I just received the SPB143 for my 30th birthday 3 days ago. It's been a grail watch that I've been chasing for the past 2 years and I have to say, it is incredible. I don't think anybody will be truly disappointed with it. Is it worth the £1100/$1200 price tag? I believe the answer is subjective but the important thing is how you feel when you wear the watch and I would highly recommend this watch to anybody.
Whoa. I got one for my 30th birthday last year too. That's funny. But yes, I share your sentiment. This watch might be a bit expensive when you look at objective value, but it's got that X-factor that a lot of other watches don't.
Lol. I almost bought one for my 30th too! For me, I decided to spend a little more to get a Sinn EZM 3 which I am happy with. But I still have the want for this Seiko. The design is so clean and so damn good looking. I was looking for the best I could get for the money. It all came down to the movement for me. I couldn’t justify the price tag for a movement that potentially be around ± 30 sec a day.
Well said. These are an absolute joy to wear. I wish the movement was regulated with 4hz and they should have included the bracelet and silicone strap together. This would have made the asking price more fair IMO. The dimensions and case design is perfect! The dials also look amazing.
I picked up the spb147 for my 40th at full retail. I had internet window shopped for ages before this and had my heart set on an alpinist but wasn’t too keen when I saw it in the AD. Love my 147 and no regrets.
Before pulling the trigger on the SPB143, I compared it against the Mido Oceanstar and Doxa Sub200. The Mido wore big for me while I don't fancy the beads of rice bracelet on the Doxa. Settled for the 143 and never regretted since.
I did the same thing, I really liked the doxa and I was really ready to have my very first “swiss made” watch but after a lot of research I finally decided on spb143. It really is the perfect watch.
I think Seiko product management is did well with the SPB143 for two reasons: a) They have a winning design and they know it. b) They have built a fan base with their lower-tier offerings that is inherently interested in the design, far more than other manufacturers that would directly compete at that level. While people fuss over specs, I think it eventually it always boils down to design and wearability. Teddy was right pointing out the secondary market pricing. It's hard to argue the price if the watch is actually selling at that price point.
I got my SPB143 for just $645 USD from a guy who has "too many watches" he said and willing to let this one go. I was so lucky and delighted to upgrade from my skx013. OH SWEET JESUS I'm in LOVE with it, rocking it daily. My point is, if you think it is not worth the price tag, or simiply could not afford one like I do, just be patient, there are affortable deals out there. I have seen similar deals but didn't act quick enough.
I didnt know these Seikos existed, and had saved up for an Oris Aquis, got on Chrono24 to buy the Aquis and the SPB147 popped up in my suggested, and I bought it on the spot. Just immediately fell in love with it, first time i saw it, which hasn’t happened very often. I later got the Aquis, and its a better watch, but i find myself wearing the 147 more often than not, its just to dang good lookin’, can’t get away from it.
Totally agree with the points Teddy. I'm an owner of a SPB143 and honestly it's been a watch you don't want to take off the wrist. The design language sets it apart from the competition and could easily see this becoming a future classic. Mine seems to perform much better than spec and it's a strap monster
I went on the spb213, which is the limited edition “arctic” white-blue version of this series. It is a bit of pity that it was not mentioned in this video. It is truly beautiful shiny masterpiece. I agree that for this price there are good other options to consider, but due to my small wrist size I took this one because this wears really perfect on any wrist size. 🎉
Nice review. The throwback to the old 60s design is what sets it apart - I agree with you mentioning the vintage Submariner as a similar vibe. Assuming we will get standard (excellent) Seiko reliability from the movement I personally think it's worth paying the extra for the design. It looks really tool like / cool - and that's what you want from a dive watch.
I think this is a general throwback people are loving right now to the sixties. I think Japan in the sixties was interesting to look at. The 64 olyimpics. A welcoming back to international recognition. My shouldn’t we consider this time period as a way to cut through the crap and and get back to basics.
I bought myself a 143 when I graduated university... It's the perfect 1 watch collection and I love it to bits... Its a strap monster too. They grey dial takes on the personality of any strap making it incredibly versatile. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. Definitely a killer watch
I’ve been wearing my 149 most days for the last 21 months. Accurate to +5 to +10 spd. Closer to +5 spd if I wear it daily for several weeks. Bracelet is fine - I don’t like the divers extension. The Dia Shield coating is legit. To me, it’s worth the price. I keep thinking I want a BB58, but this is so good I can’t justify the expenditure. Great video Teddy!
Make sure you like the design of BB58 before jumping on it. I personally think that it is boring when checking out at AD. While I really like my SPB213, and my gone but not forgotten 147.
I pulled the trigger on the 143 last month. I can attest to the movement being around around +4 to +6 seconds a day for me after a month's worth of daily wear. I absolutely love this watch! absolutely brilliant move by seiko and worth the price
No they are not too expensive. Simple answer. The SPB143 is the best release of Seiko of the past few years and is a great bang for buck vintage diver that fits very well in a lot of categories.
You are delusional. This is a 6/800 watch. At this price could be a best buy as the old SKX at 200$ was a great buy back in the days. This is better and a great watch overall but too expensive. I can buy Certina DS diver for 800$ and comes with powermatic 80.
I got the SPB143 last summer, and asked for a discount from a jeweller's and they offered 20% off which I was happy with. The watch itself is a beauty on the wrist, with a few strap options it works for all occasions. I usually wear it on a vintage style rubber but also pair it with a distressed leather strap for more dressier events. Never looks out of place.
@@matthewdouglas2373 Just ask what's the minimum price they could sell it for, all prices advertised are "RRP" but most jeweller's will have an allowance to sell it cheaper, just have to ask.
I own the 143, it is my absolute favorite watch! I am a seiko fan boy, but when I opened the package, I was blown away! I did watch this video as well before I bought it, thank you Teddy!
I think it’s a a super classic design. I think the 38-41mm size is the sweet spot for most people and this fits right in. I think the Hamilton Khaki Navy is something you’d cross shop with this but I’m not a fan of the micro hashmarks on the bezel from 0-15 - which the Navy does have. I love this line and am looking to get the spb 213 140th anniversary shortly.
@raypolakowski7172 did you ever end up adding the spb213 to your collection?! I find that silver/white dial with the blue bezel to be the most attractive but I can’t seem to find many available. Certainly not at a Seiko AD
Found a great case from tokeilab and original dials and built myself a SPB143 and a SPB213 both for around $500,- each using NH35s. As you said it's the look that makes this design standout. I may only have about 40hrs of power reserve but apart from that the pieces look and feel great, work well and they even have signed crowns. Love my two 60s divers!
I have the 239, it took me a long time to pull the trigger, but it has met or exceeded my expectations. The bezel action is very nice, the proportions are spot on and I really like the two straps it comes with. Indeed the challenge I find is to not wear it all the time. It succeeds at looking old and brand new at the same time. It stands out, by not standing out! It's almost a cliché that average people don't notice our watches, but this one? I get compliments on frequently. I get a chuckle out of people complaining about gaining 3 seconds a day! 🤣 Seriously? If you're concerned about a mechanical watch gaining 3 seconds a day you've got serious issues that aren't watch related. IMHO Seiko hit a home run here, as evidenced by the fact the mine is still selling for pretty much what I paid for it!
Give it a year... the 6r15s went to crap after a year or so and the watchmakers I have talked to that have worked on both the 6r15 and 6r35 say they are just garbage movements. My skx is 10x more accurate than my sbp 6r15 after a year. It is a $40-60 movement in a $1200 watch. My 6139 is much better han both. Sadly I feel seiko has lost their way.
This series is just about perfect for a dive watch, and I have multiple Seiko and GS dive watches, as well as a few others. Price is a bit high, but the satisfaction to finally be wearing what I've been searching for my entire adult life is worth it. Well, done, Seiko!
I absolutely love my sbp143, I got it as an engagement gift from my fiance, i love it's history and design and it can handle anything. Only issues is its top heaviness and most of all it does not keep time great, I have to set it once a week. Still worth it though.
It is a little expensive when you consider the same movement is in other cheaper watches. But you really are paying for the design. I’ve got the brown dial spb147 and it’s stunning. There are very subtle refinements in the brushing and polished coin edge bezel. the size is perfect. They have really nailed the reinterpretation of the original 62mas. E.g The original had big rectangular hour markers. The markers on this appear rectangular but there is a really subtle taper on the 1/2 4/5 etc. which just gives them more breathing space and a more modern feel rather than bulky rectangles getting too close at the corners. A very considered and beautiful looking watch.
I have an SPB239, and I like it. I think it looks classy and distinctive, and feel you get a fair value for what it costs. The lume on mine also glows bright blue.
As a huge watch enthusiast and owner of the spb143 i can only say this: It is not worth 1200 dollars on paper but it will probably make you smile like nothing else in this price point. The design is sharp, subtle, simple, in other words great. Quoting Teddy: "This blows everything out of the water"
At $1200 I think the only way this makes you smile like nothing else is you’re already part of the Seiko cult. The history of Seiko is one of value and that moniker digs deep in the category this watch is priced in. For $1200 you can get into a Doxa Sub that is an icon in the dive watch category. It’s history is a focused and precise dedication instantly recognized by those who dive in water not spread sheets. Now for those people that watch will make them smile like no other at $1200 and it doesn’t have that “value” stigma attached to it. What’s more is non-divers want a piece of that Doxa prestige pie and $1200 is a fair price to eat at that table. I’m not a fan of Seiko because I’m old enough to know where they come from. They were the more expensive drug store watches you’d see displayed in a rotating plastic case with Timex, Citizen, Casio, and Pulsar. When I say drug stores I mean that literally. Seikos were well made mass market watches at a slightly higher premium than the other every man watches you could buy for $30. They never really became more than that to many of us. It also doesn’t help they caused the Quartz crisis either. Regardless of my lack of respect for the brand I do believe their design language is solid, if a little too busy most of the time. At $500 I’m not really interested but at $1200 I’m offended. I don’t care what it says on paper when every time I look down I see Seiko on the dial. That is the uphill battle they brought on themselves. Grand Seiko definitely raises the tide for its little brother but they are fighting the same battle at a higher price point. Both brands offer good value at their normal price points but once they stretch beyond that value range they see push back. A GS at $10k is good value but at $20k it’s a joke. Once they start competing with JLC, Breguet, and the like there will be a much different story unfold than their current battle with Rolex. They aren’t winning the Rolex battle but there is much sympathy for the brand. They are doing what they’ve always done, offer a solid value proposition that lacks full on status and prestige carried by their higher priced counterparts. That is their 100 year old game and it not only brought them success but cemented their place as a cheaper alternative to watches we really want.
@@thenutcracker2921 your bias aside you have to acknowledge the history and heritage of the Seiko company. Yes they made cheap watches for the mass market but they were also one of the first to make an automatic chronograph watch, the first Japanese dive watch, the first automatic chronograph to go to space and let's not forget Credor. I think your bias has blinded you to the fact that this company has been making some of the greatest watches and has a history that rivals any of the major swiss brands. The company was founded in 1881, always been independent, make their own in house movements, have many world firsts in horology and never been bought out by swatch group. How many other watch brands can claim the same? Seiko heritage and history is up there with some of the best in the world. But because they make affordable watches for the every man along with some very high end and special time pieces people tend to look down on them.
@@thenutcracker2921 The Seiko of your youth is not the Seiko of today. Second, GS are not competing with Rolex. They mostly specialise in elevated dress watches. That is not what Rolex do at all. They are not a cheaper alternative to anything. Their watches have their own identity, design language and proprietary movements. Agree that GS at 20k is far too much, but most of their watches don't cost anywhere near that, and the main reason they can't charge that much and get away with it is because of the lack of brand recognition and interesting complications. There is also no real reason to spend more than 8 to 10k on a GS because you can get almost all the same features in their 5 to 8k offerings.
@@lamentate07 1. Seiko of today are indeed not the Seiko of my youth because back then they were the kings of cheap watches. That honor now goes to Casio so in a way they are worse now than then. Regardless of quality the desire and respect given to those cheap ugly Casios far exceed that of Seiko. It is common for collectors to have multi-million dollar watch collections with a Casio included but no Seiko. I said Seiko not GS. Those stupid overrated Casios somehow became an icon. SMH. 2. GS are absolutely competing with Rolex. Regardless of style they are competing for dollars and GS has positioned themselves smack dab in that Rolex bracket. Plus, no matter how stupid you may think it is I guarantee more people wear a Rolex with Tuxedos than a Grand Seiko. Prestige equals style and right now Rolex is more desirable than Patek. Don’t believe me? Which is easier to get and which one can be had at MSRP? The whole dress vs sport watch argument has no legs here. Rolex is THE dress watch of today. In fact, it is the EVERYTHING watch of today. It doesn’t need complications to garner its King of the Hill status. The crown is quite an appropriate logo wouldn’t you say? Watch some videos of major watch collectors showcasing their collection and notice how the excitement for Rolex is on par or above that of their Patek examples. Rolex is a drug and competing with them is a guaranteed fail. On paper GS should wipe the floor with Rolex at that price point but it is quite the opposite. 3. Yes, Seiko are most certainly a cheaper alternative for the exact reasons you just mentioned; Identity, design language, and proprietary movements. Name a watchmaker doing all that for the same money or less. The next cheapest true in-house maker with great identity and design language I can think of is NOMOS and they start at $1400. Off topic but the Metro Date with Power Reserve for less than $4k is IMHO the best deal in watchmaking. Back on topic, Google affordable in-house movements and see what comes up. None are remotely close to Seiko which is why everyone seems to start and stop with them. Stealing movements from your parent company doesn’t count but even if it did those are still way more expensive than Seiko. You can buy an entire collection of Seikos for the cost of just 1 off the shelf ETA movement. I only addressed your first paragraph but feel I’ve made my point. Seiko are positioned exactly where they should be and it’s at the bottom of reputable watches.
I have the SPB143 and while I think it should be closer to be $850, it has a beauty and charm that defies objective price analysis. I notice that Seiko fans are very enthusiastic about the SPB143, which along with the 3rd-Gen Monster is the most enthusiasm I've seen for Seiko models in the last decade.
I bought my SPB149 just about two years ago, and if we want to be objective about it, I think the pricing is just a bit dear for a Seiko. But as Teddy said, for a Seiko fan such as myself, it's basically catnip. I've worn it day in and out (over about a dozen other watches) for the vast majority of the last two years. It wears amazingly on my 6.25" wrist, and is an utter strap monster. It's on a Scurfa rubber strap right now as I'm doing the dishes. 😂 That said, my sample did come out of spec - it was losing 16-17 seconds per day. Seiko took care of it on warranty, of course, but just be aware that Seikos do have a wide variance on timekeeping precision. All this by way of saying - it's been worth every penny to me, and if I lost my 149 for whatever reason, I'd replace it with a 143 in a heartbeat.
I have the Spb147, the chocolate/gold dial is amazing, the rubber band fits really well but I also got a jubilee bracelete to match the vintage looking. Gorgeous combination!
Hi I just got spb239. May I know which type of jubilee bracelet u get and how is the color contrast between dialshield coated case with that bracelet. Tq
I prefer the golden dial SPB147 over 239 personally, it's very personal, also I already have chrome finish dials and hands and the 147 colour is a welcome touch.
Agreed….. the Chocolate dial and gilt indices looks better than a BB58 dial IMO. I own both the 143 and 147 and I have put the bracelet on the 147 and the silicone strap on the 143 and they both look perfect!!!!
Good review - I like how you steered through the value for money vs the intangible aspects like its heritage, its pared aesthetic, and sizing. For me this is the most wearable Seiko tool/dive watch and a great every day choice where a tuna or willard might be a bit much.
It’s also the “strap monster of strap monsters”. 😺It looks great with ANY strap. I usually wear mine on Sophie’s ribbed NATO straps from CNS, but it looks really great on any strap. Really a beautiful, versatile watch.Cheers.
Just got my SPB253. I loved it in photos and couldnt say no when I saw it in the shop. Fantastic design, and my favorite color combination (black and orange).
Recently picked up an SPB145, and I absolutely love it. It feels amazing on wrist, and I love looking down at it and seeing the light dance around all the polished and brushed pieces. Great video!
Great video, I think this is the Seiko watch collectors will settle down with. While they may not look incredibly different from other divers, the quality does shine through the moment you put it on, it feels well thought through. What I don’t get is why has the SPB147 been so often overlooked over the 239? The SPB147 is gorgeous!
I have the 147 and after 2years it still has me saying wow. I bought a strapcode jubilee and it’s a keeper watch. The main complaint you will see is about the movement but I don’t wear this every day of the week so I reset it constantly regardless so I really couldn’t tell you what the movement loses nor do I care. My other main watch is a speed master and I’ll be honest I think the qualities are comparable and the movement of the speedy isn’t 4K better than the seiko so it all comes down to semantics…buy what you like and enjoy!
100👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 agreed mate! I own the 143, 147 and 213 (paired with the blue silicone Willard strap) and love them all!!!! When you look down at the wrist it’s pure eye candy 😍😍😍
I own two diver watches: one inexpensive & one not. Had I known about this reference I would have not bought the two I currently own (Seiko Sport 5 & Oris Aquis). I think Seiko got it right with the case size. The dial is absolutely the best version of dive watch. I love the hands & indices. Is it worth $1,200? Yes, but I only know that now after owning other brand/models. What Seiko should do, it lume the bezel. I believe it would add a wonderful design element to an already handsome watch. That simple touch would make it easier for me to justify dropping $1,200 on it. As a matter of fact, if Seiko did that to all of their dive watches, it would give them a step up over their non-lumed competitors. Another great video.
The SPB143J1 was my grail watch, as I can not justify to spend money on Rolex, Grand Seiko, Omega or other luxury brands. I got it brand new for under 800€ and I have to admit, it is probably my most worn watch ever since and became my favorite in my collection. The design, size, finishing and wearability really apply to me and it scratches my Rolex Submariner itch being a really good "affordable" alternative with its own design and history. I really love this watch.
I've owned the SPB143 for a year or so and love it. Looks great on my smaller wrist, the grey/charcoal dial & understated vintage look is what I was after. There's no way I'd jump in a lake, or off a boat at anchor wearing a Submariner, with the Seiko, while pricey, I don't find I think twice when summer rolls around. I'll be honest, I haven't been diving in years, so the wet suit extension doesn't matter that much, nor even does the nicely engineered feel of the bezel. For a slightly smaller, understated, reassuringly retro look dive Watch that wears super comfortably this is hard to beat.
Got myself the "limited" spb213j1 and I love the case size, so fr the 6r35 has been absolutely great with +1.1spd, which was my only concern. I could not be happier with it an even consider getting the 143
I'm not a Seiko fanboy by any means, but my 143 is one of my favorite pieces in my collection. It's very versatile and goes with pretty much everything. It also looks great on most any strap I put it on. I'd recommend it to anyone shopping in the $1K price tier.
I owned a SPB239 for a while and it just didn’t feel like a nicer seiko. The dial was nice but it lacked finishing, the bezel didn’t line up (of course) and it ran +11 sec per day. If the MSRP was around $600 I would have kept it but for a $1000.00 watch they need to do better.
Same here. I currently own it and while it’s a stunning watch (and very enjoyable to wear) it runs around +15s everyday. And my bezel is misaligned as well. I also wish they’ve done a bracelet version
Now i have seiko spb147 really lovely to iam wearing..lovely the deep brown and gilt index..very enjoying..i dont care about the over price or anything..i think its worth it..love it..just it
Wife gave me a Seiko SPB147 as my birthday presente. It’s my first Seiko. I was expecting to get another Swiss dive watch. Went to my dealer, but they did not have the size of the model that I had in mind. So I started to look at Seiko section, and fell in love with the SPB147.
I purchased both of these models and while both have compelling dials, the 239 has a little more contrast and oomph, if you will. Had to return the 143 due to dust on the dial but would still consider one in the future, as well at the 149. The Seichu natos are a lot of fun to wear, though I also have the bracelet incoming. Both bezels were perfectly aligned.
@@13Tyres, yes, and I still enjoy wearing it. Check out the SPB455 Anniversary version before purchasing, as it's a nice new version, though with a little extra gold.
I own the SPB143. It's a great-looking dive watch that I bought mostly for its style and case dimensions. I think for the price it's outrageous that it doesn't have a signed crown. That's definitely a pet peeve. The proportions are perfect and it wears very well on the wrist - particularly if you have a smaller wrist like me (6.75). I don't regret buying it, but truthfully my other watches get more wrist time, like my 36 mm Explorer. I find myself drawn to smaller watches these days, and even though the SPB143 is very wearable and a modest size, it still feels heavy and bulky after wearing the Explorer.
Got my 143 when they were first released. Was excited to receive it: Killer finishing / size / design aesthetic. Killer lume. Killer bezel / smooth as silk. Garbage erratic movement on a good day runs minus 20 seconds.
I owned an SKX and a Turtle. The automatic diver genre wore out for me eventually. I am gravitating towards the quartz side now. new luxury and vintage.
Your Vostok review got me into mechanical watches a year ago...One Vostok purchase later, Im now $7000 to $8000 deep into watches already. Im a Seikoholic
@@kingadjust354 three vintage Seikos: Poque, UFO, and Bullhead. Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300, Seiko Monster, Gshock Mudmaster, plus some more Vostoks and lesser Gshocks
@@ModernTacticalShooting seiko is an amazing brand the sarbs and prospex divers are my favorites and for my watch collection- orient sun and moon version 3, casio world time, seiko solar quartz, movado pvd coated, invicta pro diver gold black dial and bezel 😎👍
Last Christmas I bought myself a couple of Seikos from an AD in the UK. I got a 50% discount on the white Seiko titanium and a 33% discount on the blue dial O53J1. I saved around £800 GBP. It seems to me that while some prices are creeping (or leaping)up in price, Seiko has authorised some considerable discounts on some models. To get the white titanium diver for less than some of the special King Samurai models is a bargain. I get the impression that these discount prices might be because customers are finding prices too high in the Seiko £800-£1200 price range...so check out what's available from ADs( no alignment problems when you buy in store) on sale. There are some really good deals out there.
Former WIS here, haven´t cared for watches in several years. Went into a Seiko AD yesterday to drop some of my wife´s watches in for a battery change and started to look around while waiting. Both the 143 and 239 caught my eye but got to say the 239 specially is a real stunner, and I`m not in the least a Seiko lover. Now I can´t get it out of my head!
Price is always subjective - but Seiko's at even $1200 having disaligned bezels and inner chapter rings is just why I don't order expensive Seiko's online. Always through AD in the shop to check for those things or in person if used.
The look is what makes this watch. Big shout out to your camera man. The still shots of both watches are on point! The pictures could defiantly be sold on their own.
Good morning or day Mr Baldessarre I’m an an avid watch looker and buyer so I only wanted to ask you with your permission. I recently bought a land shark albino. It was off the used market so I had it checked by my horologist and he said yes it’s real. I paid 110. GBP and it is such a looker, can I contact seiko and buy a box an I.d card for when my son inherits it. Provenance adds value, and since I bought my last Seiko that has tripped in value. My dads over the moon as I gifted it to him. Thankyou for you time, advice and contact. Tony. From the U.K
I actually own an spb143 and at first, I really loved having it on the wrist because of the wearability and “vanilla” silhouette (this being a double edged sword lol). But I will say that there’s nothing that makes me feel like this watch was worth >1000. I find myself barely grabbing it now. IMO
That's the damn thing with 1000 dollars Seiko. I got myself a female 36mm Tissot COSC 80 hour power reserve for 180 dollars on Jomashop, cant get better SWISS bargain than that.
I just bought the spb153 this week. I debated on getting the spb143. After wearing it all this week it has consistently gained 3 seconds per day. Compared to my Hamilton it’s just as good from a time keeping prospective. They aren’t for everyone, but I think they’re a good value for money
I have the Ltd ed. SPB149J1 and even with the premium for the Ltd ed. I absolutly love this watch. I joke that this is my budget Sub. It's def not on par with my Tudor BB58 however, for a more rough and tumble wear I reach for the Seiko. Size and specs and that all important power reserve for a weekend watch its still hard to beat.
Teddy, is this watch better than moving up to say the SLA017 or the SLA043, which are significantly more money than this watch? Is the 8L35 movement and some more refined finishing worth the big jump in price over this watch? I would say no but would like to hear your opinion. I just bought the limited edition SPB149 and can’t wait to get it but had shopped these other watches before deciding on that one.
I love this watch so much. I dropped mine and started losing time so i had it regulated by seiko and now im getting perfect timing. I also bought the sje093 but find the spb perfect for me.
The 68 remaster (MM200) is a much more well rounded looking watch. Especially when it comes to size. Really comes down to whether you like a smaller case as both are not big. Especially lug to lug.
I bought one of these based on this video, I have not been disappointed at all, it is a fantastic watch, some aspects make a few watches that are 10x cost look wanting !! and the design just bowls me over . Thank you.
I am a Seiko fanboy and love the 62MAS re-editions. However, I do think they are a bit too expensive when compared to the divers competition, particularly my current favourite, Squale. Nonetheless, they are beautiful and would not mind having either in my collection. Thanks for another great video, Teddy.
Recently I bought my "affordable" grail diver watch, Seiko SPB053. One of the most beautiful watches ever made. Slightly bigger and very similar to these two watches. I actually prefer heritage diver watches more than modern pro divers like Seiko Marinemaster. The last time I had a mechanical watch was back in 1985 and it was Seiko 5. I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate this watch is. I was losing about two seconds in two or three days. I can only imagine how good movements are in Grand Seiko, Omega, and other high-end watches. Unfortunately, my watch already stopped working after only six weeks since I bought it so the seller had to return it to Seiko for service. He told me that most likely Seiko will just install a new movement. I just hope it is going to be accurate as the original was. So please don't complain about Swiss watches, the Japanese became sloppy as well.
Love my spb143. I got the Japan market version SBDC101 first release (without the lume at 3 o'clock) and it looks much better IMO. The date window has a bevel too.
get yourself a sbdc171. it is gonna be a monochrome strap monster with a beautiful symmetrical dial. i have a 147 and i now have the 171 on order. same lug width so it is fun with straps time!
Yes they are imo. I used to have a SPB147, and it didn’t feel like a 1k€+ watch, it came with the usual Seiko quirks (misaligned hands and bezel insert), the 6R movements aren’t anything special either, low beat rate, average precision, unsigned crown… all this is ok a on a cheap watch, but unacceptable to me with the price they’re asking for those. Ended up selling it for a Longines Hydroconquest, without any regrets.
@@chewbster They’re different. Seiko bezel action is smooth, on Swiss watches (or at least those I have tried) they’re usually more snappy and sturdy. I wouldn’t call it atrocious, it’s as secured as Seiko’s bezel and gives a sense of sharpness, I think they just use different bezel spring technologies.
With 100's of watches to choose, Seiko is displaying only one on the construction hoardings pre-opening of their new Sydney AUS boutique - SBP143. This shows the mass appeal of this masterful design. After 18 months of daily use, mine is worth the price!
I really like it but I feel that it’s a bit overpriced for the specs. For the price you can get a Christopher ward or other micro brands with better specs and QC
Excellent proportions and looks for the case and dial as well as the hands and indices and a superb design element: lumed partial index beside the date window. Outstanding job Seiko. 👍😁👍
I did a trade-in deal for a Citizen dive watch. I got a Citizen Eco drive from a pawn shop for $30 and traded it in for a Citizen NY0159-57E. I ended up paying $300, and I couldn’t be more pleased! It’s basically Citizen’s answer to the SKX. I’d recommend this be considered as a possible contender against the Seikos mentioned in this video.
I love this watch. Especially with that chocolate dial. A small detail that I think is a shame is the fact that the date indication is not framed by a gold accent like the rest of the time indication. But hey, it's just an idea for the sequel, I hope.
i have received mine yesterday. the spb143 is for me the best watch in all directions. very usable in rather all situations. even for an evening in the opera. the watch feels outstanding good on my wrist and the dial in combination with the geometry is outstanding. probably seiko has choosen a price a bit too high. the answer is: the same watch from an brand like omega or so would cost a bunch more
The Seiko Spb 239 reminds me of the Tudor Black Bay 58. Could you do a comparison on one vs the other. I realize the Tudor is a higher price but would the spb 239 be a good substitute? Just curious on your expert opinion. By the way great video.
I have not exactly this but the very similar Boutique Exclusive SPB145 fell in love with it since first trying it on. More than worth it as I get giddy every time I see it 🥰
I have the Seiko SBDC055 and find my self wearing it much more than any other watches I have to include Seamaster,Sumbmariner,and Oris Aquis the lume is amazing and last all night.
I just received the SPB143 for my 30th birthday 3 days ago. It's been a grail watch that I've been chasing for the past 2 years and I have to say, it is incredible. I don't think anybody will be truly disappointed with it. Is it worth the £1100/$1200 price tag? I believe the answer is subjective but the important thing is how you feel when you wear the watch and I would highly recommend this watch to anybody.
Very true. It's all about how it makes you feel. Enjoy !
Whoa. I got one for my 30th birthday last year too. That's funny. But yes, I share your sentiment. This watch might be a bit expensive when you look at objective value, but it's got that X-factor that a lot of other watches don't.
I don’t get the fuss over the price. They seem to me as nice as any other $1200 watch. Enjoy your beautiful watch, and happy birthday!
Lol. I almost bought one for my 30th too! For me, I decided to spend a little more to get a Sinn EZM 3 which I am happy with. But I still have the want for this Seiko. The design is so clean and so damn good looking. I was looking for the best I could get for the money. It all came down to the movement for me. I couldn’t justify the price tag for a movement that potentially be around ± 30 sec a day.
Well said. These are an absolute joy to wear. I wish the movement was regulated with 4hz and they should have included the bracelet and silicone strap together. This would have made the asking price more fair IMO. The dimensions and case design is perfect! The dials also look amazing.
I picked up the spb147 for my 40th at full retail. I had internet window shopped for ages before this and had my heart set on an alpinist but wasn’t too keen when I saw it in the AD. Love my 147 and no regrets.
Before pulling the trigger on the SPB143, I compared it against the Mido Oceanstar and Doxa Sub200. The Mido wore big for me while I don't fancy the beads of rice bracelet on the Doxa. Settled for the 143 and never regretted since.
I did the same thing, I really liked the doxa and I was really ready to have my very first “swiss made” watch but after a lot of research I finally decided on spb143. It really is the perfect watch.
Enjoy your pick
1 year on and the new BB54 will be the next step.
I think Seiko product management is did well with the SPB143 for two reasons: a) They have a winning design and they know it. b) They have built a fan base with their lower-tier offerings that is inherently interested in the design, far more than other manufacturers that would directly compete at that level.
While people fuss over specs, I think it eventually it always boils down to design and wearability. Teddy was right pointing out the secondary market pricing. It's hard to argue the price if the watch is actually selling at that price point.
Someone who appticiates design this watch is a beauty
I got my SPB143 for just $645 USD from a guy who has "too many watches" he said and willing to let this one go. I was so lucky and delighted to upgrade from my skx013. OH SWEET JESUS I'm in LOVE with it, rocking it daily. My point is, if you think it is not worth the price tag, or simiply could not afford one like I do, just be patient, there are affortable deals out there. I have seen similar deals but didn't act quick enough.
Dude you stole that watch. I got mine for $850 and I was very happy to pay that.
@@AIRFORCEFREAK1 $850 still isn’t a bad deal at all
I didnt know these Seikos existed, and had saved up for an Oris Aquis, got on Chrono24 to buy the Aquis and the SPB147 popped up in my suggested, and I bought it on the spot. Just immediately fell in love with it, first time i saw it, which hasn’t happened very often. I later got the Aquis, and its a better watch, but i find myself wearing the 147 more often than not, its just to dang good lookin’, can’t get away from it.
Totally agree with the points Teddy. I'm an owner of a SPB143 and honestly it's been a watch you don't want to take off the wrist. The design language sets it apart from the competition and could easily see this becoming a future classic. Mine seems to perform much better than spec and it's a strap monster
I have the SPB143 since October and I’m still in love with this watch. It could be a one collection watch only easily.
I went on the spb213, which is the limited edition “arctic” white-blue version of this series. It is a bit of pity that it was not mentioned in this video. It is truly beautiful shiny masterpiece. I agree that for this price there are good other options to consider, but due to my small wrist size I took this one because this wears really perfect on any wrist size. 🎉
Nice review. The throwback to the old 60s design is what sets it apart - I agree with you mentioning the vintage Submariner as a similar vibe. Assuming we will get standard (excellent) Seiko reliability from the movement I personally think it's worth paying the extra for the design. It looks really tool like / cool - and that's what you want from a dive watch.
I think this is a general throwback people are loving right now to the sixties. I think Japan in the sixties was interesting to look at. The 64 olyimpics. A welcoming back to international recognition. My shouldn’t we consider this time period as a way to cut through the crap and and get back to basics.
I absolutely love this watch. Everything about is perfect to me and it’s become my daily watch.
I bought myself a 143 when I graduated university... It's the perfect 1 watch collection and I love it to bits...
Its a strap monster too. They grey dial takes on the personality of any strap making it incredibly versatile.
I'd buy another in a heartbeat. Definitely a killer watch
I bought the 239 and got the metal band for it. When I wear it, I can't take my eyes off of it. It's stunning.
I’ve been wearing my 149 most days for the last 21 months. Accurate to +5 to +10 spd. Closer to +5 spd if I wear it daily for several weeks. Bracelet is fine - I don’t like the divers extension. The Dia Shield coating is legit. To me, it’s worth the price. I keep thinking I want a BB58, but this is so good I can’t justify the expenditure. Great video Teddy!
Make sure you like the design of BB58 before jumping on it. I personally think that it is boring when checking out at AD. While I really like my SPB213, and my gone but not forgotten 147.
I pulled the trigger on the 143 last month. I can attest to the movement being around around +4 to +6 seconds a day for me after a month's worth of daily wear. I absolutely love this watch! absolutely brilliant move by seiko and worth the price
Congrats brother 👏
No they are not too expensive. Simple answer. The SPB143 is the best release of Seiko of the past few years and is a great bang for buck vintage diver that fits very well in a lot of categories.
It’s a 600 -800 dollar watch at best
@@zman8340 😂😂😂 ok!
Yes they are pretty expensive… is high time we start accept the reality and stop being fanatic fans of such corporate strategies….
You are delusional. This is a 6/800 watch. At this price could be a best buy as the old SKX at 200$ was a great buy back in the days. This is better and a great watch overall but too expensive. I can buy Certina DS diver for 800$ and comes with powermatic 80.
Yea. Expensive af. I'm a dirt poor third worlder and I'm happy with a $200-400 dive watch
I got the SPB143 last summer, and asked for a discount from a jeweller's and they offered 20% off which I was happy with. The watch itself is a beauty on the wrist, with a few strap options it works for all occasions. I usually wear it on a vintage style rubber but also pair it with a distressed leather strap for more dressier events. Never looks out of place.
I’d feel really strange asking for a discount on something expensive (I’m new to the watch world). Could you explain how you asked?
@@matthewdouglas2373 Just ask what's the minimum price they could sell it for, all prices advertised are "RRP" but most jeweller's will have an allowance to sell it cheaper, just have to ask.
@@jason_s82 thank you, I’ll try that
I own the 143, it is my absolute favorite watch! I am a seiko fan boy, but when I opened the package, I was blown away! I did watch this video as well before I bought it, thank you Teddy!
I think it’s a a super classic design. I think the 38-41mm size is the sweet spot for most people and this fits right in. I think the Hamilton Khaki Navy is something you’d cross shop with this but I’m not a fan of the micro hashmarks on the bezel from 0-15 - which the Navy does have. I love this line and am looking to get the spb 213 140th anniversary shortly.
@raypolakowski7172 did you ever end up adding the spb213 to your collection?! I find that silver/white dial with the blue bezel to be the most attractive but I can’t seem to find many available. Certainly not at a Seiko AD
Found a great case from tokeilab and original dials and built myself a SPB143 and a SPB213 both for around $500,- each using NH35s. As you said it's the look that makes this design standout.
I may only have about 40hrs of power reserve but apart from that the pieces look and feel great, work well and they even have signed crowns. Love my two 60s divers!
I have the 239, it took me a long time to pull the trigger, but it has met or exceeded my expectations. The bezel action is very nice, the proportions are spot on and I really like the two straps it comes with. Indeed the challenge I find is to not wear it all the time. It succeeds at looking old and brand new at the same time.
It stands out, by not standing out!
It's almost a cliché that average people don't notice our watches, but this one? I get compliments on frequently. I get a chuckle out of people complaining about gaining 3 seconds a day! 🤣 Seriously? If you're concerned about a mechanical watch gaining 3 seconds a day you've got serious issues that aren't watch related. IMHO Seiko hit a home run here, as evidenced by the fact the mine is still selling for pretty much what I paid for it!
You should write copy🤣
Give it a year... the 6r15s went to crap after a year or so and the watchmakers I have talked to that have worked on both the 6r15 and 6r35 say they are just garbage movements. My skx is 10x more accurate than my sbp 6r15 after a year. It is a $40-60 movement in a $1200 watch. My 6139 is much better han both. Sadly I feel seiko has lost their way.
Well said mate 👍👍👍 I own the 143, 147 and 213 and love them all. It’s got the X-factor.
This series is just about perfect for a dive watch, and I have multiple Seiko and GS dive watches, as well as a few others. Price is a bit high, but the satisfaction to finally be wearing what I've been searching for my entire adult life is worth it. Well, done, Seiko!
The price of a shitty Rolex is a bit high.
I absolutely love my sbp143, I got it as an engagement gift from my fiance, i love it's history and design and it can handle anything. Only issues is its top heaviness and most of all it does not keep time great, I have to set it once a week. Still worth it though.
That's odd...my 143 keeps great time! Maybe you should have yours service check?
@@EdwardAMG maybe! I assumed it's just the watch because I've seen reviews say the same thing
Teddy, do you think a black bay 58 is worth the 3000 dollars jump when compared to the spb143, spb147 or even the spb451?
It is a little expensive when you consider the same movement is in other cheaper watches. But you really are paying for the design. I’ve got the brown dial spb147 and it’s stunning. There are very subtle refinements in the brushing and polished coin edge bezel. the size is perfect. They have really nailed the reinterpretation of the original 62mas. E.g The original had big rectangular hour markers. The markers on this appear rectangular but there is a really subtle taper on the 1/2 4/5 etc. which just gives them more breathing space and a more modern feel rather than bulky rectangles getting too close at the corners. A very considered and beautiful looking watch.
I have an SPB239, and I like it. I think it looks classy and distinctive, and feel you get a fair value for what it costs. The lume on mine also glows bright blue.
As a huge watch enthusiast and owner of the spb143 i can only say this: It is not worth 1200 dollars on paper but it will probably make you smile like nothing else in this price point. The design is sharp, subtle, simple, in other words great. Quoting Teddy: "This blows everything out of the water"
At $1200 I think the only way this makes you smile like nothing else is you’re already part of the Seiko cult. The history of Seiko is one of value and that moniker digs deep in the category this watch is priced in. For $1200 you can get into a Doxa Sub that is an icon in the dive watch category. It’s history is a focused and precise dedication instantly recognized by those who dive in water not spread sheets. Now for those people that watch will make them smile like no other at $1200 and it doesn’t have that “value” stigma attached to it. What’s more is non-divers want a piece of that Doxa prestige pie and $1200 is a fair price to eat at that table.
I’m not a fan of Seiko because I’m old enough to know where they come from. They were the more expensive drug store watches you’d see displayed in a rotating plastic case with Timex, Citizen, Casio, and Pulsar. When I say drug stores I mean that literally. Seikos were well made mass market watches at a slightly higher premium than the other every man watches you could buy for $30. They never really became more than that to many of us. It also doesn’t help they caused the Quartz crisis either.
Regardless of my lack of respect for the brand I do believe their design language is solid, if a little too busy most of the time. At $500 I’m not really interested but at $1200 I’m offended. I don’t care what it says on paper when every time I look down I see Seiko on the dial. That is the uphill battle they brought on themselves.
Grand Seiko definitely raises the tide for its little brother but they are fighting the same battle at a higher price point. Both brands offer good value at their normal price points but once they stretch beyond that value range they see push back. A GS at $10k is good value but at $20k it’s a joke. Once they start competing with JLC, Breguet, and the like there will be a much different story unfold than their current battle with Rolex. They aren’t winning the Rolex battle but there is much sympathy for the brand. They are doing what they’ve always done, offer a solid value proposition that lacks full on status and prestige carried by their higher priced counterparts. That is their 100 year old game and it not only brought them success but cemented their place as a cheaper alternative to watches we really want.
@@thenutcracker2921 your bias aside you have to acknowledge the history and heritage of the Seiko company. Yes they made cheap watches for the mass market but they were also one of the first to make an automatic chronograph watch, the first Japanese dive watch, the first automatic chronograph to go to space and let's not forget Credor. I think your bias has blinded you to the fact that this company has been making some of the greatest watches and has a history that rivals any of the major swiss brands. The company was founded in 1881, always been independent, make their own in house movements, have many world firsts in horology and never been bought out by swatch group. How many other watch brands can claim the same?
Seiko heritage and history is up there with some of the best in the world. But because they make affordable watches for the every man along with some very high end and special time pieces people tend to look down on them.
@@thenutcracker2921 The Seiko of your youth is not the Seiko of today. Second, GS are not competing with Rolex. They mostly specialise in elevated dress watches. That is not what Rolex do at all. They are not a cheaper alternative to anything. Their watches have their own identity, design language and proprietary movements.
Agree that GS at 20k is far too much, but most of their watches don't cost anywhere near that, and the main reason they can't charge that much and get away with it is because of the lack of brand recognition and interesting complications.
There is also no real reason to spend more than 8 to 10k on a GS because you can get almost all the same features in their 5 to 8k offerings.
@@lamentate07
1. Seiko of today are indeed not the Seiko of my youth because back then they were the kings of cheap watches. That honor now goes to Casio so in a way they are worse now than then. Regardless of quality the desire and respect given to those cheap ugly Casios far exceed that of Seiko. It is common for collectors to have multi-million dollar watch collections with a Casio included but no Seiko. I said Seiko not GS. Those stupid overrated Casios somehow became an icon. SMH.
2. GS are absolutely competing with Rolex. Regardless of style they are competing for dollars and GS has positioned themselves smack dab in that Rolex bracket. Plus, no matter how stupid you may think it is I guarantee more people wear a Rolex with Tuxedos than a Grand Seiko. Prestige equals style and right now Rolex is more desirable than Patek. Don’t believe me? Which is easier to get and which one can be had at MSRP? The whole dress vs sport watch argument has no legs here. Rolex is THE dress watch of today. In fact, it is the EVERYTHING watch of today. It doesn’t need complications to garner its King of the Hill status. The crown is quite an appropriate logo wouldn’t you say? Watch some videos of major watch collectors showcasing their collection and notice how the excitement for Rolex is on par or above that of their Patek examples. Rolex is a drug and competing with them is a guaranteed fail. On paper GS should wipe the floor with Rolex at that price point but it is quite the opposite.
3. Yes, Seiko are most certainly a cheaper alternative for the exact reasons you just mentioned; Identity, design language, and proprietary movements. Name a watchmaker doing all that for the same money or less. The next cheapest true in-house maker with great identity and design language I can think of is NOMOS and they start at $1400. Off topic but the Metro Date with Power Reserve for less than $4k is IMHO the best deal in watchmaking. Back on topic, Google affordable in-house movements and see what comes up. None are remotely close to Seiko which is why everyone seems to start and stop with them. Stealing movements from your parent company doesn’t count but even if it did those are still way more expensive than Seiko. You can buy an entire collection of Seikos for the cost of just 1 off the shelf ETA movement.
I only addressed your first paragraph but feel I’ve made my point. Seiko are positioned exactly where they should be and it’s at the bottom of reputable watches.
I have the SPB143 and while I think it should be closer to be $850, it has a beauty and charm that defies objective price analysis. I notice that Seiko fans are very enthusiastic about the SPB143, which along with the 3rd-Gen Monster is the most enthusiasm I've seen for Seiko models in the last decade.
It hints at the quality of the SLA037J1. For much much less cash
I bought my SPB149 just about two years ago, and if we want to be objective about it, I think the pricing is just a bit dear for a Seiko. But as Teddy said, for a Seiko fan such as myself, it's basically catnip. I've worn it day in and out (over about a dozen other watches) for the vast majority of the last two years. It wears amazingly on my 6.25" wrist, and is an utter strap monster. It's on a Scurfa rubber strap right now as I'm doing the dishes. 😂
That said, my sample did come out of spec - it was losing 16-17 seconds per day. Seiko took care of it on warranty, of course, but just be aware that Seikos do have a wide variance on timekeeping precision.
All this by way of saying - it's been worth every penny to me, and if I lost my 149 for whatever reason, I'd replace it with a 143 in a heartbeat.
I have the Spb147, the chocolate/gold dial is amazing, the rubber band fits really well but I also got a jubilee bracelete to match the vintage looking. Gorgeous combination!
I also bought it. The value of the watch itself is in line with its price. In terms of appearance, it is higher than its price.
Hi I just got spb239. May I know which type of jubilee bracelet u get and how is the color contrast between dialshield coated case with that bracelet. Tq
Got a 147 myself..is there any visible difference between the color of the case and the aftermarket bracelet?
Where did you get the bracelet from ?
I got a spb147 yesterday and would like to buy a metal bracelet.
@@pippo702 just a little bit but almost imperceptible.
I prefer the golden dial SPB147 over 239 personally, it's very personal, also I already have chrome finish dials and hands and the 147 colour is a welcome touch.
I have the 147 too, it's absolutely gorgeous!
Mee too. I compared both and choosed 147 over 239. Silver hands and indicies are dismatching golden theme of the watch.
Agreed….. the Chocolate dial and gilt indices looks better than a BB58 dial IMO. I own both the 143 and 147 and I have put the bracelet on the 147 and the silicone strap on the 143 and they both look perfect!!!!
I prefer the spb255. It’s just too hard to find right now. It’s literally perfect
It sure is a beauty. Thanks for sharing!
Good review - I like how you steered through the value for money vs the intangible aspects like its heritage, its pared aesthetic, and sizing. For me this is the most wearable Seiko tool/dive watch and a great every day choice where a tuna or willard might be a bit much.
The SPB143 is one of my absolute favorites in my collection. The proportions are excellent, and it has a beautifully purposeful look to it.
It’s also the “strap monster of strap monsters”. 😺It looks great with ANY strap. I usually wear mine on Sophie’s ribbed NATO straps from CNS, but it looks really great on any strap. Really a beautiful, versatile watch.Cheers.
Just got my SPB253. I loved it in photos and couldnt say no when I saw it in the shop. Fantastic design, and my favorite color combination (black and orange).
Recently picked up an SPB145, and I absolutely love it. It feels amazing on wrist, and I love looking down at it and seeing the light dance around all the polished and brushed pieces. Great video!
Great video, I think this is the Seiko watch collectors will settle down with. While they may not look incredibly different from other divers, the quality does shine through the moment you put it on, it feels well thought through. What I don’t get is why has the SPB147 been so often overlooked over the 239? The SPB147 is gorgeous!
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I have the 147 and after 2years it still has me saying wow. I bought a strapcode jubilee and it’s a keeper watch. The main complaint you will see is about the movement but I don’t wear this every day of the week so I reset it constantly regardless so I really couldn’t tell you what the movement loses nor do I care. My other main watch is a speed master and I’ll be honest I think the qualities are comparable and the movement of the speedy isn’t 4K better than the seiko so it all comes down to semantics…buy what you like and enjoy!
I own SPB147, SPB213, SPB207 and SPB257. yes it's worth the price. Love them all
100👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 agreed mate! I own the 143, 147 and 213 (paired with the blue silicone Willard strap) and love them all!!!! When you look down at the wrist it’s pure eye candy 😍😍😍
I own two diver watches: one inexpensive & one not. Had I known about this reference I would have not bought the two I currently own (Seiko Sport 5 & Oris Aquis). I think Seiko got it right with the case size. The dial is absolutely the best version of dive watch. I love the hands & indices.
Is it worth $1,200? Yes, but I only know that now after owning other brand/models. What Seiko should do, it lume the bezel. I believe it would add a wonderful design element to an already handsome watch. That simple touch would make it easier for me to justify dropping $1,200 on it. As a matter of fact, if Seiko did that to all of their dive watches, it would give them a step up over their non-lumed competitors.
Another great video.
I want that Oris '65 Glow so badly.
The SPB143J1 was my grail watch, as I can not justify to spend money on Rolex, Grand Seiko, Omega or other luxury brands. I got it brand new for under 800€ and I have to admit, it is probably my most worn watch ever since and became my favorite in my collection. The design, size, finishing and wearability really apply to me and it scratches my Rolex Submariner itch being a really good "affordable" alternative with its own design and history. I really love this watch.
I have the SPB149 and I love it, it’s always competing for wrist time with my BB58 OG.
Fell in love with 143 at first sight. It was the last watch i bought so far. Never added to my collection for a year now.
I've owned the SPB143 for a year or so and love it. Looks great on my smaller wrist, the grey/charcoal dial & understated vintage look is what I was after. There's no way I'd jump in a lake, or off a boat at anchor wearing a Submariner, with the Seiko, while pricey, I don't find I think twice when summer rolls around. I'll be honest, I haven't been diving in years, so the wet suit extension doesn't matter that much, nor even does the nicely engineered feel of the bezel. For a slightly smaller, understated, reassuringly retro look dive Watch that wears super comfortably this is hard to beat.
Got myself the "limited" spb213j1 and I love the case size, so fr the 6r35 has been absolutely great with +1.1spd, which was my only concern. I could not be happier with it an even consider getting the 143
I'm not a Seiko fanboy by any means, but my 143 is one of my favorite pieces in my collection. It's very versatile and goes with pretty much everything. It also looks great on most any strap I put it on. I'd recommend it to anyone shopping in the $1K price tier.
I owned a SPB239 for a while and it just didn’t feel like a nicer seiko. The dial was nice but it lacked finishing, the bezel didn’t line up (of course) and it ran +11 sec per day. If the MSRP was around $600 I would have kept it but for a $1000.00 watch they need to do better.
Same here. I currently own it and while it’s a stunning watch (and very enjoyable to wear) it runs around +15s everyday. And my bezel is misaligned as well. I also wish they’ve done a bracelet version
Now i have seiko spb147 really lovely to iam wearing..lovely the deep brown and gilt index..very enjoying..i dont care about the over price or anything..i think its worth it..love it..just it
Mantap, BB 58 killer tuh gan
@@Mandaunusantara hehe iya gan..dapetlah apa yg dibayar gan..dr semua segi
Wife gave me a Seiko SPB147 as my birthday presente.
It’s my first Seiko. I was expecting to get another Swiss dive watch. Went to my dealer, but they did not have the size of the model that I had in mind. So I started to look at Seiko section, and fell in love with the SPB147.
I purchased both of these models and while both have compelling dials, the 239 has a little more contrast and oomph, if you will. Had to return the 143 due to dust on the dial but would still consider one in the future, as well at the 149. The Seichu natos are a lot of fun to wear, though I also have the bracelet incoming. Both bezels were perfectly aligned.
Do you still have the 239? Is it a keeper because I’m thinking about pulling the trigger.
@@13Tyres, yes, and I still enjoy wearing it. Check out the SPB455 Anniversary version before purchasing, as it's a nice new version, though with a little extra gold.
@@davidlocky8227 Will do. Thanks.
I own the SPB143. It's a great-looking dive watch that I bought mostly for its style and case dimensions. I think for the price it's outrageous that it doesn't have a signed crown. That's definitely a pet peeve. The proportions are perfect and it wears very well on the wrist - particularly if you have a smaller wrist like me (6.75). I don't regret buying it, but truthfully my other watches get more wrist time, like my 36 mm Explorer. I find myself drawn to smaller watches these days, and even though the SPB143 is very wearable and a modest size, it still feels heavy and bulky after wearing the Explorer.
I do not agree. In my opinion the unsigned crown looks classier than the prospex "X" which the MM300 carries.
They are perfect I've got the 149 and it's my favourite watch wears amazing
Love my SPB143. Remarkable watch, really, perfect in any environment.
Got my 143 when they were first released. Was excited to receive it:
Killer finishing / size / design aesthetic.
Killer lume.
Killer bezel / smooth as silk.
Garbage erratic movement on a good day runs minus 20 seconds.
Exactly
I owned an SKX and a Turtle. The automatic diver genre wore out for me eventually. I am gravitating towards the quartz side now. new luxury and vintage.
Your Vostok review got me into mechanical watches a year ago...One Vostok purchase later, Im now $7000 to $8000 deep into watches already. Im a Seikoholic
What watches do you have in your collection 😎👍
@@kingadjust354 three vintage Seikos: Poque, UFO, and Bullhead. Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300, Seiko Monster, Gshock Mudmaster, plus some more Vostoks and lesser Gshocks
@@ModernTacticalShooting awesome collection the tag heuer and seiko bullhead are the ones that I would have in my collection 😎👍
@@kingadjust354 Im becoming a #Seikoholic
@@ModernTacticalShooting seiko is an amazing brand the sarbs and prospex divers are my favorites and for my watch collection- orient sun and moon version 3, casio world time, seiko solar quartz, movado pvd coated, invicta pro diver gold black dial and bezel 😎👍
Last Christmas I bought myself a couple of Seikos from an AD in the UK. I got a 50% discount on the white Seiko titanium and a 33% discount on the blue dial O53J1. I saved around £800 GBP.
It seems to me that while some prices are creeping (or leaping)up in price, Seiko has authorised some considerable discounts on some models. To get the white titanium diver for less than some of the special King Samurai models is a bargain. I get the impression that these discount prices might be because customers are finding prices too high in the Seiko £800-£1200 price range...so check out what's available from ADs( no alignment problems when you buy in store) on sale. There are some really good deals out there.
Former WIS here, haven´t cared for watches in several years. Went into a Seiko AD yesterday to drop some of my wife´s watches in for a battery change and started to look around while waiting. Both the 143 and 239 caught my eye but got to say the 239 specially is a real stunner, and I`m not in the least a Seiko lover. Now I can´t get it out of my head!
Hope you were able to get a 239 for yourself. I’ve had mine for a little over a year and I’m loving it.
Price is always subjective - but Seiko's at even $1200 having disaligned bezels and inner chapter rings is just why I don't order expensive Seiko's online. Always through AD in the shop to check for those things or in person if used.
The look is what makes this watch. Big shout out to your camera man. The still shots of both watches are on point! The pictures could defiantly be sold on their own.
The 143 is one of my favorite Seiko watches.
Good morning or day Mr Baldessarre I’m an an avid watch looker and buyer so I only wanted to ask you with your permission. I recently bought a land shark albino. It was off the used market so I had it checked by my horologist and he said yes it’s real. I paid 110. GBP and it is such a looker, can I contact seiko and buy a box an I.d card for when my son inherits it. Provenance adds value, and since I bought my last Seiko that has tripped in value. My dads over the moon as I gifted it to him. Thankyou for you time, advice and contact. Tony. From the U.K
SPB143J is the GOAT. I got it from my 30th and I absolutely love it.
I have worn my SPB239 daily for +/- 2 years now and still as happy with it as the day bought it.
my favourite Seiko diver.
size is perfect and pricing is appropriate imo
I have the spb149, bought it for msrp when it launched. Totally worth it imo.
I actually own an spb143 and at first, I really loved having it on the wrist because of the wearability and “vanilla” silhouette (this being a double edged sword lol). But I will say that there’s nothing that makes me feel like this watch was worth >1000. I find myself barely grabbing it now. IMO
That's the damn thing with 1000 dollars Seiko. I got myself a female 36mm Tissot COSC 80 hour power reserve for 180 dollars on Jomashop, cant get better SWISS bargain than that.
@@bigboiganiga8356 What model/reference are you talking about?
Complete agree. For the money I think there’s a lot nice watches out there.
at best a $300-500 watch.
I'd rather get the Mido
I just bought the spb153 this week. I debated on getting the spb143. After wearing it all this week it has consistently gained 3 seconds per day. Compared to my Hamilton it’s just as good from a time keeping prospective. They aren’t for everyone, but I think they’re a good value for money
I have the Ltd ed. SPB149J1 and even with the premium for the Ltd ed. I absolutly love this watch. I joke that this is my budget Sub. It's def not on par with my Tudor BB58 however, for a more rough and tumble wear I reach for the Seiko. Size and specs and that all important power reserve for a weekend watch its still hard to beat.
Teddy, is this watch better than moving up to say the SLA017 or the SLA043, which are significantly more money than this watch? Is the 8L35 movement and some more refined finishing worth the big jump in price over this watch? I would say no but would like to hear your opinion. I just bought the limited edition SPB149 and can’t wait to get it but had shopped these other watches before deciding on that one.
I love my SPB143. It was worth every penny to me!
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I love this watch so much. I dropped mine and started losing time so i had it regulated by seiko and now im getting perfect timing. I also bought the sje093 but find the spb perfect for me.
The 68 remaster (MM200) is a much more well rounded looking watch. Especially when it comes to size. Really comes down to whether you like a smaller case as both are not big. Especially lug to lug.
I bought one of these based on this video, I have not been disappointed at all, it is a fantastic watch, some aspects make a few watches that are 10x cost look wanting !! and the design just bowls me over . Thank you.
Excellent review as usual.
I don't know so much about Seiko as I know about Swiss brands.
Thanks.
I am a Seiko fanboy and love the 62MAS re-editions. However, I do think they are a bit too expensive when compared to the divers competition, particularly my current favourite, Squale. Nonetheless, they are beautiful and would not mind having either in my collection. Thanks for another great video, Teddy.
I just got my SBP239 and its just amazing. Got mine in Japan with the yen rate I saved $400
Are there any Japanese retailers that ship internationally?
Recently I bought my "affordable" grail diver watch, Seiko SPB053. One of the most beautiful watches ever made. Slightly bigger and very similar to these two watches.
I actually prefer heritage diver watches more than modern pro divers like Seiko Marinemaster. The last time I had a mechanical watch was back in 1985 and it was Seiko 5.
I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate this watch is. I was losing about two seconds in two or three days. I can only imagine how good movements are in Grand Seiko, Omega, and other high-end watches. Unfortunately, my watch already stopped working after only six weeks since I bought it so the seller had to return it to Seiko for service. He told me that most likely Seiko will just install a new movement. I just hope it is going to be accurate as the original was. So please don't complain about Swiss watches, the Japanese became sloppy as well.
The spb149 is the best watch ever. Got myself a prx 80 green dial and still wear the 149 most of the time
Love mine
Love my spb143. I got the Japan market version SBDC101 first release (without the lume at 3 o'clock) and it looks much better IMO. The date window has a bevel too.
I have the SPB213 LE, it's an amazing watch.
get yourself a sbdc171. it is gonna be a monochrome strap monster with a beautiful symmetrical dial. i have a 147 and i now have the 171 on order. same lug width so it is fun with straps time!
Yes they are imo. I used to have a SPB147, and it didn’t feel like a 1k€+ watch, it came with the usual Seiko quirks (misaligned hands and bezel insert), the 6R movements aren’t anything special either, low beat rate, average precision, unsigned crown… all this is ok a on a cheap watch, but unacceptable to me with the price they’re asking for those.
Ended up selling it for a Longines Hydroconquest, without any regrets.
The bezel on the hydro seemed atrocious to me compared to my seiko
@@chewbster They’re different. Seiko bezel action is smooth, on Swiss watches (or at least those I have tried) they’re usually more snappy and sturdy. I wouldn’t call it atrocious, it’s as secured as Seiko’s bezel and gives a sense of sharpness, I think they just use different bezel spring technologies.
@@williamb8764 -The Hydroconquest is more expensive and has a modern design. Not really a fair comparison. Nice watch though
With 100's of watches to choose, Seiko is displaying only one on the construction hoardings pre-opening of their new Sydney AUS boutique - SBP143. This shows the mass appeal of this masterful design. After 18 months of daily use, mine is worth the price!
I have the SPB 147 (rubber strap) and it’s amazing!
Good video; thanks for pointing out the alternatives from Mido and Certina.
I really like it but I feel that it’s a bit overpriced for the specs. For the price you can get a Christopher ward or other micro brands with better specs and QC
I have to agree
I agree but without the BRAND.
You can also get a Longines or Oris with way better movements.
Tissot Seastar is even cheaper than this.
@@KMV007 most longines anf oris are around 2000.
Got my Seiko SPB239 pair it with NTTD nato strap, look really nice
Got the black Seiko 5 field watch with the orange lumen yesterday. Seiko is awesome.
Is the SPB147J1 the golden version or is it a completely different watch?
Excellent proportions and looks for the case and dial as well as the hands and indices and a superb design element: lumed partial index beside the date window. Outstanding job Seiko. 👍😁👍
This is pretty cool release! I have got my SPB143. For Seiko die-hard fan, this is a must to have piece.
I did a trade-in deal for a Citizen dive watch. I got a Citizen Eco drive from a pawn shop for $30 and traded it in for a Citizen NY0159-57E. I ended up paying $300, and I couldn’t be more pleased!
It’s basically Citizen’s answer to the SKX.
I’d recommend this be considered as a possible contender against the Seikos mentioned in this video.
I love this watch. Especially with that chocolate dial. A small detail that I think is a shame is the fact that the date indication is not framed by a gold accent like the rest of the time indication. But hey, it's just an idea for the sequel, I hope.
I would spend the $1200 on this watch. Considering I’ve spent thousands in Rolex and Omega this Seiko is a winner! Thanks Teddy!
i have received mine yesterday. the spb143 is for me the best watch in all directions. very usable in rather all situations. even for an evening in the opera. the watch feels outstanding good on my wrist and the dial in combination with the geometry is outstanding. probably seiko has choosen a price a bit too high. the answer is: the same watch from an brand like omega or so would cost a bunch more
The Seiko Spb 239 reminds me of the Tudor Black Bay 58. Could you do a comparison on one vs the other. I realize the Tudor is a higher price but would the spb 239 be a good substitute? Just curious on your expert opinion. By the way great video.
got a SPB147 for my first mechanical watch (choose between 143 and 147) its now part of my body never took it off since i wore it
I have not exactly this but the very similar Boutique Exclusive SPB145 fell in love with it since first trying it on. More than worth it as I get giddy every time I see it 🥰
I have the Seiko SBDC055 and find my self wearing it much more than any other watches I have to include Seamaster,Sumbmariner,and Oris Aquis the lume is amazing and last all night.