I haven't thought of that solution. Usually I am shooting subjects at 9+ meters with the R7+800/11, so I haven't a focus distance problem. The very tight frame is a pain for tracking birds in flight, though - a full frame body could help
@@alcosound The extension tubes work really, really well. I forget about it myself a lot but I was shooting hummingbirds in Arizona and was using the 600 F4 - I LOVE that lens but the longer minimum focus distance was limiting me - so - I put a bunch on the lens to shorten my MFD and what a difference. You lose the infinity and distance shots, but since that was not what I was shooting, it was the perfect set up. Right now, Canon does not make native RF extension tubes so you have to use 3rd party. My 600 F4 III is EF and I have native EF extension tubes. I do have 3rd party RF ones though and they work too. 🙏🤗💖
Great images. I really like the ones with the eyes closed. Both of those lenses are sharp. Yes, the RF 800 f11 has limitations, long MFD, but for the money I don't know how it can be beat.
I dont think it can for the money.... you just work around the limitations as we do with any gear. Shot the R5 Mark II with the 200-800 these last couple of days. Have not even looked at those so I am eager to see how they pare together. If the 800 F11 had a shorter MFD, it would be my goto lens 95% of the time. 🙏🤗💖
Thank you, thank you. I went from my R5 to the R3 and now to the R5 Mark II. It is amazing.... but so is the R8 LOL. Canon just seems to keep upgrading each body they put out with the latest AF software. The R5 is still an amazing body so enjoy it. I think it was Wild Alaska that does a great review of the differences. I will say that I am enjoying it. If you can rent it, do it!! 🙏💖🤗
The Canon R5 Mark II is beyond my reach financially, I will keep on with the R7. I have been working and have not yet caught up with your videos. Love the closeness of your shots. I believe you are quite brill!!! I will tune in again tomorrow to see what else you are doing… Thank you! - Gaylin, Ontario Canada
Thank you, thank you Gaylin!! I love shooting my R7 - it is an amazing body. In truth, the R5 Mark II is out of my financial rage as well, but they give me credit..... so ...... I sat online with everyone and just placed my order. LOL My philosophy on life is not one that everyone should follow but I got it from my mom. Live for today, live right now. All the bills we have will be there tomorrow no matter how much we spend and they are just bills as long as the essentials are taken care of. I go out and just have fun and really do feel fortunate to be able to share. As a side note, when I edit my photos I watch videos and I am watching some Paul Rogers..... he had some strokes a bit ago that left him unable to even speak but he has worked to relearn to sing. life is short and all that matter is right now...LOL...... OK, enough tree hugging. Thank you for letting me share. The R7 is amazing and I really enjoy shooting it - enjoy it!! 🙏💖🤗
The Canon R5 II is $5899.99 here. I am paying off the RF100-500 which is $3850 here. I traded in two lenses which brought the RF100-500 down by $700. So, not ready to go deeper into payments at the moment. But one just never knows.
@@gaylinlyons6534 I get it and that is admirable. I live on the stupid side of spending. LOL The R7 is an awesome body and just enjoy it. I does have some advantages of the R5 mark II or any other full frame body. And, the images are top notch!! One thing about tech - tomorrow it is out of date and they keep tricking us into thinking we need the newest shiny toy!!! 💖🤗
Hello. Amazing video with remarkable photos of hummingbirds ! I saw in another video that you had used the EF 500mm F/4 L IS Version I. How did you compare the sharpness of this lens with the RF 100-500 ? Thank you
It has been a while since I shot that. I LOVED it but I wanted the extra reach of 600 F4 and that helped me pay for that new lens. I think people underestimate how amazing the 100-500 is. it is ungodly sharp and has a super short minimum focus distance....... and it zooms. The primes are awesome, especially in low light when you can drop it down to an F4, but it is heavy and limiting. Subject has to be a bit farther away and no zoom versatility. Like comparing apples to plumbs..... 🤣 IF IF IF Canon releases the rumored 200-500 F4 in October..... I may trade my 600 F4 for that. Not the best answer but it really depends on what you like to shoot most. I love the long prime but when something is too close, I just cant shoot it. If i had to chose one based on what and how I shoot, it would be the 100-500. I really dont think you can tell the difference in the IQ if there is one. 🙏💖🤗
Thank you Phil The Atomos was a little pricy for the limited amount that I record. I use a Shimbol recorder - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1746194-REG/shimbol_memory_i_5_5_1920x1080_touchscreen_3d.html I "scale to frame size" when editing but it works. Comes with everything but the battery and that you can get on Amazon. It has WAY more features than what I use but it does the limited amount I want it to do. I have to say that of all the bodies I have used..... this one is amazing. Not perfect, but still pretty amazing. Thank you Phil. 🙏💖🤗
Amazing work John boy,I don’t own a camera but Ive been looking at a canon r6 mark ii with the Rf 24-105 f.4L to start with,then hopefully buy a Rf 100-500 or a Rf 200-800,Ive been trying to convince myself and not listen to some other RUclipsrs for a year that my iPhone 15 pro max doesn’t a similar job,keep up the good work mate
Thank you, thank you. When I see those that say a cell phone can do what a real camera does, it makes me laugh. My response it - "lets print mega size posters and see who's images retain clarity LOL. It would be no competition. One thing about Canon is that they keep putting out their best AF on the newest bodies regardless of the sensor size. I really enjoyed shooting the R6 II but in many ways enjoyed the digital stabilization of the R8 more and the IQ was the same - the AF was the same. My other favorite is still the R7.... go figure. A camera body is just a tool with limitations. You can rent - and try them out. I rent a lot of stuff and it is all just for fun! Thank you, thank you, thank you!! 🙏💖🤗 PS A cell phone will not replace a real camera.
@@JonnyPink65 thank you so much for replying Jonny,I went from looking at the r50,r10,r8,r7 then got my way to the r6 ll by watching youtube videos,I just need to pull the trigger now Jonny,and 100% no cell phone will ever be able to match a proper camera,keep up the good work mate
I loved my RF800 even more when I simply added an inexpensive extension tube, solving the issue of getting closer. I haven't had an opportunity to try the tubes on my RF200-800, or other Canon lenses yet, but I've used them on every camera I've owned over decades, with excellent results. Nothing in photography is ever perfect, but there's generally a solution to most.
You might have to add 100mm of tube to get much closer, and then the af might not behave. I use 100mm of metal extension tubes with my 100-500 to get close to a bug.
I have not used that as of yet. I am shooting old school like I always have since the "old days" LOL. I am going back to Paton Center for Humming birds in about two weeks and I will be using it then. As far as lenses. ..... other than the 600 F4, I use what most will buy or try - the average lens. I just go out to have fun. 🙏💖🤗
This is my newest and latest sun bonnet!!! I like wearing big brim hats to keep the sun off my face and it does keep the head cooler. For me, I am not into baseball caps. I am always on the lookout for LARGE brim sun hats with the flap in the back that also keeps the sun off my neck. And if I look silly, that is OK with me!!! Thank you for noticing my big sun hat and thank you for letting me share from here in Sunny Southern California. 🙏🤗💖
You need an app like Merlin which identifies the species by photos and then when you show the hummingbirds, you can say which species of hummingbird it is. All birds would be better if indent as there are different species in different parts of the country.
I am using electronic shutter at the highest setting. For the most part - no. I see it in one or two of the wings in shots in one of the sequences - if you missed it, then it did a good job. It has less rolling shutter than my R3 for sure. It is funny but that is one thing that never bothered me. I thought the effect looked cool sometimes. My main requirements in a camera body is how well and quick it nails focus, and it that it does nail the focus. For wildlife, I think it is excellent. but so was the R5 mark 1.... and the R8..... LOL. Rolling shutter is there but did not ruin anything for me. 🙏🤗💖
@@stephenburch9178 My pleasure - thank you for taking the time to comment. I take it as a learning experience for something I should have brought up to begin with. 💖🤗
I looked at the 800mm f11 two weeks ago at my dealer and he quoted around $1,000. I am somewhat used to fixed ranges using mirror lenses. Christmas list?
It is a fun lens and it produces some amazing images. I was leery of it when it came out as an F11 lens .... until I rented it. I was so impressed, I bought one and printed a couple of 24X36" posters of owls that I shot with it- really impressed. Everything has some drawbacks. In the case of this inexpensive 800mm lens, it does need some distance to get to that minimum focus distance like my 600 F4. The 200-800 has a bit more versatility. A great lens but that was the wrong place to use it and I knew that when I took standing in the middle like that. But, I had to try. Thank you for letting me share. 🙏🤗💖
I bought a 400 f2.8 for work in 1995, being so bright it snaps into focus in an instant, but the mfd can be a problem, so I often use extension tubes. They might make the 800 f11 a better lens. How much better is the focusing on the R5ii than the original? Worth the upgrade?
Canon has not put out RF extension tubes and the after market ones..... not so good. I have tried that and found it not as great as using EF lenses with native EF extension tubes. My lens fell off with the aftermarket RF ones but I had both the body and lens strapped so nothing hit the ground. Canon's AF just gets better and better and this is no exception. I put the hummingbird in the branches in the trees to show how well it locks on. I was watching/listening to Wild Alaska talk about it how much better the AF is on this compared to the first R5. When I say they get better and better, the AF tracking on my Canon R50 is better than the R5 by a long shot. The R3 was better and so is the R8. That was body that really impressed me. Initially I say yes this is better - time will tell. I am happy I have it 🙏🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 Have bought Meiki, but not had the weather to try them out yet, will let you know. I had Canon FD tubes, but use third part EF tubes without any problems
@@blisteringbooks2428 I have native Canon EF extension tubes. I think I will have to pull them out and throw them on the 600 F4!! Meiki is what I have too and they work great but I have had them come apart on me. I was strapping both the lens and the body so neither hit the ground when they came apart. 🤗
True true. The features of the bodies these days play into it in a way the older bodies did not. The performance of these new bodies is pretty awesome!! 🙏🤗💖
If you are asking about the screen recorder, I am using a Shimbol - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1746194-REG/shimbol_memory_i_5_5_1920x1080_touchscreen_3d.html 🙏💖🤗
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I use extension tubes to reduce minimum focus distance on my 800mm f11. Zero image degradation since no optics are involved.
I do and have done that as well - works great. I just wish Canon made native ones. 🙏💖🤗
I use 3x 35mm Fotodiox RF metal extension tubes.
These Fotodiox tubes are the best.
@@nordic5490 The Fotodiox are what I have and they do work well on the 800 F11 for sure. 🤗
I haven't thought of that solution. Usually I am shooting subjects at 9+ meters with the R7+800/11, so I haven't a focus distance problem.
The very tight frame is a pain for tracking birds in flight, though - a full frame body could help
@@alcosound The extension tubes work really, really well. I forget about it myself a lot but I was shooting hummingbirds in Arizona and was using the 600 F4 - I LOVE that lens but the longer minimum focus distance was limiting me - so - I put a bunch on the lens to shorten my MFD and what a difference. You lose the infinity and distance shots, but since that was not what I was shooting, it was the perfect set up. Right now, Canon does not make native RF extension tubes so you have to use 3rd party. My 600 F4 III is EF and I have native EF extension tubes. I do have 3rd party RF ones though and they work too. 🙏🤗💖
Wow, what a great set of photos! Yes, a tool is a tool, just enjoy the time with birds. I can't agree more!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 🙏💖🤗
Great images. I really like the ones with the eyes closed.
Both of those lenses are sharp. Yes, the RF 800 f11 has limitations, long MFD, but for the money I don't know how it can be beat.
I dont think it can for the money.... you just work around the limitations as we do with any gear. Shot the R5 Mark II with the 200-800 these last couple of days. Have not even looked at those so I am eager to see how they pare together. If the 800 F11 had a shorter MFD, it would be my goto lens 95% of the time. 🙏🤗💖
Nice photos. I gather that the focus area with the 800/11 is enlarged compared to the original R5?
I think it was - i THINK. It really is no different that shooting older DSLR bodies and lenses. I am going to have to go back and take a look! 🙏🤗💖
Well done Jonny, thanks for sharing! 😀
Thank you, thank you Chris for letting me share!! 🙏💖🤗
Nice John. Thanks. I'm on the fence about uprading from my R5 to the Mark ll. I want to try to rent one for a week or so. Great shots.
Thank you, thank you. I went from my R5 to the R3 and now to the R5 Mark II. It is amazing.... but so is the R8 LOL. Canon just seems to keep upgrading each body they put out with the latest AF software. The R5 is still an amazing body so enjoy it. I think it was Wild Alaska that does a great review of the differences. I will say that I am enjoying it. If you can rent it, do it!! 🙏💖🤗
@@JonnyPink65 Isaw his review. Really good. There are quite a few. That's what got me going. Be well.
Great shoot 👍
Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🤗💖
The Canon R5 Mark II is beyond my reach financially, I will keep on with the R7. I have been working and have not yet caught up with your videos. Love the closeness of your shots. I believe you are quite brill!!! I will tune in again tomorrow to see what else you are doing…
Thank you! - Gaylin, Ontario Canada
Thank you, thank you Gaylin!! I love shooting my R7 - it is an amazing body. In truth, the R5 Mark II is out of my financial rage as well, but they give me credit..... so ...... I sat online with everyone and just placed my order. LOL My philosophy on life is not one that everyone should follow but I got it from my mom. Live for today, live right now. All the bills we have will be there tomorrow no matter how much we spend and they are just bills as long as the essentials are taken care of. I go out and just have fun and really do feel fortunate to be able to share. As a side note, when I edit my photos I watch videos and I am watching some Paul Rogers..... he had some strokes a bit ago that left him unable to even speak but he has worked to relearn to sing. life is short and all that matter is right now...LOL...... OK, enough tree hugging. Thank you for letting me share. The R7 is amazing and I really enjoy shooting it - enjoy it!! 🙏💖🤗
The Canon R5 II is $5899.99 here. I am paying off the RF100-500 which is $3850 here. I traded in two lenses which brought the RF100-500 down by $700. So, not ready to go deeper into payments at the moment. But one just never knows.
@@gaylinlyons6534 I get it and that is admirable. I live on the stupid side of spending. LOL The R7 is an awesome body and just enjoy it. I does have some advantages of the R5 mark II or any other full frame body. And, the images are top notch!! One thing about tech - tomorrow it is out of date and they keep tricking us into thinking we need the newest shiny toy!!! 💖🤗
Hello. Amazing video with remarkable photos of hummingbirds ! I saw in another video that you had used the EF 500mm F/4 L IS Version I. How did you compare the sharpness of this lens with the RF 100-500 ? Thank you
It has been a while since I shot that. I LOVED it but I wanted the extra reach of 600 F4 and that helped me pay for that new lens. I think people underestimate how amazing the 100-500 is. it is ungodly sharp and has a super short minimum focus distance....... and it zooms. The primes are awesome, especially in low light when you can drop it down to an F4, but it is heavy and limiting. Subject has to be a bit farther away and no zoom versatility. Like comparing apples to plumbs..... 🤣 IF IF IF Canon releases the rumored 200-500 F4 in October..... I may trade my 600 F4 for that. Not the best answer but it really depends on what you like to shoot most. I love the long prime but when something is too close, I just cant shoot it. If i had to chose one based on what and how I shoot, it would be the 100-500. I really dont think you can tell the difference in the IQ if there is one. 🙏💖🤗
You made a lot of great photos in this one! I like the thumbnail too. What device are you using the record your screen? Thanks, JP!
Thank you Phil The Atomos was a little pricy for the limited amount that I record. I use a Shimbol recorder - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1746194-REG/shimbol_memory_i_5_5_1920x1080_touchscreen_3d.html
I "scale to frame size" when editing but it works. Comes with everything but the battery and that you can get on Amazon. It has WAY more features than what I use but it does the limited amount I want it to do. I have to say that of all the bodies I have used..... this one is amazing. Not perfect, but still pretty amazing. Thank you Phil. 🙏💖🤗
@@JonnyPink65 thanks for the info, JP!
Amazing work John boy,I don’t own a camera but Ive been looking at a canon r6 mark ii with the Rf 24-105 f.4L to start with,then hopefully buy a Rf 100-500 or a Rf 200-800,Ive been trying to convince myself and not listen to some other RUclipsrs for a year that my iPhone 15 pro max doesn’t a similar job,keep up the good work mate
Thank you, thank you. When I see those that say a cell phone can do what a real camera does, it makes me laugh. My response it - "lets print mega size posters and see who's images retain clarity LOL. It would be no competition. One thing about Canon is that they keep putting out their best AF on the newest bodies regardless of the sensor size. I really enjoyed shooting the R6 II but in many ways enjoyed the digital stabilization of the R8 more and the IQ was the same - the AF was the same. My other favorite is still the R7.... go figure. A camera body is just a tool with limitations. You can rent - and try them out. I rent a lot of stuff and it is all just for fun! Thank you, thank you, thank you!! 🙏💖🤗
PS A cell phone will not replace a real camera.
@@JonnyPink65 thank you so much for replying Jonny,I went from looking at the r50,r10,r8,r7 then got my way to the r6 ll by watching youtube videos,I just need to pull the trigger now Jonny,and 100% no cell phone will ever be able to match a proper camera,keep up the good work mate
@@royclarke8455 Thank you, thank you. If you can get one right now.... do it. The R7 as a crop body is awesome and so is the R8 LOL!!! 💖🤗
I loved my RF800 even more when I simply added an inexpensive extension tube, solving the issue of getting closer. I haven't had an opportunity to try the tubes on my RF200-800, or other Canon lenses yet, but I've used them on every camera I've owned over decades, with excellent results. Nothing in photography is ever perfect, but there's generally a solution to most.
Absolutely. What aftermarket brand are you using? I may have to try those. I forget which ones I got. I sure with Canon would put some out. 🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 Whatever B&H sells. They have been my go to source for decades.
You might have to add 100mm of tube to get much closer, and then the af might not behave.
I use 100mm of metal extension tubes with my 100-500 to get close to a bug.
@@nordic5490 I have used them on the 100-500 as well, but prefer to just put that lens on the R7. I guess I could do BOTH!!! 🤗💖
Hi John, the photos with R5 markII are excellent and the lenses you use for wildlife. How is it with pre shooting on R5 markII John?
I have not used that as of yet. I am shooting old school like I always have since the "old days" LOL. I am going back to Paton Center for Humming birds in about two weeks and I will be using it then. As far as lenses. ..... other than the 600 F4, I use what most will buy or try - the average lens. I just go out to have fun. 🙏💖🤗
Good hat. Ozzie here. I am puzzled why Americans wear baseball caps - aka, skin cancer caps.
You are setting the right example.
This is my newest and latest sun bonnet!!! I like wearing big brim hats to keep the sun off my face and it does keep the head cooler. For me, I am not into baseball caps. I am always on the lookout for LARGE brim sun hats with the flap in the back that also keeps the sun off my neck. And if I look silly, that is OK with me!!! Thank you for noticing my big sun hat and thank you for letting me share from here in Sunny Southern California. 🙏🤗💖
You need an app like Merlin which identifies the species by photos and then when you show the hummingbirds, you can say which species of hummingbird it is. All birds would be better if indent as there are different species in different parts of the country.
I have thought about that and I keep forgetting. Thank you for the reminder. 🙏💖🤗
Were you using the electronic shutter and if so did you see any rolling shutter effects with your in flight shots?
I am using electronic shutter at the highest setting. For the most part - no. I see it in one or two of the wings in shots in one of the sequences - if you missed it, then it did a good job. It has less rolling shutter than my R3 for sure. It is funny but that is one thing that never bothered me. I thought the effect looked cool sometimes. My main requirements in a camera body is how well and quick it nails focus, and it that it does nail the focus. For wildlife, I think it is excellent. but so was the R5 mark 1.... and the R8..... LOL. Rolling shutter is there but did not ruin anything for me. 🙏🤗💖
Thanks for your informative and very prompt reply!
@@stephenburch9178 My pleasure - thank you for taking the time to comment. I take it as a learning experience for something I should have brought up to begin with. 💖🤗
I looked at the 800mm f11 two weeks ago at my dealer and he quoted around $1,000. I am somewhat used to fixed ranges using mirror lenses. Christmas list?
It is a fun lens and it produces some amazing images. I was leery of it when it came out as an F11 lens .... until I rented it. I was so impressed, I bought one and printed a couple of 24X36" posters of owls that I shot with it- really impressed. Everything has some drawbacks. In the case of this inexpensive 800mm lens, it does need some distance to get to that minimum focus distance like my 600 F4. The 200-800 has a bit more versatility. A great lens but that was the wrong place to use it and I knew that when I took standing in the middle like that. But, I had to try. Thank you for letting me share. 🙏🤗💖
I bought a 400 f2.8 for work in 1995, being so bright it snaps into focus in an instant, but the mfd can be a problem, so I often use extension tubes. They might make the 800 f11 a better lens. How much better is the focusing on the R5ii than the original? Worth the upgrade?
Canon has not put out RF extension tubes and the after market ones..... not so good. I have tried that and found it not as great as using EF lenses with native EF extension tubes. My lens fell off with the aftermarket RF ones but I had both the body and lens strapped so nothing hit the ground. Canon's AF just gets better and better and this is no exception. I put the hummingbird in the branches in the trees to show how well it locks on. I was watching/listening to Wild Alaska talk about it how much better the AF is on this compared to the first R5. When I say they get better and better, the AF tracking on my Canon R50 is better than the R5 by a long shot. The R3 was better and so is the R8. That was body that really impressed me. Initially I say yes this is better - time will tell. I am happy I have it 🙏🤗💖
@@JonnyPink65 Have bought Meiki, but not had the weather to try them out yet, will let you know. I had Canon FD tubes, but use third part EF tubes without any problems
@@blisteringbooks2428 I have native Canon EF extension tubes. I think I will have to pull them out and throw them on the 600 F4!! Meiki is what I have too and they work great but I have had them come apart on me. I was strapping both the lens and the body so neither hit the ground when they came apart. 🤗
Invest in the best glass you can afford & upgrade your camera body when you can.
True true. The features of the bodies these days play into it in a way the older bodies did not. The performance of these new bodies is pretty awesome!! 🙏🤗💖
What screen you using please.
If you are asking about the screen recorder, I am using a Shimbol - www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1746194-REG/shimbol_memory_i_5_5_1920x1080_touchscreen_3d.html
🙏💖🤗