Thanks for the video. I’ve been using my r5m2 daily since the 21 August. The pre-capture function in this camera is perfectly implemented. You don’t need a button to turn it on and off. Enable it and leave it enabled. Then use back-button AF just as before. Pre-capture only works on a half press of the shutter button. Only. So, to take a normal image, just hit AF-On or one of your other back buttons and *fully* press the shutter button. Shots taken, no pre-capture. To use pre-capture, first press AF-on to get focus and start AF, then half-press the shutter button. Now pre-capture is buffering shots. When you are ready, fully press the shutter button to save those buffered shots and get your images. You don’t need to do anything thing else. I keep pre-capture on all the time and it never gets in the way and I never fill up my card with extra shots. Whoever said that would happen clearly hadn’t used the camera. It’s a great implementation of pre-capture. Yay Canon!!!
Interesting approach, thanks for sharing! I have the spot AF on the shutter button and then it doesn’t work so well. Maybe I should try to change my settings then 😊
Very interesting, canon must assume most of us use back button focus. I've tried a few times but just can't get used to it though. That said, precapture on my R6ii is amazing for capturing lighting strikes. I used to struggle before, but with precapture it almost feels like cheating.
Great first impression video Fabian. I would like to see in your next in depth video on the R5mk2 a comparison on its behaviour on diving birds( osprey, eagles etc.) with a busy background like trees etc, Thanks
Great video! One thing you may have missed in the manual. If you set a video setting you like and assign it to Custom Video Shooting Mode 3, then that is what the red record button will use when pressed. This way you don't have to switch to video mode with the left hand.
Love the precapture! Great for launching birds and behaviour shots as you mentioned. Also, you can now turn off the autoswitch from EVF and screen. This was always annoying when showing an image to someone using the screen, and it would go black as it switched to EVF.
Congratulations. Your’s is the first review to actually write down, and post, the feature restrictions with the older NH and not P batteries. I’d actually like to see a full and complete list. Is there a link you could provide to such a list. I’m considering getting on to replace the original R5 but they are now hard to find. Admit I held off since I also own two Sony A1’s and I had no idea how the lack of batteries would limit the usage. Thank you and take care.
Thank you for the video. I've just started using the R5 II. I also use the R5. As you say, I think it would have been better to have the camera/video switch under the shutter and the power switch on the left side, so that it would have been the same as the R5.
So I’m new to photography but am really loving it, I have a beginners camera and have been looking to upgrade. I don’t video, just photo, and have been looking at the R5M2 for a couple months just haven’t pulled the trigger yet. So thank you for the video, in your professional opinion, photo wise, is the R5M2 better that the R6 and R7?
Nice video Fabian, not sure why you'd want to turn the camera on and off during a shooting session, personally I turn my camera on at the start and leave it on until the end of a session except when I need to change batteries. The video/stills switch should have been where this on/off switch is and the on/off on the right or anywhere out of the way and the lock position isn't needed at all and can be accidentally engaged causing problems. Perhaps Canon could allow these to be swopped over in a custom setting via a firmware?
Great review. The R5 MK II has such a great AF system compared to the original R5. However, I am a little puzzled. I am hitting the buffer sooner than I think. Each time I was watching the Osprey dive and then it would buffer out and the next frame is the bird emerging from the water! I am not sure if my settings are impacting the buffer? Any suggestions welcome. Oh and the over heating. I got the symbol with one bar and this was after not frantically firing frames off! The overheating freaked me out in the original R5 and I hope this will not re-occur. Overall a great camera.
I am interested if you try eye controlled tracking and find it useful for animals. I've been trying to get it to work and so far have not had much success, but I am not sure about the best settings. The camera seems to jump to where it wants if it doesn't like where I am looking. Thanks for the excellent videos and presentation!
Some stunning images and great you begun to put the R5 II through its paces. Any point using mechanical shutter? How’s the eye control AF? I couldn’t get it to collaborate when I had the R3, maybe this is improved as that for me would be a dream. R3 mkii (can’t help it lol) for sure an interesting dilema. It could just be Canons innovation line so the next one could be a pro body big battery R5 ii Look forward to more in depth review. Oh how’s it with the 200-800 and 100-500? Cheers
Hi Sorry this is a delayed comment I'm watching it for the second time. So far R5II seems impressive and I'm seeing healthy discounts already on grey imports, our normal camera shop UK pricing is too far from the norm a money grab! so I'm beginning to be tempted by grey prices. However the most critical factor for me is focus speed, subject recognition and tracking. I had already decided on Z8 plus the 600 prime. I do already have nice Canon lenses so it's become difficult to chose. I could still use the Canon lenses on older Canon bodies I have and even use the fringer EF-NZII to attach them to the Z8. Seems it's close to native AF. Any thoughts would be useful. Great channel keep up the excellent review work and lovely shots.
Hi Fabian, I’m interested in knowing your impression of the eye tracking. I’ve heard both positive and negative feedback but none of the sources are bird or animal photographers.
Hi and thanks for another great video. Could you tell me how to stop the camera from focusing outside the box. I have turned the tracking off etc but still no difference.. Thanks
I am stuggling with pre-capture on R5M2. I've used pre-capture on Olympus for a decade. My problem with R5M2 specifically with hummingbirds pre-capture is that the hummingbirds are takin off and the autofocus struggles, I am getting the half a second of precapture shots but they are not in good focus. I reviewed R5 M2 advanced manual on the subject of pre-continuous shooting and it says "Subjects may be out of focus if there are sudden changes in the distance between subjects and the camera while you are pressing the shutter button halfway." I don't know what Cano means by that but I am getting a lot of out of focus shots with birds pre-capture unless the bird flies away in the perfect plane parallel to me. it is almost like Pre-capture for Canon uses Single and Not Continuous AF for the half second of precapture. Or I am doing something wrong.
I think the solution of the switch photo to video is if u are a casual shooter u can just press the rec red button on your right hand rather than just completely switch it to video mode
I wish they had kept the power switch in the same position as the R5 and put the new video/stills switch on the right, or not used a lock position and had off/stills/video all available on the right dial like the R7. On my new R5 MKII I have switched it to video mode instead of off more than a few times.
Yeah, I think off, photo, video on one switch would have been my preferred solution. Currently it’s a bit annoying to switch back and forth between the R5 Ii and R5
Hi, have you also noticed in your copy a strange fit when the "Canon" inscription on the right and left side is clearer than in the case of Canon R5, R3, R6II?
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I think it is odd that You are limited to 0.5 second of pre-shooting, I mean, with (the max of) 30 fps, You can get 15 images pre-shot during half a second, so 15 is apparantly the limit of what the camera's buffer can manage, what I don't understand then is, why - if You shoot in for instance 15 or 7.5 fps continous - You can no longer hold the same 15 images as what You could with 30, and so get Yourself 1 or 2 seconds of pre-shooting....? The only explanation I can find is that the camera doesn't know WHEN You are going to press the button, so it has to record/save all "potential images", so it can't just record the preshooting in 15 or 7.5 fps, as there may then be an incontinouity in timing between the last preshot image and the first not-preshot image, however, that there may be a tiny mis-timing between these two images, propably will matter little to most photographers. - Well, another explanation could be that the preshooting is always in 30 fps, even if the camera is set for for instance 7.5 fps, so it DOES actually still record 15 images, is thát the case....???
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Thanks for the video. I’ve been using my r5m2 daily since the 21 August. The pre-capture function in this camera is perfectly implemented. You don’t need a button to turn it on and off. Enable it and leave it enabled. Then use back-button AF just as before. Pre-capture only works on a half press of the shutter button. Only. So, to take a normal image, just hit AF-On or one of your other back buttons and *fully* press the shutter button. Shots taken, no pre-capture. To use pre-capture, first press AF-on to get focus and start AF, then half-press the shutter button. Now pre-capture is buffering shots. When you are ready, fully press the shutter button to save those buffered shots and get your images. You don’t need to do anything thing else. I keep pre-capture on all the time and it never gets in the way and I never fill up my card with extra shots. Whoever said that would happen clearly hadn’t used the camera. It’s a great implementation of pre-capture. Yay Canon!!!
Interesting approach, thanks for sharing! I have the spot AF on the shutter button and then it doesn’t work so well. Maybe I should try to change my settings then 😊
Very interesting, canon must assume most of us use back button focus. I've tried a few times but just can't get used to it though.
That said, precapture on my R6ii is amazing for capturing lighting strikes. I used to struggle before, but with precapture it almost feels like cheating.
thanks for this, very useful comment and implementation.
That sounds perfect to me, thanks for sharing. Still waiting for my pre-order...
The most important thing wuld be noise/DR comparisons between this and the R5 at different ISOs
Great to see you on Canon again. Pre-capture is awesome
Thanks!
Great first impression video Fabian. I would like to see in your next in depth video on the R5mk2 a comparison on its behaviour on diving birds( osprey, eagles etc.) with a busy background like trees etc, Thanks
Thanks for the feedback
Great video! One thing you may have missed in the manual. If you set a video setting you like and assign it to Custom Video Shooting Mode 3, then that is what the red record button will use when pressed. This way you don't have to switch to video mode with the left hand.
Thanks! Yes, I know this also from other cameras. But the problem is that it then records with the exposure settings in many cases (I shoot manual)
Love the precapture! Great for launching birds and behaviour shots as you mentioned. Also, you can now turn off the autoswitch from EVF and screen. This was always annoying when showing an image to someone using the screen, and it would go black as it switched to EVF.
Thanks! I thought you could also turn off the autoswitch on the original R5
Congratulations. Your’s is the first review to actually write down, and post, the feature restrictions with the older NH and not P batteries. I’d actually like to see a full and complete list. Is there a link you could provide to such a list. I’m considering getting on to replace the original R5 but they are now hard to find. Admit I held off since I also own two Sony A1’s and I had no idea how the lack of batteries would limit the usage. Thank you and take care.
Thanks! I‘m not aware of a comprehensive list. I checked at different point in the manual to compile these points
Thank you for the video.
I've just started using the R5 II. I also use the R5.
As you say, I think it would have been better to have the camera/video switch under the shutter and the power switch on the left side, so that it would have been the same as the R5.
Thanks! Yes, now I‘m confused every time I pick up my R5
Nice captures of the nutcracker in flight!
Thanks!
Would love help on how to best set up buttons for focusing; precapture and eye control.
Thanks for the feedback
So I’m new to photography but am really loving it, I have a beginners camera and have been looking to upgrade. I don’t video, just photo, and have been looking at the R5M2 for a couple months just haven’t pulled the trigger yet. So thank you for the video, in your professional opinion, photo wise, is the R5M2 better that the R6 and R7?
Yes! The main downside of the R5 II (for me the only one) is the price
Get well soon!
Thanks, almost fine again 😊
Nice video Fabian, not sure why you'd want to turn the camera on and off during a shooting session, personally I turn my camera on at the start and leave it on until the end of a session except when I need to change batteries. The video/stills switch should have been where this on/off switch is and the on/off on the right or anywhere out of the way and the lock position isn't needed at all and can be accidentally engaged causing problems. Perhaps Canon could allow these to be swopped over in a custom setting via a firmware?
Well, if I'm hiking I prefer not to have the camera on for the whole time (even if I want to have it ready to take pictures of ibex, ptarmigan etc.)
Thanks for the review!
Did you find significant differences in the AF or overall speed when compared to the Z8 post firmware?
The detection was noticeably better on the R5 II. But in terms of lowlight, backlight and tracking I was not able to get enough impressions yet
Great review. The R5 MK II has such a great AF system compared to the original R5. However, I am a little puzzled. I am hitting the buffer sooner than I think. Each time I was watching the Osprey dive and then it would buffer out and the next frame is the bird emerging from the water! I am not sure if my settings are impacting the buffer? Any suggestions welcome. Oh and the over heating. I got the symbol with one bar and this was after not frantically firing frames off! The overheating freaked me out in the original R5 and I hope this will not re-occur. Overall a great camera.
I assume you are using a fast cfexpress card? Do you use raw or craw?
I am interested if you try eye controlled tracking and find it useful for animals. I've been trying to get it to work and so far have not had much success, but I am not sure about the best settings. The camera seems to jump to where it wants if it doesn't like where I am looking. Thanks for the excellent videos and presentation!
I will go more into detail in my final review :-)
Fabian, show your photography setting in a detailed video
I‘m thinking about doing this a bite later
Some stunning images and great you begun to put the R5 II through its paces. Any point using mechanical shutter? How’s the eye control AF? I couldn’t get it to collaborate when I had the R3, maybe this is improved as that for me would be a dream. R3 mkii (can’t help it lol) for sure an interesting dilema. It could just be Canons innovation line so the next one could be a pro body big battery R5 ii
Look forward to more in depth review. Oh how’s it with the 200-800 and 100-500? Cheers
Thanks, I will keep these points in mind
Hi Sorry this is a delayed comment I'm watching it for the second time. So far R5II seems impressive and I'm seeing healthy discounts already on grey imports, our normal camera shop UK pricing is too far from the norm a money grab! so I'm beginning to be tempted by grey prices. However the most critical factor for me is focus speed, subject recognition and tracking. I had already decided on Z8 plus the 600 prime. I do already have nice Canon lenses so it's become difficult to chose. I could still use the Canon lenses on older Canon bodies I have and even use the fringer EF-NZII to attach them to the Z8. Seems it's close to native AF. Any thoughts would be useful. Great channel keep up the excellent review work and lovely shots.
So far I clerly prefer the R5 II AF over the Z8 for wildlife photography.
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Thankyou very much
Hi Fabian, I appreciate the review. How you do you rate the autofocus compared to Nikon Z8/Z9
Thanks heaps for your efforts
Thanks! So far I prefer the one of the R5 II
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@@FabianFoppNaturephotographythank you so much. I’m still stuck whether to sell my z8 and get the r5 ii. Haha
FYI, the duck at 8:13 is a Eurasian Teal. Great review video!
Thanks! I only knew the German name 😅
Hi Fabian, I’m interested in knowing your impression of the eye tracking. I’ve heard both positive and negative feedback but none of the sources are bird or animal photographers.
So far I‘m impressed how well it works. But I want to test it a bit more before talking about it in the video
It's not eye tracking!
Ah, I assumed he meant the eye control AF
Hi and thanks for another great video. Could you tell me how to stop the camera from focusing outside the box. I have turned the tracking off etc but still no difference.. Thanks
You actually need to turn subject detection off. I don’t like this implementation to be honest
I am stuggling with pre-capture on R5M2. I've used pre-capture on Olympus for a decade. My problem with R5M2 specifically with hummingbirds pre-capture is that the hummingbirds are takin off and the autofocus struggles, I am getting the half a second of precapture shots but they are not in good focus. I reviewed R5 M2 advanced manual on the subject of pre-continuous shooting and it says "Subjects may be out of focus if there are sudden changes in the distance between subjects and the camera while you are pressing the shutter button halfway." I don't know what Cano means by that but I am getting a lot of out of focus shots with birds pre-capture unless the bird flies away in the perfect plane parallel to me. it is almost like Pre-capture for Canon uses Single and Not Continuous AF for the half second of precapture. Or I am doing something wrong.
Hmm, that doesn’t sound good. For me it worked fine even when birds where taking off in my direction. I assume you are in Servo AF?
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Yes, I was using 100-500 shooting hummingbirds, taking off and typically flying downward toward the feeder
I think the solution of the switch photo to video is if u are a casual shooter u can just press the rec red button on your right hand rather than just completely switch it to video mode
Yes, that works - provided you don’t want to use manual mode
I wish they had kept the power switch in the same position as the R5 and put the new video/stills switch on the right, or not used a lock position and had off/stills/video all available on the right dial like the R7. On my new R5 MKII I have switched it to video mode instead of off more than a few times.
Yeah, I think off, photo, video on one switch would have been my preferred solution. Currently it’s a bit annoying to switch back and forth between the R5 Ii and R5
Is it worth getting the R5 MkIIif you are hobbyist if you have the R5 Mk I?
It depends on the type of photography you do. I will answer more in my full review
what kind of fast camera strap do you use?
Peak design
Hi Fabian are you using C-raw ? do you notice any difference to full raw.Thanks
Thanks! Yes, I'm using CRAW. I did a comparison video around 2 years ago (with the original R5)
which one you think has better images compared to Sony a1? and which one do you rate better, you would pick? if cost is not a problem
The R5 II. The precapture is really great in some situations
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Hi, have you also noticed in your copy a strange fit when the "Canon" inscription on the right and left side is clearer than in the case of Canon R5, R3, R6II?
You mean the one in front? Looks very similar to me
Super! Thank You!
You‘re welcome
Much appreciated. Merci!
Thanks
Fabian, I'm still hoping for A1 ii😅
I‘m sure it will come eventually
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how do you go through 8000 pics...i am struggling with 500!!! Please help Thanks for the review.
Only selecting the ones you want to keep 😊 I use fastrawviewer
How does it compare against the Sony a1 in your opinion? (Not considering pre capture)
Good question! I think I need a bit more time, but overall similar
I have a difficult time exposing black birds on the original R5.
The exposure for the R5 II is supposed to be much improved.
I expose manually all the time, so I don’t bother about it
Wait i mean why the fuss about tally light when u can slip the screen towards u to tell you whether it is recording or not?
You don’t see it well from 5m distance
Is the bokeh as creamy as the r5?
The bokeh will be the same for all FF cameras (provided you use the same lens
I think it is odd that You are limited to 0.5 second of pre-shooting, I mean, with (the max of) 30 fps, You can get 15 images pre-shot during half a second, so 15 is apparantly the limit of what the camera's buffer can manage, what I don't understand then is, why - if You shoot in for instance 15 or 7.5 fps continous - You can no longer hold the same 15 images as what You could with 30, and so get Yourself 1 or 2 seconds of pre-shooting....?
The only explanation I can find is that the camera doesn't know WHEN You are going to press the button, so it has to record/save all "potential images", so it can't just record the preshooting in 15 or 7.5 fps, as there may then be an incontinouity in timing between the last preshot image and the first not-preshot image, however, that there may be a tiny mis-timing between these two images, propably will matter little to most photographers.
- Well, another explanation could be that the preshooting is always in 30 fps, even if the camera is set for for instance 7.5 fps, so it DOES actually still record 15 images, is thát the case....???
From what I understand it’s always 15 frames. So usually 0.5 seconds but more if you set a slower framerate
@@FabianFoppNaturephotography Okidoki, thát make sense then, thanks....
Only draw back is battery
Yeah, at least it lasts longer 😊