Sayid's character arc is just so brutal through this series... finds redemption in the early seasons and it just goes downhill from there... I think an element which people overlook also is that, while Sayid is manipulated by Ben into killing all those people, Sayid still chooses to do so out of his anger and need for vengeance for someone who he loved perhaps WAY too much. S1x21 'The Greater Good' explores this same theme of how much Sayid was willing to do anything for Nadia, and how it also drove him to similarly poor choices. And how, in a mirror situation, Sayid chose the better decision to put the lives of others before his own love for someone - in that case he put the good of the group and Locke's life over his love for Shannon and her desire for vengeance for Boone's death. He really loved Shannon, but NEVER to the detriment of himself or others around him. Sayid's love for Nadia is sweet, but it's its intensity which is what drove him to make poor choices... This episode really highlights that and it definitively is the low of all his lows... but nonetheless still a great episode!
I think his feelings for Shannon were similar, we see him fall to similar old habits after her death. He's fine with having tortured Henry Gale. I think the difference is that Sayid's actions with Nadia, similar to Shannon, is something he justified to himself, in both cases it was to protect those he cared about. Him torturing Sawyer, to help Shannon, is him justifying his actions with the service of helping someone.
22:11 Oh my god, this beats even everything, I hoped for! You should see your faces! What an awesome reaction - AGAIN! So glad, you didn't see that coming and no one spoiled it for you....
When you realize Radzinsky spent the next 30 years pressing a button.. Every 108 minutes... And for a good chunk of that alone.. He was already crazy af before that.
For those out there old enough to remember 80s TV; did any of you, when you first saw Oldham emerge from his shelter, expect two mute guys to follow him; only to have him say "Hi! I'm Larry! (gesturing to the one guy)This is my brother Darrell,(...then to the other...) and this is my other brother Daryl!"
Idk with LSD you're either still conscious enough to know how to lie, or not conscious enough to make any sense at all, I don't think there's any uG of acid that would result in it being a truth serum
8:12 Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!! I think I just caught the very first glimpse of my favourite Jack, right here! This is the way he's supposed to be. My hero. My Jack...
Idk if I'm the only one noticing this but the last couple videos I've watched from you guys have had some flickering in them and glitching out no matter which device I watch them on.
I was watching Rana freak out and then Suraj is staring dead into the camera like he was looking directly into our souls that scared the living daylights out of me @22:26
since the main plot is "whatever happens, happened already," i would of said, good missdirect attempt lost, but somehow he survives, otherwise none of "future ben" would of happened. next.
Pointless fact of the day: My IRL boss is called Hurley and he is a fat millionaire. Unfortunately, his every other characteristic is more in line with Benjamin Linus
Gotta give credit where credit is due. Suraj show uncharacteristic restraint through most of this viewing. For the most part, he was able to curb his instinct to mansplain things. 10:23 Here, he even went as far as asking if his mansplanation was necessary. Of course, Rana effectively said "no" and he tried to mumble some mansplanation anyway. And 11:33 here, when Nikki was merely asking about the nature of that drug they injected Sayid with, Suraj decided to mansplain something she wasn't even asking about and started giving the "history" between the "hostiles" and the Dharma Initiative. But overall, he was much, much better and against his "better" instincts, more respectful to the first-time viewers.
BTW If you have Netflix but not Hulu (only available in the US), you can use a VPN and connect to the Indian, Japanese, South Korean, Thai or Singaporean server!!
However, many life saving medicines and procedures and scientific discoveries came about because of WWII. Also remember what Eloise told Desmond about time having a way of course correcting itself
lol ben didnt kill the dharma people, in season 4 ben said it wasnt his call, because he wasnt the leader. it was either join the others or die with the dharma.
What? That just broke the thing we're supposed to believe in.... sigh, girls, what did Dan say? Whatever happened, happened. ye of little faith. I know this is an old reaction and they finished this whole thing a long time ago, this is actually my second time watching the reactions. This time through I'm noticing a lot more goofy shit than I did the first time. lol. I really liked Nikki the first time, she's annoying me a little this time through, lol.
5:33 I think this was one of the four scenes, that they didn't shoot on Hawaii. But I could be wrong about that... Look how lost Sayid seems though, I think this was the turning point for me, when I stopped liking him...
The only scenes they didn't film in Hawaii were Widmore's in London in season 4 (and the season 5 premiere I think) and some street and hospital scenes in LA in the s3 finale (Jack's flashforwards). The rest including this episode were all filmed in Hawaii.
Honestly, they could've just said that Sayid was part of their crew back when they came to Darmaville and that he had been lost in the jungle on the hostiles' turf for 3 years or something. Or Sawyer could've just came clean and convinced them he was a good guy. There were a bunch of ways to do this that lead to not torturing him possibly making him spill the beans on Sawyer and the rest and putting them in more danger than if they just came clean.
It was Sayid's fault for being a dumbass. All he had to do was join the Dharma Initiate and follow Sawyer's plan. He kept refusing and being laid back about everything, leading to this chain of events.
@@r3zuri Yeah true. I don't know why he would automatically just call him a hostile like that other than to make some sort of problem for the plot. He was so aggressive to the guy before, but now he is afraid to just tell him that he was part of their crew or something. He could've just said to him that he thought he was dead all this time. Sayid is a good enough liar to play along too. Oh well I love Lost anyways.
its more mystical than season 1- mid of season 3. but i also like the timetravel stuff. but i dont like season 6 so much. its the worst of all of them IMO. Best of Season 6 was the man in black actor to me.
Are there a lot of Arabs that really don't like Arab/Islamic society? Rana looked like she had some rage in her about it. Unlike the right-wing in America, I don't judge each individual Muslim, or person from the Middle East. But, also - unlike my fellow progressives - I find it hard to defend Islamic culture as it seems antithetical the liberal values. But that's also how I feel about Judaism and Evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics. What irritates me about my fellow Christians, they aren't very Christlike. Although, as I understand it, when it comes to taking care of the poor and the sick... Muslims are of the same mind as Jews, and true Christians.
Because Sayid is one of the show's main protagonists and Ben was the show's first (or second) antagonist that remained longer than a few episodes. Some fans were being biased.
Lol why did they immediately assumed Ben was dead? Like, how many times in this show people got shot and survived? And why did the girl in the middle start talking about a new timeline being created or Ben dissapearing in the future when up to this point the show has already established that there's only one timeline and you can go foward and backwards but never create another one??? And also, "what happened, happened" and it CANT be changed, so all of this had already happened in the past of adult Ben and so did the events from the rest of the characters future. Meaning that nothing they do during time travel can affect any of that. How is that so hard to understand? :/
Why do people always ask if you would go back in time and kill hilter. How about go back in time and try to make him a better person? I dont think most people could shoot a baby. Also realistically if you did kill him, we wouldnt exist because of the butterfly effect.
Sawyer's nicknames in this episode : "H" for Horace "Stu" for Radzinsky "Sweet Kid" for Young Ben "Chief" for Sayid "Our You" for Oldham "Psychopath" for Oldham
Haha yeah she's not a phased as she was anymore. You can tell GoT has slightly hardened her. I hope they record the season finale of s5. I would love to see her react to for the watch
I really don't like Sayid after Seasons 5 and 6. He used to be one my favorites in earlier seasons but the way the writing handles him is just... Not good. He turns into an unlikable and unreasonable asshat for most of the remainder of the series, for absolutely no reason. None of his calm/cold attitutde in face of dire situations, no concern for his companions which was one of his defining traits, and honestly none of his brains either. That said this is still a great episode with a great ending.
Just spent my whole night after getting home from work watching you guys watching lost so cool love you guys especially rana thank u Suraj wish I could follow you guys but I only got Facebook no Instagram Evangeline Lilly is a incredible person.
to the true losties: Isnt the actor that plays oldham the same one that sells Hurley his scooter when he is in the aiport and has to make his flight in season 1?? I always think that he is played by the same actor.
Oldham is played by veteran character actor Willian Sanderson from Bladerunner (1982) and Deadwood series. He was also Larry, of Larry, Darryl and the other brother Darryl of the Newhart series.
@@Hatziman "Darryl, my other brother Darryl." Lol! Loved that. My mother used to watch it when I was a kid. That line, repeated every episode, and the very awesome series finale is all I really remember. But the actor also played the Sheriff of Bon Temps on True Blood for a few seasons. Then the show diverged significantly from the books, and he ended up becoming a season villain. I hear they're working on a reboot. True Blood's series finale was really awful, in hindsight. Just like the last 3 seasons. Lost is still my favorite series finale.
The scene of young Ben getting abused always breaks my heart. Sterling Beaumon did a terrific job.
One of my favorite moments of promo misdirection were the previews for this episode where they show Juliet saying to Kate "Back off."
Yeah me too! I thought it was about to go down
Yeah, I remember that. Clever bastards.
I think it was "stay away" as if it cut out the first part. I also remember them spoiling the ending in the promo which pissed me off lol.
Sayid's character arc is just so brutal through this series... finds redemption in the early seasons and it just goes downhill from there...
I think an element which people overlook also is that, while Sayid is manipulated by Ben into killing all those people, Sayid still chooses to do so out of his anger and need for vengeance for someone who he loved perhaps WAY too much.
S1x21 'The Greater Good' explores this same theme of how much Sayid was willing to do anything for Nadia, and how it also drove him to similarly poor choices. And how, in a mirror situation, Sayid chose the better decision to put the lives of others before his own love for someone - in that case he put the good of the group and Locke's life over his love for Shannon and her desire for vengeance for Boone's death.
He really loved Shannon, but NEVER to the detriment of himself or others around him.
Sayid's love for Nadia is sweet, but it's its intensity which is what drove him to make poor choices...
This episode really highlights that and it definitively is the low of all his lows... but nonetheless still a great episode!
I read a message describing sayids charector arc perfectly which I fully can't remember but it was perfect and made his story arc perfect
It's in his nature
I think his feelings for Shannon were similar, we see him fall to similar old habits after her death. He's fine with having tortured Henry Gale. I think the difference is that Sayid's actions with Nadia, similar to Shannon, is something he justified to himself, in both cases it was to protect those he cared about. Him torturing Sawyer, to help Shannon, is him justifying his actions with the service of helping someone.
I hate it.
@@DanY-gx2dv I didn't cause this is who he always was
22:14 He should have remembered the second rule: double tap.
Wouldn't have changed anything if he did :/
@@Immallama22 What are you guys talking about?
@@busimagen I've had enough of those damn walkers!! LMAO
22:11 Oh my god, this beats even everything, I hoped for! You should see your faces!
What an awesome reaction - AGAIN! So glad, you didn't see that coming and no one spoiled it for you....
"he can either poof!"... "No bro he dead, dead". LoL I love this Lost trio.
When you realize Radzinsky spent the next 30 years pressing a button..
Every 108 minutes...
And for a good chunk of that alone..
He was already crazy af before that.
22:25 *You killed Appa!!!!! NOOOOOOO*
For Hitler you don't have to kill him. Just go "hey kid, your art kicks ass. Keep it up. Don't let those teachers tell ya what ya can't do!"
Ben was never "baby Hitler".
Sayid inadvertently made Ben the way he is. If he never shot him, he wouldn’t be resurrected and turn into a sociopath.
For those out there old enough to remember 80s TV; did any of you, when you first saw Oldham emerge from his shelter, expect two mute guys to follow him; only to have him say "Hi! I'm Larry! (gesturing to the one guy)This is my brother Darrell,(...then to the other...) and this is my other brother Daryl!"
Newhart 🧡
yes lol.. and Ben's father .(I think) is the same guy that plays Napoleon Dynomite's uncle.
I always assumed that the "Truth Serum" was simply LSD or some other psychedelic substance.
yeah I think it was used in history as truth serum. Would explain why he used sugar
Idk with LSD you're either still conscious enough to know how to lie, or not conscious enough to make any sense at all, I don't think there's any uG of acid that would result in it being a truth serum
@@infam0usalal184 this is exactly why they stopped using it
@@LMarti13 I assumed so
@@LMarti13 and damn this was a year ago, I should re watch Lost
22:50 What doOOess it MeeEEan?! lmao Suraj was all of us! Man Lost keeps gettin better and better! Roll on the next reaction!
8:12 Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!! I think I just caught the very first glimpse of my favourite Jack, right here! This is the way he's supposed to be. My hero. My Jack...
Jack's development is very underrated but it's really well done. S5-S6 is best Jack for sure
Idk if I'm the only one noticing this but the last couple videos I've watched from you guys have had some flickering in them and glitching out no matter which device I watch them on.
9:30 -- nicholas: "u gotta clean that up. u dumb a' hell" DEAD 😭
Im getting flashbacks to Season 2 when Michael killed Analucia and Libby. This scene is up there in Lost most shocking scenes. 😁
DON'T TAZE HIM, BRO!!!
Suraj was cracking me up after the episode!😂🤣
“What does it mean?!” I started saying whatever happened, happened without even remembering it was the name of the next episode.
I L❤VE seeing these girls' reactions to this show. Reminds me of how confused I was at the time 😁
Nikki and Rana are the fucking best. I live for their reactions to this show.
I was watching Rana freak out and then Suraj is staring dead into the camera like he was looking directly into our souls that scared the living daylights out of me @22:26
The sunglasses are the best addition to these reactions since Rana went full time
Horace will always just be Percy Wetmore from The Green Mile, for me, I can't unsee it.
I felt exactly the same. Until countless rewatches of Lost cured me.
Gotta admit though, he was so fucking awesome as Percy...
omg without jokes i never noticed its the same actor.. xD
GENIUS!! :D
To me he'll always be the liver-eating immortal from The X-Files.
@@Melancthon7332 Absolutely. Tooms.
any character: *falls and scrapes their knee*
nikki and rana: welp they're dead now.
I know this season is crazy with the time jumping but I really think this season is really solid overall, and it is really underrated.
It’s the best season
My favorite season
rxtsec1 yesssssss thank you!!!! Same!
'tens of thousands of millions' ? This could probably be a thing in a parallel universe.
Rana: “I want a guy (that’s not my boyfriend Nahid) to buy me $120 drink”
Rana: “Men always get the wrong idea”
since the main plot is "whatever happens, happened already," i would of said, good missdirect attempt lost, but somehow he survives, otherwise none of "future ben" would of happened. next.
Pointless fact of the day:
My IRL boss is called Hurley and he is a fat millionaire. Unfortunately, his every other characteristic is more in line with Benjamin Linus
😡
Gotta give credit where credit is due. Suraj show uncharacteristic restraint through most of this viewing. For the most part, he was able to curb his instinct to mansplain things. 10:23 Here, he even went as far as asking if his mansplanation was necessary. Of course, Rana effectively said "no" and he tried to mumble some mansplanation anyway. And 11:33 here, when Nikki was merely asking about the nature of that drug they injected Sayid with, Suraj decided to mansplain something she wasn't even asking about and started giving the "history" between the "hostiles" and the Dharma Initiative.
But overall, he was much, much better and against his "better" instincts, more respectful to the first-time viewers.
Something something, let's put Person of Interest on the schedule.
LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN PEOPLE
Yep, same reaction I had watching it way back then. lol
BTW If you have Netflix but not Hulu (only available in the US), you can use a VPN and connect to the Indian, Japanese, South Korean, Thai or Singaporean server!!
Next weeks episode is probably my favorite Kate episode maybe. I go back & forth between whatever happened happened & I Do
However, many life saving medicines and procedures and scientific discoveries came about because of WWII. Also remember what Eloise told Desmond about time having a way of course correcting itself
Look at how Nikki looks at Suraj at 5:50 lol deathstare
lol ben didnt kill the dharma people, in season 4 ben said it wasnt his call, because he wasnt the leader. it was either join the others or die with the dharma.
Written by: Edward Kitsis &
Adam Horowitz
Directed by: Greg Yaitanes
27:15 I feel like this is a massive self-report
What? That just broke the thing we're supposed to believe in.... sigh, girls, what did Dan say? Whatever happened, happened. ye of little faith. I know this is an old reaction and they finished this whole thing a long time ago, this is actually my second time watching the reactions. This time through I'm noticing a lot more goofy shit than I did the first time. lol. I really liked Nikki the first time, she's annoying me a little this time through, lol.
5:33 I think this was one of the four scenes, that they didn't shoot on Hawaii. But I could be wrong about that...
Look how lost Sayid seems though, I think this was the turning point for me, when I stopped liking him...
The only scenes they didn't film in Hawaii were Widmore's in London in season 4 (and the season 5 premiere I think) and some street and hospital scenes in LA in the s3 finale (Jack's flashforwards). The rest including this episode were all filmed in Hawaii.
Honestly, they could've just said that Sayid was part of their crew back when they came to Darmaville and that he had been lost in the jungle on the hostiles' turf for 3 years or something. Or Sawyer could've just came clean and convinced them he was a good guy. There were a bunch of ways to do this that lead to not torturing him possibly making him spill the beans on Sawyer and the rest and putting them in more danger than if they just came clean.
It was Sayid's fault for being a dumbass. All he had to do was join the Dharma Initiate and follow Sawyer's plan. He kept refusing and being laid back about everything, leading to this chain of events.
Sayid had his own plans
@@x-man9473 Yeah that is true also. I just mean there are tons of ways this could've worked.
@@r3zuri Yeah true. I don't know why he would automatically just call him a hostile like that other than to make some sort of problem for the plot. He was so aggressive to the guy before, but now he is afraid to just tell him that he was part of their crew or something. He could've just said to him that he thought he was dead all this time. Sayid is a good enough liar to play along too. Oh well I love Lost anyways.
If there was ever a doubt that season 5 was the best... this episode wiped that out. Season 5 is the best ever!
its more mystical than season 1- mid of season 3. but i also like the timetravel stuff. but i dont like season 6 so much. its the worst of all of them IMO. Best of Season 6 was the man in black actor to me.
Nah
It's difficult to pick a favourite season for me because they're all quite different
he snuck in that lil wayne reference
15:27 Yes. This.
as an arab, i understand what Sayid says in Arabic hehe(i’m iraqi too)
Are there a lot of Arabs that really don't like Arab/Islamic society? Rana looked like she had some rage in her about it. Unlike the right-wing in America, I don't judge each individual Muslim, or person from the Middle East. But, also - unlike my fellow progressives - I find it hard to defend Islamic culture as it seems antithetical the liberal values. But that's also how I feel about Judaism and Evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics. What irritates me about my fellow Christians, they aren't very Christlike. Although, as I understand it, when it comes to taking care of the poor and the sick... Muslims are of the same mind as Jews, and true Christians.
please, you guys need to see dark, seriously!!!!!
Remember what ever happened, happened think about it 🤔
That look of surprise.
Rezenske 😂😂😂😂😂😂 i hate his guts
I love Ben❤
22:08 And here.... we.... go
Hurley totally knew talking about Sawyer and Juliet being together would be awkward. He was having some fun with them.
RIP Benjamin "Ben" Linus
Yeah, complicated science of Lost just fucked all our minds back then... Of course the easy answer could still be: ...Whatever happened, happened....
Another Deadwood connection. Never noticed him before
I have those same sunglasses.
Man, Sayid had got a lot of things wrong about Ben. And he tried to murder the latter . . . for nothing.
Another member of the 12 rings from Ironman.
Girl in the middle, looks best without makeup
I dunno why we are so willing to write all of sayid’s misdeeds off as “being manipulated by Ben”
Because Sayid is one of the show's main protagonists and Ben was the show's first (or second) antagonist that remained longer than a few episodes. Some fans were being biased.
Lol why did they immediately assumed Ben was dead? Like, how many times in this show people got shot and survived? And why did the girl in the middle start talking about a new timeline being created or Ben dissapearing in the future when up to this point the show has already established that there's only one timeline and you can go foward and backwards but never create another one??? And also, "what happened, happened" and it CANT be changed, so all of this had already happened in the past of adult Ben and so did the events from the rest of the characters future. Meaning that nothing they do during time travel can affect any of that. How is that so hard to understand? :/
Sunglasses were a great idea!
This two are my favorites Normies ❤️
She'd miss Hitler and then Hitler would be really angry anyway.
Namaste, my friends.
Awesome shades Suraj
He's Our You aka Here's Where Sayid's Arc Goes to Utter Shite.
I wish someone brought the Sayid "I'm Batman" meme back...
Batman doesn't kill
19:47 ....LOST?!
Suraj @ 23:26 LOOOOL hahahahahaha
Why do people always ask if you would go back in time and kill hilter. How about go back in time and try to make him a better person? I dont think most people could shoot a baby. Also realistically if you did kill him, we wouldnt exist because of the butterfly effect.
lol the reactions to radzinky are hilarious
i didn't know nikki doesn't like thehundred!i didn't know i could love her more than i already do!
Sawyer's nicknames in this episode :
"H" for Horace
"Stu" for Radzinsky
"Sweet Kid" for Young Ben
"Chief" for Sayid
"Our You" for Oldham
"Psychopath" for Oldham
Nikki is on 5th season of GoT? Oh the things she has seen!!
Haha yeah she's not a phased as she was anymore. You can tell GoT has slightly hardened her.
I hope they record the season finale of s5. I would love to see her react to for the watch
They rly should record that
I really don't like Sayid after Seasons 5 and 6. He used to be one my favorites in earlier seasons but the way the writing handles him is just... Not good.
He turns into an unlikable and unreasonable asshat for most of the remainder of the series, for absolutely no reason. None of his calm/cold attitutde in face of dire situations, no concern for his companions which was one of his defining traits, and honestly none of his brains either.
That said this is still a great episode with a great ending.
Nice shades Suraj
Brown Wick? Kind of weird.
Sayid was annoying in this season. His refusal to go along with Sawyer's plans. Him killing Ben. I hated his character at this point
Sayid, Kate, and Sawyer made Ben the evil that he is
Just spent my whole night after getting home from work watching you guys watching lost so cool love you guys especially rana thank u Suraj wish I could follow you guys but I only got Facebook no Instagram Evangeline Lilly is a incredible person.
I love when you guys speak other languages. I wish I were as cool as Rana!
I'ma ask every week if I can marry Nikki. I swear I love Hurley.
Poor Ben
Can we all just take a second to recognize Radzinsky is also mr sikowitz 🙌🏻
I couldn’t take him seriously because all I could see was Sikowitz the whole time
press 4, for BEN in woman monster voice
to the true losties: Isnt the actor that plays oldham the same one that sells Hurley his scooter when he is in the aiport and has to make his flight in season 1??
I always think that he is played by the same actor.
He died back in 2013.
The Scooter Guy's Actor, I mean.
Oldham is played by veteran character actor Willian Sanderson from Bladerunner (1982) and Deadwood series. He was also Larry, of Larry, Darryl and the other brother Darryl of the Newhart series.
No.
@@Hatziman "Darryl, my other brother Darryl." Lol! Loved that. My mother used to watch it when I was a kid. That line, repeated every episode, and the very awesome series finale is all I really remember. But the actor also played the Sheriff of Bon Temps on True Blood for a few seasons. Then the show diverged significantly from the books, and he ended up becoming a season villain. I hear they're working on a reboot. True Blood's series finale was really awful, in hindsight. Just like the last 3 seasons. Lost is still my favorite series finale.
Looks like J.F. Sebastian stole Tyrell's glasses.
You guys should watch sml, i know ita not a series but you should
SNL? Saturday night live? Reacting to that would be boring tbh
@@shortstuff780 no, i said sml
@@shortstuff780 super mario logan, its like an adult plush show
@@Rscreen oh, I thought you mistyped. That's why I was confused
I love Nikki's reaction, but she was so annoying about hurley
One of the few plot holes in the show: An experienced assassin like sayid not being able to kill Ben.
ujustgotlittup it’s like Farraday said, “everything that’s supposed to happen, will.”
You were right about me, I am a killer
Suraj, you are not Corey Hart. You have neither the charisma nor the poise.
Damn Sergey how u gonna let that girl do you like that all episode 😂
Ofcourse I would NOT kill Hitler as a child. I would be AFRAID of the Butterfly-Effect
hahahahahahahahahahaha...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
I kinda missed the old Sawyer not this Dharma shit thing..this season is getting annoying
"Who's Ann Arbor?" jesus christ....
I don't know either, pls explain
bongokhrusha Ann Arbor, Michigan. As Suraj says.