Scotty you sir have taught me so much about growing! My 1st real go at growing and it’s dank LSD auto! day's out now and can't wait to share with my friends and my 74 year old mum. Cheers Scotty.
Cool deal for your mom. I'll be 73 in a couple months and I'm the one who figured out how to grow by watching youtube videos and have become a popular guy among certain adult kids.
I was skeptical of mushroom grow bags, until recently. I recently wsitched to a 2x4 tent for flowering. Added 2 bags on one side of my tent and noticed my plant were taller under 2 bags. I would rotate the plant and that side would grow taller. I have now placed a bag on each end of my tent. I do have a CO2 meter in the tent. With the bags I consistently have over 10% more CO2 with the bags. Normally 450 PPM with a 6" inline fan.. I have used yeast and sugar in the past but way more of a hassle than bags.
You need to know about alcoholic fermentation to make it work properly, have you checked the pH of the solution? Have you added fertilizers for the yeast? What amount of sugar/yeast did you use? The only artisanal way that really works is alcoholic fermentation, but to maintain adequate levels of co2 for the plants you need to use 25-liter plastic drums with 10 liters of water, 5kg of sugar and 100 grams of brewer's yeast, this will produce co2 for about a week, the first 3 days in a very consistent way, then gradually weakening, to maintain the co2 at 800ppm in a 2mx2mx2m room without AC and therefore with the ventilation slightly open and not completely sealed, (air duct of 125mm opened at 5% max) you need 2 of these drums a week, therefore 10kg of sugar a week. I have personally tested all the methods on the market, including bags, they only work with sealed rooms, otherwise they are literally money wasted, while with large drums and 5kg of sugar you produce an extremely high quantity of co2, so much so that you can maintain even 1200ppm in a 2x2x2m room without using pressurized cylinders. The issue is always the cost, to produce enough co2 to maintain the co2 above 800ppm in a room of that size with a slight air recirculation has a cost between sugar and yeast of about 40-50 euros per month. Paradoxically, the price of CO2 is always the same: if you buy it pressurized, 20kg of CO2 costs around 50 euros; to produce 20kg of CO2 with alcoholic fermentation, you need 40kg of sugar and around 3-400 grams of yeast, which have a commercial cost of around 50 euros...
I'm about to set up a 4x4 for myself and close friends. I wouldn't be confident in doing this had I not come across Scotty and crew. Thanks for making it easy AF Scotty :)
Back in the day I would use gallon jugs with warm water, sugar & yeast. Worked fine😂. Now have a generator but havent even hooked it up. Thanks for this ❤
Thats what I do. I put an air lock like the wine makers use in the jug with aquarium hose taped in the end of that so the co2 is forced through the hose into the back of a fan that blows across the plants
I have done this and used a carboy, apple juice, sugar and yeast. I was so impressed with the results that I celebrated by giving my plant (and myself) a drink of it.
I use the exhale bags and I like them I have 4x4 tent and I actually have 2 bags in there I have a cheap meter I dont know how accurate it is but it definitely reads my tent has pretty high co2 compared to the room but it fluctuates a lil but they last for a while like 6 months or something
Scotty, While watching the segment on C 02, you talked about different ways to get C 02. in the 1980's I seen friends use dry ice in the green house and placed it near the plant and they got darker green and grew faster in size. Is this something worth while?
08-10-24. Scotty, I enjoy your shows you are my number one go to grower when I run in to a problem I am extremely impressed with your knowledge. KEEP KEEPING IT REAL. I am in Central America I have been struggling, trying to grow plants in the wet season I don't have a dehumidifier. The wet season is from April to December. Also, I can't get CO2 in Central America. I am growing my plants in a room I keep the windows open and the fan blowing the air in. I am about 200 feet from the main road over 5,000 cars travel a day. Are my plants getting CO2 ?
i know this is 5 months ago, but I'm currently using a 1300ppm mushroom bag and have noticed a massive difference currently in a 3x3 above my light, they also last for upto 6 months at a time and only like $30 here in Australia
Love your guys videos, What do you think of these co2 generators that use baking soda and citric acid to make co2? Is it a more economic way to make co2 then refilling the tanks and do you think they work just as good for adding the co2 to a grow tent, thasnk you
Do you keep your inline vent fans on? I guess since the charcoal canister is at the top of the tent it should be fine. Forgive my ignorance, I’m just learning. Ty
I'VE USED AN EXHALE 360 BAG. BROUGHT PPM'S UP TO 800 PPM'S !! ADDED A HOMEMADE (SUGAR AND YEAST CO²) GENERATOR. AND RAISED PPM'S UP TO 1200 PPM'S !! JUS SAY'N!!
To calibrate your co2 meter take it outside and then subtract 3% from 400 for every 1000ft of elevation increase. So at 5000’ your ambient co2 would be 15% less than sea level going from 400 down to 340ppm. There are so many co2 distribution systems so you will have to teach yourself on how to calibrate it. All co2 monitors I’ve used I just set the ppm level and the range it will drop before it turns back on.
exactly, sealed rom means having an AC and a recirculating dehumidifier that keeps the temperature and humidity stable. Living in places with a very cold climate you can manage to do without the AC, leaving the intake open only about 5% with an external temperature below 10 ° c and a HID lighting system inserted inside a cooltube with a dedicated ventilation system that excludes it from the growroom, you can manage to keep the internal temperature around 27 ° c maintaining 1000 ppm of co2 without wasting too much, in this way for a space of 2mx2mx2m a 20kg cylinder of co2 can last about 4 months, while in a complete sealed room 20kg are enough for the whole year. 20KG OF CO2 cost in my area about 50 euros. The benefit that the plants get from it is not comparable to anything else, neither thousands of euros of lights, nor nutrients, nor type of culture, maintaining the CO2 even at just 800ppm you have an impressive root growth compared to a culture with ambient CO2
I use 8 hour burn tealight candles for my extra co2, between 1 and 4 of them at a time, I do it throughout flowering so the plants get an 8 hour boost of co2 while the lights are on each day.
I did that for a while...it was ok but I got a camping lantern and paraffin oil ...$100 for 4 gallons on eBay. It can be turned up later in bloom. This works great!
I have a 90cm x 90cm x 180cm tent, I hang a mushroom bag in the top, and my inkbird CO2 sensor at canopy level is around 800 to 1000 depending on ambient temperatures.
Id like to, what would a sealed 5x10 tent need? the most affordable fillup in mid missouri is $32 for 20lb. My lights are 640w, so I am unsure if I would benefit from the 1200ppm, or if i could coast around 800ppm to avoid tank swap outs every 10 days. Thanks for this information
i got a 5x10 with 18 autoflower on 21/3 when i harvest i plant a new seed, i use co2 bags, i hang them where they get the fresh air and they are happier with it and i got more yield but i have a special air circulation system with an open window and on the left site of the tent a 20 cm open gap on the upper site where the co bags hang where the little ones are and the light is not so high, a 24/0 running Inline Duct Fan on the right site without filter where the bigger plants are and my 50cm/20inch/90 Watt ventilators are on my light where the driver normally is what blows the wind down
Using CO2 requires sealing the grow space completely, which in turn means running a dehumidifier and usually an AC too. CO2 is the cheapest and easiest part by far.
@@regularSenseAppeal no, yeast, sugar generation in a closet with some, but minimal air movement (like slatted closet doors) will change the co2 in the closet. Clearly not as much as a totally sealed system, but continuous generation in a confined space does make a difference.
Air movement is important as only the air touching the leaf has the Co2 extracted by the plant. So you need to make sure the surface of the leaf is constantly having it's air replaced or it will be sitting in air, that has been depleted of the co2. So don't have you fan to high above the canopy and make sure it's tilted so it's moving the air below the tops as well.
I actually have a question for once ...What is a good CO2 level in a 5x5 ? I have grown for many years always having really good bud results . So I didn't care about using CO2..I have big fans moving air around..Tent is in half the basement a lot of room..Seems easy enough. I have a meter..So what's a good 5x5 level?
Im planning on getting another co2 controller and reglator, adding a y to the tank, to provide co2 ìn 2 rooms off of one tank. Once i finish my other chambers in the room.
I got brave and bought a co2 bag and to be honest i seen a difference the day after i put the bag in my 2x4 the girls started wanting more light so i cranked the lights up and bam they are loving it note i only have 2 plants so take that into consideration but all in all i feel like it helps
I used exhale bag in a 4x4 tent and it didn't raise it all but then when I would open my tent the amount of co2 would rise so us breathing is adding more co2 than the exhale bag. Just had the basic $40 bag. They have bigger versions of the bag but just breathing would raise my ppm to 500 to 800 depending on how long I was in there
Ok, hear me out! I flower in a 4x4 Gorilla and I’ve been using the Exhale bags for the last couple crops - DEFINITELY see improvements and I’ve done a ‘head2head’ between crop(s) w/out the Exhale or any other CO2 enrichment and crops w/ the Exhale - there is definitely an improvement!!! Again - I have a 4x4 and keep it mostly sealed - this run I’m about to harvest had (2) xl Exhale bags hanging above my 720w LED fixture so the CO2 slowly/steadily sinks down to my canopy and then pushes out bottom vents w/ positive air pressure…
What exactly is the improvement? I'd like to hear the before and after before jumping through all the hoops in this video. Or let me put it another way, if my flower checks off all the boxes and I have more than enough why change anything? I'd like to hear a detailed before and after instead of "you have to do this".
@@Truegrowers420 thanks for putting some numbers out there. I grow four plants at a time on two small tents. One has two 100 watt side by side and the other a 300 watt. I thought I read or saw somewhere that I’d need more power in order to use CO2. More powerful lights would push the lung room temps too high and throw everything out of whack. Meanwhile what I’m doing meets my needs and is doing a great job as is. That and the idea of dealing with welding supply shops and tanks convinced me that I’m happy without CO2.
QUESTION: Please help! I've a 5x3 grow tent, extreme heat climate so, exhausted to attic w/acinfinity fan ran on 5-6 & a 20" box fan for circulation, this keeps room cool. Will CO2 work OR will the exhausting system negate any improvement????
I live near Cancun Mexico in the jungle and the ambient air is 0 ppm until I go in the room. How does the jungle grow at 0? Came from Colorado where it was about 300 ppm
I use a 150 liter barrel of water with 15 kg of sugar and 35 grams of yeast. I have 5 barrels and start the first 2 at the beginning of flowering. The fermentation produces CO2 for about 4 weeks.
The can and bag did nothing for my 3x3 or 4x2 tent grows, I had both kinds hanging. I went to a CO2 tank. It's pricey to get started.. the regulator, the tank and controller but its the only thing that actually works.
Hey I love this topic and have an idea for a cheap co2 source but don't have the meter can someone run a test to see how much output it has egg shells and distilled white vinegar it's calcium bicarbonate and acidic acid they react producing co2 and it can take a couple days to finish the reaction and the leftover is calcium acetate you could theoretically make calmag by adding Epson salt and diluting with water
I wonder if there would be any benefit to supplementing oxygen for respiration during the dark cycle? that 20.9% has gotta be lowered in a sealed tent over the "night" Curious what our plants actually need?
Can I use grow dots with my Autos? If so, when should I add grow dots if I'm using Fox Farm Happy Frog soil? My local hydro store I noticed carries your grow dots and I'm struggling with using liquid nutes and feeding in general so I wanna give the dots a try. I'm in my tent every morning/evening when I get off work, I work swing shifts. But I think I give them enough CO2, it's only a 2x3 tent and I spend quite a bit of time with them daily. An auto and 4 little photo's in the tent but the photo's are about to go outside. Usually I got 2 autos going.
Yes the Blue bag of Grow Dots is what you want to use with autos, use 10 grams per gallon or media when growing autos. you can direct sow into the Final pot or some start in a solo cup and transplant into final pot before the tap root hits the bottom of the cup.
@@ScottyReal420 Awesome, thanks for the reply. I got a bag of CocoLoco and the blue pack of growdots. But instead of 10g/gal I put the entire 75g in a 5 gallon pot. I don't transplant auto's, so after I soaked the seed until it sank I put it straight into 5gal. She's a Mephisto freebie, a Skywalker x Ripley's OG. Should be sprouting through the soil any time now.
completely useless, DIY methods for aquariums are totally useless for growrooms, the same goes for the various bags on the market, which only work with completely sealed rooms. The only artisanal method that really works is alcoholic fermentation, but to maintain adequate levels of co2 for the plants you need to use 25-liter plastic drums with 10 liters of water, 5kg of sugar and 100 grams of brewer's yeast, this will produce co2 for about a week, the first 3 days in a very consistent way, then increasingly weakening, to maintain the co2 at 800ppm in a 2mx2mx2m room without AC and therefore with the ventilation slightly open and not completely sealed, you need 2 of these drums a week, therefore 10kg of sugar a week. Paradoxically, the price of CO2 is always the same: if you buy it pressurized, 20kg of CO2 costs around 50 euros every recharge; to produce 20kg of CO2 with alcoholic fermentation, you need 40kg of sugar and around 3-400 grams of yeast, which have a commercial cost of around 50 euros...
I use them now. They seem to work ok. They last a year and it takes a 4 for a 4x4 tent. That is what I noticed worked. I want to add CO2 so I know what I am added.
Yeah, 2 things I do when people ask why their growth is not as healthy as should be, is, The enviroment, eg Humidity, Temp and CO2 and the Media, I always add Humic Acid, always, in Soil, soiless, hydro, aero.... Humic Acid and CO2 are my gotos
I have 2x co2 bags hanging in my tent, its a bit hard to test the ppm in the air with the carbon filter running 24/7 but I'm positive the co2 gets distributed atleast a wee bit amongst the ladies *note I don't think my co2 bags are the ones with funghi, I think there's some sort of salt in them that activates at a certain temperature. They certainly stink like smelling salts
@@jordanscarborough-ht7zx yeah of course it does, it doesn't absorb it but it transports it out of the room. Otherwise I'd have died a hundred deaths to co2 poisoning 🤣
@@sirtaylor2569 yeah so it’s kinda pointless using co2 if you have a 10inch extraction filter isn’t it. I was told to do a calculation of changing out the room air, so ended up with like a 2000cfm fan which would render co2 a waste of money
So the person i bought my gaint light off of i could tell they smoked in their tent my gf hates when i smoke inside when its pooring rain or winter but whats the average opinion on smoking with the ladies. Ps. I am aware its rough on my filter
The CO2 detector I our lower level is in the hallway near the furnace room and grow room. Does all this extra CO2 in your homes trip your CO2 detectors? CO2 poisoning is something that happens often in homes during the winter up where I live. I wouldn’t want to take any chances when it’s -20 and the house is all sealed up in the winter. That’s what creeps me out about the idea of CO2. Introducing something like that into the home.
I do some squats in my sealed lung room and the co2 is at 800-1200ppm at all times. Healthy for me and healthy for the plants 😉 Plus I have a whole Martha tent in there so the mushrooms help 🍄
What about yeast? I mix 1 cup of sugar with 2 cups of warm water, then add 1 Spoon of yeast and pour another cup of ambient temperature water to the mix and get one full week of CO2 for almost free
Another nice option for small areas is an aquarium generator. They are a steel tank just like compressed gas and have the same electronic valves. You just fill them with baking soda, water, and citric acid every couple days all of which are dirt cheap and can be bought in bulk on Amazon. I can keep a 4x4 at between 1000 and 1200 ppm for about 3 days using a titan controls atlas 9 monitor/controller with fuzzy logic. It takes about 5 minutes to dump the tank give it a quick rinse and refill it to start the reaction again. No more trips to the hydro store every few days to exchange tanks or my neighbors wondering what the hell i use so much gas for. For about 60 bucks Amazon will deliver enough of the baking soda and citric acid to last a few months right to my door. Around my area that's the cost of about 3 compressed gas tank exchanges. No way I could get a couple months out of 3 tanks of compressed. The little generator saves time, work, and money while giving the same performance and increased safety and security.
What’s the point of CO2 if I’m already gifting more than enough excess flower to friends and relatives? I presume the idea of CO2 is to increase yield but my wife and I plus three cats breathing seems to be working. I could see the benefit on a larger scale but gardening is a retirement hobby with benefits. Having to negotiate prices at the local welding supply and carry tanks in and out of the house doesn’t meet my criteria for a cool hobby. I’m lazy by nature so I’m always give you the business if your tips mean more work and expense. I’m sure it is of value to very serious growers with strong backs and bigger budgets.
PS, there are dozens of "you have to do this" videos on a daily basis advocating things like CO2 with no "before and after" or description of how the end result is better. Like I mentioned, my setup grows good plants that do their job and give me excess that I give away. If by using CO2 and getting a bigger yield is the goal by using it I'd just be growing more free flower for someone else. I don't care for concentrates, anything that requires a MF'ing blow torch and makes me silently drool for four hours without uttering a word is a bridge too far. Does CO2 even make sense if we're satisfied where we're at?
chicken manure is quite variable in it's maturity. I think you are stressing the upper roots system of a plant doing this, and doing this to a small plant will stunt it with even mildly immature chicken manure. Build mature stuff into a compost tea solution is fairly safe, as the percentage in your tea mix is moderate, unless your tea is solely chicken manure.
I'm on my first grow with augmented CO2 with a AC Infinity CO2 controller and monitor. I have been hitting them hard with the light and running my CO2 at 1400ppm. The girls are doing fantastic! The one thing I must point out. If you plan to push your girls with increased light and CO2, you better have your nutrients set up properly! Organics or synthetic!
Im a tent grower with a Pulse Pro... mushroom bags add roughly 50ppm only for short time i found... It's not worth the $ IMHO Migro also did a video on all the cheap CO² additives, and they come up short for being beneficial
Scotty you sir have taught me so much about growing! My 1st real go at growing and it’s dank LSD auto! day's out now and can't wait to share with my friends and my 74 year old mum. Cheers Scotty.
Keep it up
Cool deal for your mom. I'll be 73 in a couple months and I'm the one who figured out how to grow by watching youtube videos and have become a popular guy among certain adult kids.
Sealed room. 20lb tank with controller set to 1450ppm.
Higher temps higher humidity
35 bucks a month roughly... not truly fully sealed.
I was skeptical of mushroom grow bags, until recently. I recently wsitched to a 2x4 tent for flowering. Added 2 bags on one side of my tent and noticed my plant were taller under 2 bags. I would rotate the plant and that side would grow taller. I have now placed a bag on each end of my tent. I do have a CO2 meter in the tent. With the bags I consistently have over 10% more CO2 with the bags. Normally 450 PPM with a 6" inline fan.. I have used yeast and sugar in the past but way more of a hassle than bags.
You need to know about alcoholic fermentation to make it work properly, have you checked the pH of the solution? Have you added fertilizers for the yeast? What amount of sugar/yeast did you use?
The only artisanal way that really works is alcoholic fermentation, but to maintain adequate levels of co2 for the plants you need to use 25-liter plastic drums with 10 liters of water, 5kg of sugar and 100 grams of brewer's yeast, this will produce co2 for about a week, the first 3 days in a very consistent way, then gradually weakening, to maintain the co2 at 800ppm in a 2mx2mx2m room without AC and therefore with the ventilation slightly open and not completely sealed, (air duct of 125mm opened at 5% max) you need 2 of these drums a week, therefore 10kg of sugar a week.
I have personally tested all the methods on the market, including bags, they only work with sealed rooms, otherwise they are literally money wasted, while with large drums and 5kg of sugar you produce an extremely high quantity of co2, so much so that you can maintain even 1200ppm in a 2x2x2m room without using pressurized cylinders.
The issue is always the cost, to produce enough co2 to maintain the co2 above 800ppm in a room of that size with a slight air recirculation has a cost between sugar and yeast of about 40-50 euros per month.
Paradoxically, the price of CO2 is always the same: if you buy it pressurized, 20kg of CO2 costs around 50 euros; to produce 20kg of CO2 with alcoholic fermentation, you need 40kg of sugar and around 3-400 grams of yeast, which have a commercial cost of around 50 euros...
Hey Scotty don't forget the old Tea candle method. I hang 5 in my grow and they grow beasts.
If you mind me asking what’s the tea candle method? Been trying to increase my co2 without breaking the bank for my small grow
@@Darkforward Get tea candles and lanterns and hang in grow. Can't say more youtube pulled down my last 2 reply to you
My wife talks way too much, there must be some way to exploit this. . .😂
I'm about to set up a 4x4 for myself and close friends. I wouldn't be confident in doing this had I not come across Scotty and crew. Thanks for making it easy AF Scotty :)
Citric acid, baking soda and aquarium co2 generator tank! Cheap and easy! 2x4 and 4x4 - easy 1200ppm
Im puffing on my plants during the grow and Ill puff on them after the grow 🤣
I have a flowering room with a 4x4, 5x5 and a 8x4 , what’s the best way to add co2
Been reading about apples producing C02 and I used to use powdered sugar and yeast in a folgers can with holes in the lid.
i make wine. the by product is c02 piped into 4x4 grow area.
Back in the day I would use gallon jugs with warm water, sugar & yeast. Worked fine😂. Now have a generator but havent even hooked it up. Thanks for this ❤
and have a air stone and pump in it!
The snell though...lol
Thats what I do. I put an air lock like the wine makers use in the jug with aquarium hose taped in the end of that so the co2 is forced through the hose into the back of a fan that blows across the plants
I have done this and used a carboy, apple juice, sugar and yeast. I was so impressed with the results that I celebrated by giving my plant (and myself) a drink of it.
I’m new to medical cannabis, but I’ve made wine while my garden plants are in the grow room. I’ve never checked the ratios but the plants love it.
I use the exhale bags and I like them I have 4x4 tent and I actually have 2 bags in there I have a cheap meter I dont know how accurate it is but it definitely reads my tent has pretty high co2 compared to the room but it fluctuates a lil but they last for a while like 6 months or something
Good to hear they are working for you I’m thinking about running exhale bags just seems easy less work easy method
How about fermenting homebrew in a keg with spunding valve (look it up) in your tent?
WHAT ABOUT HOW MUCH IS WASTED BEIN SUCKED OUT OF YOUR CARBON FILTER EXHAUST SYSTEM ?? HOW DO YOU MINIMIZE THAT ??
My cat has a window she loves to sleep in I just put my filtered intake next to her sleeping spot we’ll see if that works lol😂
Scotty,
While watching the segment on C 02, you talked about different ways to get C 02. in the 1980's I seen friends use dry ice in the green house and placed it near the plant and they got darker green and grew faster in size. Is this something worth while?
08-10-24.
Scotty, I enjoy your shows you are my number one go to grower when I run in to a problem I am extremely impressed with your knowledge. KEEP KEEPING IT REAL. I am in Central America
I have been struggling, trying to grow plants in the wet season I don't have a dehumidifier. The wet season is from April to December. Also, I can't get CO2 in Central America. I am growing my plants in a room I keep the windows open and the fan blowing the air in. I am about 200 feet from the main road over 5,000 cars travel a day.
Are my plants getting CO2 ?
Hi there. Got confused... Sulpher bad for plants? It's kind of an essential nutrient no?
i know this is 5 months ago, but I'm currently using a 1300ppm mushroom bag and have noticed a massive difference currently in a 3x3 above my light, they also last for upto 6 months at a time and only like $30 here in Australia
Exercise in your plant room. They love it.
I don't run co2 I get decent results without
Love your guys videos, What do you think of these co2 generators that use baking soda and citric acid to make co2? Is it a more economic way to make co2 then refilling the tanks and do you think they work just as good for adding the co2 to a grow tent, thasnk you
I use Exhale bags in my 2x4 and 3x3 and can keep 600+ppm running negative pressure. I use gas in the 4x4 flower tent.
365 or XL?
@ XLs. Yeast, sugar and water with an air stone work too.
@@CasaDelWhacko I'm going to try Myco2 bags, they seem better than exhale bags, plus they are way cheaper. We shall see
Do you keep your inline vent fans on? I guess since the charcoal canister is at the top of the tent it should be fine. Forgive my ignorance, I’m just learning. Ty
Mercaptan when burnt also leaves a white residue on everything
I would know my job includes servicing gas logs
When using grow dots in a container, how do you apply the directed amounts? Bottom of the container? Middle? Top? Mixed all about?
mix it in.
I'VE USED AN EXHALE 360 BAG. BROUGHT PPM'S UP TO 800 PPM'S !! ADDED A HOMEMADE (SUGAR AND YEAST CO²) GENERATOR. AND RAISED PPM'S UP TO 1200 PPM'S !! JUS SAY'N!!
Maybe bring up calibrating a co2 controller on dgc show. Altitude. Center value, min, max settings?
Or here
To calibrate your co2 meter take it outside and then subtract 3% from 400 for every 1000ft of elevation increase. So at 5000’ your ambient co2 would be 15% less than sea level going from 400 down to 340ppm. There are so many co2 distribution systems so you will have to teach yourself on how to calibrate it. All co2 monitors I’ve used I just set the ppm level and the range it will drop before it turns back on.
I run co2 but my tent turned into a room and now the tank lasts maybe a month . I love what it does though. Even my autos went crazy
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"Sealed room"
Please explain, no fresh air in?
No exhaust? Are you running co2, A/C and dehumidifier to control the environment?
exactly, sealed rom means having an AC and a recirculating dehumidifier that keeps the temperature and humidity stable.
Living in places with a very cold climate you can manage to do without the AC, leaving the intake open only about 5% with an external temperature below 10 ° c and a HID lighting system inserted inside a cooltube with a dedicated ventilation system that excludes it from the growroom, you can manage to keep the internal temperature around 27 ° c maintaining 1000 ppm of co2 without wasting too much, in this way for a space of 2mx2mx2m a 20kg cylinder of co2 can last about 4 months, while in a complete sealed room 20kg are enough for the whole year.
20KG OF CO2 cost in my area about 50 euros.
The benefit that the plants get from it is not comparable to anything else, neither thousands of euros of lights, nor nutrients, nor type of culture, maintaining the CO2 even at just 800ppm you have an impressive root growth compared to a culture with ambient CO2
I use 8 hour burn tealight candles for my extra co2, between 1 and 4 of them at a time, I do it throughout flowering so the plants get an 8 hour boost of co2 while the lights are on each day.
I did that for a while...it was ok but I got a camping lantern and paraffin oil ...$100 for 4 gallons on eBay. It can be turned up later in bloom. This works great!
@@williambenson5184 a lantern in a tent in my basement? What could possibly go wrong....
I have a 90cm x 90cm x 180cm tent, I hang a mushroom bag in the top, and my inkbird CO2 sensor at canopy level is around 800 to 1000 depending on ambient temperatures.
Id like to, what would a sealed 5x10 tent need? the most affordable fillup in mid missouri is $32 for 20lb. My lights are 640w, so I am unsure if I would benefit from the 1200ppm, or if i could coast around 800ppm to avoid tank swap outs every 10 days. Thanks for this information
i got a 5x10 with 18 autoflower on 21/3 when i harvest i plant a new seed, i use co2 bags, i hang them where they get the fresh air and they are happier with it and i got more yield but i have a special air circulation system with an open window and on the left site of the tent a 20 cm open gap on the upper site where the co bags hang where the little ones are and the light is not so high, a 24/0 running Inline Duct Fan on the right site without filter where the bigger plants are and my 50cm/20inch/90 Watt ventilators are on my light where the driver normally is what blows the wind down
AWESOME INFORMATION AS USUAL 😊 THANKS SCOTTY 👍 HI-C 😊.
I’ve never used Co2 but I’m really interested in trying. Not sure what system is best for me. I’m going to start doing some research
Using CO2 requires sealing the grow space completely, which in turn means running a dehumidifier and usually an AC too. CO2 is the cheapest and easiest part by far.
@@regularSenseAppeal no, yeast, sugar generation in a closet with some, but minimal air movement (like slatted closet doors) will change the co2 in the closet. Clearly not as much as a totally sealed system, but continuous generation in a confined space does make a difference.
Hell yeah!
Do you use co2 during the entire grow or start using it at a certain stage of the grow?
Air movement is important as only the air touching the leaf has the Co2 extracted by the plant. So you need to make sure the surface of the leaf is constantly having it's air replaced or it will be sitting in air, that has been depleted of the co2. So don't have you fan to high above the canopy and make sure it's tilted so it's moving the air below the tops as well.
I actually have a question for once ...What is a good CO2 level in a 5x5 ? I have grown for many years always having really good bud results . So I didn't care about using CO2..I have big fans moving air around..Tent is in half the basement a lot of room..Seems easy enough. I have a meter..So what's a good 5x5 level?
Im planning on getting another co2 controller and reglator, adding a y to the tank, to provide co2 ìn 2 rooms off of one tank.
Once i finish my other chambers in the room.
I got brave and bought a co2 bag and to be honest i seen a difference the day after i put the bag in my 2x4 the girls started wanting more light so i cranked the lights up and bam they are loving it note i only have 2 plants so take that into consideration but all in all i feel like it helps
How long does that 1 tank last?
Very educational 👍🏾💯
I used exhale bag in a 4x4 tent and it didn't raise it all but then when I would open my tent the amount of co2 would rise so us breathing is adding more co2 than the exhale bag. Just had the basic $40 bag. They have bigger versions of the bag but just breathing would raise my ppm to 500 to 800 depending on how long I was in there
Thank you for this Video!🎉
In my opinion from what I understand is that plants let out a small amounts of C02 when in they had periods of dark .
There is more to it than just co2. It's called love😄
My plants strong thanks to grow dots, but do I have to worry about harsh/hate flavor because plants are so green no sign of fade whatsoever?
Ok, hear me out!
I flower in a 4x4 Gorilla and I’ve been using the Exhale bags for the last couple crops - DEFINITELY see improvements and I’ve done a ‘head2head’ between crop(s) w/out the Exhale or any other CO2 enrichment and crops w/ the Exhale - there is definitely an improvement!!! Again - I have a 4x4 and keep it mostly sealed - this run I’m about to harvest had (2) xl Exhale bags hanging above my 720w LED fixture so the CO2 slowly/steadily sinks down to my canopy and then pushes out bottom vents w/ positive air pressure…
How big of a difference?
Whats your co2 meter saying cause my exhale bags didn't work at all in my 5x5 but my co2 tank works fine
What exactly is the improvement? I'd like to hear the before and after before jumping through all the hoops in this video. Or let me put it another way, if my flower checks off all the boxes and I have more than enough why change anything? I'd like to hear a detailed before and after instead of "you have to do this".
@@StanMNdirt co2 gives you up to 30% more growth. So in the least you could flip to flower faster. More dense buds too.
@@Truegrowers420 thanks for putting some numbers out there. I grow four plants at a time on two small tents. One has two 100 watt side by side and the other a 300 watt. I thought I read or saw somewhere that I’d need more power in order to use CO2. More powerful lights would push the lung room temps too high and throw everything out of whack. Meanwhile what I’m doing meets my needs and is doing a great job as is. That and the idea of dealing with welding supply shops and tanks convinced me that I’m happy without CO2.
QUESTION: Please help! I've a 5x3 grow tent, extreme heat climate so, exhausted to attic w/acinfinity fan
ran on 5-6 & a 20" box fan for circulation, this keeps room cool.
Will CO2 work OR will the exhausting system negate any improvement????
when you use co2 you want a sealed room, exhausting will exhaust the co2 also, you will need a sealed room with some type of A/C
I live near Cancun Mexico in the jungle and the ambient air is 0 ppm until I go in the room. How does the jungle grow at 0? Came from Colorado where it was about 300 ppm
I ordered GROW DOTS and it got seized by Australian customs!! It's not allowed in Australia whats In it
The average increase in growth rate and yield is about 30% when going from 400 to 1200ppm, as long as your other inputs can keep up
where can we see your grows??
realgrowlab.com
I use a 150 liter barrel of water with 15 kg of sugar and 35 grams of yeast. I have 5 barrels and start the first 2 at the beginning of flowering. The fermentation produces CO2 for about 4 weeks.
Question? So if my plants are in my house with me , no tent I have my grow in my utility room and only close door at night, do I need co2?
without measuring what your co2 is in the grow area it is hard to tell if adding more would help.
for now meditating in my tent, but soon I'll have some mushrooms growing. I'll let them sit in my tent too.
I am ready to see that video I talk to mine. 😁.
The can and bag did nothing for my 3x3 or 4x2 tent grows, I had both kinds hanging. I went to a CO2 tank. It's pricey to get started.. the regulator, the tank and controller but its the only thing that actually works.
Hey I love this topic and have an idea for a cheap co2 source but don't have the meter can someone run a test to see how much output it has egg shells and distilled white vinegar it's calcium bicarbonate and acidic acid they react producing co2 and it can take a couple days to finish the reaction and the leftover is calcium acetate you could theoretically make calmag by adding Epson salt and diluting with water
Yeast and sugar with some 2 liter bottles and aquarium tubing.....definitely use co2
I think so....... don't forget the check valves, T junctions, and silicon/glue... it's that easy folks,,,there's stuff on YT
The "Airtap" series from AC infinity. This works great!
I wonder if there would be any benefit to supplementing oxygen for respiration during the dark cycle? that 20.9% has gotta be lowered in a sealed tent over the "night" Curious what our plants actually need?
Plants do absorb oxygen at night during respiration.
Can I use grow dots with my Autos? If so, when should I add grow dots if I'm using Fox Farm Happy Frog soil? My local hydro store I noticed carries your grow dots and I'm struggling with using liquid nutes and feeding in general so I wanna give the dots a try.
I'm in my tent every morning/evening when I get off work, I work swing shifts. But I think I give them enough CO2, it's only a 2x3 tent and I spend quite a bit of time with them daily. An auto and 4 little photo's in the tent but the photo's are about to go outside. Usually I got 2 autos going.
Yes the Blue bag of Grow Dots is what you want to use with autos, use 10 grams per gallon or media when growing autos. you can direct sow into the Final pot or some start in a solo cup and transplant into final pot before the tap root hits the bottom of the cup.
@@ScottyReal420 Awesome, thanks for the reply. I got a bag of CocoLoco and the blue pack of growdots. But instead of 10g/gal I put the entire 75g in a 5 gallon pot. I don't transplant auto's, so after I soaked the seed until it sank I put it straight into 5gal. She's a Mephisto freebie, a Skywalker x Ripley's OG. Should be sprouting through the soil any time now.
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How would baking soda mixed with vinegar possibly work in a small grow area. As a treatment periodically??????
completely useless, DIY methods for aquariums are totally useless for growrooms, the same goes for the various bags on the market, which only work with completely sealed rooms.
The only artisanal method that really works is alcoholic fermentation, but to maintain adequate levels of co2 for the plants you need to use 25-liter plastic drums with 10 liters of water, 5kg of sugar and 100 grams of brewer's yeast, this will produce co2 for about a week, the first 3 days in a very consistent way, then increasingly weakening, to maintain the co2 at 800ppm in a 2mx2mx2m room without AC and therefore with the ventilation slightly open and not completely sealed, you need 2 of these drums a week, therefore 10kg of sugar a week.
Paradoxically, the price of CO2 is always the same: if you buy it pressurized, 20kg of CO2 costs around 50 euros every recharge; to produce 20kg of CO2 with alcoholic fermentation, you need 40kg of sugar and around 3-400 grams of yeast, which have a commercial cost of around 50 euros...
You could use 2 xls for your space last about 9 months
Exhale bags
Yup two tanks for never running out... thats the way to do it.
How much co2 does dehumidifier make
should make none
I'm surprised you never mentioned a CO2 generator. Yeast in sugar water creates a constant flow.
Brother spot on!!! CO2 in a tank
At what cost? Per grow?
It will depend on the prices in your area.
What about using sugar, water and yeast
this will work but takes time to set up and them clean up and reset. in the long run you will spend more time and money.
I use them now. They seem to work ok. They last a year and it takes a 4 for a 4x4 tent. That is what I noticed worked. I want to add CO2 so I know what I am added.
I breathe heavy when defolliation happens 😂
All the biomass in any tree or plant comes from the atmospheric in the form of co2. Not the soil. I love that
Take up wine or beer making start a fresh batch about 2 weeks into flower.
I run a 4x4 tent with a 315w cmh. 2 exhale bags and the plants take off.
Yeah, 2 things I do when people ask why their growth is not as healthy as should be, is, The enviroment, eg Humidity, Temp and CO2 and the Media, I always add Humic Acid, always, in Soil, soiless, hydro, aero.... Humic Acid and CO2 are my gotos
I have 2x co2 bags hanging in my tent, its a bit hard to test the ppm in the air with the carbon filter running 24/7 but I'm positive the co2 gets distributed atleast a wee bit amongst the ladies
*note I don't think my co2 bags are the ones with funghi, I think there's some sort of salt in them that activates at a certain temperature.
They certainly stink like smelling salts
The carbon filter doesn't absorb the co2.
@@TimBone87surely a carbon filter will suck out the co2 from the room?
@@jordanscarborough-ht7zx yeah of course it does, it doesn't absorb it but it transports it out of the room. Otherwise I'd have died a hundred deaths to co2 poisoning 🤣
@@sirtaylor2569 yeah so it’s kinda pointless using co2 if you have a 10inch extraction filter isn’t it. I was told to do a calculation of changing out the room air, so ended up with like a 2000cfm fan which would render co2 a waste of money
So the person i bought my gaint light off of i could tell they smoked in their tent my gf hates when i smoke inside when its pooring rain or winter but whats the average opinion on smoking with the ladies. Ps. I am aware its rough on my filter
the smoke can clog the leaf pores if your ventilation is not strong enough and yes in is rough on filters.
The CO2 detector I our lower level is in the hallway near the furnace room and grow room. Does all this extra CO2 in your homes trip your CO2 detectors? CO2 poisoning is something that happens often in homes during the winter up where I live. I wouldn’t want to take any chances when it’s -20 and the house is all sealed up in the winter. That’s what creeps me out about the idea of CO2. Introducing something like that into the home.
I think you are thinking about CO(carbon monoxide) which is entirely different.
@@wadeirwin7003 I could have simply posted that I got a D in high school science and saved us both time on this one.
@@StanMNdirt 🤣
@@wadeirwin7003 my excuse is that I’m baked from some CO2 free home grown. Nothing will make sense for a while.
I do some squats in my sealed lung room and the co2 is at 800-1200ppm at all times. Healthy for me and healthy for the plants 😉 Plus I have a whole Martha tent in there so the mushrooms help 🍄
My grow is in the basement where all the c02 is concentrated from the upper floors
🤔 nice. Mine is too. Right by the furnace and and the cat room :) non stop CO2 lol
@@Dab_Marino probably ammonia and plenty of nitrogen in the air too.... so run a couple bean or clover plants to suck the shat up.
@@glen.simpson good call Growmie! 🔥👈🏼🤙🏼👽
@@Dab_Marino mine is by the furnace to
What about yeast? I mix 1 cup of sugar with 2 cups of warm water, then add 1 Spoon of yeast and pour another cup of ambient temperature water to the mix and get one full week of CO2 for almost free
Having an accurate meter means a lot and you can get away with nonclorinated water+suger+yeast but you gotta stay on top of it
There is NO meter under a couple hundred $$ that is gonna be accurate, these lame $20 amazon ones are NOT
Another nice option for small areas is an aquarium generator. They are a steel tank just like compressed gas and have the same electronic valves. You just fill them with baking soda, water, and citric acid every couple days all of which are dirt cheap and can be bought in bulk on Amazon. I can keep a 4x4 at between 1000 and 1200 ppm for about 3 days using a titan controls atlas 9 monitor/controller with fuzzy logic. It takes about 5 minutes to dump the tank give it a quick rinse and refill it to start the reaction again. No more trips to the hydro store every few days to exchange tanks or my neighbors wondering what the hell i use so much gas for. For about 60 bucks Amazon will deliver enough of the baking soda and citric acid to last a few months right to my door. Around my area that's the cost of about 3 compressed gas tank exchanges. No way I could get a couple months out of 3 tanks of compressed. The little generator saves time, work, and money while giving the same performance and increased safety and security.
Thanks for the info!
What’s the point of CO2 if I’m already gifting more than enough excess flower to friends and relatives? I presume the idea of CO2 is to increase yield but my wife and I plus three cats breathing seems to be working.
I could see the benefit on a larger scale but gardening is a retirement hobby with benefits. Having to negotiate prices at the local welding supply and carry tanks in and out of the house doesn’t meet my criteria for a cool hobby.
I’m lazy by nature so I’m always give you the business if your tips mean more work and expense. I’m sure it is of value to very serious growers with strong backs and bigger budgets.
PS, there are dozens of "you have to do this" videos on a daily basis advocating things like CO2 with no "before and after" or description of how the end result is better. Like I mentioned, my setup grows good plants that do their job and give me excess that I give away. If by using CO2 and getting a bigger yield is the goal by using it I'd just be growing more free flower for someone else. I don't care for concentrates, anything that requires a MF'ing blow torch and makes me silently drool for four hours without uttering a word is a bridge too far. Does CO2 even make sense if we're satisfied where we're at?
CO2 bags work excellent for smaller grows, one bag per light hang it above the light you're done
I have a 50# co2 tank in a seal room 12x5'.
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The Macros should be (C NPK Ca+) & always Humic acid.
Finally on board w supplemental co2 lol..... growing without is wasting power
Top dress with chicken manure. Emits co2. May not smell good for a week or 2 but hay
chicken manure is quite variable in it's maturity. I think you are stressing the upper roots system of a plant doing this, and doing this to a small plant will stunt it with even mildly immature chicken manure. Build mature stuff into a compost tea solution is fairly safe, as the percentage in your tea mix is moderate, unless your tea is solely chicken manure.
I pet and talk to my plants. Im not crazy, right? 😂
I will say in a small place, a cat, a dog, a roommate, and I put off tons of CO2. Some folks should just get a meter first, you may be good indoors.
Make beer in the cupboard next to your grow, time the fermentation for early flowering.
is there any info on smoking cigarettes around the plants? or will just breathing around them just as healthy for them?
Particles from the smoke can clog leave pores and effect photosynthesis.
I'm on my first grow with augmented CO2 with a AC Infinity CO2 controller and monitor. I have been hitting them hard with the light and running my CO2 at 1400ppm. The girls are doing fantastic!
The one thing I must point out. If you plan to push your girls with increased light and CO2, you better have your nutrients set up properly! Organics or synthetic!
Im a tent grower with a Pulse Pro... mushroom bags add roughly 50ppm only for short time i found...
It's not worth the $ IMHO
Migro also did a video on all the cheap CO² additives, and they come up short for being beneficial
good info!
Carbon based nutrients like Rooted Leaf and Organics Alive are supposed to bring extra carbon into plants also