I Paid 'Pro' Metal Drummers To Create An EPIC Drum Part For My Song!
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Time for round 2 on Fiverr...but this time it's all about metal drumming! A metal song played by metal drummers with metal cymbals ;^) what can we learn by hiring 6 metal drummers on Fiverr to record their own interpretation of a metalcore song? Even if metal music is not your cup of tea, I think we can all learn a great deal by looking at what each one of these metal drummers played to this metalcore song..
Some of my most valuable feedback and lessons learned have come from evaluating my drumming in a recorded setting, getting feedback from other musicians, and being willing to improve my playing based upon that feedback. As well, I can learn so much just by watching another drummer or picking apart their drumming. So, I wanted to create a Fiverr gig and use it in this drum tutorial. Fiverr gig marketing has become a great way for some drummers to get work...but what type of quality is there? In this video, I paid random drummers that specifically said they specialized in metal drumming on Fiverr to record a drum part to a metal song I had produced. Since I am hiring them, it's my job to play the part of the producer and evaluate what I think works and what I think doesn't work with each of their drum parts.
Leave a comment below and let me know who you think played it the best!
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$38.25 is completely under-selling himself. He had all the accents and displacement down to a tee
shhhhh i might use him for some stuff at that price. lol
But yea i agree
AGREED!
completly
Yeah man
Totally agree. Cheap and good. Didn't know that existed!
Dude thanks so much for hitting me up for this! It was a fun time!
Bro, you killed it! Thanks for being a part
Great job brother
Awesome playing and video man. Nicely done!
you did a crazy good job James! keep it up 👊
You killed it James, as always ! Definitely one of the bests on the platform for sure.
$315 definitely earned it... $38.25 was the stupid deal of the day, underselling himself... all of them earned their money didn’t not like any of them...
Agreed!!! My same preference of the top two!!
I wouldnt say the $38.25 was stupid. He was the preferred drummer of the video and this vid got him a lot of exposure + more people seeing him here would be willing to go to him than pay $315 for anything. Ultimately I think that would net him more than her overall.
but 100% right they were all good. and I didn't dislike any of them
The Scream
2:32 Glenn. 5:15 Fabio. 8:36 James.
11:29 Rebecca. 14:25 Kalonica.
16:19 Nico. 19:03 Stephen
Hello Mr. Stephen
Thanks so much for the opportunity 🙏
I thought you already received all the files you need including the stems since you already review my gigs... I I just realized that fiverr can't send a folder, must open & send it 1 by 1.
but the stems were in a folder... my fault didn't double check 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Sorry & thank you 🙏🙏
Hello there Kalonica, just watch your full version playing in your channel (good you did that). WOW you have talent!!! I'm amaze! You've mastered the drums in such a young age and as a former drummer myself, i must say you played much better among them which I believe much older than you!! You've learned a new lesson here, be more thorough! But imo if Stephen as a senior drummer had good intention he could increase the volume (not hidden your amazing drumming) and he would have the pride to be part of supporting you. Here another lesson you've learned to know people, some people might envy but remember good people does exist too. You have a very long journey ahead, never stop learning. You already a prodigy and YOU'LL BECOME A LEGENDARY DRUMMER! Go Kalonica, God bless you always!!!
You did a great job Kalonica! It's a completely honest error and in a normal session, we would have just hit you a second time. But,for this, if I would have gone back to you a second time I would have needed to go back to everyone a second time. Loved your parts though!
Awesome job, Kalonica ! It's so nice to be able to see everyone's different ideas on the same track ! You definitely had some very interesting ideas that I wouldn't have. ;-)
True star will always shine no matter how hard people tried to dim the light. KALONICA NICX you are blessed with God-gifted talent! You are class, natural, different, unique and special!! the process will lead you to be like diamond, rare and precious! 👍👍
Thanks so much 🙏 I'll keep on learning ✨🥁💛
If Stephen ever chooses me to play, I’m just going to play reverse boom chick the entire song.
Ooohhhwwww! REVERSE BOOM-CHICK!
Glenn needs to charge WAY more. I think that half time part in the outro was so brilliant it just grabbed you by the throat.
He's fantastic
Totally agree; I was thinking he would've been the $120.75 or the 315, but to be the second cheapest?!
Glenn is an awesome drummer! I’ve used his services on all of my latest tracks 🤘
Thank you so much for including me in this video! This was a definite challenge for me and I absolutely loved it 😄
You did a great job with the track Rebecca. Both of the things I pointed out could have been fixed super quick with a punch in. Great track!
Your take was sick!!!!
Your take was killer too Rebecca! Nicely done.
Awesome! 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Awesome job, your take was killer indeed !
It's a shame the second last one was so quiet, her creativity was great
This channel epitomizes the quote, “When art critics get together they talk about Form and Structure and Meaning. When artists get together they talk about where you can buy cheap turpentine.”
Maybe so! You know what they say about opinions...they're like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink!
Thanks for taking the time to check out the video my friend!
@@StephenTaylorDrums I absolutely enjoy your channel and you've earned a new subscriber.
No waaaay was the 1st dude 38 dollars.... fuck me. He was dope
I swore he'd be the most expensive.
Yeah, $38 WELL spent! Definitely the best of this bunch.
Up your price mate. 👌great drumming
I only guessed the most expensive one because he had all the different camera angles and stuff. It was like he produced his own RUclips video, not just 'here's proof of me drumming'
@@markgibbins4143 ikr
Would be super cool if you released the drumless track for this so other drummers can play around with it. I'd love to cover this myself :)
Yes man its a killer track
pleaseeeeee
@One In The Chamber id like to know this as well.
I wanna cover this track bro, please!
Dude the chick who was buried in the mix had flawless technique! So relaxed and tons of power! I cranked the volume with a nice set of cans and dang she sounded like magic!
Oh, no argument here. She has a great You Tube channel too. It was just a shame the tracks weren't sent in. Way that we could really make her shine
I couldn't hear anything but a tapping sound but I watched a few of her more balanced audio / videos on her channel and it's quite a show but many 'meh' moments with some lagging or timing issues , while relaxed, not this power you describe.. but to each their own. She deserves some work, maybe a cruise ship band for the novelty factor. Cute in other words ! :)
I watched different mix on her channel and yes i agree. I'm surprised that she's not really a metal drummer (?) but can make an awesome metal drum parts. That's amazing.
@@StephenTaylorDrums so you get the stems then you mix 'em? So means that this is not the 1st time you hear their playing? I'm curious 🤪
@@domdon358 Lol, you don't want me to mix ANYTHING. Tim Buell did all of the mixing on these and then passed the files to me after I had recorded my parts.
I know some of the other takes are getting a bit more love but Rebecca really did that fill at the end of the verse part. It was unexpected and just fit perfectly, love it
High quality video right here. This is fascinating to see how you are putting this song together. Usually people only see the finished polished piece, but there are so many great ideas going on here.Some of the drum fills actually are killer
James first camera shot gave away that he was the $300+. The quality was too good not to be, if you didn’t know from that all of the other camera angles alone should had given it away. Much higher production level than the others.
Every single drummer delivered exactly their promise. Glenn, buddy, YOU ARE INCREDIBLE.
They all turned in great tracks for sure
James tracked pretty much an entire album for me a couple years ago. He is a complete badass.
Let’s do it again!
Even the non-musicians/drummers clocked the $315.
Cool video, no idea why it was recommended, but I watched the whole thing. Those algorithms...
In response to your comments on Kalonica's track, and something that would be helpful for the musicians you are hiring as well as yourself, don't ask for stems, ask for multitracks. If you ask for stems, (assuming the musician knows what they're talking about) what you'll get is a single stereo file of the entire kit. Multitracks are the individual raw tracks. Although you can ask for the multitracks to be processed as well. But if you asked her for the stem of the drum track, you'd have saved yourself a headache by asking for the multis instead.
I liked Glenn's buildup in the intro, made the outro hit harder
I completely, 100% agree. That half time just came out of none where. It made me head bang so hard my neck hurts.
What's with the asian female metal drummers taking over the world these last few years? They are CRUSHING it. I know her mix was bad, but from what I could see/hear I was loving it. And Rebecca's value for the dollar was excellent.
Great video. This is one of my favorite concepts for a drum vid. Love hearing diff musicians' takes on the same piece of music. *subscribed*
You should do a contest of some sort where you have drummers record there take on this song and we upload our videos on RUclips with a specific # so it’s all grouped together and you pick some of your favorites.
I thought the first drummer was most expensive. Thought he deserved it for sure. Had some killer fills and was tight. He should charge more.
For me personally, James was way ahead, the drums really fit the song and really it was the only take that I would groove out to.
Glenn gives you the best bang for your buck no contest! I was guessing he'd be in the mid tier for pricing and was shocked when you showed their real prices. James I thought had the most professional sounds, video, and overall groove, but idk about 300+ on that one. I will say I think I enjoyed his take the most though!
$300+ is reasonable if you're looking for a quality part for a professional quality song. You'd probably pay more than that in studio time if you had a drummer on hand already.
Love these videos. Great to see different interpretations.
I loved Rebecca's take! I wish you had let the intro play longer... had so much power.
Solid take bro !!
Solid takes yall too, the level of playing in this video was impressive, at any cost.
Totally agree. I was really happy with everyone's tracks
Love this format man, got this vid recommended. Instantly subbed and watched whole vid with full entertainment and joy. Thanks for making this.
Thanks my friend!
@@StephenTaylorDrums most welcome!
This is my new favourite channel, watched some videos during the last few days, and wow
Thanks!
Ummm dude...you get the gig! You are far and away the best drummer for this and one of the best dummers I've ever heard! Your speed is amazing, timing, ideas..phew.
since we are in lockdown, i do the same that drummer 2 did. i play every section different - so the band can listen to it in full and after that decide what they liked most. not sure if that was the intention here - other than that - another great energy filled video that just shows the passion for music. to everyone reading this, i sure hope you have a great day and may your tomorrow be even better, take care
Yea, really any of these takes would have worked if I would have gone back for a round 2 and asked them to adjust 1 or 2 things.
All of them did a good job. Different approaches for same song. Thumbs up👍
The fact that the little videos for the price at the end are all in sync was the best part about this! Every drummer on here knows what I'm talking about!!
Lol, you're the first one to notice that little detail
Let's give this gamble a shot. I'm going in order: 120,75 - 52,50 - 315 - 33,50 - 38,25 - 94,50. I'll edit how badly I did. ^^
EDIT: Well, 4/6 isn't bad. When I was listening back to all of them, I indeed underrated Kalonica's work. That stereo mix made it sound worse but it was a really solid delivery. This was fun!
The real question is where can I get this SONG!!!!!
This was sick. As casual listener hearing the difference a drum beat makes blew my freaking mind. Hell yea!
I liked the girl rebecca's part that "didnt line up enough". The little "pup padda pup, da da pup, dada pup" that sounded like a horse trot. I love that in any drum riff. 11:49
I liked glen's the best. Honestly. He was solid, but james was really good too.
Shame the volume on Kalonica's take was so low. I can tell she's a hard hitter and she has great technique and feel. She even did some interesting things with that I wish I could hear a bit clearer...
I believe she posted her version on her you tube channel
@@StephenTaylorDrums Great, I'll check it out, thanks :)
Love the content! Great stuff man
Prices charged are not only on ability, but experience and status and also the ability to negotiate amongst others. It's say on the low end the people undersold themselves greatly.
I really loved the takes by Jamesplays Drums and Kalonica_Nicx. They do not play along with the song, but on top of it, really supporting the composition. Jamesplays might be the most expensive one, but he surely delivers! And Kalonica_Nicx just seems to have so much fun doing this, and at the same time she just totally kills it!
Your drum take was by far the most disjointed one of them all lol
That's the beautiful thing about a project like this. 7 different take and all 7 of them could work. It really just boils down to personal preference.
Who's take did you like the most?
@@StephenTaylorDrums I agree 100% with that. My favorite take was the 1st because it fit the song. Sometimes drummers tend to over complicate a song and it doesn't work in both recording and live settings. The goal to grip a listener is to know when to simplify and when to spice things up. Perfect example is Ken Shalk of Candiria or Gene Hoglan of every metal band in existence lol. They both can go nuts but also know when bring it down a notch to let the song breathe. At the end of the day you do what's best for the song in a "Band" setting.
Yea, Glenn is such a solid player. His was one of my favorite takes. He hands down played my favorite groove...that outro groove would light up a pit any day of the week. Everyone thinks "busier" is heavier. But sometimes simple is the heaviest thing you can do.
@@StephenTaylorDrums Yes definitely, I agree with you on that 100%. He played extremely tight, very impressed and the sound quality of his drums were great. Just so you know I wasn't knocking you at all regarding your beat. This was the first video of yours I've seen and in the beginning of the video you said you gave a full song to these drummers so I listened for which was best for the song. Im sure you're insane lol. Good luck with your channel. Cheers 🍻
Didn't take it that way at all my friend. I have no ego in this game. Music is music and I'm just happy to be part of the party 👊🏻🥁
I actually liked your groove sensibility the best of all!
Although some of the double bass on the others kicked ass
(9 months later) Damn Stephen, I loved seeing you stretch out with some of the more technical things in this track! If we’d have a combo of the first guy with some of your technical parts it would have been outstanding! Because each of those was so good in their own right. Enjoyed watching this and taking my own notes.
The person (whose name I forgot I’m sorry) with quite audio, you could see the joy on their face I love that. I’ve got a miserable looking drum face, to busy concentrating forget to have fun
She looks so happy when she's playing!
@@StephenTaylorDrums I'd love to hear her take in solo, I bet it was pretty killer.
teacher dude delivered the weirdest version, not something I would expect to see on an actual album release
This is why they say that those who can't do, teach.
@@TonyMontanaDS tell that to Jordan Valeriote!
How did I just learn about the existence of this channel? Holy hell. I can't stop.
Nice job with YOUR take, brother!
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Let me just say...all of these drummers did amazing takes. On a normal session, we would have done one round of adjustments and punch ins and any of their takes could have been used. Really happy with all of the players on this one.
As a drummer, some of my most valuable feedback and lessons learned have come from evaluating my drumming in a recorded setting, getting feedback from other musicians, and being willing to improve my playing based upon that feedback. As well, I can learn so much just by watching another drummer or picking apart their drumming. So, in this video, I paid random metal drummers on Fiverr to record a drum part to a metalcore song I had produced. Since I am hiring them, it's my job to play the part of the producer and evaluate what I think works and what I think doesn't work with each of their drum parts.
Leave a comment below and let me know who you think played it the best!
If you like this series, you'll love this one as well:
I Paid $2000 For 3 DRUM LEGENDS To Record The Same Song!: ruclips.net/video/HuWiDhVtymE/видео.html
I Paid 3 DRUM LEGENDS To Record The Same Song!: ruclips.net/video/uTs55giAlwM/видео.html
A-Grade Stephen. I was waiting for some one to add old school "Keith Moon" style/Mitch Mitchell style drums! . Others were great too.
Nico Drummer and Glenn were my favourites!
Stephen, bro... you gotta pin the posts by the drummers in the video. ;) It's weird that they're not.
You can only pin one post. So for me, it would be weird to pin one of them and not all. So for that reason, I don't pin any of them. Just not a fair way to do it. Hope that makes sense!
@@StephenTaylorDrums ...well that's just dumb. I had no idea you could only pin one post. What a strange thing for RUclips to do. XD
Nevermind me, then! I should've known that, really, given that I've run a channel in the past. Oh well, lol
Eh, my drum set is already missing cymbals and it's too expensive to buy more.
Oh well.
James is a beast! And I'm pretty biased but that Offbeat Drum Co. snare he's playing isn't too shabby either!
Haha!
Rebacca`s intro was epically beautiful!
Chad kent from Atomship is a friend of mine and he's one of the most technical percussionists on the planet. Deserves to be with a band changing lives...they had one album under WINDUP from years ago but he is such a beast and I wont stop until he's back in the game
i love the sound of the sticks hitting the cymbals, but i also like when you can hear picking or fingers moving across a fretboard
I'm right there with you. Raw sounds that naturally come from playing an instrument are part of what makes the experience in some cases for me
James is a legend
His track was pure 🔥
Yes and he should get more points for showmanship too! Skill & engagement go a long way together⚡️
I Think that the "drum replace" on the each snare sound, killed the sound, feeling and performance of each one!
Loved your take bro
Kalonica played almost exactly what I would want to play if I was on the track.
Fabio is the current drummer for the band Annihilator!
Hey, that was a pretty fun video. I watched the whole thing.
For the cost reveal, instead of having the drummers pictures super small in the corner (hard to see), a firmer recap would be great. Like a count up with 10 second video with a splash or scroll of the cost over the drummer while they are drumming.
Great video though. Hope to see more.
This was fun to watch I liked the cymbal roll ladys take 2nd best the cramped room drummer made my face melt
The $94.50 guy was my favourite out of all of them, he kicked ass 😎🤘
I honestly had a hard time deciding between the two. His take was super well put together
Thanks a lot Diego ! I appreciate it. :-)
I'm such a sucker for galloping thrash beats, so when the double-kick galloping section gains steam (shortly after the scream) I was like yeeeeaaaaa this is what fits the song best. The transitions were super smooth.
I would've preferred more clash and bang over the tom rolls at the end, but otherwise it was the most kinetic and thrashy take. Amazing!
Guy with the long hair and galaxy blue shirt was the best IMO. Best footwork and spacing. Would love to hear how someone like Sam Applebaum or Cameron Losch would do on this haha.
I'm going to go with the Kalonika with that posh studio and $10,678 worth of cymbals as the most expensive...HA!
Last player my fav. Love the notes not played as well, on both tracks, to accentuate the scream.
Your take had a bit of a serpentine snakey vibe thing going on...nice
watched your take at the end! good shit your a awesome drummer! but would of loved to see more double bass after all it is metal!...
Stephen I like how you actually critique these videos! Instead of just saying they are all perfect. I think you giving your wisdom to help these drummers orchestrate the song better is definitely much help!
The best part about this, is you being superpositive about each and every one of them. Good vibes!
That's the goal! No "right" or "wrong" parts... just different interpretations and personal creative opinions
He always seems over the top excited, it comes off as less than completely genuine to me. I love the concept of these videos, but this will probably the last of his videos I watch.
@@gordonjeffrey8616 I can see what you mean, in that such a thing can get to you, but I think the signal he is sending off is just nothing but positivity in a good way. A lot of beginner drummers might watch his video's feeling not so encouraged if he were to give half baked reviews of their peers. We need positivity and I think he's just genuinely being as positive as he can be. That's something I can learn from.
I need to say thank YOU STEPHEN! I have been playing drums since 2006...ish but playing seriously since 2018. I watched and studied all the "best" drummers out there. I heard what they were telling me but I got lost. I never had a teacher. But the first time I watched your video ( the one where you hired the pros to play over your track) I YELLED OHHHHHH, that is what they meant!! The other 11ish times I said well I am not doing that right. Did that wrong for years and the biggest lesson learned is, even if it is simple or it is complex. KEEP IT TIGHT!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! When I can, I will purchase online lessons and finally take my drumming to where it is supposed to be!! God Bless.
Best one was the $94.50 guy in my imo. His setup was so minimal yet he did so much with it.
The best way to put drum track on this song is to take Rebecca's intro and glue it with Glenn's part for the rest of the song and this song goes to my top 5 metal track. Glenns part is just so masterfully well done. He's great!
Most expensive was also the best 👌
Less is more. Really clean take.
Loved the creativity of second drummer with long brown hair... really good. 👌🏼
Definitely James and Nico for the win.
James had that crisp tone on the entire kit.
I feel like Rebecca had the most originality.
Where can I find the finished track? This song is soooo sick!
this video is cool :) got yourself a new follower
Thanks simon!
Can we get the full song with each drummer? I'd like to see the last guys full take.
There it is. ;-)
ruclips.net/video/SaXwMhz4SqM/видео.html
Hey Stephen! Thanks again for having me, it was a blast!! Great track to play on and in hindsight, yes I absolutely agree about that riff after the intro, needed to come in strong. Again you had some awesome drummers here, with Nico and James being my favourites. And of course your take is a monster too. Thanks again and if anyone wants to check out my full take, the video is here ruclips.net/video/vPBJ_MwsuNo/видео.html
You slayed it again brotha. There is a reason you do so well on the platform. You deserve all of the gigs you're getting. Thanks for being a part...and I need to get with you for my double bass lol. Started learning it this month after so many years of never touching it.
Double bass drum hang?! Let's go!
You killed it Glenn! I loved your take 👌
I tried to blast beat a bit even though it's not what I do best... You guys are all monsters. :D
Man, your sound is just epic! You're a seriously good session drummer, and you _way_ underpriced yourself. Great job, man!
Kalonica should have sent stems... But did she send you her drum tracks on their own, or did she mix everything and send you a final song with the music? I would hope she sent the drums separately (even though just stereo). If so, it wasn't her fault that the drum levels were too low. Where did the final mix take place?
I hire a mix engineer here in Nashville to mix these projects
@@StephenTaylorDrums Thanks for the reply. Well then they sure didn't do her any favors. It's not her fault the drums were way too low in the mix. I have no affiliation, but seems uncool they failed on something that hurt her review.
I'm surprised actually bc I thought Mr. Stephen already received all the files that he need including the stems since he already review my gigs... 😊 i checked fiverr again & just realized that fiverr can't send a folder, must open & send it 1 by 1. The only files that were sent are the *drum only mix & video* 😭
the stems were in a folder... my fault didn't double check 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ even though it's useless I have sent the stems after watching this video 🙂
Btw, you can watch my version on my channel if you want. Thank you.
@@KALONICANICX love your version, watched it on your channel 👍
It would be great if you could make the track public or create a new one for fans, so that fans can also add their own. And then make a fan montage.
Dude! Please have Aquiles Priester to record one of your songs!
$38.25 was the biggest bargain in the world for what he put out.
I was about to enter the same exact comment!
Absolutely, by far my favorite rendition of it. Sorry Stephen!
@@burnkill why sorry?
@@stephenshivers5150 just didn’t want to make it seem like I was dogging yours! Love your videos and channel!
@@burnkill this isn't my channel. Just a viewer too.
James for me brother... Nailed it .. let the song breathe when it needed to ... Stay Safe from Down Under ....
For sure
Not sure if you've done this before, but I think breaking down live performances of drummers playing with their respective bands would be great.
Awesome video. Awesome music. New sub!
So, after working with many people on Fiverr, I learned early on that you'll typically get exactly what is in their "package description". For Kalonica_Nicx, she never offers to send full drum stems... only an "hq audio file". For $125 (which is her standard price for playing an original drum track), you'd expect to get stems, but you can't get mad about what is never offered in the first place. With her situation in mind... whoever mixed/mastered these tracks for you did a bad job. The entire point of this video is to show off the drum tracks, but all of the drum tracks were buried in the mix. If the guitar/drum volumes had been swapped, it would have made more sense. Also, there's no excuse for having Kalonica's drums so quiet in the mix. Mixing/mastering engineers need to do whatever is necessary to ensure that the tracks sound right (if possible). In this case... simply giving the drums a db boost would have alleviated the issue all together.
Totally get your points. Let me give you some info:
1. I communicated twice begore recording asking specifically for the stems in the final package. I also told them to give an adjusted price if they needed for providing those. However, after files were sent, to keep it fair to all, I couldn't go back to one without going back to all of the others. This time around I was SUPER clear on what was needed and what would happen with the final product.
2. The initial mix turned in did have all of the drums boosted. I requested they be brought down so it sounds like music instead of a play along/drum cover where the drums are intentionally boosted. You will find that on most of these types of vids I do, that is the approach. My goal is to emphasize music, not just drums. The song, in the end, is the goal.
3. We leveled out all of the mixes when mastered so there was a consistency. When you're working with 5 tracks that have individual stems vs one track that is a stereo of the entire song, it gets tricky. Kalonica is an amazing player and I loved what she did.
Hope that clarifies a bit!
@@StephenTaylorDrums Thanks for the extra info. If you had reached out to her, and she agreed to send the stems but didn't, that's definitely an issue. I guess that ultimately, I still have difficulty wrapping my head around the concept of leaving her mix (mostly) inaudible in the final master. Unless she only sent you a mixdown of the drums *and music as one file (I'd be pissed), it seems like it would have been fairly simple to boost the volume on the single drum track in the mix. I do that with demos from my drummer all the time while I'm waiting for the full stems, haha. In regards to the rest of the mixes... it truly is one of those scenarios where mixes are quite subjective, haha. If I were just guessing from the mixes, without knowing the point of the upload, I would have assumed the guitars were the focal point. It's all good... I would have just liked to hear the drums a tiny bit louder than normal... especially on hers. I checked out her page and she does some great work. I could never see myself paying someone that much for a single drum track, especially for only a single file, but talent wise she sounds like she's worth it. Also, random, but I had instantly assumed that James was the $300 work, haha... he did phenomenal with the track, as well as the video.
Oh, for sure. His track and video were next level. We didn't get in to the audio file side of things...but he sent a final mix that could have been used. And that was only $100.
And I agree with you, Kalonica does amazing work with her playing. Love her stuff
@@mr.nervedamagegaming8050 I'm surprised actually bc I thought Mr. Stephen already received all the files that he need including the stems since he already review my gigs... 😊 i checked fiverr again & just realized that fiverr can't send a folder, must open & send it 1 by 1. The only files that were sent are the *drum only mix & video* 😭
the stems were in a folder... my fault didn't double check 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ fyi even though it's useless I have sent the stems after watching this video 🙂
Btw, you can watch my version on my channel if you want. Thank you.
$38 and $94 for me. $94 might just have it by a drum stick tip
Yay, thanks a lot !
$315 well spent. James was freaking awesome!
oh WOW that 2nd guy is Fabio Alessandrini, the actual drummer for one of my very favorite bands, Annihilator. Sick drummer. played on their most recent album Ballistic, Sadistic
Hes fantastic
The cheapest guy was the only one that made me do 'stank face'. Every real musician knows thats the only thing that matters.
Edit : 3:05
I didn't know this has a name, thanks for the enlightenment :)
Last guy has a very “The Rev” feel. Went straight into the rock beat from the intro. Let the parts breathe. And the occasional blast for energy. Tasty.
Funny how you can hear their influences in their drumming and parts
The second one (I think? The one who used to be his student) had a Rev influence too with that double ride (well, ride + hat) beat
I thought for sure the $38.25 guy would've been the $315 guy.
He can definitely raise his prices.
James smoked it, Glenn a close second. Can't believe how little Glenn charged.
Hey Stephen, do you have this drumless track available? This track would be a fun one to record as a RUclips challenge!
Had the same thought. Maybe next time this would be cool before the video drops. idk
Jazz drummers are underrated in the metal world.
Yours was better because you already had a direction you wanted to go with it. All of them were good but there are little things that cut them out.
The others just didn't take big enough risks, I feel. They were mostly quite good but they lacked personality, or direction, like you said. For me the problem was mostly a lack of attention to interesting transitions. They just kinda move along logically, but not interestingly, with the guitar and vocals.
This wasnt what i expected when you said metal drums. This is rock drumming in my definition.