I love the conversations between Hurley and Miles. There's something super satisfying about finally understanding the mechanics of this kind of predeterministic time travel.
They freak out about Lockes smug look at the end. I wonder if they noticed how shocked and frightened Ben looked at seeing John alive. That's one of the rare times that you see Ben not in any sort of control and having completely no idea what's going on.
Stop the Kate Hate!! 12:59 can happen to anyone, kids are tricky you take your eyes off them for a second and bam they gone. Trust me ive worked with kids most of my life, shes not a bad mum for looking at her phone for a second and when kate was saying bye to Aaron, man that was some emotionally draining shit, oooft!
Kate wasn't a fucking mother! She was a kidnapper who kept an innocent boy from his grandmother for selfish reasons . . . for nearly three fucking years!
This is the episode where I totally fell in love with Kate. It was like she was redeemed for every stupid thing she ever did. Love this story arc for Kate.
Goodwin's wife to Juliet: ''Ben likes you because you remind him of *her*'' At the time this aired I assumed she meant Ben's mother but after this episode I thought Juliet reminded him of the woman that saved his life back in '77...but would he have remembered her?
@@denizcakrhan5318 no idea. Maybe Ben pointed her out on the Dharma photograph, not seeing any reason why it would be the same woman looking the same after 30 years.
That's an interesting idea. Ben will have been returned to the Dharmas after being healed at the temple, by the time Juliet would have "left" but people might tell him about her efforts to help him. We don't know how much contact she had with Ben over the three years but her picture is part of Dharma documentation of 1974. The question for me is whether Harper would have the same access to pictures of Ben's mum, who had nothing to do with Dharma and if those pictures exist they would be personal affects of her son.
This is MY Jack in development. He's my favourite character of all time! Also love his line, when Juliet asked him, why he was supposed to come back: "I don't know yet!" 😍 He has so much trust in the Island, because during those 3 years, he felt that something deep down his core was missing and calling back for him!
I swear Kate just talks to Sawyer or Jack and she's 'jumping from man to man' to these people, she's allowed to speak to them normally, plus she hasn't made one move on trying to seduce or kiss Sawyer since she came back to the island, but you guys keep hating on her for even speaking to him, plus her and Jack were engaged, I don't think her having sex and finding comfort with him shows she 'jumps from man to man'.
The problem is that for the last 4/5 seasons it's what she allways did. Everytime she was with jack, turns out she liked sawyer more and switched to him. When she was with sawyer, turns out she loved jack more! She kisses jack and one day later she's chasing sawyer. She kisses sawyer and one day later she's chasing jack. Ffs!!! She's been jumping around since the show started. She's been kissing and fucking sawyer and finds out jack and juliet are together and what's her reaction? Looks down all sad and is jealous everytime she sees them together and wants jack back. She's about to marry jack because apparently jack is her true love, things go bad, few years later finds out sawyer and juliet are happy and together and what's her reaction? Looks down all sad. That is why everytime she is talking to one of them people just get annoyed. If you love two guys and they love you back, choose one or dont choose any! Dont be jumping around depending on the day you are having. Those type of people are despicable.
THANK YOU. It's so immature. Two adults can talk to each other, it doesn't have to be like that. This is Lost. This isn't Love Island. Grow up and stop being a bully.
No, I totally knew the phrase whatever happens, happens through my life. In fact, I also noticed the episode title and thought, neat, they flipped it to past-tense. I associate the context as a sort of... before you choose to, or are obligated to, need to, etc. Do something... especially something that could be dangerous, or risky, heroic, anything: whatever happens, happens. Can't guarentee the outcome, gotta accept it, and still try.
Honestly if you watch Ben in season 2-4 and imagine he's thinking "so these are the fuck ups who were running around when i was a child" his character makes a LOT more sense. .....i know thats not the case but i wish it was
Who are these Suraj haters? If he left these reactions again I don't know if I personally could continue to watch them. People need to chill. He's not doing anything bad.
Suraj: (is in reactions) People: Ugh go away. he needs to stop spoiling stuff! Suraj: (is not in reactoins) People: noooooo come back! we need the inclusion of a Lostie's perspective!
Undisputed Watch again when it was just those two. They were great. Watching LOST like how I and many others did back in the day having no idea what’s going on and not turning to someone who knew what happened. Suraj has done a good job of not giving much away, but I liked it when it was just the girls letting their imagination and theories run unhindered and not turning to Suraj for hints. If that makes me a masochist in your own head, then so be it.
10:07 I was literally taking a sip of water when Suraj said this and the water came out my nose and sprayed onto my phone. This might be tmi but I don’t care because now my nose and throat is burning but I regret nothing 😂😂😂
You should keep this group to watch The Leftovers or Person of Interest! Either would be amazing. (Person of Interest is a Bad Robot show, starring Michael Emerson aka Ben in his other greatest role ever, created by Jonathan Nolan who also made Westworld and wrote most of his brother's movies, which has a similarly epic scope as LOST)
I still don't understand why people hate Kate so much?? Look at her character development man. She went on the island to find Claire, the mother of the kid she loves the most in this world. And she knew if she brought back Claire she would lose Aaron but still she brought her back anyway!!
Everybody hates her because she's so manipulative...when she's with Jack she acts like she loves him...when with Sawyer she does the same...she ruined both Sawyer and Jack's life
Exactly. I don't always agree with the things that Kate does but I definitely don't hate her. And the same goes for Jack and Sawyer. A lot of these characters have done stupid things but Nikki will always hate Kate no matter what.
It's nice of you to acknowledge Kate's decision to return Aaron, without bothering to point out that she had kidnapped him and kept him from his grandmother for nearly 3 years in the first place by lying. But that's just one of my issues with Kate. I have issues with nearly all of the characters.
wow my reaction was completely different. I was horrified that Sayid attempted to murder a child and I was pissed at Jack for not trying to save him. Granted I have a soft spot for children and I have zero tolerance for doctors allowing harm (Jack allowing Sayid to torture Sawyer) or not trying to save people.
@@anathema2me4EVR Congrats. Your self-congratulatory moral sensibility kills everyone in the Dharma Initiative. You already saw the mass grave. You watched the boy gas his own father to death. It has been patiently explained by the show there can be no redemption.
They didn't show when Roger yelled "That's my kid!" :( He is such an ass most of the time, but that shows that he does care about Ben deep down. (When he isn't drunk) lol
@@YourBuddyTom01 He just wanted pity, and probably someone else to take the blame, that is why he is so fixated on Kate who is just trying to be nice. I am surprised she had so much patience with him, considering what she did to Wayne who was the same type of father.
@@MarieAnne. a lot of people need to get over it. I didn't realize the hate for til well after the show ended even though the first hint I got was her season 6 what Kate does episode which isn't that bad to me. I never disliked her even though she's not one of my favorites either.
What I found irritating about a lot of LOSt fans were their inability to understand that most or nearly all of the characters were seriously flawed. Yet, for years, they had demanded that the leads behave in an ideal or nearly ideal manner.
It's a little frustrating how they nitpick at Kate so much, no matter what she does. Even if other characters end up doing the exact same (selfish/reckless/questionable) things! Also, Sayid and Jack had just as much of a hand in creating the modern Benjamin Linus as Sawyer and Kate did.
Kate had deserved the nitpicking, considering she had literally kidnapped Aaron using a lie. And the other Oceanic Six deserved to be condemned for supporting her lie or remaining silent.
Nikki is annoying with the Kate hate. I understand that she doesn't like her but is the mocking and shit talking necessary? Suraj doesn't like Kate but he doesn't act like Nikki. She sounds like a bully.
Yeah, Kate don't ask questions! Keep your woman mouth shut and let the men handle the business! It's so annoying how she wants to actually know what's going on and isn't content to just sit around and do nothing to contribute. Pfft...Where does she get off? SERIOUSLY??? Y'all continue to be extra as hell whenever Kate so much as breathes in the wrong direction. She isn't even allowed to talk to a man without you all assuming she's trying to seduce him. WTF?
I'm honestly so tired of the hate she gets for absolutely everything she does and their reaction to her simply being kind to Ben's father proves how ridiculous and nonsensical it is. It reminds me of Sansa haters in the GOT fandom
@@artemis2569 if y'all are what "real" feminists are it explains why the movement is dying. Can't even criticize or hate a female character without getting labeled as a "Non Feminist" or "Sexist".
I found the conversation with Miles and Hurley so drawn out, like the explanation for what kind of time-travel it was came weeks ago, how could anyone not be following it?
@@tariqguellil3777 Yeah, but I kinda wished I could've watched it live. Now I have no one to talk about it with, can't join fan groups, cause spoilers and even though I'm careful, I've seen a few big spoilers.
NO, it's not on Kate and Sawyer for wanting to save a then innocent boy. It's all on Benjamin for his own actions, he is the one responsible for his own sins.
Yeah, and if they want to blame them they should also blame Jack for leaving them no choice in the first place by refusing to save an innocent kids life.
@@x-man9473 Its no one's fault. Nothing would've changed, no matter what they would've done or not, because "whatever happened, happened" and Ben was going to become the psycopath he is as an adult anyways. And you can also argue that if Ben wouldnt had been so horrible with them in the first place then Sayid would've never had the motivations to try to kill him as a kid or Jack wouldnt have refused to save him.
@@samb.6147 Right. But in this case "it happened" because of Sayid's stupidity. None of his logic makes any sense here. He gets captured and refuses to work with his friends (Sawyer, Jack, Kate, etc) who are trying to get him freed because...reasons. Then Sawyer lets him go to stop him from getting murdered, and Sayid refuses. Then Ben frees him, and the first thing going through his head is to murder him? I was so happy that Sayid got shot.
One of my VERY FEW criticisms of LOST is the Sayid shooting Ben storyline and the way they explain him not remembering. It was a loop for the sake of a loop with a cop-out answer. Anyone else?
At 11:30 I'm pretty sure the whole point of that scene was because Ben didn't remember Sayid which was a plothole, so they wanted to kinda poke fun at it lol
Mole Hansman do you know how it might happened that Ben just went back to his camp after getting healed and kill his people when he grew up? Like what did people do when he came back to the camp or how did he go back to the camp?
Cassidy did nothing but project onto Kate; SHE was the one still hung up on Sawyer. Hell, everyone on the show is hung up on Skate EXCEPT Kate. The sexism in her (and Juliet's) writing is LOST's biggest flaw.
YES! Exactly. That's how I have always felt about what Cassidy said. It was so out of left field and not at all what we had been seeing from Kate. It was exactly how CASSIDY felt.
I just realized the time travel mechanic of this show is almost the same with Avenger's Endgame. They say the same lines. If you go to the past, that past becomes your present and the future is now the past.
Going through a rewatch with you guys and is Nikki looking fire this episode!!!!!!! We see you, in the past in the future. I guess that works with this season lol
yes, Rena the typical saying is whatever happens happens but that's talking about what is going to happen doesn't matter. this is talking about the past what happened happened is like saying what's done is done
When I saw Avengers: Endgame, I thought about this episode. The only thing that Lost didn't do is mentioning different realities. But people we're still confused lol.
Hurley can be such a stupid man sometimes. Ben did not force anyone to return to the island. You guys actually supported Sayid's attempt to kill Ben and Jack's decision not to save him? I find that low and disgusting. Jack's decision was disgusting. He really proved in this episode what a monster he can be. And once again, Kate had no damn business keeping Aaron for herself. She managed to realize this. Why can't you? What is it with you guys? You don't recognize moral failure when you see it? Or are you one of those types who judge other characters based on your personal biases? Like Ben or Michael? Speaking of Ben, he did not order the DHARMA purge. Charles Widmore did. It's official.
Wish we could’ve gotten some extra clips of everyone’s reactions meeting the dharma people, like Sawyers reaction to meeting Roger Workman in person, and Hurleys reaction!!
Roger's concern for the son who will soon murder him and everyone he knows is ironic. Do any if these folks know child Ben kills everyone? Locke would know but he's not there.
"I don't like this; that's Roger Workman!" Well, to keep her from boredom, he can set up the camera and tape himself throwing some passes with the island's only football. (I hope most of you will get this)
Isn't Just Sawyer and Kate that cost Ben his innocence. I think the island wanted jack to heal him but Jack refused. Jack was supposed to do the operation.
@Eric Burkheimer Because that Thanos showed up in the present timeline. He became a duplicate, a remnant, he's in a timeline where he shouldn't be. So his death didn't affect anything just like the Past Nebula's death. Also they were already in a branch timeline since two stones from their timeline has been taken: Power and Soul. So when Cap returned the stones, that specific timeline where that Thanos came from is no longer exist. It's a loophole. At least, that's my take on it.
Kate was not one of the worst characters on the show. But because she was the leading female characters, many tried to make excuses or turn a blind eye to her worst crimes.
So Richard saved Ben and Ben went back to his camp and when he grew up he killed all of his people? How did this even happen? Like how did the people at the camp react Ben coming back like wtf
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I love the conversations between Hurley and Miles. There's something super satisfying about finally understanding the mechanics of this kind of predeterministic time travel.
Except Hurley would've understood. I get he's the proxy for the audience but it still felt out of character to me.
They freak out about Lockes smug look at the end. I wonder if they noticed how shocked and frightened Ben looked at seeing John alive. That's one of the rare times that you see Ben not in any sort of control and having completely no idea what's going on.
It’s been slowly happening this season but this episode is when jack took the full turn to becoming like John Locke
They must have one magical couch over at Normie Central--spring or autumn on the left, winter in the center and summer on the right. 😉
Stop the Kate Hate!! 12:59 can happen to anyone, kids are tricky you take your eyes off them for a second and bam they gone. Trust me ive worked with kids most of my life, shes not a bad mum for looking at her phone for a second and when kate was saying bye to Aaron, man that was some emotionally draining shit, oooft!
Kate wasn't a fucking mother! She was a kidnapper who kept an innocent boy from his grandmother for selfish reasons . . . for nearly three fucking years!
This is the episode where I totally fell in love with Kate. It was like she was redeemed for every stupid thing she ever did. Love this story arc for Kate.
Kate's actions weren't stupid. They were selfish . . . and in the case of her father, murderous.
Kate SUCKS -- she is the WORST
@@DRush76 Bit of both. Throughout her time on the island, she did plenty of stupid things which compromised everyone else
"He'll forget this ever happened" that's how he forget about ever saw sayid, I think
Goodwin's wife to Juliet: ''Ben likes you because you remind him of *her*''
At the time this aired I assumed she meant Ben's mother but after this episode I thought Juliet reminded him of the woman that saved his life back in '77...but would he have remembered her?
Brendan Mc but how do you think Goodwins wife knew who saved Ben’s life looked like at 77?
@@denizcakrhan5318 no idea. Maybe Ben pointed her out on the Dharma photograph, not seeing any reason why it would be the same woman looking the same after 30 years.
That's an interesting idea. Ben will have been returned to the Dharmas after being healed at the temple, by the time Juliet would have "left" but people might tell him about her efforts to help him. We don't know how much contact she had with Ben over the three years but her picture is part of Dharma documentation of 1974. The question for me is whether Harper would have the same access to pictures of Ben's mum, who had nothing to do with Dharma and if those pictures exist they would be personal affects of her son.
I love Jack's Ivan Drago moment.. "then he dies"
This is MY Jack in development. He's my favourite character of all time! Also love his line, when Juliet asked him, why he was supposed to come back: "I don't know yet!" 😍
He has so much trust in the Island, because during those 3 years, he felt that something deep down his core was missing and calling back for him!
I swear Kate just talks to Sawyer or Jack and she's 'jumping from man to man' to these people, she's allowed to speak to them normally, plus she hasn't made one move on trying to seduce or kiss Sawyer since she came back to the island, but you guys keep hating on her for even speaking to him, plus her and Jack were engaged, I don't think her having sex and finding comfort with him shows she 'jumps from man to man'.
The problem is that for the last 4/5 seasons it's what she allways did. Everytime she was with jack, turns out she liked sawyer more and switched to him. When she was with sawyer, turns out she loved jack more! She kisses jack and one day later she's chasing sawyer. She kisses sawyer and one day later she's chasing jack. Ffs!!! She's been jumping around since the show started. She's been kissing and fucking sawyer and finds out jack and juliet are together and what's her reaction? Looks down all sad and is jealous everytime she sees them together and wants jack back.
She's about to marry jack because apparently jack is her true love, things go bad, few years later finds out sawyer and juliet are happy and together and what's her reaction? Looks down all sad.
That is why everytime she is talking to one of them people just get annoyed.
If you love two guys and they love you back, choose one or dont choose any! Dont be jumping around depending on the day you are having. Those type of people are despicable.
THANK YOU. It's so immature. Two adults can talk to each other, it doesn't have to be like that. This is Lost. This isn't Love Island. Grow up and stop being a bully.
Kate's best episode.
Agreed, her best episode and probably Evangeline Lilly’s best performance in the show.
Excited for next week. One of the shows absolute best.
Rana : You guys are the ones that made Ben! No!! You did dis!!
Me : I fucking love Rana.
dude, the next 6 episodes are going to be lit reactions
No, I totally knew the phrase whatever happens, happens through my life. In fact, I also noticed the episode title and thought, neat, they flipped it to past-tense.
I associate the context as a sort of... before you choose to, or are obligated to, need to, etc. Do something... especially something that could be dangerous, or risky, heroic, anything: whatever happens, happens. Can't guarentee the outcome, gotta accept it, and still try.
Gosh, I'm not seen a more one dimensional reactor as Nikki before. No wonder she's not a regular one
Honestly if you watch Ben in season 2-4 and imagine he's thinking "so these are the fuck ups who were running around when i was a child" his character makes a LOT more sense.
.....i know thats not the case but i wish it was
Who are these Suraj haters? If he left these reactions again I don't know if I personally could continue to watch them. People need to chill. He's not doing anything bad.
Suraj: (is in reactions)
People: Ugh go away. he needs to stop spoiling stuff!
Suraj: (is not in reactoins)
People: noooooo come back! we need the inclusion of a Lostie's perspective!
I agree. I enjoy watching Suraj's reaction to the girls reaction. Two reactions in one.
Undisputed
Not hating Suraj, but I liked it when it was just Nikki and Rana.
@@cruman87 You must be a masochist.
Undisputed
Watch again when it was just those two. They were great. Watching LOST like how I and many others did back in the day having no idea what’s going on and not turning to someone who knew what happened. Suraj has done a good job of not giving much away, but I liked it when it was just the girls letting their imagination and theories run unhindered and not turning to Suraj for hints. If that makes me a masochist in your own head, then so be it.
God, no wonder Ben grew up never trusting anyone.
10:07
I was literally taking a sip of water when Suraj said this and the water came out my nose and sprayed onto my phone. This might be tmi but I don’t care because now my nose and throat is burning but I regret nothing 😂😂😂
You should keep this group to watch The Leftovers or Person of Interest! Either would be amazing. (Person of Interest is a Bad Robot show, starring Michael Emerson aka Ben in his other greatest role ever, created by Jonathan Nolan who also made Westworld and wrote most of his brother's movies, which has a similarly epic scope as LOST)
I still don't understand why people hate Kate so much?? Look at her character development man. She went on the island to find Claire, the mother of the kid she loves the most in this world. And she knew if she brought back Claire she would lose Aaron but still she brought her back anyway!!
Everybody hates her because she's so manipulative...when she's with Jack she acts like she loves him...when with Sawyer she does the same...she ruined both Sawyer and Jack's life
Exactly. I don't always agree with the things that Kate does but I definitely don't hate her. And the same goes for Jack and Sawyer. A lot of these characters have done stupid things but Nikki will always hate Kate no matter what.
Just like AmericanMum hates Ben through and through!! LOL 😂
It's nice of you to acknowledge Kate's decision to return Aaron, without bothering to point out that she had kidnapped him and kept him from his grandmother for nearly 3 years in the first place by lying. But that's just one of my issues with Kate. I have issues with nearly all of the characters.
@juanitajones6900 but Claire was going to give him up for adoption so his grandmother wouldn't have seen him anyway
wow my reaction was completely different. I was horrified that Sayid attempted to murder a child and I was pissed at Jack for not trying to save him. Granted I have a soft spot for children and I have zero tolerance for doctors allowing harm (Jack allowing Sayid to torture Sawyer) or not trying to save people.
Shiny.Ruka same! i was so shocked that they were on jacks side here :S
The power of television that it can make adults so dehumanised that they cheer the potential murder of children.
That child murders half the people in the island pretty soon so I wasn't too worried about his welfare
@@anathema2me4EVR Congrats. Your self-congratulatory moral sensibility kills everyone in the Dharma Initiative. You already saw the mass grave. You watched the boy gas his own father to death. It has been patiently explained by the show there can be no redemption.
@@anathema2me4EVR Shut up, you're a fucking dumbass
They didn't show when Roger yelled "That's my kid!" :( He is such an ass most of the time, but that shows that he does care about Ben deep down. (When he isn't drunk) lol
Yeah when he’s sober he can fake being a good dad
@@YourBuddyTom01 He just wanted pity, and probably someone else to take the blame, that is why he is so fixated on Kate who is just trying to be nice. I am surprised she had so much patience with him, considering what she did to Wayne who was the same type of father.
Don’t listen to haters Suraj. Your reactions are just as entertaining. You’re our avatar here
I love y'all.
But lay off the Kate hate😂
3:49 "Oh, it's a *her* episode?..."
and one of the best episodes
>it's a *her* episode
@@MarieAnne. a lot of people need to get over it. I didn't realize the hate for til well after the show ended even though the first hint I got was her season 6 what Kate does episode which isn't that bad to me. I never disliked her even though she's not one of my favorites either.
Nikki is so stupid.... She really gets on my nerves.
@@theinejghafa calling her stupid is to far. She has a right to her thoughts & she liked the episode anyway
What I found irritating about a lot of LOSt fans were their inability to understand that most or nearly all of the characters were seriously flawed. Yet, for years, they had demanded that the leads behave in an ideal or nearly ideal manner.
I don’t know if it’s something she’s picked up from him or had, but Nikki’s laugh when Suraj sees what she did with the figures is exactly like his.
It's a little frustrating how they nitpick at Kate so much, no matter what she does. Even if other characters end up doing the exact same (selfish/reckless/questionable) things! Also, Sayid and Jack had just as much of a hand in creating the modern Benjamin Linus as Sawyer and Kate did.
Kate had deserved the nitpicking, considering she had literally kidnapped Aaron using a lie. And the other Oceanic Six deserved to be condemned for supporting her lie or remaining silent.
I love Kate
This was the first episode that I liked Kate since season 1
Nikki literally has the same reactions every time lmao
i love her reactions
"YO! YO!!! DUDE!!!! WHAT?!?!?" I love her.
Kate going back to island to find Claire was a good choice for her to do.
Nikki is annoying with the Kate hate. I understand that she doesn't like her but is the mocking and shit talking necessary? Suraj doesn't like Kate but he doesn't act like Nikki. She sounds like a bully.
She is. She has that instant prejudice which is so annoying. She's like that with Ben too.
Nikki had always sounded like mean girl, like an actual bully
Spot on. It's deeply ironic because she claims to "hate bullies" in an early episode. Gaze long enough into the abyss I guess...
@@LMarti13 Well said.
I really wish they were to do 2 a week
they do multiple shows so I think that's why cause they have a lot on there plate
@@rxtsec1 yeh i know just wishful thinking, lost is just one of them shows
To do 2
Jeremy Bearimy, thy name is LOST.
Yeah, Kate don't ask questions! Keep your woman mouth shut and let the men handle the business! It's so annoying how she wants to actually know what's going on and isn't content to just sit around and do nothing to contribute. Pfft...Where does she get off? SERIOUSLY??? Y'all continue to be extra as hell whenever Kate so much as breathes in the wrong direction. She isn't even allowed to talk to a man without you all assuming she's trying to seduce him. WTF?
I'm honestly so tired of the hate she gets for absolutely everything she does and their reaction to her simply being kind to Ben's father proves how ridiculous and nonsensical it is.
It reminds me of Sansa haters in the GOT fandom
Exactly!
STFU
And to think that they are declared feminists...I don't think so!
@@artemis2569 if y'all are what "real" feminists are it explains why the movement is dying. Can't even criticize or hate a female character without getting labeled as a "Non Feminist" or "Sexist".
This is the best Kate episode! Really heartbreaking scene with Aaron and her :(
I wasn't crying. I don't cry when kidnappers give up their victims.
I found the conversation with Miles and Hurley so drawn out, like the explanation for what kind of time-travel it was came weeks ago, how could anyone not be following it?
Roger Workman... Aka Uncle Rico
Bye bye, baby
Hello, baby
So, if Jack had saved Ben, Ben wouldn't be the asshole he is. But well, it all had to happen, otherwise they would stop existing XD
After five seasons, Kate finally had a purpose and became an alright character.
NOPE
The rest of the season is so good.
Can't wait to see it! I'm watching it first time along with the reactions 😁
@@zornitsadimitrova1741 you're so lucky
@@tariqguellil3777 Yeah, but I kinda wished I could've watched it live. Now I have no one to talk about it with, can't join fan groups, cause spoilers and even though I'm careful, I've seen a few big spoilers.
@@zornitsadimitrova1741 omg you're gonna love what happens next! (at least i did). thread carefully on yt bc spoilers are EVERYWHEREEE.
I love the expressions that Serge makes when he sees a line that indicates the foreseeable future
Don't give a damn what anyone says. I love Kate If you have a problem with her character, hate the writers. Kate hate is so nauseating
NO, it's not on Kate and Sawyer for wanting to save a then innocent boy. It's all on Benjamin for his own actions, he is the one responsible for his own sins.
Nah because his innocence has gone due to the others saving him
Yeah, and if they want to blame them they should also blame Jack for leaving them no choice in the first place by refusing to save an innocent kids life.
It's completely on Sayid. He was being a moron throughout this entire season
@@x-man9473 Its no one's fault. Nothing would've changed, no matter what they would've done or not, because "whatever happened, happened" and Ben was going to become the psycopath he is as an adult anyways. And you can also argue that if Ben wouldnt had been so horrible with them in the first place then Sayid would've never had the motivations to try to kill him as a kid or Jack wouldnt have refused to save him.
@@samb.6147 Right. But in this case "it happened" because of Sayid's stupidity. None of his logic makes any sense here.
He gets captured and refuses to work with his friends (Sawyer, Jack, Kate, etc) who are trying to get him freed because...reasons. Then Sawyer lets him go to stop him from getting murdered, and Sayid refuses. Then Ben frees him, and the first thing going through his head is to murder him? I was so happy that Sayid got shot.
One of my VERY FEW criticisms of LOST is the Sayid shooting Ben storyline and the way they explain him not remembering. It was a loop for the sake of a loop with a cop-out answer. Anyone else?
It also explains her need to save Ben
At 11:30 I'm pretty sure the whole point of that scene was because Ben didn't remember Sayid which was a plothole, so they wanted to kinda poke fun at it lol
Richard said he wouldn't remember shit when he took him in the cave
Mole Hansman do you know how it might happened that Ben just went back to his camp after getting healed and kill his people when he grew up? Like what did people do when he came back to the camp or how did he go back to the camp?
So much for Jack’s Hippocratic oath.
more like hypocrit-ic oath amirite, hurr hurr
Cassidy did nothing but project onto Kate; SHE was the one still hung up on Sawyer. Hell, everyone on the show is hung up on Skate EXCEPT Kate. The sexism in her (and Juliet's) writing is LOST's biggest flaw.
YES! Exactly. That's how I have always felt about what Cassidy said. It was so out of left field and not at all what we had been seeing from Kate. It was exactly how CASSIDY felt.
Jack is doing what Locke would do Trusting the Island
Locke Be Like
Jack when u start talkin like me bro
this episode and I do are my favorite kate episodes
Do you have a link to the techno song at the end of the video? The remix of Win One For The Reaper?
I just realized the time travel mechanic of this show is almost the same with Avenger's Endgame. They say the same lines. If you go to the past, that past becomes your present and the future is now the past.
Going through a rewatch with you guys and is Nikki looking fire this episode!!!!!!! We see you, in the past in the future. I guess that works with this season lol
Sawyer's nicknames in this episode :
"Freckles" for Kate
"Doc" for Jack
03:49 Oh Britta's in this?
yes, Rena the typical saying is whatever happens happens but that's talking about what is going to happen doesn't matter. this is talking about the past what happened happened is like saying what's done is done
Ben's father was the uncle from Napoleon Dynamite. Can't remember if anyone mentioned that.
When I saw Avengers: Endgame, I thought about this episode. The only thing that Lost didn't do is mentioning different realities. But people we're still confused lol.
7:49 *YES!!!!* See, that's what I'm talking about! That's MY Jack! He's coming!!....
smug look on face was foreshadowing of mib
Hurley can be such a stupid man sometimes. Ben did not force anyone to return to the island.
You guys actually supported Sayid's attempt to kill Ben and Jack's decision not to save him? I find that low and disgusting. Jack's decision was disgusting. He really proved in this episode what a monster he can be. And once again, Kate had no damn business keeping Aaron for herself. She managed to realize this. Why can't you? What is it with you guys? You don't recognize moral failure when you see it? Or are you one of those types who judge other characters based on your personal biases? Like Ben or Michael? Speaking of Ben, he did not order the DHARMA purge. Charles Widmore did. It's official.
Wish we could’ve gotten some extra clips of everyone’s reactions meeting the dharma people, like Sawyers reaction to meeting Roger Workman in person, and Hurleys reaction!!
Did these people ever see the River Song part of Doctor Who? LOL, talk about confused. But it's been fun to watch them try to sort this out.
I'm pretty sure Nikki hasn't. She has no clue about time travel 😂
i want to see someone make a compilation of rana trying to fit in and try to get everything correct, or fake knowing a reference.
Sayid literally created Ben.
Thank you, man!
Written by: Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof
Directed by: Bobby Roth
Yaster Moda
Master yoda
You should established that young Ben literally can't die. So why are you trying to make Jack save him?
Sawyer wants Jack to help cause without Ben he doesn’t bring Juliet on island which means Sawyer never meets his true love
Jack Locke is born
Suraj, looking cool.
Do you remember Peter Parker in Raimi's Spider Man 3? Strutting on the sidewalk? We are talking that level cool! Sheesh!
@@Hatziman how dare you! Suraj is way cooler than that geek.
Did Nikki just hit the "woah" at 8:02?!
Yeah lol. My daughter does that too. And she mocks me when I attempt it ;)
Why is Sayid reacting to Lost now lol
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Holy shit I only just noticed Suraj has Charlie's tattoo
22:55 Suraj is so disrespectful to Nikki and Hurley! 😢😈
Miles : huhhhhh never thought of that
Hugo: yahhh thats right bishhhh
XD
Jacob.... Is watching you!.....
4:57 uh oh Nahid....
I can’t wait for when they learn about Barry.
Oh yeah! Can't wait for them to find out about Barry either, gonna be a lot of fun
Survivors United which Barry?
@Deniz Çakırhan The Man in Black
The only show that ever made me cry.
Awesome ending
Has anyone thought maybe that the rules for time travel is the scientific explanation for destiny.
Roger's concern for the son who will soon murder him and everyone he knows is ironic. Do any if these folks know child Ben kills everyone? Locke would know but he's not there.
That was Charles Widmore, not Ben. In fact, that's Widmore's style.
Season 5 is so fucking good
"I don't like this; that's Roger Workman!"
Well, to keep her from boredom, he can set up the camera and tape himself throwing some passes with the island's only football.
(I hope most of you will get this)
Woah! How did I not recognize him until now! If only coach would've put him in the fourth quarter!
Isn't Just Sawyer and Kate that cost Ben his innocence. I think the island wanted jack to heal him but Jack refused. Jack was supposed to do the operation.
Oh God! What absolute nonsense. No one keeps his or her innocence forever. Get real.
Everyone loses their innocence. And most of the show's main characters had ended up committing terrible deeds.
Not everyone. People still say I'm a very innocent person at 17
Hittin' the whoa...thumbs up! For once ;)
I really can't wait to see the girls reaction on the conclusion of jin and sun story if you know what i mean wink wink
"It's their fault" *facepalm*
Huh Avengers Endgame used similar concept of time travel as this but with their own spin on it.
@Eric Burkheimer Because that Thanos showed up in the present timeline. He became a duplicate, a remnant, he's in a timeline where he shouldn't be. So his death didn't affect anything just like the Past Nebula's death.
Also they were already in a branch timeline since two stones from their timeline has been taken: Power and Soul. So when Cap returned the stones, that specific timeline where that Thanos came from is no longer exist. It's a loophole.
At least, that's my take on it.
I love how people in the comments are standing up for Kate. Literally the 3 worst people I have ever seen in my life
Kate was not one of the worst characters on the show. But because she was the leading female characters, many tried to make excuses or turn a blind eye to her worst crimes.
So Richard saved Ben and Ben went back to his camp and when he grew up he killed all of his people? How did this even happen? Like how did the people at the camp react Ben coming back like wtf
Suraj's spoiler shades
Same time travel theory as Avengers Endgame.
How? They used like 7 different kinds of time travel, all of which conflicted with and contradicted eachother?
??? Lost's time travel is almost certainly how it works IRL. Avengers is like if a 9 year old took every time travel theory and smashed them together.
I need to find a woman who loves me as much as Nikki loves Hurley. 😁😁❤❤😍