails are, they work. The good thing is that once you get past the dumb thumb on a WL House vid (which is trying to get even non-WLers to click), the content is always high quality
Simply astonishing. These women are amazing, and Li Wenwen in particular. As a lifter myself its like thinking your mustang is a powerful vehicle, only to watch an F-16 annihilate the sound barrier right next to you at the stop light.
Absolutely incredible athlete, however I feel like everyone forgets about the Greco Roman heavyweight Aleksandr Karelin. In his 13 or so years of competing internationally he went 887-2 won 3 out of 4 golds at the Olympics and his final loss was 0-1was due to a technical rule change from a few months before, the first point he’d given up in 6 YEARS. If that isn’t the most dominant athlete of all time then I don’t know what is.
She's not even the most dominant athlete in contemporary weightlifting, Lasha is way more dominant. Let alone other sports ( ever heard like you said of Aleks Karelin, Teddy Riner, Bolt etc ) Just because she bloomed early and dominated for 3 years because there aren't many 150kg women doesn't mean she is the most dominant.
@@eddyededwin Of course she is "dominating" without the opponent that was dominating her while wieghing 40kg less... LWW = big fish in a extra shallow pond of athletes... ( Emily Campbell = +87 euro champ with a 17kg less total than Solfrid who is 45kg lighter xD ) Bolt has never been beaten, he is still holding WR... LWW couldn't even match Tatiana's record while weighing almost 1.5x en BW... WTF are you on man ?
Glad for this one. I remember mentioning her in another vid because she is just a terror. So far ahead that I don't think anyone legitimately competes with her, even Lasha has people who are close enough to him that a bad day can put him in 2nd.
the most dominant olympian athlete ever is Alexander Karelin... just check the insane run of that man in the wikipedia I think he was like 10 year in a row without losing a single point
Not disagreeing but the field for Super Heavy Weightlifters and Wrestlers (especially Greco-Roman) is so tiny where as the people that have ever competeted on some level in running or swimming is literally many millions and that makes Bolt and Phelps accomplishments much more impressive.
On the last few lines of the video: In an interview from 2019, Meng Suping said she'd retire sooner. Still, she was worried that, prior to Li Wenwen's international debut, team China would lose the edge in the women's superheavy category so she insisted on competing for one more year. So, on the one hand, Meng probably wouldn't be a factor for Li to lift heavier because Meng treated Li as her successor. On the other hand, Tatianna probably can force Li to lift the heaviest she can.
Alexeev was at the top of the totem pole in the supers for a LONG time and he was never defeated, but fell victim to an injury. Even today years after his peak, his top CJ of 256 in a Russian national meet is a high bar for supers to exceed.
What? No he didn't, he won 45 championships which is by far a record but he never won every tournament of even a single calendar year in his entire career. Winning every single tournament of a calendar year in the modern sumo tournament system is so rare it's only been done once. We shouldn't exaggerate his feats because he - is - the greatest sumo wrestler ever Just by simple math, he has the most tournaments wins by a single rikishi at 45, next is Taiho at 32. Every year has 6 tournaments If he won every tournament for a decade plus, he would be at like well over +60 tournament wins
li wen wen against Tatiana Kashirina best numbers in 2012, 155 snatch and 193 clean and jerk. what about that, who is the best!. Li wen wen is the most dominant liftet in his category because of lack of good lifters in that category but she's not yet the best super heavy weight female ever
Usain Bolt, because the 100 m is the event with the most prestige and the hardest competition at the olympics. Everyone runs 100m once in his life. Swimming has so many events at the olympics, but if you lose the most relevant event as Phelps did against Thorpe, you can´t be the most dominant athlete.
Li Wenwen is not the most dominate weightlifter in her class of all time. Tatiana Kashirina at her peak was 13 kg better in the total. I think if Li Wenwen were to gain 30 kg she could break Tatiana records. If Solfrid Koanda were to gain 30 kg by going on the all you can eat midnight cake diet popularized by Hojamuhammet Toychyyev the super from Turkmenistan she could make the competition exciting.
13 kg better while being 50 kg lighter xD Not even the most dominant in her own weight class let alone most dominant weightlifter ( and I don't even mention other sports ) ... 100% clickbait title
Unfortunately the arguments for her being the most dominant have a massive flaw. There's been a lifter who did noticeably more in both lifts and the total. Neither of them are natural, and the drug testing of Chinese athletes in particular can hardly be taken seriously.
El poder femenino, en su maxima exprecion, no importa la nacionalidad, y sobre el mismo tema, me pregunto el porque lo yankees ( que se sepa), nunca han presentado a un levantador olimpico, con el mismo o mejor que : rusos, bulgaros, chinos ( lo mas granado de este gran deporte).
Bro i been watchin li wen wen since last year I knew she was gonna be great at tokyo. Also cannot wait to see whats in store for her now as an Olympic champion hopefully she keeps training and achieving more on the platforms since more lifters now will try to beat her record so she will have some great rivals in the near future💯
Most dominant but yet she still hasn't touched Kashirina's, who weighed 45kg less, WR... This bad habit to reset record every now and then, by restructuring the weight classes, and act as if they never existed is really getting old in WL. She's nowhere near as dominant as Lasha either ( just to name someone who is still active , let alone all time greats )
@@genautelevishn5999 Maybe because it's 50% clickbait 50% straight lie ..? I don't need respectable channels to use snake oil influencers tricks for me to watch their videos.
Nice. However, Kashirina has lifted more. No one has lifted as much as Lasha, so he's the GOAT. With that said, I'm a big fan of Li Wenwen. I think she'll surpass Kashirina's records in the future.
Illin Ilia before 2015 will be the most dominant oly lifter in my opinion. Winning the most crowded men categories 85 - 94 - 105 is way more difficult than women supers.
@@Roham4eva Exactly, it's really a millenial/genZ thing to rewrite history, just in the lights of the last 2 years... Even Ilya isn't the greatest of all time, just the greatest generational talent ( for a decade around 2005-2015) like Lu was after him and Nasar will probably be Li Wen Wen ? LOL
@@Miiiiiiighty yeah ofc. i mean, im pretty biased towards ilya since hes my fav lifter, but the most dominant is ofc the goat naim. im looking for a good weightlifter in the most dominant weightlifter of all time. this chinese chicks technique just makes me repulse.
Finally you got a sponsor! If they could ship to rest of Eu that would be amazing! her category is +87 and she is double that. this is just beyond stupid. these categories are making this sport be an absolute joke.
I feel you wanted to get clicks with this title. By no means the most dominant athlete. And please save the cost comparisons for countries to ‚fund‘ a gold medal. Do you think it costs 5 Million $ for Cuba to form a gold medal athlete? Towards the end you lost the story, started to mix things up. Other than this video, good content and channel in general.
200% clickbait title. She isn't even the most dominant in her weight class, let alone women WL, let alone WL and I won't even mention other sports ( Karelin, Teddy Riner, Bolt, Bubka, Javier Sottomayor, Jonathan Edwards, Yuriy Sedykh who still has the hammer throw WR by 3meters ( 5%) almost 40 years later, Uwe Hohn who was responsible for the javelin being modified because he threw way past 100 meters consistently, Ryan Crouser and the list goes on and on and on 🤣🤷♂
Dominance means something different to me. It’s about competition and longevity, also, at least in weightlifting. Otherwise, lifters with few/one off performances like Lovchev or Aramnau would be mentioned. Although obviously impressive, Wen hasn’t matched the lifts of Kashirina. And she hasn’t been through the Olympic cycles of say a Lasha, never mind a Dimas. Side by side, Lasha is clearly more dominant, having set the all time historical record. Having lesser competition is not the greatest yardstick of performance imo.
Exactly, you have to have a decent timespan or it doesn't mean shyte. If a one or two hit wonder was the most dominant just because they absolutely crushed their competition once or twice it wouldn't make sense. Just a current gen Z thing to think 1 or 2 years of dominance is an " era " xD
Nice story, but respectfully, this lifter is hardly the most dominate of all time, let alone the most dominate Olympian across all sports. In weightlifting, your introductory video clips of the great weightlifters past and present all far exceed this person’s accomplishments in my view.
The definition of dominant (in this video) is the difference between an athlete and their closest competitors. By this definition she is the most dominant. I agree with you that in terms of accomplishments there are definitely more successful weightlifters.
@@WeightliftingHouse You are not responsible for your level of opposition though. Women olympic WL is a young sport and there are physical reason why she has no competitor ... She is basically Gor's weight... You don't find 150kg men around every corner, let alone women... Basically a huge fish in a infinitesimal pond
Coulda, woulda, shoulda... Bo was definitely one of the most athletic though, but most dominant ...? He definitely wasn't he could he have ? We'll never now because there are many other parameters for a great career than just being athletic.
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Finally WH getting that bag
I love how they’ve blacked out half the face in the thumbnail to try and hide who it is as if it isn’t still blatantly obvious
that's fat shaming. not cool, not cool 😂
Seb mentioned that he tries to make these videos for a wider audience, so a random lifter might not know who she is.
@@thorthewolf8801 I don't think a random lifter would know with or without a blacked out face
It’s just part of the thumbnail game. As stupid as all these clickbait thumbnails are, they work. The good thing is that once you get past the dumb thumb on a WL House vid (which is trying to get even non-WLers to click), the content is always high quality
I thought the person in the thumbnail was Naim at first. Truly shocked at the reveal.
7:15 mad respect for Li Wenwen's coach as he got low in order to catch her if she jumped up in joy!
Simply astonishing. These women are amazing, and Li Wenwen in particular. As a lifter myself its like thinking your mustang is a powerful vehicle, only to watch an F-16 annihilate the sound barrier right next to you at the stop light.
This young Chinese lady made it more exciting with her motivational yells pumping herslf up before each lift.
Absolutely incredible athlete, however I feel like everyone forgets about the Greco Roman heavyweight Aleksandr Karelin. In his 13 or so years of competing internationally he went 887-2 won 3 out of 4 golds at the Olympics and his final loss was 0-1was due to a technical rule change from a few months before, the first point he’d given up in 6 YEARS. If that isn’t the most dominant athlete of all time then I don’t know what is.
My first thought too! He was so dominant that opponents occasionally just forfeited their matches rather than risk injury.
I dont think anyone worth their salt forgets about Karelin.
She's not even the most dominant athlete in contemporary weightlifting, Lasha is way more dominant.
Let alone other sports ( ever heard like you said of Aleks Karelin, Teddy Riner, Bolt etc )
Just because she bloomed early and dominated for 3 years because there aren't many 150kg women doesn't mean she is the most dominant.
@@Miiiiiiightyit literally sorta does. bolt's dominance over blake/gatlin/gay was never as much as lww without tatiana.
@@eddyededwin Of course she is "dominating" without the opponent that was dominating her while wieghing 40kg less...
LWW = big fish in a extra shallow pond of athletes... ( Emily Campbell = +87 euro champ with a 17kg less total than Solfrid who is 45kg lighter xD )
Bolt has never been beaten, he is still holding WR... LWW couldn't even match Tatiana's record while weighing almost 1.5x en BW... WTF are you on man ?
Glad for this one. I remember mentioning her in another vid because she is just a terror. So far ahead that I don't think anyone legitimately competes with her, even Lasha has people who are close enough to him that a bad day can put him in 2nd.
She's basically Gor's weight.
You don't find men that big on every street's corner, let alone women.
She is a huge fish in a tiny pond
the most dominant olympian athlete ever is Alexander Karelin... just check the insane run of that man in the wikipedia I think he was like 10 year in a row without losing a single point
Yes! The guy was even participating in a strongman competition and came out as 8th. Insane!
Not disagreeing but the field for Super Heavy Weightlifters and Wrestlers (especially Greco-Roman) is so tiny where as the people that have ever competeted on some level in running or swimming is literally many millions and that makes Bolt and Phelps accomplishments much more impressive.
When she went down to hug her coach, it felt like she could easily crush him in her arms.
0:58 WHO IS THAT MAN, THAT MADE ME AUDIBLY REACT, EASILY THE MOST REDICULOUS SAVE IVE EVER SEEN
Very nice insight! Thanks a lot Seb!
On the last few lines of the video:
In an interview from 2019, Meng Suping said she'd retire sooner. Still, she was worried that, prior to Li Wenwen's international debut, team China would lose the edge in the women's superheavy category so she insisted on competing for one more year. So, on the one hand, Meng probably wouldn't be a factor for Li to lift heavier because Meng treated Li as her successor. On the other hand, Tatianna probably can force Li to lift the heaviest she can.
Li WenWen is one of my favorites of all time. She's definitely one of the best of all time.
advanced chemistry, lmao
This is an incredible weightlifter I'd never heard of. Thank you for exposing these athletes to us
Li won the Oly gold by 47kg! Higher margin than Lasha
Alexeev was at the top of the totem pole in the supers for a LONG time and he was never defeated, but fell victim to an injury. Even today years after his peak, his top CJ of 256 in a Russian national meet is a high bar for supers to exceed.
It's always a good day when Weightlifting House uploads a video! This was so insightful.
Get em girl
I love li wenwen I think she is so amazing and a real cutie pie as well.
Not Olympic sport but Hakuho former Yokuzuna in sumo wrestling won every single tournament for a decade plus. Extremely dominant in his sport
The goat of sumo. He’s faced the best and flat out dominated.
What? No he didn't, he won 45 championships which is by far a record but he never won every tournament of even a single calendar year in his entire career. Winning every single tournament of a calendar year in the modern sumo tournament system is so rare it's only been done once.
We shouldn't exaggerate his feats because he - is - the greatest sumo wrestler ever
Just by simple math, he has the most tournaments wins by a single rikishi at 45, next is Taiho at 32. Every year has 6 tournaments
If he won every tournament for a decade plus, he would be at like well over +60 tournament wins
It would be like watching Usain Bolt jogging the 100 metres and winning
so, we're not even gonna mention Hakuho, huh? ridiculous
ALEXANDER KARELIN.
If the title was, The most aesthetic weighlifter... Ever?
the answer would be, Chen Lijun, for sure for me.
What happened to the upload from +87kg W from the worlds 2023?
Notification squad…assemble!
li wen wen against Tatiana Kashirina best numbers in 2012, 155 snatch and 193 clean and jerk. what about that, who is the best!. Li wen wen is the most dominant liftet in his category because of lack of good lifters in that category but she's not yet the best super heavy weight female ever
Usain Bolt, because the 100 m is the event with the most prestige and the hardest competition at the olympics. Everyone runs 100m once in his life. Swimming has so many events at the olympics, but if you lose the most relevant event as Phelps did against Thorpe, you can´t be the most dominant athlete.
Li Wenwen is not the most dominate weightlifter in her class of all time. Tatiana Kashirina at her peak was 13 kg better in the total. I think if Li Wenwen were to gain 30 kg she could break Tatiana records. If Solfrid Koanda were to gain 30 kg by going on the all you can eat midnight cake diet popularized by Hojamuhammet Toychyyev the super from Turkmenistan she could make the competition exciting.
13 kg better while being 50 kg lighter xD
Not even the most dominant in her own weight class let alone most dominant weightlifter ( and I don't even mention other sports ) ... 100% clickbait title
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Watching Lasha in 2017 it's amazing how much weight he's gained compared to how much he's added to his total.
Law of diminishing returns
If she had kid with Lasha, probably their son will be 6'10 500 lbs Hulk
Easily Al Oerter
Lasha or Naim
Or Yuryk Vardanyan, or Khaki, or Dimas, or Alexeyev and I could go on and on and on
Li Wenwen won 2019 only because the other supers were not at their best.
Unfortunately the arguments for her being the most dominant have a massive flaw. There's been a lifter who did noticeably more in both lifts and the total. Neither of them are natural, and the drug testing of Chinese athletes in particular can hardly be taken seriously.
Exactly, this video is a fucking joke
Yep, " most dominant athlete ever " yet she can't even come close to Kashirina's WR while weighing 50kg more... What a joke
lol. unless ur caught u have to give them the benefit of the doubt. not perfect but it is what it is. cant just assume everyones on the same gear 😂
El poder femenino, en su maxima exprecion, no importa la nacionalidad, y sobre el mismo tema, me pregunto el porque lo yankees ( que se sepa), nunca han presentado a un levantador olimpico, con el mismo o mejor que : rusos, bulgaros, chinos ( lo mas granado de este gran deporte).
She's 200% dope so no point really
Please more mini docs like this. Especially older eras for newer fans and lifters like me
Bro i been watchin li wen wen since last year I knew she was gonna be great at tokyo. Also cannot wait to see whats in store for her now as an Olympic champion hopefully she keeps training and achieving more on the platforms since more lifters now will try to beat her record so she will have some great rivals in the near future💯
Alexeev set 80 world records and won numerous championships and would be my personal pick as weightlifting's most dominant ever.
0:57 damn that save...
"Built cushion of dominance " haha, how apropos.
Most dominant but yet she still hasn't touched Kashirina's, who weighed 45kg less, WR...
This bad habit to reset record every now and then, by restructuring the weight classes, and act as if they never existed is really getting old in WL.
She's nowhere near as dominant as Lasha either ( just to name someone who is still active , let alone all time greats )
love how everyone is triggered by a fun narrative building video
@@genautelevishn5999 Maybe because it's 50% clickbait 50% straight lie ..?
I don't need respectable channels to use snake oil influencers tricks for me to watch their videos.
@@Miiiiiiighty every single narrative in sports has a little mysticism in it
Nice. However, Kashirina has lifted more. No one has lifted as much as Lasha, so he's the GOAT. With that said, I'm a big fan of Li Wenwen. I think she'll surpass Kashirina's records in the future.
Illin Ilia before 2015 will be the most dominant oly lifter in my opinion. Winning the most crowded men categories 85 - 94 - 105 is way more difficult than women supers.
its pretty dishonoring to compare ilya with these newbies anyway.
@@Roham4eva Exactly, it's really a millenial/genZ thing to rewrite history, just in the lights of the last 2 years...
Even Ilya isn't the greatest of all time, just the greatest generational talent ( for a decade around 2005-2015) like Lu was after him and Nasar will probably be
Li Wen Wen ? LOL
@@Miiiiiiighty yeah ofc. i mean, im pretty biased towards ilya since hes my fav lifter, but the most dominant is ofc the goat naim. im looking for a good weightlifter in the most dominant weightlifter of all time. this chinese chicks technique just makes me repulse.
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Finally you got a sponsor! If they could ship to rest of Eu that would be amazing!
her category is +87 and she is double that. this is just beyond stupid. these categories are making this sport be an absolute joke.
it clearly says +87. Would you rather have categories such as +97 and +017.. no that is of course even worse
You can said that to men division too.. lasha is 183kg in 109+ division.. Almost double too
Teddy Riner. Thank you bye
Good one king!
I feel you wanted to get clicks with this title. By no means the most dominant athlete. And please save the cost comparisons for countries to ‚fund‘ a gold medal. Do you think it costs 5 Million $ for Cuba to form a gold medal athlete? Towards the end you lost the story, started to mix things up. Other than this video, good content and channel in general.
200% clickbait title.
She isn't even the most dominant in her weight class, let alone women WL, let alone WL and I won't even mention other sports ( Karelin, Teddy Riner, Bolt, Bubka, Javier Sottomayor, Jonathan Edwards, Yuriy Sedykh who still has the hammer throw WR by 3meters ( 5%) almost 40 years later, Uwe Hohn who was responsible for the javelin being modified because he threw way past 100 meters consistently, Ryan Crouser and the list goes on and on and on 🤣🤷♂
Dominance means something different to me. It’s about competition and longevity, also, at least in weightlifting. Otherwise, lifters with few/one off performances like Lovchev or Aramnau would be mentioned. Although obviously impressive, Wen hasn’t matched the lifts of Kashirina. And she hasn’t been through the Olympic cycles of say a Lasha, never mind a Dimas. Side by side, Lasha is clearly more dominant, having set the all time historical record. Having lesser competition is not the greatest yardstick of performance imo.
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Exactly, you have to have a decent timespan or it doesn't mean shyte.
If a one or two hit wonder was the most dominant just because they absolutely crushed their competition once or twice it wouldn't make sense.
Just a current gen Z thing to think 1 or 2 years of dominance is an " era " xD
its definetly ryan crouser from shotput event in track and field, look up the top throws in history, he owns them all.
I have no doubt Tatiana Kashirina is the strongest ever, just think that when she was 23 as li wen wen snatched 155 and c&j 193 kg very easily.
Di Seb once offer to give the Chinese team a lift back to the hotel and didn’t realise li was li wenwen 😢
Sun YungJie and Li Yan... Li Yan is still a teenager, if not mistaken, not yet 18
Amazing
Kerlin
Nice story, but respectfully, this lifter is hardly the most dominate of all time, let alone the most dominate Olympian across all sports.
In weightlifting, your introductory video clips of the great weightlifters past and present all far exceed this person’s accomplishments in my view.
The definition of dominant (in this video) is the difference between an athlete and their closest competitors. By this definition she is the most dominant. I agree with you that in terms of accomplishments there are definitely more successful weightlifters.
Fair enough.
@@WeightliftingHouse You are not responsible for your level of opposition though. Women olympic WL is a young sport and there are physical reason why she has no competitor ... She is basically Gor's weight... You don't find 150kg men around every corner, let alone women...
Basically a huge fish in a infinitesimal pond
Bo Jackson could have been the most dominant athlete ever. Don’t think it’s really close, either.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
Bo was definitely one of the most athletic though, but most dominant ...? He definitely wasn't he could he have ? We'll never now because there are many other parameters for a great career than just being athletic.
But What is a Woman?
Why do I still like kasharina more? 😂