Magnetic induction heating with infrared camera | Magnetic Games
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2023
- With this magnetic induction experiment I heated 2 liters of water from 13 to 30 degrees in 7:10 minutes with a consumption of 0.11 kWh. It is not a very efficient system for heating water, but it is interesting to see, with thermographic video footage, how the heat is generated and moved with this type of magnetic induction system.
Thanks to supermagnete.com for providing me with free magnets. Here are the magnets used in this experiment.
S-20-03-N sumag.net/s-20-03-n-x01
S-20-10-N sumag.net/s-20-10-n
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That's how I always warm up my coffee.
👍👍👍 😃 Much better than I expected, and definitely interesting to see! Fun demonstration, thanks! 😎✌️
Here here I saw some other ding dong try to use a speaker magnet going the wrong direction we can't all be smart or nobody would be smart
Was nice to see!!!😮
Hej, policzyłem sprawność tego urządzenia. 0.11kWh = 396 000 J. Aby ogrzać 2 kg wody o 17 K potrzeba : 2kg x4189,9 J x 17 K = 142456,6 J; sprawność wynosi tylko 35,9 % - czyli bardzo mało. ps. 4189,9 ciepło właściwe wody.
i don’t know why but i’m still obsessed with magnets
Because they are the real magic of our universe (and electricity 😁)
🧲
Magnets are fascinating
Everyone always makes fun of ICP for the line "f'n magnets, how do they work?", which I always thought was unfair, because the best answer I've seen is "magnets work because they do, just like gravity" and that's totally not a satisfying answer
Because your mind subconsciously knows they are conducting a variation of aether energy which flows from the universe to our planets core and back simeautanously
Next video: magnetic induction steam engine :)
Everyone knows that would result in perpetual motion!
Thank you for sharing your experiment.
Holy! This is so cool! I'll try it with my p2pro thermal too. Hope for a success.
People before the invection of the microwave:
Looks like a nice safe, do-at-home experiment
Громкий чайник! Спасибо за эксперимент.
MORE OF THIS. MORE OF THIS. MORE OF THIS.
WEIRD!
A basic wind turbine* + gearbox + that device = warm water for free :D
(*Maybe even as basic as the ones you see in old western movies)
You can do one better. Paint the copper tubing jet black and leave it out in the sun. Then the only moving part is the water pump. A very old method of solar water heating
The motor use electricity to run .
@@user-ki4jh6sn7f But it does not HAVE to use electricity, it can be wind-powered and use a gearbox to get more speed, or something like that.
No power required.
Yeh that's what I m thinking free energy
You can directly transfer the mechanical energy of a windmill to water - and it will heat up.
At polar stations, I heard, they did this: a windmill (2 halves of an iron barrel), the axis goes through the roof into the room, at the end of the axis the blades are immersed in a barrel of water.
Mechanical energy always eventually turns into thermal energy with an efficiency of 100%...
Induction heating is satysfying
Seeing how the bent plastic tubing straightens itself into the original form is fantastic! It almost makes the IR camera obsolete. Love the video!
The application of this method of induction heating is endless. Thanks for sharing this video
Yes BUT! How much does it cost in electricity to make it work? Is it cost effective?
endlessly useless yeah, with an efficiency of probably 10% at best.
@@lo2740 could be useful as a secondary system attatched to devices that are used to spin anyway, as its next to free if you consider it this way
Nice and interesting stuff - result: You produced only 142,46 kJ (Q=m*c*dT) with your shown 0.11 kWh input - means got 36% efficiency. With an immersion heater you will get maybe 95% ......
Thanks for the calculation, I know it's not an efficient system but the purpose of the video is to show how heat moves
@@MagneticGamesIT maybe you could try again with more coils in the coper to see if you can get more transfer per rotation? Or maybe the surface would help to.... It would also be further away from the magnetics
Efficiency could be brought up substantially by running multiple coil turns, tweaking the motor RPMs to find a closer resonant frequency and adding insulation
@@gunfighterzero эффективность можно повысить если напрямую через трубку медную ток пускать , без магнита и двигателя
А так это просто для школьников , для курса физики . Баловство .
Если истраченную мотором электроэнергию просто к кипятильнику просоединить, то выход тепла был бы больше... Ну, а так - хороший школьный опыт по демонстрации токов Фуко..
А вообще, сначалс я думал, что в итоге будет продемонстрирована работа магнетрона в атмосфере...
Man könnte aber die Rotation auch durch eine Windmühle oder ein Wasserrad erzeugen - oder mit einem umgebauten Fahrrad.
Zic Zac your copper pipe over your magnets
My coffee maker is making the exact same noise .
Wow, this is awesome! 👍I'm going to try it with my P2 Pro thermal camera.
With this , and a bit of tinkering , if you were good at decent solder joints .
Had good knowledge of solar power + battery bank.
You could make a decent , sufficient ,central heating system for a garage workshop or alike !!
Extraordinary👍👍👍
Interesting demonstration!
Se o aquecedor quebrar já tem a gambiarra. Like
Эксперимент отличный, но результат не очень. Законы сохранения и трансформации энергии никто не отменял. Тот же и лучший результат получился бы с использованием 100w Тэна.
Если использовать вращение не от мотора, а от мельничного колеса, к примеру, или от ветряка - тогда будет "бесплатный" нагрев
@@alexthesage да, но если вращать мельницей обычный генератор, то грель гораздо проще. Но эксперимент как теоретический - хороший!
Водку продать, а деньги пропить. Эффект тот же))
фишка в том что по виду движок киловатта полтора-два, пусть через частотник он и не в номинале, но откуда 110 Вт если там явно видно бьіло нагрузку больше пол кило? там ети 100 Вт только его помпа берет, да плюс потери в частотнике, плюс на движок еще, в реале у кипятильника кпд повьіше будет
@@user-lh2dk1vx9t
Да, у кипятильника КПД=100%
That yellow glowing opaque liquid looks delicious!
Итого : сожрано 4кВт электричества, море денег на магниты. Результат : разогрет тазик воды 😎
Ага, ещё и всего до 30°С
а пар отткуда ....из жо ......ы ???😂
La termocamera del cellulare è veramente una figata !
Hey strap this wheel onto an existing hydroelectric system to heat the stream, heat water from the house, maybe keep the unit from freezing in winter?
Добыча энергии из магнитов )))
Они дорогие и разряжаются потихоньку )
How about making three disks and using larger copper pipe with a thicker wall thickness to get more heat output into the water itself. This I believe has some major promise for sure. Will you be making a newer version Sir ?? I like the video too. 😀😀😀😀😀
Помпа тоже поднимает температуру воды
Продать водку, а деньги пропить. Эффект тот же))
build a pipe pancake coil with water in it and then spin it counterclockwise to the magnets :D hahaha
:D
Brilliant and most efficient way to WASTE POWER. Mission accomplished.
Well done.
my purpose is to show how heat moves
@@MagneticGamesIT yeah. Heat always moves from hot side to cold side.
Take a cold iron plate, place fire below it and open your thermal camera. That will show how heat moves. So much of magnet and big motor was not required to prove the concept😂
I mean you gotta admit it was a cool video to watch. You don't need to prove you know a lot about the subject by bashing a video someone else made. Of course it's probably not the most efficient, but if we only filmed the absolute best/efficient way to do things, 99.99999% of youtube would cease to exist. Anyway, how would you make it more efficient? Or what method would you use to heat water as economically as possible? I'm looking for ways to help my sister heat her pool. She doesn't have a heater and even if she did, those things are expensive to run and decently slow, so we challenged ourselves to get creative.
Not an efficient heater is it ?😂
Next step on water heaters, just brushless motor and you are good to go.
Way cool!!
The changing magnetic field create ad current in Cooper coil and this ad current create it's own but opposite field in the results its create heat in coil
Sehr gut👍
Genial !!
Для популяризации этой темы необходимо рассказывать "что к чему, для чего и что из этого"
Всё очень просто, непочему и низачем. Медная трубка нагревается постояными магнитами за счёт вращения, вместо ефективного магного поля за счёт електричества. Что делает первое нах не эфективным.
You should try to build this device with a 50-liter water heater and a bypass and see if the performance is better than a water heater with its original heating element.
We know already that this is worse than a simple electric heater, because the heater has an efficiency of 100% (or very close to 100%), and the eddy current heater loses some energy by heating up the motor and producing annoying noises.
The calcul is done on a comment above. Poor eficiency but if the rotation come from free energy you don't care
Magnets should be in direction changed order. That provide more efficiency.
Thanks!
So technically you could warm water by hand(or with your legs if using some sort of bicycle system) if you removed the motor, that could be interesting I guess
That must be good setup for off grid house/cabin.
You don't need magnets. A paddle will turn your energy to heat
Yes, but you are better off just making having a brake slowing a spinning disk , also an average human can do 300 watts, and heating water us painful due to its high thermal capacity
@@microwavetransformer6378 anything that can transform a quick workout into something, it doesn't have to be boiling water imo
get an exercise bike
Am I the only one concerned about the water squirting at the uncovered outlets?
yup 😁
World is moving and thinking towards conservation of energy, and here is this guy wasting it, and you are worried about water getting into the terminals 😂
Not concerned at all. I felt quite safe watching this from the other side of the planet.
What a nerd
Yes. And no one gives a s--t about you either.
I'm confused,
do we say, That's Cool!
Or That's Hot!!
You can say it's awesome 😎
Very smart work
Looks like he's holding lava at the end due to the infrared lol
Excelent
you need to find the reverse process, how to use the low potential heat of the working fluid and get electricity.
Steam engine.
Superheated steam engine = overunity.
To op comment , we have them already , they are used in mini fridges .
To the one who put over unity ... what witch craft are you following .
Nothing is free , everything has a cost , the sun is a mere nuclear power house , money is an illusion that we adopted, to measure society and control people .
Solar, is a conversion of light or heat ,dependant on system , to electric ,or conversion again to steam ,to spin turbines ..
Each state of change there is energy loss.
Just writing this cost me energy, from my resources I ate previous, or body fat .
To the money for the electric in my phone .
Everything cost something , and you cannot get out more than what's put in , as at some point , it will exhaust itself .
Me gusta, aunque ya me imagino cuándo llegue el recibo de luz... 😂
Сделай то же самое, но вытяни сначала насос из ванны. ))))))
can be applied to electric vehicles in cold climates for heating
what goes up comes down, in this case, what goes in comes out , its simple physics , the laws
a stream of water can rotate a disc and this can heat the water for personal use, off grid.
Ok felicitări ❤❤❤❤
Resistence is Very more eficiente for hot😊
Fantastic, except you need a better thermometer
Супер технологии молодец ❤❤❤❤❤
From where did you buy the TUBES and water PUMP?
what is the Power ofthePumo
Un campo magnético rotatorio o oscilante, por la ley de inducción electromagnética, induce una corriente, en este caso por el cobre, por el que circula un agua que calienta; calienta el cobre por efecto Joule, E=R.I^2, la energía va como el cuadrado de la corriente, por lo que es un método muy eficiente y bueno de calentar el agua, con las matemáticas sobre la mesa.
Whenever I think about magnets it reminds me of that ICP song, "Miracles":
"Magnets, how the f*ck do those work?"
😂😂😂
you can buy a in line heater that you plug in to the wall ? it would cost less than the plate magnets copper pipe and generator
eddy current make it hot, is it ?
Do know what the amps are for the same rpm with and without the copper tubing?
Разве медь , проводит магнитное поле ?
... сдесь эффект наводящейся самоиндукции
Is this related to the phenomenon of a magnet slowly dropping through a copper pipe? If you force the magnet through the pipe faster than it would normally fall, would it heat up the pipe?
Yes, kinetic energy is converted to heat energy. The motor is being slightly slowed (loaded) by this also.
Збс.
Если бы просто подержал посуду в руках, вода бы нагрелась быстрее.😂
might be a silly question but, is the time rate for heating affected by the power of the magnet? as in, if you have more powerful magnets, would you be able to heat up the water faster?
yes, but it is also influenced by the rotation speed
Yes
@@MagneticGamesITso it would be more efficient to increase the speed than change the magnet?
@@rihulfaakbar2261 maybe, but stronger magnets would require more power(torque) from motor for same rpm, so it will stay same ratio of energy for motor power and energy rise in water, btw electric motor has efficiency about 50%, so that is top you can get to heat up water on this way
@@MagneticGamesIT There is no load. You could have spun this with a much smaller motor. As in likely a 12vdc motor.
Электрочайник по затратам проще и кпд ниже.😊😚😚
This would make a great wind powered water heater for winter
Eh not so much, any time you convert energy you lose some due to inefficiency which is inherent in any system. Nothing is 100% efficient. Wind is too inconsistent to provide power directly, you need to use it to power a generator which is in turn used to charge a bank of batteries, which are what actually provides the power. So using wind for this, it would be MORE efficient to just use conventional heating coils to convert the electricity directly to heat, rather than turn it to kinetic energy and THEN heat, since more energy is lost.
If you used a hydro turbine though, especially one completely underwater that never freezes during the winter and provides steady, predictable energy, you probably COULD use that to directly turn a disc of magnets, to provide inductive heating via kinetic energy alone. No electricity involved.
or river powered!
@@adamb89how consistent does it need to be to just work though? Because adding a generator and batteries adds a LOT of complexity.
@@GoatZillaFor a fully mechanical solution that uses a rotating disc of magnets to produce heat, you would need 100% consistency. You could probably add a clutch or something to disengage the wheel, which would basically be your off switch. As long as the magnets are spinning, it'd produce heat through induction. Stop the spinning...no induction, no heat.
@@adamb89 Uh, "as long as the magnets are spinning" indicates it doesn't need 100% consistency.
Ohhh this is hot! 😁🔥
Marc ass Brownie
Nice!
You only use the top of the disk, if you use the back at the same time you can generate twice as much heat.
This is really interesting
You should use 2 alternators and using kinetic energy..
Warm water just along the way
Merci de m’avoir fait rire !!!
Comment une eau à 11/12° dans le tuyau en cuivre peut faire augmenter la t° de l’eau du bac à plus de 20° ?!! 😂😂😂
… et personne n’a relevé ce détail ?! 😂😂😂
You need to separate or put some insulation between coper pipe and holder to not touch directly each other. Pipe holder react like load because it is short connection.
It was also my tought at the begining, but then I asked myself what is the path of induced eddy currents. Magnets rotates along the pipe, so there is no change of magnetic flux crossing the area circled by a pipe. So eddy current is induced in the part of the pipe which is closed to the edges of the magnet, and those currents are moving along the pipe with a movement of the magnets. Imho 🙂
@@maciejc.617 YOU GOT IT. where are the eddy currents?
there arent any. what there is is tiny. the lenz reaction, miniscule. the I2R heating... nonexistent.
replace pipe with flat solid plate... THEN it works.
and the heating part in the conductor? well... that is 100% efficient. its resistive.
the power that the _motor_ consumes? thats about 60% efficient on average...
its only of any use if you have a free rotational source of power. in which case its actually quite handy. when done properly?
it actually solves a major issue with a current "cult" method of power generation.... harnessing ALL of it!
An interesting, but very inefficient method.
Achei a solução interessante para aplicação em energia eólica, para sistema de aquecimento de ambiente por serpentina, caso eu conclua e tenha o mínimo de eficiência, envio o link ou um vídeo, de um experimento com base no seu vídeo.
Cara, pensei a mesma coisa.
Interessante...Se puder manda link
Your setup whould work a lot better if you increased your surface area foot print to cover all the sweep area of the magnets.
Can you explain the science behind this in the description?
a very poor and innefficient application of Eddy current.
Great demo
Put a dozen hamsters on the motor and easy energy. Knd style
Intuitively I can't see this being more efficient than a resistive heating element. I would like to see a side by side comparison with the same wattage of heater and the water temperature being monitored over time.
this is not efficient the purpose is to show how the heat moves
In this video clip, was heated 2l water from 13°C to 30°C (temp rised with 17°C). Electric consumption was 0.11KWh.
With 4W resistor heater you can heat 1g water wit 1°C in 1 seconds.
Now wil find wat power need to heat 2l water from 13°C to 30°C (temp rised with 17°C) wit resistor heater:
P[Wh] = (2000g water x 17°C x 4W)/3600 seconds = 37.78Wh
That mean 0.038KWh.
Yes, resistor heater consume ~2.9x les electricity compared to megnetic heater. So, resistor heater is mor eficient than magnetic heater.
If you plan to heat your home wit lower power consumption you can use a heat pump.
@@MagneticGamesIT if this is the purpose, please cover all the metal, including magnets with thin (pulverized) coat of calcium oxide etc., to prevent extra low emissivity of bare metal to fool the thermal imager.
@@MagneticGamesIT gd⅔ffrfdfxdz3eed5😢4wrtfr4swe4¾tretr
Not so sure that efficiency is the purpose of this video, is all I'm saying.
Выточить диск, наделать в нём посадок, найти подходящий электродвигатель, накупить магнитов, чтоб греть этой гравицапой водичку. Про кипятильник что нибудь слышал?)
You have successfully heated the water
I believe that I have not added in the consumption calculations the expenses of the electric motor, which by the way also works by induction
I feel like there's a no nut November joke to be made at the end
Hace falta utilizar un motor tan grande para que gire el plato con imanes? Habría menos consumo 🤔
kolko energie spotrebuju motor aby ohrial vodu?
rychlovarna konvica je ucinejsia
КПД этого нагревателя, безусловно, выше, чем у простой спирали
Если использовать не эл мотор, а ветряной двигатель, то будет совсем не плохо.
For 15 years, I have been working with angular resonance and I am ready to do the electricity generation project together with investors who agree to make an official protocol. Everything will be done openly after the signatures are signed.
Hey, what do you think would happen if insted of just one plate with magnets you put two, surrounding the copper pipe from both sides, and exposing more pipe surface to the magnets effect?
Would there be an increase of generated heat; a decrease in time for heating; or none?
there would be a greater heating speed but also more inductive resistance and therefore more electricity consumption
@@MagneticGamesIT thx for replying!!! 😁
Проще индукционную катушку намотать, переменный ток в сети заменит двигатель, и магниты не нужны. Просто ставишь железную кастрюлю с водой, закипит вода за минуту, проверено на домашней индукционной плите😂
The magnetic field of the magnets may adversely affect the induction
Do it…Do it
i see several things wrong here.
first off. the backing plate. you grab aluminium, as its non magnetic. cool. you fail to consider the BACK of the magnets.
use STEEL.
soft steel. the best sources are either the back of large speakers, or in the base of certain lamps... a nice chunk of soft iron or steel.
you only make the pockets very SHALLOW. enough to hold the magnet, they arent going anywhere! but you also complete the magnetic circuit at the rear, and it causes the front to create distinct loops of magnetic field.
you want the magnets alternating. i tried both ways. alternating is best.
the conductor. in a pipe, where are the eddy currents? around it. through a very small section of it. they cant circulate freely.
get a plate, like 5mm thick of copper, solder your water pipe to that. get the magnets to 1/4mm away... (Watch it, they die when overheated!)
i made an eddy current brake years ago, it was just that. a steel disc, a lot of 16mm neo magnets, and a brass (? was gold but didnt turn like brass? maybe monel?) disc. it heats up to untouchable after a few seconds. the amount of heat is directly proportional to the braking effect it produces. i really meant to lay the magnets out in a spiral pattern to make two rows but somehow i stuffed up and ended up with a single ring like this. doesnt make any difference other than the area being affected and therefore the braking and the heat... meh! version II!
if it isnt loading the source of power down, it isnt producing any heat.
Два вопроса:
- как?
-зачем?
например на морозе разогреть через авто пуск масло в коробке зимой на тракторе)
Thos is so much more efficient than using today's means of heating. Plus the copper acts as a coil of wire that, yes you can hook up to a water source to heat it but you can also harness the electricity generated from the hollow copper pipe if you just coil it over two more times! What's with all the hate about magnetic technologies? It's like people forgot how to believe
But how do you get them out ❓