This video caused me to get out of bed go downstairs and spend 20 minutes hitting a foam golf ball into the shower curtain to see if this is the information that I've been looking for. This just connected so many things for me. I recently made progress with the shoulder turn and have been working on keeping my elbow in. It works, sometimes. After watching this video I have realized what the move is that I have really been trying to do and now I am able to get into the right position. I also now understand a practice swing that I have been watching some of the good golfers I watch do. This is one of those videos that when you watch it ,you know that it is the real thing. Thank you!
Yet another video that makes me want to get out onto the range and try something out. Mark, I don't think I've ever watched one of your videos without coming away with at least one fantastic tip/drill to give me something to work on. Thank you - keep em coming.
I never understood the idea of "holding onto the angles" or "holding lag". The angle that we were supposed to be holding onto was, at least according to many coaches and YT'ubers, radial deviation which when released adds very little if anything to the club head speed, path or face angle at impact whereas the key angle is the flexion or lack thereof in the wrist. It does feel as though Mark's video on how the wrists should be, at least it terms of radial deviation, by half way down in the down swing is very similar to Larry Cheung's (whatever happened to Larry, he seems to have dropped off YT) down hinge ideas. The drill Mark suggests is a great one, really forces the golfer to concentrate on the path the lead hand is making the club grip end to follow. Once you get the grip end path right the club head will follow naturally without any need to "hang on to angles" or even worse "assist" the club release. Momentum and inertia if applied correctly is your friend
This is a very good tip for golfer who keep the club too far inside the hands at shaft parallel in the downswing. It makes contact so much easier and will help people hit different trajectories with greater ease. This video is another eureka moment from Mark Crossfield. He explains the 3D motion as well as anyone.
Thank you. This could not come at a better time. That was what I was exactly doing. Over lagging, bringing my club in, and was hitting it thin, then i adjusted it and I was hitting the ground hard before the ball. Awesome. Thank you.
Mark, your tip to hit irons with the top of the club (swing thought at least) has helped the most with this. No need to drag handles or anything and iron striking improves
I came across this realization last year after years of trying to force an impact position as you described. Started throwing the club with a turn and magically my shaft leaned correctly and bang irons were crisp as sunday toast.
Love this! I have had a total misconception of how to create lean or stop the club over taking the hands and have gone for both thoughts you mentioned at 1 point in time! I think my issue is holding onto the lag too long looking at videos as my club is behind my hands right up until just after p6 (I think!) Going to give these a go
Really important stuff here. Other than basic setup fundamentals, getting the clubhead coming in from behind my hands is pretty much all I do on the range. I try to feel as my hands and clubhead are coming down from behind me, as opposed to out front. When I'm striking it bad or hitting offline, there's a good chance I'm getting the hands and arms too far out and high, and tipping the club over. Usually, a telltale sign for me is the toe of my rather flat irons is too far down and taking the divots. Would like to see some instruction on the hand release in conjunction with this. So much instruction out there suggests a rolling of the wrists and forearms, or that the actual release is "flipping the club." That "flip" when released properly with the clubhead coming in from behind the hands and a little right side bend results in a ton of shaft lean, and speed.
These myth busters are terrific. Can’t believe the 💩 that has been spouted for so many years. If only I could go back 10 years and work on these drills not lag and holds and drag handle 😫. Once you train on the wrong drills it’s hard to relearn the correct drills. No such thing as erase and re-input.
With the club at the horizontaal just before strike I note that your club face is vertical. Whereas a number of teaching pros (RUclips and at my club) suggest the club face should be aligned with the spine angle. With the vertical club face there needs to be more hand rotation to get the face at impact right than with the club face already a wee bit closed. More hand rotation leaves more room for error at impact. OR is the club face alignment at this horizontal position simply a personal preference for each player?
This is definitely interesting… I like the simplicity of the feel with the head and hand relationship. I’ve seen something similar in Justin Rose’s pre-shot routine in regards to the first drill. Great stuff Mark! The goals are clear with these drills!
Jeez this couldn't have been timed better, Mark! I've worked into a steep swing whereby contact has moved too far up the face with my irons. I still deliver from the inside, but way too steep. I'm going to practice this at the range later. The "feel" for me is maintaining a little more width on the downswing. Does that sound right?
Any thoughts as to how someone that plays from a seated position in a specialty cart with minimal hip rotation can best achieve good shaft lead and ball/turf results?
This could be a eureka moment! The feels I'm getting hear on my lounge carpet is that I'm swinging out at the ball instead of the down at the ball that I'm used to!?
6:29..."This relationship is ....EVERYTHING". Mark here is talking about PATH. That should be the title of this video..."PATH.... IS.... EVERYTHING". The amount of lean can vary...diggers would have a lot, pickers..not so much. But ALL good players have good path.
I always get asked how I get so much “lag” and how can they, but they don’t understand that it fits the rest of my swing and how I move through the whole swing
If your a player who can strike the golf ball first, then take a divot, then you have enough shaft lean to play good golf. Obviously there is much more to the swing, but if you as I said can strike the ball then turf, you have enough lean of the shaft and don't need to be obsessed with getting all this unnecessary extra shaft lean.
Okay Mark, there is a problem with this video….. ….This piece of advice has single-handed ruined golf instruction on RUclips for all the others instructors! If ever there was a magic move, this is it - Thank you for giving everyone the ONLY advice they will ever need to understand how to swing a club.
even today, if you say this stuff to lots of local pros or locally elite players, they will scream at you that you are wrong and that you need to hold off the release. then theyll cite your poor play and their good play a evidence. They arent aware of what their bodies are actually doing. Citing Paddy Harrington helps at times because theyll listen to him. I heard it from you and Monte Sheinblum 1st.
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This video caused me to get out of bed go downstairs and spend 20 minutes hitting a foam golf ball into the shower curtain to see if this is the information that I've been looking for. This just connected so many things for me. I recently made progress with the shoulder turn and have been working on keeping my elbow in. It works, sometimes. After watching this video I have realized what the move is that I have really been trying to do and now I am able to get into the right position. I also now understand a practice swing that I have been watching some of the good golfers I watch do. This is one of those videos that when you watch it ,you know that it is the real thing. Thank you!
Best instruction on the tube for years❤
This might be some of the best information on RUclips!
Yet another video that makes me want to get out onto the range and try something out. Mark, I don't think I've ever watched one of your videos without coming away with at least one fantastic tip/drill to give me something to work on. Thank you - keep em coming.
I never understood the idea of "holding onto the angles" or "holding lag". The angle that we were supposed to be holding onto was, at least according to many coaches and YT'ubers, radial deviation which when released adds very little if anything to the club head speed, path or face angle at impact whereas the key angle is the flexion or lack thereof in the wrist.
It does feel as though Mark's video on how the wrists should be, at least it terms of radial deviation, by half way down in the down swing is very similar to Larry Cheung's (whatever happened to Larry, he seems to have dropped off YT) down hinge ideas.
The drill Mark suggests is a great one, really forces the golfer to concentrate on the path the lead hand is making the club grip end to follow. Once you get the grip end path right the club head will follow naturally without any need to "hang on to angles" or even worse "assist" the club release. Momentum and inertia if applied correctly is your friend
Thanks Mark, that’s opened my eyes a lot. Greatly appreciated, one of your best!
Mark, really enjoying these recent lesson vids. Have learned a lot. Thanks.
This is a very good tip for golfer who keep the club too far inside the hands at shaft parallel in the downswing. It makes contact so much easier and will help people hit different trajectories with greater ease. This video is another eureka moment from Mark Crossfield. He explains the 3D motion as well as anyone.
Thank you. This could not come at a better time. That was what I was exactly doing. Over lagging, bringing my club in, and was hitting it thin, then i adjusted it and I was hitting the ground hard before the ball. Awesome. Thank you.
Mark, your tip to hit irons with the top of the club (swing thought at least) has helped the most with this. No need to drag handles or anything and iron striking improves
Omg, thank you. I finally understand. Now I can practice applying
I came across this realization last year after years of trying to force an impact position as you described. Started throwing the club with a turn and magically my shaft leaned correctly and bang irons were crisp as sunday toast.
this focus has markedly improved my play.... shooting under par without the hours of practice back when I actually played
Love this! I have had a total misconception of how to create lean or stop the club over taking the hands and have gone for both thoughts you mentioned at 1 point in time! I think my issue is holding onto the lag too long looking at videos as my club is behind my hands right up until just after p6 (I think!) Going to give these a go
Eye opening, thanks Mark
Thanks for all the great videos and tips Mark - great stuff!
Mark another brilliant video
excellent tried this and it really works, go ahead say it (your welcome) thank you mark
Excellent. Well explained.
Fantastic video. Wish I had seen it before buying a Prosendr
A Light bulb just turned on in my brain with this one! A Uereka moment. Thank you!
Really important stuff here. Other than basic setup fundamentals, getting the clubhead coming in from behind my hands is pretty much all I do on the range. I try to feel as my hands and clubhead are coming down from behind me, as opposed to out front. When I'm striking it bad or hitting offline, there's a good chance I'm getting the hands and arms too far out and high, and tipping the club over. Usually, a telltale sign for me is the toe of my rather flat irons is too far down and taking the divots. Would like to see some instruction on the hand release in conjunction with this. So much instruction out there suggests a rolling of the wrists and forearms, or that the actual release is "flipping the club." That "flip" when released properly with the clubhead coming in from behind the hands and a little right side bend results in a ton of shaft lean, and speed.
First drill is basically what Pete Cowan is teaching these days. Essentially the cack handed drill
These myth busters are terrific. Can’t believe the 💩 that has been spouted for so many years. If only I could go back 10 years and work on these drills not lag and holds and drag handle 😫. Once you train on the wrong drills it’s hard to relearn the correct drills. No such thing as erase and re-input.
I thought I was done with these epiphanies. Thanks. Definitely thought the shaft lean was from left over lag where the club hadn't released yet.
Great video as usual. Basically the idea behind the Impact Snap?
With the club at the horizontaal just before strike I note that your club face is vertical. Whereas a number of teaching pros (RUclips and at my club) suggest the club face should be aligned with the spine angle. With the vertical club face there needs to be more hand rotation to get the face at impact right than with the club face already a wee bit closed. More hand rotation leaves more room for error at impact.
OR is the club face alignment at this horizontal position simply a personal preference for each player?
Thank you.
Top stuff 👏
Best Drill ever 😊
This is definitely interesting… I like the simplicity of the feel with the head and hand relationship. I’ve seen something similar in Justin Rose’s pre-shot routine in regards to the first drill. Great stuff Mark! The goals are clear with these drills!
Your still the best on u tube, club tests, please , have you reached 170 yet, more please
think hes hit 170 a couple times, he did a short on it recently
Love the teaching content Mark but do miss the course vlogs. Hope you and Coach haven't fallen out.
Jeez this couldn't have been timed better, Mark! I've worked into a steep swing whereby contact has moved too far up the face with my irons. I still deliver from the inside, but way too steep. I'm going to practice this at the range later. The "feel" for me is maintaining a little more width on the downswing. Does that sound right?
Every real golfer for 8 minutes:
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Any thoughts as to how someone that plays from a seated position in a specialty cart with minimal hip rotation can best achieve good shaft lead and ball/turf results?
This could be a eureka moment! The feels I'm getting hear on my lounge carpet is that I'm swinging out at the ball instead of the down at the ball that I'm used to!?
At 7:40 you push the stick downward after paralel with the ground, is it by trail arm (right hand)?
This makes sense to me…
Seems if you just setup with shaft lean, like many great players, you will have a much easier time with impact. DST golf has it right.
I watch your videos and always wonder how I've managed to play golf 😢
What about Sergio's swing, or Ben Hogan, Adam Scott, Jason Day and many others that use lag.
Please watch they are no different. 👍
They have exceptional rotation which creates lag, surprised Mark didn’t touch on this.
I struggle with this drill due to being blind in my right eye. I don’t have the peripheral vision.
6:29..."This relationship is ....EVERYTHING". Mark here is talking about PATH. That should be the title of this video..."PATH.... IS.... EVERYTHING". The amount of lean can vary...diggers would have a lot, pickers..not so much. But ALL good players have good path.
I always get asked how I get so much “lag” and how can they, but they don’t understand that it fits the rest of my swing and how I move through the whole swing
@Crossfieldmark nah you win, you've won scamming bell end of the year
Rick thinking you should have a go at Brandon dunes
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If your a player who can strike the golf ball first, then take a divot, then you have enough shaft lean to play good golf. Obviously there is much more to the swing, but if you as I said can strike the ball then turf, you have enough lean of the shaft and don't need to be obsessed with getting all this unnecessary extra shaft lean.
Okay Mark, there is a problem with this video…..
….This piece of advice has single-handed ruined golf instruction on RUclips for all the others instructors!
If ever there was a magic move, this is it - Thank you for giving everyone the ONLY advice they will ever need to understand how to swing a club.
Haha 😂
@BMNE61
So true!
It’s a RUclips cliche to say forget about RUclips cliches. 😂
Sorry Mark I Spoke to soon, I see what you're doing.
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even today, if you say this stuff to lots of local pros or locally elite players, they will scream at you that you are wrong and that you need to hold off the release. then theyll cite your poor play and their good play a evidence. They arent aware of what their bodies are actually doing. Citing Paddy Harrington helps at times because theyll listen to him. I heard it from you and Monte Sheinblum 1st.
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Lag and shaft lean is an effect, not cause.
Lag and shaft lean are not related. Angles in two different planes