I like how excited Lee and Pete seem to be every day at work. They seem to genuinely love demoing gear. Thanks for all the videos over the past 8 years or so I've been watching you all.
For those who might not be aware, Valeton has been around for quite a bit. While I personally do not yet place them at the very top of the Chinese pedal world alongside Mooer, NuX and Joyo, Valeton does make good, competent pedals at a very compelling price. I have a few of their older gen mini pedals and while none are spectacular, they certainly do the job nicely. Looks like Valeton are upping their game here. The Dapper appears to be crazy good value for a simple 3 effect device but the looper seems to be a real killer. Good stuff and nice to see Valeton trying.
I've got one of their old Boss FET Preamp clones. It's a fantastic pedal. That Loft series was always weird to me, because they were cloning cheap pedals (Blues Driver, DS-1) and selling them for more than the real thing, but also cloning discontinued/rare pedals too (FA-1, OD-1, DM-2 etc...), and those were great! I'm pretty sure this was pre-Waza, so this was the only way to get some of these effects outside of the vintage market. Too bad the whole Loft series got discontinued, I presume because they're were going to get sued into oblivion by Roland. Now their pedal lineup is more-or-less the same as every other Chinese company
@@senorchivo90 To be fair to the loft series it had built in Keeley mods and a Keeley modded DS-1 and BD-2 are much more expensive than the stock version. Also the OD-1, FA-2 and DM-2 shouldn't be expensive for boss to remake (except the original OD-1 with the special chip). BOSS has decided to remake old pedals in Waza version only which is much higher quality.
Imo these are super underrated and are worth way more than advertised..super versatile if nothing else..for peanuts...many brand name pedals are punching far lower with much higher price tags...and compared to other pedals of same price point it's not even close in most comparisons..the digital higher end stuff valeton makes has had me checking them out so this is great timing for me!! Thanks again gang! We love you all over here in upstate NY
Pete, as a Norwegian, I agree on the chocolate talk! Having Freia and Nidar milk chocolate bars here, other countries take on milk chocolate is so horrible! Also, nice pedals !
Pete's face when Lee's talking about the baritone being an inch-and-a-half longer. Classic Pete. 🤘 Went on a tear couple years back for a while, buying every dirt cheap pedal I could find just to see what was out there. Most were cheaper at the time than some folks spend on coffee every day now. Picked up a Valeton La' Charger distortion for $16 new off eBay at the time and I dig it, and still use it. The 11-setting delay was also not bad for $20. Requires some very fine tuning to find the right settings, because the variation as you roll the tiny dials is pretty dramatic. The distortion, at least, needs its own isolated power supply - don't chain it with a $5 daisy cable or it'll hum greatly.
I have a purple one of these Valeton multi-fx. It has modulation, reverb, and delay. It isn't the best thing in the world, but it's fun. For about $70, it's a worthwhile purchase. It is well-built and sounds good - I'd give it a 7/10. Great for ambient tones.
I have had a dapper mini for years, its great for what you get, obviously if you got a seperate delay, chorus and/or overdrive/distortion they would be better, but for what you get its a steal.
Cornish clotted cream on Cornish ice cream and covered in hazelnuts - known as the 'Hedgehog.' Buy it on Swanpool beach in Falmouth, great after a swim!
I had the blue Dapper Amp and it sounded really good (purchased for 30$), only claim it was a bit noisy and the volume management between the channels was challenging. However good starting tools!
I love my volume after my drives and my wah before my drives...is there a volume/wah pedal with two ins and outs so you can have more realstate? is that even posible? (i´m thinking out loud here)
I love my Cube Sugar. You should definitely talk about that pedal. It was $200 when I bought it. Ridiculous amount of things on it to make your sound exclusive or unique, or to just sound like the monsters of rock. Go for it!
I haven't plugged in my slotva and I already have buyers remorse because of the coral. Hershey is good Sees candy has a wonderful candy called Bordeaux but I do love the cream egg from Cadbury.
Villars chocolate is the best ! Especially the one with creamy caramel inside, or the one with biscuit chunks in them, I’ll send you some if you want ! :)
Great vid guys, I love these little strip pedals for practicality (and price!)…I’ve had the Mini for about 2 years now, bought the Indie for a fly rig about a year ago and also have the MDR which is basically a signal “end” (Modulation, Delay and Reverb) and goes on my mini board / test rig. Bit of volume suck with the MDR but, broadly, they’re ideal 😁
how do you like it now? I bought a cheap-o Lekato (similar to Cuvave) version. Nice to "convert" my 'lil 90's peavey practice amp into a Line 6/Mustang/Micro Cube/etc type thing but it's so convenient I'm contemplating replacing my gigging setup
Got a question regarding the Dapper Mini... Would this thing go into the Effects Loop, or in front of the Amp? It has distortion and OD which generally go in the front, but then delay and chorus should go in the FX Loop. OD might not be safe for the amp if connected to FX Loop, or so they say, but then delay and chorus in the front would get maybe a bit muddy and/or distorted. Now I got the Mustang III, but I guess same would apply to say Boss Katana, so someone here might have the right answer :) Thanks in advance for any input
I've had the full Dapper for many years and have a short review in my account. It's great, but (at least my unit) it has a high shelf that really takes out the highs... I think around 3-4K ..
Hi guys thank you for the review ! I was just looking another review of the Dapper Indie on a brazilian channel and the guy seemed to be not so happy with it, and I honestly cannot understand why, cause everything I can hear from this device is very decent / good in mater of quality and sound IMHO ! I am a professionnal musician ( sound engineer and saxophonist since two decades ) and I'm a guitare student since few months now. I'm very interested of buying one of these Dapper Indie ( especially because I am on a budget ) It seem to be a clone of the Tech 21 Fly Rig ( probably with less effects and with a lower quality build I guess ) but it seem VERY interesting for the price ! ( 85 euros in France ) Could you guys please tell me what is your professionnal and true opinion on this this gear ? I personnally think that for the price it costs, I'll never find better EFX for playing alternative rock / indie / and grunge, am I wrong to think this ? Thank for your answer guys, would be trully appreciated
I love this haha! I am partial to Lindt chocolate. Most of it is made in Germany I believe. If you ever come to America, Hershey’s chocolate is basically the same as Cadbury.
I don't know how about others, but i have pretty bad experience with these. I had a Valeton Dapper. It sounded ok, but after two weeks two footswitches broke down, one partly and one completely. When I then returned it to my local music store, they told me I was like the seventh person that week that returned one because of reliability issues and that they will probably stop stocking them. Maybe others have other experience, but this is just what i experienced...
I use to have the acoustic mini version for around 3 years, it is going strong until I sold mine because I play mainly electric now. It’s awesome for its’ price.
I had the same experience with the dapper Mini. After two returns i bought the Tech 21 rk5 flyrig, which is a great and reliable unit :). That was maybe 3 years ago, maybe they got better quality now :)
Its earliy days for us - we've carried the pedals for about 6 weeks - sold quite a few & haven't had any back yet... maybe they've changed some components since your experience??
Sorry what pedals was this video covering? I was too hypnotised by the dabbing I lost my way throughout the entirety of this video. For me it was the gentleness in the dab, just beautiful...
Ok, first of all, you guys need to talk more about chocolate. That’s hilarious 😂 (Peter is right, of course…says the other Dane.) Lee, how ‘bout those eye glasses?!? Valeton pedals - wouldn’t mind a couple of those 👍🏻
Real chocolate is like real blues. You have to work you way from a child with the sweet and flashy to an adult with the laid back flavors of the dark side.
Milk chocolate? Irish made Cadbury's is the best - often UK Twirl bars are made with it. Take a look at the batch code on a Cadbury's bar. If it starts with 0CO it's Irish (C=Coolock), if it starts with 0BO it's British (B=Bournville). If the code starts with 0W or 0Z or anything like that, likely made in Wroclaw or elsewhere in eastern Europe...
These cheaper pedals are getting better and better. I am currently using a Soniccake mini delay as my main delay now. If you would have told me id be using a $25 delay pedal as my main delay years ago.... I wouldnt have believed you. Just like some of the cheaper guitars being made these days, you dont have to spend an arm and a leg to get good stuff anymore.
Very interesting. As for the chocolate: in the 1960's I was eating English Cadbury's chocolate...delicious a glass and a half of full cream milk in a reasonably small bar. Then move back to Australia and Cadbury's Australia got the same Coco from the same part of Africa. The military dictatorship from around there wanted as much money as possible so they forced the farmers to over produce and turned the area into near desert. Some of these modern chocolates don't have any Coco products in them. There is a fruit from Mexico that looks like a green apple and it has so strong flavour that you can't eat them when they're ripe. It is has super-concentrated chocolate flavour. Western companies first started using it in chocolate flavoured liqueur but now it's used to flavour fake chocolate. That way they can't be forced to say it artificially flavoured.
I think they were going for the mid 2000s meets 90s thing with the indie. I ahree with Pete on chocolate, anything less than 40 percent cocoa is not chocolate its just some kind of chocolately confectionery.
Definitely Cadburys Fruit and Nut! We could turn Pete's argument against him and say our chocolate doesn't taste good to him because he's used to the rubbish he grew up with, hehe.
Such great stuff for beginners today ... i'm gettin' totalitarry jauleious ... we had nottin' or an Italian made WahFuzz these days 😵🤧🤢 Nice stuff in a great funny demo ... that's whot i call teatime TV ... thanks a lottl (like Lance a Lottl from the holy grail movie 🥳 ... don't let the 🐇get you!
I like how excited Lee and Pete seem to be every day at work. They seem to genuinely love demoing gear. Thanks for all the videos over the past 8 years or so I've been watching you all.
Lee keeps nitrous oxide pumped into the central air unit in order to keep everyone happy
I mean, who wouldn't!
Pete playing an Affinity through super budget pedals is undeniable evidence that tone is in the archer, not the arrow.
it's a classic vibe
Pete looking so much healthier - after his insta post i've been noticing. Good for him!
Danish Pete ... the greatest 7-year-old guitarist ever.
That’s me 😎
@@danishpete Don't ever change, man. It brightens my day.
Could you please put together a long blooper reel ? There has to be hours of gold.
👏👏Pete is, in fact, my favorite Dane after Ragnar. They both are masters at wielding the Axe! 🤘😎🎸🐙💥
Enjoyed the extended chocolate discussion. Pete was so passionate about it 😂
For those who might not be aware, Valeton has been around for quite a bit. While I personally do not yet place them at the very top of the Chinese pedal world alongside Mooer, NuX and Joyo, Valeton does make good, competent pedals at a very compelling price. I have a few of their older gen mini pedals and while none are spectacular, they certainly do the job nicely.
Looks like Valeton are upping their game here. The Dapper appears to be crazy good value for a simple 3 effect device but the looper seems to be a real killer.
Good stuff and nice to see Valeton trying.
I've got one of their old Boss FET Preamp clones. It's a fantastic pedal. That Loft series was always weird to me, because they were cloning cheap pedals (Blues Driver, DS-1) and selling them for more than the real thing, but also cloning discontinued/rare pedals too (FA-1, OD-1, DM-2 etc...), and those were great! I'm pretty sure this was pre-Waza, so this was the only way to get some of these effects outside of the vintage market. Too bad the whole Loft series got discontinued, I presume because they're were going to get sued into oblivion by Roland. Now their pedal lineup is more-or-less the same as every other Chinese company
@@senorchivo90 To be fair to the loft series it had built in Keeley mods and a Keeley modded DS-1 and BD-2 are much more expensive than the stock version. Also the OD-1, FA-2 and DM-2 shouldn't be expensive for boss to remake (except the original OD-1 with the special chip). BOSS has decided to remake old pedals in Waza version only which is much higher quality.
Here for the daps or dabs.. 😎
16:13 Thanks Pete for the Lee 's lick. I was missing so much!!
I'd love to see the uncensored version of these videos...
Right? Can we get a non-monetized Anderton's After Dark channel, please?
27:00 exactly
Imo these are super underrated and are worth way more than advertised..super versatile if nothing else..for peanuts...many brand name pedals are punching far lower with much higher price tags...and compared to other pedals of same price point it's not even close in most comparisons..the digital higher end stuff valeton makes has had me checking them out so this is great timing for me!! Thanks again gang! We love you all over here in upstate NY
The chorus on the Mini has a feature that many cheap ones don't - it doesn't kill the highs.
Cool guys! I’ve had the Dapper Mini for some years now and it great for Rehearsals and Live! Please keep up the Good Work. Cheers from Salem, Ohio US!
I always thought about maybe buying one of these for little gigs. They sound pretty good. Also could be cus it’s Pete playing why it sounds so good.
Pete, as a Norwegian, I agree on the chocolate talk! Having Freia and Nidar milk chocolate bars here, other countries take on milk chocolate is so horrible!
Also, nice pedals !
Pete's face when Lee's talking about the baritone being an inch-and-a-half longer. Classic Pete. 🤘
Went on a tear couple years back for a while, buying every dirt cheap pedal I could find just to see what was out there. Most were cheaper at the time than some folks spend on coffee every day now.
Picked up a Valeton La' Charger distortion for $16 new off eBay at the time and I dig it, and still use it. The 11-setting delay was also not bad for $20. Requires some very fine tuning to find the right settings, because the variation as you roll the tiny dials is pretty dramatic. The distortion, at least, needs its own isolated power supply - don't chain it with a $5 daisy cable or it'll hum greatly.
Is this recording directly into the line or through the amp? Direct to soundcard?
The Indie sounds nice!
I love the fact that you open up with this great guitarist. 👍🏻
I have a purple one of these Valeton multi-fx. It has modulation, reverb, and delay. It isn't the best thing in the world, but it's fun. For about $70, it's a worthwhile purchase. It is well-built and sounds good - I'd give it a 7/10. Great for ambient tones.
Great music, lots of great information and laughter. Best channel on RUclips. Thanks everyone!
I have had a dapper mini for years, its great for what you get, obviously if you got a seperate delay, chorus and/or overdrive/distortion they would be better, but for what you get its a steal.
rum and raisins Bournville bar it also wards of the effects of dementors.
many thanks its yummy.
Cornish clotted cream on Cornish ice cream and covered in hazelnuts - known as the 'Hedgehog.' Buy it on Swanpool beach in Falmouth, great after a swim!
I had the blue Dapper Amp and it sounded really good (purchased for 30$), only claim it was a bit noisy and the volume management between the channels was challenging. However good starting tools!
2:40 It's called dabbing, Pete. I just learned that recently from the Impractical Jokers. 😁
Plate B vs. W - might be "Bright" and "Warm" respectively?
Have you tried to press and hold the frase switch? Maybe it moves to a different phrase when holding down without stopping...
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was such a fun video to watch....thanks
I love the English humor…and with the accent and “propa” “dapper” horseplay, this is a fun video.
I love my volume after my drives and my wah before my drives...is there a volume/wah pedal with two ins and outs so you can have more realstate? is that even posible? (i´m thinking out loud here)
I think Pete has been to the pub.
I like the long videos because after 2 hours stuff gets real
That might be the looper I was looking for
Love the long videos 😎☮️
I love my Cube Sugar. You should definitely talk about that pedal. It was $200 when I bought it. Ridiculous amount of things on it to make your sound exclusive or unique, or to just sound like the monsters of rock. Go for it!
I haven't plugged in my slotva and I already have buyers remorse because of the coral. Hershey is good Sees candy has a wonderful candy called Bordeaux but I do love the cream egg from Cadbury.
Villars chocolate is the best ! Especially the one with creamy caramel inside, or the one with biscuit chunks in them, I’ll send you some if you want ! :)
That’s not even chocolate. It’s a candy bar with ‘chocolate’.
OMG, you guys had me cracking up laughing on that dapper stuff. LMAO! 😂
Great vid guys, I love these little strip pedals for practicality (and price!)…I’ve had the Mini for about 2 years now, bought the Indie for a fly rig about a year ago and also have the MDR which is basically a signal “end” (Modulation, Delay and Reverb) and goes on my mini board / test rig. Bit of volume suck with the MDR but, broadly, they’re ideal 😁
how do you like it now? I bought a cheap-o Lekato (similar to Cuvave) version. Nice to "convert" my 'lil 90's peavey practice amp into a Line 6/Mustang/Micro Cube/etc type thing but it's so convenient I'm contemplating replacing my gigging setup
26:00 WOW.
Got a question regarding the Dapper Mini... Would this thing go into the Effects Loop, or in front of the Amp?
It has distortion and OD which generally go in the front, but then delay and chorus should go in the FX Loop.
OD might not be safe for the amp if connected to FX Loop, or so they say, but then delay and chorus in the front
would get maybe a bit muddy and/or distorted.
Now I got the Mustang III, but I guess same would apply to say Boss Katana, so someone here might have the right answer :)
Thanks in advance for any input
I have that little amp head and it is shockingly good. I love that little thing
I've had the full Dapper for many years and have a short review in my account.
It's great, but (at least my unit) it has a high shelf that really takes out the highs... I think around 3-4K ..
Lindt my favourite chocolate BY FAR! Pedals sounded alright too.
Thank you, great video, and humorous🙃. Since the price is so affordable? The looper can achieve 'Verse' and Separate Chorus' if One simply buys Two😇🎼
Will you do a review on the acoustic pedal at some point?
What is the name of the Adidas basketball boots you wearing Pete?
I agree with Pete about the Chocolate.
Hi guys thank you for the review ! I was just looking another review of the Dapper Indie on a brazilian channel and the guy seemed to be not so happy with it, and I honestly cannot understand why, cause everything I can hear from this device is very decent / good in mater of quality and sound IMHO !
I am a professionnal musician ( sound engineer and saxophonist since two decades ) and I'm a guitare student since few months now. I'm very interested of buying one of these Dapper Indie ( especially because I am on a budget ) It seem to be a clone of the Tech 21 Fly Rig ( probably with less effects and with a lower quality build I guess ) but it seem VERY interesting for the price ! ( 85 euros in France )
Could you guys please tell me what is your professionnal and true opinion on this this gear ? I personnally think that for the price it costs, I'll never find better EFX for playing alternative rock / indie / and grunge, am I wrong to think this ?
Thank for your answer guys, would be trully appreciated
Cuvave Cube Baby and its IRs send regards to other small frame buddies!
Good review of the affordable pedals that are now available. By the way the best chocolates come from Belgium and is world famous.
I love this haha! I am partial to Lindt chocolate. Most of it is made in Germany I believe. If you ever come to America, Hershey’s chocolate is basically the same as Cadbury.
0:47 I see what you did there Pete
10:10: double dab!
Petes first solo was dapper!
I don't know how about others, but i have pretty bad experience with these. I had a Valeton Dapper. It sounded ok, but after two weeks two footswitches broke down, one partly and one completely. When I then returned it to my local music store, they told me I was like the seventh person that week that returned one because of reliability issues and that they will probably stop stocking them.
Maybe others have other experience, but this is just what i experienced...
I use to have the acoustic mini version for around 3 years, it is going strong until I sold mine because I play mainly electric now. It’s awesome for its’ price.
I had the same experience with the dapper Mini. After two returns i bought the Tech 21 rk5 flyrig, which is a great and reliable unit :). That was maybe 3 years ago, maybe they got better quality now :)
Its earliy days for us - we've carried the pedals for about 6 weeks - sold quite a few & haven't had any back yet... maybe they've changed some components since your experience??
@@andertons That would be amazing. If the footswitches are more reliable now, i will definitely buy the looper.
Looked at the chapters titles... The best is "Lee & Pete argue over chocolate" 🤣🤣
From eBay to Andertons a true success history
2:39 Pete, you're street cred and drip level just went through the roof, welcome to Fortnite
No intention of buying any of this although seems good value but great entertainment! :D
😄
Do people still use chorus? 😅 asking for a friend
Very kind of you guys leading us to the rabbit hole for not much money. 😂😂👍🥃Respect to you fellas.
Always been a bugbear with Multi fx, how to have more than one on at a time and how to switch between with a simple tap.....
I have the Valeton GP200 Multi Eff Processor. Great value, great sound, and so many useful effects. Amps are great. Chheck it out
Sorry what pedals was this video covering? I was too hypnotised by the dabbing I lost my way throughout the entirety of this video. For me it was the gentleness in the dab, just beautiful...
What is it about the Wah pedal that just so f***ing cool!
Such a shame dapper dark was discontinued( not verified). It has some of the nicest hi gain effect.
The hummingbird is one of the most dabber of the entire animal kingdom
Ok, first of all, you guys need to talk more about chocolate. That’s hilarious 😂 (Peter is right, of course…says the other Dane.)
Lee, how ‘bout those eye glasses?!?
Valeton pedals - wouldn’t mind a couple of those 👍🏻
Real chocolate is like real blues. You have to work you way from a child with the sweet and flashy to an adult with the laid back flavors of the dark side.
Milk chocolate? Irish made Cadbury's is the best - often UK Twirl bars are made with it. Take a look at the batch code on a Cadbury's bar. If it starts with 0CO it's Irish (C=Coolock), if it starts with 0BO it's British (B=Bournville). If the code starts with 0W or 0Z or anything like that, likely made in Wroclaw or elsewhere in eastern Europe...
Lee's got his serious head on today.
These cheaper pedals are getting better and better. I am currently using a Soniccake mini delay as my main delay now. If you would have told me id be using a $25 delay pedal as my main delay years ago.... I wouldnt have believed you. Just like some of the cheaper guitars being made these days, you dont have to spend an arm and a leg to get good stuff anymore.
OMG ILOVE THIS VIDEO! LAUGHED LIKE HELL!
Can anyone tell me what sneakers Pete is wearing?
Very interesting. As for the chocolate: in the 1960's I was eating English Cadbury's chocolate...delicious a glass and a half of full cream milk in a reasonably small bar. Then move back to Australia and Cadbury's Australia got the same Coco from the same part of Africa. The military dictatorship from around there wanted as much money as possible so they forced the farmers to over produce and turned the area into near desert. Some of these modern chocolates don't have any Coco products in them. There is a fruit from Mexico that looks like a green apple and it has so strong flavour that you can't eat them when they're ripe. It is has super-concentrated chocolate flavour. Western companies first started using it in chocolate flavoured liqueur but now it's used to flavour fake chocolate.
That way they can't be forced to say it artificially flavoured.
I Love that black Tele, but as usual, NO LEFTY so It SUCKS!!!
Peter har helt rätt om chokladen.
Dark Chocolate Expresso beans are a roaring riot!
I think they were going for the mid 2000s meets 90s thing with the indie. I ahree with Pete on chocolate, anything less than 40 percent cocoa is not chocolate its just some kind of chocolately confectionery.
This video sold me on the baritone rather than the pedals!
Picking up vines of the Johnny Dapper and Amber Turd trial 🤣
Very Tech 21 Fly-Rig ish'.
Definitely Cadburys Fruit and Nut! We could turn Pete's argument against him and say our chocolate doesn't taste good to him because he's used to the rubbish he grew up with, hehe.
Danish Pete is on fire today hahaha
Very funny 😁
The dab/dap sound effect had my laughing so hard. These gents have great onscreen chemistry.
Such great stuff for beginners today ... i'm gettin' totalitarry jauleious ... we had nottin' or an Italian made WahFuzz these days 😵🤧🤢
Nice stuff in a great funny demo ... that's whot i call teatime TV ... thanks a lottl (like Lance a Lottl from the holy grail movie 🥳 ... don't let the 🐇get you!
It's dab Pete.
Another Dane here. Our chocolate is way better, no joke. Marabou from Sweden too. It's not even close.
Over 70% Coco solids for me
Love seeing the Dane do the Dapper!!! Hahahahahahaha!!
The Valeton multi fx came out after the release of the Tech 21 fly rig for. All the Chinese companies copied that piece
I love Pete's flying farts
I did not expect a chocolate argument.
It seems like the same OEM board that comes in the Donner/Joyo/Mooer. Just buy whatever the cheapest one on Amazon is that day.
Danish Pete is entirely right about chocolate.
Can’t go wrong with tony Chocolonely
These look suspiciously like the Donner brand stuff we have in the US. Even the name is almost the same.