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I noticed that in the picture of old Charlie the man sitting on his head has his knee almost even with the top of Charlie's head so his head is almost as tall as his lower leg foot to knee vertical,and the other was about 50% smaller but I believe this croc had just barely reached his full length and if given a fee more decades to grow would've bulked up significantly and had a wider and taller head. He basically was another old Charlie had he lived another 20 years
One major problem: The hunter and his wife would not be able to pull a 20' croc up onto the shore like that. A 20' croc typically weighs around 1000 kg (1 tonne.) Even 6-8 young men would struggle to move a 20-footer more than a few metres.
It’s incredibly sad to see these monster size crocodiles dead. The story of old Charlie was extremely sad. He was very old crocodile who had been caught in human fishing nets before. Unfortunately the nets he was caught in this time were humans who would kill him
Whats really sad is that Charlie wasn't aggressive at all. He never tried to hurt anyone even though he easily could. He simply waited patently for human help and poachers repaid his trust and docility with death
Jeez the projecting of human emotions onto cold-blooded killing machines is off the charts with some of you. Everything you are saying is projection. It’s ridiculous.
@@kyleconnor2759 some of us are cold-blooded killing machines, too. Even moreso than crocs if you ask me. Are you trying to justify the killing of innocent crocs by these poachers? Why? As silly as it sounds, not all crocs are trouble-makers, you know. And not all humans are poachers. While some crocs are notorious for being man-eater, not all of them are. At least, while they have the will to eat humans, they haven't eat one, yet. No human lives is taken. And yet, these crocs need to replace it with their lives just because they are potentially dangerous to humans? Oh so, all macropredators need to be killed then, going off by that logic, which is obviously fucked up. And some of these individuals are hunted for "trophies", for trophies! That alone is already pointing on just how selfish some people are, and you're justifying them? Animals have the right to live too. They do know compassion and gratitude as well. Have you never heard of Pocho the croc and/or Riska the croc? They live peacefully with the person that saved their lives, really. I'm not saying that all humans are like those selfish poachers, but justifying some murder acts based off the stereotypes of the murdered is off the chart for me. That's like trying to justify killing all men, just because some of them are bad
@@aliakbarmaliki3156I’ve seen probably 99% of the croc videos out there. I’m familiar. My contention is way too many of you project emotions onto these animals as you would for a dog or for an animal that has the capacity to reciprocate that emotion including love. Crocodiles quite literally do not have that capacity. They are more than capable (obviously) and they win more than a fair share of battles against humans. There are still villages where 2 people a week average are taken by crocs. They are monsters. I admire and have great respect for them, but no I don’t feel bad when someone kills one. And I think it’s ridiculous to worry about the mistreatment of crocodiles when they kill humans all the time. They study and stalk and eat people frequently. They are calculating killers. If a trophy hunter wants a croc, he or she is risking their life in a very real way to do so. They could easily be killed. Humans win some, crocs win some. I’m not justifying anything off of stereotypes haha. That this is some kind of retribution for ‘bad’ crocs. Honestly wtf are you even talking about with that. Again, more projection by you by comparing them to us. I’m saying I have no problem with crocs being hunted. They probably should reinstitute that in Australia for one. The croc population is out of control. Everything has a right to live. And everything has a right to ensure their survival. The fact that you call a croc ‘innocent’ speaks volumes about the projection you’re putting on this animal. It’s a beast. We kills beasts, they kill us. It’s how it’s always worked. Would you advocate to not cull the numbers of Burmese pythons in the Florida Everglades? 99.99999% of them have never harmed a human. You can make this same argument about crocs in certain areas. While they’re not invasive, they are a huge danger and their numbers should be controlled. You’re using one of the greatest anomalies in human history regarding human-animal interaction (poncho) as some sort of baseline of what our relationship to these creatures could be. You likely struggle with being objective about this just by virtue of that. You don’t bring up an anomaly like that to make an argument about the reality of the dynamic.
@@kyleconnor2759you seem to be very knowledgeable about the subject of monster crocs-I’m very intrigued by the subject as well-what are your thoughts on Gustave? Do you believe he is still alive? And have you done any research on the Potal croc (the one with the video of the huge eyes suspected to be a 25 footer)?
The women on the croc at 5:03 is the best guide to estimate the crocs length as they’re right on top of it. Using roughly the womens full leg to heel length as 1 m you only get 5 m total length. This is fair when compared to Lolong being measured looks far longer. The mounted skull is definitely the same croc, it only has 3 big lower teeth in all images.
Regardless of how long he was, he's beautiful and I hate that he was killed for sport. I really enjoyed this, you have a great presentation style and solid research. Thanks 🐊
There apparently has been recent evidence that has come to light that Bujang Senang may have been 20 feet instead of 19 plus feet since he was apparently missing part of his tail when he was captured and killed. Therfore, Bujang Senang may have displayed a more standard dcl for a large saltwater crocodile. As for the main crocodile in this video, I am surprised to only learn about him now! Thanks for sharing as usual!
I once saw a croc in far north Queensland that was at least 60ft... It was terrifying! It kept telling me to throw coins in the river, so I asked him how much did he need? And he said, "I need about tree fiddy." That's when I realised, it wasn't no crocodile, it was that God damned Loch Ness Monster.
Very skeptical of the Adams croc. The head alone looks way too small, especially if you compare it against the Paris museum croc skull, or the video of when Lolong was measured. Regarding Guinness, yeah they didn't verify anything at all back then. They essentially just collected "facts" from books, academic literature, newspaper, etc, and aggregated it in their book. The one good thing I'll say about them is that they did at least provide sources for most of them.
I saw a croc that size in a zoo just outside of Surfers Paradise in like 05. I don't think I could of been able to wrap my arms around his body where the tail start and the body ends. they said it was 1,800lbs
Even though these lovely old beasts were dead, I still found myself shouting at the TV, leave the poor thing alone, stretching his mouth till it’s cracking. What a sod.👎😡
Stfu both of you are being little pussies. It’s a reptile-a monstrous killing machine that would end any human in seconds if given the chance. The poor thing? It’s dead. Stop projecting human emotions onto these reptiles that can’t feel anything other than primal urges to kill, reproduce, survive etc They hunt us and we hunt them, that’s how it works. Stop being such a bitch. Oh the pwoor cwokodile! Stfu haha
1:27, im impressed how easily these 2 alone pulled up a potentially 17-21 feet long croc , like sure its in the water and that helps with the weight but i remember shooting a 7 feet gator and it took 3 of us to drag its corpse out my pond
There was an elderly and eccentric man called Crocodile Harry who lived in Coober Pedy, when i lived there 23 years ago. He was a local tourist attraction, and was frequently photographed with bevies of European backpacker girls in scanty clothing, in between visits from his homecare nurse. 😂 His dugout ( underground home) was lined with postcards and pictures from his heyday of crocodile hunting in the '70s , before it was banned. One photo showed him with one foot on the head of a monstrous croc. The crocs head alone was as long as he was tall, about 5 foot. ❤
Very clean looking croc, I would say it spent most of its life close to the sea or river mouth, which would explain why the beast is thinner than Charlie. Its diet would have been more water based, ie fish while Charlie was further up the river in the swampy brackish water and would have fed on buffalo, cows and pigs primarily, therefore a more stout head and fatter body.
That was very nice well thought out and in-depth. I like most of your stuff but for some reason this one was really well done what you’re gonna do next? Do you know do you know do you know?
Watching the Lolong documentary it took a whole village to move him on a cart with wheels. These to ladies just pulled him acrossed the water like it was nothing. I know the water helped buy Lolong looked double this croc thickness.
It's most likely because this crocodile is dead already when he was being pulled ashore. Lolong was still pretty much alive and actively resisting when the villagers attempt to drag him onto land
Lolong and Charlie were twice the bulk for sure. I noticed when the man was sitting on the head of Charlie the top of his head cam up almost even with his knee and the other ones head was quite shorter vertically. It's also possible that this croc had just barely reached his full length and would have bulked up and gained width in a few decades
Some of the bars and tackle shops in North Queensland have old photos and newspaper clippings from the early 20th century, showing truly massive crocs that appear to be well over 20 feet.
Yeah what a bunch of BS this claim is. At the end the Aussie says that it's estimated to weigh over a ton, but we see two women dragging it without much effort. Floating or not, anyone who has ever been around boats will tell you that a floating one ton object is not that easy to move. Really makes me question how the supposed crocodile expert didn't pick this up.
Great White Sharks in Tasmania in 60s were killed by Abalone and trawler fishermen usually by a powerhead with a .303 round, then dumped unceremoniously on the shore for kids to be amazed by.. not measured or weighed. Saw some huge monsters.
I agree, it very remote and there are dangerous tribes still in the area , it’s frightening to think the deeper you go into Papua New Guinea what other creatures you’d find but it’s common to find 6m male Salties in the Fly river.
one of the scariest critters on earth. enjoyed, nice job. if there are that many that have been caught, think of how many are probably that size and much larger that haven't. to use a quote from Neil deGrasse Tyson, "it's like taking a glass of water from the ocean and deducing there are no whales". i think the same applies here. a friend who worked as a chopper pilot on properties in North Queensland and in the Daintree said he had seen a large number of saltwater crocs he estimated to be a least 20 - 25 feet long at a conservative estimate.
Another method of measuring is the old fashioned 'cubit'. This is the length of an adult man's forearm from elbow to finger tip when laid flat on a surface. On average this is 18 inches. There are many instances in the movie where you could use the man's forearm instead of the woman's shoulders. Especially when he shows where the tail tip might have been indicating with his open hand. For the record I am 5' 11'' and my cubit is exactly 18 inches - comes in handy when you don't have a tape measure.
I’m not saying this croc wasn’t 20’ I’m just saying that if ever seen an 18 or 19’ then you can’t believe they grow any bigger . They are HUGE ALL OVER !!!
These are only the documented ones,there would no doubt be 20 plus footers up in the northern parts of remote Australia. Remember they have been a protected species for decades so the numbers have exploded.
I always wonder how big did these crocodiles or anacondas for example used to be a few hundred years ago? Maybe it was common back then for crocodiles to grow to 20 ft plus due to less people hunting them, more territory, and more food.
I could actually have the opposite effect too. There might have been more crocs, meaning more competition in the pecking order. Usually when this happens in a species, very few live long enough to get huge. But then again theyd have no other predators but themselves so who knows.
To the people whining about killing Crocs smh the population has drastically rebounded since they banned croc hunting many years ago. Ask NT folks of Australia
I am sure there is/ was a Scull and several photos of comparable lengths and width of Saltwater Crocks at the "OLD " Cooktown Museum which I think has closed ,I have no idea weather any of the "Old Museum " was Donated to the New Museum,I hope so have asked so far no one seems sure just. maybes ? I do remember photos of the Fly River with very large specimens !
@@osamanazzal4302 diving for abalone and crayfish there's not much choice. Can make you rich, or dead. Still, more die rockfishing... yet, if a tourist ignores the signs..
I watched the documentary on Lolong and the indigenous people there said they had seen one even bigger than Lolong at an estimated 30 foot the guy who seen it said it was as big as his houseboat which was 30 foot👍would like to know if there's any photos or video to back up this claim👍👍
So the ratio is based on head length to total length? Does it mean lower ratio means longer/larger skull to body ratio? The croc from the video looks small compared to the other giants
I believe it's a 20ftr , take the ladies leg stretched along its back, be easier to find out the ladies name n it wouldn't be too hard possibly find out her height
At this point I think it is important to do a full video specifically addressing the phenomenon of gigantism in reptiles and specifically crocodilians. Does it occur ? Is there documented proof ? Has there been any HONEST science covering the topic in published papers? What criteria would we use ? For example if a typical larger specimen of a person is 6.5 to 7 feet ( male) then a true giant would need to be 8 foot or over and is as expected extremely rare. The only strange aspect is that in humans the number of 8 foot specimens has dropped despite the population growth. Thanks.
I've looked into this 'record'. There's no way the croc is 6.15 m long. My best estimates are around 5 m, not even close to a record size. They were just hyping up the size to boost film sales. The best way to check this is indeed the still at around 5:20. Both women are on the croc perfectly in line with it. If you use the outstretched leg at about 1 m long, the croc is 4.9 m. A 170 cm woman has a 1 metre hip to heel length so this is a good estimate. If she's a bit smaller than 170 cm, the croc would be around 5 m. At 5:40, the croc is indeed longer than the car but since there's forced perspective involved (and in front of the car) it is a poor guide and shouldn't be used. Also all crocodile skins can be stretched.
@@gatorjake456 very good, I’m from Perth WA and have been interested in this record and looked at the video highlights of the croc. No way it looks Lolong size. If it’s in Perth I might be able to measure the DCL correctly. In the old Perth Museum (pre Covid) they had an old croc skull for the kids. I measured its DCL at 66 cm, but due to weathering I suspect it was 67 cm originally. Passed the info onto a croc expert who was very appreciative. The museum staff had no idea when it arrived but it was from many decades ago. It’s about the 10th biggest saltwater skull known! 🐊
If you're in a 4mtr tinnie and a 5mtr croc is watching you it is not fun, you shit! I live in Cardwell NQ. And there are plenty here, often seen from shore swimming in front of town and often unfortunately taking dog's, they have no fear and are a worry.
I took a screenshot of 5:03 and compared it to similar, lateral view of Lolong with 7 Men holding him down. Plain to see that this croc couldn't have been more than 15 feet or so in length.
I did a quick measure, assuming from the tip of her toes to her backside (lady posing on croc) would get about 15-17 ft feet using that measrement. I did the same measurement for me as a 6 ft tall man, I'm 46 inches that measurement. If hers is 36 the croc is 15 ft ( 5 times the length with tail credit) if hers is 38 the croc is 15 ft 10in. At 40 ( hers wouldn't be more) you get 16 ft 8 in
What if I tell you Bujang Senang was not 5.87m, but was actually a suspected 6.1m croc based on new evidence found by independent researchers researching photos of him? A group of independent researchers did a count of the tail spines and found he has only 13 tail spines indicating a few missing pieces as Cassius with a broken tail has 14 tail spines,the New Guinea Giant has 17 tail spines also with a broken tail and Lolong has 19 tail spines which a saltie with intact tail should have at 17-20 tail spines, George Craig also suspected him to be a 6m croc according to his grandson and disputed the given 5.87m TL. On a side note,have you manage to find out about Peter Reimers Croc that was ended in 1975? His TL was 16ft but with much of his tail missing it was suspected his real TL was 19ft making him ranked among the largest croc caught in Australia. I find it rather odd the existence of this particular croc has gone unnoticed despite his exceptional length
I came out of the animal bar on closing one night in Karumba and me and my mate decided to go up the Norman river in a tinny with a slab of VB and some winnie blues, pissed as farts we took off up the river, got upstream about a hour or two and somehow promptly lost the kill tag for the twist throttle, we had nothing to hold the kill swich out so had to take turns gobbing off the twist throttle and using our teeth to hold pull the switch open to keep the outboard going, was pretty sober by the time we got back to Karumba what with the vibrations of the outboard rattling through our jaws ! Young and stupid but was still funny especially when we found the plastic kill tag in the bottom of the tinny when we got back that morning, the old bic lighter didnt have enough lumens for our drunken eyes !LOL ( oh yeah, norman river has got plenty of salties in it )
your thought on the size of the croc being more then 20 feet based on the car is wrong,,, the croc is going to look longer then the car due to the angel of the picture, so if anything the croc would be at least 18 feet if you hold a camera down low of someone they will look taller then they are,,, if you hold the same camera up high above the same person they will now look shorter then they really are and by looking at the picture i would say the croc is about a foot or two away from the car
@@mrwilliams8108 There is no need to hunt animals for sport. Hunting for fun is wrong. And we humans have no right to complain about overpopulation. After all, our number exceeds the number of crocodiles by a long shot. Why kill the crocodile when you could just relocate him? How about you shut up?
@@jimeboyd3226 No, bujang senang (C. Porosus from the Sarawak river) which skull is considered 77 CM Measured officially to be the longest skull of modern day croc, the official length was estimated to be 5.86 Meter which is close to 20 feet
I really love your videos thanks for posting this but bujiang senang is not 5.88m rather bigger possibly around 6m Why do I saw this if you look closely some parts of bujiang senang tail is actually missing so it is possible he could have been 6m which would make it's skulls to total body length ratio for 1:7.8 which is not too far off from the 1:8 ratio used for large salties or Nile. Apparently the salty in the video is possibly has a Max size of 6.5m which actually seems a bit too high for me I bet it could but still 6.5m is bigger than lolong, old Charlie, fly river giant and almost on par with Kalia. I believe this specimen should be in the range of 5.5-6.2m ? Yes that's seems more realistic to me and this croc also seems to quite selender which is a bit weird but still I would not be completely shocked that this guy turns out to be 6.5m but un less someone measures it's skull until than we can only assume even after that we can eastimate lol but still a very good video
I am aware of the theory and potential estimated claim of Bujang Senang having an extra 20-25 cm to his length due to the tail tip. I’m going to contact the farm soon so I can get more information on this. Thank you for watching as always, hoping more information comes out about the Adam’s croc.
If the croc is really as big as they claim no way at 1:48 can two people just pull it out the water with such ease! When they pulled lowlong out it took the hole village!
In the short video, they did not pull the croc out of the water. They got it near the edge of the water, and the last photo appeared to show that the tide had ebbed and left the animal out of the water.
@@arvinsanolin3110 Yeah, I don't say that Lolong would be biggest ever, but facts are facts. And I dislike people who present speculation as facts. Like this Gustave, I've seen estimations from 5,5 meters to 6 meters what comes to him. But it hasn't been measured ever. And overall Nile crocodiles are slightly smaller than salties, even though not much.
All crocodile lovers It would b different if one got someone in ur family. They live to eat any living thing. Soooooo how about all those people who lose loved one's. To those. Man eaters
Never heard of a croc wandering into the person's living room to eat person. Most people I have heard of wandered into the croc's living room and got eaten. So, bad luck. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
@@AndrewFishmanits not stupid in parts of the world where ppl rely on the rivers for survival. Lots of poor tribes people in Africa get eaten/limbs removed from crocs. Once the offending croc takes a human, it learns to go after ppl again and again. In those cases, the tribesmen have to hunt the croc or call in a professional hunter to kill it.
@@John_Redcorn_ I have lived in places where crocs are very common. Like Far North Queensland and Solomon Islands. The closest to a lounge room I have heard of is a swimming pool in the backyard.
While it is fun to imagine the existence of such monsters, it is highly unlikely that any species of crocodilian is capable of growing much past fifteen feet. The fact that records of larger individuals are purely anecdotal reinforces this point. While there are captive individuals that approach twenty feet in length, they are all first-generation/F1 hybrids that were bred for this purpose (Yai, Lolong, and Gomek come to mind). Porosus x siamensis makes for a particularly robust offspring, often exceeding the size of either parent in a very abbreviated amount of time. Unfortunately, such hybrid vigor expresses itself only in the first generation, as subsequent generations revert back to one parent's traits...or the F1 is sterile altogether.
@@HappyRagingMatt Sounds as though you take anecdotal accounts as gospel. I used to as well, until I noticed just how much specimens shrink the moment you pull out a tape measure.
@@PhilipUnderwood-oy9tv Plenty of folks were probably sure that "Sweetheart" was over twenty feet. I'm sure that they were also disappointed when he was actually measured and fell quite a bit short of their expectations.
I think he’s in poor condition that croc , usually they are loads more bulkier , just look at Dominator , his head looks huge and Brutus looks bigger , I’ve seen bulkier 16 footers than the one in the vid, at 17 feet a Saltie can weigh a tonne Matt Wrights tri-pod is a tonne in weight and he’s 17.4 feet long. I think the one in the vid is 20 feet but in poor condition .
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Are u going to mention kyrs
This is why I enjoy the channel.
I noticed that in the picture of old Charlie the man sitting on his head has his knee almost even with the top of Charlie's head so his head is almost as tall as his lower leg foot to knee vertical,and the other was about 50% smaller but I believe this croc had just barely reached his full length and if given a fee more decades to grow would've bulked up significantly and had a wider and taller head. He basically was another old Charlie had he lived another 20 years
He isn't screaming or shouting or simply yapping. Here is a guy simply in love with crocs, and u have my respect brother. Keep up the good work my guy
You could get a DUI right now....
@@thomaskonradyjr1142what?
One major problem: The hunter and his wife would not be able to pull a 20' croc up onto the shore like that. A 20' croc typically weighs around 1000 kg (1 tonne.) Even 6-8 young men would struggle to move a 20-footer more than a few metres.
It’s incredibly sad to see these monster size crocodiles dead. The story of old Charlie was extremely sad. He was very old crocodile who had been caught in human fishing nets before. Unfortunately the nets he was caught in this time were humans who would kill him
Whats really sad is that Charlie wasn't aggressive at all. He never tried to hurt anyone even though he easily could. He simply waited patently for human help and poachers repaid his trust and docility with death
Jeez the projecting of human emotions onto cold-blooded killing machines is off the charts with some of you.
Everything you are saying is projection. It’s ridiculous.
@@kyleconnor2759 some of us are cold-blooded killing machines, too. Even moreso than crocs if you ask me. Are you trying to justify the killing of innocent crocs by these poachers? Why? As silly as it sounds, not all crocs are trouble-makers, you know. And not all humans are poachers. While some crocs are notorious for being man-eater, not all of them are. At least, while they have the will to eat humans, they haven't eat one, yet. No human lives is taken. And yet, these crocs need to replace it with their lives just because they are potentially dangerous to humans? Oh so, all macropredators need to be killed then, going off by that logic, which is obviously fucked up. And some of these individuals are hunted for "trophies", for trophies! That alone is already pointing on just how selfish some people are, and you're justifying them? Animals have the right to live too. They do know compassion and gratitude as well. Have you never heard of Pocho the croc and/or Riska the croc? They live peacefully with the person that saved their lives, really. I'm not saying that all humans are like those selfish poachers, but justifying some murder acts based off the stereotypes of the murdered is off the chart for me. That's like trying to justify killing all men, just because some of them are bad
@@aliakbarmaliki3156I’ve seen probably 99% of the croc videos out there. I’m familiar.
My contention is way too many of you project emotions onto these animals as you would for a dog or for an animal that has the capacity to reciprocate that emotion including love. Crocodiles quite literally do not have that capacity. They are more than capable (obviously) and they win more than a fair share of battles against humans. There are still villages where 2 people a week average are taken by crocs.
They are monsters. I admire and have great respect for them, but no I don’t feel bad when someone kills one. And I think it’s ridiculous to worry about the mistreatment of crocodiles when they kill humans all the time. They study and stalk and eat people frequently. They are calculating killers.
If a trophy hunter wants a croc, he or she is risking their life in a very real way to do so. They could easily be killed. Humans win some, crocs win some.
I’m not justifying anything off of stereotypes haha. That this is some kind of retribution for ‘bad’ crocs. Honestly wtf are you even talking about with that. Again, more projection by you by comparing them to us.
I’m saying I have no problem with crocs being hunted. They probably should reinstitute that in Australia for one. The croc population is out of control.
Everything has a right to live. And everything has a right to ensure their survival.
The fact that you call a croc ‘innocent’ speaks volumes about the projection you’re putting on this animal. It’s a beast. We kills beasts, they kill us. It’s how it’s always worked.
Would you advocate to not cull the numbers of Burmese pythons in the Florida Everglades? 99.99999% of them have never harmed a human. You can make this same argument about crocs in certain areas. While they’re not invasive, they are a huge danger and their numbers should be controlled.
You’re using one of the greatest anomalies in human history regarding human-animal interaction (poncho) as some sort of baseline of what our relationship to these creatures could be. You likely struggle with being objective about this just by virtue of that. You don’t bring up an anomaly like that to make an argument about the reality of the dynamic.
@@kyleconnor2759you seem to be very knowledgeable about the subject of monster crocs-I’m very intrigued by the subject as well-what are your thoughts on Gustave? Do you believe he is still alive? And have you done any research on the Potal croc (the one with the video of the huge eyes suspected to be a 25 footer)?
The women on the croc at 5:03 is the best guide to estimate the crocs length as they’re right on top of it. Using roughly the womens full leg to heel length as 1 m you only get 5 m total length. This is fair when compared to Lolong being measured looks far longer. The mounted skull is definitely the same croc, it only has 3 big lower teeth in all images.
They did a great job recording and measuring everything. Nice video.
Regardless of how long he was, he's beautiful and I hate that he was killed for sport.
I really enjoyed this, you have a great presentation style and solid research. Thanks 🐊
Northern Safari is a great travelogue, but Malcolm Douglas adventures are next level.
Malcolm had a big croc at Wyndham WA some years back,real scary bastard
There apparently has been recent evidence that has come to light that Bujang Senang may have been 20 feet instead of 19 plus feet since he was apparently missing part of his tail when he was captured and killed. Therfore, Bujang Senang may have displayed a more standard dcl for a large saltwater crocodile. As for the main crocodile in this video, I am surprised to only learn about him now! Thanks for sharing as usual!
I remember seeing Northern Safari as a kid. Adams toured with the movie and came our way some time back in the 60s.
I once saw a croc in far north Queensland that was at least 60ft... It was terrifying!
It kept telling me to throw coins in the river, so I asked him how much did he need? And he said, "I need about tree fiddy."
That's when I realised, it wasn't no crocodile, it was that God damned Loch Ness Monster.
Tree fiddy for a sucubus
Very skeptical of the Adams croc. The head alone looks way too small, especially if you compare it against the Paris museum croc skull, or the video of when Lolong was measured.
Regarding Guinness, yeah they didn't verify anything at all back then. They essentially just collected "facts" from books, academic literature, newspaper, etc, and aggregated it in their book. The one good thing I'll say about them is that they did at least provide sources for most of them.
I saw a croc that size in a zoo just outside of Surfers Paradise in like 05. I don't think I could of been able to wrap my arms around his body where the tail start and the body ends. they said it was 1,800lbs
Even though these lovely old beasts were dead, I still found myself shouting at the TV, leave the poor thing alone, stretching his mouth till it’s cracking. What a sod.👎😡
Exactly. This channel blows goats
Stfu both of you are being little pussies. It’s a reptile-a monstrous killing machine that would end any human in seconds if given the chance.
The poor thing? It’s dead. Stop projecting human emotions onto these reptiles that can’t feel anything other than primal urges to kill, reproduce, survive etc
They hunt us and we hunt them, that’s how it works. Stop being such a bitch.
Oh the pwoor cwokodile!
Stfu haha
@@kyleconnor2759 why is bro even this mad 💀
@@thomaskonradyjr1142 poor little you , get the box of tissues 🥱🙄
@@bestcrazyboy8487 oh look! A keyboard crocodile opened it's cumcatcher
I saw Northern Safari at the local cinema as a kid on a school trip. It was awesome.
1:27, im impressed how easily these 2 alone pulled up a potentially 17-21 feet long croc , like sure its in the water and that helps with the weight but i remember shooting a 7 feet gator and it took 3 of us to drag its corpse out my pond
Mechanical advantage is your friend. There are numerous ways to 3-5x your own strength fairly quickly and easily
There was an elderly and eccentric man called Crocodile Harry who lived in Coober Pedy, when i lived there 23 years ago. He was a local tourist attraction, and was frequently photographed with bevies of European backpacker girls in scanty clothing, in between visits from his homecare nurse. 😂 His dugout ( underground home) was lined with postcards and pictures from his heyday of crocodile hunting in the '70s , before it was banned. One photo showed him with one foot on the head of a monstrous croc. The crocs head alone was as long as he was tall, about 5 foot. ❤
Yep a 20 foot job I seen it too
Jake we have the actual skull of "old charlie" at crocosaurus cove in darwin.
Very clean looking croc, I would say it spent most of its life close to the sea or river mouth, which would explain why the beast is thinner than Charlie. Its diet would have been more water based, ie fish while Charlie was further up the river in the swampy brackish water and would have fed on buffalo, cows and pigs primarily, therefore a more stout head and fatter body.
That was very nice well thought out and in-depth. I like most of your stuff but for some reason this one was really well done what you’re gonna do next? Do you know do you know do you know?
Watching the Lolong documentary it took a whole village to move him on a cart with wheels. These to ladies just pulled him acrossed the water like it was nothing. I know the water helped buy Lolong looked double this croc thickness.
It's most likely because this crocodile is dead already when he was being pulled ashore. Lolong was still pretty much alive and actively resisting when the villagers attempt to drag him onto land
Lolong and Charlie were twice the bulk for sure. I noticed when the man was sitting on the head of Charlie the top of his head cam up almost even with his knee and the other ones head was quite shorter vertically. It's also possible that this croc had just barely reached his full length and would have bulked up and gained width in a few decades
Imagine telling people you have a tiger then to find out its just a small dog😂
That croc looks regular
Your videos are so good.
Some of the bars and tackle shops in North Queensland have old photos and newspaper clippings from the early 20th century, showing truly massive crocs that appear to be well over 20 feet.
That's definitely not a 20 or 21 foot crocodile. No visual evidence of a tape measure, just word.
Yeah what a bunch of BS this claim is. At the end the Aussie says that it's estimated to weigh over a ton, but we see two women dragging it without much effort. Floating or not, anyone who has ever been around boats will tell you that a floating one ton object is not that easy to move. Really makes me question how the supposed crocodile expert didn't pick this up.
Great White Sharks in Tasmania in 60s were killed by Abalone and trawler fishermen usually by a powerhead with a .303 round, then dumped unceremoniously on the shore for kids to be amazed by.. not measured or weighed.
Saw some huge monsters.
Fly River salties are some of the largest seen but never really recorded. There are some beasts up there.
I agree, it very remote and there are dangerous tribes still in the area , it’s frightening to think the deeper you go into Papua New Guinea what other creatures you’d find but it’s common to find 6m male Salties in the Fly river.
one of the scariest critters on earth. enjoyed, nice job. if there are that many that have been caught, think of how many are probably that size and much larger that haven't. to use a quote from Neil deGrasse Tyson, "it's like taking a glass of water from the ocean and deducing there are no whales". i think the same applies here. a friend who worked as a chopper pilot on properties in North Queensland and in the Daintree said he had seen a large number of saltwater crocs he estimated to be a least 20 - 25 feet long at a conservative estimate.
Another method of measuring is the old fashioned 'cubit'. This is the length of an adult man's forearm from elbow to finger tip when laid flat on a surface. On average this is 18 inches. There are many instances in the movie where you could use the man's forearm instead of the woman's shoulders. Especially when he shows where the tail tip might have been indicating with his open hand.
For the record I am 5' 11'' and my cubit is exactly 18 inches - comes in handy when you don't have a tape measure.
I'm sitting in my 22ft RV, and it gave me goosebumps on how enormous they truly are..
Might want to look up and read about Krys the croc that was shot and killed in 1957 which measured 28 feet 4 inches
Have you seen the crocodile statue at Normanton Queensland
I’m not saying this croc wasn’t 20’ I’m just saying that if ever seen an 18 or 19’ then you can’t believe they grow any bigger . They are HUGE ALL OVER !!!
Imagine if the animal was not killed, it could have grown even bigger.
So what?
They were not culled, they were hunted!. That was stopped in the 70s. The have been protected ever since!
Ain't 20 ft
These are only the documented ones,there would no doubt be 20 plus footers up in the northern parts of remote Australia. Remember they have been a protected species for decades so the numbers have exploded.
I always wonder how big did these crocodiles or anacondas for example used to be a few hundred years ago? Maybe it was common back then for crocodiles to grow to 20 ft plus due to less people hunting them, more territory, and more food.
I could actually have the opposite effect too. There might have been more crocs, meaning more competition in the pecking order. Usually when this happens in a species, very few live long enough to get huge. But then again theyd have no other predators but themselves so who knows.
Chamo lake have scary 20 feet crocodile
not true.
@@c.augustedupin8860 Yes, it's true. Chamo Lake had the heaviest and strongest crocodiles in the world too.
@@zimbo5521 there's no proof as of now.
@@c.augustedupin8860 there is plenty of proof when logic is used.
@@zimbo5521 the biggest crocs ever cought are from Phillipines,Australia and papaya new genui.
To the people whining about killing Crocs smh the population has drastically rebounded since they banned croc hunting many years ago. Ask NT folks of Australia
Do one on the lake chamo crocodiles... They're huge...
I am sure there is/ was a Scull and several photos of comparable lengths and width of Saltwater Crocks at the "OLD " Cooktown Museum which I think has closed ,I have no idea weather any of the "Old Museum " was Donated to the New Museum,I hope so have asked so far no one seems sure just. maybes ? I do remember photos of the Fly River with very large specimens !
dominator measured over 20' a year ago, he;s still alive and still growing.
I am so annoyed that whenever, even now, a specimen animal is found it's killed and hung up
Between crocks and snakes sharks, at least they keep tourist numbers down. Still, ever lost a friend to one?
@@stuarthynes6136 Shouldn’t have gone into their territory.
@@osamanazzal4302 diving for abalone and crayfish there's not much choice. Can make you rich, or dead. Still, more die rockfishing... yet, if a tourist ignores the signs..
@@stuarthynes6136 True.
There's a picture of a croc in one of Thursday Island pubs ..bigger I'd say ..not sure if they measured it ..
I watched the documentary on Lolong and the indigenous people there said they had seen one even bigger than Lolong at an estimated 30 foot the guy who seen it said it was as big as his houseboat which was 30 foot👍would like to know if there's any photos or video to back up this claim👍👍
So the ratio is based on head length to total length? Does it mean lower ratio means longer/larger skull to body ratio? The croc from the video looks small compared to the other giants
I remember the documentary watching it as a kid
"Sweetheart" in the Darwin museum at 17 ft is bigger enough for me thanks, apparently used to attack tinnies !
Make gators in Florida look like babies.
There are records of gators bigger than any of these crocs - they just haven't had time to get big again after the species was almost wiped out.
there was a croc skin found in the major of Rockhamptons house that was caught early in the century that was way bigger than any of those
Can you judge a croc's length like you can in alligators My estimating the distance between the snout and the eyes
Bujang senang, denominator and Gustave
Telling y'all the true giant(s) are in the Philippines with eyes the size of Volkswagen Beetle headlights 💯
What part of the Philippines?
BS. Nothing on earth has an eye that big, save for a giant squid maybe.
IN COSTA RICA, HERE CROCS VERY BIG TOO.
Google 'Hear it roar, 3.9 m croc' the Guardian channel, trapped in Townsville recently. ❤
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Biggest crocodile ever was shot in the Pioneer River in Mackay ....😊
@ianlarcher8250😂🤣😂
Hes at least 18 1/2 ft, but I don’t think he’s over 20 ft. More like 19 ft maybe 19 1/2 ft
I believe it's a 20ftr , take the ladies leg stretched along its back, be easier to find out the ladies name n it wouldn't be too hard possibly find out her height
At this point I think it is important to do a full video specifically addressing the phenomenon of gigantism in reptiles and specifically crocodilians. Does it occur ? Is there documented proof ? Has there been any HONEST science covering the topic in published papers? What criteria would we use ? For example if a typical larger specimen of a person is 6.5 to 7 feet ( male) then a true giant would need to be 8 foot or over and is as expected extremely rare. The only strange aspect is that in humans the number of 8 foot specimens has dropped despite the population growth. Thanks.
I've looked into this 'record'. There's no way the croc is 6.15 m long. My best estimates are around 5 m, not even close to a record size. They were just hyping up the size to boost film sales. The best way to check this is indeed the still at around 5:20. Both women are on the croc perfectly in line with it. If you use the outstretched leg at about 1 m long, the croc is 4.9 m. A 170 cm woman has a 1 metre hip to heel length so this is a good estimate. If she's a bit smaller than 170 cm, the croc would be around 5 m. At 5:40, the croc is indeed longer than the car but since there's forced perspective involved (and in front of the car) it is a poor guide and shouldn't be used. Also all crocodile skins can be stretched.
@@RustyTreeMan I have gotten a lead on who owns the head + skin. Hoping to get more up to date measurements soon to get this settled.
@@gatorjake456 very good, I’m from Perth WA and have been interested in this record and looked at the video highlights of the croc. No way it looks Lolong size. If it’s in Perth I might be able to measure the DCL correctly. In the old Perth Museum (pre Covid) they had an old croc skull for the kids. I measured its DCL at 66 cm, but due to weathering I suspect it was 67 cm originally. Passed the info onto a croc expert who was very appreciative. The museum staff had no idea when it arrived but it was from many decades ago. It’s about the 10th biggest saltwater skull known! 🐊
Things are damn pests. They will bight your lawn mower if they can.
I dream of one day seeing one of these giants with my own eyes
If you're in a 4mtr tinnie and a 5mtr croc is watching you it is not fun, you shit! I live in Cardwell NQ. And there are plenty here, often seen from shore swimming in front of town and often unfortunately taking dog's, they have no fear and are a worry.
@@markshark7521 I still want to see one
I took a screenshot of 5:03 and compared it to similar, lateral view of Lolong with 7 Men holding him down. Plain to see that this croc couldn't have been more than 15 feet or so in length.
Yeah I agree they don't look as if as lolong or Gustav
I did a quick measure, assuming from the tip of her toes to her backside (lady posing on croc) would get about 15-17 ft feet using that measrement. I did the same measurement for me as a 6 ft tall man, I'm 46 inches that measurement. If hers is 36 the croc is 15 ft ( 5 times the length with tail credit) if hers is 38 the croc is 15 ft 10in. At 40 ( hers wouldn't be more) you get 16 ft 8 in
Definitely not the biggest!
You can get lots of boots and luggage from one of these.
4meaters is big enough
I'm sure there's bigger crocs out there like the 1 in Philippines that they never were able to catch that was said to dwarf lolong
What if I tell you Bujang Senang was not 5.87m, but was actually a suspected 6.1m croc based on new evidence found by independent researchers researching photos of him? A group of independent researchers did a count of the tail spines and found he has only 13 tail spines indicating a few missing pieces as Cassius with a broken tail has 14 tail spines,the New Guinea Giant has 17 tail spines also with a broken tail and Lolong has 19 tail spines which a saltie with intact tail should have at 17-20 tail spines, George Craig also suspected him to be a 6m croc according to his grandson and disputed the given 5.87m TL.
On a side note,have you manage to find out about Peter Reimers Croc that was ended in 1975? His TL was 16ft but with much of his tail missing it was suspected his real TL was 19ft making him ranked among the largest croc caught in Australia. I find it rather odd the existence of this particular croc has gone unnoticed despite his exceptional length
Source?
So far longest reliable crocodile ever is Lolong. Not from Australia, but same species.
Old charlie genetics give aussie saltie some nice size for sure
That boat is 12 foot long.0:45 0:47 2:02
I came out of the animal bar on closing one night in Karumba and me and my mate decided to go up the Norman river in a tinny with a slab of VB and some winnie blues, pissed as farts we took off up the river, got upstream about a hour or two and somehow promptly lost the kill tag for the twist throttle, we had nothing to hold the kill swich out so had to take turns gobbing off the twist throttle and using our teeth to hold pull the switch open to keep the outboard going, was pretty sober by the time we got back to Karumba what with the vibrations of the outboard rattling through our jaws ! Young and stupid but was still funny especially when we found the plastic kill tag in the bottom of the tinny when we got back that morning, the old bic lighter didnt have enough lumens for our drunken eyes !LOL ( oh yeah, norman river has got plenty of salties in it )
your thought on the size of the croc being more then 20 feet based on the car is wrong,,, the croc is going to look longer then the car due to the angel of the picture, so if anything the croc would be at least 18 feet
if you hold a camera down low of someone they will look taller then they are,,, if you hold the same camera up high above the same person they will now look shorter then they really are and by looking at the picture i would say the croc is about a foot or two away from the car
It's so disgusting that us humans kill animals for sport. 😢
Why? If it wasn't for hunting you would hit kill an animal everytime you drove your car due to overpopulation. Grow up.
@@mrwilliams8108 There is no need to hunt animals for sport. Hunting for fun is wrong. And we humans have no right to complain about overpopulation. After all, our number exceeds the number of crocodiles by a long shot. Why kill the crocodile when you could just relocate him? How about you shut up?
Matt wrights tripod looks a lot bigger than the supposed 6.5m croc here .
And Cassius too
Tripod's previous owner Rob Bredl nearly lost a hand to Tripod. Rob said Tripod is 4.2 to 4.5 m. He also said people over exaggerate alot.
That's at Crocodile that was caught in the Philippines a few years back that died right away
Uh no, that was lolong🤪
They didn’t take care of it properly
I feel like at 20ft it would be a lot girthier and a larger head, hard to say though
The head should be between 70-75 cm long , at least
@@jimeboyd3226 No, bujang senang (C. Porosus from the Sarawak river) which skull is considered 77 CM Measured officially to be the longest skull of modern day croc, the official length was estimated to be 5.86 Meter which is close to 20 feet
Good thing is that lolong is like 70 CM for his skull then it is possible
Krys,, Normanton Australia Far North Western Queensland
I really love your videos thanks for posting this but bujiang senang is not 5.88m rather bigger possibly around 6m Why do I saw this if you look closely some parts of bujiang senang tail is actually missing so it is possible he could have been 6m which would make it's skulls to total body length ratio for 1:7.8 which is not too far off from the 1:8 ratio used for large salties or Nile. Apparently the salty in the video is possibly has a Max size of 6.5m which actually seems a bit too high for me I bet it could but still 6.5m is bigger than lolong, old Charlie, fly river giant and almost on par with Kalia. I believe this specimen should be in the range of 5.5-6.2m ? Yes that's seems more realistic to me and this croc also seems to quite selender which is a bit weird but still I would not be completely shocked that this guy turns out to be 6.5m but un less someone measures it's skull until than we can only assume even after that we can eastimate lol but still a very good video
I am aware of the theory and potential estimated claim of Bujang Senang having an extra 20-25 cm to his length due to the tail tip. I’m going to contact the farm soon so I can get more information on this. Thank you for watching as always, hoping more information comes out about the Adam’s croc.
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What about sweat hart
Sweat hart? You mean sweet heart?
Sweetheart was 5.1m
I would say a 10 ft crocodile would. b. a monster also. And any big crocodile comein after you is a monster
Comein?
If the croc is really as big as they claim no way at 1:48 can two people just pull it out the water with such ease!
When they pulled lowlong out it took the hole village!
Agree, a 20 foot croc has got to weigh around one ton
In the short video, they did not pull the croc out of the water. They got it near the edge of the water, and the last photo appeared to show that the tide had ebbed and left the animal out of the water.
Lake Chamo = Heaviest and strongest crocodiles on earth.
Where is this?
@@snoutysnouterson Lake Chamo is in Ethiopia.
Gustave, a Nile croc, is credibly estimated at 20 foot plus...
He's not "credibly" anything, he's never been measured
@@ironman4life89 hes bigger than any other i have seen, by 2-3 feet
23-25 i would guess
Every crocodile video we gotta here about exaggerated Gustave size.
@@GreatWhite7Well, case closed then. Some random internet guy guesses 23-25 feet.
The crocs are getting bigger again....one over 3 m lived in the Townsville marina for 7 months before it could trapped and relocated, bugger that 😂😂😂
Hi
Gustave is bigger than lolong and the two other guys 🔥🔥🔥
But hes not a Salty.
There is no proof whatsoever for that claim. Lolong is biggest reliable crocodile ever. Everything else is fanboy talk/speculation at best.
Facts !!! @@FBugle
@@arvinsanolin3110 Yeah, I don't say that Lolong would be biggest ever, but facts are facts. And I dislike people who present speculation as facts. Like this Gustave, I've seen estimations from 5,5 meters to 6 meters what comes to him. But it hasn't been measured ever. And overall Nile crocodiles are slightly smaller than salties, even though not much.
All crocodile lovers
It would b different if one got someone in ur family. They live to eat any living thing. Soooooo how about all those people who lose loved one's. To those. Man eaters
Never heard of a croc wandering into the person's living room to eat person. Most people I have heard of wandered into the croc's living room and got eaten. So, bad luck. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You seem a little nutty.
@@AndrewFishmanits not stupid in parts of the world where ppl rely on the rivers for survival. Lots of poor tribes people in Africa get eaten/limbs removed from crocs. Once the offending croc takes a human, it learns to go after ppl again and again. In those cases, the tribesmen have to hunt the croc or call in a professional hunter to kill it.
@@John_Redcorn_ I have lived in places where crocs are very common. Like Far North Queensland and Solomon Islands. The closest to a lounge room I have heard of is a swimming pool in the backyard.
@@John_Redcorn_ Hunting for sport is messed up. However, hunting for food or self defense is a different story.
While it is fun to imagine the existence of such monsters, it is highly unlikely that any species of crocodilian is capable of growing much past fifteen feet. The fact that records of larger individuals are purely anecdotal reinforces this point. While there are captive individuals that approach twenty feet in length, they are all first-generation/F1 hybrids that were bred for this purpose (Yai, Lolong, and Gomek come to mind). Porosus x siamensis makes for a particularly robust offspring, often exceeding the size of either parent in a very abbreviated amount of time. Unfortunately, such hybrid vigor expresses itself only in the first generation, as subsequent generations revert back to one parent's traits...or the F1 is sterile altogether.
😂 your lack of time in the lowest parts of NQ let alone NT Shows mate.
@@HappyRagingMatt Sounds as though you take anecdotal accounts as gospel. I used to as well, until I noticed just how much specimens shrink the moment you pull out a tape measure.
Pretty sure sweetheart was over 20 ft. Stood a metre tall
Lived in Darwin a few years back
@@PhilipUnderwood-oy9tv Plenty of folks were probably sure that "Sweetheart" was over twenty feet. I'm sure that they were also disappointed when he was actually measured and fell quite a bit short of their expectations.
I think he’s in poor condition that croc , usually they are loads more bulkier , just look at Dominator , his head looks huge and Brutus looks bigger , I’ve seen bulkier 16 footers than the one in the vid, at 17 feet a Saltie can weigh a tonne Matt Wrights tri-pod is a tonne in weight and he’s 17.4 feet long. I think the one in the vid is 20 feet but in poor condition .